Monday 16 July 2012

Win a Gold Medal At The London Olympics 2012


The blog is closing for our customary summer break, as we are taking our holidays, catching up with business affairs and the care of family members, young and old.

The break is entirely our own decision and is nothing to do with the recent strange happenings out there in blogland. We have our own privately shared thoughts on this, but do not intend to add to the confusion with our own speculation. As we have already said, we are not “insiders” and have to sift through and try to evaluate the information/disinformation that comes our way. We like to work as a close team, to deconstruct, debate and disagree at times, which is time consuming and more problematic when it comes to holiday time.

Our policy is to decide our own blog content as a team and not become too distracted by the agenda that others may set, accepting that we may have been waylaid on occasions by those posing as friends. Our main agenda is getting to the truth, wherever that journey may take us, without being beholden to anyone involved in this case. The tentacles of this affair are widely spread and have a powerful grip. The strange happenings we refer to are a reflection of this reality. Although we won't be posting or publishing comments, we will be keeping each other updated with any developments during the break.

We hope you all enjoy this holiday period with your own families and friends; the most important things in life. Those of you who are keen on sport can settle down and watch the Olympics. Here's a gold medal that we'd like to be able to award.

Tuesday 10 July 2012

Just Embarassing




You may believe that we have inside information. I assure you we don’t. The only information we have and use, as we’ve said many times, is public and available to all. However the latest events may have indeed given you the impression that we’re one step ahead of the “Maddie Affair” agenda.

First, we took a break from the Mockumentary to focus on the strange relationship between Murat and Brunt on May 15th 2007. A day or two after we published that post, a gentleman by the name of Birch appears almost out of nowhere and brings widened attention to Murat, and Brunt is the only reporter from the “serious” Brit media" to give it any attention.

Yesterday in our Just Silly post we said that “Waters are being tested. By whom and with what objective remains unclear, but it’s now certain that muddy waters are indeed being stirred.” Also spoke of the war that’s raging between the UK Gov and NI. In the “Maddie Affair Battlefront” the "Brit Army" is using one its most credible Corps, the SY.

Today, NI clarifies what was unclear yesterday by publishing an article in The Sun whereby Kate McCann is now an “Ambassador for Missing People”.

Let me clarify that on our part it’s all just a coincidence. If we’re setting any sort of agenda it's our own, nobody elses'. How other people's agenda are run it’s certainly not of our doing, however it does please us to verify that we’re apparently reading the situation correctly.

About the tabloid article, if I was to hold a paintbrush, dip it in white paint and slosh it across your eyes so that you couldn’t see anything but white, it wouldn’t be as a whitewashing operation as this article is attempting to be.

Today's article in The Sun is, in our opinion, NI’s response to the “Birch Machine” attack. Now we know who attacked who and who felt the need to respond to who. All now nice and clear, at least before our eyes.

The problem with said article is that people who believe in the neglect theory won't be very happy. In fact, most likely will be outraged.

Lest we forget, the vast majority of people in UK are believers in neglect. Talking about the general public. They haven’t read what is written in blogs about Maddie and much less what we’ve written here. They’re not aware of the extent of the hoax, or even that there was one. But they do read the media and they aren’t stupid. No matter how fresh you try to sell a rotten fish, it will always stink.

If NI thinks this is going to retrieve Kate’s character in any way they’re being very badly advised. She is setting herself up to be taken down mercilessly in public.

There will be people who really have missing children who will feel being disrespected, and rightfully so,  and will be outraged by this so let’s hope one of them speaks out soon to start the dismantling of Kate McCann's facade.

This might be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for many. NI is making Kate step on dangerous ground doing this.

There are two phrases in the article which we would like to highlight:

“We are really pleased with the way the Scotland Yard review is progressing, It’s in good hands."

“But what we need is for the Portuguese police to reopen the case. That is crucial.” 


About the first, we still all remember you complimenting how well the PJ was doing its job, until you realized that they were really doing a good job and now we know what is your opinion about that same Police after that, something you won’t ever be able to express in the same manner about the SY because you’re on home ground now.

About the second, all you have to do is ask. Your lawyer in Portugal, Rogerio Alves, has apparently said that you’re considering asking. Don’t consider, do it.

Lastly, let us continue to show how silliness continues to be a tool that seems to be currently preferred for use from all parties in question. If the Birch Machine manoeuvre was silly in content but efficient in message, you can’t beat the silliness, both in content and message of naming Kate McCann “Ambassador for Missing People”.

The silliness in the “SIC Mediums”, the silliness in the “195 New Leads” and the silliness in the “Birch Machine” should all be, and apparently they were, taken very seriously by some. The silliness in the  “Ambassador Kate” is just embarrassing to all.

