Jules continues to fuel the hatred against the blog:
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1095693333203222528 00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x Replying to @rambojambo9 @EricaCantona7 and 41 others Textusa posted a horrendous item about a witness in PDL..A girl.. Claiming she had lied.. It was accompanied by a photo depicting her as a victim of child sex abuse.. Absolute no proof of course, but the girl was identifiable... That mattered not to Tex.. The weirdo.. #McCann 6:37 am - 13 Feb 2019
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These are the posts about TS, the child who was evidently told to lie. We used only initials because she was a minor:
We will leave it up to the readers to decide as to who was wrongful to this girl.
The images where TS “was identifiable” were taken from the Emma Loach’s 2009 Mockumentary, so totally their decision to have used the girl in the documentary.
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095675253085343744 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 No that is not the answer and you know it Are you basing your “theory” on searches from Malinka’s pc and are yup saying every search was pertinent to your theory ? It’s an easy enough question , for heavens sake 5:25 am - 13 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095698401986076673 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @Chinado59513358 @MrDelorean2 and 41 others So you are basing it on a search of someone’s pc, which presumably has nothing to do with the McCanns at all, but you are running with it anyway? You do know over half of them are completely innocuous, some are pertinent to golf and jazz clubs , if you look closely 6:57 am - 13 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095699868163678215 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @jules1602x @Chinado59513358 and 42 others There’s one about a swing on a pomegranate tree too. And sites describing their “ swinging , vibrant “ town, as in lively. I can’t believe this tenuous connection at all. No wonder Malinka wrote that book 7:03 am - 13 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095701031126814721 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @jules1602x @Chinado59513358 and 42 others I can’t believe they can base a search on a golf swing, or a playground. So Malinka, a local, looked for swinging at the end of the week, while the McCanns has been there for 5 days #unbelievable 7:07 am - 13 Feb 2019
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As predicted, Karen the Brunt promoter and who doesn’t know how to read the files, has tried to isolate the swinging searching in the computers to Malinka and only Malinka.
Hope readers noted her support to Malinka’s book that had the objective of maligning Sr Amaral and the PJ.
To this, the Frog has replied:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1095711997042311168 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Chinado59513358 and 41 others Big clue - all the searching is in English - not Sergey's first language. The serial number on the disc does not relate to any listed as taken from Malinka's house. (06-Processo Volume VI pages 1403 to 1405) http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA5_1/o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p814.jpg … 7:51 am - 13 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1095712940416815104 00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x Replying to @FragrantFrog @EricaCantona7 and 42 others Careful... Tex will have that down on his blog as a threat and possibly linked to 'scare tactics' 😒 7:54 am - 13 Feb 2019
“Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Threat":
Just read. Who (censored) these excuses for humanity? They won’t desist. No I don’t think they will… I guess their threat just consolidates to all the gigantic threat you are to them… otherwise why bother? (censored). I have no comprehension. Feel nothing but shame to come from the same land as them.
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 13 Feb 2019, 18:06:00 “
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Thank you so much for your support, it means a lot to all of us. Have censored your comment so we can all continue going on the high road.
If Jules is so worried bout TS being called a liar, then why doesn’t she call John Blacksmith of weirdo?
He has said very clearly that he doesn’t believe in Spottyman, and that means he doesn’t believe in TS. If he doesn’t believe in TS, then he’s calling her a liar.
We will follow this comment with the comments published in our post “The help and the tennis – comments continue V” http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-v.html
One person we know who doesn’t believe Spottyman/Pimpleman is real is John Blacksmith.
On his post “The Death of MancCannstein's Monster” published Wednesday, 21 March 2018: http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-death-of-manccannsteins-monster.html
“And then look at this, an internet collation of some of the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created, revelled in and thrust at us month after month, year after year as the truth of the world until Grange finally stopped them diverting the investigation any longer. But that is only their world, the McCann world.”
In the picture he publishes, one of the “vile, stinking, filthy images” is that of Spottyman/Pimpleman. This man: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01457/spotty_1457596i.jpg
He’s one of “the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created”, according to Blacksmith.
As far as we know, Spottyman/Pimpleman was created by Derek Flack, TS and an unnamed woman who appears in the 2009 Mockumentary and who we believe to be Jenny Weinberger.
There are no two ways about it. One either believes Spottyman/Pimpleman is real or one believes these 3 people lied.
We inform readers that we have published the following Post-Scriptum:
We are writing this Post-Scriptum because it contains an image we feel it’s important readers see it.
Blacksmith has reacted about us saying that he doesn’t believe that Spottyman is real.
This is what Blacksmith said in his post “The Death of MancCannstein's Monster” published Wednesday, 21 March 2018: http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-death-of-manccannsteins-monster.html
“And then look at this, an internet collation of some of the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created, revelled in and thrust at us month after month, year after year as the truth of the world until Grange finally stopped them diverting the investigation any longer. But that is only their world, the McCann world.”
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Now this is what he says he said when he said what he said above in NT’s blog:
“john blacksmith9 July 2018 at 09:04
Hello Sade. I've read your post, I've looked at Textusa's stuff and I haven't the faintest idea what she's talking about. I don't even know the statement that NT has been posting.
She asks if something called spottiman or whatever exists. How can a fucking drawing exist? The whole point of me pulling those various pictures off google images is that they have a consistency of appearance - sinister, threatening, ugly, childish, dark, menacing - which cannot be reconciled with real human beings but only with low-grade fictional creations. I then compared them with the thoroughly ordinary, tubby chap that the Yard states is a picture of the man Tanner saw.
I don't really feel like having to repeat everything 48 times for the dolts who can't follow an argument but still. The point of the post was that whoever might be accused or convicted of having something to do with the disappearance of the child in the future will not look anything like any of those visual monsters, reflections, by whatever means, of the McCanns' own childish and pathological imaginations, something I'll repeat again here. That's what the so-called "banality of evil" is all about.”
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As can be seen there are 4 people in the picture he has published: Tannerman, Spottyman, Raymond Hewlett and Pig-farmer man.
Tannerman has no facial features, so he cannot be “sinister, threatening, ugly, childish, dark, menacing”.
The Tannerman had the clear objective of drawing attention to what a man supposedly seen carrying a child on the night Maddie disappeared was wearing, so we cannot see where this conflicts with him being “reconciled with real human beings”.
In fact, the latest news is that he is a human being: Dr Totman.
Raymond Hewlett is not a drawing, so completely “reconciled with real human beings” and not a “low-grade fictional creation” and far from being “sinister, threatening” or “childish, dark, menacing”.
The Pig-farmer man, may not be a handsome man but the drawing is that of a human being. The Telegraph reported him to be Joaquim Agostinho: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576848/New-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-lookalike-found.html
“A Spanish loner who admits he resembles a sketch of a "scruffy" suspect in the search for Madeleine McCann has denied any involvement in the case. Joaquim Agostinho, who lives in the small seaside town of Altura, a 90-minute drive from Praia da Luz where the four-year-old disappeared, said the Portuguese police have not yet interviewed him.”
But it turns out that he was Joaquim José Marques, as per the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-510082/Revealed-Madeleine-photofit-man-jailed-raping-British-girl.html
Joaquim José Marques was one of the people heard by the PJ under the instructions of Operation Grange in Faro and was part of a list of people that Blacksmith released, with interesting accuracy, before the hearings took place.
Hewlett, Agostinho and Marques may be considered not handsome and may even be considered unattractive to the elitist eyes of some but they are human beings and certainly not fictional.
That leaves Spottyman of the pictures which Blacksmith considered to be “vile, stinking, filthy”.
However, Sopttyman is NOT a “vile, stinking, filthy image that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created”.
Spottyman is, supposedly, a creation by TS, Derek Flack and an unnamed woman who we believe to be Jenny Weinberger.
To say “She [Textusa] asks if something called spottiman or whatever exists. How can a fucking drawing exist?” and before having said “and I haven't the faintest idea what she's talking about. I don't even know the statement that NT has been posting” is to show an ignorance about the case quite incomprehensible for someone who has written frequently about the case for years.
Blacksmith is not a newcomer to the case.
If he now tries to say that only the poor have been targeted, that may be true for Hewlett and Pig-farmer man.
Dr Totman, the Tannerman/Creche Dad cannot have the word “poor” used to describe him.
No one knows the social status of Spottyman.
Who knows if one of these days a guest, just like Dr Totman has, won’t come forward and say he was the man seen by 3 people gawking at apartment 5A on the other side of the road of the entrance to Tapas, that he was the man seen hawking over the garden wall of that apartment by one of these witnesses and the man standing next to some bins quite far from 5A by another one?
A guest saying that he’s the man that neither the PJ nor Operation Grange have bothered to look for, and Blacksmith considers him to be just a drawing.
Can anyone tell us who is “the thoroughly ordinary, tubby chap that the Yard states is a picture of the man Tanner saw” Blacksmith speaks of?
But what matters is that what Blacksmith has said in his post and what he now says he said simply doesn’t match up.
It’s quite evident that Blacksmith is suffering from “Paddle Stump Syndrome”, or when one is up a dry creek WITH a paddle and is furiously and desperately back-paddling, in desperation one wears out the paddle to a stump without being able to change the direction of the canoe a single degree.
After having sunk his ship next to the Titanic whilst dining Chablis and lobster, he’s now asking the deep-sea fish directions to the Mariana Trench so he can push the wreck there and sink it a little more.
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1095693333203222528 00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x Replying to @rambojambo9 @EricaCantona7 and 41 others Textusa posted a horrendous item about a witness in PDL..A girl.. Claiming she had lied.. It was accompanied by a photo depicting her as a victim of child sex abuse.. Absolute no proof of course, but the girl was identifiable... That mattered not to Tex.. The weirdo.. #McCann 6:37 am - 13 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/The_Truth_II/status/1095785492975620096 The Ponce of Dubai @The_Truth_II Replying to @jules1602x @rambojambo9 and 42 others Sounds as bad as that strange man who for years has posted random little girls pictures claiming they are #MadeleineMccann 12:43 pm - 13 Feb 2019
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This is what the man, an expert in VIP swinging events and who says there couldn’t have been swinging because the McCanns didn’t bring the right clothes had to contribute to Jules’ accusation.
And another one who, together with Jules who believes that the 2009 Mockumentary is a true version of events. Both believe in the Spottyman. And both say they're anti.
We have Just been informed by a friend of the blog (thank you!) from where the question “Hey TEXT, didn't find the IRA quote?” comes from:
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1079971916939739136 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts This is just awful. https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/11/scare-tactics.html What was it the IRA said about getting Thatcher? #mccann XXX 9:25 pm - 31 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1080042852376289280 00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x Replying to @McCannFacts No shit Sherlock... 2:07 am - 1 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1080050396926787584 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @McCannFacts What does Lady T have to do with the drivel? 2:37 am - 1 Jan 2019
“Aftermath IRA statementEdit The IRA claimed responsibility the next day, and said that it would try again. Its statement read: Mrs. Thatcher will now realise that Britain cannot occupy our country and torture our prisoners and shoot our people in their own streets and get away with it. Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always. Give Ireland peace and there will be no more war. Thatcher's response Thatcher began the next session of the conference at 9:30 am the following morning, as scheduled. She dropped from her speech most of her planned attacks on the Labour Party and said the bombing was "an attempt to cripple Her Majesty's democratically elected Government": That is the scale of the outrage in which we have all shared, and the fact that we are gathered here now—shocked, but composed and determined—is a sign not only that this attack has failed, but that all attempts to destroy democracy by terrorism will fail. One of her biographers wrote that Thatcher's "coolness, in the immediate aftermath of the attack and in the hours after it, won universal admiration. Her defiance was another Churchillian moment in her premiership which seemed to encapsulate both her own steely character and the British public's stoical refusal to submit to terrorism." Immediately afterwards, her popularity soared almost to the level it had been during the Falklands War. The Saturday after the bombing, Thatcher said to her constituents: "We suffered a tragedy not one of us could have thought would happen in our country. And we picked ourselves up and sorted ourselves out as all good British people do, and I thought, let us stand together for we are British! They were trying to destroy the fundamental freedom that is the birth-right of every British citizen, freedom, justice and democracy."”
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Do Killa and her friends support what happened here?
One doesn’t need to be a fan of Thatcher to recognise this wasn’t a way forward politically and to use it as an example of what Killa would like to see happen to bloggers is vile and a threat Twitter should take seriously.
Somebody needs to rein in these people, this needs to stop!
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
For historic registry and whatever other purposes we find necessary:
https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1095965269497921536 China doll @Chinado59513358 I would like people to understand the seriousness of yesterday’s threat by Walker (Killa Dog) to Textusa. For some what seems like petty oneupmanship is deadly serious for others & must be done to expose these vile individuals. Thank you. #mccann 12:37 am - 14 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1095985558789083136 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts Replying to @Chinado59513358 Call the police? XXX #mccann 1:58 am - 14 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1096024995225059330 China doll @Chinado59513358 Replying to @McCannFacts You’re barking up the wrong tree with me Muttley. If anything happens to any of the Textusa team or their families, here is YOUR threat that YOU made to them in black & white for all to see. 4:34 am - 14 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096029516466716674 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts Replying to @Chinado59513358 I’m shakin’ in me boots Sunbeam. The Bore Text says he knows me, tell him (if you can stay awake) to go to the police. XXX #mccann 4:52 am - 14 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1096039660948779008 China doll @Chinado59513358 Replying to @McCannFacts Thanks for confirming who your threats were aimed at. 5:33 am - 14 Feb 2019
***** https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096051623900692482 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts Replying to @Chinado59513358 XXX 6:20 am - 14 Feb 2019
That is clearly a death threat to Textusa, this is seriously getting out of hand now, i hope the TexTusa team have kept them all and gives them to the police. keep up the fantastic work the team have done, so we finally got to the truth of why the McCann's have government protection, ....swinging. Thanks to TexTusa
That message is very clear to me Textusa, and we all know what happened to the I.R.A. your team have found out the truth!, Well done! try and ignore these comments off such uneducated specimens, lonely sad people that have nothing else to do but eat all day and make good decent people's lives hell on the internet. Thankyou.
By physically stalking the daughter of one of its authors and then be sufficiently sick to use to threaten both the stalking and an instance where MPs and relatives were killed and seriously injured, plus treating the subject as humorous:
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1079971916939739136 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts This is just awful. https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/11/scare-tactics.html What was it the IRA said about getting Thatcher? #mccann XXX 9:25 pm - 31 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1095674444343848960 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts Hey TEXT, didn't find the IRA quote? Here, I'll help you. XXX #mccann "Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always." 5:21 am - 13 Feb 2019
The fact that you are attempting not to see the obvious only means that you are trying to minimize what this person has done, and that just shows that you are one of those who supports this.
What makes you think your daughter was stalked because of this blog, and if you really did believe that to be the case, then why in God's name are you still writing it? You're only copying and pasting tweets, and being spiteful towards anyone who refuses to bow down to the vivid scribblings of a certified maniac. If any loving parent thought for one second their daughter was in danger, they certainly wouldn't place writing this shit over her safety. No, you have taken something that happened to your daughter and decided to use that for your own agenda. You're off your rocker if you think anyone in their right mind believes what you say. Get a fucking life!
In your own words, the stalking had the objective of closing down the blog. Thank you for confirming it.
"Writing this shit" is what guarantees her safety and of her family and rest of team members. They will only be in danger if the UK Government allows for that happen.
No, we don’t believe the UK Government cares about any of us. They may, or may not care for our opinions but that is not the point.
By the way, you do realise you are contradicting yourself, right? First you say everything the blog does is important to all these agencies but now you say the government has no interest at all. Which is it?
We do believe that the UK Government cares about itself and about its reputation on the international stage. We don’t think it says much about it and how they control an affair with the visibility of the Maddie case by looking that it resorts to scare tactics sinking low as in stalking a minor when doing that.
We can only take it that it was a rogue operation, and one that it is in the UK Government’s best interests that it doesn’t get repeated. If it was sponsored by the UK Government then it makes it look really bad, and that’s why we say it was rogue. It has to be rogue, it can only be rogue, only vile bastards would stalk a minor to scare off one of her parents to close down a blog.
The imbalance in the proportionality of the means used when compared the end result intended is staggeringly disgusting, so, again, it had to be rogue.
But it is something that happened and cannot be ignored. Nor can’t it be erased, it’s in the blog and many people have read it.
We call it the NotFrog effect. We will explain one of these days what this effect is and how important it is. By the way, NotFrog does not know what this effect is and s/he didn’t dream that s/he had an effect named after him/her.
In the NotFrog effect is what makes it to be in the best interests of the UK Government that the members of the blog and their families are kept safe. It’s in their interest.
What is all this stuff about personal appearances about? NotTextusa is obsessed by the subject, so is this you?
And how would you know about any of our legs? Or any other part of us? It does sound like how a stalker would talk to a victim. Are you showing that you have read the stalking operation report, is that it? Meaning that you were part of the rogue operation?
Thank you for your reply. Nobody has been physically stalked because of your blog though. You lied about that. You have created a parallel universe, one with secret agents and government employees threatening you. It's madness, and you either need to take all your "evidence" to the police or a psychiatrist. You are beyond doubt, criminally insane.
Yes, that myself and the vast majority of people can see that you're one sandwich short of a picnic. You're mad. Insane. Round the twist. Off your head. You've created a world that doesn't exist, and you're accusing many people of living lives they don't live.
https://twitter.com/grand___wazoo/status/1096138256700325896 The Grand Wazoo @grand___wazoo Replying to @PollyGraph69 @PhilipTann1961 and 42 others I “scrolled on” for ages. All I got was swinging ,swinging swinging! How far must I scroll before Carla’s sock & it’s disciples fade away and they stop trying to insinuate their bonkersville version of events based on SWF? #mccann 12:05 pm - 14 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/grand___wazoo/status/1096140011496443904 The Grand Wazoo @grand___wazoo Replying to @EricaCantona7 @PollyGraph69 and 42 others Unfortunately that contributes to the distruction of the tag! It’s now a mere mortal of the power force for justice it was a few years back. I’ve probably contributed too! The case is over! Continue to fight amongst yourself!! We all should be ashamed! #mccann 12:11 pm - 14 Feb 2019
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For literally years, paedophilia (and even child pimping), sedation, COMARE, death before 3rd, satanic cults, etc. were discussed and no one complained, no one asked for hard evidence. All was simply discussed.
Swinging finally breaches through the barriers that were set to stop it from being spread and all of sudden it’s all whining and wailing.
But when asked to state a theory, this is the reply:
https://twitter.com/PollyGraph69/status/1096144392509890560 Debbie Lee Perry @PollyGraph69 Replying to @grand___wazoo @EricaCantona7 and 42 others hi grando, can we talk about your theory please as to what you think happened to M #mccann and if you believe in the government protection, why do you think they get protection? in no way am i trying to be funny with you, im just wondering. Thankyou. 12:29 pm - 14 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/grand___wazoo/status/1096145024180457472 The Grand Wazoo @grand___wazoo Replying to @PollyGraph69 @EricaCantona7 and 42 others With all respect, I have tried talking to you, but you self-admittedly agree that you ‘cannot’ comprehend the ‘concept’. 12:31 pm - 14 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1096093858000240641 00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x So disgusting yet so true.. 😁Try shutting messenger down before taking SS and posting.. There are no stakes..Nobody is sinking.. Nobody is paid..It's Twitter you idiot.. Get a grip of your life FFS... #rumbled #moose #McCann https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzYbjKQWkAAzF61.jpg 9:08 am - 14 Feb 2019 [Picture attached is a screengrab of this tweet: https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1095700871919353857]
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“It's Twitter you idiot.. Get a grip of your life FFS...”
Jules seems to think that because it’s Twitter, there’s no civil or criminal responsibility involved in what one says there.
Jules’ who, allegedly (together with JBLittlemore), has reported the blog to Twitter because of infringement of copyright has failed to understand – very much like she has with what is in the McCannpjfiles site – what is meant by Twitter when it says that the tweets are owned by those who write them in their terms and conditions.
That declaration of ownership exists to defend Twitter against any lawsuits filed against the author of a published tweet. Twitter is saying clearly in the terms and conditions that it has no legal responsibility for whatever is written in a Tweet. It has the responsibility to monitor the contents in terms of common sense and decency and even with that responsibility by stating that the tweet is owned by its author, it exempts itself from any legal responsibility for the publication of whatever is published.
Twitter’s responsibility is only about the time an offensive publication remains published. That is where Twitter holds responsibility as it has the responsibility to monitor content.
Let us pass a message to all from Nuno Markl, a very well-known radio personality in Portugal. https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Markl
Markl is an extremely good guy. He has made a career by self-assuming and exploring his goofiness. His listeners laugh with his delightful personal stories which have a common thread: he’s a lovable misfit.
Markl is one of those people everyone thinks has no enemies. However, someone online decided to threaten him and his family anonymously. Out of concern for his family then for himself, Markl went to the police.
He did say how long after but I can’t remember, but if it wasn’t the next day it was the day after that he received a call from the police to go to the station to press charges against the man who had threatened him.
I will write his words in Portuguese (Jules is supposedly fluent so she’ll have no problem in understanding them) so that our Portuguese readers can identify how they came from him: “Eh pá, o que mais me admirou foi a facilidade com que apanharam o gajo! Para essa gente que pensa que pode ameaçar e pensa que passa despercebido, eh pá, vocês nem imginam o quanto fácil é! A polícia mostrou-me e aquilo é mesmo fácil, pá!”
That’s the message we are now passing on to those who think that because it’s Twitter and because they are behind a keyboard, think they can write whatever they want and they won’t be caught.
Markl showed how good-hearted he is because he was touched by the tears of a frightened man in front of him and thought that the humiliation had been enough punishment. He asked if he had to press charges, the police said that he didn’t and he didn’t.
Now, to all those keyboard warriors who think because they have the big guns protecting their backs, your protectors have already given you an example of how far they are willing to go to protect you: the McCanns in early September 2007.
Then, even Martin Brunt went for the McCanns’ throats, remember?
When truth comes out, who do you think will be demonised? You think your protectors won’t use you to protect themselves? Well, if you are naïve enough, please continue in that illusion.
As we have said in the blog, walking with lions is not to be a lion but only their food at an arm’s length. Or even shorter than that.
So it’s not “it’s only Twitter”. IT IS Twitter. What is said there has legal implications. And ownership of responsibility.
And when the time comes and one fits the shoes for bait to distract a lynching mob, then we recommend that those who feel they may be used as bait to start practicing running. Get in shape.
Remember, one doesn’t have to run faster than the crowd, one just has not to be the slowest moving target. And when the slowest target is swallowed by the mob, again then one has not to be the slowest moving target. And so on, until the mob’s thirst is quenched. The irony is that the thirst was created and fed by those who will be bait to quench it.
And those who need distraction will throw in as much bait as they need to protect themselves.
About Jules’ concern about the well-being of minors, we remind readers that when a minor, a daughter of one of the members of the Textusa team was stalked this was Jules’ concerns about her (comments from Not Textusa’s blog):
“Jules..28 November 2018 at 11:39 Strange how Tex has edited that post since yesterday and removed the police report and certain things. If the 'sister's' are unknown then how it can be connected to the case.. “
“Jules..28 November 2018 at 16:38 I see Tex has edited the post again but it's still not back to it's original form...No doubt an anonymous will have saved a copy minus certain things.. Vile person.. How low can one go.. “
That clarifies completely the regard this Jules person has for minors. Jules belief that we invented the episode when a team member’s daughter was stalked says more about her than us.
We have one more question to Jules for now. Very simple and very straightforward, almost a yes or no one: do you believe in Spottyman?
It’s a case related factual question.
We ask you this for this reason: the name “Spottyman” was given by the tabloids. But they didn’t pull it out of a hat. They called him Spottyman because there’s a statement in the files that mentions he had spots, or pimples, and that he was ugly, even ‘disgusting’.
That statement is that of TS: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm
In Portuguese (for Jules and Karen Sanders, this is what is written in the ORIGINAL PJ Files): “Não tinha barba, nem bigode, estando escanhoado. Não tine outros sinais particulares, além de algumas borbulhas pequenas no rosto em resultado do barbear. Tinha um aspecto feio, até mesmo nojento”
Translation in the McCannpjfiles (For Jules and Karen Sanders, this was not written by the PJ, this is just the translation on the website of the original above and not what the PJ wrote in the files): “No beard, no moustache, a clean shave. No other special signs, apart from some small pimples on the face as a result of shaving. He looked ugly, even 'disgusting'.”
Our translation: “Didn’t have a beard, nor moustache, being shaven. Didn’t have other particular signs, other than some small pimples on the face as a result of shaving. He had an ugly aspect, even 'disgusting'.”
We would say that the Mccannpjfiles translation is perfectly acceptable and accurate.
TS is the only witness who mentions pimples or spots in the PJ Files. That’s FACT. Thus, it’s from her statement where the name Spottyman comes from.
So we ask you again, do you believe that the man who EVERYONE ridiculed in 2009 and no one has ever mentioned again as a person of interest since, is real? Yes or no?
Because if you say no, you will be calling TS a liar, so which is it? Oh, forgot to add, a genuine question.
What on earth does a picture of GA in Messenger have to do with anything? Maybe it's the same as a "DM" people are supposedly getting saying they are a "target"? Don't all DMs show the originator/sender? Why is she making out, once again, that she is privvy to info no-one else has seen? A ridiculous attempt at attention seeking it seems!
Now go wash your mouth, you're not worthy to mention his name. In fact, you disrespect him and his family and their suffering whenever you mention his name to pursue your agenda, which was what harmed him. You're disgusting.
By trying to disprove/diss Amaral's thesis you are calling him a liar. GA. Neglect. Sedation. Concealment of body. And his suspicions of 'bath time' You are, with respect, trying to dispute every single one Textusa which means you are in fact calling him a liar and wrong? Aren't you?
I am not the above user, I agreed with the user, can't you tell the difference? We aren't all the same person I thought? But, if you like I will say, if Amaral believes what he does as per my above points and you are dissing that and his knowledge and claiming surely he must be in on the cover up to not have put your swinging thesis/theory in his book too? Despite the dangers he faced writing it in the first place? Distinction then please? From you I mean.
Morning.. Genuine question.. Would you like to discuss this over a glass of New Zealand White.. ? I'm in a town near you from the 22nd.. I promise not to wear heels.. My shout..
I have done so and you should surely know what EXACTLY Amaral's thesis is by now? Haven't you read 'The truth of the lie?' Or watched his amazing documentary then?
Both the book and the documentary were to show that the McCanns and their friends were not telling the truth about that night and not to pursue a theory about what happened.
There is a difference between 'Theory' and 'Thesis' Can you explain why you are dismissing his summary? And not answering my fair points whatsoever. Sedation. Bath time. Neglect. Concealment.
Sedation, please quote from the PJ Files or elsewhere (Silverdoe found an interview where he states that Maddie could have been under-drugged) that he or the PJ think Maddie died because of over-sedation. If he believed in it, and passed this belief to Mr Rebelo why is there no mention of sedation in the Final Report?
Bath time. This was after Mr Amaral left the investigation. Please explain why the Portuguses police requested the Gaspar statements. Before you say Mr Amaral had made a similar request, he did and it was about Greece and he got no reply. He leaves the investigation on Oct 2 and the Gaspar statements are sent a few weeks later “as per request”. Why did the UK send them? Doesn’t that look like a blatant red herring? It does to us. Mr Amaral wants the Gaspar statements FULLY investigated, so do we.
Please quote Mr Amaral where he has said he BELIEVES in neglect. Note, as we have asked of Andy Fish, him saying “they said they left the children alone…” does not qualify as his belief but as echoing what he was said. From his words he implies that he believes the twins were sedated on the night of May 3. So do we.
Body-concealment, please say where we disagree with Mr Amaral. We say that the parents helped conceal the body. We only want to know who helped them as they were strangers in a strange land. We believe Mr Amaral would like to know too.
