tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68915749651724588482024-03-18T02:58:18.037+00:00TextusaThe right to exercise the duty of being a citizenTextusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comBlogger764125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-35862327052946979042022-09-20T09:05:00.009+01:002022-10-18T11:39:28.630+01:00NO VIOLATION BY PORTUGAL<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtpod-_hzp6X8-shsOjMNFyXaexvBYVax51mUJCbDjs3oiwMifmYC0UvWRtkKKLNiwAsBQWJrTyZ7k5-1qfX7l79oE4l3nwggvmr259hUeg_vp_08tJQ2kV-LChfbPOV3Ce24PViPoGf8Acwf_CQBIIURNQDI3QGzIrLuDwYv0buBHiuWfT3RSCCFj/s1024/IMG-20220920-WA0002.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1024" data-original-width="473" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtpod-_hzp6X8-shsOjMNFyXaexvBYVax51mUJCbDjs3oiwMifmYC0UvWRtkKKLNiwAsBQWJrTyZ7k5-1qfX7l79oE4l3nwggvmr259hUeg_vp_08tJQ2kV-LChfbPOV3Ce24PViPoGf8Acwf_CQBIIURNQDI3QGzIrLuDwYv0buBHiuWfT3RSCCFj/w185-h400/IMG-20220920-WA0002.jpg" width="185" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Just a quick note:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">The McCanns can request referral to Grand Chamber and they have 3 months to do it, but in our opinion, it’s unlikely to be granted.</div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh2DiNTiyUY-vE5Le6dGTL124aukGoz9B2swsEVV9qn1WaeWWDAPHHrYg4SqnOXK9ZGbeRSfu07NP85ZfQpfOxOrAiHq-V7TRtcOoxMyfr3OxPvcio68a-wnFpo-V84AAO-1cBffWWAYgtxyhKwDZhUuE7votIM_99gavp3LRju9jPH1h5jn9QQ4mgk/s1024/IMG-20220920-WA0004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="473" data-original-width="1024" height="185" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh2DiNTiyUY-vE5Le6dGTL124aukGoz9B2swsEVV9qn1WaeWWDAPHHrYg4SqnOXK9ZGbeRSfu07NP85ZfQpfOxOrAiHq-V7TRtcOoxMyfr3OxPvcio68a-wnFpo-V84AAO-1cBffWWAYgtxyhKwDZhUuE7votIM_99gavp3LRju9jPH1h5jn9QQ4mgk/w400-h185/IMG-20220920-WA0004.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><p></p><p><br /></p><p>Update on Oct 18, 2022</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbNKA5TMad5oHgMkryi9Cpg0K43Y8pOFkhFXpEoxu1ipTlneRNCqzZpgZxdHsoUinDWrIhiTgeYmh1mc13LX5EywONGerq-wGvjpkoepqk5UqKyaaumaEninOCuRI58-dL6ByHhjyYaQ6Q9ww6JuglUIR5DSmwn0xCRh5-8URJmbBGwW3D20MeOOCv/s472/state.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="266" data-original-width="472" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbNKA5TMad5oHgMkryi9Cpg0K43Y8pOFkhFXpEoxu1ipTlneRNCqzZpgZxdHsoUinDWrIhiTgeYmh1mc13LX5EywONGerq-wGvjpkoepqk5UqKyaaumaEninOCuRI58-dL6ByHhjyYaQ6Q9ww6JuglUIR5DSmwn0xCRh5-8URJmbBGwW3D20MeOOCv/w400-h225/state.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><p style="text-align: justify;">It seems the McCanns filed an "appeal" to prolong the process.</p><p style="text-align: justify;">Although it's our opinion that that it will not be admitted, in case it is this could delay matters for another 3 years, if we are interpreting this correctly:</p><p style="text-align: justify;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/FAQ_GC_ENG.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1666173648799000&usg=AOvVaw0-o8xgfMswg78Q-9_NID5w" href="https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/FAQ_GC_ENG.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.echr.coe.int/<wbr></wbr>Documents/FAQ_GC_ENG.pdf</a> </p><p style="text-align: justify;">A decision on admissibility comes first, then a possible wait of 3 years if application is admitted.</p><p style="text-align: justify;">That would allow for OG to continue so that FOIs can be denied on the basis they could interfere with an ongoing investigation.</p><p></p>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com19tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-21863024145279764072022-09-15T14:36:00.009+01:002022-09-15T15:10:19.826+01:00McCann ECHR Decision - September 20, 2022<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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<![endif]--><br /><br /><br /><br />Note how the Daily Mail gives these news. <br /><br />By reading the link, one is lead to believe the McCanns won: <br /><br /><a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11215227/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-finally-Tuesday-won-14-YEAR-libel-battle.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11215227/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-finally-Tuesday-won-14-YEAR-libel-battle.html</a> <br /><br />Or basically: “Madeleine McCann parents finally Tuesday won 14 YEAR libel battle” <br /><br />One, on reading this, would be certain that the McCanns won, Portugal (not Amaral) has lost and that it was all about libel!</p><p style="text-align: left;">It doesn’t say which Tuesday and it doesn’t say “if they have won”. It just says, WON, past tense. On a Tuesday, misleading readers into thinking it was last Tuesday. <br /><br />But opening up the article, this is what Nick Pisa has to say: <br /><br /><span style="color: #2b00fe;"><i>EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann’s parents will finally find out on Tuesday if they have won 14-YEAR libel battle against cop who suggested they were to blame for the girl’s disappearance <br /><br />- A 2008 book suggested the McCanns were responsible for the disappearance <br /><br />- The Portuguese officer was taken off the investigation after a 27-year career <br /><br />- The McCanns fought back against the initial ruling on an appeal in Portugal <br /><br />By <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Nick+Pisa+for+MailOnline">NICK PISA FOR MAILONLINE</a> <br /><br />PUBLISHED: 12:05 BST, 15 September 2022 | UPDATED: 12:25 BST, 15 September 2022 </i></span><br /><br /> <br /><br /><b>“Will finally find out on Tuesday if they have won” </b><br /><br /> <br /><br />British Journalism at its best. And isn’t the Daily Mail the British paper with the largest readership? </p><p style="text-align: left;"> </p><p style="text-align: left;">About Nick Pisa, an image speaks for a million words:</p><p style="text-align: left;"><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUuTIYQ_NmpekJWmcOefr6mk_VfuVqB7NDjNGmy6_13kp6w5Zzm4APCPzMepadAVTnOr3pvAbxJ4GSyvQCJ9YJ8n8BdJwZBlzEE6qKbVJnSazIgVKfhpMqUn8U9zxIJLXRp87dgsiqHUy1wblTn__OrOdm1UdSsAvuhOR_9A6AYMuMi4sdDx4I-j1K/s1366/Pisa.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="662" data-original-width="1366" height="194" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUuTIYQ_NmpekJWmcOefr6mk_VfuVqB7NDjNGmy6_13kp6w5Zzm4APCPzMepadAVTnOr3pvAbxJ4GSyvQCJ9YJ8n8BdJwZBlzEE6qKbVJnSazIgVKfhpMqUn8U9zxIJLXRp87dgsiqHUy1wblTn__OrOdm1UdSsAvuhOR_9A6AYMuMi4sdDx4I-j1K/w400-h194/Pisa.jpg" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><a href="https://jonworth.eu/nick-pisa-daily-mail-journalist-lazy-fkwit/">https://jonworth.eu/nick-pisa-daily-mail-journalist-lazy-fkwit/</a></span><br /></td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><br /></td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><br /></td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><br /> <br /></p>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-88567808117611538212022-06-24T22:19:00.000+01:002022-06-24T22:19:10.791+01:00Maria CR - Rest in Peace<div> <br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0uYDmrSgDGeKuR8KE1BgcgnmE8jLSwksMzrNwSYqKQmaPVELHLrZRjcZGjzClZZM9TzO2OtWbO9JdXEZucNtij2N0Z5bquwtngjPHeBNV6z54FiNfEEEmuneGBd8I3fS1PZy3DrIelO8nmdJ8zvBiZBkZxa9XV3uq_SNAkZYAYF-xVVM9avbTZJ5V/s1358/Maria.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="812" data-original-width="1358" height="239" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0uYDmrSgDGeKuR8KE1BgcgnmE8jLSwksMzrNwSYqKQmaPVELHLrZRjcZGjzClZZM9TzO2OtWbO9JdXEZucNtij2N0Z5bquwtngjPHeBNV6z54FiNfEEEmuneGBd8I3fS1PZy3DrIelO8nmdJ8zvBiZBkZxa9XV3uq_SNAkZYAYF-xVVM9avbTZJ5V/w400-h239/Maria.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;">Very bad and sad news, Maria CR has passed away. On the 19th. <br /><br />With her Portenglish she was a true warrior fighting Maddie’s and Amaral’s colours. <br /><br />About Maddie she never for a single minute accepted the injustice and the disrespect the girl was subject to. And she never accepted for a minute the lies, both the blatant one as well as the ones cloaked as truth. <br /><br />About Amaral, she accepted all his flaws and understood why he had many of “them”. She knew him to be human like the rest of us and also understood very quickly what he was really up against. <br /><br />The world has lost a good heart and I have lost a very special friend. Someone who will leave a huge hole in my heart. <br /><br />Maria and I were friends almost since the beginning of the blog. In fact, one of the many things that is creeping into my mind is not remembering our first encounter. Not that we met in person that often but during these many years we kept in contact so often and closely that very quickly it became a friendship that was much more about the case. <br /><br />Until today her silence meant that she was just a phone call away. Months would go by, and then one of us would decide to meet up and it was truly like we had met the previous day and were going to meet again the day after. We both knew how much we loved each other. <br /><br />Now that silence means she’s no longer there. I want to call her and I can’t. The silence has suddenly become palpable and too great to embrace. <br /><br />I really wish I could write the words she deserved.<br /></div>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-44078518997389164342021-11-13T12:34:00.003+00:002021-11-13T12:34:45.801+00:00 Chapter 27 – The Petty Criminal<p style="text-align: justify;"><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjLmQmrH1QjkPqX3dmwT3oQFSLulEpgixzWYr4qZf4lSC9lTMfSOQ5rEqm6G8u5tK-DtL2ahgXfAMvw_7uGYi03loUzi6WNLJm7rBG1I9zzdVFByYcMvLTJyv3ulK4g80OFIRpkHSq6-0j/s1132/502x.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="668" data-original-width="1132" height="236" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjLmQmrH1QjkPqX3dmwT3oQFSLulEpgixzWYr4qZf4lSC9lTMfSOQ5rEqm6G8u5tK-DtL2ahgXfAMvw_7uGYi03loUzi6WNLJm7rBG1I9zzdVFByYcMvLTJyv3ulK4g80OFIRpkHSq6-0j/w400-h236/502x.jpg" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><i>(article from <a href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12638463/witness-mccann-guilty-christian-b/">here</a>)</i></span><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><br /> </p><p style="text-align: justify;"><b>1. <u>Our synopsis</u></b><br /> <br /><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">Textusa</a><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">26 Oct 2021, 16:10:00</a><br /><br />Our synopsis of the book:<br /><br />Chapter 27 – The Petty Criminal<br /><br />There seems to be someone who seems to have a memory that doesn’t betray them and that person is a self-claimed petty criminal arrested in Greece in 2015 for human trafficking, for which he was sentenced to seven years and 3 months in prison.</p><p style="text-align: left;"><span></span></p><a name='more'></a>This individual while serving his sentence decided to contact Operation Grange.<br /><br />Helge B, a German citizen who lived in Germany until 1993, then moved to Nice and in 1994 to Corsega, where he seems to currently reside. There, he started to live with a French woman and they had a son. <br /><br />In 2001 or 2002 he left his family, leaving them their house and 2 cars and took with him 30,000€ to restart his life. <br /><br />Marseille, Paris, Barcelona and Valencia, where he met Manfred S, another German traveller.<br /><br />Once the money ran out, he started a life of crime of burglaries, robberies and other crimes.<br /><br />In 2003, he settled together with Manfred S, in a hippie community in the Spanish town of Órgiva [about 600km East of Praia da Luz, to have an idea, Seville, North of the Gibraltar, is roughly in between them].<br /><br />He used to come to the South of Portugal to steal fuel, solar panels and other items. When in Portugal he used an autocaravan parked in Fazenda Rebelde, in Santa Clara, near the dam with the same name in the Alentejo [about 85 km NNE of Praia da Luz], where there is a large German community. The owner of the Fazenda Rebelde is a German citizen known as Cheyenne.<br /><br />In 2005, in Órgiva, he met the German Michael T, quoting Amaral: “…an individual that, like with Manfred S, is described by the criminal as a junkie and alcoholic, besides being stupid. This Michael T was integrated in the practice of stealing solar panels, joining Helge B and Manfred S.”<br /><br />Helge B states that in the beginning of 2006, when Michael T was already living in the Algarve, he came to Portugal with Manfred S who had set up a meeting with Michael T although they were in a state of disagreement.<br /><br />This is how Amaral describes the encounter between Christian Brueckner and Helge B:<br /><br />“The meeting will have happened in a bar in Portimão. Michael T arrived with the person in whose house he lived at the time, a German who presented himself as Christian, known as Oberkellner [Google translate: Head Waiter], by the careful way of dressing, with buttoned-up shirts and always with a jacket. It was the now suspect Christian B.<br />For the criminal there was something strange about Christian B, not knowing the reason for having that bad impression. On the other hand, Christian B was suspicious of Helge B and did not allow that he, that night, accompany him to his house. He stayed in the bar waiting for Manfred S’s return with the stolen solar panels given by Michael T and Christian B.<br />Two or three days after this first encounter. Michael T and Christian B appeared in Órgiva to sell solar panels. Helge B was not happy with the situation, as it was him who held there the exclusive of that illegal commerce. The bad relations between him and Christian B must have further deteriorated, even because, at that moment, he took Michael T aside and told him of his displeasure. Christian will have been aware of these comments. To Helge B, it wasn’t enough the lack of trust shown by Christian B in the first encounter towards himself, he further had had the nerve to come to Órgiva to meddle in his business”.<br /><br />Sometime later, date unknown, Helge B and Manfred S when in Fazenda Rebelde got to know that Christian Brueckner and Michael T were in prison for fuel theft. They, Helge B and Manfred S decided to steal fuel from deposits they knew existed near Brueckner’s house.<br /><br />Amaral then describes this way the third encounter between CB and HG:<br /><br />“In March 2008, Helge B was still living and doing business in Órgiva when he saw and talked again with Christian B. At first, he was afraid that he knew who the authors of the burglary of his house were, even because a lot of people got to know it, but even though there was this fear, and that Christian had been suspicious of him from day one, the petty criminal with very fragile principles will make a relevant and compromising confession with a future impact. It is to be highlighted that Christian B’s stay at Órgiva at said date is confirmed by the fact that he had an accident with the autocaravan he used. The accident was reported to the insurance company (German), but it is not known when did the German police got to know of this event.”<br /><br />In 2010, a 40 yr old Helge B, holding a huge secret and penniless leaves Órgiva and heads for Italy.<br /><br />On April 22 2011, in Brindisi, in the Italian region of Apulia, while homeless he’s arrested for “participation in a fight, resisting and threatening the police and abusive possession of wounding objects”<br /><br />Days before, he had been arrested for the theft of 20€ and violent aggression on a young Polish homeless woman.<br /><br />Even though he had this direct contact with the police and judicial authorities, he doesn’t make use of the secret.<br /><br />Helge B is arrested in Igoumenitsa. Greece, for being caught red-handed trafficking 3 illegal immigrants. Initially he was arrested for 5 days and then again doesn’t use Christian Brueckner’s confession.<br /><br />In 2015 he’s sentenced to seven years and 3 months in prison in Crete for human trafficking even though he claims he was just giving them a ride.<br /><br />Strangely, he was released on parole in April 12 2017 when the sentence would end in 2021.<br /><br />Such an early release raises the suspicion that something strange may have happened, eventually having used the pseudo-secret he held all those years.<br /><br />In Amaral’s words:<br /><br />“What is known is that he was approached by elements of the British police from operation «Grange», after phone contact made by the prisoner’s initiative and that, months after his release on parole, he was being formally heard as a witness against Christian B.<br />The police authorities involved in the «discovery of the secret» say that this petty criminal, thief, women aggressor and traveller linked to the consumption of alcohol and drugs, former homeless, provided the information in a voluntary way without any money or other considerations, even though, at the time of providing the information, was serving a heavy prison sentence.<br />Manfred S, his companion in the criminal life of over 20 years, someone who knows well Helge B, defines this individual as a manipulator, a frightening opinator, dominant and aggressive, who makes other people evil in order to be well seen by those listening to him. Helge B presents himself as a «good boy», if «he puts in the effort, can express himself and sell very well». He’s a junkie, has consumed all one can imagine, from crack to heroin, cocaine, cannabis and mushrooms. After his stay in prison things got a bit better but, after four months, he consumed drugs again.”<br /><br />More to follow.<p></p><p style="text-align: left;"> <br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><b>2. <u>Our analysis</u></b><br /><br /> </p><p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030">Textusa</a><a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2021/06/goncalo-amaral-on-cdm-enough-with-lies.html?showComment=1635261590202#c4586187664546642812">26 Oct 2021, 16:19:00</a><br /><br />On this Chapter, we would like to highlight what Amaral is trying to convey: the time it took Helge B to tell authorities about the alleged confession.</p><p style="text-align: justify;">Please note - and Amaral will call out this detail later in the book - that the alleged confidence takes place in March 2008, when literally Maddie was hitting the headlines every single day and this was happening:<br /></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/20/madeleine-mccann-reward-fund-96101">https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/20/madeleine-mccann-reward-fund-96101</a> </p><p style="text-align: justify;">“A breakdown of the reward, and a full list of who, including celebrities, has donated to the Madeleine McCann reward fund is:<br />£10,000 from The Sun newspaper, €15,000 (£10,250) from the Portuguese newspaper Record, £100,000 (€147,000) from a colleague of Kate McCann, £1,000,000 (€1,470,000) from British businessman Stephen Winyard.<br />A further £1,500,000 (€2,200,000) was raised through a News of The World pledge, including £250,000 from the News of the World themselves, £250,000 from Sir Philip Green, £50,000 from Simon Cowell and £25,000 from Wayne and Coleen Rooney.<br />Other notable contributors include Sir Richard Branson, JK Rowling, and Bill Kenwright. Harry Potter author JK Rowling donated the highest amount to the News of The World fund, but her figure was undisclosed.”<br /><br />Also, we ask readers to retain the fact that until he goes there to steal fuel from deposits that allegedly existed near it, Helge B had never been before in Christian's B house and from what we can understand after reading the book, he never went there again.</p>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com55tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-61251119159296684542021-11-06T12:57:00.006+00:002021-11-06T12:59:52.721+00:00Chapter 26 – The Ocasional Discovery<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLvdepa0vyriKSlT1GBkqZuNRWJj4Ae9FUG52ns0B8Rsg28MT7pAdOvsRIMnjQY57RM3exJbwg8foPCjbPJTVHVo9rl3cwwtHCqw9DF5kU9P9necGxpAK-KTKm9DOPv-S3dhJYlXOKWqcN/w400-h214/502x.jpg" /></a><br /></div><div><br /><br /><b>1. <u>Our synopsis </u></b><br /><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">Textusa</a><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">25 Oct 2021, 15:56:00</a><br /><br />Continuing with our synopsis of the book:<br /><br />Chapter 26 – The Ocasional Discovery<br /><br />In Neuwegersleben, on January 14 2016, CB’s neighbour calls the local police because of a nauseating smell that came from a certain place of the plot where CB resided in an autocaravan. The stink was so intense that unlike the earth it did not freeze. <br /><br /><span><a name='more'></a></span>30 cm (1 ft) deep the police found the dead body of a Labrador and underneath it a LIDL supermarket bag containing «firewood».<br /><br />It was found and apprehended in the LIDL bag 6 pen-drives and 2 memory cards which contained “photos of children, including those of an unknown child in sensual poses and, mainly, Word documents which the police responsible for the find describe as writings about serious sexual abuse against children. Later, BKA identifies these and other writings as two documents produced by the suspect with the titles of «Das Buch» [Google translate: «The Book»] and «Das Buch 1». These «books» said to be autobiographic speak of himself and of friends and describe criminal practices. It’s unknown if we are before realities or pure fantasies, but the fact is that the finding of all this material was and is useful for the construction of a suspect.”<br /><br />For the sexual abuse by production of photos against an unidentified child the suspect is condemned to 1 year and 3 months in prison. <br /><br />On June 8 2016, an arrest warrant for the possession of child porn was issued. Two months later [August 2016], not knowing the whereabouts of the sentenced man, a European arrest warrant was issued.<br /><br />In June 2017, CB was arrested in São Bartolomeu de Messines, in the Algarve when the GNR was called because he was either urinating or exhibiting himself in front of children in a local festivity.<br /><br />On June 26 2017 CB is extradited to Germany to serve his sentence.<br /><br />Only in July 2018, is the child in the photos identified. She was 4 yr old at the time and is the daughter of a female friend of CB. They met in Germany at the beginning of 2013. The child’s mother even declares that she doesn’t believe CB had abused her daughter but the police “made the point of stressing that he had been condemned for child sex abuse, in question the production of photos.”<br /></div><div> <br /> <br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><b>2. <u>Our analysis </u></b><u><br /></u><br /><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">Textusa</a><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">25 Oct 2021, 16:20:00</a><br /><br />We would just to like to point out that we find it strange how in winter, in Germany, outdoors, there can be a smell, even of o rotting dead dog buried a foot deep that would alert a neighbour. Freezing slows down the decomposition process and, as far as we know, rotting tissue freezes like any other.<br /><br />Then, we saw in Chapter 15 that Brueckner seems to be fully aware of the need to destroy damning evidence of heinous acts/crimes, goes and buries under a dead dog, just a foot deep, 8 electronic memory devices. Out of which, it is described this far, 2 Word docs and photos of a child are found. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;">Basically, it seems at least, the vast majority of the devices didn’t contain damning information, so why hide them beneath a dead dog?<br /><br />Then, what would be the purpose of hiding the pens and cards beneath the dog, outdoors in the middle of winter? <br /><br />If to retrieve them later, then we think that burying them in the ground, a wet and frozen ground, is not the best place even if in a plastic bag which, being a supermarket bag was not a sealed container.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;">Humidity does tend to damage irreversibly such devices – and here it is pertinent to raise the question, how was the police able to retrieve any information from them? Humidity from natural causes, one has to add to the humidity from the fluids from the decomposition of the dog. <br /><br />If the purpose was to retrieve, then it seems very logic that one would use a small container, a box or a jar, bury it in the yard and it would be close to impossible to ever be found.<br /><br />If the intent was to destroy, it seems to us that the best way to go about it would be to use a hammer and then dispose of it via common garbage.<br /><br />The circumstances in which this evidence was found, is to us very suspicious.<br /></div><div><br /><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b>3. <u>The 2016 searched property</u></b><u><br /> </u><br />By googling “brueckner searches 2016 neuwegersleben” one gets the following images of the searched property:<br /> <br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhehv1GsJyMsh3GsD90XN9ilCVIGNsFu7CCP_m0nsDjvaY4PdEUIMA0xyup6UCH3GwE037kS4REita3WTZ-8eYB-EI_gFShBqh5QH7p_XZKsgBEfR2zrYtC3AEACFGA49o7oBVUKApS8tfp/w400-h243/501x.jpg" /></a><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"> <br /><div style="text-align: justify;">We will leave it up to readers to decide on whether if it's likely for in the middle of winter in Germany, the body of a dog buried a foot deep to have affected in any way the nose of a neighbour... <br /></div></div><div><br /><br /> <br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><b>4. <u>The 2014 searched property</u></b><u><br /> </u><br /> In our comment at <a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">25 Oct 2021, 16:24:00</a>, we said:<br /> <br /> <i>- July 2 2014 – photos of the 4yr old found in a house search, in Brueckner’s residence in Neuwegersleben, Germany. (Chapter 25)<br /> <br /> - January 14 2016 – the police find in Neuwegersleben under the body of a dog, 6 pen-drives and 2 memory cards, containing photos of a 4yr old and 2 Word docs, Book and Book 1. (Chapter 26)</i><br /> <br /> Reacting to this clear discrepancy, we wrote:<br /> <br /><i><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">Textusa</a><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#"> 25 Oct 2021, 16:27:00</a><br /><br />As can be seen there are 2 contradicting dates regarding the house search in Germany, July 2 2014 and January 14 2016.<br /><br />As Chapter 26 details the circumstances of the search in this property and that the arrest warrants were issued in 2016, we will assume as real the 2016 date and will in later comments disregard the 2014 one.</i><br /> <br />To this, we received the following comment:<br /><br /> <i>Anonymous <a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">25 Oct 2021, 18:19:00</a> <br /> <br />The 2014 search was carried out at a Braunschweig apartment, where he was living at the time. CSA had been seen on his computer by the girfriend.</i><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"> <br /><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhHwvhmBf8HKJ6G2xvOHPY8sSMg2M2BiCiNzoNGPDXYR_9iqaX1yIppIKGtYS4wGU4Ic3hMIC9jajxiUTMYEstUqG4QQe0xCR5ZWtP_yTgqHUBEbJcady8JE2vLB7f8cWWyMPzNk19noD22/w400-h234/500x.jpg" /></a><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">(images from this <a href="https://draft.blogger.com/#">CBS</a> article) </span><br /></div><div><br /><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;">One could even say that what was allegedly found under the body of a dog in 2016 had already been found in 2014...<br /> <br />That would certainly provide a cover for him having only been sentenced in 2017 for it, wouldn't it?<br /></div>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-802073214521507582021-11-05T19:07:00.000+00:002021-11-05T19:07:08.223+00:00Chapter 25 – The Construction of a Suspect<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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</p><p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhp_lipVw50dCQiTj0P1kxDcmVPbXtheZXyYBjXFi_meryxhKztIDhql7rHDbLskHbTNcg-CYupNg_1N0PVnlQC6dVA_GwMjjPEtXVBJlWUQ92kNarBGlfFRiDsLbabWfzCdSAL_P_Gt9Y/s783/500x.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="783" data-original-width="500" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhp_lipVw50dCQiTj0P1kxDcmVPbXtheZXyYBjXFi_meryxhKztIDhql7rHDbLskHbTNcg-CYupNg_1N0PVnlQC6dVA_GwMjjPEtXVBJlWUQ92kNarBGlfFRiDsLbabWfzCdSAL_P_Gt9Y/w255-h400/500x.jpg" width="255" /></a></b></div><b><br /></b><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>1. <u>Introduction</u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As our readers know, in the comments we are in the process
of making a synopsis of Amaral’s book “Maddie, Basta de Mentiras!” (Maddie,
Enough with the Lies!)</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span></span></p><a name='more'></a> We decided to make each chapter a separate posts, so that we
are able to put up a list of links in the side column of the blog, making it
easier for our readers and ourselves to go back and forth on the details the
book contains, and it has many.<p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We have done from Chapters 25 to 29, so we will simply copy
over in independent posts the comments we made about each one.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <b>2. <u>Our synopsis</u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030">Textusa</a><a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2021/06/goncalo-amaral-on-cdm-enough-with-lies.html?showComment=1634767923516#c2525641859531255083">20
Oct 2021, 23:12:00</a>
</p><p class="MsoNormal">We will, on our rhythm, express our opinions on the book
separating the analysis of it in the 2 parts we think it has: Maddie and
Brueckner.<br />
<br />
We will start with Brueckner first, who first appears in the book in Chapter 25
– The Construction of a Suspect.<br />
<br />
It is clear that Amaral thinks that Rechen (name of the German operation
pursuing the investigation of Brueckner (Rechen stands for Rake)) is an
operation that already has many years. In fact, Chapter 20 is called «Grange,
Rechen & Associates» and Ecce Homo. This chapter is about Tannerman. We
remind readers that Tannerman (Ecce Homo) appeared in October 2013 in the same
so-called documentary that the 2 e-fits made their public debut. <br />
<br />
With the title of this chapter – still in the part dedicated to Maddie – Amaral
links Grange and Rechen.<br />
<br />
Back to Chapter 25, he quotes Luís Neves, present head of the PJ, the words he
said to Amaral during the Lisbon trial, which he attended out of free will
“«They…» - wanting to refer to the British police – «should already have found
someone who would fit in the profile of abductor. The suspicion would remain
and the case would finish»”.<br />
<br />
Amaral says that NPIA was ignored because it said the parents should be
considered in the investigations but Grange and Rechen with the cooperation of
the Portuguese police follow one direction, to find an individual who fits the
desired profile. Reaffirms that the Portuguese justice cannot let go of its
competence and become a mere cooperative spectator.<br />
<br />
A name in the PJ Files seems to fit: a 31 yr old (in 2007), male, residing in
the area, suspect of robbing apartments in PdL and with an history of crimes
against children.<br />
<br />
A German citizen who up to 2015 only has 1 sentence for sexual abuse of
children and sexual acts which happened in 1995. Because of this sentence he
moved to the South of Portugal with a girlfriend. In Portugal he lives off
seasonal work and according to friends and acquaintances, of burglary, receipt
of stolen solar panels and diesel. For this last crime, stealing fuel he was in
prison in 2006.<br />
<br />
In 2014, BKA has access to a Skype chat of March 29 2013 between a
wahnsinnderholger (google translate: insane recuperator), Brueckner and a Frank
S.. In this convo, wahnsinnderholger says “«[…] finally I want to f*ck a little
one! […] take something small and use it for days […]»”<br />
<br />
When alerted to the risks of such acts wahnsinnderholger replies “Oh, if the
evidence is destroyed after”. This is interpreted as wanting to kill his
victim.<br />
<br />
This wahnsinnderholger doesn’t stop there (sexual abuse and murder) he also
wants to film the abuse while torturing the victim.<br />
<br />
This shows that since 2014 the police knew that wahnsinnderholger had the
intention of filming the torture and sexual abuse. This before any other said
credible witness having come forward formally.<br />
<br />
But what wahnsinnderholger writes does not match his acts. In June 16 2013 – 2
months after that chat conversation – CB took very abusive pictures of a 4yr
old girl. He photographed her genitalia among other, according to the police,
sensual poses. These photos were found in a house search on July 2 2014. At the
time the victim was not identified (will be identified later in the book). CB
was sentenced to 1 yr and 3 months and reason why he was extradited from
Portugal in 2017.<br />
<br />
It’s not known what happened to these photos but shows that although having in
“his possession” a child, he did not have sex with her, did not torture or kill
her contrary to the desires expressed in the convo with Frank S.<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>3. <u>Our analysis</u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030">Textusa</a><a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2021/06/goncalo-amaral-on-cdm-enough-with-lies.html?showComment=1634768313841#c8967346341717402573">20
Oct 2021, 23:18:00</a>
</p><p>We would like to highlight that according to the above,
although wahnsinnderholger seems to be perfectly aware that any and all
evidence that the heinous acts he describes in the conversation and supposedly
intends to pursue, needs to be destroyed but later has evidence (the pictures
of the 4yr old) that is found by the police.<br />
<br />
Also it should said that Frank S has a criminal history of acquisition,
possession and distribution of child porn.<br /></p>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-36538729040975340692021-06-15T16:44:00.001+01:002021-06-15T16:44:08.857+01:00Gonçalo Amaral on CdM: "Enough with the lies" - comments continue III<p style="text-align: center;"> <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0wLD3xGMm19DfTK8L86WurxrsKw3h0uoitUPHesU7oq3ZHs8nKWmFXTfc4-p6XMd6ua5T12xKkrTD10ufUvHiHIB6YH5RLgmk6jpvZAUJXFo5nt0dS60srvNrNs_V4a7Au32j7O6uDhFk/s1600/corte.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="748" data-original-width="1040" height="287" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0wLD3xGMm19DfTK8L86WurxrsKw3h0uoitUPHesU7oq3ZHs8nKWmFXTfc4-p6XMd6ua5T12xKkrTD10ufUvHiHIB6YH5RLgmk6jpvZAUJXFo5nt0dS60srvNrNs_V4a7Au32j7O6uDhFk/s400/corte.jpg" width="400" /></a></p><div style="text-align: justify;">In the tradition of our “comments continue” posts, having the previous post reached almost 200 comments, this one has
been put up to allow us and our readers to continue to comment on the
case.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;">Please note that the previous post only reached, at the time we are publishing this, 183 comments. The reason we are creating a new post is because we want to give greater visibility to a particular comment we will publish.<br /></div>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com135tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-7669112834460671602020-10-27T10:44:00.000+00:002020-10-27T10:44:21.510+00:00Gonçalo Amaral on CdM: "Enough with the lies" - comments continue II<p style="text-align: center;"> <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0wLD3xGMm19DfTK8L86WurxrsKw3h0uoitUPHesU7oq3ZHs8nKWmFXTfc4-p6XMd6ua5T12xKkrTD10ufUvHiHIB6YH5RLgmk6jpvZAUJXFo5nt0dS60srvNrNs_V4a7Au32j7O6uDhFk/s1600/corte.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="748" data-original-width="1040" height="287" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0wLD3xGMm19DfTK8L86WurxrsKw3h0uoitUPHesU7oq3ZHs8nKWmFXTfc4-p6XMd6ua5T12xKkrTD10ufUvHiHIB6YH5RLgmk6jpvZAUJXFo5nt0dS60srvNrNs_V4a7Au32j7O6uDhFk/s400/corte.jpg" width="400" /></a></p><div style="text-align: justify;">In the tradition of our “comments continue” posts, having the original post reached 200 comments, this one has
been put up to allow us and our readers to continue to comment on the