Monday 9 July 2012

Just Silly


Silly is silly. Best be ignored.

But sometimes one sees something silly and one feels that one has to act, for example, intervening when a child is doing something silly before she hurts herself.

There’s a difference between having to act and feeling impelled to do so. Sometimes people do silly things just to provoke a reaction.

And that’s what’s happening lately in the Maddie Affair with this Birch episode.

Let’s first just look at how silly this silliness is.

Remember how easy it was do debunk the “SIC Mediums” silliness with our posts Just SIC(K)... Or Maybe Not and Desperate Disinformation?

Well this one is slightly easier to debunk its silliness.

Notwithstanding that's it’s a rather farfetched idea for someone who isn’t known to have shown, at least up until now, any interest in the case, to decide to fly thousands of miles, hire a machine, trespass a backyard, where apparently there are 2 big dogs, 4 times in the middle of the night, and fly back to South Africa; there’s a physical reality that proves this individual is not exactly being precise in what he's saying: the Summer Solstice which happened on June 20th this year.

As we can see, the South African gentleman seems to have stated that he trespassed Murat's house between 05.00 and 06.00. The print screen below seems to confirm that fact:


It shows that the image was apparently captured at 05:09:06 on the 23rd of June.

We’re talking just 3 days after the day with the longest time of daylight of the year. At that time the daylight is not what is seen in videocap below:


So it’s silly, completely and absurdly silly.

But it’s the third absolutely silly episode in a very short amount of time. The first was the “SIC Medium”, the second the “SY 195 new leads” and now the “Birch Machine”, and that’s too much silliness about the same subject for it to be random.

Someone is trying to send a message and is not very much worried about the logic of which post card it’s using to send it. Anything will do.

Let’s start with what we can extract from these three episodes. Forget the silliness in them all and do concentrate on what they’re trying to tell you.

In the first episode, the “SIC Mediums”, the message was that Maddie is dead, that she died in the Apartment and the body was present in the area of the Boavista Golf Club. It implicates solely the parents and the remainder T7 and the possible involvement of John Geraghty is ambiguous leaving quite a good margin for it to be denied.

In the second episode, the “SY’s 195 new leads” the message is clear: the British Police officially state that there’s enough new evidence for the case to be reopened and the fact that it insults the competence of the Portuguese Authorities and that the whole thing wasn’t minimally coordinated are minor details.

In this third episode, the message again insists on Maddie being dead, involves the parents and involves directly the Murats, regardless of the silly disclaimer below as it’s silly to think that somebody places a body beneath a cement coverage without the knowledge of the owners of the property:


Waters are being tested. By whom and with what objective remains unclear, but it’s now certain that muddy waters are indeed being stirred. And with the same modus operandi that has been pattern in this entire affair: shamelessness. But maybe that’s the whole idea.

Now, let’s just concentrate on this last episode, to see if we can understand something out of all this. Remember that this isn’t either for you or us. We’re all simple spectators of a game that is going on, although to call it such is an absolute understatement because it’s ruthless and fierce and the price for victory or loss is indeed significant.

First thing noted was that only the Portuguese Media, mainly Correio da Manhã, picked up the issue. In Britain, as far as we’re aware, besides the sole “Brunt crime report” on Sky News, the issue has been practically ignored.

Second thing noted is the silence from SY which is deafening and still ongoing. Correio da Manha has reported that the British Police have met to analyse the issue, but to date, not a word about it from them. Is this among the 195 new leads, or is this the 196th?

Third thing noted was the tardiness of the McCanns intervention and obvious lack of enthusiasm in it. They appear to be very reluctant and uncomfortable about the subject and not because they’re afraid of the body being found... but they do seem to be afraid.

Fourth and last thing noted was the reaction from the BHs. For a while I had to ask myself who was in disagreement that the whole thing was silly as both WHs and BHs were, strangely enough, on the same side of the fence.

But while during the “SIC Medium” episode, where the BHs remained calm and poised, during this episode they became apoplectic. They attacked GA when GA was the first to show how silly the whole thing was and even went as far as complimenting the efficiency of the ERVD dogs!

We believe that some BHs are not fully in the loop and are totally confused as to what is going on. They won't all be in the inner circle because leaks and information will be kept to minimum numbers. They are just paid to keep confusion going but they are finding themselves in contradictory positions. It's funny that they have to criticise blogs which are saying the same as them, although there is nothing remotely funny about the inner circle and what they are doing.

The BHs have found themselves in a position of knowing not who exactly to attack but needing to attack someone. So they’ve exhorted Murat, both in comments made in WH and BH blogs and forums alike, to take legal action against Birch and have highlighted, as if it was needed, all the obvious details that make the whole thing to be indeed silly.