I said Amaral's book, not PJ files. Does it matter where he states his thesis? You use MSM as proof I:e Crosslands 600 people so please, this is your opportunity here, Concealment was within the thesis as you full well know? Prove me wrong. On all of my points. Did Amaral say there was neglect? Did Amaral say there was sedation? Did Amaral mention bath time? It matters not WHEN he said it but he did. Do you think you know more than Mr Amaral did to be suspicious of his reasons why he came to his conclusions? These are what YOU should finally be answering and putting to rest. Or do we all go with - No neglect = No abduction. No sedation. And swinging because you say so? Which IS in fact imo going against Mr Amaral's truth.
One correction, you say "You use MSM as proof I:e Crosslands 600 people"
No we don't use that as proof. We have never stated how many people were there.
We said Mr Crosland said 600 and we said we have no reason to disbelieve him. That does not make it a proven fact. Yes, it could be true but needs corroboration.
What we have said and proved it is the numbers that appear on the Ocean Club booking sheets do not add up. http://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/09/missing-people.html
That means that they were tampered with. And that in turn means that with the available information it's impossible to say how many guests were indeed there.
So, Why are people stating 600 people as fact then? When you are admitting, quite rightly, it needs corroboration? Shouldn't you be making that clearer to your readers who then tweet/promote it as a factual figure? No, what the 'numbers' mean is this. There's missing pages in the files. Simple. Surely?
We're responsible now for what people state? By the way, the only ones stating it are critics of the blog, namely Killa K Dog and JBLittlemore.
No, there are no missing pages. The names are in alphabetical order daily and there are no missing pages for each of the days handed over. The numbers don't add up daily.
The Gaspar statements were sent in October. Are you suggesting on a highly sensitive case, a such high profile case with literally the world watching the PJ would request something in July and be only sent in October? Seriously? https://textusa.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-brit-snitch.html
If you wish to be known as 'truthers' then yes, you are responsible when your readers take what you say when you say it without making yourself, imo clearer. And you are wrong about the missing pages. Are you suggesting that the UK and PJ shouldn't have been, couple with Yvonne Warren Martin's statement ALARMED at the Gaspar's and fully investigated like Amaral said he would have done? Do you know why DP only has 2 statements in the files? nexo missing from DVD WITH THANKS TO ALBYM
DVD location: "Outros Apensos"File: "Relatorio de analise dos primeiros 11 volumes" Missing pages from detailed activity analysis reports 1 - Anexo 17: Analysis of first round of witness statements
Then surely you can call the OC and find out rather than surmise? Or the PJ or someone within your research? And more missing pages from the files.... 01 TO 14 Analysis September 2007 02-09-OUTROS APENSOS II (FILE 09) pages 01 to 14
WITH THANKS TO INES From the Brigade for Information Analysis report: At about 23.30 a white fair haired man aged about 30, one of the friends of the McCann group was seen by Valerie Kerr and her family when he asked them if they had seen Madeleine. They were near to the chapel. Valerie and Laura returned to their apartment, changed clothes and went to help with the search. No statement from the Kerr family in the files
4692 to 4706 - Letter to the Tribunal from lawyers acting for ACPO 17 Processos Vol XVII Pages 4692 - 4706 WITH THANKS TO INES 4692 to 4706 - Letter to the Tribunal from lawyers acting for ACPO Letter from lawyers representing British police forces requesting that certain documentation from UK police files be withheld from the DVD for public release.
You do realise you just made a fool of yourself, right?
We were discussing there being missing pages in the adding up of the number of guests. There could be a missing page that would justify the discrepancies in the adding up.
There are no missing pages in the Ocean Club booking sheets.
About those pages: http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/01/debunking-urban-myths-unpublished-pj.html
The fact that documents are mentioned doesn't mean they were considered relevant to be included in the files to be submitted for dispatch.
You don't agree with PJ's decision about what to include and not include in the files, your problem. No one is hiding anything.
Where did I make a fool out of myself? I said there ARE missing pages, where was I wrong? I claimed nothing against the PJ YOU did - Can you also btw clarify, did the PJ officers/GNR officers search for Madeleine on the 4th? http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MISSING_PAGES.htm
I am not accusing anyone of anything other than let's not go with myths, let's go with facts and come to hopefully a mutual agreement here? Did I lie when I said there were missing pages in the files? Did I lie when I said what Amaral's book stated and what Amaral believes? Or said needs investigating? If so, please, prove where.
“Did I lie when I said there were missing pages in the files?”
You were wrong. If you lied or not only you will know. There are NO MISSING pages. We have explained this very much in detail.
The handwritten numbering is in sequence and there are NO MISSING numbers (before you assume that there are, wait until we are finished to understand EXACTLY what we mean).
There are some pages which were withdrawn from the disclosed files. These pages are NOT MISSING, they exist is the original PJ File which is archived somewhere in the PJ facilities. These are UNDISCLOSED pages. All pages withdrawn have been explained by the PJ.
There are various documents mentioned that don’t appear in the files. Mrs Fenn’s niece first statement for example, which we were the first to notice that it was not in the files, is NOT MISSING from the files because that statement was never a part of them. The UK authorities didn’t send her statement and her photofit. Yet, they are mentioned in the files.
Same thing with the Raj Balu and Neil Berry first statements. Mr Amaral has written in his book that he knows they were heard in the UK and the British police concluded that they were of no interest so it didn’t send them. This is a subjective call. The British police may have made the right decision, we don’t know. If they said they saw nothing suspicious then their statements had indeed no interest or relevance and so were correctly not sent. Note, their questioning derives from the playground photo where Raj Balu appears in the background with a very flexible ankle.
The point is these statements were deemed not relevant, they were not sent and that all has been explained and they are NOT MISSING from the files.
There appears to be other documentation mentioned, such as annexes and analysis, that would seem likely to be part of the files. Only those who have seen them know their content but the fact that they are not in the files means they were considered to contain information already in other documents or simply not relevant for the decision. That simple. They are NOT MISSING.
So to be clear, there are NO MISSING pages. As we said, only you know if you lied or not but one thing is certain, henceforth if you repeat that there are missing pages then yes, you will be lying.
What is the difference between an UNDISCLOSED page and one that is NOT part of the PJ Files, wherever it may now be archived or not? The UNDISCLOSED has legal value the others don’t. When the process was put together to be subject of a dispatch, ONLY the documents that were included have legal value.
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“Did I lie when I said what Amaral's book stated and what Amaral believes? Or said needs investigating?”
Again, you were wrong about what he believes. And that is the entire point.
We remind you that this all started with the vile, ridiculous, false and misleading accusation of “You've said Goncalo Amaral is part of the cover up”. In quotes so that it’s not in the least misinterpreted.
Imagine being a newcomer to the case and reading that, said with such certainty. What would you think of the blog?
No one (except Isabelle McFadden who says she knows) knows in what GA believes.
GA as pulled off the investigation because he was on his way to the discovery of the truth. What don’t people understand about this very simple and straightforward concept? If he was taken off when he was on his way to the truth then that means he doesn’t know the truth. He was driven off that road on October 2.
Now, the question that has to be asked is how far up the path of truth was he when he was driven off? Our opinion is that he was only on the first step: proving the McCanns were lying. He may have been further down the road or not, we don’t know as he hasn’t revealed it because his fight has been focused on this first step and first step only.
So one must make a time division when it comes to GA and what he has to say about the case. About what happened up until October 2 his word is as near as gospel as can be, not forgetting that he’s human but about what happened after October 2 he may have some privileged information (which we will explain why) but the beholder of the “gospel” is Mr Rebelo.
We have been shown such an example, when he says the Gaspar statements arrive in the middle of some papers: “in Portugal via .... by mail, no, by fax, under other papers, and these statements came loose from the others [e que vêm soltas essas declarações] and what someone from the British Police does is, here are these statements and now you investigate, [you, PJ] question.”
We know they did not come under any other papers, they came by request. This shows ignorance on the part of GA about how the statements arrive. Is saying this disrespectful to GA? No but saying that he would know is very disrespectful to… Mr Rebelo.
Those who say the PJ shared information – as in under the table – about the case with GA after he was taken off the case is making a very serious allegation against Mr Rebelo. If GA was no longer part of the investigation then to share anything with him – outside the circumstances we will detail next – is to accuse the investigation and its leader of committing a crime.
Now, could GA have seen the Gaspar statements, when off the investigation? Yes, he could. He was an active duty PJ officer who had been involved in the investigation so it would be the most natural and logical thing to do to ask his opinion on the Gaspar statements. Sharing the information over the table, not under it and speculating we would even say that Mr Rebelo may have said something like “This came with same papers, do you know anything about this?” and handed over the statements for GA to read. We remind you that we are speculating.
Back to what GA believes in or not. As we said we do not know. His book and his appearances on TV both in documentaries and interviews have all one thing in common: the desire to prove that the McCanns lied. That’s only the first step of that long road to the truth.
Other than that, he’s not committed himself to ANY theory or thesis.
GA also spoke of the possibility of M being cremated with the remains of an old lady. This isn’t mentioned in PJ files, nor is it stated by him as a fact.
It’s stated as a possibility based on what somebody had reported to somebody else.
We were told privately at the time that people had been seen entering the church with a bag, but no original source for this report was given at the time and we didn’t mention it as it was told in confidence and because there was no evidence to support it.
We don’t agree with this possibility, does this mean we think that it shouldn’t be investigated? Of course not, like GA, we think we all should be investigated.
He that is what he has asked that all be investigated. And we agree with him. For example, when he mentions the bath time, he asks for it to be investigated. Does that mean he believes in it? To say he does or that he doesn’t, would be to distort his words. He finds it worthy to be independently and politically courageously investigated and demands that happen, so do we.
He demands a reconstruction, so do we. Is it to prove any theory or simply to prove that the McCanns lied? The last and only the last. To state otherwise is not only to lie as it is to be disrespectful to the man.
So when you say “Or [GA] said needs investigating?” we ask you to name one thing he has said heeds to be investigated that we have said that it shouldn’t.
What will he do once he’s able to prove the McCanns lied? We don’t know, only he does. What theory will he put forward, again, only he knows.
So to be clear all those who fill their mouths with “I’m with GA” all they are saying is that they support he believes the McCanns are liars. Likewise, all those who say that we are against GA, are saying that we believe that the McCanns are telling the truth.
The debate around the BRT, shows who is defending what the McCanns have said, if it’s those who say they are with GA but believe in what the McCanns have said or us who don’t fill our mouth with his name but say the McCanns are lying.
Saying we’re against GA, or even go as far as saying we have said he’s part of the cover-up is to simply mislead, to turn people against the blog and to establish an appropriation for themselves of his name to serve their agendas.
Those saying that GA believed there was a BRT we ask for a quote. We have asked before and no one has provided anything. In his book he has put an arrow pointing to a table that clearly does not sit 9/10/11 people. Is GA stupid? Couldn’t he see that the table he points to doesn’t sit that many people? Of course, he does. That arrow is not pointing to the BRT but simply to the location where the Tapas staff told the PJ where the table had been. Then, no one questioned the honesty of the Tapas staff, so even though a small table that happens to be where the “other” table had been was taken as a coincidence. That arrow says “the group sat here” and not “the group sat at this table”.
Amaral has NEVER Wavered from his thesis of his book. I have proven ENOUGH of his thesis - THAT'S why I wouldn't give you 'his theory' Always you try to twist words and produce half posts;. You know no more than we do, end of story. You are SURMISING - But oh yes, there are missing files, you can ignore that all you wish, belittle me for it all you wish, but there IS missing files. You need to realise that people get angry when others try to disprove HIS thesis's and you know full well the case was archived so they couldn't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt so that's what you are now using to claim otherwise. That's hardly supporting him IS IT? Thank you for answering but I will be blunt and just say this. YOU ARE WRONG.
1. Could you please indicate where you "have proven ENOUGH of his thesis"
2. "THAT'S why I wouldn't give you 'his theory'". You proved ENOUGH of his thesis and that's why you wouldn't give me his theory? Where is the sense in that? And shouldn't his theory be so public and known that you would simply just rub it on our faces to prove your point? You know he has not put out any theory and that's why you even wrote as 'his theory'.
3. Please quote us where we said GA has wavered from his thesis in the book.
4. "there IS missing files". Now you're lying. There are documents we know to exist and that are not part of the files and there are many reasons, as we have explained, for that to have happened. Those that passed through the hands of the PJ are not there because they were not considered relevant. Those that didn't pass through their hands and that if they had would be considered relevant, that's the responsibility of those who didn't send them to the PJ. No missing files. Whoever made the dispatch HAD to have ALL the documentation required to make his decision. The PJ HAD to give him ALL that documentation. Saying there are missing files is to disrespect the PJ by calling it incompetent.
Either way, the documents that are not in the files, currently have no legal value. They may have and may be put in the files of the current investigation but that has to be justified. And "sorry I forgot to send it in 2007/2008 is not a valid legal justification".
5. When are you going to answer the Hynd's question? Or is that not fact?
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1096394742408138752 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Chinado59513358 and 41 others It doesn't help her one iota. but it does show that China doesn't support Amaral's thesis, which is a start in altering negative public perception. 5:04 am - 15 Feb 2019
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China doll has this written on his/her Twitter profile “Proud supporter of the Textusa team & their insightful blogs. I admire Carla Spade & Whispering for their continued dedication to exposing the truth of the lie.”
Now the tactic is, which the comments above have shown very clearly, to push the idea that we’re against Mr Amaral.
The Frog is now helping the push. The Frog! Someone who has called GA a torturer uses China doll to convey the idea that we don’t support him. Seriously, have the tactics got so muddled up that our critics have reached this chaotic point?
You prove to me that I am wrong with Amaral's thesis? You know, the one within the supreme court ruling? YOU said ''Theory'' I was the one who corrected YOU with ''THESIS'' So please, stop with the word play game? There's enough evidence out there as in interviews where GA states enough for us ALL to know what he thinks and what he surmises. Do your own research and as for the Hynds? Why are you so fixated on them/that? It proves NOTHING before the 3rd and wouldn't your VIP have bolted by then as YOU claim is the cause for this? And don't be foolish enough to think that the PJ would have held back VITAL information because the case was ARCHIVED And NOT closed, so don't play silly buggers there either. Every single case would hold that VITAL information back. I got that information from a lawyer at chambers in London PERSONALLY. The case was ARCHIVED - Not closed. There's the difference with normal cases. But seeing as you refuse to do your own research properly, here's the supreme court ruling points ON Goncalo Amaral's THESIS in HIS book. Enjoy....
A first conclusion is that if the book is about an hypothetical checking of the facts or about the opinion of the author on how the evidence collected in the investigation should be read, one shouldn't speak of falsehood, untrue facts, and it doesn't make sense, without a better understanding, to discuss the "exceptio veritatis" (truth exception).
The means of obtaining evidence and the evidence referred to in the book are those of the criminal investigation and most of the facts that the book is concerned with (as well as those referred to in the documentary and interview), when related to the criminal investigation, are mostly facts that occurred or are documented in the investigation (n° 80 of the proven facts).
In our view, the issue, in this trial, is the exercise of the right of opinion by the defendant in that context.
This kind of view is, moreover, evident in the final conclusions of the book when the author himself says : For me and for detective inspectors who worked with me on the case up to October 2007, the results we have reached are as follows:
1. The minor Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5a of the Ocean Club, in Vila da Luz on the night of May 3, 2007;
2. A kidnapping simulation occurred;
3. Kate Healy and Gerald McCann are suspected of involvement in hiding the corpse of their daughter;
4. Death may have resulted from a tragic accident.
5.There is evidence of negligence in the guard and safety of the children (n° 24)." In either supports - book, interview, documentary - the presented thesis aims to be perceived as the real narrative of events, compared with the initially sustained in the investigation and by the claimants mediated abduction theory. The same thesis is still held as the truth that is hidden behind shelving determined by political reasons and subservience to the British authorities. On the 1st of May, Madeleine cries for an hour and 15 minutes, between 10:30 and 11:45pm - and cries for daddy. She only stops when her parents get back home.
I suggest you re-read the supreme court ruling..... IF You support Amaral would I need to make these points btw?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id137.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKLaxawUmx What more do you want? You aren't coming off good you know keeping on 'Challenging me' here with Amaral's Thesis. You do realise that don't you? I think we ALL know who China is, time will reveal all.... Why does it bother you so much that I support Amaral? This is all very worrying you know Textusa.
From Mr Amaral’s book Chapter 23, pgs 212 to 214. In Portuguese:
“Um desaparecimento, uma janela e um cadáver Aqui chegados importa fazer uma síntese dedutiva sobre este caso. Ou seja, rejeitar o que é falso; afastar o que não se pode provar, por insuficiente; dar como válido e adquirido aquilo de que se fez prova. Assim: 1. A tese do rapto é defendida desde a primeira hora pelos pais de Maddie; 2. No seio do grupo, apenas os seus progenitores declaram ter observado a janela aberta no quarto da menina desaparecida; a maioria não pode testemunhá-lo fielmente por ter acorrido ao apartamento já depois de ter sido dado o alarme; 3. O único depoimento externo ao grupo que refere a janela aberta e os estores levantados, é o de Amy, uma das educadoras do Ocean Club, que aponta a sua observação para cerca das 22h20/22h30, logo, bastante depois de ser dado o alarme e não provando que aquela assim estivesse aberta à hora em que o ocorreu o crime; 4. O conjunto de depoimentos e testemunhos evidenciam um elevado número de imprecisões, incongruências e contradições — o que poderá ser tipificado, em alguns casos, como falsos testemunhos. Em particular, o depoimento-chave para a tese do rapto, o de Jane Tanner, perde toda a credibilidade por ter evoluído sucessivamente ao longo de vários momentos, tornando-se ambíguo e desqualificando-se; 5. Há um cadáver não localizado, constatação validada pelos cães ingleses EVRD e CSI e corroborado pelos resultados laboratoriais preliminares. Para mim e para os investigadores que comigo trabalharam no caso até Outubro de 2007, os resultados a que chegámos foram os seguintes: 1. A menor Madeleine McCann morreu no Apartamento 5A do Ocean Club, da Vila ds Luz, na noite de 3 de Maio de 2007; 2. Ocorreu uma simulação de rapto; 3. Kate Healy e Gerald McCann são suspeitos de envolvimento na oculatção do cadáver da sua filha; 4. A morte poderá ter sobrevindo em resultado de um trágico acidente; 5. Existem indícios de negligência na guarda e segurança dos filhos.”
Our translation with our notes:
A disappearance, a window and a corpse
Arrived here, it is important to make a deductive summary about this case. That is, to reject what is false; to remove what cannot be proven, because insufficient; to give as valid and acquired what has been proved.
So:
1. The thesis of the abduction is defended from the first hour by Maddie’s parents; [blog fully AGREES]
2. Within the group, only their parents report having observed the open window in the room of the missing girl; the majority cannot faithfully testify to him for having gone to the apartment already after the alarm had been given; [blog fully AGREES]
3. The only statement external to the group that refers to the open window and the blinds raised is that of Amy, one of the nannies of the Ocean Club, who points to her observation to about 22h20/22h30, a while after the alarm had been given and not proving that it was open at the time the crime occurred; [blog fully AGREES]
4. The set of statements and testimonies show a high number of inaccuracies, incongruities and contradictions - which may be typified, in some cases, as false testimonies. In particular, the key statement to the abduction thesis, that of Jane Tanner, loses all credibility for having evolved successively over several moments, becoming ambiguous and disqualifying itself; [blog fully AGREES]
5. There is a corpse not found, finding validated by the English dogs EVRD and CSI dogs and corroborated by the preliminary laboratory results. [blog fully AGREES]
For me and for the investigators who worked with me on the case until October 2007, the results we reached were the following:
1. The minor Madeleine McCann died in the Apartment 5A of the Ocean Club, in the Village of Luz, the night of May 3, 2007; [blog fully AGREES]
2. A simulation of abduction occurred; [blog fully AGREES]
3. Kate Healy and Gerald McCann are suspect of involvement in the concealment of their daughter's corpse; [blog AGREES]
4. Death may have come as a result of a tragic accident; [blog AGREES, although we don’t say it “may”, we believe it did come as a result of a tragic accident. Note that Mr Amaral does not detail what kind of an accident it was.]
5. There are indications of negligence in the guarding and safety of the children. [blog fully AGREES. There are LOADS and LOADS and then some LOADS more (even Gerry saying that they didn’t check every 15minutes but only every 30 minutes) of negligence indications. People may look up what a red herring is. Mr Amaral does NOT say he believes in negligence, he says there are indications of it and we fully AGREE]
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Can you or anyone please provide quotes where the blog stands against Mr Amaral?
“And don't be foolish enough to think that the PJ would have held back VITAL information because the case was ARCHIVED And NOT closed, so don't play silly buggers there either. Every single case would hold that VITAL information back. I got that information from a lawyer at chambers in London PERSONALLY.”
Are you suggesting they would have had vital information that would influence the decision of archival and held it back. Are you really being serious?
Don’t you have a brain to think that ALL information was given to the decider for him to decide, and if there was some kind VITAL information that they felt should not be disclosed they would have withdrawn it as they factually did with some, which has been explained?
That the files would be disclosed and that VITAL information wouldn’t have been made public?
Did you know that in Portugal to protect information that was within a process, it was ordered that parts of pages be literally cut with scissors before disclosure?
Maybe tell you lawyer friend to go to Portugal and drive on the left side of the road.
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“Do your own research and as for the Hynds? Why are you so fixated on them/that? It proves NOTHING before the 3rd and wouldn't your VIP have bolted by then as YOU claim is the cause for this?”
Noted you have not answered AGAIN the question.
We are fixated because if one does not believe that the Hynds drank as much as the Tapas sheets say they did then the Tapas sheets contain a lie. If they contain a lie then they are not reliable. If they are not reliable then nothing the Tapas staff has said about the dinners there, by the T9 or anyone else is reliable.
Now, do you believe the Hynds did drink as much as it is said in the Tapas sheet for May 4? It’s a yes or no question.
At last, we finally agree on something! See, we can get there 'in the end' As you have been told by a certain someone, the Hynds cancelled that order, or the tapas staff, on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party? But if it bothers you, do what others do, contact people IE staff etc to confirm or deny your 'belief's' perhaps? Granted, yes, that is a lot of wine to drink, IF that were the case, though, if I answer, I won't be right either way will I? I'll either allow you to say that I am accusing the PJ/Amaral of being incompetent or I will be wrong in some other way, but I am curious, if they didn't drink that wine, what do you think they were doing instead and if the tapas sheets contain 'a lie' does that mean YOU are implying the PJ and GNR incompetent? Why would innocent people cover for 9 people or one that they don't know in another country risking their own freedom for it?
To the person who answered it, please provide the proof to "the Hynds cancelled that order"
"the tapas staff, on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party?"
Please refer to our post "The three VERY important photos" http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-three-very-important-photos.html
Yes, there was a party on the list of things to do and the staff did have that as the top thing to do... only no one showed up and it was not because they were busy searching for Maddie.
Do you really not think that the PJ wouldn't have held back crucial and vital information/evidence for perhaps the future reopening in the case or eventual prosecution? Amaral was always in constant contact after removal also with Neves and still working on the case with officers from the UK did you know that? That he said himself 'vital evidence was missing/lost along the way? Statements Missing. kerr. Mrs Carpenter. Mrs Smith. Others too? Are they, including Mrs Smith's worthless then? Like DP's hand written reply to the PJ concerning the Gaspar's with with FP's was included too? They cannot ALL be worthless which are referenced to but not 'there?' Are all of the phone record of T9, some also which surely may be crucial there? And perhaps the party would have been in poor taste? I'm sure the person you asked will read your request and reply.
I'd like to make one other thing clear. I have never claimed to be a researcher. I have always said, I am not. I am here like many of us are, justice. And the truth - That is all.
The Tapas sheet for May 4 is clear about the drinks consumed that day 4 Red 9 White 4 Water 2 Juices
The only ones supposedly there were the Hynds. 2 adults and 2 children. The children were 6 and 2: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P2/02_VOLUME_IIa_Page_337.jpg
Even for the non-alcoholic drinks it’s absurd.
But now to spike up the absurdity, “someone”, completely out of the blue, decided that the Hynds cancelled. So all those drinks were consumed by ghosts.
Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 13:09:00 asks “on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party?”, well, without the Hynds and no one else, it seems by the drinks consumed that it was exactly what the Tapas staff did was to party! Otherwise, who consumed all those drinks?
From the images we have of May 4, there seems to be no one at Tapas, Tapas staff are up at the corner by 5A, so, yes, it would be a possibility that all those drinks were consumed by the staff.
Are we being ridiculous? We would say being ridiculous are all those attempting to answer the Hynds question: did 2 adults drink 13 bottles of wine in a single night?
Please remember, when that the Hynds had 2 children (1 a 2 yr old) with them and just up the street, at a responsible parenting distance, was, ALLEGEDLY a media storm because of a girl who had gone missing, because, allegedly her parents had left her and her siblings to drink. If that wasn’t the perfect scenario to finish off 13 bottles of wine, we don’t know what would be!
1 - Why keep bringing Isabelle into this? Your blog. Your questions. You do the work. 2 - Why are you goading people to answer your question if it's ridiculous to do so every time someone does answer you? 3 - I suggest if you don't like the truth, don't allow people on here to comment. 4 - You are so condescendingly rude and arrogant yet demand what? Respect and glory? THAT is ridiculous considering how you treat others. 5 - I suggest you look up the law. Are you honestly too stubbornly against the missing files/pages/whatevers to think that the PJ perhaps have a prosecutable piece of evidence or items of evidence and CRUCIAL statements, yet you think that they're going to go, oh yes, look, this is what we have, one day it'll be prosecutable, let's give it to the rest of the world so the crime can later be reopened with it? Really? Oh dear....
"3 - I suggest if you don't like the truth, don't allow people on here to comment."
Is that the reason why Blacksmith doesn't allow comments in his blog? Don't waste you time asking why we bring John Blacksmith into this...
"2 - Why are you goading people to answer your question if it's ridiculous to do so every time someone does answer you?"
Because it's a yes or no question and people run circles around it to avoid answering it. Do you believe the Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine between the 2 adults?
"5 - I suggest you look up the law."
Please recommend which law we have to look up.
"Are you honestly too stubbornly against the missing files/pages/whatevers to think that the PJ perhaps have a prosecutable piece of evidence or items of evidence and CRUCIAL statements, yet you think that they're going to go, oh yes, look, this is what we have, one day it'll be prosecutable, let's give it to the rest of the world so the crime can later be reopened with it? Really? Oh dear...."
Yes. What was sent for dispatch had to be ALL that was available by the PJ to provide all the conditions for a right decision by the Public Ministry. Holding back any information would be to not to provide such conditions. Saying there are missing files is to call the PJ incompetent at best, or saying they were devious with the Public Ministry at worst.
No, YOU are the one trying to prove the Hynds and Tapas bar records etc are false like other witnesses you are calling liars without just cause. 9 people lied. You are trying to implicate how many others? If you don't think the PJ checked ALL of this out AND done the best they could do given the circumstances? Why are you still asking about the Hynds and these 'factors' of the case when you have been researching it for what? ELEVEN YEARS now? Apparently... If you won't believe me can you please then tell me where to find Mrs Smith's statement she made? And The Payne's joint hand written replies responding to the Gaspar statements please. Thank you.
Let’s start at the end, about the documentation you mention that are not in the files. They were either not sent, or sent and not put in the files. If they were sent then your question has to be directed at those who didn’t send them because we don’t know the reason why. If they were sent, then your question has to be directed at the PJ because we don’t know why they didn’t consider them relevant (if they were sent) to be included in the COMPLETE process that was submitted for dispatch to the Public Ministry.
We have made our point, you have made your point. We will no longer be publishing any more comments about the “unpublished PJ Files” unless we consider the points raised about relevant to the truth. If you submit any more of the same in the middle of a comment we will censor.
“If you don't think the PJ checked ALL of this out AND done the best they could do given the circumstances?”
We think the PJ did the best under the circumstances, it’s you who doesn’t.