case.</div>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com183tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-92070731106978862602020-08-06T15:46:00.008+01:002020-08-06T17:17:33.032+01:00Gonçalo Amaral on CdM: "Enough with the lies" - comments continue<p style="text-align: center;"> <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0wLD3xGMm19DfTK8L86WurxrsKw3h0uoitUPHesU7oq3ZHs8nKWmFXTfc4-p6XMd6ua5T12xKkrTD10ufUvHiHIB6YH5RLgmk6jpvZAUJXFo5nt0dS60srvNrNs_V4a7Au32j7O6uDhFk/s1600/corte.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="748" data-original-width="1040" height="287" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0wLD3xGMm19DfTK8L86WurxrsKw3h0uoitUPHesU7oq3ZHs8nKWmFXTfc4-p6XMd6ua5T12xKkrTD10ufUvHiHIB6YH5RLgmk6jpvZAUJXFo5nt0dS60srvNrNs_V4a7Au32j7O6uDhFk/s400/corte.jpg" width="400" /></a></p><div style="text-align: justify;">In the tradition of our “comments continue” posts, having the original post reached 200 comments, this one has
been put up to allow us and our readers to continue to comment on the
case.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;">We would like to refer readers to our <a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2020/06/goncalo-amaral-on-cdm-enough-with-lies.html?showComment=1596724094784#c2147014568276466985">previous post</a> for comments on Brueckner's hearing and press articles, starting with our comment at <span class="datetime secondary-text"><a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2020/06/goncalo-amaral-on-cdm-enough-with-lies.html?showComment=1596710333173#c5687395166973608885" rel="nofollow">6 Aug 2020, 11:38:00</a>, which we transcribed the article from the Telegraph that no longer exists.<br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;"> <br /></div>Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com199tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-49466280858189123222020-06-28T19:25:00.003+01:002020-08-06T15:43:00.100+01:00Gonçalo Amaral on CdM: "Enough with the lies"<div style="text-align: justify;">
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Article translated by Joana Morais.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/ate-agora-nada-foi-provado-goncalo-amaral-analisa-pistas-alemas-do-caso-maddie-veja-agora-na-cmtv" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>"Enough with the lies": Gonçalo Amaral calls into question the statement of a McCann friend and believes that the solution to the Maddie case "may be in there"</b></span></a><br />
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<b>Former inspector points out flaws in the German police investigation and defends Judiciary Police</b><br />
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The former inspector of the Judiciary Police (PJ), Gonçalo Amaral, said this Saturday during an interview with CMTV, that <span style="color: blue;"><i>"nothing has been proven"</i></span> so far in the case of the disappearance of Maddie from Praia da Luz, in May 2007, and believes that <span style="color: blue;"><i>"Portugal is in a position to crack the Maddie case"</i></span>.<br />
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<a name='more'></a>Gonçalo Amaral recalled that an investigation is confined to facts and, based on them, conclusions are advanced or not. According to the former PJ, in the September 2007 interim report on the case of the disappearance of the English child, the hypothesis was that a corpse was concealed. However, Gonçalo Amaral reminds that there was no accusation, in an allusion to the most recent investigations by the German and English police.<br />
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At a time when the German police have new leads on the case, Gonçalo Amaral said that, so far, <span style="color: blue;"><i>"nothing has been proven"</i></span>.<br />
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<b>German investigation and reconstruction of the image of the German suspect</b><br />
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In an analysis of the already published picture of the German suspect Christian Brueckner, the former inspector has no doubts: <span style="color: blue;"><i>"it cannot be </i></span>[him]<span style="color: blue;"><i>"</i></span>. Gonçalo Amaral explained that in question is the fact that the German had short hair at the time of Maddie's disappearance however the testimonies spoke of a long hair. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"Do they want people to be identified? So let's be serious"</i></span>, said the inspector, who criticizes the release of a current photograph of the suspect instead of a picture [of how he looked].<br />
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Amaral is convinced that the German prosecutor did not read the process concerning the English girl's case. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"When the German prosecutor says the man came in through the window, forget it, he didn't read the files"</i></span>, he said.<br />
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The former PJ stressed that German police officers <span style="color: blue;"><i>"are not incompetent, they are rigorous"</i></span>, but questions whether the new German suspect is a tactic for the authorities to resolve the case in a "competent" way.<br />
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As for the English authorities, Amaral believes that they too <span style="color: blue;"><i>"are looking for paedophiles who fit in the abduction theory, without however proving that there has been an abduction"</i></span>.<br />
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The cadaver dogs, brought by the British authorities, detected blood in the house, but that evidence was eventually depreciated. <i><span style="color: blue;">"The English laboratory wrecked the results"</span></i>, said Gonçalo Amaral, who reproaches the laboratory technician of expressing opinions about the results.<br />
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The former inspector appealed to investigators on the case to read the process from start to finish or otherwise face an investigation failure. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"There are things that are lacking in the process"</i></span>, he recalled, appealing for the continuation of the investigation.<br />
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Amaral stressed again that, currently, Christian Brueckner <span style="color: blue;"><i>"is an almost perfect suspect, </i></span>[to be one]<span style="color: blue;"><i> he just needs to be dead"</i></span>.<br />
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<b>Maddie's medical history could be essential for investigation</b><br />
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Gonçalo Amaral recalled that Madeleine McCann's medical history was not made available to the authorities, a document that could be essential for the investigation.<br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>"We have to understand who the victim is. The Portuguese know everything about the girl. But there is at least one thing they don't know: the medical history. Neither the parents gave it, nor did the British authorities allowed us to access it"</i></span>, said the former PJ, who recalled the distinctive blemish the English girl had on her eye, an image widely used in publicizing the case.<br />
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The above mentioned document could, according to the former PJ, help to understand if the child could have heart problems due to the effects of the medication that was administered to her.<br />
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On the night of Maddie's disappearance, Kate had inclusively checked several times whether the twin brother and sister were breathing. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"Why does a mother, a doctor, spend the night checking if her children can breathe? Surely there was a risk"</i></span>, points out Amaral, who accuses the mother of not disclosing all the details in the immediate moment following the beginning of the investigation.<br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>"It's all a sham"</i></span>, concludes Gonçalo Amaral, recalling the family and friends statements about the alleged surveillance scheme of the children, while they dined at the Ocean Club restaurant.<br />
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<b><span style="color: blue;"><i>"Parents should have been considered as suspects"</i></span>: Former inspector defends the reconstitution</b><br />
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The former inspector <span style="color: blue;"><i>"has no doubt"</i></span> that the presence of the [tracking] dogs, at the request of Kate and Gerry McCann, worked to contaminate the evidence inside the apartment. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"You can't be altering evidence"</i></span>, he recollected.<br />
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Gonçalo Amaral once again defended the reconstruction of the case and reinforced the need for the McCann couple and friends to return to Portugal in order to detail the day of the girl's disappearance. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"The parents should have been considered as suspects and treated as such"</i></span>, he added.<br />
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According to the former inspector, the Portuguese authorities did not, for example, have access to photographs of the dinner on the day of the disappearance.<br />
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<b>Importance of cell phones and witnesses in the investigation</b><br />
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On the matter of the cell phones and the association of the cell phone numbers during the investigation at the time of the disappearance, Gonçalo Amaral has doubts about the origin of those numbers recently associated with the German suspect Christian Brueckner: <span style="color: blue;"><i>"Is anyone sure that this phone belongs to this man?”</i></span> he questioned, underlining that <span style="color: blue;"><i>"small details like this, is what makes the evidence"</i></span>.<br />
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The former PJ believes that if the German police knew that the phone number belonged to Brueckner, <span style="color: blue;"><i>"they wouldn't need to seek for more information."</i></span><br />
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Among the witnesses in the process are several friends of the McCann couple who were on holidays [with them] in Praia da Luz at the time of the disappearance.<br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>"Enough with the lies"</i></span>, said Amaral, referring to the statement of the couple’s friend, Jane Tanner, who alleged that she saw a man carrying a child on the night of the child's disappearance. The inspector said that Tanner lied in her statement about the time, place and direction in which she saw the man and that she should, at the present time, make a <span style="color: blue;"><i>"sworn statement"</i></span>. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"The solution may be in that"</i></span>, alerted the former inspector.<br />
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<br /><br /> <b>Judiciary Police admitted to the abduction of the child after <span style="color: blue;"><i>“British ambassador's request”</i></span></b><br /><br />The former Judiciary Police (PJ) coordinator who investigated Maddie's disappearance, Gonçalo Amaral, revealed yesterday on CMTV that the PJ initially admitted the possibility of the abduction of the child following a request by the British ambassador. <span style="color: blue;"><i>"The parents should have been treated as suspects from the start. But there were other pressures. It is not for nothing that the then British ambassador went to the site. The director of the Faro PJ </i></span>[Guilhermino Encarnação]<span style="color: blue;"><i> announced that she was abducted after speaking with the ambassador"</i></span>, revealed the former inspector, who considers that the German prosecutor who announced that Christian Brueckner is the main suspect in Maddie's abduction and death <span style="color: blue;"><i>"has not yet read the process"</i></span>.<br /><br /><br />in Correio da Manhã Weekend (paper edition) June 28, 2020 </div>
Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com201tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-92148976162414844232020-06-27T23:19:00.001+01:002020-06-27T23:19:16.729+01:00José Manuel Anes - CMTV, June 27 2020, 15:20<div style="text-align: justify;">
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>João Ferreira: </b>In the studio I have José Manuel Anes, former president of the Criminalized Security and Terrorism Observatory </span></i>[<a href="http://oscot.pt/">OSCOT</a>]<i><span style="color: purple;"> and also a university professor, good afternoon Professor for your presence...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>José Manuel Anes: </b>Good afternoon, João, thank you.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Well, at a first moment the Professor was critical of the PJ's performance, in fact you were present in court in the process which Maddie's moved against Gonçalo Amaral and in court you even said that, that at first the PJ failed. Why?</span></i><br />
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<a name='more'></a><i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> That is, I think that ... if ... I was inside the investigations but from what I saw from the outside, it seems that they have narrowed down to one hypothesis, but I am sure that my friend...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> They bet all clues all on the thesis...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> There it is.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …abduction?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> There is a very good theory of information analysis that has to do with the criminal investigation that is the ... the hypotheses in competition, and that there were 3 already, according to Gonçalo Amaral himself said, the homicide, it was abduction and it was the accident, right. Now, I think that ... this was not the only thing I said either. I said that the investigator in relation to a situation has several suspects and, as a historic of the Judiciary Police said, Chief Viegas, from the Algarve, “my son, in principle everyone is a suspect, then we will eliminate, and no one can be feel offended”…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> And was that the capital sin of the PJ at the beginning of the investigations for not putting the parents as suspects...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> That is...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …at a first moment?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Hey man, they have to be! It is a question... this is not an offense. It is a question of cold, rational methodology.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Now, José Manuel Anes, here is a revelation... it is the first exclusive revelation of this special operation of Maddie... after being present in court...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> That's right ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> ...the defense of Maddie's parents invited you...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> That’s right.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> ...to be an advisor to the McCann.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> I received a very nice letter from the lawyer, but I was rude. I didn't even reply. Because I already…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> What did that letter say? Did it invite you to be an advisor?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Yes, to be an advisor ... in short, for the McCann defense, and I in fact...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Is this the first time you say that?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> It is. It is. This is a... a first-time revelation ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> This is a… a worldwide exclusive…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> …that I’m doing…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …it’s… it's a worldwide exclusive.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> I have kept that letter but, in fact, I didn't reply to it, firstly, because the house to where I was linked and worked for 20 years...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> In the… in the… PJ</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> In the PJ, in the Scientific Police Laboratory, deserves all respect. Secondly, inspector Gonçalo Amaral himself, regardless of one thing or another, who does not sometimes commit, sometimes, flaws in their professional life? And I have the greatest respect. Therefore, I did not reply. And in the middle...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> What was that invitation made for, in your opinion? To weaken Gonçalo Amaral?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Exactly, because they asked me “ah, but do you think he should have written the book?” I said, "look, I wouldn't do it, but those who know that he was harassed ..." Inspector Gonçalo Amaral is a martyr of the investigation, I should say. I even think it was in one of the “Prós and Contras” that I said, I was with Francisco Moita Flores and I said “look, the criminal investigation in this case was the victim of the leak… of a bad… of the press”. Bad, what do I mean by that? The press has every right to report, to question…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> To investigate as well, right?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> To investigate as well. However, the criminal investigation should read few newspapers, especially in case so mediatic as this one.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Now, Professor, tell me something, also based on your ... well, on your experience, you have just... stressed that you spent 20 years at PJ, in relation to this new suspect of the German lead, the... the... this man's profile fits as someone who was responsible for Maddie's abduction and murder?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> He fits. In fact, he has the worst record and a profile in relation to this type of crime. Now, I think it is essential to have evidence, and inspector Gonçalo Amaral I believe that ... he observed him but there was nothing concrete about him. Even the Irish say that the person they saw passing with the child in his arms, who was not this...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> That is... it is an information extremely...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> …and therefore is not true...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …relevant and very recent.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> …and deserves now, it may be but there is nothing concrete, right.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Professor, a very good afternoon and thank you for your participation in this special CMTV operation. Maddie, the Enigma, a worldwide exclusive revelation, Manuel Anes was invited by the McCanns' defense to be an advisor to Maddie's parents.</span></i><br />
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About this interview, Joana Morais tweeted this afternoon:<br />
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Joana (A of Antifa) Morais@JoanaAMorais<br />
#BreakingNews #McCanns tried to enlist Dr. José Manuel Anes, the head of OSCOT, Observatory on Security, Organized Crime and Terrorism, as their adviser (consultant), allegedly after the STJ trial. He never replied to their invitation, categorically refusing to cooperate w/them.<br />
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Joana (A of Antifa) Morais@JoanaAMorais<br />
This raises several questions, namely, are the #McCanns attempting to enlist Portuguese public figures, to get some heavyweight witnesses in the case they are trying to take against the Portugal at the #ECtHR, after exhausting all legal the recourses in Portugal, in a vain<br />
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Joana (A of Antifa) Morais@JoanaAMorais<br />
* errata "all the legal recourses"<br />
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Joana (A of Antifa) Morais@JoanaAMorais<br />
attempt to ban a book and a documentary. The #McCann's lawyers should advise their clients that this country suffered 48 years of dictatorship, we don't like people mimicking fascists banning books. Also, their claims against Portugal have no legs to stand on, they initiated the<br />
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Joana (A of Antifa) Morais@JoanaAMorais<br />
..legal proceedings, spending the money that was donated by the public to search for Madeleine #McCann in a pointless over 10 year legal battle, resources that could have been used for what they were meant in the first place. #McCann<br />
5:12 PM · Jun 27, 2020<br />
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Joana (A of Antifa) Morais@JoanaAMorais<br />
Read for context <a href="https://portugalresident.com/mccanns-frivolity-complaint-rejected-goncalo-amarals-libel-win-confirmed-for-3rd-time/">https://portugalresident.com/mccanns-frivolity-complaint-rejected-goncalo-amarals-libel-win-confirmed-for-3rd-time/</a>… and <a href="https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2017/03/on-mccanns-request-for-annulment-of.html">https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2017/03/on-mccanns-request-for-annulment-of.html</a>… #McCann<br />
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<b><u>The original</u>:</b><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>João Ferreira:</b> No estúdio tenho José Manuel Anes, ex-presidente do Observatório de Segurança Criminalizada e Terrorismo e também professor universitário, boa tarde Professor pela sua presença…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>José Manuel Anes:</b> Boa tarde, João, obrigado.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Bom, o Professor foi crítico da actuação da PJ num primiero momento, aliás esteve presente em tribunal no processo em que os pais de Maddie accionaram contra Gonçalo Amaral e e em tribunal disse mesmo isso, que num primeiro momento a PJ falhou. Porquê?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Isto é, eu penso que… se… eu não estive por dentro das investigações mas por aquilo que eu vi de fora, parece que afunilaram em relaçaõ a uma hipótese apenas, mas tenho a certeza que o meu amigo…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Apostaram as pistas todas só na tese…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Aí está.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> … do rapto?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Há uma teroria muito boa de análise de informações que tem a ver com a investigação criminal que é o… as hipóteses em competição, e que havia para já 3 segundo o próprio Gonçalo Amaral disse, o homicídio, era o rapto e era o acidente, pronto. Ora bem, eu penso que… também não foi a única coisa que eu disse. Eu disse que o investigador em relação a uma situação tem vários suspeitos e, como dizia um histórico da Polícia Judiciária, o Chefe Viegas , algarvio, “meu filho, em princípio todo são suspeitos, depois é que vamos eliminar, e ninguém se pode sentir ofendido”…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> E esse foi o pecado capital da PJ no início das investigações ao não colocar os pais como suspeitos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Isso é…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …num primeiro momento?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Eh pá, têm que ser! É uma questão… isto não tem nada de ofensivo. É uma questão de metodologia fria, racional.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Agora, José Manuel Anes, vamos aqui a uma revelação… é a primeira revelação exclusiva desta operação especial da Maddie… depois de ter estado presente em tribunal…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Exacto…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …a defesa dos pais de Maddie convidou-o…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> É.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …para ser assessor dos McCann.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Eu recebi uma carta muito simpática da advogada, mas fui mal-criado. Nem sequer respondi. Porque eu já…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> O que é que essa carta dizia? Convidava-o para ser assessor?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> É, para ser assessor… enfim, da defesa dos McCann, e eu de facto…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> É a primeira vez que diz isso?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> É. É. Isto é a… a primeira revelação…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Isto é uma… um exclusivo mundial…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> …que eu faço…</span></i><br />
<i><span style="color: purple;"><br /><b>JF:</b> …é… é um exclusivo mundial.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Eu tenho essa carta guardada mas de facto não respondi, primeiro, porque a casa onde eu estive ligado e trabalhei 20 anos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Na… na… PJ</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Na PJ, no Laboratório de Polícia Científica, merece todo o respeito. Segundo, o próprio inspector Gonçalo Amaral, independentemente de uma ou outra coisa, quem é que não comete, por vezes falhas na sua vida profissional? E tenho o maior respeito. Portanto, eu não respondi. E, a meio…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Esse convite foi feito para quê, na sua opinião? Para fragilizar Gonçalo Amaral?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Exactamente, porque elas perguntaram-me “ah, mas acha que ele devia ter escrito o livro?” Eu disse, “olha eu não o faria, mas quem sabe que ele foi acossado…” Oinspector Gonçalo Amaral é um mártir da investigação, devo-vos dizer. Eu até penso que foi num dos “Prós e Contras” que eu disse, estava eu com o Francisco Moita Flores e eu disse “olha, a investigação criminal deste caso foi vítima da fuga… de má… migo (?) da imprensa”. Mau, o que é que eu quero dizer com isto? A imprensa tem todo o direito de noticiar, de questionar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> De investigar também, não é?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> De investigar também. Mas, convém que a investigação criminal leia poucos jornais, sobretudo num caso tão mediático como aquele.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Agora, Professor, diga uma coisa, baseando também na sua… enfim, na sua experîencia, acabou de… de… de sublinhar que esteve 20 anos na PJ, em relação a este novo suspeito da pista alemã, o… a… o perfil deste homem encaixa em alguém poderia ter sido responsável pelo rapto e homicídio de Maddie?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> Encaixa. De facto, ele tem um cadastro e um perfil do pior que há em relação a este tipo de crimes. Agora, eu penso que é fundamental haver provas, e o inspector Gonçalo Amaral creio que… o observou mas não havia nada de concreto relativamente a ele. Até os irlandeses dizem que a pessoa que eles viram passar com a criança ao colo, que não era este...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Essa é… é uma informação extremamente…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> …e portanto não é verdade...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> …relevante e muito recente.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JMA:</b> …e merece agora, pode ser mas não há nada de concreto, pronto.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JF:</b> Professor, muito boa tarde e obrigado pela sua participação nesta operação especial da CMTV. Maddie, o Enigma, uma revelação com exclusivo mundial, Manuel Anes foi convidado pela defesa dos McCann para ser assessor dos pais de Maddie.</span></i> </div>
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Carlos Carmo, former coordinator of the Judiciary Police, analyses new developments in the investigation.</div>
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The former PJ inspector considers that the English police works with a budget that allows paying informants and that, therefore, <span style="color: blue;"><i>“from time to time some suspects will appear”</i></span>, but that there does not seem to be any certainty concerning tangible evidence about the German man considered as a formal suspect<br />
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Sic Notícias Night Edition News (Jornal da Noite), broadcast on June 3, 2020<br />
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Journalist and News anchor Rodrigo Pratas (RP)<br />
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Former PJ inspector Carlos Pinto do Carmo, commentator on SIC TV news channel (CC)<br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>Rodrigo Pratas (RP) –</b> Carlos do Carmo, former coordinator of the Judiciary Police and commentator on the Sic programme ‘Linha Aberta’ </i></span>[Open Line]<span style="color: purple;"><i>, is the guest of this night edition. Very good evening, thank you for being here.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>Carlos do Carmo (CC) – </b>Good evening.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP – </b>We were talking earlier about the Metropolitan Police press release, I have it here, it’s four pages of a press statement with very specific information, with appeals, these phone numbers, the photographs of the vehicles, etc. And yet, the Portuguese Judiciary Police (PJ) issued a notice that has one, two, three, four paragraphs, five paragraphs. Ahem, can you find an explanation for this (discrepancy), for the PJ’s communiqué having less information than the English police one? Knowing as you do the Portuguese Judiciary Police, as you know the Metropolitan police?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC – </b>Before anything else, good evening. The Judiciary Police communiqué certainly is one that translates the belief of the police forces that are working together, there’s cooperation, an international police joint effort, and undoubtedly our Judiciary Police, the holder of the process, which is now archived and controller of the investigation, certainly collaborated with the German authorities, right? With the German police authorities.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP - </b>But they don’t advance much information, they just say, “investigative steps continue to be carried out for the complete clarification of the situation”, in close cooperation with the German and English authorities but nothing truly specific. And here we are, a little bit after thirteen years since the disappearance of the child, once again another investigative line. From the experience that you have, the contacts and the knowledge that you have about the way the English police authorities conduct their investigations, could this mean that this is a will-o'-the-wisp, so to speak, just like other investigative lines that ended up with zilch.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC – </b>We just recently had the anniversary marking the disappearance of Maddie McCann. Over the years, occasionally some suspects emerge, it shouldn’t be forgotten that the English police works with quite a high financial budget, what I mean by this is that it is possible to use informants, to pay to informants, to see if the police can gather criminal intelligence. Therefore, I would not be surprised that the case, this case of the German man, that is detained, in jail, is also a case stemming from intelligence collected by the BKA </i></span>[German Police acronym for Bundeskriminalamt]<span style="color: blue;"><i>. However, we do not know what the reliability of that information is; note that the communiqué of the German police is broad, but simultaneously also looks to grasp at something more, it speaks of vehicles, two vehicles, speaks of the stay of this individual in the area of Portimão. So, they do not seem to be very sure about concrete evidence.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP – </b>But apparently the British television, sorry, German television, the inspector of the case, said that he was convinced that more than a kidnapping, there had been a homicide. What is your interpretation of these two methods of presenting the case by the two police forces of the two countries, one just as a disappearance and the other also as a homicide?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC – </b>Yes, the understanding that I have is as follows; from the beginning that in view of the given facts, all the hypotheses were placed on the table, that is, the hypothesis of a crime of abduction, the hypothesis of a crime of homicide, the hypothesis of an accidental death, in actuality the accidental death was the one that attained more substantiation, because we cannot forget that the first person responsible for the investigation (Gonçalo Amaral) was guided by the hypothesis that the child had died in that apartment and that eventually the parents had, at least, collaborated with someone in the disappearance of the cadaver.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP - </b>And of the vestiges.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC –</b> And of the vestiges (nods agreeing). But I want to stress the following; there is at least one hypothesis of the practice of a crime, of exposure to abandonment of that child. Note that, the parents were with other friends celebrating their holidays, eating, and drinking, near-by the apartments. The children were in the apartment. We cannot forget that the child in question was four years old!</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP -</b> And her brother and sister were even younger.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC – </b>Well then, someone that is enthralled about having fun and pays little to no attention to children that they have in the apartment, what might happen then? What can happen is that that person is placing at risk the very life of the child, because the child can be abandoned, without protection. The parents had the duty of care, of watching over those children. That did not happen. Even if it was considered as eventual intent </i></span>[dolo eventual]<span style="color: blue;"><i>, not thinking that there was an intention by the parents for something to happen purposefully to the children, - that for me is out of the question - but in reality, if the parents were distracted with diversion, going out several times to check upon the children, the risk of death or of harm to the physical integrity could still occur. That hypothesis was weighed on right at the start. But the truth is, the parents weren’t constituted as arguidos </i></span>[formal suspects]<span style="color: blue;"><i> for this crime, and this crime, in my opinion, is applicable. In my view, the actions of the parents embody that crime, that is foreseen in the Penal Code, in the 138 article and is a serious crime! Since the descendants, my apologies the ascendants, are responsible for the creation of situation of danger, the crime is punishable from two up to five years, and if the child dies, the sentence can go from three up to ten years, it’s a serious crime!</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP – </b>Let me go back to the Metropolitan police press release to examine further this issue of the phone numbers, of the two phone numbers and the press release appeals for people who might know those phone numbers, and they are 912730680 and 916510683, these are the numbers that are in the release. Someone that might have still these numbers in an old phone or in a current one, or have these numbers saved in any kind of electronic device, any of these numbers so people may be able to help the investigation. Hence, I ask, but isn’t reasonable to expect that the three countries authorities’ investigation should already have accesses to a log of the route of these phones? Since they have the information of the existence of a thirty minutes phone call, how come they don’t have access to the phone log data and the location through the antennae?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC - </b>We don’t know if the Judiciary Police…</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP – </b>We don’t know if they do or don’t have that, that’s right.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC - </b>We don’t know if they do or don’t, yes.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP – </b>But if they are appealing for these contacts, one can assume that they don’t have that information. Or no?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC - </b>Well, I believe that no; I think that at the beginning several means were used, of the Judiciary Police, of our Judiciary Police, and also of the Metropolitan Police who came to Portugal immediately in order to cooperate in the investigation. I believe that at that time the phone data was requested to the telecom operators, the log of the phone numbers that were eventually activated in the area.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP - </b>Activated in the antennae of the area.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC – </b>Precisely. In the cell phone antennae. I believe that this is what might have happened, but there’s something that I want to state here; all of that, what purpose can it serve? That is, the person in question might have even talked for thirty minutes, but what was the conversation about? What was the content of the conversation? Look, this person that is in jail was already questioned, and it seems, from what it is known, that he didn’t cooperate in elucidating if he was or not in Portugal at that time, in that moment of Maddie’s disappearance and if whether he has any responsibility in her disappearance. He didn’t clarify any of that, he didn’t cooperate. And why should he cooperate? Does he effectively have any responsibility to the facts that were investigated, that appear in the process that is archived? We don’t know. So, it seems to me that all of this is minimal to get to the objective conclusion and to the gathering of evidence that may finally explain what exactly happened to Maddie. It’s not, therefore, nor it ever was out of the question the initial investigative line that entails the responsibility of the parents as they did not take care to watch over, did not take care of the child. Moreover, I can tell you if they had done in London, or in any English town what they did here in Portugal, they would have had serious criminal and judicial liabilities.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>RP –</b> Carlos do Carmo, thank you so much for coming to the night edition with your views about this situation. Have a very good night.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>CC – </b>You’re welcome.</i></span><br />
