1. Introduction
There’s only one certainty about Gemma
O’Doherty’s article on the McCanns published on paper edition in the Village Magazine, on
Saturday, Feb 3 2017, “Maddie: did the BBC bend the truth?” (published online today, Feb 9 at 14:17) and which is best expressed in a popular
Portuguese expression: the mountain gave birth to a mouse [a montanha
pariu um rato].
It was disheartening, that’s a fact.
In it
and around it, it has many other facts, open to interpretation. As
always, we will say what we think and leave it for the readers to make their own judgement about our opinions.
I promised a friend on
the night before the article was due to be published, that I would tell
her on a scale on 1 to 10 what I felt about it once I read it. On Saturday, I told
her this “I think it’s a 3 or a 7, note that is not from 3 to 7 but one
or the other, but I’m still not sure what value to give it”.
We have since changed our minds and have downgraded that 3 into a 2.
2. Meddling
When
we saw that Colin Sutton was part of the article as a reliable source
we knew instantly that the article had been meddled with by the other
side. We will get back to Gemma later but it only took this for us to see she is not the independent journalist she claims to be. Nor the magazine is as
independent as it claims to be.
This post will be about Colin Sutton but do keep In mind that in reality it isn’t, as it’s about Gemma O’Doherty’s article.
But
Sutton’s presence in it is so important that we feel that it merits
being analysed in depth and hopefully at the end of the post our readers
will agree with us.
The article says this about Sutton
“According to media reports. Sutton had been tipped to head up the new
probe by British police in 2010. He claims he received a call shortly
after these reports from a high-ranking friend in the Met who warned him
not to take on the job as he would not be happy being told what he
could and could not look at.”
We dealt with this in detail in our
post “New knight in town” and we shall repeat here the motto we
invented then “Shalt thou speak against the McCanns and thine is the
glory, the respect and the awe owed to a hero by his fellow citizens”.
3. Widening a narrow focus
Let’s start with a correction of what was stated above in Gemma O’Doherty’s article.
When
Sutton first stepped on to the stage to play the lead role in a play
called “Biased Grange, useless Grange” he said something different
than the “who warned him not to take on the job as he would not be happy
being told what he could and could not look at” from the article. Then it was said very clearly that the “'Narrow focus' [of Operation Grange] would be to prove
Kate, Gerry and Tapas Nine innocent, he [Colin Sutton] said.”
This was said on
May 3 in a MailOnline article titled “UK detective refused to head up Madeleine McCann probe because 'Scotland Yard would order him to prove Kate and Gerry were innocent and ignore other leads'”
And
then, after he said it, he backpedalled to say that after all no one
told him there was a narrow focus and this was all an assumption on
his part.
One does not make a mistake with which costume one walks onto a stage wearing. For example, one does not show up dressed
as Macbeth to play the lead role of Robin Hood.
However, one may make the mistake of choosing the wrong clothing for the costume of the role one intends to play.
The
“assumption” of a narrow focus, was just Sutton entering the stage all
dressed up as Robin Hood but forgetting to put on the tights. On
realising he made a mistake he goes off, puts them on and returns,
expecting the audience to forget what they had seen.
But as the
play had the music score composed by the Pied Piper and was being played
by the Symphony Orchestra of Hamelin, many seemed to “forget” that he had
forgotten to wear tights when he first entered the stage.
4. Debunking a myth
The
people enticed by Sutton’s Pied Piper music didn’t even notice how
deceitful the title of the Daily Mail article was: “UK
detective refused to head up Madeleine McCann probe”.
Time to
debunk the myth that Sutton refused to head Operation Grange. In fact,
as we will show later, we have reason to believe he accepted it when it
was offered by someone who didn’t have the authority to make such a
proposal.
To refuse something one has to be offered something, and publicly no one has offered the job to Sutton.
We would like anyone to show us where him or anyone else has said that he was offered the job.
His “friend” warned him of an offer that would be made. That offer didn’t materialise as far as we know.
So why say he has refused when there was nothing to refuse? That Pied Piper can really play a flute, can’t he?
5. Sutton and evidence
Sutton,
6 days later after that Daily Mail article says this in his own blog
says “At the outset I should say that I don't know what happened to
Madeleine McCann. All the evidence available to me – and there is more
and deeper information available to the public on this than any case I
have looked at – does not convince me of any theory or scenario being
proved. Soon, in the coming months when my other projects are less
busy, I hope to take a proper analytical look at it all and come up with
some conclusions. But as things stand my position is that I don't
know.”
So, he has looked at evidence because he not only says
“there is more and deeper information available to the public on this
than any case I have looked at” as what he read has allowed him to not be
convinced “of any theory or scenario being proved”.
But on the
other hand he also says that “Soon, in the coming months when my other
projects are less busy, I hope to take a proper analytical look at it
all and come up with some conclusions”, and so implying, not stating,
that he, on May 9 hadn’t looked at ALL the evidence, which the previous
sentence implied he did.
Quite a ballet twist! All options left open with only one move!
But
let’s just spend a little time to look at what this individual who has
read all but hasn’t really, has to say about what he knows of the case.
6. Fertile period
We recommend that our readers do what we did and Google Collin Sutton for the period between April 20 2017 to April 30 2017.
The period before the Daily Mail article above was published. The reader will be surprised.
Let’s start with him pointing a finger at an Ocean Club employee.
This
was done in the article by Brianne Tojl for Daily Australia on April 23
2017, “Is there a secret witness to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann? Investigators believe employee at the Portugal resort may have evidence that could solve the case”:
“Scotland
Yard police officer Colin Sutton revealed to Sunday Night evidence
suggests a worker at the Ocean Club Resort could solve the case.
There is an employee, somebody who worked within the Ocean Villa complex who has some information or some knowledge that may be of assistance,' he said.”
Based on what is such a statement made?
There is an employee, somebody who worked within the Ocean Villa complex who has some information or some knowledge that may be of assistance,' he said.”
Based on what is such a statement made?
Note he uses the word “evidence”.
How did he know of it and who told him?
If
he got this from Operation Grange, is it a standard procedure for the
Met to leak to its retired officers information of ongoing
investigations?
Especially in an ongoing one that only has 4
officers dedicated to it and is highly sensitive politically to the point
of reporting directly to Whitehall?
Hardly likely. And if that is not the case as all indicates it isn’t, who is he running errands for?
Please
note (those who Googled like we did will have seen that) at this time
he defended that the most likely scenario was the human trafficking
gang.
He did this in the MailOnline article on Apr 22 2017 by
Katie French “Did Madeleine McCann wander off and have an accident? Was she stolen to order? Or was it a burglary gone wrong? Detective lays out theories about her disappearance”:
“Colin Sutton said 'most likely' scenario was she was taken by human traffickers”
But behold, in that same article he also says this:
“He said those closest to Maddie, including her parents, would have been the first line of inquiry for police.