If we threw you 1,000 marbles and you only caught 10, would that make you incompetent for not catching 990 of them or would we be simply giving a task that we knew that you couldn’t possibly achieve?
Because if we threw you 1,000 marbles to catch at the same time, we wouldn’t be testing your catching capabilities but making sure you didn’t catch all the marbles.
And if we wanted you not to catch 1 particular marble, we wouldn’t throw it to you in the middle of 999 of them but instead would throw it to you in the middle of 4,999.
The problem that those who threw the marbles is that they threw 1,000 marbles at the PJ expecting them to only catch 10 but the PJ caught 500.
What you are saying in your words is that we, by seeing they dropped 500 marbles, we are calling them incompetent when in reality we are calling them brilliant for having been able to catch 500 when they were expected to catch only 10.
As we have explained above the PJ was driven off the road of truth. Imagine the journey to the truth started at London and it went along the M1 up to Leeds where the truth was. Mr Amaral was driven off the road in Luton and Mr Rebelo quickly understood that he had no chance to go past Milton Keyes. Criticising the PJ for not reaching Leeds is to be clearly unfair and unjust to those who went above and beyond under the circumstances.
Noted that you once again ran circles around the yes or no question without answering it. Yes or no, do you believe the Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine in one night?
Can you please show where I said I don't believe the PJ done their best given the circumstances? The PJ were and are far from stupid. Were they? As for the Hynds? As I said, would it matter? If I Say yes, I'm stupid and adding to your theory, if I say no, then I am apparently against them according to you so I will cop a deaf un' there. What happens to those 999 marbles when you've lost them? :)
“If you don't think the PJ checked ALL of this out AND done the best they could do given the circumstances?”
With the above you are saying that the fact the PJ didn’t catch the fact that the Hynds couldn’t possibly drink 13 bottles in one night and that would make the “Tapas dinner” house of cards fall, you are saying that they didn’t do their best, while we are saying that we fully understand that they missed this and other details taking the amount of clutter that was thrown at them from all sides.
Your “999 marble” says more about you than us.
Again you haven’t answered the yes or no question, and we will ask it again (each time we ask and you don’t answer it reinforces the fact that you don’t answer it, so we will keep on doing it): yes or no, do YOU believe that the Hynds, 2 adults, drank 13 bottles of wine in one night?
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Threat":
How many marbles should I have said then? And I'm still dodging and have adequately explained why and If You don't like the fact that I FULLY support the PJ now too? That's your problem, not mine. (Censored as warned because it’s about the missing PJ Files) (Censored as warned because it’s about the missing PJ Files) (Censored as warned because it’s about the missing PJ Files) Do you have a link to Dianne Webster's holiday photo's? And I actually think the PJ were close to catching their 'Guys', so close that the camp shamefully discredit them even now... Thank you.
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Good point about Dianne Webster’s holiday photos. As we are certain the photos of the Tapas dinners don’t exist, those are not in the files because they don’t exist.
Oh, but Amaral says in his book doesn't he that the Tapas 9 ate there every night apart from the first - Now, with the whole world now knowing the story, are you saying that he, who firmly stated, UK government intervention and MI5 involvement that, Amaral wouldn't have mentioned 'swinging'? And why if staff did speak out has not one single person mentioned swinging either in nearly 12 years? http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/14-May8/JOANA_03_05_2008.htm There's no proof Webster's photo's don't exist though....Is there?
"I am sorry to hear that you, your team members and families are once again being threatened by those who do not believe in your theory. It just shows how much they want to silence you. Jules is being naive at best to suggest that “It's Twitter you idiot.. Get a grip of your life FFS...” Has she forgotten about Lord McAlpine, Sally Bercow and the Twitter furore? That went all the way to the High Court. Others too have been jailed for sending abusive and threatening tweets, so no, it is not just Twitter. Here's a link for Jules, as she seems to have underestimated the seriousness of the threat: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/13/jail-someone-for-being-offensive-twitter-facebook"
Hi.. I'm happy to eliminate myself.. Who is the officer in charge..? I'll pop on down there.. To be clear the invite was to you not a 'team member' .. I take it that's a no then...? Very disappointing..
Jules makes no attempt to deny she knows where you live and who you are. The question is, how does she know this and why advertise it? Anything that might happen could now be linked to her. I thought the gang were against stalking, although one has a reputation for being one of the worst. Jules finds amusement in a minor being stalked. If she has a daughter, how would she feel if she had been confronted by a man who had followed her home? In fact, she seems to find the whole case a source of amusement. I find her most distasteful, particularly in her interchanges with a man on twitter who writes the most disgusting things about his own life and practices. I won’t give a link as most of it is obscene, including explicit photos (not of himself, so far)
I have enough context to see you for what you are. And what was the comment about not wearing heels supposed to mean? You’re not implying you’re a dominatrix I presume?
https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1096383978083368960 China doll @Chinado59513358 Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Ntown1976Nick and 41 others Tut tut, Do you believe that 2 adults and 2 children drank as much as Tapas say the Hynds drank on May 4? Did they drink as much as the files say they did??? 4:21 am - 15 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1096387498891190273 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog It wasn't a bill, it was a booking sheet. The number of wine bottles required was based on the Tennis group attending. They cancelled. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_624.jpg Hynds bill for 4th May. Previous bills high too. 4:35 am - 15 Feb 2019
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So the wine listed on the Tapas reservations sheets are… PREDICTIONS???
You couldn’t make this one up… oh, wait, someone just did!
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096477525411274753 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts 1. Recce 2. Dry run 3. Execute #mccann 10:33 am - 15 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096723885695868928 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts I thought "IT" had gone quiet on #McCann then spotted this from The Bovine from The Black Country. Birthdays and Turps are a terrible mixture. Check your bus shelters 😂😂😂 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzhYiLsXgAUSYjv.png 2:52 am - 16 Feb 2019
[The picture attached is a screengrab of Jules’ Twitter profile with “1602” underlined]
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096791337301692416 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts Genuine question. Asking for a fiend. Does anyone know when half term is in Portugal? #mccann 7:20 am - 16 Feb 2019
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Interesting tweets and have to be read together.
We will refrain, for now, to say publicly what is interesting about them.
NT is back in the saddle. No one is irreplaceable but no one does it like him.
“AnneGuedes28 Jul 2018, 01:17:00 According to you, Textusa, MMC's fatal accident couldn't be brought to light because the following investigation would have revealed the presence in PdL of some eminent persons engaged in swinging activities, then interferring with their right to privacy. You ask what evidence [of swinging] I would expect. I GUESS THAT BY PRIVACY RULE NO EVIDENCE SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. Then I don't see actually how you can base your hypothesis on anything else than probability. It seems to me that the number of knowing people would help in that assessment.”
Where is it backed up by the PJ files?
In the files: http://textusa.blogspot.com/2014/04/why-swing.html http://textusa.blogspot.com/2016/03/maddie-swinging.html
Where is it backed up by Dr Amaral?
It isn’t. As isn't any other theory.
How does it help Madeleine?
Finding the truth about the real reasons that justified the cover-up, is to help Madeleine and respect her memory.
Do not publish Anonymous at 16 Feb 2019, 23:43:00,
Here is your comment at 16 Feb 2019, 23:08:00 as per your request:
"Out of all the blogs, all the forums with the thousands of members, with all the abuse and accusations fired at the McCanns, all the claims of neglect, especially paedophilia (and wouldn’t you want to defend yourself on that one), there is only one person who has had death threats openly on Twitter and even daughter stalked. Why ? Because of that person’s belief in swinging."
We have published your comment for ONE reason: to ask you to please provide proof that we have called you Wright.
But since we published your comment, if you’re not any of these imaginary characters what does it matter?
Why are you bothered what a blog run by crazy people says about you? You say “fortunately, most people are not as dumb as a sponge, so they know you are talking out of your arse” so why do you care? We’re just crazy people who are talking to people dumb as sponge, so why worry?
What’s the difference between following people around on twitter and following them around on a blog, as you have done for years?
Both twitter and blogs are methods of giving PUBLICLY opinions and debating them. That’s why we haven’t ever complained about you copying and pasting what we write in your blog. Do continue if that’s your wish.
Please don’t forget that we've asked for proof that we have said you are Wright.
I hope to god there is not going to be another death over this case, people have got feelings and people might say its only words, fair enough but these words are actually making people kill them selves, please fgs look at what you are going to tweet and think is this ging to hurt someteamone of The Textusa team's DAUGHTER has been followed �� please stop this online harassment death threats ect before we see another repeat of Brenda Leyland rip lady just for telling the truth. Debbie Lee Perry.
What has Brenda Leyland got to do with this Deb..? You do know Tex is probably laughing his one bollock off at you.. Have you been shown proof that a girl was followed because of what this deranged TWAT writes in this blog..? You should hang your head in shame Tex for taking advantage of Debbie and so should a couple of her so called mates.. You actually make my skin crawl you perverted vile creature..
Jules..17 February 2019 at 10:57 I think Tex has to be the most disturbing person I've come across whilst debating this case.. I would go as far to say that he himself set up a daughter of 'one of the team' being followed..I really do believe he would stoop that low..
I think Jules’ comment is the most disturbing thing I’ve read. It says a great deal about the way her mind works and quite how unpleasant she is to make such an allegation. Do those seeking justice for Madeleine really want someone like her as a supporter?
Never in my life have i seen a blog attacted in this way, and what has this got to do with Brenda jules? you have got to be joking the woman was getting the same abuse as Textusa, and why would they make it up that one of the teams daughters were stalked, i tell you one thing though, ive been researching this for a while now, and ive noticed that Textusa has NEVER lied to me, and i have proof, will i show any of you's? no, and why? because ive had enough of being fed bullshit and people trying to distract from the truth, hell yes of course they were on a swinging holiday, its the theory i believe in anyway DLP
"I would like to second DLP's comment. I too have been reading and researching this case for years and it wasn't until I came across Textusa's blog that everything fitted into place and I finally discovered the truth. I've been in correspondence with the blog and I've never been lied to either. Not Textusa and the Lick-spittles can call us Menopausal Dingbats, Stupid Bitches, whatever. The truth is still the truth and however much they try and silence Textusa, the blog is still here and I for one will continue to support it."
I would like to 'third' the two comments above - I am proud to say I am a supporter of the Textusa blog, have been for some time, and it is the only blog that makes any sense to me. The truth will always reign, and this blog is proving that......keep on blogging Textusa, for Madeleine.......
i will fourth that!! I cant honestly say i agree with everything they believe....but they stand to be corrected and deal with the facts in the files....no one out there has been as consistant or been under as much scrutiny as the Textusa team...for a blog they consider to be based on lunatic ramblings....a lot of energy is spent trying to discredit them. i read daily this battle royale and have yet to see them trip...thanks
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097287374684540930 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @CarlaSpade Carla, I've had an extensive debate with 2 people who know all about Portugal & sirens. We were unable to reach a definitive conclusion. What I would like to know is why the Murat dogs didn't bark..... 4:11 pm - 17 Feb 2019
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To contextualise, the debate is about ambulances/police cars use sirens in the middle of the night. The Frog tries to push the idea to justify why Jenny Murat says she heard sirens.
In Portugal it’s called “signalled march”. The use of a “signalled march” (by sound or light) is not used to say “here I come!” but to say “get out of the way I’m in an emergency and need for there to be no obstacles whatsoever in my path”.
Ambulances or police cars do not use sirens at night.
Sound is used during the day (together with lights) and lights (only) during the night. To make sure one is seen and so clear the way and it is not used to communicate how well one reacts to emergencies to locals communities or bystanders.
One very simple reason why no sirens are used at night: babies.
If a vehicle passed the EN125 at the time and it was audible at Murat’s, how many babies sleeping would have been woken up with their passage in the houses near that road?
https://twitter.com/Joysetruth/status/1097122762089525248 familaw @Joysetruth Replying to @anotherviv @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others I'm not sure on this one, it's a Portuguese crime, but Madeleine is a British child, as are the suspects, and with her being a WOC I suspect the uk would seize the case. If foreign families neglect their children in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue 5:17 am - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1097388151591424000 Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet Replying to @Joysetruth @anotherviv and 41 others Correct, and Portugal will most likely welcome it. 10:51 pm - 17 Feb 2019
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To be fair to @Joysetruth she does say she’s not sure, but it doesn’t take much to know that “if foreign families neglect their children in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue” is obviously false, because of that thing called sovereignty.
Does Isabelle McFadden even know the meaning of sovereignty? Apparently, no. She’s adamant on “correct” when she should have said “absurd” and says “most likely welcome it” when she should have said “would immediately be told to go away”.
If this was anywhere near right, then why wasn’t then Maddie’s disappearance investigated by the UK? because of that thing called sovereignty.
If one knows to be absurd to say “if foreign families have one of their kids disappear in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue”, why would it be correct to say “if foreign families neglect their children in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue”?
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097290359787249664 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others Ah right! I'm still trying to find the Hynd's significance so, good luck to you with that lot! 4:23 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1097418993407848448 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @FragrantFrog and 42 others Even the electron microscope at CERN can’t find it 12:54 am - 18 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097292007062544384 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others There is no significance. Tex doesn't understand number of complementary bottles originally required for bookings on 4th May included those attending tennis dinner. Tex thinks 3 adults actually drank it all. 4:29 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097292889149919233 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others I think also if I said one thing he'd imply I didn't support Amaral or the PJ and if I said otherwise I'd have been wrong anyway. They concentrate on things I just find.....Odd. Ben said the same as you when I mentioned it to him. 4:33 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097294009075142657 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others When you have to fit facts to a specific theory the dialogue becomes rather convoluted. Tex is just another person with a different theory (albeit incorrect). 4:37 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097295440725331969 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others I think 'god complex' comes to mind there too 🙄 That ones off the scale! 4:43 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1097419185259536384 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @FragrantFrog and 42 others No, God has a TextUsa complex ☺ 12:54 am - 18 Feb 2019
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When one (Silverdoe) needs to seek refuge in the arms of a person (Frog) who has called Mr Amaral a torturer among other very unpleasant things, that means very clearly and without a shadow of minimal doubt that one is certainly NOT a Mr Amaral supporter.
This is what Siverdoe has to say above about replying to the very simple and straightforward Hynds question: “I think also if I said one thing he'd imply I didn't support Amaral or the PJ and if I said otherwise I'd have been wrong anyway.”
She has said this under Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 13:09:00 “Granted, yes, that is a lot of wine to drink, IF that were the case, though, if I answer, I won't be right either way will I? I'll either allow you to say that I am accusing the PJ/Amaral of being incompetent or I will be wrong in some other way, but I am curious, if they didn't drink that wine, what do you think they were doing instead and if the tapas sheets contain 'a lie' does that mean YOU are implying the PJ and GNR incompetent?”
This is like one being asked “do you believe Maddie was abducted, yes or no?” and replying if I say I do, you will call me pro-McCann and if I say I don’t you will call me anti, so I won’t answer because I will be wrong in some way!
Isn’t that the EXACT point of a yes or no question? To clarify the position of a person on a certain and specific subject and then use it to compare with what that person has said in the past overall.
A yes or no question is binding, that simple. Silverdoe fully understands the consequence of answering that question, because she knows if she says she doesn’t believe the Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine then that will mean the “Tapas bar records etc are false like other witnesses”, she knows she will be calling them liars with a reason, as she has said as Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 22:53:00: “No, YOU are the one trying to prove the Hynds and Tapas bar records etc are false like other witnesses you are calling liars without just cause. (…) Why are you still asking about the Hynds and these 'factors' of the case when you have been researching it for what? ELEVEN YEARS now? Apparently...”
She knows if she says she believes 2 adults did drink 13 bottles, she’s being absurd. So what does she do? She looks to the Frog for help.
Not for the first time that Silverdoe went to the Frog for help on this particular subject. If the reader did not notice it, Silverdoe has referred us to the Frog when it came to (not) answer the Hynds question. She did this when she said this as Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 13:09:00: “As you have been told by a certain someone, the Hynds cancelled that order, or the tapas staff, on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party? But if it bothers you, do what others do, contact people IE staff etc to confirm or deny your 'belief's' perhaps?”
And who was this “certain someone”? The Frog. In this tweet which we transcribed in our comment at 15 Feb 2019, 12:41:00:
“https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1096387498891190273 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog It wasn't a bill, it was a booking sheet. The number of wine bottles required was based on the Tennis group attending. They cancelled. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_624.jpg Hynds bill for 4th May. Previous bills high too. 4:35 am - 15 Feb 2019”
Silverdoe cannot, apparently, read. The Frog is saying clearly that “the Tennis group attending” were the ones who cancelled and Silverdoe says “as you have been told by a certain someone, the Hynds cancelled that order”.
By the way, in that allegedly programmed tennis group party, 9 were the Tapas 9, who were the other 3? We imagine they would be the tennis instructors, so besides the Tapas 9 no other guests were meant to go to that party? Really?
Do note how the Frog tries to distort fact by saying it was 3 adults drinking 13 bottles of wine? No, Frog, the Hynds were 2 adults and 2 children aged 2 and 6. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P2/02_VOLUME_IIa_Page_337.jpg
It’s this distortion of basic fact that so-called antis like Silverdoe support.
The Frog speaks of a “number of complementary bottles originally required for bookings on 4th May included those attending tennis dinner. Tex thinks 3 adults actually drank it all.”
What complimentary bottles? The drinks mentioned in the all the other Tapas sheets were also complimentary? Their number written down before the dinners took place? If so, why is there no correlation between the drinks mentioned and the number of guests present listed on each day?
And why is the number of white wine bottles for May 4 altered? Someone made a prediction and then decided to alter that prediction… why?
Why predict 2 and only 2 juices? How did they know how many juices would be consumed that night? Based on what?
But then one has to ask what complimentary drinks?
Jules has brought to our attention what the waiter Tiago Rocha Barreiros had to say about the Tapas dinners in this tweet:
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1093850130539782144 00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x Replying to @EricaCantona7 @xxSiLverdoexx and 41 others This one that was in the Tapas before the 3rd May...? #McCann Situated near the bar like the 4th May pic...? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy4i44pXQAAvPD9.jpg 4:32 am - 8 Feb 2019
[Picture attached is this from Tiago Barreiro’s statement: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIAGO_BARREIROS.htm]
Tiago Barreiros (who we have previously called wrongly Tiago Marreiros in a comment), and although he doesn’t appear in the Tapas rosta, said this: “That the nine individuals, including the family of the missing child, were included in the half pension regime, having the right to a dinner (menu that included starters, main dish, desert and free drinks [bebidas à descrição]), being that all other drinks (aperitifs, and after dinner drinks) were paid separately using the access card [cartão de acesso.”
So, if the dinners included free drinks, as Barreiros clearly states was the case, why then complimentary drinks?
Before the Frog says that it was only for the tennis party, then we have to remind her that 9 of the 12 people to attend the party, the Tapas 9, were entitled, according to Barreiros, to drink as much as they wanted for dinner. Oh, that leaves 3! Was it from this that the Frog got the “3 adults” from?
If she says it was not only for the party, then we ask again, why complimentary drinks when the guests could drink all they wanted at dinner for free?
See how the people above wiggle, squirm, twist, zigzag and, as the Portuguese say, do 30 for a line, when it comes to replying to the Hynds question?
When it comes to acknowledge all the discrepancies (and absurd coincidences) presented by the Tapas staff and sheets? When it comes to face the discrepancies in the Booking sheets?
Note that above are 2 so-called antis. Only the Frog admits to being a pro, the 2 people say they fully support Mr Amaral and the PJ.
Frog the pro seems to be the rescuer on call for the so-called antis when it comes to the Hynds.
This time the Frog came to Silverdoe’s rescue, but with the tweet where she says that “It wasn't a bill, it was a booking sheet. The number of wine bottles required was based on the Tennis group attending. They cancelled” was the Frog coming to the rescue of Karen Sanders on Twitter who was being pressed by China Doll to answer the Hynds question and like Silverdoe with us, floundered and didn’t answer.
First she tried to help Karen Sanders get out of a tight spot and now she comes to Silverdoe’s rescue. What should one call a pro who helps antis? A pro-anti-pro?
We now ask readers to scroll up and read how many times we have used the word swinging.
None.
And this will be the only time on purpose. Why? To contradict those who falsely claim that we brand as shills those who disagree with our theory.
No, we brand as shills those who blatantly refuse to answer questions like the Hynds question. People who know that something is wrong and prefer to pretend they have not seen it. This is not difference of opinion, this is simply them being dishonest in a case involving the death of a child. It’s them being blatant and transparently shills.
Post Scriptum: Maybe Silverdoe shouldn’t trust what the Frog says. Her friend Isabelle McFadded says that the Frog is always wrong:
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1096937044121608192 Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet Replying to @TypRussell @FragrantFrog and 42 others Frog is always wrong. It alerted to a body, does not mean the dog was wrong... that man obviously killed someone it just wasn’t De Jesus 4:59 pm - 16 Feb 2019
Of course Silverdoe doesn’t need Isabelle McFadden’s opinion to not believe whatever the Frog says. She has a very poor opinion of the Frog:
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097128928601427968 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @Joysetruth @FragrantFrog and 42 others Joyse that is coming from the Frog who also said this....... 🙄🤦 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DznI3b-X0AAjlmt.png 5:41 am - 17 Feb 2019
[Picture attached is a screengrab of a tweet by the Frog on 04/03/2018, 12:8 and which highlights the fact the Frog had said this in it: “If the dog alerts had occurred at Murat’s, he’d been in jail by now & we wouldn’t be here talking about it. #mccann]
***** Silverdoe had even the Frog blocked up until recently. BTW, why Silverdoe’s interest waned about the round faced man?
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1084927470485295104 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx I only put Payne's pics up for clarity that there were photo's of them and their families there, I don't mind unblocking frog for this ones if she knows who the heck is the round faced man texts going on about only Payne out of them all had a round face iirc? 1:37 pm - 14 Jan 2019
***** And Silverdoe has even said that the Frog is not to be believed!
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1045605424295292928 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @Jules1602xx @umweltbuerger @FragrantFrog Of course Frog did! This is all getting ridiculous now - To believe a pro? REALLY? Pros who've lied about EVERY single anti here? 🤦🤦Come on! If you guys are secret pros, I need to rethink my judgement of characters concerning my friends..... 🙄 #McCann's 2:25 am - 28 Sep 2018
lol got a bee in your bonnet? Something wrong because of.....I cannot wade through all of that guff, I tried, and just can't. What I do is MY business, what I say, whom I speak to, you try to play people off each other and your 'followers' claim you're a victim? No chance. You're the problem. What's the point of this? You are trying to cause divide. End of story. Grow up.
Oh and just because we were 'polite' I am sure that is something that escapes your royal highness, quite sure in fact, there is no love lost between frog an I, it was called being polite, try it some time.
Your comment just answers fully the question we put to our readers in our comment: “See how the people above wiggle, squirm, twist, zigzag and, as the Portuguese say, do 30 for a line, when it comes to replying to the Hynds question?”
You say, “something wrong because of.....I cannot wade through all of that guff, I tried, and just can't” and yet you argued the case of the absurd missing files as if you had scoured diligently through the highly boring and complex PJ Files, so you were able to read them. Interesting.
The heated debate between a pro who accuses Sr Amaral of being a torturer (among other vile things) and a so-called anti who says she passionately defends Mr Amaral:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097285468541149184 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @alfibab3 and 42 others LOL...I'm deep, deep undercover in case you don't know... 4:03 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097286277219708929 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others Just don't have those sirens blaring at night! They're not allowed! Apparently. 4:06 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097287653425324033 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others Carla says she knows but she also knows I'll make her crack..... 4:12 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097288905353822208 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others Did Carla mention Helicopters with spotlights not being allowed too? 4:17 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097289410461265924 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others We haven't discussed 'copters yet or thermal imaging. 4:19 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097287835823034369 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others Isn't she already cracked? 4:13 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097289139739856897 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others Her shrink doesn't like us discussing such personal issues... 4:18 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097289292760649728 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others Her shrink hasn't found the lost 999 marbles yet that's why :) 4:18 pm - 17 Feb 2019
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One can see perfectly from above that there’s no love lost between these 2:
“xnorabattyx18 Feb 2019, 23:17:00 Oh and just because we were 'polite' I am sure that is something that escapes your royal highness, quite sure in fact, there is no love lost between frog an I, it was called being polite, try it some time.”
What does the 'missing files' have to do with your guff? Perhaps look to your own followers who do actually follow frog and other 'shills' as you call them rather than myself? Who are you to dictate? NO ONE. End of story.
You can't understand can you that you're not god? Just like the BRT - Have you found a photo of it not being there before the 3rd yet? The tapas bar that is? And I won't answer unless YOU begin to provide proof of your claims like you demand from everyone else.
- “You can't understand can you that you're not god?”
Not with a capital letter? At least your friend Karen Sanders did us more justice! We’re offended.
- “Just like the BRT - Have you found a photo of it not being there before the 3rd yet? The tapas bar that is?”
No. But we have shown photos of the esplanade in September that year, and those show clearly that there was no BRT. Apparently, according to you, the Tapas just threw away the table that had a historic value between May and September, right during the high season.
If Dianne Websters had given to the PJ the photos she said she took of the dinners, this wouldn’t be a question. But it is.
You know, this could be quickly solved. You could ask your friend Jules to provide the photos as the mails she has that prove beyond a doubt that there is a BRT. By coincidence, it just so happens that today we celebrate the first month of “Jules-is-going-to-own-Textusa” day, as she promised she would on Jan 19.
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From your 19 Feb 2019, 16:15:00 comment:
Do YOU believe the Hynd's did or didn't?
No, you don’t believe that the 3 Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine, 4 bottles of water and 3 juices on the night of May 4 as stated on the Tapas sheet that day.
See how simple it was?
And do you realise that this you said in your 19 Feb 2019, 16:13:00 comment is absolutely ridiculous: “And I won't answer unless YOU begin to provide proof of your claims like you demand from everyone else.”
You see, not answering is answering. Every SINGLE time we have asked and you avoided answering you have clearly answered that you like us don’t believe either. Because if you believed in the Tapas staff as you claim to believe, the first time we asked you would have answered “Yes, I believe, the Tapas staff said so, so I believe them”.
By not answering you basically replied something similar to “I don’t believe they drank that much but as I can’t say that, I’ll avoid answering and will dodge the question”.
When you dodged it, and more so by the number of times you did, you have answered FULLY the question.
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From your 19 Feb 2019, 16:32:00 comment:
- “I fail to see where you are objective at all. I guess I missed something considering your relentless tirade against others.”
You are using “Appeal to motive” to avoiding answering the question that has been put to you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive
“Appeal to motive is a pattern of argument which consists in challenging a thesis by calling into question the motives of its proposer. It can be considered as a special case of the ad hominem circumstantial argument. As such, this type of argument may be an informal fallacy. A common feature of appeals to motive is that only the possibility of a motive (however small) is shown, without showing the motive actually existed or, if the motive did exist, that the motive played a role in forming the argument and its conclusion. Indeed, it is often assumed that the mere possibility of motive is evidence enough.”
***** From your 19 Feb 2019, 16:47:00 comment:
- “Are you 'objective' when you mock others tweets?”
Besides playing again with the appeal to motive, one can only mock what deserves mockery. Fact cannot be mocked. What is not factual, what is untrue, what is a lie that is said pretending to be factual or truth. So yes, we are very objective when we mock what is not factual, what is untrue, and what is a lie.
- “When you ignore facts?”
Please list the facts that we have ignore.
Please do not mention the make-up photo. About that we went as far as we are willing to go in our debate here last year with K9Truth. We are not ignoring it, we are avoiding saying any more than we have said about it on purpose.
Other than that photo please list others facts that we have ignored or accept that you are a liar.
- “Where's the objectiveness there?”
To answer, we have to wait what facts (note the plural) that we have ignored. We will be waiting for the list we are certain you will put together.
Textusa and myself BOTH are taking advantage of Debbie? Even if true why do you care?
I respect Debbie's opinion as a friend who says she has seen proof of her theory. I have no reason to doubt her.