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A huge thank you to Joana!<br />
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We would like to highlight the date of this interview: June 4. This was on the next day after this story broke out on the evening of June 3.</div>
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We are publishing today the second part of Gonçalo Amaral's appearance on the "Jornal das 8", last Sunday.</div>
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>José Alberto Carvalho: </b>Let me ask you this question Gonçalo Amaral, could Christian Brueckner be the author of… whatever happened to Madeleine McCann or not?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Gonçalo Amaral: </b>To answer that question, it needs first to be demonstrated that there was an abduction. And what I can demonstrate is that all those people who were there lied, there was never any scheme to… monitor the children who were at home, sleeping in the apartments… they went to the apartments to use the WC, this is written in statements they made, they told the receptionist that they were going to the apartment to see their children, they didn’t say they were going to the bathroom because the bathroom by the pool didn’t have great conditions to go there, they simulated a situation of abduction with the window, with the opening of it all... saying that the window was open, it was closed, a big mess...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> First it was closed, then it was open...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Where, where there is only one fingerprint...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm, hmmm</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …that is from the child's mother… there are no signs of burglary in that apartment, so, there are only 2 ways to get in, one with a false key, which was investigated and we did not reach conclusions that said it could have been used, so in principle it was not and the other entrance through the entrance of the sliding doors where everyone entered, alone. They led us… so, they lied, there were many lies, they led the PJ to… to waste a lot of time and to follow a path that… for example, took us to Robert Murat. There is a witness who tells us... he points the way of the man who carried the child to Robert Murat's villa. And despite this, this… let's say mistake, it was thanks to Robert Murat, thanks to the publicity surrounding Robert Murat, that we were able to have such a testimony from the Irish. That it is one of the Irish who says, that he sees, that he sees that man who he says that, he is their father, that he says, states that he is the father and I don't know in how much percent that he is the girl's father and who says this is not…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gerry McCann was transporting the child...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...it is not Robert Murat, that one I know. So, this is all in the process. And it's in the process, and notice…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But it's also in the process...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Just notice one thing, notice one thing...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral let me, let me try to know...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> This, this, these people, these people, this is important to be said, these people who did what they did, which is... during that week they abandoned their children... where even, in this specific case, in this apartment from which Madeleine disappeared, Madeleine herself, on the previous day, or two before, was around… more than 10 pm crying more than, for more than an hour, screaming for her parents and no one went there, so, we don’t… we don’t know why they didn’t go, but the fact is that the surveillance system was not working, so to speak, or it was no longer necessary at that time, I agree, it may have been for any reason that we don’t know, but the fact is that she was there abandoned. And these people who abandoned their children, who lied to the police and continue to lie because they never told the truth of what actually happened, and that it was necessary to carry out a reconstitution in Portugal, still remains today to move or not move what went on there, and in fact define times, because it is necessary...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Why was this reconstitution never done?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It wasn't done because there was a lot of media pressure. We were unable to do there the reconstitution...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> In peace?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Not just in peace, in practical terms. I, I remind you of just one… it’s… but going back a bit in terms of the reconstitution, these people left Portugal. They left Portugal, they all left and never came here… the… the couple…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But they were here for a long time, in those days after the… the…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Exactly, but the friends had already left, and if they were Portuguese, have no doubts, they were here in Portugal, surely the reconstruction would have been done at any time. Here, the friends later refused to come back to do… do the reconstitution…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But were they summoned to it, were they notified for it?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> They were just as witnesses.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm, hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And they refused to come. And if you notice, if you notice, over the years the British newspapers, and all the other newspapers in the world, are so… but mainly the British are interested in the case and never ever tried to interview some of those people who were there, just and only the couple, so the all others who planned that scheme in terms of delivering 2 controversial documents...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Even in the 8-episode documentary that…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …and I don't know how many more…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …is available on Netflix, these people don't appear, it's true…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And they didn't appear.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> It is true.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And so, just to remind you this, we, from that point at which it was made... this sighting was made, let's say, this testimony...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> That testimony that is related to that night around 10 pm</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...in principle Madeleine was on the man's arms (imperceptible), we tried, we tried at a certain time... running away from journalists, to cover that whole area even in terms of houses, from there to the sea. And when we were almost halfway, one of us is discovered, and we had to leave the area. It was a diligence that we never managed to finish, because of… the confusion that arose there…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> The number of journalists that were there, yes...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> This was...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Let me...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...what happened.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Very well. Gonçalo Amaral, at the time, one can now understand, and I wanted to ask you this: Christian Brueckner was one of the people who came to be identified as one of the people of interest for the investigation at the time, as far as it was reported there were 6… 600 people or over time it was accumulated 600 people time who could be of interest for the investigation…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> A lot of diligences within the process</span></i><i><span style="color: blue;"><i><span style="color: blue;">, surveys were done<span style="color: blue;"><span lang="PT" style="font-family: "times" , serif; font-size: 10pt;"></span></span></span></i>...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Was Christian Brueckner one of those 600 people or not?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Only rereading the whole process finding...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> You have no memory of that?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I have been told that yes, that there went there knocking on the door, colleagues who are retired like me and who said that the person was not at home. But there were hundreds...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But, that is, but it must have been...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> They were in the hundreds, </span></i><i><span style="color: blue;"><i><span style="color: blue;">as, and not only of that type of typology but above all paedophiles</span></i>...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But note one thing Gonçalo Amaral, the, the question that is here... but the question that is here is...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It could have been theft, we also...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> We know that he served a sentence...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …did a survey of burglars, namely burglary in apartments, and apparently this man was not in the list of apartment burglaries, he will have stolen…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Fuel...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes, fuel.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Yes, but now what is known about... apparently what is known about this man is truly worrying, about... from various points of view...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It's like I say, an almost perfect suspect...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But, but... but it is known that he has a long record of sexual crimes...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Hmmm, hmmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …that in contrary to seem to be other such criminals, who do not have a particular fixation on a certain age, there are, there are apparently random behaviours, moreover he is sentenced for the rape of an American tourist…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> What I heard...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …75 years old at, at… the rape happened…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …at Praia da Luz…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes, yes...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> You know also... anyway, I would like to... that is, what I would like to understand is if he was investigated and if... why did the interest in him disappear, or if he was never taken seriously, with the information that was there at the time?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> You know... the, the information there was about paedophiles was only that they were paedophiles and people who were close to the village and as José Alberto said, they are in the hundreds and it is not possible to investigate each one in detail. Going further, I remember that, for example, we reached Albufeira… Albufeira </span></i>[60Km East of PdL]<i><span style="color: blue;"> and Tavira </span></i>[120 km East of PdL]<i><span style="color: blue;"> and so on, and investigations cannot be done that way…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, but wait, this rape of this American tourist...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b>… and note, and note, what if…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> ...was two years before Madeleine's disappearance...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …what if… say again?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> The rape of the 72 year old American tourist, I said 75…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> When was it communicated in terms to the PJ?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> When was it?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I don't know (shrugs)...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> No... I don't know...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I didn’t know of it at the time.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> There was no… no, if… the lady filed a complaint…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> We, for example, I can tell you...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> ...the lady made a complaint...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Where?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> When?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> (…)</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes, in terms of the PJ, in terms of knowing... and if we are looking for a paedophile...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Because this man...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …or are we looking for a, a, a rapist of adults?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> No, no, no... of course...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I remind you...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> ...but it happened two, two years earlier and he, he is now being held in a German prison, exactly serving a sentence, for this crime... this is the crime that led him to, now, to prison. And then it was possible...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And he was identified much later...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> He was identified in 2018...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Well ... there it is, so in 2007 he wasn't identified.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …based on 2 evidences… based on two essential evidences….</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> In 2007 he was not identified.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> ...but there is hair that was found on the victim's bed...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …victim of the rape that was preserved and that now has allowed to update and make a match, make the…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes. But that's another investigation, not the…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Certainly.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...Maddie case, it's another investigation ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But it turns out that this man, who stayed in the Algarve and in that region for some time, it is how this is expl(ained)… this is how, how I try to understand, the photographs that were released by the German police about the houses, the places , vehicles, etc ... and I would also like to hear you about this, about, about these... this exercise from the German police which is to appeal to the memory of someone with some details very... I don't know if they are subtle, no... but, anyway, with some details and, and… do the photographs tell you something, for example, be it of the houses or of the vehicles that the German police revealed?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I think the appeal serves what it serves, because for example the motorhome was removed, it was taken from Portugal to Germany to be examined, so from there...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> A white and yellow VW Westfalia motorhome ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …and what was important was that, trying to understand why… those images that are passed and that were passed…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> These?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...have been altered.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> These? These are the images I collected yesterday, from the website of the German police...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I can show you the… a photograph, which is the photograph of the vehicle that this suspect was using, and would be using in 2007, according to the German police, and which is totally different from what they have shown us…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Is that the vehicle?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> This is the vehicle. And if you notice the photo that is passing in the image there ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But the vehicle is not the same!</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It's the same, it is.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Is it?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> If you notice the photo, if you have another photo of the…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> We have.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …rear of vehicle…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> I think so ... I ... I ... have been gathering ... is it this one, this one?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> If you notice, you can see that in that image there are two details there, first it was covered the... one can noticed that there is a colour missing, there is a black in the middle and there is a new logo on the right side. Then there's the registration plate...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...the registration plate, covered, and has the letter "D", the registration number is Portuguese.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Because the car was...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> The car is from 82 and was registered in Portugal in 2004. If you want you can have the photo.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> So, what you're saying is that this...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Regarding the same pho… the same vehicle…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> This photo is from when, do you have an idea?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> That photograph? That photograph is from last year.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> This is from last year?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It's from last year, so what is intended to be known is, and you have here another photo...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> That is, that is ...but last year that van that we were seeing in the images was already in Germany, or not?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It would have gone from Portugal last year for Germany.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> And was this photograph taken in Portugal or in Germany?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> In Portugal.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> This is another photograph of the same vehicle.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Excuse me...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Now what one asks, what one asks, what?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> That is, what are you saying with this?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> What am I saying? It's evident.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Is that the, the van that was shown in…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ... the, the, the photo of the motorhome is completely different.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> No, this motor… it's not the same motorhome.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> This is the same motorhome.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> This is the same motorhome, and it was the motorhome that was taken from here to Germany, to be examined where... and was used here as a deposit for figs and carob.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm, hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And, it appeared... then this image appears without this personalization, so to speak...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Of these drawings?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes, without those drawings. And what one asks is this, would that vehicle go unnoticed in Praia da Luz, in any other location or not? Surely not. And what one further asks is, there are several... what one asks is, did the... the German authorities come to the conclusion that at the time of 2007 the vehicle was not like this but was still painted white and so on? Who told them that?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Could it be that the German authorities, or the Germans or the English, I don't know who did this, it certainly wasn't in Portugal, because the Portuguese did not disclose the photographs, and in fact they have not disclosed anything in relation to the process, is it that whoever has disclosed that is trying to check information, so to speak? If someone calls, look, I saw the car on this location and... forget it, you didn't see anything because the car was in another way.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, let me ask you, it is possible to know more...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> So there are several versions here...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …information about these photographs, where were they taken?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> These photographs were taken in the Algarve.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> In the Alg .. right, in a location…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> You know that I know a lot of people who, who...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Yes...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...know the Algoz </span></i>[55Km East of PdL]<i><span style="color: blue;"><span style="color: blue;"> </span>area...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …you worked in the Algarve for many years…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...people who are dedicated to picking oranges and other things... so they are photographs.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Now, another question, still in relation to... in the end, I don’t want to be dominating, say, the interview... there is something different about this, in this whole situation of... the almost perfect suspect as I call him, the scapegoat however one wants to say… there is a new data here, a data that hasn’t been arrived yet in terms of information, so, there’s a lot… the bomb was dropped, it was said that the suspect is similar to a… he isn’t, the images that are, are with 43 years old, so if you look at my images from 2013, I am completely different, as people change… but the new data, the new data, what is there, is that someone…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> In other words, instead of disclo… this photograph that is being disseminated is current and it should have been one of 13 years ago, is that what you are saying?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yeah ... that (laughs) would be interesting. And... there's a new data here. The new data is that the German authorities are asking ... they are... it seems that they are trying to reexamine all, all the vestiges, hepatic, biological, hematic and biological...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Blood.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …that have been found. Where? We wait... Where? Inside the apartment, in the vehicle...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Rented...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …rented by the couple and also on the street. There are only 3 places where vestiges were found: inside the apartment, on the street, where there is blood, where these vestiges were collected, and inside the couple's vehicle rented I don't know how many days later, I no longer remember. And this is what is the new data. And this is the big question: do the German authorities think they will solve the case, when… I even thought it was a wrong translation when a… a German police officer says that the child may have been shot inside the apartment… What does that mean? That there was blood. And in fact it was... it was the dogs, those dogs... someone said somewhere... a lawyer </span></i>[<a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2020/06/rogerio-alves-sexta-as-9-june-19-2007.html" target="_blank">Rogério Alves</a>]<i><span style="color: blue;"> connected to the couple said that our investigation, that what was in my book, which is basically our investigation in those 4 months, it was not 13 years, nor 13 months, it was 4 months… that our investigation had been a fantasy, a fable… but you know that dogs were used, dogs sent by the English and suggested by the English, because it was them who suggested a death…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Yes...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> A death, worse, we talk of and...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> I remember those images, the dogs identified the scent of blood...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …we have always talked of an accident and the English speak about homicide. It's not us. They are the ones who talk about homicide. We talk about an accident. This is documented. And, such a shooting produces blood. We… in the examination that was carried out at the site, no vestige of a shooting was found, nor does the child who in the man’s arms show signs of having been shot, what she has is that she is sleeping soundly, this is said by the people who passed by there.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Seemed to be sleeping soundly.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Seemed to be sleeping soundly. And so this is the data, is that the dogs that made these markings and these markings were made by the dogs, the vestiges that were collected with the help of these dogs, from the said fable, are the ones that the German police want to analyse. When saliva is spoken about...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, let me just try, let me just try to understand something...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Just, just to finish this question of the vestiges, when it comes to the saliva in Maddie's bed, it is a lie, it was not in Maddie's bed, it is in the bed by the window, and what the saliva is, is a mixture of baby saliva with breast milk... and were identified, the mother and the people who were in that apartment.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Before the McCanns?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Before the McCanns. And, therefore, we have to wait...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, I only have 1 minute left...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...to understand in what this will give...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …we only have 1 minute here, I would like, I would really like to prolong this conversation but unfortunately it won't be possible. We are here... what could be the interest of the German police in allowing themselves to be seduced, in your opinion by what you have just explained, in face of a, a ... a lead that leads nowhere in your opinion?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It leads. It leads for the German authorities to have competence to investigate the case.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> And they have?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> If they have a German suspect, there are those who say yes, there are those who say no, the case is here...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Can this be good or bad for the discovery of the material truth?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I think that the police ... the Portuguese authorities and the Portuguese police can do here, our laboratories, what the Germans want to do there. There was no need to let it go to Germany again...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> It already was.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It was, it was last year, again something to be examined, it could have been examined here. It had already happened like that, that is said it was a mistake when it was...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Let me repeat this question because it seems that your answer may be interesting, the fact that it is the German police who are conducting the investigation now, based on this, on this pretext, which is what I understand from your words...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> The German police conduct the investigation there in Germany...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But can that be a good thing?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …because here, the PJ is the one conducting the investigation.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> The question is, can this be good and, and relevant, or not for finding evidence that can explain what happened that day? In more (imperceptible)...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Nowadays there are new techniques for, for analysing and, and... for... and even re-analyse what has been examined. If there is enough remnant, it is possible to reach other conclusions. I remind that in the vehicle rented by the couple there are hairs that were returned that is said that by the colouring it’s from the missing girl's, but as they have no root, they are unable to dee… to determine the DNA. It is known that there are laboratories that can do this...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Now...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …so Germans who have money can easily solve this mystery.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, I had many more questions to ask you...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And I had a lot more to say.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> I appreciate your availability, surely this will be in the next hours in the international media, right? In Germany, in England, which van is this after all...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> The one they presented.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Yes, right, right, right, we have no… no, there is no photograph from the German authorities with… an indication of the license plate, which could be… help to understand better…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> That may have been a technique. It's the same one.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Yes, but are you sure it's the same one?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Oh, it's the same one!</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> This is the same one that was shown, but it is not the same because it was like that and now it is in another way. Gonçalo Amaral, thank you very much, for, for… for the contribution you ended up giving here. In the face of this case that continues to impassion and divide the opinions of many people until it is finally closed, if ever that will be possible. Do you believe it will be possible?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> There is a colleague of mine with whom I had lunch recently who says yes, and I believe him, that… that a lot is still going to happen. So let's wait...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Thank you very much, we will really have to stop here...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> It may take another 13 years and then I don't know if I'm here anymore...</span></i></div>