They've acted furiously frightened and that was so telling. The amount of effort going into this hoax is remarkable and ghastly in equal measure.

This particular testing of waters had the peculiarity that for the first time it implicates non-T9: Robert and Jennifer Murat and the mysterious MJS. The first 2 we know, the latter must be hiding in the fictitious “unpublished PJ Files”.

So from Episode 1 – The SIC Mediums to Episode 3 – The Birch Machine, we have an intentional upscaling of those being involved in the silliness and with that the silliness stops to be silly, doesn’t it?

From what we gather someone wants a closure for this case. We think that the terms of “surrender” are being discussed between UK Gov and NI in a war between sharks where the goldfish simply pray and have no say.

However, in this war, there’s another shark in the game, and it seems that it doesn’t want to play any more: the Portuguese Gov. It came out scarred from the last game and it seems not to be in the humour to get involved again.

The problem is that without the third shark there seems to be no game. It holds homefield advantage on the only playing field it’s possible to play the game. If it doesn’t open its doors to the other players there's no pitch to play on, thus this pressure, both from Episode 2 – 195 New Leads and Episode 3 – The Birch Machine, to force Portugal into play.

But can the game be played without a pitch? Yes, it can. If you can’t catch goldfish with a line and a hook, you can always shoot it out of the water.

It’s silly to use a cannon to get a goldfish in a pond but sometimes one really has to do really silly things to really show the goldfish that one really means it.

And we’ve seen really silly things, haven’t we?

Friday 6 July 2012

The Murat/Brunt Get-Together


We had two comments warning us that May I’s post, Playing Games, was based on mistranslation of what was said in the PJ Files.

The first comment was published. The second was not. It was either too enigmatic, if coming from a WH, or too stupid if from a BH. Either way we decided not to publish it because it names personalities apparently not related with the hoax, so we’ll keep it in our archives for future reference if that be the case some day.

But in good time we were advised. In fact the translation wasn’t exact. We’ve decided to reproduce here what we think to be the correct one and leave, as always, for you, the reader, to form your own opinion about the content of the calls:

PHONE CALL #1

Call made on 15-05-2007 12:57:41 to 13:04:19 (duration 00:06:38)

Transcribed on 27th May at Portimao PJ station.

JM - Jennifer Murat
MB - Martin Brunt
RM - Robert Murat


JM: Hello. Jennifer Murat’s residence.

MB: Hello, Martin Brunt speaking.

JM: Hi, dear.

MB: Hi, is everything alright with you?

JM: Yes, Robert is a little depressed now.

MB: Surely, surely...

JM: It isn’t very nice on Sky’s part to use the term arguido, don't you think?

MB: Humm… Well, I haven’t seen that yet. I was… I was up there, at our villa. What are they saying with regard to that?

JM: Robert Murat is constituted as an arguido in the Inquiry of Madeleine McCann.

MB: That is what is the term arguido... can you try and explain what does “arguido” mean in Portuguese?

JM: What does “arguido” mean, Robert?

RM: Suspect.

JM: Suspect.

MB: Right, well, I'm not completely up to par with the legal Portuguese term. I think that someone said... The police said they are treating Robert as an arguido.

JM: Robert, an arguido?

MB: I mean, that means... that means that...?

JM: I'm going to pass you to Robert. Don't hang up, Martin.

MB: Alright. Thank you!

RM: Oh, hi, Martin...

MB: Hi, Robert.

RM: Your number didn’t show up, mate, so, I didn't know who it was...

MB: My... No, I don’t send my number. Put it that way... (overlapping voices)

RM: Oh, alright...

MB: Yeah... I’ll see if I don’t forget to change that, if I can find the tool (laughs).

RM: (Inaudible).

MB: Right... We’re trying... I mean I haven’t seen that yet...But we’re trying to expla...The police said, or it was the local papers who said that you are being treated as an arguido.

RM: Which is as a suspect, basically...

MB: Yes, but even so, I... Given the tone of the interrogation..

RM: Humm...

MB: ...and the fact that you’re free which says a lot about the interest that they have in you… Eh...

RM: This is the really killing me... It wasn’t me...I didn’t do anything and I’m being literally...

MB: Well... I know, and I think...

RM: It’s always on when I turn the TV on and it’s really...

MB: Yes... Well, it would be better if you turned it off..

RM: Really... Maybe it would the best that I should do.

MB: Yes.

RM: But when I turn on the TV, I think that... Eh... it’s killing me, completely. It’s killing me...

MB: Well... well... I’m going to tell you what...

RM: To have an idea...

MB: I’m going to tell you what we’re going to do.