In fact, I trust Theresa May to get a brilliant deal on Brexit MORE than I will ever trust you.
I would also like to say the Textusa blog has been more polite and informative than many other people I have asked for explanations from.
Let's just give up on the fascination of who DLP talks to and/or what she thinks and get your own house in order. That's if you ever re-appear to....what is it you do again??
I have been on the F.B Anti groups for a few years now, and learnt the facts, but was also interested in why yhe cover up, over the years ive wrote i believe in pedophilia, satanic rituals, you name it, ive believed it, but one thing i must get straight, it is not the members of these groups i have an axe to grind, its the bloody owners, this is only aimed at the anti groups that wont allow ''swinging posts" or even discussing the Texusa blogs, now that is a red flag like many others, These owners are you sure they are genuine? try talking about swinging and you will see, once everyone accepts that this could be possible we can move on with the case. D.L.P
its astonishing that all those awful possibilities are freely debated, never shut down, in fact pushed to the fore. They have never been blocked or sued but allowed to continue on every blog, twitter and every forum. Swinging though oh no!! Shut it down and fast, belittle those who mention it as a possibility and change the subject quick. Ask yourselves why? Why only the swinging? Something tells me Textusa has hit the nail on the head. Keep it up and whilst I’m here, any news on the Jules emails she promised to reveal? No, thought not.
Please re-read my comment above - who is the only person who has received death threats? with all the accusations you can think of against the McCanns, and because of this one person's belief in swinging, this said person receives death threats. Yes Anonymous, I agree "Textusa has hit the nail on the head - keep it up".
https://twitter.com/CarlaSpade/status/1097642876576677889 Carla Spade @CarlaSpade He's in the rosta 👇 I know who EACH one of those people are. Or who they are SUPPOSED to be. #McCann https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzucK5vXgAY9bV1.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzucN_uXQAAhTwS.jpg 3:43 pm - 18 Feb 2019
[First picture attached is a partial transcript of a comment from us in the current post:
“Textusa 18 Feb 2019, 20:52:00 (Cont)
Tiago Barreiros (who we have previously called wrongly Tiago Marreiros in a comment), and although he doesn’t appear in the Tapas rosta, said this: “That the nine individuals, including the family of the missing child, were included in the half pension regime, having the right to a dinner (menu that included starters, main dish, desert and free drinks [bebidas à descrição]), being that all other drinks (aperitifs, and after dinner drinks) were paid separately using the access card [cartão de acesso.””]
[Second picture is the rosta with an arrow pointing to “Tiago” in the names of the day shift.]
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We have explained our reasons as to why we say Tiago Barreiros (wrongly called by us as Marreiros) is not on the rosta:
“Textusa7 Feb 2019, 12:47:00
But let’s start and debunk this “bar tab” defense by using waiter TIAGO ROCHA MARREIROS.
And we will start by asking who is he on the Tapas ROTA? Is he Agapito, Cenoura, David, Tiago, Zé, Cebola, T. Freitas or Joe? http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_605.jpg
There seems to be only 4 possibilities: Tiago or T. Freitas, if real names are used in the rota and ‘Cenoura’ (carrot) or ‘Cebola’ (onion), if nicknames are used.
By the way, both Cenoura and Cebola are common Alentejan surnames. We have never heard of anyone having a nickname of ‘Cebola’ but one must consider all possibilities.
‘Cenoura’ is a common nickname to designate red-heads but is used only at school level mentality. Also have never heard of an adult calling another adult of ‘Cenoura’ unless it’s a real name. Again, let’s consider the possibility because, as the reader can see, it ends up that TIAGO ROCHA MARREIROS can only be Cenoura.
T. Marreiros says he worked on May 3 from 09H30 to 17H30. That rules out all others out. Tiago, was off-duty and T. Freitas and ‘Cebola’ worked from 16H00 to 24H00.
That leaves out ‘Cenoura’ who worked from, says the rota from 09H30 to 18H00. Note, by saying he left at 17H30 without saying that he left earlier than he should have, Tiago ‘Cenoura’ Marreiros implies that he thinks his shift ends at that hour and not a half an hour later as stated in the rota. That means he gets paid for half an hour he doesn’t work. In a month, or 22 working days, means he has received for 11 hours, or 1 day and 3 hours of work he hasn’t done.
But IF Tiago Marreiros is indeed ‘Cenoura’, then look at his working hours all week: 9H30 to 18H00 with 2 days off duty (meaning that taking into account Tapas is closed on Saturdays, this man has 3 days off every week, what a nice job he has found himself…). Absolutely no contact with guests who dined at Tapas.
And yet he has this to say: “That generally were always the same people who dined in the Tapas restaurant, however he possesses, in his work place, registries about all the people who reserved tables and dined in the Tapas restaurant. That in this act, supplies the listings of all the people who dined at Tapas, from the arrival of the family of the missing girl up to 04/05/2007.”
Is he ‘Cenoura’ or isn’t he? If he is, he works during the day so can’t possibly say the above.
If he isn’t, the who is he? We don’t know.”
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We see no reason, at least for now and until shown otherwise, to change what we have said about Barreiros and the rosta.
Either he’s not telling the truth (he speaks of the BRT, so he is not telling the truth), the rosta is a tampered document (which it is) or, as we believe it to be, it’s both (which it is).
And the Frog provides evidence that ambulances do NOT use sirens at night:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097637491098771456 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @CarlaSpade From an ex-resident of Luz..... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3165.msg404933#msg404933 3:22 pm - 18 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097646806396215297 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @CarlaSpade It's NOT hearsay as Shining lived in Luz until 2 years ago. It's evidence sirens were used after dark. You need to do better to prove YOUR assertions, especially the swinging. I don't watch Judge Judy. 3:59 pm - 18 Feb 2019
The link in the first tweet directs us to this comment made on the Miscarriage of Justice forum:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3165.msg404933#msg404933 “ShiningInLuz Re: Robert Murat and the challenges to his alibi. Reply #45 on: May 11, 2017, 04:00:53 PM » Quote from: misty on May 11, 2017, 02:21:26 PM “Do you have links to any questions about the tone frequency of the sirens, please? What evidence is there that any Portuguese emergency vehicles use their sirens late at night in quiet residential areas?” We have had a single instance, when an emergency call was required to get an ambulance to our villa well after dark.
Something the size of the Starship Enterprise turned up, sirens blaring and a very impressive array of flashing lights. It repeated this process when it sped off towards Portimão hospital.
None of our neighbours checked what was going on.”
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Where’s the proof that ambulances in Portugal don’t use sirens? Because Shining in Luz (SIL) said it did. Just that is enough proof.
He even contradicts himself by saying the ambulance used “a very impressive array of flashing lights” (we imagine that it was an ambulance like all others…), so why use sirens in a small village like Praia da Luz? Is Praia da Luz known for its intense traffic and where drivers are known for letting ambulances pass after seeing “a very impressive array of flashing lights” in their rear-view mirrors?
Do add to the Village of the Damned ambulances that use sirens at night.
We remind that SIL is the man who says he’s never, ever, ever been to Tapas but is very familiar with the charging procedures used at Tapas.
He’s another so-called anti. But he’s unique because he’s the only anti we know who believes Maddie was abducted.
He has fed loads of misinformation about Praia da Luz to obfuscate the case. Like for example trying to convince people that Luz had loads of bars give the idea that it was an intense night entertainment hub.
This man has done what any Portuguese considers as the greatest insult to another Portuguese, which is to give another person’s name to a dog: “Goncalo”. Now he can say Goncalo, sit; Goncalo, fetch. For the Portuguese, that's demeaning.
We remind readers that that SIL is friends with the pillow snatcher Heriberto Janosch and gave the address of one of the Portuguese “suspects” for OG, who lived in Praia da Luz to Richard Bilton, who tried, unsuccessfully, to doorstep him.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098367626257072128 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @jules999x @annienonymouss and 6 others Thought you were on holiday?? I'm actually pleased the consensus is there were no sirens at night, as I suspected. 3:43 pm - 20 Feb 2019
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And the Frog hangs out to dry Shining in Luz, confirming that he’s a liar.
And confirms that Jenny Murat did not hear ambulance sirens in the middle of the night.
As the May 4 photos show very clearly, Praia da Luz is not an innocent bystander in the hoax.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097651855352569857 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog For Textusa:- There were 5 people in the Hynd party - 3 adults & 2 children. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P2/02_VOLUME_IIa_Page_337.jpg 4:19 pm - 18 Feb 2019
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And we stand corrected! It’s even worse when we have posted this link ourselves twice! And to make our mistake even worse, on the Tapas sheet for Friday it does say “3 Pax” for the Hynds!
As the Portuguese say, a mistake that didn’t bite us because it can’t. Our apologies to our readers.
Does this change in any way what we have said? No, it even makes it more absurd. Because now one has to add the non-alcoholic drinks to what this family drank that night: 4 waters and 2 juices. Adults had to have these as well.
So if before, when we wrongly said the Hynds were 2 adults and 2 children, we had them drink 6.5 bottles of wine each.
Now, with the correct number of 3, it means that they “only” drank 4 1/3 bottles of wine each. But now it also means that on top of the alcohol they also drank 4 bottles of water. And 2 juices. It means 2 of them drank a juice and a water on top of the alcohol and the other 2 waters. Does this make any sense? It’s much more absurd, we would say.
Our apologies to our readers, and a thank you to the Frog for correcting us and showing that the entire thing was even more ridiculous than we had said it was.
Interesting comment in reply to Frog’s tweet above:
https://twitter.com/ericson_niklas/status/1097764622717857792 Niklas Ericson @ericson_niklas Replying to @FragrantFrog Another famous finance shark who stayed at OC that week together with millionair Edmonds, investors from Landsbanki, Directors from Hedge Fund, Dr's and people from the pharma industry. This mediocre resort with freezing pools must have been very popular within well paid people. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzwLGd9XQAEruMX.jpg 11:47 pm - 18 Feb 2019
[Picture attached says:
Contact Alistair Hynd Offices: London – Farringdon Street Services: Project finance, Financial modelling, Valuations, Transactions Sectors: Government and public sector, Healthcare, Private equity, Real estate and construction, Social housing, Transport and logistics, Infrastructure, Retail]
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To those who use the argument that VIPs would never choose Praia de Luz, it seems “this mediocre resort with freezing pools must have been very popular within well paid people.”
Don't know, but Martin Brunt said twice that the McCanns had been in Praia da Luz 'for two weeks'. If it was anyone else I would probably disregard this information, but Brunt has got form where this suspicious case is concerned.
Makes one wonder how much he actually knows, especially seeing his involvement in the Brenda Leyland tragedy. Sky News have a lot to answer to, they've been pro-McCann all the way through, even when the dogs were brought in.
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098010523843678209 The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 27 others Does anyone know the name of them staying in the top apartment on the 3rd , above Mrs fen ? 4:04 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098012466003480577 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others That would be the Moyses. 4:12 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098016061495099392 The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others Ta, yeah that’s them ,, may as well ask you first GL , what’s there story, a news report says they heard Kate say they’ve took her and Gerry scriking on someone’s shoulder , yet I thought they heard nothing as was woken with a knock on the door after the alarm was raised 4:26 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098017794363408384 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others Apparently they went down into the front car park after the knock on the door, not sure what time exactly but I think the GNR were already there. Press reports seem embellished with half-truths. 4:33 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098020870281412608 The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others Embellished is an understatement , what gets me is this, how can a newspaper print that they seen Gerry upset and heard Kate shout they’ve taken her, when in fact they had to be woken by staff from the hotel 4:45 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098022386555867136 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id52.htm Scroll down to 14th August 2007 for a transcript of Susan Moyse's interview with Radio Stoke. I don't know what they heard & saw after joining the searches. 4:51 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098024885807403008 The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others Thanks for that , that’s what iv seen on YouTube, I think this couples explanation on what they did on that night is unbelievably important. 5:01 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098026880031174657 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others They were on their balcony at the back of their apartment after returning from their meal therefore had no sight of the front car park or area in which the intruder probably gained access to 5A. I don't see them as important witnesses, except to the McCanns mental state. 5:09 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098029313352499201 The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others 😁 you don’t see there statements as important even though they can hear and see the street and the tapas bar. And the fact they was on there balcony right at the time everything kicked off And they saw and heard nowt. I don’t have the same important meter as you mate 5:19 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098030873864212481 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others Do you believe that nothing happened at just after 10pm (contrary to many witness statements) or do you think the Moyses may have been inside their apartment as oblivious as Mrs Fenn was until 1030pm? 5:25 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098032527107862528 The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others In the Moyes case I think to much happened before 10 for them not to see anything or hear anything , I’m in my house and I can hear if someone’s talkin across the road , there on a balcony facing a quiet street , a great view of the street for what 40/ 45 minutes and nothing 🤔 5:32 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1098034748004360193 Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet Replying to @regretkay @FragrantFrog and 26 others Mr. Moyes does not believe the McCanns. Plain and simple 5:40 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098035427464880129 The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay Replying to @McCannCaseTweet @FragrantFrog and 26 others Yeah , couldn’t work out why Susan Moyes didn’t suspect them , from what iv read anyway ,, I’m so glad you’ve said this 👍 5:43 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1098036029242535936 Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet Replying to @regretkay @FragrantFrog and 26 others We don’t know??? Maybe they are being safe and playing good guy bad guy? People are obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics 5:46 pm - 19 Feb 2019
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According to Isabelle McFadden, the Moyes are “obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics” and are “are being safe”. And it’s not only the Moyes who are afraid, according to McFadden, of the “McCann Mafia tactics”, it’s the PEOPLE who are: “People are obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics”
We assume that the Tapas staff and others are included in said “people”. If the Moyes are scared, then the Tapas staff are as well.
As readers might imagine, this will now be our standard answer to all those who keep asking why hasn’t any of the Tapas staff spilled the beans yet. Like in this tweet exchange:
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092019558888685570 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @DuskatChristie @Chinado59513358 and 35 others I can’t say it [swinging theory] it’s impossible, because we simply don’t know , with no evidence to support or debunk it . GA didn’t set much store by it and I can’t believe the staff wouldn’t sell their stories once they had been let go so that , to me , favours the absence of swinging #mccann 3:18 am - 3 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/DuskatChristie/status/1092022194689855489 SunsetChristie @DuskatChristie Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Chinado59513358 and 35 others I get what yr saying Karen.But none of us really know the constraints the staff were put under to remain silent on any events of that week 3:29 am - 3 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092022671141945356 Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7 Replying to @DuskatChristie @Chinado59513358 and 35 others Of course , it just seems highly unlikely 3:31 am - 3 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1092032313448415235 00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x Replying to @EricaCantona7 @DuskatChristie and 35 others It does considering they were left with no job and income... 4:09 am - 3 Feb 2019
Our answer to the above is now and will be simply this:
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1098036029242535936 Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet Replying to @regretkay @FragrantFrog and 26 others We don’t know??? Maybe they are being safe and playing good guy bad guy? People are obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics 5:46 pm - 19 Feb 2019
About the Moyes, we bring over to the blog what the Frog has linked above: http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id52.htm
"We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say 'a little girl' had 'been abducted'; those... those were the words used", 14 August 2007 Search for Maddie BBC - Stoke and Staffordshire
14 August 2007 - Susan Moyes owns an apartment two floors above the one the McCanns stayed in.
Transcript
By Nigel Moore
Question: This is a story you've followed incredibly closely because you were involved on the night; you helped the police and the family in looking for Madeleine, didn't you?
Susan Moyes: Yes, we did and, yes, very, very concerned... concerned for the family and followed it, every day... every day.
Q: Can you take us back to that night and... and what you were doing and when you first heard there was a problem?
SM: Sure. We went out for a meal about 7 o'clock, down in the town, we walked back about 9 o'clock, round past, errm... the... the church, round past the supermarket, back to the apartment, went out on the balcony about quarter past nine - everywhere was peaceful, everywhere was lovely - we then went to bed.
We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say 'a little girl' had 'been abducted'; those... those were the words used. So, we got dressed and joined in the search, we were out until about four in the morning with, oooh… about, I don't know, thirty people... thirty other people, maybe. The Mark Warner team were out, errm... and other guests at the Ocean Club.
Q: Now, to... to put it into perspective, we've all seen the pictures of the apartment where the McCanns were staying. How close is yours to theirs?
SM: Directly above, errm... we are but one above. Mrs Fenn, that lives there, was in the apartment below us and then below that was the McCanns, so directly above.
[Picture inserted with the following caption: “The Moyes were sat on their balcony at 9:15 PM but report nothing suspicious” ] http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/sitebuilderpictures/oc4.jpg
Q: And, errr... you were out there for a considerable... a considerable period of time?
SM: Yeah, we went out on the Wednesday; the day before sh..., errr... Madeleine went missing and we were out for the month of May.
Q: Tell me about the affect all of this has had on the... the local community there.
SM: It was, errr... unbelievable really. Apart from the disruption from the mass media, the helicopter - constantly circling round - and sheer disbelief really, everybody was completely, errm... well, amazed by it. Gobsmacked, really.
Q: What... I mean, what were the local community saying to you because obviously being out there such a time, you must have spoken to a lot of people about it? It must have been, if you like, the talk of the town.
SM: Mmm... There was a lot of criticism of the police, which... which we felt was unfounded, errm... at that time. And... really, a lot of... unsure about exactly what happened. How did somebody get in? Was it the front? Was it the back? Was it left open? Was it forced? A lot of different stories...
Q: Speculation, if you like...
SM: Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
Q: And... we've got a copy of the newspaper here - in fact it's one of today's newspapers - The Express and... and it's still front page news, of course. Back in the news, there...
Q: How do you feel when you see the pictures here in the newspapers? I mean, have you... have you collected newspapers over the period?
SM: Oh yeah, I get the paper every day anyway but obviously followed it very closely and I just… disbelief, no way... no way do I feel they were any way involved in it. Not at all, no.
Q: How do you feel they… they've been treated?
SM: I think, errm... initially it was very supportive. Personally, I think probably if they'd left the Algarve maybe a month ago, errm... it... it would have been treated more favourably, I think.
Q: It's difficult to know how... how to handle that kind of situation, from their point of view though, I suppose, isn't it?
SM: Beggar's belief... it beggar's belief, yeah, you just don't want to be in that situation, errm... but, yeah, I can't understand this, errr... the turn of... of people's attitudes towards them, some being really quite nasty, unfounded and... and wrong, I think.
Q: Have the newspapers got it right in terms of... of where they were that evening, I mean, the distance from the... the restaurant to the apartment and what have you?
SM: Well, yeah, as the crow flies, errm... they're probably about right with the 50 yards but, in actual fact, you do have to... it's walled off, in a walled area - about six foot of wall - so you have to actually have to go through a little, errm... entrance building, out onto the road and then round to their apartment.
Q: And line of sight, is there any?
SM: Difficult... they wouldn't have had vision of the whole of their, errm... errr... balcony, they would only have had the top of it from... from where they were sitting, because of the wall and because of the flowers on top of the wall.
Q: How do you feel about the... the criticism of the McCann family for leaving the children?
SM: Harsh... very, very harsh. Hand on heart, we've all done something like that, I think, and errm... no, it's... it's just unfortunate. Just a sad, unfortunate accident.
Q: And how do you feel having been, if you like, errm... being swept along with all of this, having been part of this story from the start, being there, at that time when it all happened, I mean, I suspect as a family you must have talked about this over the dinner table for... for weeks and weeks and weeks?
SM: Yes... yes, we have, we have, errm... and I just can't get my head round it at all. I can't... I can't understand it and I don't... I don't know if it'll ever be resolved, really.
Q: You're off back to... to Portugal soon, I gather, and errm... how do you think Praia da Luz will be when you get back?
SM: Yeah, we go back in a couple of weeks, errm... and my husband has actually said for the first time he's going to feel very differently about it, errm... I... I... no, I'm fine about, I'm fine about it, errm... but, yeah, it’s a shame, it's kind of tainted what is a lovely... lovely spot.
She has an awful lot to say for someone who allegedly knows nothing, no wonder the witness statements have been scrutinised so heavily over time. Are any of them truthful, or was this one big scam where everyone was lying? There's too many UK connections for my liking.
How did she know it was an accident? Unless she'd been told and she was part of the scam from the beginning. The amount of people involved in this audacious cover-up is truly mind-boggling.
Textusa, are you absolutely sure everything that happened occurred on the third of May? Personally, I'm not convinced.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098632498660167681 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @BourgeoisViews @thetruthnessie and 43 others Conclusion used was in Almeida's interim report of 10/9/07. Amaral merely repeated it in his book, which is why it is libellous when done as private citizen.. SC said Amaral made a value judgement when expressing opinion but the value judgement was actually made by Almeida. 9:16 am - 21 Feb 2019
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Almeida did not write the report as his own conclusions, he writes as the conclusions of the PJ investigation. He happens to be the author but is representing an entity. An entity for which Mr Amaral was responsible for.
So that report was, as Mr Amaral says in his book, the conclusions that he and the investigators worked with him came to.
The Portuguese Supreme Justice court stated very clearly that Mr Amaral had every right to write what he wrote.
If it was libellous, why didn’t the McCanns sue Mr Amaral for libel (and have that repetition discussed in court to see if it was libellous or not) instead of suing him for damages because the presumption of innocence meant they COULD be (but then could not be…) innocent and in THAT CASE, in the case they COULD be innocent, it would be damaging to them.
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1098665241032970240 SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx Replying to @FragrantFrog @BourgeoisViews and 42 others And yet, you still claim Murat was involved when HE was cleared. You still claim Mrs Fenn lied? You still claim the PJ failed? Who refused to cooperate? 11:26 am - 21 Feb 2019
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The person who, while NOT answering the Hynds question, accuses us of ignoring fact – a list we are waiting for her to provide – is now trying to invent a fact. A fact that other “antis” have also tried to push in the past: that Murat was cleared.
Silverdoe, please provide evidence that Murat was cleared.
Murat was as much cleared as were the McCanns. He was not.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098348344177582080 Green Leaper @FragrantFrog Replying to @regretkay @MancunianMEDlC and 26 others The calls may have been deleted from the handsets but there were records of them all in the phone provider's database. Why was it strange re. the hair? Madeleine was away from the apartment for most of each day. 2:27 pm - 20 Feb 2019
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Frog,
Why would the parents of an abducted little girl delete calls from their handsets?
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1098695923968946177 Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts Replying to @nowayjomo As I’ve consistently said on here and my blog “abductors take, they don’t leave”. #mccann 1:28 pm - 21 Feb 2019
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Oh, Killa has a blog. Where he has consistently expressed his opinions… anyone know where we can read it?
"SM: Yes... yes, we have, we have, errm... and I just can't get my head round it at all. I can't... I can't understand it and I don't... I don't know if it'll ever be resolved, really".
Comments are welcomed, but its reserved the right to delete comments deemed as spam, transparent attempts to get traffic without providing any useful commentary, and any contributions which are offensive or inappropriate for civilized discourse.
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/11/scare-tactics.html
ReplyDeleteJules continues to fuel the hatred against the blog:
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Replying to @rambojambo9 @EricaCantona7 and 41 others
Textusa posted a horrendous item about a witness in PDL..A girl.. Claiming she had lied.. It was accompanied by a photo depicting her as a victim of child sex abuse.. Absolute no proof of course, but the girl was identifiable... That mattered not to Tex.. The weirdo.. #McCann
6:37 am - 13 Feb 2019
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These are the posts about TS, the child who was evidently told to lie. We used only initials because she was a minor:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/03/edgars-cronic-discrepancy-syndrome.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/03/child-abused.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/04/not-even-alice-in-wonderland.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/04/in-previous-post-not-even-alice-in.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/04/mockery-within-mockery.html
We will leave it up to the readers to decide as to who was wrongful to this girl.
The images where TS “was identifiable” were taken from the Emma Loach’s 2009 Mockumentary, so totally their decision to have used the girl in the documentary.
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095675253085343744
ReplyDeleteKaren Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
No that is not the answer and you know it Are you basing your “theory” on searches from Malinka’s pc and are yup saying every search was pertinent to your theory ? It’s an easy enough question , for heavens sake
5:25 am - 13 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095698401986076673
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @MrDelorean2 and 41 others
So you are basing it on a search of someone’s pc, which presumably has nothing to do with the McCanns at all, but you are running with it anyway? You do know over half of them are completely innocuous, some are pertinent to golf and jazz clubs , if you look closely
6:57 am - 13 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095699868163678215
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @jules1602x @Chinado59513358 and 42 others
There’s one about a swing on a pomegranate tree too. And sites describing their “ swinging , vibrant “ town, as in lively. I can’t believe this tenuous connection at all. No wonder Malinka wrote that book
7:03 am - 13 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1095701031126814721
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @jules1602x @Chinado59513358 and 42 others
I can’t believe they can base a search on a golf swing, or a playground. So Malinka, a local, looked for swinging at the end of the week, while the McCanns has been there for 5 days #unbelievable
7:07 am - 13 Feb 2019
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As predicted, Karen the Brunt promoter and who doesn’t know how to read the files, has tried to isolate the swinging searching in the computers to Malinka and only Malinka.
Hope readers noted her support to Malinka’s book that had the objective of maligning Sr Amaral and the PJ.
To this, the Frog has replied:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1095711997042311168
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Chinado59513358 and 41 others
Big clue - all the searching is in English - not Sergey's first language. The serial number on the disc does not relate to any listed as taken from Malinka's house. (06-Processo Volume VI pages 1403 to 1405) http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA5_1/o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p814.jpg …
7:51 am - 13 Feb 2019
So Sergey googled pineapples on his porn site?!
DeleteOf course his search terms would also bring up items unrelated to swinging in the sexual sense.
I wrote pineapples.
DeleteShould have been pomegranates.
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1095712940416815104
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Replying to @FragrantFrog @EricaCantona7 and 42 others
Careful... Tex will have that down on his blog as a threat and possibly linked to 'scare tactics' 😒
7:54 am - 13 Feb 2019
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Jules jokes about threats.
Comment received that we have censored:
ReplyDelete“Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Threat":
Just read. Who (censored) these excuses for humanity? They won’t desist. No I don’t think they will… I guess their threat just consolidates to all the gigantic threat you are to them… otherwise why bother?
(censored). I have no comprehension. Feel nothing but shame to come from the same land as them.
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 13 Feb 2019, 18:06:00 “
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Thank you so much for your support, it means a lot to all of us. Have censored your comment so we can all continue going on the high road.
If Jules is so worried bout TS being called a liar, then why doesn’t she call John Blacksmith of weirdo?
ReplyDeleteHe has said very clearly that he doesn’t believe in Spottyman, and that means he doesn’t believe in TS. If he doesn’t believe in TS, then he’s calling her a liar.
We will follow this comment with the comments published in our post “The help and the tennis – comments continue V”
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-v.html
Comment #1:
DeleteTextusa8 Jul 2018, 11:18:00
One person we know who doesn’t believe Spottyman/Pimpleman is real is John Blacksmith.
On his post “The Death of MancCannstein's Monster” published Wednesday, 21 March 2018:
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-death-of-manccannsteins-monster.html
“And then look at this, an internet collation of some of the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created, revelled in and thrust at us month after month, year after year as the truth of the world until Grange finally stopped them diverting the investigation any longer. But that is only their world, the McCann world.”
In the picture he publishes, one of the “vile, stinking, filthy images” is that of Spottyman/Pimpleman. This man:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01457/spotty_1457596i.jpg
He’s one of “the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created”, according to Blacksmith.
As far as we know, Spottyman/Pimpleman was created by Derek Flack, TS and an unnamed woman who appears in the 2009 Mockumentary and who we believe to be Jenny Weinberger.
There are no two ways about it. One either believes Spottyman/Pimpleman is real or one believes these 3 people lied.
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We inform readers that we have published the following Post-Scriptum:
We are writing this Post-Scriptum because it contains an image we feel it’s important readers see it.
Blacksmith has reacted about us saying that he doesn’t believe that Spottyman is real.