But he added he believed Portuguese police appeared make this their only line of investigation early on in the probe.
He said: 'By concentrating just on that scenario they may have missed tips or other lines that meant going down a completely different investigation route.'”
Yes, please read it again.
But he added he believed Portuguese police appeared make this their only line of investigation early on in the probe.
He said: 'By concentrating just on that scenario they may have missed tips or other lines that meant going down a completely different investigation route.'”
Yes, please read it again.
He is
criticising the PJ for doing what he would a few days later criticise
Operation Grange for not having done: focusing on the McCanns.
If
one thinks the Mail misrepresented Sutton on this, this same thing was
said in the original article from the Mirror and the mirrored one in the
Sun.
In the Mirror:
“I can understand why the Portuguese police asked questions about the McCanns and the Tapas Seven.
As uncomfortable as it is, the first place I would have started looking is their group.
Without any other information to go on, the most likely scenario when a three-year-old girl disappears into thin air is that someone close to her knows what happened.
However, the police do appear to have decided quite quickly that was the only line of investigation they were going to take.
By concentrating just on that scenario they may have missed tips or other lines that meant going down a completely different investigation route.”
And in the Sun:
As uncomfortable as it is, the first place I would have started looking is their group.
Without any other information to go on, the most likely scenario when a three-year-old girl disappears into thin air is that someone close to her knows what happened.
However, the police do appear to have decided quite quickly that was the only line of investigation they were going to take.
By concentrating just on that scenario they may have missed tips or other lines that meant going down a completely different investigation route.”
And in the Sun:
“Sutton said those close to Maddie - her parents and their friends - would be his first port of call as a detective.
But he said Portuguese cops appeared make this their only line of investigation early on in the probe.
He said: "By concentrating just on that scenario they may have missed tips or other lines that meant going down a completely different investigation route."”
Note, this is a man, who we would learn a few days after, that before he was the beholder of the information given to him years before, that Operation Grange was supposedly biased against the McCanns and instead of praising the PJ for focusing on the couple, he criticises it.
But he said Portuguese cops appeared make this their only line of investigation early on in the probe.
He said: "By concentrating just on that scenario they may have missed tips or other lines that meant going down a completely different investigation route."”
Note, this is a man, who we would learn a few days after, that before he was the beholder of the information given to him years before, that Operation Grange was supposedly biased against the McCanns and instead of praising the PJ for focusing on the couple, he criticises it.
Criticises the PJ for having done just
what he would propose instead of going off on wild goose chases which
anyone who has just glanced at the PJ Files knows that all pointed to
the couple.
But let’s continue.
This same man, who is then
supposedly the “exclusive” beholder of the information of this bias of
looking away from the couple, which is something that to him rots away
the honesty and objectivity of Operation Grange has this to say in the
Daily Star article by Michael Havis on Apr 24 2017, ““MADELEINE McCann may have been kidnapped-to-order for a wealthy buyer, an ex-Scotland Yard detective claims.”:
“Colin Sutton, formerly of the Met
Police, told the Mirror: "The Mauritania line is certainly a possibility
and needs to be looked at.
"If someone wanted to get a three-year-old child into Africa it’s the obvious route. The infrastructure and contacts for people smuggling are clearly there."”
The man who would muster up the courage to denounce Operation Grange’s bias is helping it by promoting a theory that everyone knows to be ridiculous.
"If someone wanted to get a three-year-old child into Africa it’s the obvious route. The infrastructure and contacts for people smuggling are clearly there."”
The man who would muster up the courage to denounce Operation Grange’s bias is helping it by promoting a theory that everyone knows to be ridiculous.
And,
be prepared to be baffled, the man who, sorry to repeat ourselves, says
Operation Grange is biased in favour of the McCanns, has this to say
about what he thinks of the guilt the McCanns may have in the Daily Star
article by Douglas Patient article of April 23 2017, “Madeleine McCann: Top detective reveals what he believes REALLY happened”:
“The
ex-Metropolitan Police officer said there is no evidence the couple or
their friends had anything to do with Madeleine’s disappearance.”
No evidence?
So, one has to conclude, he has read the files! Otherwise, how could he make such a statement?
And what does he believe “REALLY happened”, as stated in the headline? This:
“And nearly 10 years on, he fears the case will never be solved and the only hope may be a death-bed confession.
(…)
"But
unless someone comes forward and tells us what really happened, then
I’m afraid I don’t think we’ll ever know," he continued.
"It remains and may always remain the greatest mystery of our generation."”
Note, all of the above refers to the period we mentioned, the last 10 days of last April. Just before he came in, opened the saloon doors to be the new hero in town.
"It remains and may always remain the greatest mystery of our generation."”
Note, all of the above refers to the period we mentioned, the last 10 days of last April. Just before he came in, opened the saloon doors to be the new hero in town.
7. Busy months
As we said, he
pulled off that ballet twist whereby one is unable to determine if
Sutton has read the PJ Files or not, as although he says never has so
much information on a case been available to him, he will dedicate more time
to the case, implying that he has to look at ALL the evidence but hasn’t
yet.
We would like to note that since May 9 2017, Sutton has
only written 2 more posts on his blog, on July 26 and 27 2017, none
related to Maddie.
As he on May 9 2017 said “Soon, in the coming
months when my other projects are less busy, I hope to take a proper
analytical look at it all and come up with some conclusions”, we can only assume he’s
still too busy with all his other projects.
He just found a bit of time to have a talk and collaborate with Gemma O’Doherty, it seems.
8. Portuguese failures
Gemma
O’Doherty had this to say about the Portuguese investigation: “The Met
said local police had already done this and there was no need to repeat
the process, but the Portuguese investigation was littered with failings
and best practice in cases like this dictates it is always important to
eliminate those closest to the child first.”
The Portuguese investigation was littered with failings, says O’Doherty.
Guess who said, on April 21 2017 (still that same fertile time period) that the Portuguese investigation was filled with errors?
You guessed it, Colin Sutton!
Let’s
transcribe on its entirety the Mirror article by Paul Jollands on that
day – do note this article was updated on May 2 2017 – “The 6 errors Madeleine McCann detectives made in the search for the missing youngster”:
“Detective Colin Sutton claims some of the mistakes made by the Portuguese police could have hampered the investigation
Portuguese police were accused of making a string of basic errors in the early days of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.
They range from failing to properly seal off apartment 5A to pointing the finger of blame at her parents.
Colin Sutton says some of the Policia Judiciaria’s errors hampered the investigation.
But he also said Portuguese authorities received unwarranted criticism concerning other aspects of the massive probe.