RM: Did you talk to the lawyer?

MB: Two things! We talked to Sky's lawyer...

RM: Right.

MB: Who is of the opinion that the agreement that you signed reports to your work as a translator.

RM: Right and as to... the thing that was... under... Let me.. Eh... Probably is ... Oh!...

MB: Go on, go on...

RM: We talked... we talked about Sky’s lawyer, but the problem with Sky’s lawyer is that he is English!

MB: Yes... No, no, no! Sure... He’s our lawyer.

RM: Humm.

MB: And... you can see, he gave his opinion...

RM: Humm?...

MB: ...according to his understanding.

RM: According to his understanding, exactly...

MB: Now we are reluctant to talk to the lawyer who contacted you.

RM: Alright. Ok.

MB: We don’t know him.

RM: Right.

MB: And you don’t know him, do you?

RM: Exactly. No, I don’t know him, mate.

MB: And... And we don’t know where he comes from, what is the credibility he has.

RM: Yes.

MB: And they’ve told us that the police are playing games, with false leads and so on... And who knows if he is who he says he is?

RM: Alright. Ok.

MB: And he could be trying to probe you or waiting for us to pass him some information.

RM: Right.

MB: Eh...We know that you suspect that your calls are being listened to, so...

RM: Humm, humm...

MB: Right? Because of that, we are very reluctant because we don’t know him and you don’t know him.

RM: But, then...I mean, the best option you have to clear that up, is probably for you to go to a Lisbon lawyer. Eh... Someone... Someone from up there, really up there. Not from Algarve. Go meet someone from Lisbon. Alright?

MB: Alright. We’ll see if we can get someone from there, but..

RM: Yes!...

MB: But the position we’ve taken in relation to this, for the moment, as I had explained previously, is that we consider very important - and I think it was your initial opinion - to do something in order to get something from your side...

RM: Yes, and that it won’t get me arrested immediately! (inaudible)

MB: Of course, of course! And, you know, many of the things that you’ve told me weren’t attributed to me...I understand and I don’t want to get into all those details and we haven’t done anything since I left you.

RM: No, no, no, no...

MB: That I’m sure that you understand.

RM: Yes, yes! Yes.

MB: And if there is anything that may clarify it better, that you feel that you can say it, that can maybe be used in a future (inaudible).

RM: Right.

MB: You know, we can quote Sky sources and so on..

RM: Yes, which is great! Which is in fact great!

MB: But what I think is important is that you still have the media there and if we could appear, in a brief way, and make statements in these terms: “You know, I was questioned, it was a vague questioning, they didn’t ask me direct questions about Madeleine”, and after you explain to me how you feel that they’ve made you a scapegoat, that you have nothing to hide, that thankfully they are going to analyze your computer. And that in the end of all this, you will be absolved and they are going to catch the real abductor/kidnapper.

RM: We could... you could... We’re going to first to look at this with a Portuguese lawyer, aren’t we?

MB: Yes...No...

RM: Are you going to do that?

MB: I’ll strive to get one now and...

RM: Yes.

MB: But, but ...Independently of what the lawyer may think, I think that this is the most sensible option. But we’re going to try to find someone that can.....

RM: Yes, I think that is great. You can confirm that. I’m just here having a family discussion, seeing what they think...

MB: Oh, yes? Of course, sure. But I’m talking about making very clear statements.

RM: Yes, ok!...

MB: That they don’t get into too many details but in a way that you can get your message across.

RM: Get across... Ok.

MB: That will give your version of the events, as the only version of events are leaks and...

RM: Yes, yes.

MB: And is from local papers and it’s all very, very much against you... And there’s nobody, with the exception of the interview I gave to Sally...

RM: Yes?

MB: There is nobody speaking in favour of Robert Murat so...

RM: In fact, among the many interviews that they’ve given, I think there were positive ones... People talked with each other...

MB: Yes?

RM: They called and said.... No, no... It’s been very positive so...

MB: Of course...

RM: Well, the people from the area...

MB: People from here...

RM: From here... Exactly, exactly...

MB: (Inaudible)

RM : Exactly, exactly...

MB: That know what is going on...

RM: Many people from the area said very positive things about this which is... about me, which is useful.

MB: Right... Well. I’m going to see if I know of something and then I’ll call you again.

RM: Alright. Goodbye!...

MB: And if we agree on this...

RM: Yes?

MB: If we manage to appear for 15 minutes… (inaudible)...

RM: I have no problem at all in making a statement... Not that...

MB: Ok...

RM: I have no problem at all, as long as... As long as I have the legal coverage to do it. Because I don’t want to end up in prison....(sigh)

MB: That would be the last thing we want to do...