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>Anyway, yes, it would be very, very prolonged. Thank you very much Gonçalo Amaral once again</i>.</span><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>José Alberto Carvalho:</b> Deixe-me fazer esta pergunta Gonçalo Amaral, pode ter sido Christian Brueckner o autor do… do que seja o que for o que aconteceu à Madeleine McCann ou não?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Gonçalo Amaral: </b>Para responder a essa pergunta, primeiro é preciso demonstrar que existiu um rapto. E aquilo que eu posso demonstrar é que todos aquelas pessoas que ali estiveram mentiram , nunca existiu nenhum esquema de… de vigilância dos filhos que estavam em casa, nos apartamentos a dormir… deslocaram-se aos apartamentos para utilizar o WC, isso está escrito em declarações que prestaram, diziam à recepcionista que iam ao apartamento ver os filhos, não diziam que iam à casa de banho porque a casa de banho junto à piscina não tinha grandes condições para lá irem, simularam uma situação de entrada de rapto com a janela , com a abertura daquilo tudo… dizendo que a janela estava aberta, estava fechada, uma grande confusão…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Primeiro estava fechada, depois ficou aberta…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Onde, onde só há uma impressão digital…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm, hmmm</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …que é da mãe da criança… não há sinais de arrombamento naquele apartamento, portanto, só há 2 formas de ali entrar, uma com uma chave falsa, que foi investigada e não chegámos a conclusões que dissessem que poderia ter sido utilizada, portanto em princípio não o foi e a outra entrada pela portada por onde todos entravam, sozinhos. Levaram-nos… portanto, mentiram, houve muitas mentiras, levaram a PJ a… a perder muito tempo e encaminhar-se por um caminho que… por exemplo, levaram-nos a Robert Murat. Há uma testemunha que nos diz… indica o caminho do homem que levava a criança ao colo para a vivenda de Robert Murat. E, apesar desse, desse… digamos erro, foi de graças ao Robert Murat, de graças à publicidade em torno de Robert Murat, que nós conseguimos ter o tal testemunho dos irlandeses. Que é um dos irlandeses que diz, que vê, que avista aquele homem que diz que, é o pai deles, que afirma, que é o pai a não sei quantos por cento que é o pai da miúda e que diz este não é…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gerry McCann transportava a criança…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …não é Robert Murat, que esse conheço eu. Portanto, isto está tudo no processo. E está no processo, e repare…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas também está no processo…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Repare só numa coisa, repare numa coisa…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral deixe-me, deixe-me tentar saber…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Este, este, estas pessoas, estas pessoas, isto é importante que se diga, estas pessoas que fizeram o que fizeram, que é o… durante aquela semana abandonaram os filhos… onde até, neste caso concreto, neste apartamento de onde desapareceu Madeleine, a própria Madeleine esteve, no dia anterior, ou dois antes, cerca das… mais das 10 da noite a chorar mais de, durante mais de uma hora, a gritar pelos pais e ninguém lá foi, portanto não se… não se sabe porque razão não foram, mas o facto é que não estava a funcionar o sistema de vigilância, digamos assim, ou já não era necessário àquela hora, concordo, pode ter sido por qualquer razão que desconhecemos, mas o facto é que ela esteve e esteve ali abandonada. E estas pessoas que abandonaram os filhos, que mentiram à polícia e continuam a mentir porque nunca contaram a verdade do que efectivamente se passou, e que era necessária realizar uma reconstituição em Portugal, ainda hoje se mantém para afastar ou não afastar o que ali se passou, e de facto definir tempos, porque é necessário…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Porque é que essa reconstituição nunca foi feita?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Não foi feita porque houve muita pressão mediática. Nós não conseguíamos fazer ali a reconstituição…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Em sossego?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Não só em sossego, em termos práticos. Eu, eu recordo-lhe só uma… é… mas voltando um pouco atrás em termos da reconstituição, estas pessoas saíram de Portugal. Saíram de Portugal, saíram todos e nunca vieram para cá… os… o casal…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas tiveram cá durante bastante tempo, naqueles dias a seguir à… à…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Exactamente, mas os amigos já tinham saído, e se fossem portugueses, não tenha dúvida, estavam cá em Portugal, seguramente que a reconstituição teria sido feita em qualquer altura. Aqui os amigos recusaram recusaram-se mais tarde a vir fazer… realizar a reconstituição…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas foram intimados a isso, foram notificados para isso?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Estavam apenas como testemunhas.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm, hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E recusaram-se a vir. E se reparar, se reparar, ao longo destes anos os jornais britânicos, e todos os outros jornais do mundo, são tão… mas principalmente os britânicos estão interessados no caso e nunca, mas nunca foram tentar entrevistar algumas daquelas pessoas que ali estavam, apenas e só o casal, portanto os outros todos que planearam aquele esquema em termos de entregar 2 documentos controversos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mesmo no documentário de 8 episódios que…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …e não sei quantos mais…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …está disponível na Netflix essas pessoas não aparecem, é verdade…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E não apareceram.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> É verdade.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E portanto, só para lhe recordar isto, nós, a partir daquele ponto em que foi feito… efectuado esse avistamento, digamos assim, esse testemunho…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Esse testemunho que é relativo àquela noite por volta das 10 da noite</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …em princípio a Madeleine vai ao colo (imperceptível), nós tentámos, tentámos a determinada hora… fugindo dos jornalistas, bater toda aquela zona até em termos de residências, a partir dali até ao mar. E quando já estávamos quase a meio do caminho, algum de nós é descoberto, é nós tivemos de abandonar a zona. Foi uma diligência que nunca conseguimos acabar, por causa do… da confusão que, que ali se armou…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> A quantidade de jornalistas que havia ali, sim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Isto foi…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Deixe-me…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …o que se passou.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Muito bem. Gonçalo Amaral, na altura, percebe-se agora, e eu queria perguntar-lhe isto: Christian Brueckner foi uma das pessoas que chegou a ser identificada como das pessoas de interesse para a investigação na altura, tanto quanto foi noticiada haviam 6… chegou a haver 600 pessoas ou ao longo do tempo acumularam-se 600 pessoas que podiam ser de interesse para a investigação…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Foram realizadas muitas dilig</span><span style="color: blue;">ências no âmbito do processo, foram feitos levantamentos.<span style="color: blue;"><span lang="PT" style="font-family: "times" , serif; font-size: 10pt;">..</span></span></span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Christian Brueckner foi uma dessas 600 pessoas ou não?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Só relendo todo o processo encontrando de…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Não tem memória disso?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Já me disseram que sim, que tinham lá ido bater à porta, colegas que são reformados como eu e que disseram que a pessoa não estava em casa. Mas foram às centenas…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas, ou seja, mas deve ter sido…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Foram às cen</span><span style="color: blue;">tenas, e não só esse tipo de tipologias, mas sobretudo de pedófilos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas repare uma coisa Gonçalo Amaral, a, a questão que está aqui… mas é que a questão que está aqui em causa é…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Pode ter sido por furto, nós também andámos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sabemos que ele cumpriu uma pena…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …a fazer um levantamento de pessoas de furto, nomeadamente de furtos em apartamentos, e ao que parece este senhor não estava na listagem de furtos de apartamentos terá roubado…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Combustível…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sim, combustível.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sim, mas agora aquilo que se sabe sobre… aparentemente se sabe sobre este homem é verdadeiramente preocupante, sobre… sobre vários pontos de vista…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> É como eu lhe digo, um suspeito quase perfeito…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas, mas… mas sabe-se que ele tem um longo cadastro de crimes sexuais…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Hmmm, hmmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …que ao contrário daquilo que parecem ser outros criminosos deste, desta tipologia, que não têm uma especial fixação numa determinada idade, há, há comportamentos aparentemente aleatórios, aliás de resto ele está condenado pela violação duma turista americana…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Aquilo que eu ouvi…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …de 75 anos na, na… ocorrida a violação…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …na Praia da Luz…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sim, sim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sabes também… enfim, eu gostava de o… ou seja, o que eu gostava de perceber é se ele foi investigado e se… porque é que desapareceu o interesse sobre ele, ou se nunca foi encarado seriamente, com a informação que havia na altura?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sabe… a, a informação que havia relativamente aos pedófilos era apenas e só que eram pedófilos e pessoas que estavam próximas de, do aldeamento e como o próprio José Alberto disse são às centenas e não é possível estar a investigar pormenorizadamente cada um. Avançar mais, eu recordo-me que, por exemplo, nós chegámos até Albufeira… Albufeira e Tavira e por aí fora, e que as investigações não se conseguem fazer assim dessa forma…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, mas espere aí, esta violação desta turista americana…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …e repare, e repare, se…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …foi dois anos antes do desaparecimento de Madeleine…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …e se… diga?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> A violação da turista americana, de 72 anos, eu disse de 75…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Quando é que foi comunicada em termos à PJ?</span></i><span style="color: purple;"><span style="color: purple;"><i><span style="color: blue;"><b> </b></span></i></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Quando é que foi?<span style="color: purple;"><span style="color: purple;"><span style="color: purple;"><span style="color: blue;"><b> </b></span></span></span></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Não sei… (silêncio)</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Não... não sei…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Eu não tinha conhecimento dela na altura.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Não houve… não, a se… a senhora fez uma queixa…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Nós, por exemplo eu posso-lhe dizer…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …a senhora fez uma queixa…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Aonde?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Quando?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> (…)</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> É, em termos da PJ, em termos de saber… e se estamos à procura dum pedófilo…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Porque este homem…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …ou estamos à procura dum, dum, dum violador duma pessoa adulta?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Não, não, não… com certeza…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Eu recordo…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …mas é que ocorreu dois, dois anos antes e ele, ele está agora detido na prisão alemã, exactamente a cumprir pena, por este crime… é este o crime que o conduziu neste momento à, à prisão. E foi depois possível…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E foi identificado muito mais tarde…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Foi identificado em 2018…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Ora… aí está, portanto em 2007 não estava identificado.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …com base em 2 evidências… com base em duas evidências essenciais….</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Em 2007 não estava identificado.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …mas há um cabelo que foi encontrado na cama da vítima…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …vítima da violação que foi preservado e que permitiu agora actualizar e fazer o match, fazer a…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sim. Mas isso é outra investigação, não a investigação do…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Com certeza.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …do caso Maddie, é outra investigação...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas acontece que este homem, que se manteve no Algarve e naquela região durante algum tempo, é a assim que se exp(lica)… é assim que, que eu procuro entender, as fotografias que foram divulgadas pela polícia alemã sobre as casas, os locais, os veículos, etc… e eu gostava também de o ouvir sobre isso, sobre, sobre estas… este exercício da polícia alemã que é apelar à memória de alguém com alguns detalhes muito… não sei se são subtis, não… mas, enfim, com alguns detalhes e, e… as fotografias dizem-lhe alguma coisa, por exemplo, seja das casas, seja dos veículos que a polícia alemã revelou?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Eu penso que o apelo serve o que serve, porque por exemplo a autocaravana foi retirada, foi levada de Portugal para a Alemanha para ser examinada, portanto a partir dali…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Uma autocaravana VW Westfalia, branca e amarela…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …e o que era importante era que, tentar perceber porque é que… aquelas imagens que são passadas e que foram passadas…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Estas?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …foram alteradas.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Estas? Estas são as imagens que eu recolhi ainda ontem, do site da polícia alemã…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Eu posso-lhe mostrar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> … da BKA.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Eu posso-lhe mostrar a… uma fotografia, que é a fotografia da viatura com que esse suspeito andava, e andaria em 2007, segundo a própria polícia alemã, e que é totalmente diferente daquilo que nos têm mostrado…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> É esse o veículo?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> É este o veículo. E se reparar na fotografia que está aí a passar na imagem…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas o veículo não é igual!</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> É igual, é.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> É?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Se reparar na fotografia, se tiver uma outra fotografia da…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Temos.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …traseira da viatura…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Penso que sim… eu…eu…estive a reunir… é esta, esta?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Se reparar, pode ver que ali naquela imagem há ali dois pormenores, primeiro foi tapado a… nota-se que falta ali uma cor, está ali um preto no meio e tem um novo logótipo ao lado direito. Depois tem a chapa de matrícula…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Vou deixar ampliar um bocadinho a imagem…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …a chapa de matrícula, tapada, e tem a letra “D”, a matrícula é portuguesa.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Pois o carro era…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> O carro é de 82 e foi registado em Portugal em 2004. Se quiser pode ficar com a fotografia.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Portanto, o que está a dizer é que este…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Relativamente à mesma fot… à mesma viatura…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Esta fotografia é de quando, tem ideia?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Essa fotografia? Essa fotografia é do ano passado.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Esta é do ano passado?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> É do ano passado, portanto pretende-se é saber que, e tem aqui outra fotografia...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Ou seja, ou seja… mas o ano passado aquela carrinha que nós estávamos a ver nas imagens já estava na Alemanha, ou não?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Terá saído de Portugal no ano passado para a Alemanha.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> E esta fotografia foi tirada em Portugal ou na Alemanha?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Em Portugal.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Esta é outra fotografia da mesma viatura.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Com licença...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Agora o que se pergunta, o que se pergunta, o quê?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Ou seja, o que é que está a dizer com isto?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> O que é que eu estou a dizer? É evidente.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> É que a, a carrinha que foi mostrada na…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ...a, a, a foto da autocaravana está completamente diferente.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Não, esta auto… não é a mesma autocaravana.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Essa é mesma autocaravana.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Essa é mesma autocaravana, e foi a autocaravana que foi levada daqui para a Alemanha, para ser examinada onde… e servia cá como depósito de figos e alfarroba.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmm, hmm.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E, apareceu… aparece então essa imagem sem essa personalização, digamos assim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Destes bonecos?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sim, sem esses bonecos. E o que se pergunta é isto, será que essa viatura passaria despercebida na Praia da Luz, noutra localidade qualquer ou não? Seguramente que não. E o que se pergunta ainda é, há várias… o que se pergunta é, será que a… as autoridades alemãs chegaram à conclusão que na altura de 2007 a viatura não estava assim mas estava ainda pintada de branco e por aí fora? Quem lhes disse isso?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Será que as autoridades alemãs, ou alemãs ou inglesas, não sei quem é que fez isto, seguramente não foi em Portugal, porque quem divulgou as fotografias não foram os portugueses, e aliás não têm divulgado nada relativamente ao processo, será que quem divulgou isso está a tentar checkar informação, digamos assim? Se aparece alguém a telefonar, olha eu vi a viatura no sítio tal e… esqueça que não viu nada porque a viatura era doutra forma.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, deixa-me perguntar-lhe a si, é possível saber mais…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Portanto, há aqui várias versões…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …informações sobre estas fotografias, onde é que elas foram tiradas?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Essas fotografias foram tiradas no Algarve.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><span style="color: blue;"><b>JAC:</b> No Alg.. certo, num sítio…</span></span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sabe que eu conheço muitas pessoas que, que…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …conhecem a zona do Algoz…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …trabalhou no Algarve durante muitos anos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …pessoas que se dedicam à apanha da laranja e outras coisas mais… portanto, são fotografias.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Agora, outra questão, ainda relativamente ao… ao fim, não queria estar a dominar, digamos, aqui a entrevista… há aqui uma coisa diferente neste, nesta situação toda de… do tal suspeito quase perfeito como eu lhe chamo, ao bode expiatório como se queira dizer… há aqui um dado novo, um dado que ainda não chegaram lá em termos de informação, portanto, está-se muito… largou-se a bomba, disse-se que o suspeito é parecido com um… que não é, a imagens que estão são com, com 43 anos, portanto se reparar nas minhas imagens de 2013, eu estou completamente diferente, as pessoas mudam… mas o dado novo, o dado novo, o que há, é que alguém…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Ou seja, em vez de divul… esta fotografia que está a ser divulgada é dele actual e deveria ser uma de há 13 anos, é o que está a dizer?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Pois… isso (risos) era interessante. E… há aqui um dado novo. O dado novo é que as autoridades alemãs estão a pedir… estão… parece que estão a querer reexaminar todos, todos os vestígios hepáticos, biológicos… hemáticos e biológicos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sangue.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …que tenham sido encontrados. Aonde? Esperamos nós… Aonde? Dentro do apartamento, na viatura…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Alugada…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …alugada pelo casal e também na rua. Só há 3 sítios onde foram encontrados vestígios: dentro do apartamento, na rua, onde há sangue, onde foram recolhidos esses vestígios, e dentro da viatura do casal alugada não sei quantos dias depois, já não me recordo. E este é que é o dado novo. E esta é que é a grande questão: será que as autoridades alemãs pensam resolver o caso, quando… eu até pensei que fosse uma tradução errada quando um… um dirigente da polícia alemã diz que a criança pode ter sido alvejada dentro do apartamento… Isto quer dizer o quê? Que houve sangue. E de facto foi… foram os cães, os tais cães… alguém dizia aí… um advogado ligado ao casal dizia que a nossa investigação, aquilo que estava no meu livro que no fundo é a nossa investigação naqueles 4 meses, não foram 13 anos, nem 13 meses, foram 4 meses… que a nossa investigação tinha sido uma fantasia, uma fábula… mas sabe que foram utilizados cães, cães mandados pelos ingleses e sugeridos pelos ingleses, porque eles é que sugeriam uma morte…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Uma morte, pior, nós falamos e…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JAC:</b> Eu lembro-me dessas imagens, os cães identificaram o cheiro de sangue…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> … sempre falámos em acidente e os ingleses falam em homicídio. Não somos nós. São eles que falam em homicídio. Nós falamos em acidente. Isto está documentado. E, esse tal alvejamento produz sangue. Nós… no exame que foi realizado no local não foi encontrado nenhum vestígio de nenhum alvejamento, nem a criança que vai ao colo tem sinais de ter sido alvejada, o que tem é que vai a dormir profundamente, isto dizem as pessoas que por ali passaram.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Parecia ir a dormir profundamente.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Parece que ía a dormir profundamente. E portanto isto são os dados, é que os cães que fizeram estas marcações e estas marcações foram feitas pelos cães, os vestígios que foram recolhidos com a ajuda desses cães, da tal fábula, são os tais que a polícia alemã quer analisar. Quando se fala da saliva…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, deixe-me só tentar, deixe-me só tentar perceber uma coisa…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Só, só para acabar esta questão dos vestígios., quando se fala da saliva na cama da, da Maddie, é mentira, que não estava na cama da Maddie, é na cama junto à janela, e a saliva o que é, é uma mistura de saliva de bebé com leite materno… e que foram identificadas, a mãe e que foram identificadas as pessoas que estiveram naquele apartamento.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Antes dos McCann?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Antes dos McCann. E, e portanto há que esperar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, só me resta 1 minuto…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …para perceber no que isto vai dar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …só temos aqui 1 minuto, eu gostava, eu gostava muito de prolongar esta conversa mas infelizmente não vai ser possível. Estamos aqui… qual é que poderá ser o interesse da polícia alemã em deixar-se seduzir, na sua opinião pelo aquilo que acabou de expor, perante um, um… uma pista que não leva a lado nenhum na sua opinião?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Leva. Leva as autoridades alemãs terem competência para investigar o caso.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> E têm?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Se tiverem um suspeito alemão, há quem diga que sim, há quem diga que não, o processo está cá…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Isso pode ser bom ou mau para a descoberta da verdade material?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Eu penso que a polícia… as autoridades portuguesas e as polícias portuguesas podem fazer cá, os nossos laboratórios, aquilo que os alemães querem fazer lá. Não havia necessidade de deixar ir para a Alemanha outra vez…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Já foi.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Já foi, já foi no ano passado, outra vez algo para ser examinado, poderia ter sido cá examinado. Já tinha acontecido isso, que é um erro quando foi…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Deixe-me repetir esta pergunta porque parece que pode ser interessante a sua resposta, o facto de ser a polícia alemã a, a conduzir a investigação agora, a partir disto, deste pretexto que é o que depreendo das suas palavras…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> A polícia alemã conduz a investigação lá na Alemanha…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas isso pode ser bom?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …porque aqui quem conduz a investigação é a PJ.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> A pergunta é, isso pode ser bom e, e relevante, ou não para a descoberta de provas que possam explicar o que é que aconteceu naquele dia? Em mais (imperceptível)…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Hoje em dia há novas técnicas para, para analisar e, e… para… e até reanalisar aquilo que foi examinado. Se existir remanescente suficiente para, é possível chegar a outras conclusões. Eu recordo que na viatura alugada pelo casal há cabelos que foram devolvidos que dizem que pela coloração é da menina desaparecida, mas como não tem raiz, não conseguem aprofu… apurar o ADN. Sabe-se que há laboratórios que conseguem fazer isso…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Agora…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …portanto os alemães que têm dinheiro podem facilmente resolver esse mistério.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Gonçalo Amaral, tinha muito mais perguntas para lhe fazer…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E eu muito mais coisas para dizer.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Agradeço a sua disponibilidade, seguramente que isto vai estar nas próximas horas nos media internacionais, não é? Na Alemanha, na Inglaterra, sobre que carrinha é esta afinal…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Aquela que apresentaram.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sim, certo, certo, certo, não temos nenhuma… não, não há nenhuma fotografia das autoridades alemãs com as… um indício da chapa da matrícula, que poderia ser… ajudar a perceber melhor…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Isso pode ter sido uma técnica. É a mesma.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sim, mas tem a certeza que é a mesma?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Ai, é a mesma!</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Esta é a mesma que foi mostrada , só que não é a mesma porque ela estava assim e agora está doutra maneira. Gonçalo Amaral, muito obrigado, pela, pela… pelo contributo que acabou por, por, por dar aqui. Perante este caso que continua a apaixonar e dividir opiniões de muita gente até que se consiga finalmente encerrar, se é que alguma vez isso vai ser possível. Acredita que vai ser possível?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Há um colega meu com quem almocei há pouco tempo que diz que sim, e eu acredito nele, portanto que… que muita coisa ainda vai acontecer. Portanto vamos esperar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Muito obrigado, vamos ter de ficar mesmo por aqui…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Pode é demorar mais 13 anos e aí já não sei se cá ando…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC: </b>Enfim sim, seria muito, muito prolongado mesmo. Muito obrigado Gonçalo Amaral uma vez mais.</span></i></div>
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>José Alberto Carvalho:</b> I now have in the “Jornal das 8”, the former inspector of the PJ, Gonçalo Amaral, the man who led the initial investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. He has not yet commented on the line of investigation launched in recent weeks by the German police. Very good evening, Gonçalo Amaral...</span></i><br />
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</b><i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Gonçalo Amaral:</b> Good evening.</span></i><br />
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<a name='more'></a><i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …thank you for being here, there are…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> I thank you for the opportunity to come here.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> There is… let me to start before, before anything else to try and understand this: more than… about a year ago, just over a year ago, in… an itself unusual interview with an Australian podcast of a television station, Gonçalo Amaral, hmm, predicted, anticipated that soon it would likely be presented, or incriminated a German paedophile serving a sentence in Germany, who was in prison and who pointed as the main suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Hmmm, saying, adding that this, in your opinion, he was a scapegoat. My first question is: when you said this a year ago, were you referring to Christian Brueckner, this suspect that we now all know has this name?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> When I said this a year ago, I was referring to what was going to happen now. It doesn't matter who the paedophile is ... what we've been watching over the years is that paedophiles are appearing. It is necessary to have a character who, from his profile, the proximity that fits him to take the blame, so to speak, and in fact this was going to happen, not least because of the movement that happened in that area, a vehicle that had already been German, the Germans involved, so this time he was going to be a German suspect.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> So you didn't know exactly that it was Christian Brueckner?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Ah, those are questions (laughs) that no, it is not worth it if it is A, B or C so, if this one doesn't work, another one will appear ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> This one has several characteristics due to what we have been hearing for the past few weeks and that I would like to hear you…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Yes, they are characteristics that this one is almost ... is almost a perfect suspect ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm, hmmm</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> He only needs one thing to be perfect, right? It's being dead. And I can explain this to you later, but this has been happening over the years. It gets a little tiresome because the theory of abduction is the one with the least, shall we say, the least existing evidence, that will exist, there is one clue on that someone saw the child on the arms of a man who was coming down from… a certain street, who are an Irish family who is most credible testimony of… that the girl was… on that night she was on his arms…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Transported...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Transported...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Because there is a...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b>… around 10 pm and what these people say is what the whole world knows, that who… was later, who could… came to that conclusion that the person who was transporting that child was the person who was coming down from, from a certain plane, on a certain date with a son in his arms in England, who was the father of the girl… Madeleine. So, they didn't say he was similar, they said 80 or almost 90% it was Maddie's father. By the way of walking, by the structure, and so on ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Your, your conviction regarding this case, of course, I think, I can call it that ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> They are not convictions... note, they are not conviction, that would mean 2 or 3 ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Is it a certainty?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> No, they are not certainties. I just wanted to say 2 or 3 things ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Just to position our viewers: Gonçalo Amaral published the book in which he explains that…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Exactly.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b>… called “The truth of the lie”, that was also the subject of an intense legal dispute with the McCann family, in which…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Always accompanied by visits from the Scotland Yard to make diligences in Portugal, because the process was ongoing. So every time there was a trial hearing, they were here ... to do diligences in Portugal.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But just to focus some spectators, especially the younger ones eventually, because it has been a long time, 13 years have passed since Maddie's disappearance, hum, Gonçalo Amaral was the chief, chief inspector of the delegation… of the directorate of Portimão...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Coordinator of the investigation ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b>… and coordinator of this investigation, the book you published defends the theory that, he defends the theory that the child vict…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> The book I published does not support a theory. That is a mistake that has been going around, not being a theory. The book that I published, I published for the reasons that I have explained over the years ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> I know.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …so there is no need to repeat them…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But why don't you call it a theory? It's that it’s not proven...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sorry, it’s not a theory, it’s… it’s a task, it’s the report, it’s… call it what you want, or report or a state of play on work done during the first few months of the investigation, where we came to certain conclusions. Conclusions that at that stage are always provisional. The terminal investigation does not end… when we go in a certain direction in terms of the investigation</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> In fact, this investigation...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> The investigation needs…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …the investigation is not over, nor has it been completed!</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And there is no way that they will almost end it when they are not… are not taken certain diligences…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> What I just wanted to…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> ... namely, while all those parents who were there, that they all abandoned their children ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> From the McCann group...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Everyone, all of them for a week they abandoned ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> There were 8 families if I wasn’t deceived...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> 6… well… 6 adults, so 3 or 4 per family… 1, 2, 3… 6 in Tapas, another one…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> 7.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> 7, so what I'm telling you is that they all left their children alone, the oldest was Madeleine McCann. And they all left their children to abandonment, and not in safety as they say. Because, you know, if they were in safety Madeleine wouldn’t have disappeared… And contrary to what is claimed and that was…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> But Gonçalo Amaral let me just...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Let me just finish, finish…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Let me just reposition this, because this is the theory of... theory, no ...it’s, it’s, it’s to point our attention to the possible carelessness or neglect of the parents and of that group of family members who were there ... but we have a problem and that is the disappearance of a child. There is a child who has disappeared, in fact and that is the problem that brings us here, is it not?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> And, and I can ask you, and ask who is watching us if ... if a child disappeared, their child, in these circumstances, one wishes not...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Yes ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Would you think, in the first minute, that your son or daughter had been abducted by a paedophile network, for paedophile reasons? Why paedophiles? A child of this age, 3 years old, almost 4, if abducted by a paedophile does not appear alive. Children who have been kidnapped by paedophiles ... namely female, and have appeared alive, are closer to puberty, 9 years, 10 years and so on. We have the case of the Austrian citizen and other cases out there, so .. and it is ... they are people who know this. Why is it stated immediately, if he [sic] disappeared? She could even have left on her own foot, gone alone, there may be an abduction for revenge, for certain situations, a request for ransom, whatever ... but why on the first day of ...? Especially because Portugal, as the child's father said. Portugal was a country with a lot of paedophilia, it even had a case here like the Casa Pia case.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> That was said over the phone, heard by other people who were heard in the process.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Very well, Gonçalo Amaral, I propose that we move forward...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Ok.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>JAC:</b> I, I would like to just… because we are of the understanding that it is necessary to have… due to the time that has passed on this process, that, although very briefly, we make a small framework of the case that has been dragging for 13 years as we know, and which constitutes, I can say, the most impactful criminal mystery in the history of Portugal because it is not closed and, moreover, as shown, in a renewed international interest that over the past few weeks has manifested itself in the face of developments by the German police and authorities.</span></i><br />