Here the ex-Met detective confronts the biggest errors made by the PJ – and defends other decisions they took.
1 The alarm was raised at 10.15pm, but first officers did not arrive in Praia da Luz until 11pm and the disappearance was not taken seriously enough
“This is an unacceptable delay, regardless of what they thought had happened to Madeleine,” says Colin.
“Even if they thought she had innocently wandered off, it should not have taken them 45 minutes to arrive.
“In a missing person case there is a judgment to be made about how it is treated. If it’s a 21-year-old who is missing after being out clubbing, you are not as worried as you would be about a missing three-year-old.
“I would like to think that any police officer who is told a three-year-old girl has gone missing will be instantly taking it extremely seriously.
“The question is do you treat it like a crime scene that needs to be preserved right from the start or is the most likely explanation that she wandered off? The Portuguese police were widely criticised for not sealing off the scene, making it a crime scene.
“But if there is a chance the missing girl could be wandering around lost in the immediate area, then that rightly takes priority. You are prioritising searching the immediate area rather than sealing off the scene.
“If there is sign of a violent struggle or forced entry then it would be different, but that wasn’t the case with Madeleine’s disappearance.
“If there was sign of forced entry, then your thinking starts going down the line of crime rather than just a missing person. But in the absence of any evidence your natural thought is she has wandered off.
“You think, ‘Let’s start looking for her’, rather than thinking of anything as sinister as abduction.
“That would have been the call for the uniformed officers who were first on the scene at the Ocean Club.
“Once she was not found in the immediate area then I would have asked the officers to look for evidence of a crime.
“I can well imagine that the Portuguese police’s initial thoughts were that they were going to find the little girl wandering around in her pyjamas no further than half a mile from the apartment.
“When the searches have proved fruitless I would want to talk to the parents.
“Very quickly there should have been the realisation that this was a crime rather than something more innocent. That should have been realised within 30 minutes, but in Madeleine’s case it clearly wasn’t realised all that quickly.
“It was not taken as seriously as it should have been.”
2 Spanish border officials were not notified about her disappearance until the following day and roadblocks were not put in place
“Abduction across the border is very rare, so the temptation is not to push the buttons on border alerts because it’s not worth it.
“There is a reluctance in policing to ‘overreact’. In 95% of cases such as this, there is an innocent explanation.
“There is a reluctance to escalate things until you are certain they need to be escalated. For example the Metropolitan Police get 30,000 missing person reports every year. In 2012 it was reported that 30 children had gone missing in Portugal since Madeleine’s disappearance.”
3 House-to-house inquiries were haphazard and in some cases did not happen at all
“House-to-house, or in this case apartment-to-apartment, inquiries should have happened straight away. It is a simple case of knocking on doors and asking the occupants if they saw anything.
“If you’re on holiday and see a three-year-old girl wandering outside in her pyjamas, the natural thing is to bring her inside and figure out where she is from.
“For all the police knew, Madeleine could have been inside one of those apartments. But it takes lots of resources to do that. Because it was a holiday complex, it was the equivalent of knocking on as many doors as an entire housing estate in the UK.
“That takes the kind of manpower that would not have been immediately available to the Portuguese police.”
4 The limited CCTV footage from the local area was not checked
“There would not have been too much CCTV in Praia da Luz 10 years ago. There still isn’t now.
“Therefore it might not have been at the front of their minds to check whatever cameras were around. In the UK, securing CCTV is among the first things you do and proves crucial to every investigation.”
5 Lack of information released to public from Portuguese police
“There was no publicising the case from the local police, which is unheard of back home.
“The public assistance in a case like Madeleine’s would have been huge because of the emotive subject - a missing three-year-old girl. It defies belief that they did not publish e-fits once they had them.
“Their lack of PR explains why the McCanns were so pro-active on that front. They were trying to fill the vacuum.”
6 Forensic examinations of the McCann apartment were poor and no DNA tests were carried out on Madeleine’s toy Cuddle Cat
“In a case like this, you start by looking where Madeleine was when she was taken.
“She was in her bed, probably clutching her fluffy toy Cuddle Cat. So that’s where the forensics begins. The abductor would have had to pull back the duvet, probably physically remove Cuddle Cat from Madeleine’s arms.
"If the reports are true that no DNA tests were carried out on Cuddle Cat before Kate washed it, that’s astonishing.
“There were photographs of officers in their normal clothes, not even wearing gloves, doing fingerprints. It looks like they just didn’t do a good job.”
Need we say more?
Portuguese police were accused of making a string of basic errors in the early days of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.
They range from failing to properly seal off apartment 5A to pointing the finger of blame at her parents.
Colin Sutton says some of the Policia Judiciaria’s errors hampered the investigation.
But he also said Portuguese authorities received unwarranted criticism concerning other aspects of the massive probe.
Here the ex-Met detective confronts the biggest errors made by the PJ – and defends other decisions they took.
1 The alarm was raised at 10.15pm, but first officers did not arrive in Praia da Luz until 11pm and the disappearance was not taken seriously enough
“This is an unacceptable delay, regardless of what they thought had happened to Madeleine,” says Colin.
“Even if they thought she had innocently wandered off, it should not have taken them 45 minutes to arrive.
“In a missing person case there is a judgment to be made about how it is treated. If it’s a 21-year-old who is missing after being out clubbing, you are not as worried as you would be about a missing three-year-old.
“I would like to think that any police officer who is told a three-year-old girl has gone missing will be instantly taking it extremely seriously.
“The question is do you treat it like a crime scene that needs to be preserved right from the start or is the most likely explanation that she wandered off? The Portuguese police were widely criticised for not sealing off the scene, making it a crime scene.
“But if there is a chance the missing girl could be wandering around lost in the immediate area, then that rightly takes priority. You are prioritising searching the immediate area rather than sealing off the scene.
“If there is sign of a violent struggle or forced entry then it would be different, but that wasn’t the case with Madeleine’s disappearance.
“If there was sign of forced entry, then your thinking starts going down the line of crime rather than just a missing person. But in the absence of any evidence your natural thought is she has wandered off.
“You think, ‘Let’s start looking for her’, rather than thinking of anything as sinister as abduction.
“That would have been the call for the uniformed officers who were first on the scene at the Ocean Club.
“Once she was not found in the immediate area then I would have asked the officers to look for evidence of a crime.
“I can well imagine that the Portuguese police’s initial thoughts were that they were going to find the little girl wandering around in her pyjamas no further than half a mile from the apartment.
“When the searches have proved fruitless I would want to talk to the parents.
“Very quickly there should have been the realisation that this was a crime rather than something more innocent. That should have been realised within 30 minutes, but in Madeleine’s case it clearly wasn’t realised all that quickly.