This is what Blacksmith said in his post “The Death of MancCannstein's Monster” published Wednesday, 21 March 2018:
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-death-of-manccannsteins-monster.html
“And then look at this, an internet collation of some of the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created, revelled in and thrust at us month after month, year after year as the truth of the world until Grange finally stopped them diverting the investigation any longer. But that is only their world, the McCann world.”
(Picture)
Now this is what he says he said when he said what he said above in NT’s blog:
“john blacksmith9 July 2018 at 09:04
Hello Sade. I've read your post, I've looked at Textusa's stuff and I haven't the faintest idea what she's talking about. I don't even know the statement that NT has been posting.
She asks if something called spottiman or whatever exists. How can a fucking drawing exist? The whole point of me pulling those various pictures off google images is that they have a consistency of appearance - sinister, threatening, ugly, childish, dark, menacing - which cannot be reconciled with real human beings but only with low-grade fictional creations. I then compared them with the thoroughly ordinary, tubby chap that the Yard states is a picture of the man Tanner saw.
I don't really feel like having to repeat everything 48 times for the dolts who can't follow an argument but still. The point of the post was that whoever might be accused or convicted of having something to do with the disappearance of the child in the future will not look anything like any of those visual monsters, reflections, by whatever means, of the McCanns' own childish and pathological imaginations, something I'll repeat again here. That's what the so-called "banality of evil" is all about.”
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As can be seen there are 4 people in the picture he has published: Tannerman, Spottyman, Raymond Hewlett and Pig-farmer man.
Tannerman has no facial features, so he cannot be “sinister, threatening, ugly, childish, dark, menacing”.
The Tannerman had the clear objective of drawing attention to what a man supposedly seen carrying a child on the night Maddie disappeared was wearing, so we cannot see where this conflicts with him being “reconciled with real human beings”.
In fact, the latest news is that he is a human being: Dr Totman.
Raymond Hewlett is not a drawing, so completely “reconciled with real human beings” and not a “low-grade fictional creation” and far from being “sinister, threatening” or “childish, dark, menacing”.
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The Pig-farmer man, may not be a handsome man but the drawing is that of a human being. The Telegraph reported him to be Joaquim Agostinho:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576848/New-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-lookalike-found.html
“A Spanish loner who admits he resembles a sketch of a "scruffy" suspect in the search for Madeleine McCann has denied any involvement in the case.
Joaquim Agostinho, who lives in the small seaside town of Altura, a 90-minute drive from Praia da Luz where the four-year-old disappeared, said the Portuguese police have not yet interviewed him.”
But it turns out that he was Joaquim José Marques, as per the Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-510082/Revealed-Madeleine-photofit-man-jailed-raping-British-girl.html
Joaquim José Marques was one of the people heard by the PJ under the instructions of Operation Grange in Faro and was part of a list of people that Blacksmith released, with interesting accuracy, before the hearings took place.
Hewlett, Agostinho and Marques may be considered not handsome and may even be considered unattractive to the elitist eyes of some but they are human beings and certainly not fictional.
That leaves Spottyman of the pictures which Blacksmith considered to be “vile, stinking, filthy”.
However, Sopttyman is NOT a “vile, stinking, filthy image that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created”.
Spottyman is, supposedly, a creation by TS, Derek Flack and an unnamed woman who we believe to be Jenny Weinberger.
To say “She [Textusa] asks if something called spottiman or whatever exists. How can a fucking drawing exist?” and before having said “and I haven't the faintest idea what she's talking about. I don't even know the statement that NT has been posting” is to show an ignorance about the case quite incomprehensible for someone who has written frequently about the case for years.
Blacksmith is not a newcomer to the case.
If he now tries to say that only the poor have been targeted, that may be true for Hewlett and Pig-farmer man.
Dr Totman, the Tannerman/Creche Dad cannot have the word “poor” used to describe him.
No one knows the social status of Spottyman.
Who knows if one of these days a guest, just like Dr Totman has, won’t come forward and say he was the man seen by 3 people gawking at apartment 5A on the other side of the road of the entrance to Tapas, that he was the man seen hawking over the garden wall of that apartment by one of these witnesses and the man standing next to some bins quite far from 5A by another one?
A guest saying that he’s the man that neither the PJ nor Operation Grange have bothered to look for, and Blacksmith considers him to be just a drawing.
Can anyone tell us who is “the thoroughly ordinary, tubby chap that the Yard states is a picture of the man Tanner saw” Blacksmith speaks of?
But what matters is that what Blacksmith has said in his post and what he now says he said simply doesn’t match up.
It’s quite evident that Blacksmith is suffering from “Paddle Stump Syndrome”, or when one is up a dry creek WITH a paddle and is furiously and desperately back-paddling, in desperation one wears out the paddle to a stump without being able to change the direction of the canoe a single degree.
After having sunk his ship next to the Titanic whilst dining Chablis and lobster, he’s now asking the deep-sea fish directions to the Mariana Trench so he can push the wreck there and sink it a little more.
We will now wait for the news that Blacksmith's blog has been reported to a child protection agency by Jules.
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Replying to @rambojambo9 @EricaCantona7 and 41 others
Textusa posted a horrendous item about a witness in PDL..A girl.. Claiming she had lied.. It was accompanied by a photo depicting her as a victim of child sex abuse.. Absolute no proof of course, but the girl was identifiable... That mattered not to Tex.. The weirdo.. #McCann
6:37 am - 13 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/The_Truth_II/status/1095785492975620096
The Ponce of Dubai @The_Truth_II
Replying to @jules1602x @rambojambo9 and 42 others
Sounds as bad as that strange man who for years has posted random little girls pictures claiming they are #MadeleineMccann
12:43 pm - 13 Feb 2019
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This is what the man, an expert in VIP swinging events and who says there couldn’t have been swinging because the McCanns didn’t bring the right clothes had to contribute to Jules’ accusation.
And another one who, together with Jules who believes that the 2009 Mockumentary is a true version of events. Both believe in the Spottyman. And both say they're anti.
We have Just been informed by a friend of the blog (thank you!) from where the question “Hey TEXT, didn't find the IRA quote?” comes from:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1079971916939739136
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
This is just awful. https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/11/scare-tactics.html
What was it the IRA said about getting Thatcher? #mccann XXX
9:25 pm - 31 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1080042852376289280
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @McCannFacts
No shit Sherlock...
2:07 am - 1 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1080050396926787584
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @McCannFacts
What does Lady T have to do with the drivel?
2:37 am - 1 Jan 2019
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We confess that we missed this then.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing
Delete“Aftermath
IRA statementEdit
The IRA claimed responsibility the next day, and said that it would try again. Its statement read:
Mrs. Thatcher will now realise that Britain cannot occupy our country and torture our prisoners and shoot our people in their own streets and get away with it. Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always. Give Ireland peace and there will be no more war.
Thatcher's response
Thatcher began the next session of the conference at 9:30 am the following morning, as scheduled. She dropped from her speech most of her planned attacks on the Labour Party and said the bombing was "an attempt to cripple Her Majesty's democratically elected Government":
That is the scale of the outrage in which we have all shared, and the fact that we are gathered here now—shocked, but composed and determined—is a sign not only that this attack has failed, but that all attempts to destroy democracy by terrorism will fail.
One of her biographers wrote that Thatcher's "coolness, in the immediate aftermath of the attack and in the hours after it, won universal admiration. Her defiance was another Churchillian moment in her premiership which seemed to encapsulate both her own steely character and the British public's stoical refusal to submit to terrorism." Immediately afterwards, her popularity soared almost to the level it had been during the Falklands War. The Saturday after the bombing, Thatcher said to her constituents: "We suffered a tragedy not one of us could have thought would happen in our country. And we picked ourselves up and sorted ourselves out as all good British people do, and I thought, let us stand together for we are British! They were trying to destroy the fundamental freedom that is the birth-right of every British citizen, freedom, justice and democracy."”
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Do Killa and her friends support what happened here?
One doesn’t need to be a fan of Thatcher to recognise this wasn’t a way forward politically and to use it as an example of what Killa would like to see happen to bloggers is vile and a threat Twitter should take seriously.
Shouldn't it be "do Killa and HIS friends"?
DeleteAnonymous 14 Feb 2019, 13:49:00,
DeleteNo, we believe the account is now run by a woman. This doesn't invalidate anything we have said about this account in the past.
Somebody needs to rein in these people, this needs to stop!
ReplyDeleteFirst they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
For historic registry and whatever other purposes we find necessary:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1095965269497921536
China doll @Chinado59513358
I would like people to understand the seriousness of yesterday’s threat by Walker (Killa Dog) to Textusa.
For some what seems like petty oneupmanship is deadly serious for others & must be done to expose these vile individuals.
Thank you.
#mccann
12:37 am - 14 Feb 2019
*****
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1095985558789083136
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Replying to @Chinado59513358
Call the police? XXX #mccann
1:58 am - 14 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1096024995225059330
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @McCannFacts
You’re barking up the wrong tree with me Muttley.
If anything happens to any of the Textusa team or their families, here is YOUR threat that YOU made to them in black & white for all to see.
4:34 am - 14 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096029516466716674
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Replying to @Chinado59513358
I’m shakin’ in me boots Sunbeam. The Bore Text says he knows me, tell him (if you can stay awake) to go to the police. XXX #mccann
4:52 am - 14 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1096039660948779008
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @McCannFacts
Thanks for confirming who your threats were aimed at.
5:33 am - 14 Feb 2019
*****
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096051623900692482
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Replying to @Chinado59513358
XXX
6:20 am - 14 Feb 2019
The McCanns and their team must be so proud to be supported by a person like this.
DeleteThat is clearly a death threat to Textusa, this is seriously getting out of hand now, i hope the TexTusa team have kept them all and gives them to the police. keep up the fantastic work the team have done, so we finally got to the truth of why the McCann's have government protection, ....swinging.
ReplyDeleteThanks to TexTusa
That message is very clear to me Textusa, and we all know what happened to the I.R.A.
ReplyDeleteyour team have found out the truth!, Well done! try and ignore these comments off such uneducated specimens, lonely sad people that have nothing else to do but eat all day and make good decent people's lives hell on the internet.
Thankyou.
Can someone tell me how it's possible to threaten a blog? TIA
ReplyDeleteBy physically stalking the daughter of one of its authors and then be sufficiently sick to use to threaten both the stalking and an instance where MPs and relatives were killed and seriously injured, plus treating the subject as humorous:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1079971916939739136
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
This is just awful. https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/11/scare-tactics.html
What was it the IRA said about getting Thatcher? #mccann XXX
9:25 pm - 31 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1095674444343848960
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Hey TEXT, didn't find the IRA quote? Here, I'll help you. XXX #mccann "Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always."
5:21 am - 13 Feb 2019
The fact that you are attempting not to see the obvious only means that you are trying to minimize what this person has done, and that just shows that you are one of those who supports this.
What makes you think your daughter was stalked because of this blog, and if you really did believe that to be the case, then why in God's name are you still writing it? You're only copying and pasting tweets, and being spiteful towards anyone who refuses to bow down to the vivid scribblings of a certified maniac. If any loving parent thought for one second their daughter was in danger, they certainly wouldn't place writing this shit over her safety. No, you have taken something that happened to your daughter and decided to use that for your own agenda. You're off your rocker if you think anyone in their right mind believes what you say. Get a fucking life!
DeleteAnonymous 14 Feb 2019, 22:46:00,
DeleteIn your own words, the stalking had the objective of closing down the blog. Thank you for confirming it.
"Writing this shit" is what guarantees her safety and of her family and rest of team members. They will only be in danger if the UK Government allows for that happen.
And we will write a post detailing why we are certain she was stalked because of the blog.
DeleteIf you seriously think the UK government give a crap about you, then you are out of your mind, which is already tinier than your legs
DeleteAnonymous 14 Feb 2019, 23:45:00,
DeleteNo, we don’t believe the UK Government cares about any of us. They may, or may not care for our opinions but that is not the point.
By the way, you do realise you are contradicting yourself, right? First you say everything the blog does is important to all these agencies but now you say the government has no interest at all. Which is it?
We do believe that the UK Government cares about itself and about its reputation on the international stage. We don’t think it says much about it and how they control an affair with the visibility of the Maddie case by looking that it resorts to scare tactics sinking low as in stalking a minor when doing that.
We can only take it that it was a rogue operation, and one that it is in the UK Government’s best interests that it doesn’t get repeated. If it was sponsored by the UK Government then it makes it look really bad, and that’s why we say it was rogue. It has to be rogue, it can only be rogue, only vile bastards would stalk a minor to scare off one of her parents to close down a blog.
The imbalance in the proportionality of the means used when compared the end result intended is staggeringly disgusting, so, again, it had to be rogue.
But it is something that happened and cannot be ignored. Nor can’t it be erased, it’s in the blog and many people have read it.
We call it the NotFrog effect. We will explain one of these days what this effect is and how important it is. By the way, NotFrog does not know what this effect is and s/he didn’t dream that s/he had an effect named after him/her.
In the NotFrog effect is what makes it to be in the best interests of the UK Government that the members of the blog and their families are kept safe. It’s in their interest.
What is all this stuff about personal appearances about? NotTextusa is obsessed by the subject, so is this you?
And how would you know about any of our legs? Or any other part of us? It does sound like how a stalker would talk to a victim. Are you showing that you have read the stalking operation report, is that it? Meaning that you were part of the rogue operation?
Thank you for your reply. Nobody has been physically stalked because of your blog though. You lied about that. You have created a parallel universe, one with secret agents and government employees threatening you. It's madness, and you either need to take all your "evidence" to the police or a psychiatrist. You are beyond doubt, criminally insane.
DeleteAnonymous 17 Feb 2019, 11:55:00,
DeleteThank you for your words. They say a lot about you.
Yes, that myself and the vast majority of people can see that you're one sandwich short of a picnic. You're mad. Insane. Round the twist. Off your head. You've created a world that doesn't exist, and you're accusing many people of living lives they don't live.
DeleteAnonymous 17 Feb 2019, 18:36:00,
Delete"accusing many people of living lives they don't live"
Accusing of what? Of something legal and that no one cares?
According to your "vast majority of people" they're not seeing swinging being the reason for the cover-up because it's legal.
https://twitter.com/grand___wazoo/status/1096138256700325896
ReplyDeleteThe Grand Wazoo @grand___wazoo
Replying to @PollyGraph69 @PhilipTann1961 and 42 others
I “scrolled on” for ages. All I got was swinging ,swinging swinging! How far must I scroll before Carla’s sock & it’s disciples fade away and they stop trying to insinuate their bonkersville version of events based on SWF? #mccann
12:05 pm - 14 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/grand___wazoo/status/1096140011496443904
The Grand Wazoo @grand___wazoo
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @PollyGraph69 and 42 others
Unfortunately that contributes to the distruction of the tag! It’s now a mere mortal of the power force for justice it was a few years back. I’ve probably contributed too! The case is over! Continue to fight amongst yourself!! We all should be ashamed! #mccann
12:11 pm - 14 Feb 2019
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For literally years, paedophilia (and even child pimping), sedation, COMARE, death before 3rd, satanic cults, etc. were discussed and no one complained, no one asked for hard evidence. All was simply discussed.
Swinging finally breaches through the barriers that were set to stop it from being spread and all of sudden it’s all whining and wailing.
But when asked to state a theory, this is the reply:
https://twitter.com/PollyGraph69/status/1096144392509890560
Debbie Lee Perry @PollyGraph69
Replying to @grand___wazoo @EricaCantona7 and 42 others
hi grando, can we talk about your theory please as to what you think happened to M #mccann and if you believe in the government protection, why do you think they get protection?
in no way am i trying to be funny with you, im just wondering. Thankyou.
12:29 pm - 14 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/grand___wazoo/status/1096145024180457472
The Grand Wazoo @grand___wazoo
Replying to @PollyGraph69 @EricaCantona7 and 42 others
With all respect, I have tried talking to you, but you self-admittedly agree that you ‘cannot’ comprehend the ‘concept’.
12:31 pm - 14 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1096093858000240641
ReplyDelete00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x
So disgusting yet so true.. 😁Try shutting messenger down before taking SS and posting.. There are no stakes..Nobody is sinking.. Nobody is paid..It's Twitter you idiot.. Get a grip of your life FFS...
#rumbled
#moose
#McCann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzYbjKQWkAAzF61.jpg
9:08 am - 14 Feb 2019
[Picture attached is a screengrab of this tweet:
https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1095700871919353857]
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“It's Twitter you idiot.. Get a grip of your life FFS...”
Jules seems to think that because it’s Twitter, there’s no civil or criminal responsibility involved in what one says there.
Jules’ who, allegedly (together with JBLittlemore), has reported the blog to Twitter because of infringement of copyright has failed to understand – very much like she has with what is in the McCannpjfiles site – what is meant by Twitter when it says that the tweets are owned by those who write them in their terms and conditions.
That declaration of ownership exists to defend Twitter against any lawsuits filed against the author of a published tweet. Twitter is saying clearly in the terms and conditions that it has no legal responsibility for whatever is written in a Tweet. It has the responsibility to monitor the contents in terms of common sense and decency and even with that responsibility by stating that the tweet is owned by its author, it exempts itself from any legal responsibility for the publication of whatever is published.
Twitter’s responsibility is only about the time an offensive publication remains published. That is where Twitter holds responsibility as it has the responsibility to monitor content.
Let us pass a message to all from Nuno Markl, a very well-known radio personality in Portugal.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Markl
Markl is an extremely good guy. He has made a career by self-assuming and exploring his goofiness. His listeners laugh with his delightful personal stories which have a common thread: he’s a lovable misfit.
Markl is one of those people everyone thinks has no enemies. However, someone online decided to threaten him and his family anonymously. Out of concern for his family then for himself, Markl went to the police.
He did say how long after but I can’t remember, but if it wasn’t the next day it was the day after that he received a call from the police to go to the station to press charges against the man who had threatened him.
I will write his words in Portuguese (Jules is supposedly fluent so she’ll have no problem in understanding them) so that our Portuguese readers can identify how they came from him:
“Eh pá, o que mais me admirou foi a facilidade com que apanharam o gajo! Para essa gente que pensa que pode ameaçar e pensa que passa despercebido, eh pá, vocês nem imginam o quanto fácil é! A polícia mostrou-me e aquilo é mesmo fácil, pá!”
That’s the message we are now passing on to those who think that because it’s Twitter and because they are behind a keyboard, think they can write whatever they want and they won’t be caught.
Markl showed how good-hearted he is because he was touched by the tears of a frightened man in front of him and thought that the humiliation had been enough punishment. He asked if he had to press charges, the police said that he didn’t and he didn’t.
Now, to all those keyboard warriors who think because they have the big guns protecting their backs, your protectors have already given you an example of how far they are willing to go to protect you: the McCanns in early September 2007.
(Cont)
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ReplyDeleteThen, even Martin Brunt went for the McCanns’ throats, remember?
When truth comes out, who do you think will be demonised? You think your protectors won’t use you to protect themselves? Well, if you are naïve enough, please continue in that illusion.
As we have said in the blog, walking with lions is not to be a lion but only their food at an arm’s length. Or even shorter than that.
So it’s not “it’s only Twitter”. IT IS Twitter. What is said there has legal implications. And ownership of responsibility.
And when the time comes and one fits the shoes for bait to distract a lynching mob, then we recommend that those who feel they may be used as bait to start practicing running. Get in shape.
Remember, one doesn’t have to run faster than the crowd, one just has not to be the slowest moving target. And when the slowest target is swallowed by the mob, again then one has not to be the slowest moving target. And so on, until the mob’s thirst is quenched. The irony is that the thirst was created and fed by those who will be bait to quench it.
And those who need distraction will throw in as much bait as they need to protect themselves.
About Jules’ concern about the well-being of minors, we remind readers that when a minor, a daughter of one of the members of the Textusa team was stalked this was Jules’ concerns about her (comments from Not Textusa’s blog):
“Jules..28 November 2018 at 11:39
Strange how Tex has edited that post since yesterday and removed the police report and certain things.
If the 'sister's' are unknown then how it can be connected to the case.. “
“Jules..28 November 2018 at 16:38
I see Tex has edited the post again but it's still not back to it's original form...No doubt an anonymous will have saved a copy minus certain things.. Vile person.. How low can one go.. “
That clarifies completely the regard this Jules person has for minors. Jules belief that we invented the episode when a team member’s daughter was stalked says more about her than us.
We have one more question to Jules for now. Very simple and very straightforward, almost a yes or no one: do you believe in Spottyman?
It’s a case related factual question.
We ask you this for this reason: the name “Spottyman” was given by the tabloids. But they didn’t pull it out of a hat. They called him Spottyman because there’s a statement in the files that mentions he had spots, or pimples, and that he was ugly, even ‘disgusting’.
That statement is that of TS:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm
In Portuguese (for Jules and Karen Sanders, this is what is written in the ORIGINAL PJ Files):
“Não tinha barba, nem bigode, estando escanhoado. Não tine outros sinais particulares, além de algumas borbulhas pequenas no rosto em resultado do barbear. Tinha um aspecto feio, até mesmo nojento”
Translation in the McCannpjfiles (For Jules and Karen Sanders, this was not written by the PJ, this is just the translation on the website of the original above and not what the PJ wrote in the files):
“No beard, no moustache, a clean shave. No other special signs, apart from some small pimples on the face as a result of shaving. He looked ugly, even 'disgusting'.”
Our translation:
“Didn’t have a beard, nor moustache, being shaven. Didn’t have other particular signs, other than some small pimples on the face as a result of shaving. He had an ugly aspect, even 'disgusting'.”
We would say that the Mccannpjfiles translation is perfectly acceptable and accurate.
TS is the only witness who mentions pimples or spots in the PJ Files. That’s FACT. Thus, it’s from her statement where the name Spottyman comes from.
So we ask you again, do you believe that the man who EVERYONE ridiculed in 2009 and no one has ever mentioned again as a person of interest since, is real? Yes or no?
Because if you say no, you will be calling TS a liar, so which is it? Oh, forgot to add, a genuine question.
What on earth does a picture of GA in Messenger have to do with anything? Maybe it's the same as a "DM" people are supposedly getting saying they are a "target"? Don't all DMs show the originator/sender? Why is she making out, once again, that she is privvy to info no-one else has seen? A ridiculous attempt at attention seeking it seems!
ReplyDeleteSo, what makes you more special above Goncalo Amaral? The man who told the truth of the lie? And lost EVERYTHING because of it?
ReplyDeleteGenuine question....
Anonymous 15 Feb 2019, 09:57:00,
DeleteNothing.
Now go wash your mouth, you're not worthy to mention his name. In fact, you disrespect him and his family and their suffering whenever you mention his name to pursue your agenda, which was what harmed him. You're disgusting.
You've said Goncalo Amaral is part of the cover up, so don't pretend to care about him. At least have the decency to own the lies you tell, coward!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 15 Feb 2019, 11:03:00,
DeletePlease quote where we have said that or be branded a liar.
By trying to disprove/diss Amaral's thesis you are calling him a liar.
DeleteGA.
Neglect. Sedation. Concealment of body. And his suspicions of 'bath time' You are, with respect, trying to dispute every single one Textusa which means you are in fact calling him a liar and wrong?
Aren't you?
You've said:
Delete"You've said Goncalo Amaral is part of the cover up"
Waiting for the quote.
I am not the above user, I agreed with the user, can't you tell the difference?
DeleteWe aren't all the same person I thought? But, if you like I will say, if Amaral believes what he does as per my above points and you are dissing that and his knowledge and claiming surely he must be in on the cover up to not have put your swinging thesis/theory in his book too?
Despite the dangers he faced writing it in the first place?
Distinction then please?
From you I mean.
Oh, so now it's "claiming surely he must be in on the cover up"... no longer "You've said Goncalo Amaral is part of the cover up".
DeleteNeed a fire extinguisher for your pants?
Morning.. Genuine question.. Would you like to discuss this over a glass of New Zealand White.. ? I'm in a town near you from the 22nd.. I promise not to wear heels.. My shout..
ReplyDeleteAnother stalker.
DeleteWho doesn't answer the question asked.
Jules,
DeleteIf anything is to happen, you have indicated you knows where the team member lives and who that person is.
You have placed yourself in the frame as a possible stalker of a minor by doing this, even if you’re not behind it.
The only place I will meet you will be at the police station if anything happens to any of us.
I'd be amazed if your daughter wasn't thoroughly ashamed of your exploitation of her and your vile online personas.
DeleteAnonymous 15 Feb 2019, 18:17:00,
DeleteShe's reading every comment including your disgusting one.
We both know that's not true.
DeleteUnpublished Anonymous at 15 Feb 2019, 11:54:00,
ReplyDeleteWe will discuss all your points in due time. Can you please detail what EXACTLY is Mr Amaral's thesis.
So we all know exactly what we are debating. Thank you.
I have done so and you should surely know what EXACTLY Amaral's thesis is by now?
DeleteHaven't you read 'The truth of the lie?'
Or watched his amazing documentary then?
Both the book and the documentary were to show that the McCanns and their friends were not telling the truth about that night and not to pursue a theory about what happened.
DeletePlease detail Mr Amaral's theory. Thank you.
There is a difference between 'Theory' and 'Thesis'
DeleteCan you explain why you are dismissing his summary? And not answering my fair points whatsoever. Sedation. Bath time. Neglect. Concealment.
Sedation, please quote from the PJ Files or elsewhere (Silverdoe found an interview where he states that Maddie could have been under-drugged) that he or the PJ think Maddie died because of over-sedation. If he believed in it, and passed this belief to Mr Rebelo why is there no mention of sedation in the Final Report?
DeleteBath time. This was after Mr Amaral left the investigation. Please explain why the Portuguses police requested the Gaspar statements. Before you say Mr Amaral had made a similar request, he did and it was about Greece and he got no reply. He leaves the investigation on Oct 2 and the Gaspar statements are sent a few weeks later “as per request”. Why did the UK send them? Doesn’t that look like a blatant red herring? It does to us. Mr Amaral wants the Gaspar statements FULLY investigated, so do we.
Please quote Mr Amaral where he has said he BELIEVES in neglect. Note, as we have asked of Andy Fish, him saying “they said they left the children alone…” does not qualify as his belief but as echoing what he was said. From his words he implies that he believes the twins were sedated on the night of May 3. So do we.
Body-concealment, please say where we disagree with Mr Amaral. We say that the parents helped conceal the body. We only want to know who helped them as they were strangers in a strange land. We believe Mr Amaral would like to know too.
I said Amaral's book, not PJ files.
DeleteDoes it matter where he states his thesis?
You use MSM as proof I:e Crosslands 600 people so please, this is your opportunity here, Concealment was within the thesis as you full well know?
Prove me wrong. On all of my points.
Did Amaral say there was neglect?
Did Amaral say there was sedation?
Did Amaral mention bath time?
It matters not WHEN he said it but he did. Do you think you know more than Mr Amaral did to be suspicious of his reasons why he came to his conclusions? These are what YOU should finally be answering and putting to rest. Or do we all go with - No neglect = No abduction. No sedation. And swinging because you say so? Which IS in fact imo going against Mr Amaral's truth.
P.S - How long did it take the UK to send the Gaspar statements?
DeleteAnd WHEN did they send them?
Your comment speaks for itself.
DeleteOne correction, you say "You use MSM as proof I:e Crosslands 600 people"
No we don't use that as proof. We have never stated how many people were there.
We said Mr Crosland said 600 and we said we have no reason to disbelieve him. That does not make it a proven fact. Yes, it could be true but needs corroboration.
What we have said and proved it is the numbers that appear on the Ocean Club booking sheets do not add up.
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/09/missing-people.html
That means that they were tampered with. And that in turn means that with the available information it's impossible to say how many guests were indeed there.
So, Why are people stating 600 people as fact then?
DeleteWhen you are admitting, quite rightly, it needs corroboration? Shouldn't you be making that clearer to your readers who then tweet/promote it as a factual figure?
No, what the 'numbers' mean is this.
There's missing pages in the files.
Simple.
Surely?
And I would also like to ask, who 'tampered' with the files then?