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<u><b>The original</b></u>:<br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>José Alberto Carvalho: </b>Tenho agora no Jornal das 8, o antigo inspector da PJ, Gonçalo Amaral, o homem que liderou a investigação inicial ao desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann. Ainda não se pronunciou sobre a linha de investigação lançada nas últimas semanas pela polícia alemã. Muito boa noite, Gonçalo Amaral…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Gonçalo Amaral:</b> Boa noite.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …obrigado por estar aqui, há…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Eu é que agradeço a oportunidade de vir aqui.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Há… deixe-me começar antes de, de, de mais qualquer outra coisa de tentar perceber isto: há mais de… há sensivelmente um ano, há pouco mais de um ano, numa… ela própria invulgar entrevista a um podcast australiano de uma estação de televisão, o Gonçalo Amaral, hmm, previu, antecipou que em breve seria muito provávelmente apresentado, ou incriminado um pedófilo alemão a cumprir pena na Alemanha, que estava preso e que seria apontado como o principal suspeito do desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann. Hmmm, dizendo, acrescentando que isso, na sua opinião, era um bode expiatório. A minha primeira pergunta é: isto quando disse há um ano, estava a referir-se a Christian Brueckner, este suspeito que agora todos sabemos tem este nome?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Isto quando eu disse há um ano, estava-me a referir ao que ía acontecer agora. Pouco importa quem é o pedófilo… o que temos vindo a a assistir ao longo dos anos é que vão aparecendo pedófilos. É necessário uma figura que, pelo perfil, pela proximidade que lhe encaixe para levar coma as culpas, digamos assim, e de facto isto ia acontecer, até porque a movimentação que aconteceu naquela zona, uma viatura que já tinha sido alemã, os alemães envolvidos, portanto desta vez iria ser um suspeito alemão.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Portanto não sabia exactamente que era Christian Brueckner?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Ah, isso são questões (ri-se) que não, não vale a pena se é o A, B ou C portanto, se este não der há-de aparecer outro…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Este tem várias características pelo aquilo que nós temos vindo a ouvir na últimas semanas e que eu gostava de o ouvir…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Sim são características que este é quase… é um suspeito quase perfeito…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm, hmmm</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Só lhe falta uma coisa para ser perfeito, não é? É estar morto. E isso posso-lhe explicar mais à frente, mas isto tem vindo a acontecer ao longo dos anos. Cansa um pouco porque a teoria do rapto é aquela que menos, digamos, menos indícios existe, existirá, existe um indício que alguém viu a criança ao colo dum homem que ia a descer de…determinada rua, que são uma família irlandesa que é o testemunho mais credível de… que aquela menina foi… naquela noite ia ao colo…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Transportada…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Transportada…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Porque há um…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …cerca das 10 da noite e, o que essas pessoas dizem é aquilo que o mundo inteiro sabe, que quem… foi mais tarde, que conse… chegaram a essa conclusão que quem transportava aquela criança era a pessoa que estava a descer de, de determinado avião, de determinada data com um filho ao colo em Inglaterra, que era o pai da mesma… da Madeleine. Portanto, não o disseram que era parecido , disseram que 80 ou quase 90%, era o pai de Maddie. Pela forma de andar, pela estrutura, e por aí fora…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> A sua, a sua convicção em relação a esta caso, claro, julgo, posso chamar-lhe assim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Não são convicções… repare, não são convicções, isso iria dizer 2 ou 3…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> É uma certeza?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Não, não são certezas. Só queria dizer 2 ou 3 coisas…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Só para posicionar os nossos espectadores: Gonçalo Amaral publicou aliás o livro em que explica isso mesmo…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Exacto.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …chamado “A verdade da mentira”, foi objecto também duma intensa disputa judicial com a família McCann, em que…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Acompanhada sempre de visitas da Scotland Yard para fazer diligências em Portugal, porque estava o processo a decorrer. Portanto cada vez que havia audiência de julgamento, cá estavam… para fazer diligências em Portugal.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas só para centrar alguns espectadores, sobretudo os mais jovens eventualmente, porque já se passou muito tempo, passaram-se 13 anos desde o desaparecimento da Maddie, hum, Gonçalo Amaral era o chefe, inspetor-chefe da delegação… da directoria de Portimão…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Coordenador da investigação…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …e coordenador desta investigação, o livro que publicou defende a teoria de que, defende a teoria de que a criança víti…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> O livro que publiquei não defende uma teoria. Esse é um erro que tem andado por aí, não sendo uma teoria. O livro que eu publiquei, publiquei pelas razões que já expliquei ao longo dos anos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Eu sei.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …portanto não é preciso voltar a repeti-las…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas porque é que não lhe chama uma teoria? É que não está provado…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Desculpe, não é uma teoria, são… é um trabalho, é o relato, é… chame-lhe o que quiser, ou relatório ou um ponto da situação dum trabalho efectuado ao longo dos primeiros meses da investigação, em que chegámos a determinadas conclusões. Conclusões essas que naquela fase são sempre provisórias. A investigação terminal não termina… quando nós encaminhamos para determinado lado em termos da investigação</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Aliás essa investigação…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> A investigação necessita…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> …a investigação não terminou, nem foi concluída!</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E não há forma de quase a terminarem quando não serem… não forem realizadas determinadas diligências…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> O que eu só queria…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> …nomeadamente, enquanto todos aqueles pais que ali estavam, que todos eles abandonaram os filhos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Do grupo dos McCann…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Todos, todos eles durante uma semana abandonaram…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Eram 8 famílias se não me enganaram…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> 6… ora… 6 adultos, portanto 3 ou 4 por família… 1, 2, 3… 6 no Tapas, mais um outro…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> 7.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> 7, portanto, estou-lhe a dizer é que todos eles deixaram os filhos sozinhos, a mais velha era a Madeleine McCann. E todos eles deixaram os filhos ao abandono, e não em segurança como se diz. Porque sabe se estivessem em segurança Madeleine não tinha desaperecido… E ao contrário do que se afirma e isso foi…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Mas Gonçalo Amaral deixe-me só…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Deixe-me só terminar, terminar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Deixe-me só reposicionar isso, porque essa é a teoria do… teoria, não… é, é, é apontar a nossa atenção para o eventual descuido ou negligência dos pais e de, daquele grupo de familiares que estava ali… mas nós temos um problema que é o desaparecimento duma criança. Há uma criança que desapareceu, de facto e esse é o problema que nos traz aqui, não é?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> E, e posso-lhe é questionar, e questionar quem nos está a ver se… se lhes desaparecesse uma criança, um filho, nestas circunstâncias, longe vá o agoiro…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Sim…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Se pensaria logo, num primeiro minuto que seu filho ou filha tinha sido raptada por uma rede de pedofilia, por motivos pedófilos? Porquê pedófilos? Uma criança desta idade, com 3 anos de idade, quase 4, se for raptada por um pedófilo não aparece viva. As crianças que têm sido raptadas por pedófilos… nomeadamente do sexo feminino, e têm aparecido vivas, estão mais próximas da puberdade, 9 anos, 10 anos e por aí acima. Temos o caso da cidadã austríaca e outros casos por ai fora, portanto… e é… são pessoas que sabem isto. Porque é que se afirma logo, se ele desapareceu? Até podia ter saído a pé, ido sózinha, pode haver um rapto por vingança, por determinadas situações, um pedido de resgate, seja o que for… mas porquê logo no primeiro dia de…? Até porque Portugal, como segundo dizia o pai da criança. Portugal era um país com muita pedofilia, até tinha tido cá um caso como o caso Casa Pia.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Hmmm, hmmm</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Isto dito lá ao telefone, ouvido por outras pessoas ouvidas no processo.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>JAC:</b> Muito bem, Gonçalo Amaral, proponho que vamos em frente…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>GA:</b> Ok.</span></i><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Eu, eu gostava só de… porque entendemos que isso é necessário em ter… ao tempo que já passou sobre este processo, que, ainda que de forma muito breve façamos um pequeno enquadramento do caso que se arrasta há 13 anos como sabemos, e que constitui, posso dizê-lo, o mistério criminal mais impactante da história de Portugal porque não está encerrado e, de resto como se prova, num renovado interesse internacional que ao longo das últimas semanas se manifestou perante os desenvolvimentos da polícia e das autoridades alemãs.</i></span><br />
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This was followed by a news report, the "small framework" mentioned by JAC above. We may or may not transcribe it, as we consider it interesting but not relevant.<br />
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We will transcribe Part II, which followed this news report, as soon as we can but we call to the attention of our readers that there is something called PL (personal life) which continues and that has our priority. </div>
Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-26130414990210947772020-06-22T12:27:00.003+01:002020-06-22T12:27:21.185+01:00Rogério Alves, Sexta às 9, June 19 2007<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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While we are transcribing the Gonçalo Amaral's appearance on TVI yesterday, we thought it would be important to publish first Rogério Alves' interview with Sandra Felgueiras in the programme "Sexta às 9" last Friday.<br />
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The reason we are doing this is because Amaral refers to it in his interview.<br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>Sandra Felgueiras:</b> With me tonight is Rogério Alves, former lawyer of the McCann couple, still a friend of the couple. We have already talked a lot about this case ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Rogério Alves:</b> It's true.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b>… over the past 13 years, Dr, in view of all the evidence that we have presented tonight, it makes sense, or did it make sense, that there had never been any cross-checking between the, the justice of the different European countries where this man passed and we now got to know that even in Portugal he came to confess to sexual abuses that he had in the past, that he had never been investigated as a single individual, and that he had only been punctually tried for disobedience, for theft and that never had been the realization that he was a sexual predator who was at that time at the crime scene?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Good evening, effectively there is here what appears to be a failure of investigation, I must say Sandra to be completely fair, that it does not seem so much responsibility attributable to the court that judged him for the theft, because he made a vague, undocumented reference and eventually even false. Now it turns out that it would not be false, but it did not arouse much curiosity from the court, because the court will have understood that in order to judge that concrete case it was not necessary to inquire about the criminal background of the person in question...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Nor should a court ask for a record when the individual's behaviour is at stake?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Not in principle, not in principle ... We have to be fair on this subject.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Not even today is it the practice of a (imperceptible) court...?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Today is a little bit different. Let's see, not so much… let's imagine that we have here the biggest criminal in the world, who comes to Portugal for holidays and who suddenly has an altercation outside a disco and is accused or indicted for the offense to simple physical integrity. Well, he will eventually be judged for that matter, maybe even in a summary process, the next day, with complete peace of mind and then we are left to think… my God, we had this man here in our hand and he’s gone…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Isn’t it Interpol to check if someone is wanted...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Now, what, what has changed ...?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …by the authorities?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Ok, it can be in certain cases. That is to say… what seems to me that what has failed here, sincerely, is that since Madeleine’s abduction - it is increasingly clear that it was an abduction, eventually followed by murder, we hope not - but since that fact it’s been looking for an abductor, a sexual predator, taking out the time which has been wasted with fantasies ... with that famous fantasy in Portugal of that thesis that sought to justify the unjustifiable on the grounds ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Exactly. So, in addition to this fantasy, let's say it was a legend that also involved a fable, as I usually say, that even dogs were involved in the noise, the truth is that one should have looked for someone with the characteristics of an abductor and a sex offender who had somehow been in the territory ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> But in 2007 there was no database that would allow us to place the…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> That is the problem...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …a sexual record.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> It's true ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> But look, we look at this now...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> The sexual record was not even regulated in Portugal, the DNA database itself had not been legislated…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> So there was no list of suspects that the PJ could go looking for... let's now see if there are sexual predators in Praia da Luz and he was there ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> It's true, it's true, it's true ... now it's easier...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Whether it was him or not, he was there...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Whether it was him or not, of course. We don't know if it was him or not, what we do know is that there are many vectors, many segments, many indicators, many markers that point in that possible direction. We cannot now create a second story without grounds, no! This one seems to have a basis in the sense that there are several segments that point to the possibility of having been him.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> The German himself would say what he said with this firmness in the interview he gave me, that she is dead and has concrete evidence, that he cannot disclose which ones under the risk of jeopardizing what he has already collected and of Brueckner getting to know as much as the investigation… would he say this if he weren't absolutely sure?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> As far as I know of what the German system is, obviously not. What we do understand...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> So you are also convinced that she is dead?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Ok, but let's see, these are two separate things that must also be analysed differently. Sometimes, the German prosecutor's statements, with all due respect, seem like a kind of electrocardiogram, (imperceptible) up and down in a somewhat unpredictable way. In the first place, there seems to be a contrast very difficult to understand between being sure that the author, or at least being very close to the certainty that the author was that one, having a deep conviction that Madeleine is dead and not having enough to accuse. And this seems to me a difficult thing to compatibilize, that is ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> But that's what he assumes ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> That's what he assumes! But for me it seems difficult to compatibilize…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Doesn't it convince you?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> No, it doesn't convince me, that is, one thing is reality, another thing is the transmission of reality, another thing is the apprehension of reality ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> But do you detect flaws in Portuguese investigation, or is that what you started by saying...?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> The flaws in Portuguese investigation will be known when this process finally comes to an end with a conclusion and we can make that history. Now, there seems to have been, there seems to have been, if it is true that this individual was there, if it is true that this individual at the time would already have been referred to as a sex offender, sex aggressor in Germany, and notice that curiously, Germany was already bound, because Germany was one of the first countries to bind, together with a small group of other countries in a deci… in a treaty that later came to be incorporated in the European norms that today also bind Portugal, to make such a DNA profile database, let's , let's simplify… Today, if it were today, it would be easier to go to the database there, as Dr. Duarte Vieira said earlier, to take samples that we hope to have survived from those first moments of the investigation where things did not go well…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Those survived.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Those survived. If those match with the DNA profile database that exists in Germany in which the author of the crime is included, then we will have here a giant step in the investigation. Now we are again in that hesitation that has always characterized this process: but have the samples gone? It seems that in Germany it is said that they were not, from Portugal it is said that they were, that is, the…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> The usual.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Exactly, the usual.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> ... have you spoken to the McCanns? To finish, we are at the end of our time, how is it that Kate and Gerry McCann have digested this case? Are they more convinced that their daughter eventually is actually dead?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> No. This, because ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Even after the prosecutor repeated that he is convinced of this…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Precisely because it was never communicated to them directly and personally ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> They have never received a letter...?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> No. There was actually a communication made through the English police, which does not result in this content. Now, this is said publicly! The German prosecutor has said more than once ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> But the German prosecutor never sent them a letter saying she is dead.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> No. No. Never did. And therefore, I confess that it also seems to me a little strange, although I have to accept the methodologies of the German prosecutor who has said what believes to be more appropriate, the truth is that there seems to be a certain asymmetry here, as I mentioned earlier, between the conviction of that individual's guilt, which can obviously be concluded from the investigation, the deep conviction that Madeleine will be dead and the lack of sufficient clues to accuse ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Those, the McCanns are not convinced and they feel ...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …concerned about that…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> It is necessary for people to realize that they are two ordinary people who have suffered for 13 years with, not only the abduction of their daughter and the ignorance, anguish and uncertainty of what could have happened. Evidently, it is a shock a prosecutor – who is not just anybody - to state this in such a peremptory manner. Now, what, as everyone else would, I believe, what they want is for the end of the investigation to be reached, to carry out the analysis by confronting the DNA profile, to conclude if there is a DNA profile, yes or no, that is compatible one that exists in Germany and that a conclusion is reached that is not just information a little unsupported.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> A full stop be put. Rogério Alves, thank you so much for being with us tonight.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>Sandra Felgueiras:</b> Comigo esta noite está Rogério Alves, ex-advogado do casal McCann, ainda amigo do casal. Já muito temos falado sobre este caso…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Rogério Alves:</b> É verdade</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …ao longo dos últimos 13 anos, Sr. Dr., perante todas as evidências que apresentamos esta noite, faz sentido, ou fez sentido, que nunca tivesse havido cruzamento de dados entre a, as justiças dos diferentes países europeus por onde este homem passou e ficando nós agora a saber que até em Portugal ele chegou a confessar abusos sexuais que tinha no passado, que ele nunca tivesse sido investigado como um indivíduo só, e que tivesse só pontualmente sendo julgado por desobediência, por furto e que nunca se tivesse percebido que ele era um predador sexual que estava àquela hora no local do crime?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Boa noite, efectivamente há aqui aquilo que parece ser uma falha de investigação, devo dizer Sandra para ser completamente justo, que não parece tanto responsabilidade imputável ao tribunal que o julgou pela matéria do furto, porque ele fez uma referência vaga, não documentada e eventualmente até falsa. Vem agora a ver-se que não seria falsa, mas que não suscitou grande curiosidade do tribunal, porque o tribunal terá entendido que para julgar aquele caso concreto não era necessário indagar sobre os antecedentes criminais da pessoa em causa…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Nem deve um tribunal pedir um cadastro quando está em causa o comportamento do indivíduo?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Em princípio não, em princípio não… Temos de ser justos nessa matéria.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Nem hoje é prática dum tribunal (imperceptível)…?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Hoje é um pouco diferente. Vamos lá ver, não tanto… vamos imaginar que temos aqui o maior criminoso do mundo, que vem passar férias a Portugal e que de repente tem uma altercação à porta duma discoteca e é acusado ou indiciado pela ofensa à integridade física simples. Bom, ele será eventualmente julgado por essa matéria, se calhar até em processo sumário, no dia seguinte, com toda a tranquilidade e depois ficamos a pensar… meu Deus, tivemo aqui este senhor na nossa mão e foi-se embora…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Não será a Interpol a verificar se é alguém procurado…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Ora bem, o que, o que é que mudou…?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …pelas autoridades?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Pronto, poder-se-á ir em certos casos. Quer-se dizer… o que me parece que o que aqui falhou, sinceramente, é que desde o rapto da Madeleine – cada vez é mais claro que foi um rapto, eventualmente seguido de homicídio, esperemos que não – mas desde esse facto que se anda à procura dum raptor, dum predador sexual, tirando o tempo que se andou a perder com fantasias… com aquela fantasia famosa em Portugal daquela tese que procurava justificar o injustificável com fundamentos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> A tese de Gonçalo Amaral.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Exactamente. Portanto, para além dessa fantasia, digamos que era uma lenda que também envolveu uma fábula, como costumo dizer, que até havia cães também envolvidos ao barulho, a verdade é que se deveria ter procurado alguém com características de raptor e de agressor sexual que tivesse de alguma forma estado no território...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Mas em 2007 não havia nenhuma base de dados que nos permitisse colocar o…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …um cadastro sexual</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> É verdade…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Mas repare, nós agora olhamos para isto…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> O cadastro sexual nem sequer estava regulamentado em Portugal, não tinha sido legislada a própria base de dados de perfis ADN…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Portanto, não houve nenhuma lista de suspeitos que a PJ pudesse ir à procura… vamos cá ver se na Praia da Luz há predadores sexuais e ele estava lá…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> É verdade, é verdade, é verdade… agora é mais fácil…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Ter sido ele ou não, ele estava lá..</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Tendo sido ele ou não, evidentemente. Nós não sabemos se foi ele ou não, o que sabemos é que há muitos vectores, muitos segmentos, muitos indicadores, muitos marcadores que apontam nesse possível sentido. Não podemos agora criar uma segunda história também sem fundamento, não! Esta parece ter fundamento no sentido de que há vários segmentos que apontam para a possibilidade de ter sido ele.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> O próprio alemão diria o que disse com esta firmeza na entrevista que me deu, que ela está morta e que tem provas concretas, que não pode divulgar quais sob pena de fazer perigar o que já recolheu e de Brueckner ficar a saber tanto quanto a investigação… diria isto se não tivesse a certeza absoluta?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Tanto quanto eu conheço aquilo que é o sistema alemão, evidentemente que não. O que é que nós percebemos…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Então também está convencido que ela está morta?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Pronto, mas vamos lá ver, são duas coisas separadas e que devem também ser analisadas de forma distinta. Ás vezes, as declarações do procurador alemão, com todo o respeito, parecem uma espécie de eletrocardiograma, (imperceptível) para baixo e para cima duma maneira um pouco imprevisível. Em primeiro lugar, parece haver um contraste muito difícil de entender entre ter a certeza que o autor, ou pelo menos estar muito próximo da certeza que o autor foi aquele, ter a convicção profunda de que a Madeleine está morta e não ter o suficiente para acusar. E isto parece-me uma coisa difícil de compatibilizar, isto é…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Mas é o que ele assume…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> É o que ele assume! Mas para mim parece-me difícil de compatibilizar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Não o convence a si?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Não, não me convence, isto é, uma coisa é a realidade, outra coisa é a transmissão da realidade, outra coisa é a apreensão da realidade…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Mas detecta falhas na investigação portuguesa, ou é isso que começou por dizer…?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> As falhas da investigação portuguesa serão conhecidas quando este processo finalmente chegar ao fim com uma conclusão e nós podemos fazer essa história. Agora, parece ter havido, parece ter havido, se é verdade que este indivíduo estava lá, se é verdade que este indivíduo na altura já estaria referenciado como ofensor sexual, agressor sexual na Alemanha, e repare que curiosamente, a Alemanha já estava vinculada, porque a Alemanha foi um dos primeiros países que se vinculou com um pequeno grupo de outros países numa deci… num tratado que depois veio a ser incorporado nas normas europeias que hoje também vinculam Portugal, a fazer a tal base de dados de perfil ADN, vamos, vamos simplificar… Hoje, se fosse hoje seria mais fácil ir ali à base de dados como disse ali há pouco o Dr. Duarte Vieira, pegar nas amostras que esperemos que hajam sobrevivido daqueles primeiros momentos da investigação onde as coisas não correram bem…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Essas sobreviveram.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Essas sobreviveram. Se essas casarem com a base de perfil ADN que exista na Alemanha onde se inclua o autor do crime, então teremos aqui um passo gigantesco na investigação. Agora já estamos outra vez naquela hesitações que sempre caracterizaram este processo de: mas as amostras já foram?Foram ou não foram? Parece que na Alemanha se diz que não foram, de Portugal diz-se que foram, quer-se dizer, o…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> O costume.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …tem falado com o casal McCann? Para terminarmos, estamos no limite do nosso tempo, como é que Kate e Gerry McCann têm digerido este caso? Já estão mais convencidos que a filha eventualmente está mesmo morta?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Não. Isto é porque justamente…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Justamente porque nunca lhes foi comunicado directa e pessoalmente…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Nunca receberam qualquer carta...?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Não. Houve efectivamente uma comunicação feita através através da polícia inglesa, donde não resulta este teor. Agora, isto está dito publicamente! O procurador alemão já disse mais do que uma vez…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Mas o procurador alemão nunca lhes mandou uma carta a dizer ela está morta.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Não. Não. Nunca mandou. E portanto, confesso que também me parece um, um pouco estranho, embora tenha de aceitar as metodologias do procurador alemão que disse que entende mais adequado, a verdade é que parece haver aqui uma certa assimetria, como há pouco referi, entre a convicção da culpa daquele indivíduo, que poderá, obviamente ser concluída a partir da investigação, a convicção profunda de que a Madeleine estará morta e a falta de indícios suficientes para acusar…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Esses, os McCann não estão convencidos e sentem-se…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> …aponquentados por isso…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> É preciso que as pessoas percebam que são duas pessoas comuns que sofrem há 13 anos com, não só o rapto da filha e com o desconhecimento, a angústia e a incerteza do que terá acontecido. Evidentemente que é um choque um procurador – não é uma pessoa qualquer – a afirmar isto duma forma tão peremptória. Agora, o que, como toda a gente faria, creio eu, o que eles desejam é que se chegue ao fim da investigação, se façam as análises através da confrontação com o perfil de ADN, que se conclua se existe algum perfil de ADN que sim ou não, seja o compatível que exista na Alemanha e que se chegue a uma conclusão que não seja só informação um pouco não sustentada.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Que se ponha um ponto final. Rogério Alves, muito obrigada por ter estado connosco esta noite.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>RA:</b> Obrigado, boa noite.</span></i></div>
Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-49314741745443348162020-06-21T21:59:00.002+01:002020-06-21T21:59:20.152+01:00Amaral's pictures of BC's van - TVI June 21 2007 20:00 News<table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"><tbody>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Back of van picture shown by Amaral on TVI</td></tr>
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Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-76635760117387001772020-06-21T16:09:00.003+01:002020-06-21T21:55:45.376+01:00Christian Wolter, Sexta às 9, June 19 2007<div style="text-align: justify;">
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In publishing what we deem to be important in Sandra Felgueiras’ programme “Sexta às 9” aired on RTP1 at June 19 2020, we will skip its first part which we consider to have simply been the “making-of-a-monster” clutter, aimed at driving in the message that it was Christian Brueckner who killed Maddie, even though up to now, we have seen absolutely no evidence whatsoever to sustain this claim.<br />
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Joana Morais had the unthankful task of summarising it, starting in the following tweet:<br />
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<a href="https://twitter.com/JoanaAMorais/status/1274090668474982400">https://twitter.com/JoanaAMorais/status/1274090668474982400</a><br />
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We would like to thank and recognise Joana's effort. <br />
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<a name='more'></a>The blog will only be publishing what we consider to have been the most relevant parts of the programme, and we will start with the interview – with a few minutes before it to contextualise – with the German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters.<br />
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We would like to call to the attention that Sandra Felgueiras addresses Hans Christian Wolters in English – meaning what we publish is a transcription and not a translation – and that he replies in German. In the programme his replies are subtitled and it’s those that we have translated.<br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>Sandra Felgueiras: </b>The German police say Christian Brueckner was around here and that he made a suspicious phone call for half an hour, then immediately after he would have gone in through this window. But the PJ never detected not even a fingerprint, nor even evidence of burglary, so this lead was devalued, but it is now possible to try to make a compatibilization. At the time, in 2007, about 600 samples were collected. Samples were almost all irrelevant because it was not possible to detect any compatibility and besides they were collected after the tracking dogs entered the apartment. But in these samples there is one of saliva and one of blood, samples that may be decisive now for testing whether or not Brueckner was at the scene of the crime.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: #38761d;"><b>Duarte Nuno Vieira (Former President of the INML):</b> If there is a suspect whose DNA has also been typed, it’s enough compare the results of the typing on this suspect, it is not necessary to repeat it in all those samples because the result of what is detected in the samples already exists.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: I</b>t’s only needed a DNA sample from this suspect...</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: #38761d;"><b>DNV: </b>It’s only needed a sample of any new suspects that exists to be compared.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF to Hans Christian Wolters:</b> Can I ask you if you have already requested those samples in order to see if there’s a match between Christian Brueckner and those samples?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Hans Christian Wolters </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>: </b>I only heard about it this morning and I can't comment at the moment because we don't want to present any data, that is, we don't want to say what we have already investigated or what we still intend to investigate. So I can't say anything.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF (voice over):</b> An exclusive interview with the German prosecutor investigating the Madeleine case, statements that "Sexta às 9" knows are being called into question by the PJ itself. Sources close to the Portuguese investigation guarantee that the German authorities have already received all the genetic profiles collected in the Madeleine case. It is certain that so far, the German evidence is not enough to accuse Brueckner of Madeleine’s homicide, which can only mean that they have not yet obtained a positive DNA comparison.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW: </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> At the moment, our evidence is not enough to accuse or arrest him. Although we have strong evidence, it’s still not enough to accuse him.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> In order to have a conviction we need to have a body or we need a DNA sample, so I ask you do you want to make excavations here in Praia da Luz, where Christian Brueckner used to live?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Of course, a body always facilitates the investigation because it is possible to prove without a doubt that someone has died, but I ask for your comprehension to the fact that I cannot say what we still want to investigate in Portugal. Or if we may have already investigated in the past in Portugal. Whether the results of the investigations provided by the Portuguese authorities are sufficient, or what the Portuguese authorities have given the English police. At the moment, I don't want to comment on that.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Your conviction is that Madeleine is dead?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Yes ... We have the conviction that Madeleine was killed.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> But that comes because of Christian Brueckner’s profile, by what you know about him?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> It has nothing to do with the profile; it is rather from these clues, from what we have been investigating. In the last two years we have collected a lot of evidence and it was from this knowledge, from this evidence, that we ended up concluding that the girl was killed. I still can't for now advance what evidence it is in concrete.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Are you sure that the man that received the phone call at 7:30, close to Ocean Club was Christian B?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> We assume </span></i>[literal translation: partimos do princípio/we depart from the principle]<i><span style="color: blue;"> he used this mobile phone but we don't know who he spoke to. It would be very useful if we knew that, and it would help to develop the investigation.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>And you have any lead to know who was the other man or the other person that call him that evening?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Until the last appeal we made, we had no indication of who it might be. But I cannot tell you if witnesses have appeared since the appeal. And at the moment I have no results in this regard.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: red;"><b>Serafim Vieira (Brueckner’s lawyer in 2006):</b> In my process, the numbers that I have are neither those two.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Why haven’t you interrogated Christian Brueckner till now?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> The suspect’s interrogation in Germany happens usually at the end of the investigation and this has to do with the following... In the interrogation, we have to accuse the suspect of something. We have to tell him what we know to see how he reacts. And this only makes sense if we do not disclose to the public, nor to the media, nor to the suspect the concrete evidence we have.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Do you believe that he could have committed this crime alone?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> I can't evaluate it. I have no concrete information about that.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Which kind of crimes is Christian Brueckner suspect of concerning Madeleine McCann case?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[subtitled]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>: </b>We are only investigating the suspicion of homicide.</span></i><br />
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<u><b>The original</b></u><b>:</b><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>Sandra Felgueiras:</b> A polícia alemã diz que Christian Brueckner estava por aqui e que realizou um telefonema suspeito por meia-hora, logo a seguir terá entrado por esta janela. Mas a PJ nunca detectou nem uma impressão digital, nem sequer provas de arrombamento, pelo que esta pista foi desvalorizada, mas agora é possível tentar uma compatibilização. Foram recolhidas na altura, em 2007, cerca de 600 amostras. Amostras quase todas irrelevantes porque não foi possível detectar qualquer compatibilidade e além disso foram recolhidas depois dos cães pisteiros terem entrado no apartamento. Mas entre essas amostras há uma de saliva e outra de sangue, amostras que podem ser decisivas agora para testar se Brueckner esteve ou não no local do crime.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: #38761d;"><b>Duarte Nuno Vieira (Ex-presidente Instituto Medicina Legal):</b> Se houver um suspeito a quem seja tipado também o ADN, basta comparar os resultados da tipagem neste suspeito, não é preciso repeti-lo naquelas amostras todas porque o resultado do que é que se detectou nas amostras já existe</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>Sandra Felgueiras: </b>Só é preciso uma amostra de ADN deste suspeito…</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: #38761d;"><b>DNV: </b>Só é preciso uma amostra de qualquer suspeito novo que exista para ser comparado.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF to Hans Christian Wolters:</b> Can I ask you if you have already requested those samples in order to see if there’s a match between Christian Brueckner and those samples?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>Hans Christian Wolters </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Só soube disso hoje de manhã e não posso pronunciar-me de momento porque não queremos apresentar quaisquer dados, ou seja, não queremos dizer o que já investigámos ou o que ainda pretendemos investigar. Por isso, não posso pronunciar-me.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF (voz off): </b>Uma entrevista exclusiva do procurador alemão que investiga o caso Madeleine, declarações que o “Sexta às 9” sabe que são postas em causa pela própria PJ. Fontes próximas da investigação portuguesa garantem que as autoridades alemãs já receberam todos os perfis genéticos recolhidos no âmbito do caso Madeleine. Certo é que até agora, as provas alemãs não chegam para acusar Brueckner do homicídio de Madeleine, o que pode significar apenas que ainda não conseguiram uma comparação positiva de ADN.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW: </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> De momento as nossas provas não chegam para o acusar nem para o prender. Apesar de termos provas fortes, ainda não são suficientes para o acusar.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF:</b> Sandra Felgueiras: In order to have a conviction we need to have a body or we need a DNA sample, so I ask you do you want to make excavations here in Praia da Luz, where Christian Brueckner used to live?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> É claro que um corpo facilita sempre a investigação porque assim é possível provar sem dúvidas que alguém morreu, mas peço a vossa compreensão para o facto de não poder dizer o que ainda queremos investigar em Portugal. Ou se poderemos já ter investigado no passado em Portugal. Se os resultados das investigações facultados pelas autoridades portuguesas são suficientes, ou o que as autoridades portuguesas deram à polícia inglesa. De momento, não quero pronunciar-me sobre isso.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Your conviction is that Madeleine is dead?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Sim… Estamos convictos de que Madeleine foi morta.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>But that comes because of Christian Brueckner’s profile, by what you know about him?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Nada tem a ver com o perfil; é antes a partir destes indícios, do que fomos averiguando. Recolhemos nos últimos dois anos muitas provas e foi a partir deste conhecimento, destas provas, que acabámos por concluir que a menina foi morta. Ainda não posso para já adiantar que provas são essas em concreto</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Are you sure that the man that received the phone call at 7:30, close to Ocean Club was Christian B?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Partimos do princípio que ele utilizou este telemóvel mas não sabemos com quem falou. Seria muito útil se soubéssemos isso, e ajudaria a desenvolver a investigação.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>And you have any lead to know who was the other man or the other person that call him that evening?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>:</b> Até ao ultimo apelo que fizemos não tínhamos nenhum indício de quem pudesse ser. Mas não lhe posso dizer se, desde o apelo, já apareceram testemunhas. E de momento não tenho nenhum resultado a este respeito.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: red;"><b>Serafim Vieira (advogado de Brueckner em 2006): </b>No meu processo os números que eu tenho não são nenhum desses dois.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Why haven’t you interrogated Christian Brueckner till now?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>: </b>O interrogatório ao suspeito acontece na Alemanha habitualmente no fim das investigações e isso tem a ver com o seguinte… No interrogatório, temos de acusar o suspeito de algo. Temos de dizer-lhe o que sabemos para ver como reage. E isto só faz sentido se não divulgarmos nem ao público, nem aos media, nem ao suspeito as provas concretas que temos.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Do you believe that he could have committed this crime alone?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>: </b>Não o possa avaliar. Não tenho informações concretas sobre isso.</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>SF: </b>Which kind of crimes is Christian Brueckner suspect of concerning Madeleine McCann case?</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>CW </b></span></i>[legendado]<i><span style="color: blue;"><b>: </b>Apenas estamos a investigar a suspeita de homicídio.</span></i></div>
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<i><b>GERMANS REQUEST THE PROCESS AND WANT TO TRY CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER</b></i></div>
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<i><b>Suspicions – </b>They don’t reveal the new data coming to the Maddie investigation in the last weeks</i></div>
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<i><b>Searches - </b>PJ will go to the field if there are concrete places to search for the girl's body</i></div>
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<i>The Germans want to try Christian Brueckner, the suspect for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. They have already asked for all the elements from the Portuguese authorities and intend to make use of German law, which allows the judgment of national citizens, even if the crimes were committed in other countries.</i><br />
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<i>For this reason, the alleged vestige of DNA that will have been found in the house from where the girl disappeared - and that the CM knows that it will hardly have any identifying value - has already been asked to the Portuguese authorities. The Germans have heard other witnesses and have been keeping all the clues they have received in the last weeks - after the suspicions against the German were made public.</i><br />
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<i>At this moment, the CM knows, the authorities are at an impasse. The PJ, which is also competent to investigate the case, will only return to the field if the Germans indicate concrete places where Maddie's body may be hidden. The searches may focus on wells and holes, but the PJ is waiting for the German investigation to reveal some new clue, since what exists in Portugal is insufficient to proceed with searches.</i><br />
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<i>Also in the van that was apprehended in Lagos and sent to Germany to be subject to expertise, nothing relevant was found. There was no indication of the English girl, who disappeared on May 3, 2007, in Praia da Luz. The same happened in the house where Christian Brueckner lived, but which he left still in 2007. For now, the suspect, detained in a prison in Kiel, was still not heard by the German authorities.</i><br />
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<u>Insert</u>: <i>PORTUGAL WAS ASKED FOR THE ALLEGED VESTIGE FOUND IN THE HOUSE</i><br />
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<i>The German prosecutor in charge of the case Hans Christian Wolters, launched some criticisms of the actions of the Portuguese authorities saying that they “still think that Maddie's parents are responsible for the disappearance” and they have lengthy procedures.</i><br />
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<i>It is difficult to know what the next steps of the investigation will be, but the German authorities show that they will not drop the matter, even if the main suspect refuses to speak or give any clue. The prosecutor in the case believes there will be answers soon.</i><br />
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<i>The McCann couple was having dinner with friends at the tourist resort Ocean Club, in Praia da Luz. The children - Maddie, 3, Sean and Amelie, 2 - stayed in their room, about 50 meters from the restaurant. Close to 10 pm, Kate heads to the apartment and gives the alert for the disappearance of her eldest daughter. The GNR is called and, shortly after, the PJ is activated. Searches are carried out on the grounds around the resort for several days (they ended on May 11). The parents are heard by the PJ and make a public appeal for the girl's restitution.</i><br />
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<u>Caption</u>: <i>Maddie disappeared from the room of the Ocean Club resort</i><br />
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<i>Maddie's parents were constituted arguidos after being questioned at the PJ in Portimão - Kate was heard for five hours and Gerry for nine. The confirmation was made by the lawyer representing the McCanns, Carlos Pinto de Abreu, explaining that “no charges have been filed against them and the investigation is continuing”. The couple was given the measure of caution of term of identity and residence, having complete freedom to, on the following day, return home. Back in May, the Englishman Robert Murat had been constituted arguido in the case, but ended up cleared.</i><br />
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<i>Kate and Gerry returned to the UK, after months of diligences without any result and numerous clues that proved to be false, including some that guaranteed the sighting of Maddie in various locations in Spain. Weeks earlier, Scotland Yard made available two dogs capable of smelling the odour of death. The animals signalled the presence of a cadaver in three locations: in the room where the girl slept, at the Ocean Club, in the garden of the tourist resort and inside the trunk of the car used by the McCann days after the disappearance.</i><br />
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<i>The Public Ministry archives the case “because no evidence of a crime has been obtained”. Thus, Kate and Gerry have also ceased to be arguidos in the process. The couple continues to make appeals for Maddie to be found, asking British tourists to spread the photo of the girl on their vacation locations. In the years that followed, Maddie's parents became involved in a war with former PJ inspector Gonçalo Amaral, who wrote a book where he points towards the girl's accidental death. In October 2013, the case is reopened, coinciding with the Brueckner investigation.</i><br />
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<u>Caption</u>: <i>More than a year later the case was archived </i><br />
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<i><b>13 YEARS WITHOUT MADDIE</b><br /><br /><b>SEARCHES</b><br />All attempts to find Maddie have failed. Germans say they have the key to the mystery</i><br />
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<i>It was not for lack of commitment that the Portuguese authorities have not, until today, discovered the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann. The disappearance began to be treated as an abduction. Hence the requested collaboration of the Portuguese and British secret services and the intervention of Interpol. Without abandoning this line of investigation, the hypothesis of the child's death, accidental or provoked, also gained strength, especially since the tracking dogs from England detected odour of cadaver and blood in the McCann's holiday home, in the car used by the couple, on a flowerbed of the backyard, in Kate's clothes and on the child's cuddle cat.<br /><br />But everything came to nothing. Until the Germans came into action, when they realized that their compatriot Christian Brueckner, who lived in Portugal between 1995 and 2007, was mentioned in several investigations related to the disappearance of children. For the German authorities there is no doubt: it was him.</i><br />
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<u>Caption of background photo</u>:<i> Madeleine McCann disappeared days from completing 4 years</i><br />
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<u>Caption</u>:<i> 1 - Kate gave the alert for the disappearance 2 - Gerry was accused, as well as his wife</i><br />
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<i>Christian Brueckner, a German with a record who lived near Praia da Luz, in Lagos, at the time of Maddie's disappearance, has been investigated since October 2013, after an old colleague thought he looked like an e-fit. On November 4, 2013, he received a summons from the German police to be heard as a witness, but the authorities let the motive for the summons in the note. Brueckner, 43, knew he was going to become a suspect of the abduction of the English girl even before the investigation started. He managed to escape the interrogation.</i><br />
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<i>German police reveals that Brueckner, in custody in the country for drug trafficking, is now the main suspect in Maddie's abduction and death. Among the clues already collected, there are several photographs of houses where the sexual predator passed in the Algarve region, including the one where he lived at the time of the crime, in an isolated area and a short distance from Praia da Luz. Images of a fireplace and a sofa, inside the residence were released. In a few days, details of the man's record emerged, including sexual crimes against minors.</i><br />
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<i>The main facts that associate Brueckner to the abduction of the English girl are beginning to be revealed. A call received by the German puts him in Praia da Luz when Maddie disappeared. The authorities release the phone numbers, hoping to find the person who called the man with a record, considered a fundamental witness. The vehicles he was driving at the time were also recovered and subjected to expertise. It is also discovered that on May 3, 2017, Brueckner said to a friend that he knew "everything that happened to Maddie".</i><br />
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<i>Hans Christian Wolters, the prosecutor in charge of the case, says there are clues of Maddie's death, but ends up taking a step back and assuming that it is just the obvious conclusion in cases with sexual predators. The magistrate also stresses that the parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, are innocent and criticizes the Portuguese police. Meanwhile, Brueckner's ex-girlfriend reveals that, on the eve of the child's disappearance, the man told her that he was going to “do a terrible thing in Praia da Luz”, that he was going to “change” his life and would make him disappear during a while.</i><br />
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<u>Caption</u>:<i> Hans Christian Wolters says there are signs of death</i><br />
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<i><b>DOUBTS</b> - Casal McCann was suspect of the eldest daughter's disappearance. They were questioned by the PJ <b>QUESTIONS</b> - Maddie's mother remained in silence when she was constituted arguido</i><br />
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<i>The investigation into the Maddie case took a 180-degree turn when the spotlight centred on the child's parents, over whom then fell the guilt for the English girl's disappearance. The constitution of arguidos for Kate and Gerry McCann was based on a set of facts and circumstances, which, for the investigation, were solid enough to point the finger at the couple.</i><br />
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<i>Right away, the behaviour of the dogs, who detected cadaver and blood odours in the McCann car and holiday home.</i><br />
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<i>On September 7, 2007, four months after the disappearance, Kate was called to the PJ of Portimão to clarify some loose ends in the case, but no light was shone as to what happened. Maddie's mother, who had up until then collaborated with the police, chose to be silent when she was constituted arguida. Of the tens of questions that remained unanswered, three referred to Maddie's DNA found in the car rented by the couple, a month after the girl's disappearance:</i><br />
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<i>- Signalled [by the sniffer dogs] the odour of cadaver coming from the car they rented a month after [Maddie's] disappearance, said she can't explain anything more than she has already referred?</i><br />
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<i>- Signalled the human blood in the trunk of the vehicle, said she can't explain anything more than she has already referred?</i><br />
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<i>- Faced with the result of Maddie's DNA collected, whose analysis was carried out by a British laboratory [the public institute Forensic Science Service], behind the sofa and the trunk of the vehicle, said she can't explain anything more than she has already referred?</i><br />
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<i>Two days after Kate's presence at the PJ in Portimão, where a small crowd of curious onlookers gathered and booed and whistled upon arrival, the couple and their twin daughters </i>[sic]<i> left for England, with no sign of Maddie.</i><br />
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<i>GIRL'S MOTHER REFUSED TO ANSWER ABOUT ODOUR OF CADAVER IN CAR</i><br />
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<i>AUTHORITIES WANTED JUSTIFICATION FOR MADDIE'S DNA IN THE TRUNK</i><br />
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MADDIE'S DISAPPEARANCE MOBILIZES CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE FAMOUS<br />
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<b>MCCANN COUPLE</b> WAS RECEIVED, AT S. PEDRO SQUARE, IN VATICAN, BY THE POPE BENEDICT XVI, ON MAY 30, 2007. THE POPE BLESSED A PHOTO OF MADDIE<br />
<b><br />DAVID BECKHAM</b>, EX-PLAYER, MADE AN APPEAL ON VIDEO TO FIND MADDIE. ALSO CR7, WHO AT THE TIME PLAYED IN ENGLAND, ALERTED TO THE CASE<br />
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<i>Christian Brueckner, 43, is the main suspect in Maddie's abduction and murder and has a long record, which started as a teenager. In addition to sexual crimes against minors, he was sentenced to 7 years in prison for raping a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz and a year and a half for drug trafficking.</i><br />
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<i>Operation Grange, the name given by the British police to the process of Maddie’s disappearance, has already cost the UK more than 14 million euros, without any practical results. There is a fixed team to investigate the case.</i><br />
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<i>A witness assured the authorities of having seen a figure with a child on his lap in the space of time that the child disappeared while the parents dined at a nearby restaurant. From the account, however, it was not possible to reach any conclusion. Today it is admitted that the figure in question was Brueckner.</i><br />
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Textusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.com48tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-67105252114412385802020-06-04T12:42:00.001+01:002020-06-08T13:24:29.469+01:00Henrique Machado on TVI<div style="text-align: justify;">
<span style="font-size: x-small;">Post updated on June 06, 13:00 with the transcription of the interview on June 04 2007, 13:00 News.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: x-small;">Post updated on June 06, 16:30 with the transcription of the interview on June 04 2007, 20:00 News.</span><br />
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All TV stations in Portugal, opened their eight o'clock news with the “new” German suspect. Of the various channels we would like to highlight TVI, as it had as a guest Henrique Machado.<br />
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Henrique Machado, we remind readers, was a witness for the McCanns in the McCann v Amaral damages trial:<br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>José Alberto Carvalho:</b> We have on the eight o'clock news the TVI justice editor Henrique Machado, good evening Henrique</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>Henrique Machado:</b> Good evening</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>However surprising it may be, and it is, and we gave the breaking news on TVI24, about half an hour ago...it is… it is information that must be taken with all the seriousness and solidity possible, because otherwise, no...three police from three different countries would not involve their reputation in an investigation as sensitive as this one has always been from the beginning…</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> Yes, naturally, from the point of view of taking official assumption of the formal suspicions that befall this man.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Is this man a formal suspect right now?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> He's a formal suspect. This man...I believe that with...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>And he’s the first?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM: </b>And it's the first, he’s the first. And this is what gives credibility to this news piece because people already have a tendency to look at this case with all the developments that have happened in the Maddie case over the last 10 years, I will not say 13 but 10, this has all been highly speculative and people think it’s more of the same, only the suspect changes, and… and… and… and… and is launched the discredit on the criminal investigation, first in Portugal, then in England where the Metropolitan Police has spent loads, millions pounds to...for the investigation of this case and it was never successful. In this case, 13 years later, the PJ, which was the...the...the main impulse and is the main responsible for the results of this investigation, has formally assumed in a written statement the suspicions about this man. I remind you that at the time, as early as two thousand...in that hot month of May 2007 when this child disappeared, the case evolved very quickly and in completely opposite directions, suspicions about a gentleman who was a neighbour of the couple...of the couple, so, of the Ocean Club, of the resort venture where the couple was on vacation, which was Robert Murat, then there was a Russian citizen who also became a suspect and then the McCann couple, the parents of this child, were even made arguidos and there a great tension because there were formal suspicions that they were responsible, or suspects of...of...for the disappearance of the child, but the PJ never crossed, in quotation marks, the...with...with...the assumption of these suspicions. Regarding this suspect, they do. And I would like to say that this suspect, with the evidence that exists at this moment in the process, is not only arrested, in the context of issuing a European Arrest Warrant, for example, since he is in the European space because the man is already in prison, right? The gentleman is already imprisoned in the context of a process also of a sexual nature, and this refers us to the motivation, to the motive of this crime that has to do with the… with the fact that… of… of… this gentleman has motivations of a sexual nature, as I said.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Two or three questions about this, Henrique. First, there is no information on whether this suspect has already been formally questioned by the police...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> He was, He was questioned...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Was he?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM: </b>He was questioned and does not confess to the crime.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> And...and did answer the questions or remit to silence, is it known?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> I know he didn't collaborate, he didn't collaborate with justice...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> With the authorities...and was this interrogation done by the German authorities?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM: </b>Naturally it has to be, the jurisdiction is German.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Naturally. Uh… uh… it is unknown what fate would have been given to the child who would be seventeen today.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> The conviction is that we are facing...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>Murder...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b>…abduction and homicide crimes, and that this abduction was motivated by crimes of a sexual nature.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>All these developments, in short, have been gathered in the last few hours, and it has here this corollary that will demand a greater attention, naturally in the next few hours...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> Now, José Alberto, the million-dollar question is what evidence does the investigation have for this man. Because it is not enough to have reason and opportunity...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> I was going to ask you, because I know you were reading, I didn't have that opportunity, a statement from the PJ, which is just out, what is it in your opinion is worth emphasizing...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> It is worth emphasizing that, and this is relevant information in relation to what we already have, in addition to the assumption of the suspicions, they refer that he is a German citizen who was not passing through Portugal, therefore was not a tourist. He has lived in Portugal since 95 or 96 and therefore only left Portugal curiously or not, in 2007, so 10, 12, 11 or 12 years after arriving in our country...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Which immediately raises a series of other questions, if he was 30 at the time of Maddie's disappearance...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM: </b>He is 43 now.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> …yes, he would have lived in Portugal since he was very young, probably 17, 18… uh .. and… and there in… Praia da Luz… anyway. We have a formal suspect...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> We have a formal suspect...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> …it is not known what substantive evidence exists?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b>…not just for having… not just for having reason and opportunity that he was actually there, and reason because we already realized that someone with a… sexual compulsion… he’s in jail for… for crimes of the same nature committed on another victim, but this is not enough. The PJ besides this also has evidence, namely the collection of metadata. What is metadata? It is the cellular information that our cell phone leaves on the antennas of the place where we are, and this was collected as soon...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Even 13 years later?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM: </b>No. It was collected in May 2007.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>Ah.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> Therefore, the PJ and the Portimão’s Public Ministry retained this information immediately from the operators at the time before they disappeared...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>But they didn’t come up with this name, this suspect, nor the chance of being someone with these...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM: </b>No, no...Hundreds or thousands of people were investigated. It is not easy to routinize all foreigners who pass through Lagos...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b>...in the summer months or almost in the summer, we are talking about...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Yes, Henrique, what is also unknown, to conclude, what was the initial clue that pointed the investigators in this direction?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM: </b>No. I at least am not in possession of that information, but I have no doubt that the PJ have it. Th PJ have it and the German police have it, being the two main players involved in this. The Metropolitan Police also enters, naturally it had an international investigation, but it is mainly the PJ…</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Yes, because it was favourable, sorry to interrupt, it was fa...it was, it was good that the English police did not torpedo and therefore be in agreement, errm...and were properly informed about the steps of this investigation...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> Yes, of course, not least because they have a lot of information collected from the...of the last years with all the investment they have made and that they were in Portugal, etcetera. And, and therefore… and diplomatic relations also count a lot here…</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> A lot…</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b>…that things went a little sour in 2007 when it was realised that there was a formal suspicion about the couple. I wouldn’t like to go away without saying about that formal suspicion about the couple, that in relation to the couple our investigation and the process, as far as they are concerned, went from 80 to, I won’t say 8, but it went to zero. This couple has no evidence that it was minimally involved in the disappearance…</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>Maddie's parents?</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> Maddie's parents...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>But there was only...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> …in Maddie's disappearance, but there is a crime that they committed…</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> It is a crime of...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC:</b> Abandonment...</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>HM:</b> …it is a crime of exposure or abandonment of this child, and our Public Ministry never had the courage to hold responsible the gentlemen for this crime. And there, I think it was done more politics than justice if, if you allow me.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: purple;"><i><b>JAC: </b>Very well, we will follow the developments and try to understand them better, because this is in fact, in short, in the middle of a pandemic, in the midst of an international crisis, it is one of the most unlikely news items that we could give, thank you Henrique for coming to the 8 o’clock news.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>“<a href="https://www.policiajudiciaria.pt/investigacao-ao-desaparecimento-de-uma-crianca-inglesa-no-algarve-em-2007/" target="_blank"><b>Investigation into the disappearance of an English child in the Algarve in 2007</b></a></i></span><br />