“It was not taken as seriously as it should have been.”
2 Spanish border officials were not notified about her disappearance until the following day and roadblocks were not put in place
“Abduction across the border is very rare, so the temptation is not to push the buttons on border alerts because it’s not worth it.
“There is a reluctance in policing to ‘overreact’. In 95% of cases such as this, there is an innocent explanation.
“There is a reluctance to escalate things until you are certain they need to be escalated. For example the Metropolitan Police get 30,000 missing person reports every year. In 2012 it was reported that 30 children had gone missing in Portugal since Madeleine’s disappearance.”
3 House-to-house inquiries were haphazard and in some cases did not happen at all
“House-to-house, or in this case apartment-to-apartment, inquiries should have happened straight away. It is a simple case of knocking on doors and asking the occupants if they saw anything.
“If you’re on holiday and see a three-year-old girl wandering outside in her pyjamas, the natural thing is to bring her inside and figure out where she is from.
“For all the police knew, Madeleine could have been inside one of those apartments. But it takes lots of resources to do that. Because it was a holiday complex, it was the equivalent of knocking on as many doors as an entire housing estate in the UK.
“That takes the kind of manpower that would not have been immediately available to the Portuguese police.”
4 The limited CCTV footage from the local area was not checked
“There would not have been too much CCTV in Praia da Luz 10 years ago. There still isn’t now.
“Therefore it might not have been at the front of their minds to check whatever cameras were around. In the UK, securing CCTV is among the first things you do and proves crucial to every investigation.”
5 Lack of information released to public from Portuguese police
“There was no publicising the case from the local police, which is unheard of back home.
“The public assistance in a case like Madeleine’s would have been huge because of the emotive subject - a missing three-year-old girl. It defies belief that they did not publish e-fits once they had them.
“Their lack of PR explains why the McCanns were so pro-active on that front. They were trying to fill the vacuum.”
6 Forensic examinations of the McCann apartment were poor and no DNA tests were carried out on Madeleine’s toy Cuddle Cat
“In a case like this, you start by looking where Madeleine was when she was taken.
“She was in her bed, probably clutching her fluffy toy Cuddle Cat. So that’s where the forensics begins. The abductor would have had to pull back the duvet, probably physically remove Cuddle Cat from Madeleine’s arms.
"If the reports are true that no DNA tests were carried out on Cuddle Cat before Kate washed it, that’s astonishing.
“There were photographs of officers in their normal clothes, not even wearing gloves, doing fingerprints. It looks like they just didn’t do a good job.”
Need we say more?
Does the reader now know the hand that held Gemma’s hand when she wrote that paragraph?
No, it wasn’t Sutton’s. Sutton is just a mere and pathetic parrot.
9. The detail he should not have known
We
won’t even try to correct all the inaccuracies stated by the man but
there’s something that he says which has to be highlighted, and that is
“#6 – Forensic examinations of the McCann apartment were poor and no DNA
tests were carried out on Madeleine’s toy Cuddle Cat.”
Particularly
when he says “The abductor would have had to pull back the duvet,
probably physically remove Cuddle Cat from Madeleine’s arms”.
As
an experienced police officer, he should know that removing an item without a
struggle the only forensic evidence one leaves is fingerprints.
The Cuddle Cat is made up of a material that does not allow the reading of fingerprints of those who picked it up.
And
if the Cuddle Cat would have, according to him, possible forensic
evidence of the alleged abductor, why not suggest the duvet be included
in this test as well? After all, according to him it was pulled back by
the abductor and then put back in place by him as it was found!
But
the fundamental question one has to ask Sutton is, apart from if the
Cuddle Cat should have been forensically tested or not, how does he know
the Cuddle cat was not forensically tested?
To know such a
detail, one would have to have read the PJ Files in detail, and he
still, on May 9 claims he still has to look at ALL evidence.
So, exactly, what evidence hadn’t he looked at yet on May 9?
Apparently,
enough of it as he between Apr 20 and Apr 30 was able to criticise the
PJ by bringing up details in the files, have the opinion that human
trafficking was the most likely scenario, recommend that the possibility
of Maddie being taken to Morocco should be looked at, point the finger
at an unknown Ocean Club employee, criticise the PJ for only focusing on
the McCanns and state that there was no evidence against the McCanns.
Either that or he’s just a blabbermouth who has absolutely no credibility at all, throwing soundbites to try and fool people.
The truth? Probably found if the reader replaces the words “just a blabbermouth” for the word “someone”.
Are we finished with Sutton? Hardly.
10. Sutton and the Grime dogs
On
his way to attempt for “anti-stardom”, Colin Sutton appeared on May 5
2017 in Martin Brunt’s Sky News documentary “Searching for Madeleine”.
Marin Brunt who, we remind readers will forever have his name linked to the tragic death of Brenda Leyland, in 2014.
This
Sky News documentary was aired the day after the Daily Mail article was
published in which Sutton criticised Operation Grange for being biased (the quoting from this video is taken from Pamalam.)
“MB [Martin Brunt] : 10 years on we can now reveal details of a secret
government report. It lays bare the failures of all the agencies
involved in the search for Madeleine.
Colin Sutton (ex-DCI de Scotland Yard): I'm not certain that it was investigated properly at the beginning and I still don't think it's been investigated properly now.”
Sutton is clearly implying that the said report states the Portuguese did a bad job. He persists in the idea that the Portuguese investigation was flawed even though we are certain he knows it wasn’t.
Colin Sutton (ex-DCI de Scotland Yard): I'm not certain that it was investigated properly at the beginning and I still don't think it's been investigated properly now.”
Sutton is clearly implying that the said report states the Portuguese did a bad job. He persists in the idea that the Portuguese investigation was flawed even though we are certain he knows it wasn’t.
The report,
on which we will focus later, was done by the British and the British
were only there to obstruct, pardon, support the leading agency that
was investigating the crime which was the Portuguese PJ.
So, he
keeps insisting that wasn’t properly investigated at the beginning.
Please read again the “6 mistake” list above proposed by him and not a
single one of them is one.
The only mistake the PJ made was not to
realise the number of people who were willing to get involved in
covering up what happened but who in a reasonable state of mind can
blame them?
Sutton states “We mustn't apply our standards in the
UK too strictly to what goes on in other places, they have a different
system, they have different police forces doing with different aspects
of the law.”
One must ask him, as he had absolutely slandered the Met the
previous day, if when he says “our standards in the UK” that he
thinks these are benchmarked by Operation Grange.