RM: Firstly, for something I didn’t do, and secondly, for something that, in fact, I did do that was to break their contractual (terms)...

MB: I understand that and I understand the sensitive nature of everything that we’ve been working with since we arrived here, so...

RM: Ok.

MB: Can I call you again in a half an hour from now?

RM: Goodbye!... Thank you very much.

MB: Goodbye. Goodbye.

RM: Goodbye.

MB: Goodbye.








PHONE CALL #2

Transcription of Telephone Interception Call date: 15.05.2007 15:58:17 to 16:01:44 (duration 00:03:27)

On 26th May 2007 in the Portimao PJ installations the telephone registers were listened to and interpreted into Portuguese:


MB: Hello? Robert?

Jen: Hello, it’s... it’s “Jenny”.

MB: It’s, it’s “Martin Brunt”, “Jenny”.

Jen: Yes.

MB: I thought it was better to send you my number when I call so that you know it’s me.

Jen: Yes.

MB: Ahm... look, I just... I just wanted to know if “Robert” got into contact with his lawyer friend.

Jen: Ahm... at the moment not yet, because he’s been talking on the phone with his sister.

MB: Right.

Jen: And he spoke ... and also spoke to the policeman from Leicester who is with my sister at this moment.

MB: Right, right... ahm... ...ok, there's just one thing I would like to tell him about ahm... his worries about talking (inaudible) the McCann family (inaudible).

Jen: I’m starting to not hear you, I’m starting to not hear you...

MB: I just wanted to explain one thing to him, and...

Jen: Ok.

MB: And that may help him... to arrive...

Jen: Rob it’s... it’s Mar, “Martin”, he has some news for you (speaks to a third party) Wait a little, I (inaudible).

MB: Alright.

Rob: Hi, mate.

MB: Hi, look, very briefly, this, this could be an important question.

Rob. Alright.

MB: Ahhm... the idea that nobody involved should talk .... the McCann family have talked regularly and they are key witnesses in this investigation.

Rob: That is not a good question, sorry, it’s a good question, but they are not about to detain them, are they?

MB: They can’t...

Rob: They are not about to detain them, especially with the public pressure, are they?

MB: Well, no, no, no..but, but....I just, I just thought, a lawyer drew my attention to (inaudible) nobody...

Rob: No, that’s good, that’s very, very good, in fact I haven’t yet (inaudible) statements because I was on the phone, ok?

MB: Sure, sure.

Rob: But the truth is that I have found some very good information, I expect them to be very good, unfortunately out of sight, I really made a phone call from here at eight fifteen in the evening.

MB: Right.

Rob: And I made another call at eleven fifty three at night so... from, from the home telephone and it’s a number that only I would call to, it’s not a number that my mother would call.

MB: Right.

Rob: Ahmm... so that, that starts to look positive, but now I'm trying to find out from my, from “Dawn”, I've just spoken to “Dawn”, ahhm... to see if she could, ahhmm... ask for the telephone records in the United Kingdom.

MB: Right

Rob: And see if she called my any time that night.

MB: Right.

Rob: So I’m not, I’m not sure how well, how well this is going to result, but if she can do this for me that is great, I mean, (inaudible) if, if they could prove that I was here from eight fifteen...

MB: Yes.

Rob: And that I didn’t move, in the sense that my cellphones didn’t move..

MB: Yes.

Rob: You know, that is, it’s quite good (inaudible)..

MB: Yes, you know, I think, I think that is quite important and... I think that it’s... yes, I think it can be very useful to you.

Rob: Yes, yes.

MB: Yes, I mean, you should need to... to prove where you were, I mean (inaudible) you should not have to prove anything.

Rob: Well, that, that, that is true, but the way things are, with all the nonsense that is going on...

MB: Yes.

Rob: I..I... I’m doing something to try, you know, to show that I... was where I was, after all.

MB: Yes.

Rob: No, I understand that, yes, but whatever, I’m going... I’m just going to finish this and then I’m going to do what I had planned to do... ahm and then I’ll call you again.

MB: OK, alright.

Rob: OK? Thanks.

MB: Alright.

Rob. Thank you very much, take care, goodbye.

MB: Goodbye.







An interesting detail.

The translators had the opportunity to hear the intonation and inflection of the actual calls. This has revealed to be important in their translation.

The Portuguese have two different ways by which two people speak to each other. They either treat each other by “voce”, demonstrating distance and respect between the parties, or by “tu”, much more familiar and used between friends and close acquaintances. The English have only the "you".

The fact that both translators use the “ tu” form between Murat and Brunt is only because they deduced such intimacy between them from what they heard.

I would like to remind all that these conversations took place on the 15th. Around about, or less than 24 hours after Murat was constituted as an arguido.