DeleteWe're responsible now for what people state? By the way, the only ones stating it are critics of the blog, namely Killa K Dog and JBLittlemore.
DeleteNo, there are no missing pages. The names are in alphabetical order daily and there are no missing pages for each of the days handed over. The numbers don't add up daily.
The Gaspar statements were sent in October. Are you suggesting on a highly sensitive case, a such high profile case with literally the world watching the PJ would request something in July and be only sent in October? Seriously?
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-brit-snitch.html
Anonymous 15 Feb 2019, 12:48:00,
DeleteDon't know. We suppose only those who could, would. That is a question to be asked to the Ocean Club and not us.
If you wish to be known as 'truthers' then yes, you are responsible when your readers take what you say when you say it without making yourself, imo clearer.
DeleteAnd you are wrong about the missing pages. Are you suggesting that the UK and PJ shouldn't have been, couple with Yvonne Warren Martin's statement ALARMED at the Gaspar's and fully investigated like Amaral said he would have done?
Do you know why DP only has 2 statements in the files?
nexo missing from DVD
WITH THANKS TO ALBYM
DVD location: "Outros Apensos"File: "Relatorio de analise dos primeiros 11 volumes"
Missing pages from detailed activity analysis reports
1 - Anexo 17:
Analysis of first round of witness statements
Time period 17:30 to 19:59 on 3 May 2007
2 - Anexo 19:
Analysis of first round of witness statements
Time period 21:00 to 21:59 on 3 May 2007
3 - Anexo 30:
Analysis of second round of witness statements
Time period 21:00 to 21:59 on 3 May 2007
4 - Anexo 37:
Analysis of phone contacts of Tapas 9
Dates from 28 April to 1 May 2007 inclusive
5 - Anexo 55:
Analysis of phone contacts of Tapas 9
Time period 22:00 to 22:59 on 4 May 2007
6 - Anexo 61:
Analysis of events described by McCann parents
Date 3 May 2007
7 - Anexos 63 and 64:
Analysis of creche registers
Dated 30 April (Anexo 63) and 1 May (Anexo 64)
Then surely you can call the OC and find out rather than surmise?
DeleteOr the PJ or someone within your research?
And more missing pages from the files....
01 TO 14 Analysis September 2007
02-09-OUTROS APENSOS II (FILE 09) pages 01 to 14
WITH THANKS TO INES
From the Brigade for Information Analysis report:
At about 23.30 a white fair haired man aged about 30, one of the friends of the McCann group was seen by Valerie Kerr and her family when he asked them if they had seen Madeleine. They were near to the chapel. Valerie and Laura returned to their apartment, changed clothes and went to help with the search.
No statement from the Kerr family in the files
4692 to 4706 - Letter to the Tribunal from lawyers acting for ACPO
17 Processos Vol XVII Pages 4692 - 4706
WITH THANKS TO INES
4692 to 4706 - Letter to the Tribunal from lawyers acting for ACPO
Letter from lawyers representing British police forces requesting that certain documentation from UK police files be withheld from the DVD for public release.
Anonymous 15 Feb 2019, 12:56:00,
DeleteYou do realise you just made a fool of yourself, right?
We were discussing there being missing pages in the adding up of the number of guests. There could be a missing page that would justify the discrepancies in the adding up.
There are no missing pages in the Ocean Club booking sheets.
About those pages:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/01/debunking-urban-myths-unpublished-pj.html
The fact that documents are mentioned doesn't mean they were considered relevant to be included in the files to be submitted for dispatch.
You don't agree with PJ's decision about what to include and not include in the files, your problem. No one is hiding anything.
Where did I make a fool out of myself?
DeleteI said there ARE missing pages, where was I wrong?
I claimed nothing against the PJ YOU did - Can you also btw clarify, did the PJ officers/GNR officers search for Madeleine on the 4th?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MISSING_PAGES.htm
I am not accusing anyone of anything other than let's not go with myths, let's go with facts and come to hopefully a mutual agreement here?
DeleteDid I lie when I said there were missing pages in the files?
Did I lie when I said what Amaral's book stated and what Amaral believes? Or said needs investigating?
If so, please, prove where.
Anonymous 15 Feb 2019, 13:16:00,
Delete“Did I lie when I said there were missing pages in the files?”
You were wrong. If you lied or not only you will know. There are NO MISSING pages. We have explained this very much in detail.
The handwritten numbering is in sequence and there are NO MISSING numbers (before you assume that there are, wait until we are finished to understand EXACTLY what we mean).
There are some pages which were withdrawn from the disclosed files. These pages are NOT MISSING, they exist is the original PJ File which is archived somewhere in the PJ facilities. These are UNDISCLOSED pages. All pages withdrawn have been explained by the PJ.
There are various documents mentioned that don’t appear in the files. Mrs Fenn’s niece first statement for example, which we were the first to notice that it was not in the files, is NOT MISSING from the files because that statement was never a part of them. The UK authorities didn’t send her statement and her photofit. Yet, they are mentioned in the files.
Same thing with the Raj Balu and Neil Berry first statements. Mr Amaral has written in his book that he knows they were heard in the UK and the British police concluded that they were of no interest so it didn’t send them. This is a subjective call. The British police may have made the right decision, we don’t know. If they said they saw nothing suspicious then their statements had indeed no interest or relevance and so were correctly not sent. Note, their questioning derives from the playground photo where Raj Balu appears in the background with a very flexible ankle.
The point is these statements were deemed not relevant, they were not sent and that all has been explained and they are NOT MISSING from the files.
There appears to be other documentation mentioned, such as annexes and analysis, that would seem likely to be part of the files. Only those who have seen them know their content but the fact that they are not in the files means they were considered to contain information already in other documents or simply not relevant for the decision. That simple. They are NOT MISSING.
So to be clear, there are NO MISSING pages. As we said, only you know if you lied or not but one thing is certain, henceforth if you repeat that there are missing pages then yes, you will be lying.
What is the difference between an UNDISCLOSED page and one that is NOT part of the PJ Files, wherever it may now be archived or not? The UNDISCLOSED has legal value the others don’t. When the process was put together to be subject of a dispatch, ONLY the documents that were included have legal value.
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“Did I lie when I said what Amaral's book stated and what Amaral believes? Or said needs investigating?”
Again, you were wrong about what he believes. And that is the entire point.
We remind you that this all started with the vile, ridiculous, false and misleading accusation of “You've said Goncalo Amaral is part of the cover up”. In quotes so that it’s not in the least misinterpreted.
Imagine being a newcomer to the case and reading that, said with such certainty. What would you think of the blog?
No one (except Isabelle McFadden who says she knows) knows in what GA believes.
GA as pulled off the investigation because he was on his way to the discovery of the truth. What don’t people understand about this very simple and straightforward concept? If he was taken off when he was on his way to the truth then that means he doesn’t know the truth. He was driven off that road on October 2.
Now, the question that has to be asked is how far up the path of truth was he when he was driven off? Our opinion is that he was only on the first step: proving the McCanns were lying. He may have been further down the road or not, we don’t know as he hasn’t revealed it because his fight has been focused on this first step and first step only.
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DeleteSo one must make a time division when it comes to GA and what he has to say about the case. About what happened up until October 2 his word is as near as gospel as can be, not forgetting that he’s human but about what happened after October 2 he may have some privileged information (which we will explain why) but the beholder of the “gospel” is Mr Rebelo.
We have been shown such an example, when he says the Gaspar statements arrive in the middle of some papers:
“in Portugal via .... by mail, no, by fax, under other papers, and these statements came loose from the others [e que vêm soltas essas declarações] and what someone from the British Police does is, here are these statements and now you investigate, [you, PJ] question.”
We know they did not come under any other papers, they came by request. This shows ignorance on the part of GA about how the statements arrive. Is saying this disrespectful to GA? No but saying that he would know is very disrespectful to… Mr Rebelo.
Those who say the PJ shared information – as in under the table – about the case with GA after he was taken off the case is making a very serious allegation against Mr Rebelo. If GA was no longer part of the investigation then to share anything with him – outside the circumstances we will detail next – is to accuse the investigation and its leader of committing a crime.
Now, could GA have seen the Gaspar statements, when off the investigation? Yes, he could. He was an active duty PJ officer who had been involved in the investigation so it would be the most natural and logical thing to do to ask his opinion on the Gaspar statements. Sharing the information over the table, not under it and speculating we would even say that Mr Rebelo may have said something like “This came with same papers, do you know anything about this?” and handed over the statements for GA to read. We remind you that we are speculating.
Back to what GA believes in or not. As we said we do not know. His book and his appearances on TV both in documentaries and interviews have all one thing in common: the desire to prove that the McCanns lied. That’s only the first step of that long road to the truth.
Other than that, he’s not committed himself to ANY theory or thesis.
GA also spoke of the possibility of M being cremated with the remains of an old lady. This isn’t mentioned in PJ files, nor is it stated by him as a fact.
It’s stated as a possibility based on what somebody had reported to somebody else.
We were told privately at the time that people had been seen entering the church with a bag, but no original source for this report was given at the time and we didn’t mention it as it was told in confidence and because there was no evidence to support it.
We don’t agree with this possibility, does this mean we think that it shouldn’t be investigated? Of course not, like GA, we think we all should be investigated.
He that is what he has asked that all be investigated. And we agree with him. For example, when he mentions the bath time, he asks for it to be investigated. Does that mean he believes in it? To say he does or that he doesn’t, would be to distort his words. He finds it worthy to be independently and politically courageously investigated and demands that happen, so do we.
He demands a reconstruction, so do we. Is it to prove any theory or simply to prove that the McCanns lied? The last and only the last. To state otherwise is not only to lie as it is to be disrespectful to the man.
So when you say “Or [GA] said needs investigating?” we ask you to name one thing he has said heeds to be investigated that we have said that it shouldn’t.
What will he do once he’s able to prove the McCanns lied? We don’t know, only he does. What theory will he put forward, again, only he knows.
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DeleteSo to be clear all those who fill their mouths with “I’m with GA” all they are saying is that they support he believes the McCanns are liars. Likewise, all those who say that we are against GA, are saying that we believe that the McCanns are telling the truth.
The debate around the BRT, shows who is defending what the McCanns have said, if it’s those who say they are with GA but believe in what the McCanns have said or us who don’t fill our mouth with his name but say the McCanns are lying.
Saying we’re against GA, or even go as far as saying we have said he’s part of the cover-up is to simply mislead, to turn people against the blog and to establish an appropriation for themselves of his name to serve their agendas.
Those saying that GA believed there was a BRT we ask for a quote. We have asked before and no one has provided anything. In his book he has put an arrow pointing to a table that clearly does not sit 9/10/11 people. Is GA stupid? Couldn’t he see that the table he points to doesn’t sit that many people? Of course, he does. That arrow is not pointing to the BRT but simply to the location where the Tapas staff told the PJ where the table had been. Then, no one questioned the honesty of the Tapas staff, so even though a small table that happens to be where the “other” table had been was taken as a coincidence. That arrow says “the group sat here” and not “the group sat at this table”.
Hope to have answered.
Amaral has NEVER Wavered from his thesis of his book.
DeleteI have proven ENOUGH of his thesis - THAT'S why I wouldn't give you 'his theory'
Always you try to twist words and produce half posts;.
You know no more than we do, end of story. You are SURMISING - But oh yes,
there are missing files, you can ignore that all you wish, belittle me for it
all you wish, but there IS missing files. You need to realise that people get
angry when others try to disprove HIS thesis's and you know full well the case
was archived so they couldn't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt so that's
what you are now using to claim otherwise. That's hardly supporting him IS IT?
Thank you for answering but I will be blunt and just say this. YOU ARE WRONG.
Anonymous 15 Feb 2019, 23:37:00,
Delete1. Could you please indicate where you "have proven ENOUGH of his thesis"
2. "THAT'S why I wouldn't give you 'his theory'". You proved ENOUGH of his thesis and that's why you wouldn't give me his theory? Where is the sense in that? And shouldn't his theory be so public and known that you would simply just rub it on our faces to prove your point? You know he has not put out any theory and that's why you even wrote as 'his theory'.
3. Please quote us where we said GA has wavered from his thesis in the book.
4. "there IS missing files". Now you're lying. There are documents we know to exist and that are not part of the files and there are many reasons, as we have explained, for that to have happened. Those that passed through the hands of the PJ are not there because they were not considered relevant. Those that didn't pass through their hands and that if they had would be considered relevant, that's the responsibility of those who didn't send them to the PJ. No missing files. Whoever made the dispatch HAD to have ALL the documentation required to make his decision. The PJ HAD to give him ALL that documentation. Saying there are missing files is to disrespect the PJ by calling it incompetent.
Either way, the documents that are not in the files, currently have no legal value. They may have and may be put in the files of the current investigation but that has to be justified. And "sorry I forgot to send it in 2007/2008 is not a valid legal justification".
5. When are you going to answer the Hynd's question? Or is that not fact?
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1096394742408138752
DeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Chinado59513358 and 41 others
It doesn't help her one iota. but it does show that China doesn't support Amaral's thesis, which is a start in altering negative public perception.
5:04 am - 15 Feb 2019
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China doll has this written on his/her Twitter profile “Proud supporter of the Textusa team & their insightful blogs. I admire Carla Spade & Whispering for their continued dedication to exposing the truth of the lie.”
Now the tactic is, which the comments above have shown very clearly, to push the idea that we’re against Mr Amaral.
The Frog is now helping the push. The Frog! Someone who has called GA a torturer uses China doll to convey the idea that we don’t support him. Seriously, have the tactics got so muddled up that our critics have reached this chaotic point?
You prove to me that I am wrong with Amaral's thesis?
DeleteYou know, the one within the supreme court ruling? YOU said ''Theory'' I was the one who corrected YOU with ''THESIS'' So please, stop with the word play game?
There's enough evidence out there as in interviews where GA states enough for us ALL to know what he thinks and what he surmises.
Do your own research and as for the Hynds? Why are you so fixated on them/that?
It proves NOTHING before the 3rd and wouldn't your VIP have bolted by then as YOU claim is the cause for this?
And don't be foolish enough to think that the PJ would have held back VITAL information because the case was ARCHIVED And NOT closed, so don't play silly buggers there either.
Every single case would hold that VITAL information back. I got that information from a lawyer at chambers in London PERSONALLY.
The case was ARCHIVED - Not closed. There's the difference with normal cases. But seeing as you refuse to do your own research properly, here's the supreme court ruling points ON Goncalo Amaral's THESIS in HIS book. Enjoy....
A first conclusion is that if the book is about an hypothetical checking of the facts or about the opinion of the author on how the evidence collected in the investigation should be read, one shouldn't speak of falsehood, untrue facts, and it doesn't make sense, without a better understanding, to discuss the "exceptio veritatis" (truth exception).
The means of obtaining evidence and the evidence referred to in the book are those of the criminal investigation and most of the facts that the book is concerned with (as well as those referred to in the documentary and interview), when related to the criminal investigation, are mostly facts that occurred or are documented in the investigation (n° 80 of the proven facts).
In our view, the issue, in this trial, is the exercise of the right of opinion by the defendant in that context.
This kind of view is, moreover, evident in the final conclusions of the book when the author himself says : For me and for detective inspectors who worked with me on the case up to October 2007, the results we have reached are as follows:
1. The minor Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5a of the Ocean Club, in Vila da Luz on the night of May 3, 2007;
2. A kidnapping simulation occurred;
3. Kate Healy and Gerald McCann are suspected of involvement in hiding the corpse of their daughter;
4. Death may have resulted from a tragic accident.
5.There is evidence of negligence in the guard and safety of the children (n° 24)."
In either supports - book, interview, documentary - the presented thesis aims to be perceived as the real narrative of events, compared with the initially sustained in the investigation and by the claimants mediated abduction theory. The same thesis is still held as the truth that is hidden behind shelving determined by political reasons and subservience to the British authorities.
On the 1st of May, Madeleine cries for an hour and 15 minutes, between 10:30 and 11:45pm - and cries for daddy. She only stops when her parents get back home.
I suggest you re-read the supreme court ruling.....
IF You support Amaral would I need to make these points btw?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id137.htm
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKLaxawUmx
What more do you want?
You aren't coming off good you know keeping on 'Challenging me' here with Amaral's Thesis.
You do realise that don't you? I think we ALL know who China is, time will reveal all....
Why does it bother you so much that I support Amaral? This is all very worrying you know Textusa.
From Mr Amaral’s book Chapter 23, pgs 212 to 214. In Portuguese:
Delete“Um desaparecimento, uma janela e um cadáver
Aqui chegados importa fazer uma síntese dedutiva sobre este caso. Ou seja, rejeitar o que é falso; afastar o que não se pode provar, por insuficiente; dar como válido e adquirido aquilo de que se fez prova.
Assim:
1. A tese do rapto é defendida desde a primeira hora pelos pais de Maddie;
2. No seio do grupo, apenas os seus progenitores declaram ter observado a janela aberta no quarto da menina desaparecida; a maioria não pode testemunhá-lo fielmente por ter acorrido ao apartamento já depois de ter sido dado o alarme;
3. O único depoimento externo ao grupo que refere a janela aberta e os estores levantados, é o de Amy, uma das educadoras do Ocean Club, que aponta a sua observação para cerca das 22h20/22h30, logo, bastante depois de ser dado o alarme e não provando que aquela assim estivesse aberta à hora em que o ocorreu o crime;
4. O conjunto de depoimentos e testemunhos evidenciam um elevado número de imprecisões, incongruências e contradições — o que poderá ser tipificado, em alguns casos, como falsos testemunhos. Em particular, o depoimento-chave para a tese do rapto, o de Jane Tanner, perde toda a credibilidade por ter evoluído sucessivamente ao longo de vários momentos, tornando-se ambíguo e desqualificando-se;
5. Há um cadáver não localizado, constatação validada pelos cães ingleses EVRD e CSI e corroborado pelos resultados laboratoriais preliminares.
Para mim e para os investigadores que comigo trabalharam no caso até Outubro de 2007, os resultados a que chegámos foram os seguintes:
1. A menor Madeleine McCann morreu no Apartamento 5A do Ocean Club, da Vila ds Luz, na noite de 3 de Maio de 2007;
2. Ocorreu uma simulação de rapto;
3. Kate Healy e Gerald McCann são suspeitos de envolvimento na oculatção do cadáver da sua filha;
4. A morte poderá ter sobrevindo em resultado de um trágico acidente;
5. Existem indícios de negligência na guarda e segurança dos filhos.”
Our translation with our notes:
A disappearance, a window and a corpse
Arrived here, it is important to make a deductive summary about this case. That is, to reject what is false; to remove what cannot be proven, because insufficient; to give as valid and acquired what has been proved.
So:
1. The thesis of the abduction is defended from the first hour by Maddie’s parents; [blog fully AGREES]
2. Within the group, only their parents report having observed the open window in the room of the missing girl; the majority cannot faithfully testify to him for having gone to the apartment already after the alarm had been given; [blog fully AGREES]
3. The only statement external to the group that refers to the open window and the blinds raised is that of Amy, one of the nannies of the Ocean Club, who points to her observation to about 22h20/22h30, a while after the alarm had been given and not proving that it was open at the time the crime occurred; [blog fully AGREES]
4. The set of statements and testimonies show a high number of inaccuracies, incongruities and contradictions - which may be typified, in some cases, as false testimonies. In particular, the key statement to the abduction thesis, that of Jane Tanner, loses all credibility for having evolved successively over several moments, becoming ambiguous and disqualifying itself; [blog fully AGREES]
5. There is a corpse not found, finding validated by the English dogs EVRD and CSI dogs and corroborated by the preliminary laboratory results. [blog fully AGREES]
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DeleteFor me and for the investigators who worked with me on the case until October 2007, the results we reached were the following:
1. The minor Madeleine McCann died in the Apartment 5A of the Ocean Club, in the Village of Luz, the night of May 3, 2007; [blog fully AGREES]
2. A simulation of abduction occurred; [blog fully AGREES]
3. Kate Healy and Gerald McCann are suspect of involvement in the concealment of their daughter's corpse; [blog AGREES]
4. Death may have come as a result of a tragic accident; [blog AGREES, although we don’t say it “may”, we believe it did come as a result of a tragic accident. Note that Mr Amaral does not detail what kind of an accident it was.]
5. There are indications of negligence in the guarding and safety of the children. [blog fully AGREES. There are LOADS and LOADS and then some LOADS more (even Gerry saying that they didn’t check every 15minutes but only every 30 minutes) of negligence indications. People may look up what a red herring is. Mr Amaral does NOT say he believes in negligence, he says there are indications of it and we fully AGREE]
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Can you or anyone please provide quotes where the blog stands against Mr Amaral?
“And don't be foolish enough to think that the PJ would have held back VITAL information because the case was ARCHIVED And NOT closed, so don't play silly buggers there either.
DeleteEvery single case would hold that VITAL information back. I got that information from a lawyer at chambers in London PERSONALLY.”
Are you suggesting they would have had vital information that would influence the decision of archival and held it back. Are you really being serious?
Don’t you have a brain to think that ALL information was given to the decider for him to decide, and if there was some kind VITAL information that they felt should not be disclosed they would have withdrawn it as they factually did with some, which has been explained?
That the files would be disclosed and that VITAL information wouldn’t have been made public?
Did you know that in Portugal to protect information that was within a process, it was ordered that parts of pages be literally cut with scissors before disclosure?
Maybe tell you lawyer friend to go to Portugal and drive on the left side of the road.
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“Do your own research and as for the Hynds? Why are you so fixated on them/that?
It proves NOTHING before the 3rd and wouldn't your VIP have bolted by then as YOU claim is the cause for this?”
Noted you have not answered AGAIN the question.
We are fixated because if one does not believe that the Hynds drank as much as the Tapas sheets say they did then the Tapas sheets contain a lie. If they contain a lie then they are not reliable. If they are not reliable then nothing the Tapas staff has said about the dinners there, by the T9 or anyone else is reliable.
Now, do you believe the Hynds did drink as much as it is said in the Tapas sheet for May 4? It’s a yes or no question.
At last, we finally agree on something! See, we can get there 'in the end'
DeleteAs you have been told by a certain someone, the Hynds cancelled that order, or the tapas staff, on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party? But if it bothers you, do what others do, contact people IE staff etc to confirm or deny your 'belief's' perhaps?
Granted, yes, that is a lot of wine to drink, IF that were the case, though, if I answer, I won't be right either way will I? I'll either allow you to say that I am accusing the PJ/Amaral of being incompetent or I will be wrong in some other way, but I am curious, if they didn't drink that wine, what do you think they were doing instead and if the tapas sheets contain 'a lie' does that mean YOU are implying the PJ and GNR incompetent?
Why would innocent people cover for 9 people or one that they don't know in another country risking their own freedom for it?
It was a yes or no question.
DeletePlease ask the person who I asked the question to, to come back to the keyboard and answer it. Thank you
To the person who answered it, please provide the proof to "the Hynds cancelled that order"
Delete"the tapas staff, on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party?"
Please refer to our post "The three VERY important photos"
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-three-very-important-photos.html
Yes, there was a party on the list of things to do and the staff did have that as the top thing to do... only no one showed up and it was not because they were busy searching for Maddie.
Do you really not think that the PJ wouldn't have held back crucial and vital information/evidence for perhaps the future reopening in the case or eventual prosecution? Amaral was always in constant contact after removal also with Neves and still working on the case with officers from the UK did you know that? That he said himself 'vital evidence was missing/lost along the way?
DeleteStatements Missing.
kerr.
Mrs Carpenter.
Mrs Smith.
Others too? Are they, including Mrs Smith's worthless then? Like DP's hand written reply to the PJ concerning the Gaspar's with with FP's was included too?
They cannot ALL be worthless which are referenced to but not 'there?'
Are all of the phone record of T9, some also which surely may be crucial there? And perhaps the party would have been in poor taste? I'm sure the person you asked will read your request and reply.
I'd like to make one other thing clear.
DeleteI have never claimed to be a researcher. I have always said, I am not. I am here like many of us are, justice. And the truth - That is all.
"the case was ARCHIVED And NOT closed"
DeleteArchived waiting for NEW evidence, and not for evidence that has been put away waiting for a rainy day...
You do know that James Bond is not real, right?
The Tapas sheet for May 4 is clear about the drinks consumed that day
Delete4 Red
9 White
4 Water
2 Juices
The only ones supposedly there were the Hynds. 2 adults and 2 children. The children were 6 and 2:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P2/02_VOLUME_IIa_Page_337.jpg
Even for the non-alcoholic drinks it’s absurd.
But now to spike up the absurdity, “someone”, completely out of the blue, decided that the Hynds cancelled. So all those drinks were consumed by ghosts.
Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 13:09:00 asks “on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party?”, well, without the Hynds and no one else, it seems by the drinks consumed that it was exactly what the Tapas staff did was to party! Otherwise, who consumed all those drinks?
From the images we have of May 4, there seems to be no one at Tapas, Tapas staff are up at the corner by 5A, so, yes, it would be a possibility that all those drinks were consumed by the staff.
Are we being ridiculous? We would say being ridiculous are all those attempting to answer the Hynds question: did 2 adults drink 13 bottles of wine in a single night?
Please remember, when that the Hynds had 2 children (1 a 2 yr old) with them and just up the street, at a responsible parenting distance, was, ALLEGEDLY a media storm because of a girl who had gone missing, because, allegedly her parents had left her and her siblings to drink. If that wasn’t the perfect scenario to finish off 13 bottles of wine, we don’t know what would be!
Anonymous 15 Feb 2019, 13:02:00: “Then surely you can call the OC and find out rather than surmise?”
DeleteAnonymous 16 Feb 2019, 13:09:00: “But if it bothers you, do what others do, contact people IE staff etc to confirm or deny your 'belief's' perhaps?”
Could either of you ask Isabelle McFadden to the favour of doing that for us? Thank you.
1 - Why keep bringing Isabelle into this? Your blog. Your questions. You do the work.
Delete2 - Why are you goading people to answer your question if it's ridiculous to do so every time someone does answer you?
3 - I suggest if you don't like the truth, don't allow people on here to comment.
4 - You are so condescendingly rude and arrogant yet demand what? Respect and glory? THAT is ridiculous considering how you treat others.
5 - I suggest you look up the law.
Are you honestly too stubbornly against the missing files/pages/whatevers to think that the PJ perhaps have a prosecutable piece of evidence or items of evidence and CRUCIAL statements, yet you think that they're going to go, oh yes, look, this is what we have, one day it'll be prosecutable, let's give it to the rest of the world so the crime can later be reopened with it?
Really? Oh dear....
"3 - I suggest if you don't like the truth, don't allow people on here to comment."
DeleteIs that the reason why Blacksmith doesn't allow comments in his blog? Don't waste you time asking why we bring John Blacksmith into this...
"2 - Why are you goading people to answer your question if it's ridiculous to do so every time someone does answer you?"
Because it's a yes or no question and people run circles around it to avoid answering it. Do you believe the Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine between the 2 adults?
"5 - I suggest you look up the law."
Please recommend which law we have to look up.
"Are you honestly too stubbornly against the missing files/pages/whatevers to think that the PJ perhaps have a prosecutable piece of evidence or items of evidence and CRUCIAL statements, yet you think that they're going to go, oh yes, look, this is what we have, one day it'll be prosecutable, let's give it to the rest of the world so the crime can later be reopened with it?
Really? Oh dear...."
Yes. What was sent for dispatch had to be ALL that was available by the PJ to provide all the conditions for a right decision by the Public Ministry. Holding back any information would be to not to provide such conditions. Saying there are missing files is to call the PJ incompetent at best, or saying they were devious with the Public Ministry at worst.
No, YOU are the one trying to prove the Hynds and Tapas bar records etc are false like other witnesses you are calling liars without just cause.
Delete9 people lied.
You are trying to implicate how many others?
If you don't think the PJ checked ALL of this out AND done the best they could do given the circumstances?
Why are you still asking about the Hynds and these 'factors' of the case when you have been researching it for what? ELEVEN YEARS now? Apparently...