In the documentary, Brunt introduces the dogs:
“MB
: Almost 2 months after Madeleine disappeared, a news report revealed a
pact of silence. It said police were suspicious of the parents'
involvement. The article in the weekly paper SOL said the MCs and their
friends were thought to be hiding something. This was the first public
indication of where the early investigation was focused. Portuguese
police asked the British authorities to bring over two specialist dogs,
(note 4) one who detects dead bodies, the other traces of blood. The
dogs reacted in the MC apartment and in the family's rental car which
wasn't hired until 3 weeks after Madeleine disappeared. Forensic swabs
were taken and sent to the UK for analysis (note 5). The leaked results
or at least the Portuguese interpretation of them caused a sensation.
(reportage) : In the car the scientists have also found another, a second full match and police say that is the most damning evidence that's been returned by these forensic test results.
The dogs the forensic tests that followed, that was the turning point, wasn't it ?
CS [Colin Sutton]: It was the turning point for the arrests, yes, certainly, but we need to remember that the dogs are there to indicate areas where proper forensic tests, evidential tests should be made. Dogs certainly in the UK are not used as evidential things, it's just indication to focus the search for forensic materials.”
We also transcribe here the notes mentioned by Pamalam:
(reportage) : In the car the scientists have also found another, a second full match and police say that is the most damning evidence that's been returned by these forensic test results.
The dogs the forensic tests that followed, that was the turning point, wasn't it ?
CS [Colin Sutton]: It was the turning point for the arrests, yes, certainly, but we need to remember that the dogs are there to indicate areas where proper forensic tests, evidential tests should be made. Dogs certainly in the UK are not used as evidential things, it's just indication to focus the search for forensic materials.”
We also transcribe here the notes mentioned by Pamalam:
“Note
04: This is not true. The idea of bringing the British dogs was Prof.
Mark Harrison’s, as his July 23 report reveals. The PJ was then hardly
aware of HRD (Human Remains Detection) dogs. Following the NPIA criminal
profiler Lee Rainbow, the head of the PJ asked the assistance of the
National Policing Improvement Agency expert Mark Harrison MBE.”
“Note
05: It is not less interesting to mention where the dogs didn’t alert.
Sent in the two flats occupied by the MCs (one before and the other
after the disappearance) and the three flats occupied by the MCs'
friends/acquaintances, the dogs only alerted in the flat where MMC had
been seen for the last time.”
Look at how dismissive of the dogs Sutton is.
His answer could be used by any pro pretending to be anti: yes, the dogs are important but…
What he says is true but is very specious.
As
we saw in our post “The reliability of the cadaver dogs”, forensic dogs
used in tandem, as were Eddie and Keela, are absolutely reliable for the
conditions presented to them in apartment 5A.
Yes, their signalling needs the proper forensic backing to become evidence, no question about that.
But
to put this backing on simple terms, the dogs state with absolute
certainty that a corpse was present in the location they signal and it’s
then up to the forensics to answer the question, whose corpse was
there.
Forensics do not question the reliability of the dogs. They only have to answer the question above.
If
it turns out that it wasn’t the body they initially thought it would
be, then the question remains: whose body was it? And that needs to be
answered.
If the dogs signal a location that the possibilities to
answer that question are reduced, e.g. an open field where it could be
anyone, then it will be very difficult to answer. But in the case the
options are very limited, that limitation itself becomes evidence.
The
fact that Eddie signalled 2 locations in that apartment, doesn’t by
itself mean it was Maddie. It could have been another body. BUT it had
to be a body. The identity of that body is needed to explain the presence identified.
It’s a fact that a deceased person was in this
apartment, in 2 locations inside (living-room and bedroom closet) and 1
outside (the flowerbed).
Other facts linked to this: no one is
known to have died there, a child of a family spending a holiday there
and allegedly last seen alive inside it disappeared, there were no
visible signs of a break-in nor were there any vestiges that were left by
anyone that could not be explained, there was human DNA found splattered
on 2 walls and the back of a couch and about one of these stains (stain #3), the FSS report
concludes the following:
“286A/2007-CRL 3A & B Swabs collected from the floor of the apartment
An incomplete and weak DNA result comprising only some unconfirmed DNA components was obtained from the cellular material present in the dry swab (3A). The attempt to obtain a result from any cellular material that may have been in the same area and present in the wet swab (3B) was unfruitful, given that no profile was obtained. These samples were submitted for LCN tests.
An incomplete DNA result was obtained through LCN from cellular material present in the swab (286A/2007 CRL 3A). The low-level DNA result showed very meagre information indicating more than one person. Departing from the principle that all confirmed DNA components within the scope of this result originated from a single source, then these pointed to corresponding components in the profile of Madeleine McCann; however, if the DNA within the scope of this result originated from more than one person then the result could be explained as being DNA originating from [a mixture of DNA from both] Kate Healy and Gerald McCann, for example. DNA profiles established through LCN are extremely sensitive; it is not possible to attribute this DNA profile to a particular body fluid. nor to determine how or when that DNA was transferred to that area.
An incomplete and weak DNA result comprising only some unconfirmed DNA components was obtained from the cellular material present in the dry swab (3A). The attempt to obtain a result from any cellular material that may have been in the same area and present in the wet swab (3B) was unfruitful, given that no profile was obtained. These samples were submitted for LCN tests.
An incomplete DNA result was obtained through LCN from cellular material present in the swab (286A/2007 CRL 3A). The low-level DNA result showed very meagre information indicating more than one person. Departing from the principle that all confirmed DNA components within the scope of this result originated from a single source, then these pointed to corresponding components in the profile of Madeleine McCann; however, if the DNA within the scope of this result originated from more than one person then the result could be explained as being DNA originating from [a mixture of DNA from both] Kate Healy and Gerald McCann, for example. DNA profiles established through LCN are extremely sensitive; it is not possible to attribute this DNA profile to a particular body fluid. nor to determine how or when that DNA was transferred to that area.
[Note that John Lowe does not say his usual “In my opinion, there are no indications that justify [confirm/prove] the theory that any member of the McCann family had contributed DNA to this result” about swab 3A, from stain #3]
A low-level DNA result was obtained through LCN from the cellular material present in the swab (286A/2007 CRL 3B). In my opinion, there are no indications that justify [confirm/prove] the theory that any member of the McCann family had contributed DNA to this result.”
A low-level DNA result was obtained through LCN from the cellular material present in the swab (286A/2007 CRL 3B). In my opinion, there are no indications that justify [confirm/prove] the theory that any member of the McCann family had contributed DNA to this result.”
[A very specious thing to say, as this is only true for swab 3B. However, he has just stated above that another sample (swab 3A) from that same stain (stain #3) is from the McCanns, so he’s basically using very speciously the true inconclusiveness of Swab 3B to hide the damning conclusion of Swab 3A.
By not providing a conclusion on Swab 3A and giving one (a truthful one) for Swab 3B, he deliberately misleads those reading him and no one can accuse him of lying.