It’s quite fascinating the familiarity that we can witness between a TV Reporter and a suspect of a crime. The world’s most sought after suspect of a crime at the time.





Post Scriptum:

We don’t wish to help spread falsity but in this case the messenger is much more important than the message::

Police Probe Madeleine 'Grave' Theory

By Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent


British detectives are examining an extraordinary claim that Madeleine McCann's body is buried near the holiday apartment from where she vanished.


A self-styled investigator has sent police ground radar scans he claims show a burial site.


Stephen Birch says he took the scans last week in Praia da Luz, the Portuguese holiday resort where Madeleine disappeared five years ago.


He passed them to Scotland Yard detectives who are carrying out an investigative review of the case.


They have asked him for more information to help them interpret the scan results and the "raw data" the machine collected.


He has also sent the material to Portuguese police who abandoned their search for Madeleine 15 months after she disappeared.


Mr Birch, a commercial property developer in South Africa, admits he is "obsessed" with the Madeleine mystery.


He claims to have spent £40,000 on buying the ground-penetrating scanner and being trained in its use.


He said: "All I want to do is solve the mystery and bring closure to Madeleine's family. I am convinced she lies where I have scanned.


"I've had the scans analysed and they show digging, a void and what could be human bones."


Scotland Yard said it would always consider any new potential evidence and pass it on to the Portuguese authorities.


Earlier this year the detective in charge of the review said he believed there was a chance Madeleine was still alive.


She was nearly four when she disappeared without trace from the apartment in May 2007.


Despite dozens of potential sightings around the world no credible evidence has emerged to indicate whether she is alive or dead.


Her parents Kate and Gerry McCann believe she is still alive and would not comment on Mr Birch's claims.”


Why is Brunt reporting it when no UK press seem to be?

Mates falling out with each other?

We all know how the jungle works... once the lion is weak, all the hyenas and vultures come out to fight for the spoils while the “banquet-to-be” looks powerlessly at what the very near and unfortunate future is about to become…


Monday 2 July 2012

Playing Games


In 2007, by May 15th there had already been some “sightings” of Madeleine; Jane Tanner's abductor man carrying a child and CCTV pictures of a blonde girl with a woman at a petrol station shop. The latter is dismissed by Kate in her book. The girl wasn't Madeleine.
Then we have the sightings of Pimpleman, subject of the Mockumentary, and Vanman/Guitarman seen by Gerry McCann and implied by Derek Flack to have been near Apartment 5A in both their statements to the PJ.

The PJ intercepted phone calls on May 15th, between the Murat family and Martin Brunt, the reporter with Sky News. By this time, Robert Murat had been referred to as an arguido by Sky News. Jennifer Murat answers the phone by saying “Hi dear” in response to Martin Brunt, suggesting some previous contact between them. Brunt then speaks to Robert Murat and they discuss contact with an unnamed English Sky lawyer. They say they do not know him, where he came from or what his credibility is, but it is difficult to tell, without hearing the intonation and inflection of the actual call, whether they were stating facts or suggesting this is what they thought they should say. It seems they are setting up the context of an interview they are planning?
Brunt then says:
And they told us that the police were going to play games with false leads and that was why. And who knows whether he is who he says he is.”
Who they and the police refers to is unclear.
Can we assume it is not the Portuguese police, who seemed to be concentrating their efforts on the T9 and Robert Murat and do not appear to be convinced by Jane Tanner's sighting? The characters in the Mockumentary were also accounted for very quickly.

Only Martin Brunt and Robert Murat can explain the meaning of this exchange, as Robert Murat's response to this astonishing statement by Martin Brunt is:
That's right. OK.




Post Scriptum: The post above was written based on the following translations of the PJ Files:

Report of Telephone Interceptions 

Call made on 15-05-2007
Transcribed on 27th May at Portimao PJ station. 