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<b><span style="color: blue;"><i>Published on 03/06/2020</i></span></b><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>The PJ confirms that, as part of the investigation into the disappearance of an English child, which took place in the Algarve in 2007, diligences are being developed, for the full clarification of the situation.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>In close coordination with the German (BKA) and English (Metropolitan Police) authorities, in sharing information, carrying out formal investigative and expert acts, in Portugal and abroad, elements were collected that indicate the possible intervention, in the disappearance of the child, from a German citizen.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>The suspect in question, 43, with a criminal record, resided in Portugal between 1996 and 2007 and is currently serving a prison sentence in Germany.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>The family of the missing child was informed of these investigative developments by the English authorities.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>The investigation continues.”</i></span><br />
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One thing that really stands out is that nowhere in this statemnet is “McCann”, “Madeleine” or “Maddie” used, which would be the most naturally used words to search for the subject.<br />
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<u><br /> </u><u><b>HENRIQUE MACHADO ON TVI - JUNE 04 2007, 13:00 News</b></u><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>João Póvoa Marinheiro: </b>And for the analysis of these latest developments, I have TVI's justice editor, Henrique Machado. Henrique, good afternoon…</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>Henrique Machado: </b>Hello, good afternoon.</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM:</b> ... what is the probability of an outcome after so many years?</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM: </b>It is remote. It is remote. Even, even by virtue of, of… the more than likely prescription of this case. I mean, the crime of kidnapping is already prescribed, the crime of homicide prescribes in 15 years and it’s been already 13, so if there is no suspension of the prescription period, and I think there is not, this case had to be resolved with condemnation in court in the next until the prescription, and therefore only by magic arts would the Public Ministry achieve this. Even so because one can understand that this case is far from being concluded from the point of view of the investigation...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM:</b> And are these investigation clues the most consistent?</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM:</b> We do not know the clues, we do not know the clues, we know what are circumstances that this suspect actually fits in the profile that is sought by the police, that is, he had a motive and had opportunity. Motive, because he is a person with connections to violent crimes, of a sexual nature or of theft, possibly a theft that could have gone wrong, a burglary there on the Ocean Club resort where the child was sleeping could have gone wrong, and then he took the victim for some reason, and had the opportunity because he was effectively there, in that area, at that time. And there is also the circumstance, curious or not, that this gentleman living in Portugal since 95 or 96 and disappears from the Algarve right after the crime in 2007.</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM: </b>And precisely in relation to that fact, in relation to these latest developments, this is yet another blow to the investigation that was done here, to the… disappearance, yet another blow in PJ's reputation…</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM: </b>No!!...</span><br /><b><br /></b><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM:</b> …taking into account that the suspect lived all this time in the Algarve.</span><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b><br />HM:</b> ...I think not even because the police ...</span><br /><b><br /></b><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM:</b> …despite…</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM: </b>The PJ is part of the solution of this investigation and in this outcome of outcome, that is, in this direction that we now know, and it is not part of the problem. In other words, the PJ was one of the main impulses for the investigation to now move in this direction in articulation with the German and English authorities. Why? Because it is the PJ that has the work namely the collection of cellular information in relation to cell phones that triggered antennas in Praia da Luz at that time. That is why, the police now have reference to those 2 phone numbers that… they appeal to whoever used those numbers and who have contacted the suspect, etcetera, so that they contact the police and make statements that can be useful to the clarification of the truth. And so there is an enormous amount of work done here by the PJ, which then naturally needs to be complemented. But I already said it here yesterday and I say it again, I mean, there are no miracles because, I think we are talking about the Algarve, not in the peak of summer but in May already when there is a lot of traffic to… a… especially associated with tourism of people who pass through the Algarve and then go to the most different corners of the world. Therefore, routinizing 600 or 700 people who minimally fit a certain profile, who left Portugal, whose cell phones activated those antennas, this is not easy ...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM: </b>And 13 years ago ...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM: </b>… for years a series of people were screened, it ended up to this suspect, and what we know is not evidence, as I said, they are clues in some way, but are not enough to assume a formal suspicion. If the police, namely the PJ, for the first time in this case, formally assume, even in a statement, formal suspicions in relation to this man, surely they have matter of proof that we do not know beyond this, which is mere circumstantial questions. And we realize that on the one hand they have evidence, but that evidence is still not enough for an accusation, because we see the German and English police, the German and English police asking for collaboration for people who have seen that van, that car, that have seen the… who have contacted this man through those cell phone numbers, etcetera. Therefore, there are loose ends, and the… it would be very difficult to reach this child's body, if indeed…</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM:</b> We are at ...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM: </b>…the homicide thesis, but to understand where those vehicles were, I think the purpose of that is to try to find out where the body may have been hidden by this suspect.</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>JPM:</b> Henrique, thank you for analysing these latest developments.</span></i><br />
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The be given the status of arguido is to be made a formal suspect, and the case has had 3 of them: Robert Murat, Kate and Gerry McCann.<br />
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<u><b>HENRIQUE MACHADO ON TVI - JUNE 04 2007, 20:00 News</b></u><br />
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<i><span style="color: purple;"><b>Pedro Pinto: </b>Henrique Machado, TVI's justice editor. Henrique, good night, does it seem like a sufficiently sustained thesis, in short, that leads to this German suspect or are we facing a handful of nothing?</span><br /><span style="color: blue;"><br /><b>Henrique Machado:</b> Based on the public knowledge that we have in the case, the case so far it is a handful of nothing in the sense that we do not know what are the strong clues that lead to… that 3 reputable police forces that is, like the PJ, the German police and the Metropolitan police in London, that is to say ... what is it that leads them to formally assume suspicions on this man, we do not know what exists from the point of view of matter of proof, what we know are clues, are ... are ... are merely circumstantial proof of someone who in fact could have a motive and opportunity to commit this crime, or an opportunity because he was and lived there, the motives because it has already been realized that this man has a profile that links to a violent crime, of a sexual nature or even… of robberies and also related to drug trafficking in the Algarve area during the years he lived there, but none of this, very really, is sufficient, strategically it was not in any of the 3 countries disclosed for now any question related to the evidence, that is, we do not know the evidence they have…</span><br /><span style="color: purple;"><br /><b>PP: </b>The clues are, are clear to identify, the fact that he was close to the village of Luz, the fact that he </span></i>(imperceptible)<i><span style="color: purple;"> with the car the next day and the fact that he made a call that night, are worth what they are worth…</span><br /><b><br /><span style="color: blue;">HM: </span></b><span style="color: blue;">But this is worth what it is, I mean, because there are, there are 400 or 500 people passing by during those days, they also use the same antennas for phone calls that they make, they are in circulation to their countries of origin since that is a zone markedly… it is a zone very much marked by, by tourism and therefore, I mean, none of this is enough, now…</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>PP:</b> It means that the leads are also somehow launching this lead and waiting for, perhaps, locals who at the time ...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM:</b> I have no doubt that the objective...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>PP:</b> …have been aware, have had contact with...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM: </b>Right.</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>PP: </b>…with this suspect can add more to this investigation…</span><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b><br />HM: </b>Right. We know the profile of the PJ, and it accustomed us over the past few years and we know that the PJ is not in the habit of making public announcements of investigations when they are halfway through. They usually prefer to communicate either when there are arrests or when an investigation ends well, that is, with a proposal of indictment against someone. In this case, I dare say that the PJ was a little bit towed by what is the communication policy of, of, of the police ... especially the police...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>PP: </b>Towed or also against their will?</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;">HM: Maybe also a little against their will, as maybe a little against their will, but I think the pressure to divulge this, these advances in the investigation, of having a formal suspect, starts from the English, but this naturally they want to show service because this, this investigation done in England has been sustained with many millions of pounds over the years, this on the one hand...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>PP: </b>But in this case, in the case of the Portuguese police, in short, there is not exactly a deep conviction that this individual...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM: </b>Nooo… no, there is! There is that deep conviction on the part of the Portuguese police, what would not have existed was the desire to communicate it yesterday to the country as they had to do towed by, by, by ... by the other 2 police. But this has a purpose that I accept and understand, which is to try in some way to make people who have knowledge about what happened that night, people related to this, this man… that relates to them directly or indirectly, that they may now come to provide new… statements to, to the process and that namely clarify questions related to a cell phone, two cell phone numbers that have already been disclosed by the police and also in relation to the location of that van that the suspect used. So, this we have understood...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: purple;"><b>PP: </b>And which deep down sustains these suspicions ...</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM:</b> …we on understanding that this is important for the investigation, we also get to know that the investigation is far from being, of being with… of being concluded because they still need to tie several, several ends, but effectively there is something that we do not know, or from a scientific point of view, scientific, expert evidence. Let us suppose, and now we enter in the field of speculation, that there is a trace of DNA from, from Maddie that is found in either one of these vehicles or in one of the houses that this suspect frequented at that time, or else let's suppose a piece of clothing. This is expert evidence and these leave no room for, room for doubt. Another type of evidence is the testimonial evidence of someone who came to the process, pointing out the name of that gentleman, and who has demonstrated by A plus B why he was the one to commit the crime but in relation to that ...</span><br /><span style="color: purple;"><br /><b>PP:</b> Right, this is a process that is going to take a long time, it will </span></i>(imperceptible)<i><span style="color: purple;"> still until we reach a definite conclusion. Henrique Machado, thank you for the clarifications that you brought here.</span><br /><br /><span style="color: blue;"><b>HM:</b> I thank you.</span></i><br />
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<b>01. <u>Introduction</u></b><br />
<br />
If we were to try to convince the reader that planes and trains are basically the same thing, the reader would laugh at such a preposterous suggestion.<br />
<br />
However, the reader would rightfully laugh because the reader knows that they are completely different and no one in their right minds would confuse one for the other.<br />
<br />
But what if the reader didn’t know anything about either? Would the reader then laugh? Maybe not.<br />
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What if it were that the reader didn’t know the difference between them and we said that they are basically the same as both are means of transportation of passengers, both are made of metal, both are long in shape, both have windows on the sides, both have small and cramped toilets, both have a “driver” in the front and both have the passengers seated behind him in rows with a corridor in the middle, would we be lying?<br />
<br />
<a name='more'></a>Is anything that is said above false? No, they are the similarities between the 2 and we simply forgot to list the differences between them. We’ve used the truth to fool.<br />
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And after having said what we said above, again exploring knowing that the reader was ignorant of the difference between a plane and a train, we were to say that to travel from London to Lisbon the reader could opt to travel either by train or by plane because they are easily confused, would the reader not buy it? The reader would.<br />
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The reader only doesn’t buy it because the reader knows fully well that a plane is not a train and vice-versa.<br />
<br />
Likewise, and again after “establishing” that planes and trains were basically the same, if we said we were flying from London to Reading, the reader would not suspect we were lying.<br />
<br />
We didn’t lie, we simply cherry-picked the truth and after having done that we simply led the ignorant up the garden path.<br />
<br />
This, as we have said, is absolutely unfeasible because everyone is fully aware of the differences between the 2. But what if that was not the case?<br />
<br />
Because it isn’t the case when it comes to the dogs in the Maddie case. As those wanting to misinform are fully aware of the ignorance on the subject readers have, they have tried to sell the idea that when it comes to scents, trains are indeed planes.<br />
<br />
And they try to do that by saying that Eddie, the cadaver dog could also have alerted to blood. Basically, they have attempted to say that cadaver odour and blood odour are the same just like as trains and planes are for the ignorant.<br />
<br />
Trains and planes are both means of transportation but each have a different purpose and are not to be confused. A train station is not an airport, and one is always in constant contact with the ground.<br />
<br />
And this also happens with scents. The scent of blood is one thing, that of cadaver another. Both are scents but both are very different.<br />
<br />
It’s not what they have in common that matters but what tells them apart. Because it’s those differences that will enable us to understand what in reality the dogs are looking for and that one understands the subtleties of their training and deployment.<br />
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We will now repeat here an opinion statement we made in <a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2019/05/blood-and-evrd-dog-part-1.html" target="_blank">Part 1</a> of these “Blood and the EVR dog” posts, as some readers may be new to the blog and it’s been some time since it was published: <br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>“As
a disclaimer, we unlike some – NotTextusa, Mr Thompson and Sade Anslow, hoping to have respected the gang’s hierarchy – who
claim to have unquestioned and above all unquestionable expertise on all
of Martin Grime’s areas of expertise, are only providing personal
opinions on the subject, based simply on logic and general culture and
will evidently be corrected if shown we are wrong by those who sincerely
want to help.<br />
<br />
One does not have to possess a degree in science or have no more than the basics
of physics to know the seriousness of a man standing in front of train to stop it,
will end up with the train winning with terrible personal disastrous
consequences for the man.<br />
<br />
As we believe that Martin Grime is
indeed an expert, we have only made an effort to make logical sense of
what he said. No twisting, tweaking or adapting.”</i></span> <br />
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<br />
<b>02. <u>Density of a scent</u></b><br />
<br />
The first concept to understand is that of density.<br />
<br />
The best way to understand scents is to visualise scent molecules as light unbreakable soap bubbles.<br />
<br />
Density is the number of molecules per volume. The more molecules or “bubbles” it has per cubic inch/cm the denser it is.<br />
<br />
This
is important to understand that only after a certain density will it
trigger the nerve-endings of a nose in communicating with the brain and
make it undergo all the processes of scent recognition.<br />
<br />
Note, we are not talking about a dog’s brain but any binomial nose/brain.<br />
<br />
The
air is filled with scents very much like it’s filled with music in the
form of electric frequencies. All those frequencies are flying around
but only the right equipment tuned to the right frequency will reproduce
a particular music so that we can hear it while it’s being broadcast.<br />
<br />
When it is said that the dogs can pick-up
a scent with 10,000 times less intensity than a human is able to, that simply means that a scent
can have 10,000 times less density than that required to trigger a human nose to trigger a dog’s nose. A simple question of
density, which is the number of airborne molecules floating inside a determined volume.<br />
<br />
Taking that 10,000 number as absolute, that means that if a scent has 10,001 times
less density than the required to trigger a human nose, dogs, like humans won’t pick
up that scent. It’s there but neither dog nor human is able to pick it up. As neither noses will react to it, both will give a false negative to a scent that is there.<br />
<br />
This is simply physical and has to do
with the number of olfactory receptors (OR) genes that the living creature in question has in its nose, or whatever organ fulfils the olfactory function.<br />
<br />
The top 13
best-sniffers in the world according to according to lead author
Yoshihito Niimura of the University of Tokyo's Department of Applied
Biological Chemistry, and colleagues Atsushi Matsui and Kazushige
Touhara of the<span style="color: blue;"><i> “study, published in the journal Genome Research,
highlights how an animal's genetic makeup can underlie its ability to
distinguish different odors”</i></span>:<br />
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<a href="https://www.seeker.com/10-best-sniffers-in-the-animal-kingdom-1768828254.html">https://www.seeker.com/10-best-sniffers-in-the-animal-kingdom-1768828254.html</a><br />
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<b>13. </b>Humans – 396 OR genes;<br />
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<b>12.</b> Tree shrews – 563 OR genes;<br />
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<b>11.</b> Rabbits – 768 OR genes;<br />
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<b>10. </b>Guinea pigs – 796 OR genes;<br />
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<b>09.</b> Dogs – 811 OR genes;<br />
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<b>08.</b> Western clawed frog – 824 OR genes;<br />
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<b>07. </b>Horses – 1,066 OR genes;<br />
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<b>06.</b> Mice – 1,130 OR genes;<br />
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<b>05. </b>Chinese softshell turtle – 1,137 OR genes;<br />
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<b>04.</b> Cows – 1,186 OR genes;<br />
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<b>03. </b>Opossums – 1,188 OR genes;<br />
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<b>02. </b>Rats – 1,207 OR genes;<br />
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<b>01.</b> African elephant – 1,948 OR genes.<br />
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According
to this study, if dogs can pick up smells 10,000 times better than humans,
then horses can 16,000 times better, cows 19,000 times, rats 19,500
times and African elephants 37,400 times.<br />
<br />
This shows that there are scents in the air that are not
intense enough for dogs to pick up but are for other animals. Like dogs
can smell what humans can’t, dogs are unable to smell what other animals
can. Dogs give false negatives to scents that other animals don’t. And we are certain that there are scents that African elephants don’t pick up that are literally right under their trunks.<br />
<br />
This is to take out the drama out of the idea that dogs pick up all scents however minimal, which they don’t, as well as remove all importance of false negatives, as they happen constantly. <br />
<br />
The fact that a dog cannot pick up a scent doesn’t mean it
isn’t there. The scent is there but it
hasn’t enough density, or intensity to make the dog’s nose react that’s all there is to it.<br />
<br />
This in no
way related to the reliability of a dog’s alerts when it does alert to a scent. If it alerts, the scent is there,
if it doesn’t it may just mean that there was not enough density of it floating around for the dog to alert.<br />
<br />
<br />
<b>03. <u>Distance alert-source (DAS)</u></b><br />
<br />
The next concept to understand is the DAS, the distance alert-source. And we alert readers that this is a very important concept as we hope to show.<br />
<br />
Scents
are made up of airborne molecules but these have to have an emitting source, from which Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) are released into the air. We want to keep things simple, so we’ll call these VOCs as airborne molecules or simply molecules.<br />
<br />
Even
a lingering scent has to originate from a source. We will deal with lingering
scents later.<br />
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We will start by looking at a source releasing
airborne molecules into the air. If there’s no airflow influencing their
motion, its released airborne molecules will spread evenly in a radial manner, as per above.<br />
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It
is easy to understand that nearer one is to the source the greater is the density of molecules and that this density will decrease as the molecules
disperse into the air in the directions away from the source.<br />
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The Distance Alert-Source (DAS) is the
distance from the source where the scent has the minimum density to
trigger the dog’s nose.<br />
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This creates a volume, within which the dog alerts. We remind readers that alerting is not a voluntary action by the dog to please the handler. The dog has been conditioned by training, so this means that it’s literally a binary reaction: the moment the target scent triggers its nose, the dog’s brain reacts and he alerts.<br />
<br />
The strength of the scent has to do with
how volatile the source of the scent is. The number of molecules
released determines the density. The more volatile a substance is, the
greater the density is, the stronger the scent is.<br />
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That means that the stronger the scent
the longer is its DAS. Weak scents have a short or very short DAS.<br />
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A strong scent will have its DAS at a
significant distance from the source, while with a weaker scent, the
DAS will be near the source.<br />
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The dog does not recognise variances in densities, for him, once the threshold needed is reached, all have the same density: the one required to trigger him to alert. As already explained, the alert is a conditioned reaction and that reaction is triggered at the moment there’s a minimum density of the target scent to activate the dog’s nose.<br />
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Inside that volume for the dog the scent is EVERYWHERE and has the density required to trigger its nose. Inside the volume, he alerts, outside it he doesn’t. Where the source is inside that volume, the dog cannot determine. Under conditions that would not affect this volume, the source would be in the middle of it but as we will see, there are many factors conditioning the shape of this volume.<br />
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This has nothing to do with the dog’s will but only with what its training has conditioned the dog to react to, all very, very binary.<br />
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So, the longer the DAS is (the stronger the scent), the greater the Volume of Alert (VoA) and so also greater the uncertainty of where the source may be inside it, as it can be on any surface covered by that same volume. <br />
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On the other hand, with less volatile or weaker scents, as the DAS is very short, the location of the source can be determined with precision.<br />
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With weak scents, where the dog alerts is where the source is.<br />
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And immediately the reader can see the importance of the DAS: the determination of the location of the source.<br />
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With strong scents, because they have a big DAS, other factors play a role in determining the location of the source and in many cases it may not be determined. With weak scents, as the DAS is short, the location of the source is precise.<br />
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But, and this is what is really important to retain, if there are factors that make a strong scent have a short DAS, then the location of the source is also precise.<br />
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It’s not the strength of the scent but of the length of the DAS that determines the precision to locate a source. With weak scents, as their DAS is always short, that problem is solved right off the bat. <br />
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<b>04. <u>Strong v weak scents</u></b><br />
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We hope to have shown how dog alerts depend a scent’s DAS (stronger, longer DAS;
weaker, shorter DAS). Within the DAS, there’s an alert, outside it there’s not.<br />
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With dogs trained to alert to a
strong scent, the dog literally hits a cloud of scent in the air, meaning that unless there are other factors affecting the density of molecules in the air, its nose will be at considerable distance from the emitting source when he alerts to the scent.<br />
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As an example, if one has had the mishap of letting a piece of meat rot in the fridge, its highly pungent stench will reach our noses at a considerable distance from where it’s rotting. No need to get any closer to understand fully that in the fridge there is rotting meat. <br />
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On the other hand, a dog trained
to weaker scents, it will only give an alert when its nose is very close to the source,
or to be clear, when its nose is close to the spot on the surface where the source
is.<br />
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And this is the first clash with reality that those who advocate that Eddie is both a cadaver and a blood dog face: different reactions to different scents.<br />
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This is easy to understand just by watching YouTube videos of reactions that babies have when tasting different types of food:<br />
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Does one really need captions to understand that the baby on the left tasted something sour and that the baby on the right tasted something sweet? No, their reactions tell us all we need to know.<br />
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The same animal, in this case a human being, reacts differently to different tastes. The sensory function is the same, taste. The reactions are completely different according to what is being tasted. <br />
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Only an idiot would try to attempt to get away with convincing anyone that the baby on the left had tasted something sweet and/or that the baby on the right was reacting to something sour. Planes are not trains and that is the plain truth.<br />
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The difference of scents between blood and human decomposition differ to the nose as much as sweet and sour do to taste buds. One, the cadaver scent, is a very strong scent (pungent, repulsive) and the other, the blood, is a weak one (just <span style="color: blue;"><i>“</i></span><span style="color: blue;"><i>kind of metallic”</i></span>):<br />