There are no 2 ways about it. If one includes both Swab 3A and Swab 3B in the statement “In my opinion, there are no indications that justify [confirm/prove] the theory that any member of the McCann family had contributed DNA to this result” implying that he’s speaking about stain #3 as a whole, then it is completely false as he has said above that Swab 3A is from the McCanns; and if one instead opts to say he’s just referring to Swab 3B, then the statement is true but then that means he has stated with absolute clarity that Swab 3A is made up of DNA from the McCanns]
But it’s also a fact that in Sept 2007, the same John Lowe in the Interim Report said this about both these swabs from stain #3:
But it’s also a fact that in Sept 2007, the same John Lowe in the Interim Report said this about both these swabs from stain #3:
“An incomplete DNA result was obtained from cellular material on the
swab (286A/2007 CRL 3a). The swab contained very little information and
showed low level indications of DNA from more than one person. However,
all of the confirmed DNA components within this result match the
corresponding components in the DNA profile of Madeline McCann. LCN DNA
profiling is highly sensitive; it is not possible attribute this DNA
profile to a particular body fluid.
A low level LCN DNA result was obtained from cellular material on the swab (286A/2007 CRL 3b). In my opinion there is no evidence to support the view that Madeleine McCann contributed DNA to this result.”
[Note that John Lowe here reaches independent conclusions for each of the swabs, so same reasoning should be applied to his words in the final report]
Stain #3 is made up of 2 stains of 1 cm each, on the floor close to the wall and behind one of the couches.
It
doesn’t take much to connect the dots above, all FACTS, to come to the
conclusion beyond any reasonable doubt what Eddie and Keel signalled in
that apartment.
If one adds to the above the signalling by these same
dogs of the Renault Scenic and of clothing and items only linked to the
McCanns one HAS to go into unreasonable territory to conclude they don’t
mean what they mean.
But, Colin Sutton is dismissive of the dogs.
When
Brunt throws this question at him, when he had just the day before accused Operation Grange in
clear terms of not having questioned the McCanns, shouldn’t he have jumped at the chance and say something like: “It was
the turning point for the arrests, yes certainly, and we need to
remember that the dogs are there to indicate areas where bodies have
been which proper forensic tests, evidential tests should be made which would answer who they were. As it’s not known of any deaths in that apartment
and Maddie disappeared from there, the dogs are one major reason why the
focus should have been centred on the parents and a very important fact
that Operation Grange has ignored”?
Note, by saying the above he wouldn’t be accusing
the McCanns of anything, just using the dogs to give a very valid reason
for Operation Grange to question them and see what they had to say about
it.
But Sutton doesn’t seize this blatant and evident
opportunity given to him to fight for the truth. Instead he dismisses the dogs importance with his “…but we
need to remember that the dogs are there to indicate areas (…) it's just
indication to focus the search for forensic materials”.
Are we finished with Sutton, now? No, we’re not.
11. The secret government report
We break away for a moment from Sutton and focus on something that as we have said, Brunt brings up: a secret government report:
“MB : 10 years on we can now reveal details of a secret
government report. It lays bare the failures of all the agencies
involved in the search for Madeleine.”
We mentioned this report
in our post “Sky News - The Clarifying Report”. Then we said the fact that its
author was Jim Gamble, then head of the CEOP, was very telling and
clarified for us a lot of things.
During this documentary, the report is mentioned again the following times (we are again quoting, including notes, from Pamalam):
“MB
: The early confusion was detailed in a secret report ordered by the
Home Office and we've got a copy of it. It reveals an astonishing
catalogue of mistakes, accusations and growing distrust. What do you
make of it ?”
(…)
“MB : I've got hold of a secret
government report that details the problems that arose from the
beginning, not just in the Portuguese investigation, but in the reaction
of the British authorities too. The then home secretary Alan Johnson
commissioned the scoping report in 2009. It led to the involvement of
Scotland Yard. (note 3)
Note 03: Martin Brunt mentioned already that “secret” report in 2014. In 2009 Jim Gamble suggested it to the then HO Secretary Alan Johnson. AJ was substituted by Theresa May in May 2010. The report was then ready, but the issue was no priority for TM, hence there was no reason to solicitate Scotland Yard’s help.”
[Our note: The secret report passes judgement on the PJ, something we didn’t see mentioned in the Operation Task debrief]
Note 03: Martin Brunt mentioned already that “secret” report in 2014. In 2009 Jim Gamble suggested it to the then HO Secretary Alan Johnson. AJ was substituted by Theresa May in May 2010. The report was then ready, but the issue was no priority for TM, hence there was no reason to solicitate Scotland Yard’s help.”
[Our note: The secret report passes judgement on the PJ, something we didn’t see mentioned in the Operation Task debrief]
(…)
“MB
: The confidential report said that relationships were strained by
cultural procedural and legal differences and the UK was accused of
acting like a colonial power.”
[Our note: This is consistent with
the Operation Task debrief. However, cultural procedural and legal
differences are not mistakes. The Portuguese telling the British what
they can or cannot do on their jurisdiction is not them being bullies
nor are the British being victims. If mistakes happened because of this,
these would have been British mistakes and not Portuguese ones]
(…)
“MB
: As the search of Madeleine went on, her parents put their faith in
God, the village church became an almost daily refuge. In Fatima,
Portugal's holiest site, they prayed at the shrine of the Virgin Mary.
In Rome they met the Pope, he blessed a photograph of Madeleine.
Thousands of supporters tied yellow ribbons to await Madeleine's safe
return. While all this was happening, Portuguese detectives were making a
crucial error, according to the author (Jim Gamble) of the secret Home
Office report : I was shocked first and foremost when the MCs went
immediately under the Portuguese system considered suspects. That was
the first critical mistake, it was unfair and for the investigators
unfair with regard to the integrity of the forensic evidence that would
be captured and unfair to the MCs themselves. Clear the ground beneath
your feet first and foremost.
MB : According to the Home Office report, statistics suggest that in the majority of cases where very young children go missing and are later found dead, the family is involved. In addition to not questioning the MCs as suspects, the report says the UK team felt more could have been done by the Portuguese police to record quicker the details of all employees and there was a lack of confidence that enough work had been done around potential witnesses and suspects.”
[Our note: One, it confirms that Jim Gamble of CEOP was the author and two, the Portuguese are being criticised for doing what Sutton was claiming Operation Grange hadn’t done and should have, which was to zoom in on the McCanns.
MB : According to the Home Office report, statistics suggest that in the majority of cases where very young children go missing and are later found dead, the family is involved. In addition to not questioning the MCs as suspects, the report says the UK team felt more could have been done by the Portuguese police to record quicker the details of all employees and there was a lack of confidence that enough work had been done around potential witnesses and suspects.”