JM - Jennifer Murat 
MB - Martin Brunt
RM - Robert Murat

JM: Hello. Residence of JM. 
MB: Hello, Martin Brunt speaking. 
JM: Hi dear. 
MB: Hi, is everything all-right? 
JM: Yes, Robert is a little depressed now.
MB: I’m sure he is..
JM: It was not very nice of Sky News to refer to him as arguido, don't you think?
MB: Hmmm, I didn’t see that. I was up at our house. What are they saying with regard to that?
JM: Robert Murat has been made an arguido in the case of Madeleine McCann.
MB: What does the term arguido mean in Portuguese?
JM: What does arguido mean, Robert?
RM: Suspect.
JM: Suspect.
MB: Ok , well, I'm not completely familiar with legal Portuguese terms. I think that someone said.....that the police said they were treating Robert as an arguido.
JM: Robert, as an arguido?
MB: What I mean is, what is that...
JM: I'm going to pass you to Robert. Don't hang up Martin.
MB: Ok thanks.
RM: Hello Martin.
MB: Hello Robert.
RM: Your number didn’t show up, that’s why I didn't know who it was...
MB: Oh my, I didn't send you my number...
RM: That’s OK.
MB: Well, I will see if I manage not to lose this one, if I can find the tool (laughs).
RM: (Inaudible).
MB: Ok we will try, I mean I have not seen it yet...But we will try to expl...The police say or was it the local journalists who say you should be treated as an arguido.
RM: That he is a suspect, basically..
MB: Yes, well, even so...given the tone of the interrogation..
RM: Hmmm.
MB: And the fact of being free which says a lot about the interest in you, eh..
RM: That is the same as finishing me off...It was not me...I didn’t do anything..and now I am literally...
MB: Ok, I know, I think...
RM: It always on when I turn the TV on and even now...
MB: Yes...well it would be better to turn it off..
RM: Really. To have been quiet was the best thing I could have done.
MB: Yes.
RM: But when I turn the television on I think , eh...They are going to finish me off completely, they are finishing me off...
MB: Ok, ok I'm going to tell you that...
RM: In order to have an idea..
MB: I’ll tell you what we are going to do.
RM: Did you talk to the lawyer?
MB: Two things! We talked to the Sky Lawyer...
RM: Right.
MB: Who is of the opinion that according to what you signed you reported your work as being that of a translator.
RM: Certainly, as far as... the thing is that is was...Let me ..eh...it probably is ...oh!...
MB: Go on, continue...
RM: We talked, we talked to a Sky lawyer, but the problem with the Sky lawyer is that he is English!
MB: Yes...No, no, no... he is or lawyer.
RM: Hmmm.
MB: And can you see, he said what it seemed to be to him...
RM: Hmmm?
MB: according to his understanding.
RM: According to his understanding, exactly...
MB: And now we are reluctant to talk to the lawyer who contacted you.
RM: That right. OK.
MB: We do not know him.
RM: OK.
MB: And you do not know him, well you don’t?
RM: Exactly, that’s right. I do not know him, mate.
MB: And we do not know where he came from or what his credibility is.
RM: Yes.
MB: And they told us that the police were going to play games with false leads and that was why. And who knows whether he is who he says he is?
RM: That’s right. OK.
MB: And he could be trying to test you out or hoping that we pass him some information.
RM: Certainly.
MB: Eh...we know that you suspect that your calls are being listened to, because of this...
RM: Humm, hmmm.
MB: Right? Because of this reason we are very reluctant because we do not know him and you do not know him.
RM: But however...I mean the best option you have to come clean with this, would probably be to go with a lawyer from Lisbon. Eh... somebody...with someone from up there. Not from the Algarve. It would have to be someone from Lisbon. Is that OK?
MB: That’s ok, I will try to arrange for someone from there...but..
RM: OK!
MB: But our position in relation to all this, for the moment, as I explained previously, is that we consider ourselves to be very important ? and I think it was your opinion initially? to do something finally that would manage to be on your side...
RM: Yes and that would not lead to my being detained immediately!
MB: Of course, of course! And you know, many of the things that you told me were not attributed to me...I understand and I don’t want to enter into all those details and we did not do anything since I left you...
RM: No, no, no, no...
MB: I am sure that you understand.
RM: Yes, yes! Yes.
MB: And if there is anything that better clarifies, that you think you could say, that could also be used in the future.
RM: Of course.
MB: You know, you could quote Sky sources and others..
RM: Yes that would be perfect. That would be just perfect!
MB: But I think it is important that you should have the media there and if we could appear, briefly, and make statements in these terms: “I was questioned, it was a vague questioning, I was not asked direct questions about Madeleine” and afterwards you explain to me how you felt that they made you a scapegoat, that you have nothing to hide, even if your computer is analysed. And that at the end of the day you will be absolved and they will find the true abductor/kidnapper.
RM: We could.. you could.. Lets first look at this with a Portuguese lawyer, we will won't we?
MB: Yes...No...
RM: Are you going to do this?
MB: I will do my best to arrange for one now...
RM: Yes.
MB: But, but ...independently of what the lawyer thinks, I think that this is the clearest option. But we will have to try to find someone who.....
RM: Yes, I think this is the simplest. Can you confirm this. I am here having a family discussion to see what they think...
MB: Ah yes. Of course I will. But I am talking about making very clear statements.
RM: Yes, ok!
MB: That they do not enter into many details but into the way you can get your message across.
RM: Get it across..OK:
MB: That you give your version of the events, given that the only version of events is vague and...
RM: Yes, yes.
MB: And that the two local journalists and everyone are very against you...and that there is nobody with the exception of my interview with Sally...
RM: Yes?
MB: There has nobody who has spoken in favour of Robert Murat because of this...
RM: In fact of the many interviews given I have heard that there were some positive ones...people contradicting each other...
MB: Yes?
RM: They arrived and said....no, no...they have been very positive about this...
MB: Of course. people from the area...
RM: People from here..Exactly, exactly...
MB: Inaudible
RM : exactly
MB: Who know what happened...
RM: Many people from the area said very positive things about this...about me, which is useful.
MB: Of course, well I will see what I can find and get back in touch with you.
RM: OK, Bye.
MB: And if we agree on this..
RM: Yes..
MB: And if we could agree to appear for 15 minutes..
RM: I never have any problem with making a statement..
MB: OK
RM: I have no problem whilst...Whilst I have the legal cover to do so. Because I don’t want to end up in prison....(sigh)
MB: That would be the last thing we want...
RM: Firstly, for something I did not do and secondly for something that would break their contract rules...
MB: I understand that and I understand the sensitive nature of everything that we have been working with since we arrived here, so...
RM: Ok..
MB: Can I phone you again in half an hour?
RM: Good bye, thank you very much.
MB: Good bye.