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<a href="https://www.quora.com/What-does-decomposing-blood-look-like-outside-of-the-body">https://www.quora.com/What-does-decomposing-blood-look-like-outside-of-the-body</a><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>“<b>What does decomposing blood look like outside of the body?</b></i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>The
plasma, or the liquid portion, unless in a vial with some type of
anticoagulant, will evaporate leaving a film of proteins, which will
degrade out of the body. The blood cells will die rather rapidly outside
the body as well. So essentially, decomposing blood will smell kind of
metallic due to its trace minerals such as iron and copper. It will then
appear as a dark reddish stain that has dried up.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><b>Janet Caruana</b>, former Laboratory Technologist at Winthrop University Hospital (1999-2009)</i></span><br />
<span style="color: blue;"><i>Answered Dec 30 2017 · Author has 2.2k answers and 2.1m answer views”</i></span> <br />
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Without any factors influencing the emission of the scents, it is then easy to understand that a cadaver dog will alert to its target scent differently from a dog trained to alert to blood.<br />
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The conditioning methodology of training is exactly the same but as the DAS varies according to the strength, or volatility of scents, so will differ the reactions to different strengths of scents.<br />
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A strong scent “comes” to the dog while with a weak scent the dog must “go” to it.<br />
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As we have seen, the differences in strength or intensity between scents play a relevant part in the way a dog alerts to its target scent. Very much like a baby grimacing when tasting sour and smiling when given something sweet, different reactions on tasting.<br />
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Dogs don’t grimace or smile to their target scent but they do have a common reaction irrelevant of scent: pleasure.<br />
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That is caused by their training. They get rewarded and rewards are pleasure. It’s called positive reinforcement. And that happens with both weak and strong scents.<br />
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But the fact that a strong scent is much more volatile than a weak one, establishes a difference between them that, as we hope to show is very relevant.<br />
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Repeating ourselves, the greater the volatility, the greater is the density of airborne molecules away from where the source is and that means that the dog trained for stronger scents literally walks into a cloud of its target scent, while a dog trained for a weaker scent has to be directed because of its very short DAS, meaning that if not directed, the dog can miss the scent entirely.<br />
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The picture above attempts to show how a dog trained to a strong scent alerts to it.<br />
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The dog needs no major directing, as the scent will “come” to him, or to be precise, if it’s there the dog will walk into it.<br />
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He will start to give indications to the trainer, such as showing excitement.<br />
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The cloud of the scent is diffuse, it doesn’t have defined borders as it doesn’t come with a “molecule density counter” attached to it, so there will be a stage whereby the dog starts to react but doesn’t alert as he still needs to get that whiff of scent that will trigger his brain to alert. When he does find it, he will alert enthusiastically because to his brain that literally represents a pleasure.<br />
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As said, because the DAS is very short, a dog trained in a weak scent needs directing to find it. Unlike with the dog trained to strong scents, there’s no pre-alert excitement. The scent needs to be found, the dog needs to “go” to it. For that, it’s up to the trainer to indicate and make sure that no nook and crevice is missed. What the dog does is to confirm if at the spot indicated at the moment by the trainer, there is a source of the target scent or deny that there is one.<br />
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Please do not confuse indicating with cueing. The scent is weak, the dog’s nose needs to be directed to go literally inside the short DAS.<br />
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It’s up to the trainer to look at the scene and calculate the probabilities for locations of sources of a weak scent. He then starts to “ask” the dog if there’s a scent where he’s indicating and then registers the dog’s response.<br />
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The differences in terms of deployment between a dog that has been trained for strong scents and one for weak scents can be seen by watching Eddie and Keela in action in the Maddie case.<br />
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This is Eddie by deployed in 5A:<br />
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As can be seen, Martin Grime lets Eddie search for himself. Watching the video Grime does point out areas of interest to Eddie but this is done in order to for areas to be checked, not spots:<br />
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It can be clearly seen that the dog is not being directed to spots but areas. In fact, when both alerts happened the apartment, Grime is at a considerable distance from Eddie.<br />
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But with a dog trained with blood, the deployment is completely different. This is Keela in 5A:<br />
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With Keela he points to spots and not areas, he makes sure that those spots checked by the dog. He does allow Keela to also search on her own in order to allow her to find the scent where it did not occur to him.<br />
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Eddie and Keela are deployed in different ways in terms of “freedom of action”. And when it comes to being directed, areas are pointed out to Eddie, while Keela is directed to spots.<br />
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We would even say that their deployment actions are opposite to each other: with Eddie the priority is to let him search freely and then has areas pointed out to check, while with Keela the priority is to point her to spots over being allowed to search freely.<br />
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Just by this difference between the deployment for weak v string scents, one can see how ridiculous are those who have tried to defend the idea that because Eddie was, according to them, trained to alert to both cadaver and blood - which he was not - his alerts could have been to blood.<br />
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In fact, by the way Eddie and Keela are seen deployed, proves without any doubt that Eddie was not trained to alert to the scent of blood. Even if he had been trained to blood, which he wasn't, as shown, his reaction would be different to cadaver than it would be to blood.<br />
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A cadaver scent dog would alert to his target scent much further away from the source than one trained for blood.<br />
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From this, it can also be seen that unless there are present factors that may reduce the cadaver dog’s DAS, a cadaver dog alerts to his target scent to areas while blood dog, with or without those factors, only alerts to spots.<br />
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These factors, which we will see, may reduce the cadaver scent’s DAS to being so near the source, that the dog under those specific circumstances may indeed alert to the specific spot where the source is. This is however, exceptional, being the general rule that he alerts to areas.<br />
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On the other hand, the blood dog always alerts to spots. The circumstances that shorten significantly the DAS of a strong scent, don’t affect
significantly the DAS for a weak scent because shortening what is already short doesn’t alter what is
essential: a blood dog will always alert to specific spots and spots
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That means that even if a dog was trained for both cadaver and blood scents, then whenever he alerted to an area and not a spot, that would mean with absolute certainty that it was alerting to cadaver and NOT to blood. There’s absolutely no doubt about that.<br />
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If on the other hand, a cadaver dog alerts to a spot instead of an area, then it's up to the trainer to understand and explain the reasons as to why this is so. <br />
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<b>06. <u>Factors affecting DAS: Dog</u></b><br />
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There are various factors that may alter a DAS of a scent.We’ll start with the most obvious one: the dog.<br />
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A dog is a unique being and each dog has its own olfactory sensitivity.<br />
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The less sensitive a dog’s nose is in comparison with another, the greater the density of molecules that it’s required to trigger that dog’s nose, and so the nearer he has to be to the source. In the image above, dog A is less sensitive than dog B, so for that same scent the DAS for dog A is shorter than that of dog B.<br />
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The less the sensitive a dog is, the greater is the likelihood for there to be false negatives. This fact in no way alters the reliability of the dog’s alerts when he does alerts. The alert depends on the dog’s conditioning by training and not on his sensitivity. When he alerts to a scent it’s because the scent is there.<br />
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In fact, the dog being less sensitive than another would only make that dog’s alerts even more reliable as he would need the presence of a greater density of molecules of the scent to alert and that would make it more certain that the scent is there when he does alert. We say <i>“would only make”</i> that dog’s alerts even more reliable only because all dog alerts are 100% reliable and nothing can better that. But it does make the argument of denigrating a dog’s reliability on the grounds of being less sensitive to be significantly more ridiculous.<br />
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We have dealt with the dogs being 100% reliable in our post “<a href="https://textusa.blogspot.com/2019/07/blood-and-evr-dog-part-5.html" target="_blank">Blood and the EVR dog - Part 5</a>”. In that post we have explained that a dog can only be employed if he has a 100% record in not having given false positives.<br />
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In tests, some dogs
are more accurate than others in detecting scents, not in mistaking scents. This is about their sensitivity and not about their reliability.<br />
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We should clarify what is exactly we mean when we use the terms accuracy and reliability. Accuracy is the dog’s capacity in detecting a scent or false or true negatives and reliability the dog’s capacity to alert to the right scent, or true or false positives.<br />
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As we said in that post, false negatives - which have no effect in a dog’s reliability of alerting to the correct scent - go into the dog’s record, affecting negatively the dog’s accuracy record.<br />
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But to know that it’s a false negative, the handler must know where and when the dog missed alerting to a sample of the correct scent. Only dogs which are totally reliable are
used in the field. Dogs that have given false negatives - unreliable dogs that have alerted to wrong scents - cannot be used.<br />
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handler must be able to rely on the reliability of the alert. If handler
says the dog is only correct in, 85%, 90% or 95% of cases, any alert could be
attributed to the chance the dog was wrong and any defence lawyer will
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Another important thing about this factor is that it shows the non-importance that false negatives have.<br />
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They happen, and the fact that because a dog does not alert, it doesn’t mean that the scent isn’t there. It just means that there’s the possibility of it being there without the density required for the dog to alert. <br />
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<b>07. <u>Factors affecting DAS: Temperature</u></b><br />
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As we have said, volatility represents the number of airborne molecules that a substance releases into the air.<br />
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The amount of substance present obviously affects the number of molecules being released, so a difference in the amount of a substance will affect the length of the DAS. But quantity is not a factor affecting the DAS because it is a constant.<br />
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This is easy to understand, as 1 kg of a substance under the exact same conditions as 0.5 Kg of the exact same substance will always emit more airborne molecules, making the difference of their DASs a constant.<br />
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But under different conditions, this difference can be altered and even inversed. Note, it matters not what number of molecules is released but at what distance from the source is the level of density required to trigger the dog’s nose.<br />
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If a source emits furiously but due to circumstances, the molecules are quickly dispersed, then the DAS will be short, while another source may be emitting weakly but because the circumstances keep the molecules together, then the DAS may be extended further than usual.<br />
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Also, the same quantity of the same substance may have its strength of emission altered due to one simple factor: temperature.<br />
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The variation of the volatility of a substance alters its DAS. The volatility is the rhythm with which the substance releases its airborne molecules into the air.<br />
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The temperature of where the source is affects this rhythm. The same source in the same location will present different DASs according to the time of year. The hotter is the environment, the greater is the volatility, the longer is the DAS.<br />
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The same substance, the same dog, different DASs depending on the temperature.<br />
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<b>08. <u>Factors affecting DAS: Ventilation</u></b><br />
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The biggest factor that affects a DAS is without question ventilation.<br />
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Two sources, same substance and quantity, at the same temperature conditions may present completely different DASs for the same dog. All depends on where they are located and how ventilated is their particular locations.<br />
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The more ventilation there is, the more the molecules disperse, meaning that the density required to trigger a dog's nose, will be closer to the source. A very simple concept to understand.<br />
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This is very useful as we have seen, the shorter the DAS, the more precise is the indication of the location of the source.<br />
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As it happens, in the 3 alerts at the apartment 5A (bedroom, living-room and backyard) we had 3 different levels of ventilation, which give us different levels of precision in terms of where the respective physical source was located for each one of them:<br />
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In the backyard, because it is a very well ventilated location it’s very clear where the source was located. The EVR dog in this case, alerted to a spot, not an area.<br />
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In the living-room, a well ventilated location, the EVR dog no longer signals a spot but a well defined area, the one behind the couch.<br />
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Only in the bedroom is there doubt where the source may have been. We will analyse the alert in the bedroom in the following subheading.<br />
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<b>09. <u>Factors affecting DAS: No ventilation</u></b> <br />
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As we saw, ventilation affects the DAS of a scent by shortening it significantly. However, there’s another kind of ventilation that may lengthen the DAS and it is summed up by one word: concentration.<br />
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And to be precise, we’re speaking of the concentration of the airborne molecules away from the source. This happens due the movement of air, thus ventilation, in unventilated locations.<br />
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Up to now and with the exception of where we dealt with the ventilation factor we have spoken about the propagation of a scent evenly to all directions. The further away from the source the lesser the density of the molecules, in all directions.<br />
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Even when we introduced the ventilation, we maintained this principle. The further away from the source, in the direction the wind blows, the less density there is. Ventilation only makes the density of scent required to be closer to the source.<br />
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It does not alter the principle that the density decreases with distance as can be seen above.<br />
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In locations that are not ventilated, this principle may cease to happen because of a cumulative effect caused by small air currents, small movements of air.<br />
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This phenomenon is very familiar to people who have dogs or cats in their house.<br />
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The hair of their fur accumulates in areas that were not where it fell off the pet. The small drafts in a house, the movement of people inside it, push their fur towards less unventilated areas of the rooms, such as the corners of a room.<br />
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In the same way, in an unventilated area, the scent molecules may be pushed by small drafts of air, not enough to dissipate them like in ventilated areas but simply to push them along towards areas that are even less ventilated.<br />
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This will cause a cumulative effect which will invalidate that there is always a constant decrease in density of a scent with distance as in this situation there is an area with less density of scent molecules between the source and the area where the concentration happens due to the cumulative effect.<br />
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This will mean that in an unventilated location, it’s possible that where the dog alert may not be the location of the source.<br />
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Note, it doesn’t mean it’s not there. It just means it may be but also that it may not.<br />
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Logic dictates that the source is nearby. The reason is simple to understand: any ventilation will dissipate this concentration, so once there’s significant ventilation, for example doors being opened during the search, this will disperse such concentrations.<br />
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Only where there are unventilated corners of unventilated rooms does this phenomenon happen, meaning that even with the movement of the air caused by humans and by the dog itself, the concentration persists, meaning that the source has to be nearby.<br />
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Hopefully, readers will now be able to understand what <a href="http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm#mg2462" target="_blank">Martin Grime</a> means exactly when he said this, on this video as of 22:20:<br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i>“</i></span>[Standing in the corridor near the front door of apartment 5A]<span style="color: blue;"><i> Ok, what was done was we, we deployed the enhanced victim recovery dog into the apartment and by experience and the training of the dog, what I first noticed is that as soon as I came in that the dog is very excited and as a handler I can pick up his body language etc and it would appear to me that as soon as he has come in the house he's picked up a scent that he recognises and he has then gone through the apartment trying to source where the source, that scent source is coming from and as he has worked through the house the only two places where he picks up enough scent to give me the bark alert are in this bedroom… </i></span>[walks to the parents’ bedroom]<span style="color: blue;"><i> …in this corner where he was barking.<br /><br />What we have to be able to understand in a situation like this is that in a hot climate with the apartment being closed down, the scent will build up in a particular area. If there isn't a scent source in here, i.e. a physical article where the scent is emitting from, any scent residue will collect in a particular place due to the air movement of the flat, the apartment and what I would say in this case is that there is enough scent in that area there for him to give me a bark indication… but the source may not be in that cupboard, the source may well be in this room somewhere else but the air is actually pushing into that corner. But is strong indication and I would say it’s positive for the things that he is trained to find, which will be part of a separate debrief.”</i></span><br />
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There is one thing that people have overlooked when they read Martin Grime’s words above and that is to realise when they were said, and that was right after the actual search. It’s what is called a FIR, or a First Impressions Report. In this instance done verbally and on video.<br />
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Martin Grime speaks of a “separate debrief” which he’s to write later and which he does. Do note that on that written “separate debrief” he doesn’t mention this scent built-up or scent collecting in the bedroom. Why? Because after consideration he has deemed that this phenomenon did not happen in the bedroom otherwise he would have had to put it in his report.<br />
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The concentration due to unventilation is a phenomenon that does exist but it was not what happened in that bedroom, according, by omission, to Martin Grime’s final report.<br />
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We think there’s no doubt that Martin Grime is simply doing his job and covering all possibilities when faced in that scenario.<br />
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Our opinion is that finding odd that the dog would alert to cadaver scent inside the cupboard of the parents’ bedroom, knowing that in question was the disappearance of a 4 yr old girl, he sought to find a justification other than the body for the scent to be in that particular location.<br />
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He’s just pointing out to the police that upon analysing the location of the alert, an unventilated corner of an unventilated room, that the source of the scent MAY not be in that corner but somewhere else in that room and the alert happened there because it MAY have been pushed there due to the room and corner being unventilated.<br />
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This is corroborated by the fact that that he is specific about the alert in the bedroom. He doesn’t refer to this concentration possibility regarding the alerts in the living-room or backyard. There’s something to the alert in the bedroom that doesn’t happen with the other 2 alerts: the bedroom is unventilated.<br />
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Please do note that he does not invalidate that the source may be there in that corner.<br />
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But it’s his job to alert the PJ to the fact that without any other intelligence, that there was the possibility that the source would not be in that corner, or to be precise, in that cupboard, has to be considered.<br />
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However, it’s unequivocal that he states that the source of scent for that alert, if it’s not in the corner it’s in the bedroom.<br />
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By the way, we are of the opinion that the source was in the cupboard. And in a post where we will speak about the use of the dogs together, we hope to show why we have reasons to believe that Grime also had the same conviction we have.<br />
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<b>10. <u>Factors affecting DAS: Confinement</u></b> <br />
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We warn readers that this factor is quite relevant in the Maddie case, as we hope to show.<br />
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Confinement determines that if the source of a scent is confined to a space that has smaller dimensions than the scent’s DAS, then it’s obvious that the DAS becomes the dimensions of that space.<br />
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Imagine reader, that inside a cube there are 3 sources of the same scent inside a cube like in the image above.<br />
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Note that we have not mentioned the strength of the scent in question. For now it’s undefined on whether it’s a strong or weak scent.<br />
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If a dog is able to alert to the 3 sources that means basically one thing: it’s a dog trained for a weak scent. Not only is its DAS smaller than the dimensions of the cube, as the DAS is smaller than the distance between any 2 sources.<br />
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In such an instance, that would mean the scent was not confined to a limited space as its DAS was significantly smaller than the sides of the cube.<br />
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But what happens if the DAS of the scent is bigger than the dimensions of the cube? This does:<br />
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The 3 sources merge to become only one. For the dog, inside that cube there’s only source of the scent. He’s unable to differentiate the 3, for there’s only one and it’s the entire inside of the cube.<br />
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The 3 sources are there, they didn’t go anywhere. When it comes to a strong scent, due to the confinement factor, the dog is unable to point the locations of each of the sources, he can only indicate where the scent comes from, and it’s from inside it. He cannot be more precise than that.<br />
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Where did this confinement factor happen in the Maddie case? It happened in the exact same location for both the case of a strong scent (cadaver) as for a weak one (blood) and that “cube” was the Renault Scenic.<br />
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In terms of the cadaver scent, which is a strong one, the above happened, or the be precise for Eddie the entire inside of the Scenic was the “source” of the scent, the “entire inside of the cube”:<br />
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Those who have suggested that Eddie should have been taken inside the Scenic think they know more than Martin Grime, who being fully aware of how high was the profile of this case, was incompetent to not do that.<br />
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Martin Grime did not take Eddie inside the Scenic because he would not provide more information than the alert he gave: there was/were a source or sources of cadaver odour inside that Scenic. And that is all Martin Grime knew that Eddie was able to tell him.<br />
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But with blood, a weak scent, Keela was taken inside the Scenic:<br />
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Keela is a dog trained for a weak scent, blood. And Grime points spots to her to check inside the Scenic. He knows that a blood dog is not affected by the confinement factor, that factor only affects dogs trained to strong odours.<br />
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The confinement factor also causes something that happened in the Maddie case with Eddie.<br />
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If one imagines the cube above having a small leak on one of its side. This is what it would mean in reality:<br />
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This would make strong-scent dog alert to a spot instead of an area.<br />
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Above, due to the confinement factor, alerts are clearly to a spot on the Scenic’s door. The spot from where the cadaver scent from inside the Scenic is leaking out.<br />
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A spot that Keela did not alert to. To say that Keela did not alert because what was being alerted to was the key FOB that no longer was there when she searched the car, have to read up as the scent of blood would not have the strength to leak.<br />
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If the scent of blood had the strength to leak, making it then a strong scent which it isn’t, then Keela would not have been able to alert to spots inside the Scenic as she did.<br />
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Martin Grime doesn’t take Eddie inside because of the confinement factor but does take Keela in (and directs her to spots) because he knows this factor does not affect a weak scent, such as the scent of blood. <br />
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<b>11. <u>Probabilities of false alerts, denial of presence</u></b> <br />
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There is one last useful thing that can be taken from understanding the differences between strong and weak scents and the differences between the training and deployment of the dogs trained respectively and that is the difference of probabilities of false negatives between these 2 different kinds of scents.<br />
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As we have shown, the factors affecting the DAS basically only affect the DAS of strong scents. Doubling or halving the length of something long makes a difference, while doing the same to something that is very short is to keep it very short, which is what happens with weak scents.<br />
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They are affected in the same way as are the DAS for strong scents but in practical terms the way the length of the DAS of weak scents are affected can be disregarded.<br />
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This means that while with strong scents, there is always the possibility of there being false negatives. The location of where the density required to trigger a dog’s nose may be missed by the dog and that means a false negative.<br />
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Again we repeat, false negatives alter absolutely nothing about the reliability of the alerts. But there is one subtle and important deduction that has to be made of this: the fact that the dog does not alert does NOT deny the presence of the scent.<br />
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The alert confirms it but not alerting does NOT deny.<br />
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With weak scents, this is completely different.<br />
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The trainer points the spots to where the dog has to stick literally its nose. That means that with weak scents the only possible false negatives are the spots that the trainer overlooks to point out to the dog.<br />
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If the trainer points to a spot and the dog does not alert, that means DENIAL of a weak scent.<br />
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If a cadaver dog does not alert, that does not mean that the scent is not there but if a blood dog does not alert, then that means there is no source there.<br />
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<b>12. <u>Conclusions</u></b><br />
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Trains are not planes. Weak scents are not strong scents.<br />
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Weak scents, like blood are different from strong scents like cadaver and that means that the way detection is done by dogs for each of these scents is different for each of these 2 categories.<br />
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A strong-scent dog is expected to find areas, the weak-scent one, spots.<br />
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Understanding this is to understand that the dogs are deployed in different ways with different purposes even though both are being asked to sniff out target scents.<br />
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These differences make the castle of cards created by misinformers crumble that Keela is brought in to confirm Eddie’s alerts as they act independently.<br />
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We will deal with this in details in the next post, where we hope to write about the use of the dogs in tandem, focusing on the Maddie case.<br />
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For now, we will just say that to get from Lisbon to Reading, one knows that the best solution is to first take a plane to London and from there a train to Reading. But is that the only option? No, one can go from Lisbon to Reading just by train. It’s way more time consuming, probably much more expensive but possible.<br />
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And one can even not use planes or trains to go from Lisbon to Reading, one can simply drive using other alternative means of transportation, the car.<br />
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But whatever options there are, none are better, more efficient in terms of time and cost, than using first a plane and then a train. And one thing is certain, one cannot get from Lisbon to Reading with only using planes.<br />
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But it never crosses anyone’s mind to confuse trains with planes. And yet, even though silenced as of late, many pretending to fight for the truth really made the effort of convincing the people interested in the Maddie case that trains and planes were the exact same.<br />
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And before someone says that no one has stated that blood and cadaver were the same, to state as many have that it is and Eddie may have alerted to blood in the Scenic is to have stated exactly that, or in other words, saying that planes and airplanes are the same when it’s more than obvious they are not.<br />
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Only the idiots will be convinced they are and only the intellectually corrupt will try to do that convincing.</div>
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