[Our note: One, it confirms that Jim Gamble of CEOP was the author and two, the Portuguese are being criticised for doing what Sutton was claiming Operation Grange hadn’t done and should have, which was to zoom in on the McCanns.
Also,
why does Brunt blatantly lie when he says “In addition to not
questioning the MCs as suspects, the report says the UK team felt more
could have been done by the Portuguese police to record quicker the
details of all employees and there was a lack of confidence that enough
work had been done around potential witnesses and suspects”? When did
the PJ not question the McCanns as suspects? When did the PJ not
record quicker the details of all employees?
Note, this “lack of confidence” mentioned is shown by the authors of the report and not by any of the McCanns.
And
doesn’t this “lack of confidence” demonstrate that from the British
point of view they were the ones supervising the investigation and were
quite displeased with the way the natives were going on about it?]
(…)
“MB
: 4 months after their daughter vanished, her parents were questioned
and then released. Their formal status, arguido, meant they were
suspects.
Lawyer (sept 2007) : No charges have been brought against them...
MB : A devastating turn of events which did nothing for their poor relationship with the police. It simply got worse. According to the secret Home Office report, the MCs complained of a lack of clarity and communication with the Portuguese police, and they said they were left for hours waiting to speak to someone. They described the situation as inhumane, it led to a long-lasting distinct lack of trust between all parties, the MCs, the Portuguese police and the UK authorities. This criticism is that the Portuguese reject.”
[Our note: When and where were the McCanns treated inhumanly? In fact, they were indeed treated differently compared to what any Portuguese citizen would in similar circumstances: they were discriminated positively]
Lawyer (sept 2007) : No charges have been brought against them...
MB : A devastating turn of events which did nothing for their poor relationship with the police. It simply got worse. According to the secret Home Office report, the MCs complained of a lack of clarity and communication with the Portuguese police, and they said they were left for hours waiting to speak to someone. They described the situation as inhumane, it led to a long-lasting distinct lack of trust between all parties, the MCs, the Portuguese police and the UK authorities. This criticism is that the Portuguese reject.”
[Our note: When and where were the McCanns treated inhumanly? In fact, they were indeed treated differently compared to what any Portuguese citizen would in similar circumstances: they were discriminated positively]
(…)
“MB
: According to the secret Home Office report, the MCs felt the original
Portuguese investigation was inadequate and so they had to take matters
into their own hands. The MCs sued the Leicestershire police because
they felt they weren't telling them what was being done to find their
daughter. The force eventually agreed to give them some information. The
MCs had already been using a number of different private investigators.
The confidential Home Office report reveals that the private
investigators working for the MCs gathered a large amount of information
which does not appear to have been shared fully with Portuguese or UK
police. The report recommends the MCs are encouraged and persuaded to
share this information. The document adds that it's "unusual" for
private investigators and police to work together but, because of the
"unique nature" of the case, it would be good to do so.”
[Our note: The Leicestershire police was sued? When? As far as we know, the McCanns made a bid for information as reported by the Telegraph on June 20 2008 (one month before the case was archived in Portugal and even before the FSS had finished writing up its specious report) in the article by Gordon Rayner, “Madeleine McCann: parents' court bid for information”, in which is said “Kate and Gerry McCann are to ask a High Court judge to order the release of police documents which they hope will kick-start the search for their missing daughter Madeleine, The Daily Telegraph can disclose” and “The McCanns hope their application to Mrs Justice Hogg will result in Leicestershire Police opening their files on scores of reported sightings of Madeleine, most of which have been passed on to them by police in Portugal, where the four-year-old disappeared in May last year.” Basically, arguidos demanding, not asking, for information they had no right to access, and that can hardly be interpreted as suing.]
[Our note: The Leicestershire police was sued? When? As far as we know, the McCanns made a bid for information as reported by the Telegraph on June 20 2008 (one month before the case was archived in Portugal and even before the FSS had finished writing up its specious report) in the article by Gordon Rayner, “Madeleine McCann: parents' court bid for information”, in which is said “Kate and Gerry McCann are to ask a High Court judge to order the release of police documents which they hope will kick-start the search for their missing daughter Madeleine, The Daily Telegraph can disclose” and “The McCanns hope their application to Mrs Justice Hogg will result in Leicestershire Police opening their files on scores of reported sightings of Madeleine, most of which have been passed on to them by police in Portugal, where the four-year-old disappeared in May last year.” Basically, arguidos demanding, not asking, for information they had no right to access, and that can hardly be interpreted as suing.]
(…)
“MB
: The Home Office report commissioned by Alan Johnson recommended that
Scotland Yard get involved and that's what happened. First the
Metropolitan Police reviewed the case and then launched their own
investigation, Operation Grange, in 2013. (note 8)
Note 08: The MCs sent an open letter, published in The Sun on May 11, 2011, to David Cameron, then Prime Minister, to remind him his pledge to think of MMC and ask for a review of the PJ Files. David Cameron was pressured by Rebekah Brooks who threatened to criticise daily Theresa May on the first page. So he yielded. And that’s how Scotland Yard was asked to make a review of the case, the funding coming from the Home Office.”
[Our note: A blatant lie, which Operation Task debrief shows very clearly. We will get back to this later]
Note 08: The MCs sent an open letter, published in The Sun on May 11, 2011, to David Cameron, then Prime Minister, to remind him his pledge to think of MMC and ask for a review of the PJ Files. David Cameron was pressured by Rebekah Brooks who threatened to criticise daily Theresa May on the first page. So he yielded. And that’s how Scotland Yard was asked to make a review of the case, the funding coming from the Home Office.”
[Our note: A blatant lie, which Operation Task debrief shows very clearly. We will get back to this later]
(…)
“MB
: Ten years on the police seems no nearer to solving the mystery of
Madeleine's disappearance. I've been looking at what's gone wrong. A key
source of evidence in any modern crime investigation is mobile phone
data. In this case, according to the secret Home Office report, there
was lots of it, but it was badly handled by Portuguese investigators.
The report says "a vast amount of cell site data has been gathered..
There is no evidence to indicate that the data has been fully
investigated or analysed.. The Portuguese should be encouraged to accept
UK help".
(to Colin Sutton) How vital to the original police investigation would that have been a more thorough analysis of the mobile phone data ?`
[Our note: “The report says "a vast amount of cell site data has been gathered.. There is no evidence to indicate that the data has been fully investigated or analysed”. Really? It’s not what the PJ Files show.
(to Colin Sutton) How vital to the original police investigation would that have been a more thorough analysis of the mobile phone data ?`
[Our note: “The report says "a vast amount of cell site data has been gathered.. There is no evidence to indicate that the data has been fully investigated or analysed”. Really? It’s not what the PJ Files show.