Transcription of Telephone Interception Call date: 15.05.2007

On 26th May 2007 in the Portimao PJ installations the telephone registers were listened to and interpreted into Portuguese.


MB: Is Robert there?
JM: This is me..Jenny:
MB: This is Martin Brunt, Jenny.
JM: Yes.
MB: I thought it was better to send you my number when I call so that you know its me.
JM: Yes.
MB: Um...look...I just...I just wanted to know whether Robert has contacted his lawyer friend.
JM. At the moment, not yet because he is talking on the phone to his sister.
MB: OK.
JM: He spoke ..he also spoke to Leicester police who are with his sister at the moment.
MB: Right, right, ah...Ok...There's just one thing I would like to tell him about ...his worries about talking (inaudible) to the McCann family (inaudible).
JM: I am letting him listen, I am letting him listen.
MB: I would just like to explain one thing to him and...
JM: Ok.
MB: And could help him...to arrive.
JM: Robert, its Mar ..Martin he has some news for you (speaks to a third person) Wait a minute, I (inaudible).
MB: That’s OK.
RM: Hello mate.
MB: Hi, just very quickly, this could be an important question.
RM. OK.
MB: Ahhm...The idea that nobody involved should talk .... the McCann family have talked regularly and they are key witnesses in this investigation.
RM: That is not a good question, sorry, its a good question but they are not ready to detain them are they?
MB: They can’t...
RM: They are not prepared to detain them especially with the public pressure, so no..
MB: Well, no, no, no..but, but....I only think, a lawyer drew my attention to (inaudible) nobody...
RM: No, that’s good, that’s very good, in fact there are still no (inaudible) in the statements because I was on the phone, OK?
MB: That’s right.
RM: But the truth is I have found some very good information, I hope it will be very good, unhappily out of sight, I really did make a phone call from (to?) her at eight fifteen at night.
MB: OK.
RM: And I made another call at eleven fifty three at night so, from the home telephone and to a number that only I would ring, it’s not a number my mother would dial.
MB: OK
RM: Hmm, however, this could begin to be positive, but now I'm trying to find out whether my Dawn, I've just spoken to Dawn, ahhm...to see if she could, ahhmm...ask for the telephone records in the UK.
MB: OK
RM: And see if she calls me later tonight.
MB: Right.
RM: However I am not certain of how well this will turn out but if she could do this for me that would be great, I mean (inaudible) if, if they could prove that I was here from eight fifteen...
MB: Yes.
RM: And that I did not leave, in the sense that my calls did not leave..
MB: Yes.
RM: You know...this is quite good (inaudible)..
MB: Yes, you know, I think this is quite important and...I think... I think this could be quite useful.
RM: Yes, yes.
MB: Yes and I mean..you should make clear...to prove where you were...I mean (inaudible) you should not have to prove anything.
RM: Well, that..that, that is true, but the way things are going, with all the strange things that are happening...
MB: Yes.
RM: I..I...I am going to do something to try, you know, to show that I ...was where i was, end of story.
MB: Yes.
RM: No, I do not see this, yes,,but if it were ..I am just going to stop this and afterwards I am going to do what I planned to do...em and then I will contact you.
MB: OK, fine.
RM: OK? Thanks.
MB: Thats OK.
RM. Many thanks, be well. Bye
MB: Bye