If you won't believe me can you please then tell me where to find Mrs Smith's statement she made?
And The Payne's joint hand written replies responding to the Gaspar statements please.
Thank you.
Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 22:53:00,
DeleteLet’s start at the end, about the documentation you mention that are not in the files. They were either not sent, or sent and not put in the files. If they were sent then your question has to be directed at those who didn’t send them because we don’t know the reason why. If they were sent, then your question has to be directed at the PJ because we don’t know why they didn’t consider them relevant (if they were sent) to be included in the COMPLETE process that was submitted for dispatch to the Public Ministry.
We have made our point, you have made your point. We will no longer be publishing any more comments about the “unpublished PJ Files” unless we consider the points raised about relevant to the truth. If you submit any more of the same in the middle of a comment we will censor.
“If you don't think the PJ checked ALL of this out AND done the best they could do given the circumstances?”
We think the PJ did the best under the circumstances, it’s you who doesn’t.
If we threw you 1,000 marbles and you only caught 10, would that make you incompetent for not catching 990 of them or would we be simply giving a task that we knew that you couldn’t possibly achieve?
Because if we threw you 1,000 marbles to catch at the same time, we wouldn’t be testing your catching capabilities but making sure you didn’t catch all the marbles.
And if we wanted you not to catch 1 particular marble, we wouldn’t throw it to you in the middle of 999 of them but instead would throw it to you in the middle of 4,999.
The problem that those who threw the marbles is that they threw 1,000 marbles at the PJ expecting them to only catch 10 but the PJ caught 500.
What you are saying in your words is that we, by seeing they dropped 500 marbles, we are calling them incompetent when in reality we are calling them brilliant for having been able to catch 500 when they were expected to catch only 10.
As we have explained above the PJ was driven off the road of truth. Imagine the journey to the truth started at London and it went along the M1 up to Leeds where the truth was. Mr Amaral was driven off the road in Luton and Mr Rebelo quickly understood that he had no chance to go past Milton Keyes. Criticising the PJ for not reaching Leeds is to be clearly unfair and unjust to those who went above and beyond under the circumstances.
Noted that you once again ran circles around the yes or no question without answering it. Yes or no, do you believe the Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine in one night?
Can you please show where I said I don't believe the PJ done their best given the circumstances?
DeleteThe PJ were and are far from stupid. Were they?
As for the Hynds? As I said, would it matter? If I Say yes, I'm stupid and adding to your theory, if I say no, then I am apparently against them according to you so I will cop a deaf un' there.
What happens to those 999 marbles when you've lost them? :)
Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 23:36:00,
Delete“If you don't think the PJ checked ALL of this out AND done the best they could do given the circumstances?”
With the above you are saying that the fact the PJ didn’t catch the fact that the Hynds couldn’t possibly drink 13 bottles in one night and that would make the “Tapas dinner” house of cards fall, you are saying that they didn’t do their best, while we are saying that we fully understand that they missed this and other details taking the amount of clutter that was thrown at them from all sides.
Your “999 marble” says more about you than us.
Again you haven’t answered the yes or no question, and we will ask it again (each time we ask and you don’t answer it reinforces the fact that you don’t answer it, so we will keep on doing it): yes or no, do YOU believe that the Hynds, 2 adults, drank 13 bottles of wine in one night?
Comment receive that we have censored:
DeleteAnonymous has left a new comment on your post "Threat":
How many marbles should I have said then?
And I'm still dodging and have adequately explained why and If You don't like the fact that I FULLY support the PJ now too? That's your problem, not mine.
(Censored as warned because it’s about the missing PJ Files)
(Censored as warned because it’s about the missing PJ Files)
(Censored as warned because it’s about the missing PJ Files)
Do you have a link to Dianne Webster's holiday photo's?
And I actually think the PJ were close to catching their 'Guys', so close that the camp shamefully discredit them even now...
Thank you.
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 16 Feb 2019, 23:54:00
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Good point about Dianne Webster’s holiday photos. As we are certain the photos of the Tapas dinners don’t exist, those are not in the files because they don’t exist.
Oh, but Amaral says in his book doesn't he that the Tapas 9 ate there every night apart from the first - Now, with the whole world now knowing the story, are you saying that he, who firmly stated, UK government intervention and MI5 involvement that, Amaral wouldn't have mentioned 'swinging'?
DeleteAnd why if staff did speak out has not one single person mentioned swinging either in nearly 12 years? http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/14-May8/JOANA_03_05_2008.htm
There's no proof Webster's photo's don't exist though....Is there?
From "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"I am sorry to hear that you, your team members and families are once again being threatened by those who do not believe in your theory. It just shows how much they want to silence you. Jules is being naive at best to suggest that “It's Twitter you idiot.. Get a grip of your life FFS...” Has she forgotten about Lord McAlpine, Sally Bercow and the Twitter furore? That went all the way to the High Court. Others too have been jailed for sending abusive and threatening tweets, so no, it is not just Twitter. Here's a link for Jules, as she seems to have underestimated the seriousness of the threat: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/13/jail-someone-for-being-offensive-twitter-facebook"
Hi.. I'm happy to eliminate myself.. Who is the officer in charge..? I'll pop on down there.. To be clear the invite was to you not a 'team member' .. I take it that's a no then...? Very disappointing..
ReplyDeleteJules makes no attempt to deny she knows where you live and who you are. The question is, how does she know this and why advertise it?
ReplyDeleteAnything that might happen could now be linked to her.
I thought the gang were against stalking, although one has a reputation for being one of the worst.
Jules finds amusement in a minor being stalked. If she has a daughter, how would she feel if she had been confronted by a man who had followed her home?
In fact, she seems to find the whole case a source of amusement. I find her most distasteful, particularly in her interchanges with a man on twitter who writes the most disgusting things about his own life and practices. I won’t give a link as most of it is obscene, including explicit photos (not of himself, so far)
I can understand why you would think this when Tex refuses to show things in the correct context...I'm happy with everything I've said...
DeleteI have enough context to see you for what you are.
DeleteAnd what was the comment about not wearing heels supposed to mean?
You’re not implying you’re a dominatrix I presume?
Tex knows what I mean... Nosey cow...
DeleteWhy am I nosey for asking her to explain something she wrote for all to see in a comment?
Deletehttps://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1096383978083368960
ReplyDeleteChina doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Ntown1976Nick and 41 others
Tut tut, Do you believe that 2 adults and 2 children drank as much as Tapas say the Hynds drank on May 4? Did they drink as much as the files say they did???
4:21 am - 15 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1096387498891190273
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
It wasn't a bill, it was a booking sheet. The number of wine bottles required was based on the Tennis group attending. They cancelled.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_624.jpg Hynds bill for 4th May. Previous bills high too.
4:35 am - 15 Feb 2019
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So the wine listed on the Tapas reservations sheets are… PREDICTIONS???
You couldn’t make this one up… oh, wait, someone just did!
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096477525411274753
ReplyDeleteKilla Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
1. Recce
2. Dry run
3. Execute
#mccann
10:33 am - 15 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096723885695868928
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
I thought "IT" had gone quiet on #McCann then spotted this from The Bovine from The Black Country. Birthdays and Turps are a terrible mixture. Check your bus shelters 😂😂😂
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzhYiLsXgAUSYjv.png
2:52 am - 16 Feb 2019
[The picture attached is a screengrab of Jules’ Twitter profile with “1602” underlined]
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1096791337301692416
Killa Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Genuine question. Asking for a fiend. Does anyone know when half term is in Portugal?
#mccann
7:20 am - 16 Feb 2019
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Interesting tweets and have to be read together.
We will refrain, for now, to say publicly what is interesting about them.
NT is back in the saddle. No one is irreplaceable but no one does it like him.
https://twitter.com/MrSelfdestructU/status/1096222283994148864
ReplyDeleteUnlike we usually do, we will not reproduce the tweet here. For obvious reasons.
A theory of someone who says Kate McCann had STD - sexually transmitted disease so that’s why she had IVF treatment!
And links that to knowing Freud at Uni who was a rector there many years before Kate attended there.
Then says they accidentally overdosed Maddie after drinking heavily.
This was both liked and retweeted by Isabelle McFadden and Silverdoe.
Words fail us. Any theory without back up is accepted.
Where is proof Kate had STD? Where is this backed up by the PJ Files? Where is this backed up by Sr Amaral? In what way does this help Madeleine?
Where is the proof they were swingers? Where is it backed up by the PJ files? Where is it backed up by Dr Amaral? How does it help Madeleine?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 16 Feb 2019, 22:23:00,
DeleteWhere is the proof they were swingers?
“AnneGuedes28 Jul 2018, 01:17:00
According to you, Textusa, MMC's fatal accident couldn't be brought to light because the following investigation would have revealed the presence in PdL of some eminent persons engaged in swinging activities, then interferring with their right to privacy.
You ask what evidence [of swinging] I would expect. I GUESS THAT BY PRIVACY RULE NO EVIDENCE SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. Then I don't see actually how you can base your hypothesis on anything else than probability. It seems to me that the number of knowing people would help in that assessment.”
Where is it backed up by the PJ files?
In the files:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2014/04/why-swing.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2016/03/maddie-swinging.html
Where is it backed up by Dr Amaral?
It isn’t. As isn't any other theory.
How does it help Madeleine?
Finding the truth about the real reasons that justified the cover-up, is to help Madeleine and respect her memory.
Interesting to note that someone accuses Kate McCann of having STD and no one asks for proof.
DeleteSpeak of swinging...
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ReplyDeleteDo not publish Anonymous at 16 Feb 2019, 23:43:00,
DeleteHere is your comment at 16 Feb 2019, 23:08:00 as per your request:
"Out of all the blogs, all the forums with the thousands of members, with all the abuse and accusations fired at the McCanns, all the claims of neglect, especially paedophilia (and wouldn’t you want to defend yourself on that one), there is only one person who has had death threats openly on Twitter and even daughter stalked. Why ? Because of that person’s belief in swinging."
NotTextusa,
ReplyDeleteWe have published your comment for ONE reason: to ask you to please provide proof that we have called you Wright.
But since we published your comment, if you’re not any of these imaginary characters what does it matter?
Why are you bothered what a blog run by crazy people says about you? You say “fortunately, most people are not as dumb as a sponge, so they know you are talking out of your arse” so why do you care? We’re just crazy people who are talking to people dumb as sponge, so why worry?
What’s the difference between following people around on twitter and following them around on a blog, as you have done for years?
Both twitter and blogs are methods of giving PUBLICLY opinions and debating them. That’s why we haven’t ever complained about you copying and pasting what we write in your blog. Do continue if that’s your wish.
Please don’t forget that we've asked for proof that we have said you are Wright.
I hope to god there is not going to be another death over this case, people have got feelings and people might say its only words, fair enough but these words are actually making people kill them selves, please fgs look at what you are going to tweet and think is this ging to hurt someteamone of The Textusa team's DAUGHTER has been followed �� please stop this online harassment death threats ect before we see another repeat of Brenda Leyland rip lady just for telling the truth.
ReplyDeleteDebbie Lee Perry.
What has Brenda Leyland got to do with this Deb..? You do know Tex is probably laughing his one bollock off at you.. Have you been shown proof that a girl was followed because of what this deranged TWAT writes in this blog..?
DeleteYou should hang your head in shame Tex for taking advantage of Debbie and so should a couple of her so called mates.. You actually make my skin crawl you perverted vile creature..
Yawn yawn. More ad hominem rubbish. Now back to the BRT photo's and e-mails you were promising to produce.
DeleteJules’ comment on NotTextusa’s blog:
DeleteJules..17 February 2019 at 10:57
I think Tex has to be the most disturbing person I've come across whilst debating this case..
I would go as far to say that he himself set up a daughter of 'one of the team' being followed..I really do believe he would stoop that low..
I think Jules’ comment is the most disturbing thing I’ve read.
DeleteIt says a great deal about the way her mind works and quite how unpleasant she is to make such an allegation.
Do those seeking justice for Madeleine really want someone like her as a supporter?
Never in my life have i seen a blog attacted in this way, and what has this got to do with Brenda jules? you have got to be joking the woman was getting the same abuse as Textusa, and why would they make it up that one of the teams daughters were stalked, i tell you one thing though, ive been researching this for a while now, and ive noticed that Textusa has NEVER lied to me, and i have proof, will i show any of you's? no, and why? because ive had enough of being fed bullshit and people trying to distract from the truth, hell yes of course they were on a swinging holiday, its the theory i believe in anyway
ReplyDeleteDLP
From "FB Anon":
Delete"I would like to second DLP's comment. I too have been reading and researching this case for years and it wasn't until I came across Textusa's blog that everything fitted into place and I finally discovered the truth. I've been in correspondence with the blog and I've never been lied to either. Not Textusa and the Lick-spittles can call us Menopausal Dingbats, Stupid Bitches, whatever. The truth is still the truth and however much they try and silence Textusa, the blog is still here and I for one will continue to support it."
I would like to 'third' the two comments above - I am proud to say I am a supporter of the Textusa blog, have been for some time, and it is the only blog that makes any sense to me. The truth will always reign, and this blog is proving that......keep on blogging Textusa, for Madeleine.......
Deletei will fourth that!! I cant honestly say i agree with everything they believe....but they stand to be corrected and deal with the facts in the files....no one out there has been as consistant or been under as much scrutiny as the Textusa team...for a blog they consider to be based on lunatic ramblings....a lot of energy is spent trying to discredit them. i read daily this battle royale and have yet to see them trip...thanks
DeleteBampots
ps...considering iam one of six readers...your reader count numbers are flying!! Genuine observation as they say....eh.. .
Deleteps....
DeleteBampots
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097287374684540930
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @CarlaSpade
Carla, I've had an extensive debate with 2 people who know all about Portugal & sirens. We were unable to reach a definitive conclusion. What I would like to know is why the Murat dogs didn't bark.....
4:11 pm - 17 Feb 2019
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To contextualise, the debate is about ambulances/police cars use sirens in the middle of the night. The Frog tries to push the idea to justify why Jenny Murat says she heard sirens.
In Portugal it’s called “signalled march”. The use of a “signalled march” (by sound or light) is not used to say “here I come!” but to say “get out of the way I’m in an emergency and need for there to be no obstacles whatsoever in my path”.
Ambulances or police cars do not use sirens at night.
Sound is used during the day (together with lights) and lights (only) during the night. To make sure one is seen and so clear the way and it is not used to communicate how well one reacts to emergencies to locals communities or bystanders.
One very simple reason why no sirens are used at night: babies.
If a vehicle passed the EN125 at the time and it was audible at Murat’s, how many babies sleeping would have been woken up with their passage in the houses near that road?
https://twitter.com/Joysetruth/status/1097122762089525248
ReplyDeletefamilaw @Joysetruth
Replying to @anotherviv @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
I'm not sure on this one, it's a Portuguese crime, but Madeleine is a British child, as are the suspects, and with her being a WOC I suspect the uk would seize the case. If foreign families neglect their children in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue
5:17 am - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1097388151591424000
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @Joysetruth @anotherviv and 41 others
Correct, and Portugal will most likely welcome it.
10:51 pm - 17 Feb 2019
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To be fair to @Joysetruth she does say she’s not sure, but it doesn’t take much to know that “if foreign families neglect their children in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue” is obviously false, because of that thing called sovereignty.
Does Isabelle McFadden even know the meaning of sovereignty? Apparently, no. She’s adamant on “correct” when she should have said “absurd” and says “most likely welcome it” when she should have said “would immediately be told to go away”.
If this was anywhere near right, then why wasn’t then Maddie’s disappearance investigated by the UK? because of that thing called sovereignty.
If one knows to be absurd to say “if foreign families have one of their kids disappear in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue”, why would it be correct to say “if foreign families neglect their children in the uk, we call on their countries to deal with the issue”?
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097290359787249664
ReplyDeleteSheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
Ah right! I'm still trying to find the Hynd's significance so, good luck to you with that lot!
4:23 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1097418993407848448
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @FragrantFrog and 42 others
Even the electron microscope at CERN can’t find it
12:54 am - 18 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097292007062544384
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
There is no significance. Tex doesn't understand number of complementary bottles originally required for bookings on 4th May included those attending tennis dinner. Tex thinks 3 adults actually drank it all.
4:29 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097292889149919233
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
I think also if I said one thing he'd imply I didn't support Amaral or the PJ and if I said otherwise I'd have been wrong anyway. They concentrate on things I just find.....Odd. Ben said the same as you when I mentioned it to him.
4:33 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097294009075142657
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
When you have to fit facts to a specific theory the dialogue becomes rather convoluted. Tex is just another person with a different theory (albeit incorrect).
4:37 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097295440725331969
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
I think 'god complex' comes to mind there too 🙄 That ones off the scale!
4:43 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1097419185259536384
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @FragrantFrog and 42 others
No, God has a TextUsa complex ☺
12:54 am - 18 Feb 2019
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When one (Silverdoe) needs to seek refuge in the arms of a person (Frog) who has called Mr Amaral a torturer among other very unpleasant things, that means very clearly and without a shadow of minimal doubt that one is certainly NOT a Mr Amaral supporter.
This is what Siverdoe has to say above about replying to the very simple and straightforward Hynds question: “I think also if I said one thing he'd imply I didn't support Amaral or the PJ and if I said otherwise I'd have been wrong anyway.”
She has said this under Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 13:09:00
“Granted, yes, that is a lot of wine to drink, IF that were the case, though, if I answer, I won't be right either way will I? I'll either allow you to say that I am accusing the PJ/Amaral of being incompetent or I will be wrong in some other way, but I am curious, if they didn't drink that wine, what do you think they were doing instead and if the tapas sheets contain 'a lie' does that mean YOU are implying the PJ and GNR incompetent?”
This is like one being asked “do you believe Maddie was abducted, yes or no?” and replying if I say I do, you will call me pro-McCann and if I say I don’t you will call me anti, so I won’t answer because I will be wrong in some way!
Isn’t that the EXACT point of a yes or no question? To clarify the position of a person on a certain and specific subject and then use it to compare with what that person has said in the past overall.
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ReplyDeleteA yes or no question is binding, that simple. Silverdoe fully understands the consequence of answering that question, because she knows if she says she doesn’t believe the Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine then that will mean the “Tapas bar records etc are false like other witnesses”, she knows she will be calling them liars with a reason, as she has said as Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 22:53:00:
“No, YOU are the one trying to prove the Hynds and Tapas bar records etc are false like other witnesses you are calling liars without just cause.
(…)
Why are you still asking about the Hynds and these 'factors' of the case when you have been researching it for what? ELEVEN YEARS now? Apparently...”
She knows if she says she believes 2 adults did drink 13 bottles, she’s being absurd. So what does she do? She looks to the Frog for help.
Not for the first time that Silverdoe went to the Frog for help on this particular subject. If the reader did not notice it, Silverdoe has referred us to the Frog when it came to (not) answer the Hynds question. She did this when she said this as Anonymous 16 Feb 2019, 13:09:00:
“As you have been told by a certain someone, the Hynds cancelled that order, or the tapas staff, on the 4th with a child 'missing' would that be top of the list to do? Party? But if it bothers you, do what others do, contact people IE staff etc to confirm or deny your 'belief's' perhaps?”
And who was this “certain someone”? The Frog. In this tweet which we transcribed in our comment at 15 Feb 2019, 12:41:00:
“https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1096387498891190273
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
It wasn't a bill, it was a booking sheet. The number of wine bottles required was based on the Tennis group attending. They cancelled.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_624.jpg Hynds bill for 4th May. Previous bills high too.
4:35 am - 15 Feb 2019”
Silverdoe cannot, apparently, read. The Frog is saying clearly that “the Tennis group attending” were the ones who cancelled and Silverdoe says “as you have been told by a certain someone, the Hynds cancelled that order”.
By the way, in that allegedly programmed tennis group party, 9 were the Tapas 9, who were the other 3? We imagine they would be the tennis instructors, so besides the Tapas 9 no other guests were meant to go to that party? Really?
Do note how the Frog tries to distort fact by saying it was 3 adults drinking 13 bottles of wine? No, Frog, the Hynds were 2 adults and 2 children aged 2 and 6.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P2/02_VOLUME_IIa_Page_337.jpg
It’s this distortion of basic fact that so-called antis like Silverdoe support.
The Frog speaks of a “number of complementary bottles originally required for bookings on 4th May included those attending tennis dinner. Tex thinks 3 adults actually drank it all.”
What complimentary bottles? The drinks mentioned in the all the other Tapas sheets were also complimentary? Their number written down before the dinners took place? If so, why is there no correlation between the drinks mentioned and the number of guests present listed on each day?
And why is the number of white wine bottles for May 4 altered? Someone made a prediction and then decided to alter that prediction… why?
Why predict 2 and only 2 juices? How did they know how many juices would be consumed that night? Based on what?
But then one has to ask what complimentary drinks?
Jules has brought to our attention what the waiter Tiago Rocha Barreiros had to say about the Tapas dinners in this tweet:
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1093850130539782144
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @xxSiLverdoexx and 41 others
This one that was in the Tapas before the 3rd May...? #McCann Situated near the bar like the 4th May pic...?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy4i44pXQAAvPD9.jpg
4:32 am - 8 Feb 2019
[Picture attached is this from Tiago Barreiro’s statement:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIAGO_BARREIROS.htm]
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ReplyDeleteTiago Barreiros (who we have previously called wrongly Tiago Marreiros in a comment), and although he doesn’t appear in the Tapas rosta, said this:
“That the nine individuals, including the family of the missing child, were included in the half pension regime, having the right to a dinner (menu that included starters, main dish, desert and free drinks [bebidas à descrição]), being that all other drinks (aperitifs, and after dinner drinks) were paid separately using the access card [cartão de acesso.”
So, if the dinners included free drinks, as Barreiros clearly states was the case, why then complimentary drinks?
Before the Frog says that it was only for the tennis party, then we have to remind her that 9 of the 12 people to attend the party, the Tapas 9, were entitled, according to Barreiros, to drink as much as they wanted for dinner. Oh, that leaves 3! Was it from this that the Frog got the “3 adults” from?
If she says it was not only for the party, then we ask again, why complimentary drinks when the guests could drink all they wanted at dinner for free?
See how the people above wiggle, squirm, twist, zigzag and, as the Portuguese say, do 30 for a line, when it comes to replying to the Hynds question?
When it comes to acknowledge all the discrepancies (and absurd coincidences) presented by the Tapas staff and sheets? When it comes to face the discrepancies in the Booking sheets?
Note that above are 2 so-called antis. Only the Frog admits to being a pro, the 2 people say they fully support Mr Amaral and the PJ.
Frog the pro seems to be the rescuer on call for the so-called antis when it comes to the Hynds.
This time the Frog came to Silverdoe’s rescue, but with the tweet where she says that “It wasn't a bill, it was a booking sheet. The number of wine bottles required was based on the Tennis group attending. They cancelled” was the Frog coming to the rescue of Karen Sanders on Twitter who was being pressed by China Doll to answer the Hynds question and like Silverdoe with us, floundered and didn’t answer.
First she tried to help Karen Sanders get out of a tight spot and now she comes to Silverdoe’s rescue. What should one call a pro who helps antis? A pro-anti-pro?
We now ask readers to scroll up and read how many times we have used the word swinging.
None.
And this will be the only time on purpose. Why? To contradict those who falsely claim that we brand as shills those who disagree with our theory.
No, we brand as shills those who blatantly refuse to answer questions like the Hynds question. People who know that something is wrong and prefer to pretend they have not seen it. This is not difference of opinion, this is simply them being dishonest in a case involving the death of a child. It’s them being blatant and transparently shills.
Post Scriptum:
Maybe Silverdoe shouldn’t trust what the Frog says. Her friend Isabelle McFadded says that the Frog is always wrong:
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1096937044121608192
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @TypRussell @FragrantFrog and 42 others
Frog is always wrong. It alerted to a body, does not mean the dog was wrong... that man obviously killed someone it just wasn’t De Jesus
4:59 pm - 16 Feb 2019
Of course Silverdoe doesn’t need Isabelle McFadden’s opinion to not believe whatever the Frog says. She has a very poor opinion of the Frog:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097128928601427968
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @Joysetruth @FragrantFrog and 42 others
Joyse that is coming from the Frog who also said this....... 🙄🤦
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DznI3b-X0AAjlmt.png
5:41 am - 17 Feb 2019
[Picture attached is a screengrab of a tweet by the Frog on 04/03/2018, 12:8 and which highlights the fact the Frog had said this in it: “If the dog alerts had occurred at Murat’s, he’d been in jail by now & we wouldn’t be here talking about it. #mccann]
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Silverdoe had even the Frog blocked up until recently. BTW, why Silverdoe’s interest waned about the round faced man?
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1084927470485295104
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
I only put Payne's pics up for clarity that there were photo's of them and their families there, I don't mind unblocking frog for this ones if she knows who the heck is the round faced man texts going on about only Payne out of them all had a round face iirc?
1:37 pm - 14 Jan 2019
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And Silverdoe has even said that the Frog is not to be believed!
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1045605424295292928
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @Jules1602xx @umweltbuerger @FragrantFrog
Of course Frog did! This is all getting ridiculous now - To believe a pro? REALLY? Pros who've lied about EVERY single anti here? 🤦🤦Come on! If you guys are secret pros, I need to rethink my judgement of characters concerning my friends..... 🙄 #McCann's
2:25 am - 28 Sep 2018
lol got a bee in your bonnet?
DeleteSomething wrong because of.....I cannot wade through all of that guff, I tried, and just can't. What I do is MY business, what I say, whom I speak to, you try to play people off each other and your 'followers' claim you're a victim?
No chance. You're the problem.
What's the point of this? You are trying to cause divide. End of story.
Grow up.
Oh and just because we were 'polite' I am sure that is something that escapes your royal highness, quite sure in fact, there is no love lost between frog an I, it was called being polite, try it some time.
Deletexnorabattyx (Silverdoe) 18 Feb 2019, 23:08:00
DeleteYour comment just answers fully the question we put to our readers in our comment: “See how the people above wiggle, squirm, twist, zigzag and, as the Portuguese say, do 30 for a line, when it comes to replying to the Hynds question?”
You say, “something wrong because of.....I cannot wade through all of that guff, I tried, and just can't” and yet you argued the case of the absurd missing files as if you had scoured diligently through the highly boring and complex PJ Files, so you were able to read them. Interesting.
The heated debate between a pro who accuses Sr Amaral of being a torturer (among other vile things) and a so-called anti who says she passionately defends Mr Amaral:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097285468541149184
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @alfibab3 and 42 others
LOL...I'm deep, deep undercover in case you don't know...
4:03 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097286277219708929
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
Just don't have those sirens blaring at night! They're not allowed! Apparently.
4:06 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097287653425324033
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
Carla says she knows but she also knows I'll make her crack.....
4:12 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097288905353822208
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
Did Carla mention Helicopters with spotlights not being allowed too?
4:17 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097289410461265924
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
We haven't discussed 'copters yet or thermal imaging.
4:19 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097287835823034369
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
Isn't she already cracked?
4:13 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097289139739856897
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
Her shrink doesn't like us discussing such personal issues...
4:18 pm - 17 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1097289292760649728
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 42 others
Her shrink hasn't found the lost 999 marbles yet that's why :)
4:18 pm - 17 Feb 2019
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One can see perfectly from above that there’s no love lost between these 2:
“xnorabattyx18 Feb 2019, 23:17:00
Oh and just because we were 'polite' I am sure that is something that escapes your royal highness, quite sure in fact, there is no love lost between frog an I, it was called being polite, try it some time.”
What does the 'missing files' have to do with your guff?
DeletePerhaps look to your own followers who do actually follow frog and other 'shills' as you call them rather than myself? Who are you to dictate? NO ONE. End of story.
Our guff is very objective:
DeleteDo you believe the 3 Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine, 4 bottles of water and 2 juices in one night, yes or no?
You can't understand can you that you're not god?
DeleteJust like the BRT - Have you found a photo of it not being there before the 3rd yet? The tapas bar that is? And I won't answer unless YOU begin to provide proof of your claims like you demand from everyone else.
Do YOU believe the Hynd's did or didn't?
DeleteI fail to see where you are objective at all. I guess I missed something considering your relentless tirade against others.
DeleteAre you 'objective' when you mock others tweets?
DeleteWhen you ignore facts?
Where's the objectiveness there?
Silverdoe,
DeleteTo your 19 Feb 2019, 16:13:00 comment:
- “You can't understand can you that you're not god?”
Not with a capital letter? At least your friend Karen Sanders did us more justice! We’re offended.
- “Just like the BRT - Have you found a photo of it not being there before the 3rd yet? The tapas bar that is?”
No. But we have shown photos of the esplanade in September that year, and those show clearly that there was no BRT. Apparently, according to you, the Tapas just threw away the table that had a historic value between May and September, right during the high season.
If Dianne Websters had given to the PJ the photos she said she took of the dinners, this wouldn’t be a question. But it is.
You know, this could be quickly solved. You could ask your friend Jules to provide the photos as the mails she has that prove beyond a doubt that there is a BRT. By coincidence, it just so happens that today we celebrate the first month of “Jules-is-going-to-own-Textusa” day, as she promised she would on Jan 19.
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From your 19 Feb 2019, 16:15:00 comment:
Do YOU believe the Hynd's did or didn't?
No, you don’t believe that the 3 Hynds drank 13 bottles of wine, 4 bottles of water and 3 juices on the night of May 4 as stated on the Tapas sheet that day.
See how simple it was?
And do you realise that this you said in your 19 Feb 2019, 16:13:00 comment is absolutely ridiculous: “And I won't answer unless YOU begin to provide proof of your claims like you demand from everyone else.”
You see, not answering is answering. Every SINGLE time we have asked and you avoided answering you have clearly answered that you like us don’t believe either. Because if you believed in the Tapas staff as you claim to believe, the first time we asked you would have answered “Yes, I believe, the Tapas staff said so, so I believe them”.
By not answering you basically replied something similar to “I don’t believe they drank that much but as I can’t say that, I’ll avoid answering and will dodge the question”.
When you dodged it, and more so by the number of times you did, you have answered FULLY the question.
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From your 19 Feb 2019, 16:32:00 comment:
- “I fail to see where you are objective at all. I guess I missed something considering your relentless tirade against others.”
You are using “Appeal to motive” to avoiding answering the question that has been put to you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive
“Appeal to motive is a pattern of argument which consists in challenging a thesis by calling into question the motives of its proposer. It can be considered as a special case of the ad hominem circumstantial argument. As such, this type of argument may be an informal fallacy.
A common feature of appeals to motive is that only the possibility of a motive (however small) is shown, without showing the motive actually existed or, if the motive did exist, that the motive played a role in forming the argument and its conclusion. Indeed, it is often assumed that the mere possibility of motive is evidence enough.”
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From your 19 Feb 2019, 16:47:00 comment:
- “Are you 'objective' when you mock others tweets?”
Besides playing again with the appeal to motive, one can only mock what deserves mockery. Fact cannot be mocked. What is not factual, what is untrue, what is a lie that is said pretending to be factual or truth. So yes, we are very objective when we mock what is not factual, what is untrue, and what is a lie.
- “When you ignore facts?”
Please list the facts that we have ignore.
Please do not mention the make-up photo. About that we went as far as we are willing to go in our debate here last year with K9Truth. We are not ignoring it, we are avoiding saying any more than we have said about it on purpose.
Other than that photo please list others facts that we have ignored or accept that you are a liar.
- “Where's the objectiveness there?”
To answer, we have to wait what facts (note the plural) that we have ignored. We will be waiting for the list we are certain you will put together.
You've just proven my point beautifully - Have a nice day :)
DeleteTo Jules "I've deleted my account" 007
ReplyDeleteTextusa and myself BOTH are taking advantage of Debbie? Even if true why do you care?
I respect Debbie's opinion as a friend who says she has seen proof of her theory. I have no reason to doubt her.
In fact, I trust Theresa May to get a brilliant deal on Brexit MORE than I will ever trust you.
I would also like to say the Textusa blog has been more polite and informative than many other people I have asked for explanations from.
Let's just give up on the fascination of who DLP talks to and/or what she thinks and get your own house in order. That's if you ever re-appear to....what is it you do again??
Elaine Strachan
I have been on the F.B Anti groups for a few years now, and learnt the facts, but was also interested in why yhe cover up, over the years ive wrote i believe in pedophilia, satanic rituals, you name it, ive believed it, but one thing i must get straight, it is not the members of these groups i have an axe to grind, its the bloody owners, this is only aimed at the anti groups that wont allow ''swinging posts" or even discussing the Texusa blogs, now that is a red flag like many others, These owners are you sure they are genuine? try talking about swinging and you will see, once everyone accepts that this could be possible we can move on with the case.
ReplyDeleteD.L.P
its astonishing that all those awful possibilities are freely debated, never shut down, in fact pushed to the fore. They have never been blocked or sued but allowed to continue on every blog, twitter and every forum. Swinging though oh no!! Shut it down and fast, belittle those who mention it as a possibility and change the subject quick. Ask yourselves why? Why only the swinging? Something tells me Textusa has hit the nail on the head. Keep it up and whilst I’m here, any news on the Jules emails she promised to reveal? No, thought not.
DeletePlease re-read my comment above - who is the only person who has received death threats? with all the accusations you can think of against the McCanns, and because of this one person's belief in swinging, this said person receives death threats. Yes Anonymous, I agree "Textusa has hit the nail on the head - keep it up".
Deletehttps://twitter.com/CarlaSpade/status/1097642876576677889
ReplyDeleteCarla Spade @CarlaSpade
He's in the rosta 👇
I know who EACH one of those people are. Or who they are SUPPOSED to be.
#McCann
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3:43 pm - 18 Feb 2019
[First picture attached is a partial transcript of a comment from us in the current post:
“Textusa 18 Feb 2019, 20:52:00
(Cont)
Tiago Barreiros (who we have previously called wrongly Tiago Marreiros in a comment), and although he doesn’t appear in the Tapas rosta, said this:
“That the nine individuals, including the family of the missing child, were included in the half pension regime, having the right to a dinner (menu that included starters, main dish, desert and free drinks [bebidas à descrição]), being that all other drinks (aperitifs, and after dinner drinks) were paid separately using the access card [cartão de acesso.””]
[Second picture is the rosta with an arrow pointing to “Tiago” in the names of the day shift.]
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We have explained our reasons as to why we say Tiago Barreiros (wrongly called by us as Marreiros) is not on the rosta:
“Textusa7 Feb 2019, 12:47:00
But let’s start and debunk this “bar tab” defense by using waiter TIAGO ROCHA MARREIROS.
And we will start by asking who is he on the Tapas ROTA? Is he Agapito, Cenoura, David, Tiago, Zé, Cebola, T. Freitas or Joe?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_605.jpg
There seems to be only 4 possibilities: Tiago or T. Freitas, if real names are used in the rota and ‘Cenoura’ (carrot) or ‘Cebola’ (onion), if nicknames are used.
By the way, both Cenoura and Cebola are common Alentejan surnames. We have never heard of anyone having a nickname of ‘Cebola’ but one must consider all possibilities.
‘Cenoura’ is a common nickname to designate red-heads but is used only at school level mentality. Also have never heard of an adult calling another adult of ‘Cenoura’ unless it’s a real name. Again, let’s consider the possibility because, as the reader can see, it ends up that TIAGO ROCHA MARREIROS can only be Cenoura.
T. Marreiros says he worked on May 3 from 09H30 to 17H30. That rules out all others out. Tiago, was off-duty and T. Freitas and ‘Cebola’ worked from 16H00 to 24H00.
That leaves out ‘Cenoura’ who worked from, says the rota from 09H30 to 18H00. Note, by saying he left at 17H30 without saying that he left earlier than he should have, Tiago ‘Cenoura’ Marreiros implies that he thinks his shift ends at that hour and not a half an hour later as stated in the rota. That means he gets paid for half an hour he doesn’t work. In a month, or 22 working days, means he has received for 11 hours, or 1 day and 3 hours of work he hasn’t done.
But IF Tiago Marreiros is indeed ‘Cenoura’, then look at his working hours all week: 9H30 to 18H00 with 2 days off duty (meaning that taking into account Tapas is closed on Saturdays, this man has 3 days off every week, what a nice job he has found himself…). Absolutely no contact with guests who dined at Tapas.
And yet he has this to say: “That generally were always the same people who dined in the Tapas restaurant, however he possesses, in his work place, registries about all the people who reserved tables and dined in the Tapas restaurant. That in this act, supplies the listings of all the people who dined at Tapas, from the arrival of the family of the missing girl up to 04/05/2007.”
Is he ‘Cenoura’ or isn’t he? If he is, he works during the day so can’t possibly say the above.
If he isn’t, the who is he? We don’t know.”
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We see no reason, at least for now and until shown otherwise, to change what we have said about Barreiros and the rosta.
Either he’s not telling the truth (he speaks of the BRT, so he is not telling the truth), the rosta is a tampered document (which it is) or, as we believe it to be, it’s both (which it is).
Link to our comment mentioned above:
Deletehttps://textusa.blogspot.com/2019/02/jules-and-owning-brt-comments-continue.html?showComment=1549543671382#c6147726794440098277
And the Frog provides evidence that ambulances do NOT use sirens at night:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097637491098771456
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @CarlaSpade
From an ex-resident of Luz..... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3165.msg404933#msg404933
3:22 pm - 18 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097646806396215297
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @CarlaSpade
It's NOT hearsay as Shining lived in Luz until 2 years ago.
It's evidence sirens were used after dark. You need to do better to prove YOUR assertions, especially the swinging.
I don't watch Judge Judy.
3:59 pm - 18 Feb 2019
The link in the first tweet directs us to this comment made on the Miscarriage of Justice forum:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3165.msg404933#msg404933
“ShiningInLuz
Re: Robert Murat and the challenges to his alibi.
Reply #45 on: May 11, 2017, 04:00:53 PM »
Quote from: misty on May 11, 2017, 02:21:26 PM
“Do you have links to any questions about the tone frequency of the sirens, please?
What evidence is there that any Portuguese emergency vehicles use their sirens late at night in quiet residential areas?”
We have had a single instance, when an emergency call was required to get an ambulance to our villa well after dark.
Something the size of the Starship Enterprise turned up, sirens blaring and a very impressive array of flashing lights. It repeated this process when it sped off towards Portimão hospital.
None of our neighbours checked what was going on.”
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Where’s the proof that ambulances in Portugal don’t use sirens? Because Shining in Luz (SIL) said it did. Just that is enough proof.
He even contradicts himself by saying the ambulance used “a very impressive array of flashing lights” (we imagine that it was an ambulance like all others…), so why use sirens in a small village like Praia da Luz? Is Praia da Luz known for its intense traffic and where drivers are known for letting ambulances pass after seeing “a very impressive array of flashing lights” in their rear-view mirrors?
Do add to the Village of the Damned ambulances that use sirens at night.
We remind that SIL is the man who says he’s never, ever, ever been to Tapas but is very familiar with the charging procedures used at Tapas.
He’s another so-called anti. But he’s unique because he’s the only anti we know who believes Maddie was abducted.
He has fed loads of misinformation about Praia da Luz to obfuscate the case. Like for example trying to convince people that Luz had loads of bars give the idea that it was an intense night entertainment hub.
This man has done what any Portuguese considers as the greatest insult to another Portuguese, which is to give another person’s name to a dog: “Goncalo”. Now he can say Goncalo, sit; Goncalo, fetch. For the Portuguese, that's demeaning.
We remind readers that that SIL is friends with the pillow snatcher Heriberto Janosch and gave the address of one of the Portuguese “suspects” for OG, who lived in Praia da Luz to Richard Bilton, who tried, unsuccessfully, to doorstep him.
DeleteAlways worth reminding people of this.
https://www.dnoticias.pt/leitor/cartas/519748-condutores-em-emergencia-CODN519748
DeleteSirens are only used during day
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098367626257072128
DeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @jules999x @annienonymouss and 6 others
Thought you were on holiday??
I'm actually pleased the consensus is there were no sirens at night, as I suspected.
3:43 pm - 20 Feb 2019
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And the Frog hangs out to dry Shining in Luz, confirming that he’s a liar.
And confirms that Jenny Murat did not hear ambulance sirens in the middle of the night.
As the May 4 photos show very clearly, Praia da Luz is not an innocent bystander in the hoax.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1097651855352569857
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
For Textusa:- There were 5 people in the Hynd party - 3 adults & 2 children. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P2/02_VOLUME_IIa_Page_337.jpg
4:19 pm - 18 Feb 2019
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And we stand corrected! It’s even worse when we have posted this link ourselves twice! And to make our mistake even worse, on the Tapas sheet for Friday it does say “3 Pax” for the Hynds!
As the Portuguese say, a mistake that didn’t bite us because it can’t. Our apologies to our readers.
Does this change in any way what we have said? No, it even makes it more absurd. Because now one has to add the non-alcoholic drinks to what this family drank that night: 4 waters and 2 juices. Adults had to have these as well.
So if before, when we wrongly said the Hynds were 2 adults and 2 children, we had them drink 6.5 bottles of wine each.
Now, with the correct number of 3, it means that they “only” drank 4 1/3 bottles of wine each. But now it also means that on top of the alcohol they also drank 4 bottles of water. And 2 juices. It means 2 of them drank a juice and a water on top of the alcohol and the other 2 waters. Does this make any sense? It’s much more absurd, we would say.
Our apologies to our readers, and a thank you to the Frog for correcting us and showing that the entire thing was even more ridiculous than we had said it was.
Interesting comment in reply to Frog’s tweet above:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/ericson_niklas/status/1097764622717857792
Niklas Ericson @ericson_niklas
Replying to @FragrantFrog
Another famous finance shark who stayed at OC that week together with millionair Edmonds, investors from Landsbanki, Directors from Hedge Fund, Dr's and people from the pharma industry.
This mediocre resort with freezing pools must have been very popular within well paid people.
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11:47 pm - 18 Feb 2019
[Picture attached says:
Contact Alistair Hynd
Offices: London – Farringdon Street
Services: Project finance, Financial modelling, Valuations, Transactions
Sectors: Government and public sector, Healthcare, Private equity, Real estate and construction, Social housing, Transport and logistics, Infrastructure, Retail]
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To those who use the argument that VIPs would never choose Praia de Luz, it seems “this mediocre resort with freezing pools must have been very popular within well paid people.”
https://www.prweek.com/article/656479/mark-warner-hires-bell-pottinger
DeleteWe’ve mentioned this before but worth saying again after the comment above.
Why were they in Praia da Luz 1 week before?
Don't know, but Martin Brunt said twice that the McCanns had been in Praia da Luz 'for two weeks'. If it was anyone else I would probably disregard this information, but Brunt has got form where this suspicious case is concerned.
DeleteMakes one wonder how much he actually knows, especially seeing his involvement in the Brenda Leyland tragedy. Sky News have a lot to answer to, they've been pro-McCann all the way through, even when the dogs were brought in.
Interesting tweet thread regarding the Moyes:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098010523843678209
The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay
Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 27 others
Does anyone know the name of them staying in the top apartment on the 3rd , above Mrs fen ?
4:04 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098012466003480577
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others
That would be the Moyses.
4:12 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098016061495099392
The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay
Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others
Ta, yeah that’s them ,, may as well ask you first GL , what’s there story, a news report says they heard Kate say they’ve took her and Gerry scriking on someone’s shoulder , yet I thought they heard nothing as was woken with a knock on the door after the alarm was raised
4:26 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098017794363408384
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others
Apparently they went down into the front car park after the knock on the door, not sure what time exactly but I think the GNR were already there. Press reports seem embellished with half-truths.
4:33 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098020870281412608
The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay
Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others
Embellished is an understatement , what gets me is this, how can a newspaper print that they seen Gerry upset and heard Kate shout they’ve taken her, when in fact they had to be woken by staff from the hotel
4:45 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098022386555867136
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id52.htm Scroll down to 14th August 2007 for a transcript of Susan Moyse's interview with Radio Stoke. I don't know what they heard & saw after joining the searches.
4:51 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098024885807403008
The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay
Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others
Thanks for that , that’s what iv seen on YouTube, I think this couples explanation on what they did on that night is unbelievably important.
5:01 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098026880031174657
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others
They were on their balcony at the back of their apartment after returning from their meal therefore had no sight of the front car park or area in which the intruder probably gained access to 5A. I don't see them as important witnesses, except to the McCanns mental state.
5:09 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098029313352499201
The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay
Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others
😁 you don’t see there statements as important even though they can hear and see the street and the tapas bar. And the fact they was on there balcony right at the time everything kicked off And they saw and heard nowt. I don’t have the same important meter as you mate
5:19 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098030873864212481
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @regretkay @Joysetruth and 26 others
Do you believe that nothing happened at just after 10pm (contrary to many witness statements) or do you think the Moyses may have been inside their apartment as oblivious as Mrs Fenn was until 1030pm?
5:25 pm - 19 Feb 2019
(Cont)
(Cont)
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098032527107862528
The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay
Replying to @FragrantFrog @Joysetruth and 26 others
In the Moyes case I think to much happened before 10 for them not to see anything or hear anything , I’m in my house and I can hear if someone’s talkin across the road , there on a balcony facing a quiet street , a great view of the street for what 40/ 45 minutes and nothing 🤔
5:32 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1098034748004360193
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @regretkay @FragrantFrog and 26 others
Mr. Moyes does not believe the McCanns. Plain and simple
5:40 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/regretkay/status/1098035427464880129
The Jam ( Justice And Morals ) @regretkay
Replying to @McCannCaseTweet @FragrantFrog and 26 others
Yeah , couldn’t work out why Susan Moyes didn’t suspect them , from what iv read anyway ,, I’m so glad you’ve said this 👍
5:43 pm - 19 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1098036029242535936
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @regretkay @FragrantFrog and 26 others
We don’t know??? Maybe they are being safe and playing good guy bad guy? People are obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics
5:46 pm - 19 Feb 2019
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According to Isabelle McFadden, the Moyes are “obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics” and are “are being safe”. And it’s not only the Moyes who are afraid, according to McFadden, of the “McCann Mafia tactics”, it’s the PEOPLE who are: “People are obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics”
We assume that the Tapas staff and others are included in said “people”. If the Moyes are scared, then the Tapas staff are as well.
As readers might imagine, this will now be our standard answer to all those who keep asking why hasn’t any of the Tapas staff spilled the beans yet. Like in this tweet exchange:
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092019558888685570
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @DuskatChristie @Chinado59513358 and 35 others
I can’t say it [swinging theory] it’s impossible, because we simply don’t know , with no evidence to support or debunk it . GA didn’t set much store by it and I can’t believe the staff wouldn’t sell their stories once they had been let go so that , to me , favours the absence of swinging #mccann
3:18 am - 3 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/DuskatChristie/status/1092022194689855489
SunsetChristie @DuskatChristie
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Chinado59513358 and 35 others
I get what yr saying Karen.But none of us really know the constraints the staff were put under to remain silent on any events of that week
3:29 am - 3 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092022671141945356
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @DuskatChristie @Chinado59513358 and 35 others
Of course , it just seems highly unlikely
3:31 am - 3 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1092032313448415235
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @DuskatChristie and 35 others
It does considering they were left with no job and income...
4:09 am - 3 Feb 2019
Our answer to the above is now and will be simply this:
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1098036029242535936
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @regretkay @FragrantFrog and 26 others
We don’t know??? Maybe they are being safe and playing good guy bad guy? People are obviously afraid of McCann Mafia tactics
5:46 pm - 19 Feb 2019
About the Moyes, we bring over to the blog what the Frog has linked above:
Deletehttp://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id52.htm
"We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say 'a little girl' had 'been abducted'; those... those were the words used", 14 August 2007
Search for Maddie BBC - Stoke and Staffordshire
14 August 2007 - Susan Moyes owns an apartment two floors above the one the McCanns stayed in.
Transcript
By Nigel Moore
Question: This is a story you've followed incredibly closely because you were involved on the night; you helped the police and the family in looking for Madeleine, didn't you?
Susan Moyes: Yes, we did and, yes, very, very concerned... concerned for the family and followed it, every day... every day.
Q: Can you take us back to that night and... and what you were doing and when you first heard there was a problem?
SM: Sure. We went out for a meal about 7 o'clock, down in the town, we walked back about 9 o'clock, round past, errm... the... the church, round past the supermarket, back to the apartment, went out on the balcony about quarter past nine - everywhere was peaceful, everywhere was lovely - we then went to bed.
We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say 'a little girl' had 'been abducted'; those... those were the words used. So, we got dressed and joined in the search, we were out until about four in the morning with, oooh… about, I don't know, thirty people... thirty other people, maybe. The Mark Warner team were out, errm... and other guests at the Ocean Club.
Q: Now, to... to put it into perspective, we've all seen the pictures of the apartment where the McCanns were staying. How close is yours to theirs?
SM: Directly above, errm... we are but one above. Mrs Fenn, that lives there, was in the apartment below us and then below that was the McCanns, so directly above.
[Picture inserted with the following caption: “The Moyes were sat on their balcony at 9:15 PM but report nothing suspicious” ]
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Q: And, errr... you were out there for a considerable... a considerable period of time?
SM: Yeah, we went out on the Wednesday; the day before sh..., errr... Madeleine went missing and we were out for the month of May.
Q: Tell me about the affect all of this has had on the... the local community there.
SM: It was, errr... unbelievable really. Apart from the disruption from the mass media, the helicopter - constantly circling round - and sheer disbelief really, everybody was completely, errm... well, amazed by it. Gobsmacked, really.
Q: What... I mean, what were the local community saying to you because obviously being out there such a time, you must have spoken to a lot of people about it? It must have been, if you like, the talk of the town.
SM: Mmm... There was a lot of criticism of the police, which... which we felt was unfounded, errm... at that time. And... really, a lot of... unsure about exactly what happened. How did somebody get in? Was it the front? Was it the back? Was it left open? Was it forced? A lot of different stories...
Q: Speculation, if you like...
SM: Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
Q: And... we've got a copy of the newspaper here - in fact it's one of today's newspapers - The Express and... and it's still front page news, of course. Back in the news, there...
(Cont)
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DeleteSM: Big... big style, yeah, yeah.
Q: How do you feel when you see the pictures here in the newspapers? I mean, have you... have you collected newspapers over the period?
SM: Oh yeah, I get the paper every day anyway but obviously followed it very closely and I just… disbelief, no way... no way do I feel they were any way involved in it. Not at all, no.
Q: How do you feel they… they've been treated?
SM: I think, errm... initially it was very supportive. Personally, I think probably if they'd left the Algarve maybe a month ago, errm... it... it would have been treated more favourably, I think.
Q: It's difficult to know how... how to handle that kind of situation, from their point of view though, I suppose, isn't it?
SM: Beggar's belief... it beggar's belief, yeah, you just don't want to be in that situation, errm... but, yeah, I can't understand this, errr... the turn of... of people's attitudes towards them, some being really quite nasty, unfounded and... and wrong, I think.
Q: Have the newspapers got it right in terms of... of where they were that evening, I mean, the distance from the... the restaurant to the apartment and what have you?
SM: Well, yeah, as the crow flies, errm... they're probably about right with the 50 yards but, in actual fact, you do have to... it's walled off, in a walled area - about six foot of wall - so you have to actually have to go through a little, errm... entrance building, out onto the road and then round to their apartment.
Q: And line of sight, is there any?
SM: Difficult... they wouldn't have had vision of the whole of their, errm... errr... balcony, they would only have had the top of it from... from where they were sitting, because of the wall and because of the flowers on top of the wall.
Q: How do you feel about the... the criticism of the McCann family for leaving the children?
SM: Harsh... very, very harsh. Hand on heart, we've all done something like that, I think, and errm... no, it's... it's just unfortunate. Just a sad, unfortunate accident.
Q: And how do you feel having been, if you like, errm... being swept along with all of this, having been part of this story from the start, being there, at that time when it all happened, I mean, I suspect as a family you must have talked about this over the dinner table for... for weeks and weeks and weeks?
SM: Yes... yes, we have, we have, errm... and I just can't get my head round it at all. I can't... I can't understand it and I don't... I don't know if it'll ever be resolved, really.
Q: You're off back to... to Portugal soon, I gather, and errm... how do you think Praia da Luz will be when you get back?
SM: Yeah, we go back in a couple of weeks, errm... and my husband has actually said for the first time he's going to feel very differently about it, errm... I... I... no, I'm fine about, I'm fine about it, errm... but, yeah, it’s a shame, it's kind of tainted what is a lovely... lovely spot.
She has an awful lot to say for someone who allegedly knows nothing, no wonder the witness statements have been scrutinised so heavily over time. Are any of them truthful, or was this one big scam where everyone was lying? There's too many UK connections for my liking.
DeleteJust a sad, unfortunate accident....sticks out the other being.....
DeleteDirectly above, errm... we are but one above. Mrs Fenn, that lives there...
How did she know it was an accident? Unless she'd been told and she was part of the scam from the beginning. The amount of people involved in this audacious cover-up is truly mind-boggling.
DeleteTextusa, are you absolutely sure everything that happened occurred on the third of May? Personally, I'm not convinced.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1098632498660167681
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @BourgeoisViews @thetruthnessie and 43 others
Conclusion used was in Almeida's interim report of 10/9/07. Amaral merely repeated it in his book, which is why it is libellous when done as private citizen.. SC said Amaral made a value judgement when expressing opinion but the value judgement was actually made by Almeida.
9:16 am - 21 Feb 2019
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Almeida did not write the report as his own conclusions, he writes as the conclusions of the PJ investigation. He happens to be the author but is representing an entity. An entity for which Mr Amaral was responsible for.
So that report was, as Mr Amaral says in his book, the conclusions that he and the investigators worked with him came to.
The Portuguese Supreme Justice court stated very clearly that Mr Amaral had every right to write what he wrote.
If it was libellous, why didn’t the McCanns sue Mr Amaral for libel (and have that repetition discussed in court to see if it was libellous or not) instead of suing him for damages because the presumption of innocence meant they COULD be (but then could not be…) innocent and in THAT CASE, in the case they COULD be innocent, it would be damaging to them.
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1098665241032970240
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Replying to @FragrantFrog @BourgeoisViews and 42 others
And yet, you still claim Murat was involved when HE was cleared.
You still claim Mrs Fenn lied? You still claim the PJ failed?
Who refused to cooperate?
11:26 am - 21 Feb 2019
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The person who, while NOT answering the Hynds question, accuses us of ignoring fact – a list we are waiting for her to provide – is now trying to invent a fact. A fact that other “antis” have also tried to push in the past: that Murat was cleared.
Silverdoe, please provide evidence that Murat was cleared.
Murat was as much cleared as were the McCanns. He was not.
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Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @regretkay @MancunianMEDlC and 26 others
The calls may have been deleted from the handsets but there were records of them all in the phone provider's database. Why was it strange re. the hair? Madeleine was away from the apartment for most of each day.
2:27 pm - 20 Feb 2019
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Frog,
Why would the parents of an abducted little girl delete calls from their handsets?
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1098695923968946177
ReplyDeleteKilla Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Replying to @nowayjomo
As I’ve consistently said on here and my blog “abductors take, they don’t leave”. #mccann
1:28 pm - 21 Feb 2019
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Oh, Killa has a blog. Where he has consistently expressed his opinions… anyone know where we can read it?
Have you tried NotTextusa?
Delete"SM: Yes... yes, we have, we have, errm... and I just can't get my head round it at all. I can't... I can't understand it and I don't... I don't know if it'll ever be resolved, really".
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Wonderful bit of foresight so soon in the preceding's.
DO NOT PUBLISH identified reader at 22 Feb 2019, 16:41:00,
ReplyDeleteThank you for sending your theories, which we don’t agree with, having seen them before a long time ago.
We don’t support any theory which suggests death before May 3rd.