“The Portuguese should be encouraged to
accept UK help”. Why? Are the Portuguese children of a lesser god? What
did the British have in terms of technical resources, both material and
human, that the Portuguese didn’t? Nothing.
Is anything outside the UK to be considered by the British as “backward country”?]
(…)
“MB
: There is no British equivalent of Ernie Allen's missing child centre,
but the Home Office report did recommend one to avoid the confusion and
ill feeling that so dogged the first Madeleine investigation.”
Many times is this secret report mentioned as can be seen.
Please
note that we don’t know what sort of security clearance that Brunt has,
but apparently, a journalist of Sky News can read a secret report that
none of us can.
That means he can say whatever he likes about what the report says without anyone being able to contradict him.
Has
this report been distributed to other journalists? If so, why haven’t
they spoken about it. If not, why only to Martin Brunt?
And if he
doesn’t have a special security clearance, which we see no reason for
him to have, wouldn’t him having access to a classified document be
considered a serious breach of security and this be subsequently investigated?
He has shown he knew of this secret report in 2014 and had no problems whatsoever to speak of it again in 2017, so maybe the secrecy of the report is not exactly for security reasons.
By the way, just as a side note, we wonder who is the beholder today of this report.
12. Why lie about the Met?
We said that there was a blatant lie above. When this was said about the report:
“MB
: The Home Office report commissioned by Alan Johnson recommended that
Scotland Yard get involved and that's what happened. First the
Metropolitan Police reviewed the case and then launched their own
investigation, Operation Grange, in 2013.”
This was also mentioned in the Daily Mail article that attempted to catapult Sutton into “anti-stardom”, on May 3:
“The
documentary [the Sky one from which we quoted above] revealed details
from a Home Office report on the case, ordered by then Labour minister
Alan Johnson before the 2010 election, seen by Sky News' Martin Brunt.
The report shows that Gerry and Kate McCann's relationship with Portuguese police after they closed the investigation into her disappearance.
The Met took the unusual step of getting involved in the case in 2010 after the report was compiled, and recommends police collaborate with private investigators hired by the McCanns because of the 'unique nature of the case'.”
The report shows that Gerry and Kate McCann's relationship with Portuguese police after they closed the investigation into her disappearance.
The Met took the unusual step of getting involved in the case in 2010 after the report was compiled, and recommends police collaborate with private investigators hired by the McCanns because of the 'unique nature of the case'.”
The following are quotes from NPIA’s Operation Task debrief:
“This
incident room also had a Portuguese speaking British officer
permanently assigned to it. This officer was from the Metropolitan
Police and had experience of working on a previous serious crime inquiry
in Portugal.”
(…)
“The unprecedented level of response to this crime also involved the following agencies:
- The Home Office;
- The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO);
- The Home Office;
- The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO);
- A large number of UK law enforcement agencies;
- CEOP;
- The NPIA;
- The Serious Organised Crime Agency;
- The National Hi-Tec Crime Unit;
- The Anti-Kidnap and Extortion Unit;
- The Metropolitan Police Service;
- Telephone analysis experts;
- Media communication experts;
- The Forensic Science Service (FSS);
- The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).”
(…)
“During
the course of the investigation, the MIR was reviewed by the
Metropolitan Police Service in accordance with ACPO policy for major
crime inquiries.”
(…)
“Operation Task was overseen by a Gold Group led by an ACC from Leicestershire Constabulary. This consisted of:
- The CPS;
- The FCO;
- The CPS;
- The FCO;
- The Home Office;
- ACPO;
- CEOP:
- The Metropolitan Police Service;
- The NPIA;
- The SIO.”
(…)
“The following were represented on the Operation Task Gold Group:
- The CPS;
- The FCO;
- The CPS;
- The FCO;
- The Home Office;
- ACPO
- CEOP
- The Metropolitan Police;
- The NPIA;
- The SIO.”
(…)
“There
is no nationally agreed model for carrying out a risk assessment of
this sort. He factors that will be relevant will differ between
developments as will the range of ways in which risks can be managed.
Officers from the Metropolitan Police who attended the workshop
suggested that the following headings had proved useful in the past and
they are offered here as a guide to the type of issues that should be
considered:...”
It’s very clear that the Metropolitan police was involved from day 1.
So
why say this lie on the Daily Mail that “The Met took the unusual step
of getting involved in the case in 2010 after the report was compiled”,
which Brunt repeats in his documentary?
13. The running mouth
The
reader may be asking themselves why have we deflected to this report,
on a post about Gemma O’Doherty’s article on the McCanns – or should we
say the Smith sighting? – and which had been until then solely
concentrated on Colin Sutton.
We did it to emphasize the link we believe exists between Colin Sutton and Jim Gamble.
In
our post “New knight in town”, we questioned how did Jim Gamble know
that there was going to be a review on the Maddie case and that Sutton
would head it, even before Theresa May was Home Secretary.
To those
saying Sutton refused the job and that shows him to be good man, we
remind them that he didn’t refuse anything because he wasn’t offered
anything. And if he was offered something then that we don’t know, then that something was offered by someone who didn’t have the authority to offer it as time has proven.
He hasn’t even suggested he would refuse if the alleged
proposal had materialised, In fact the NOTW article by Lucy Panton “Top cop spearheads new probe into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann” of May 9 2010,
suggests the opposite:
PROBE: Det Chief Insp Colin Sutton |
“Det Chief Insp Colin Sutton, 49, who has
been involved in some of the UK's biggest inquiries - including the
murder of Milly Dowler and the terror reign of the Nightstalker sex
beast - is seen as the best man to handle the challenging review.”
If
his friend had called him, as he Sutton claims, and if Sutton had felt
disgusted about the idea of leading such a biased investigation, would
his name have made it to the article? With a picture of him? No, it wouldn’t.
It shows a man feeling quite honoured to have been the chosen one.
Or
are people suggesting that first the paper published his name and then
his friend called him? Or that his friend called him, Sutton showed
disagreement and even so someone insisted in putting his name and picture in the
paper?
But the involvement between Sutton and Gamble goes, in
our opinion, much deeper, and we have Martin Brunt to thank
for showing us just that.
In the documentary this happens:
“MB : The early
confusion was detailed in a secret report ordered by the Home Office
and we've got a copy of it. It reveals an astonishing catalogue of
mistakes, accusations and growing distrust. What do you make of it?
CS : I think we say in there that the various agencies and parties that were involved in the early parts of the investigation had different priorities and they sometimes competed against each other and I think we will see that they hampered the investigation from the very start.”
Let us put in caps what is relevant: “I think WE say in there that…”
CS : I think we say in there that the various agencies and parties that were involved in the early parts of the investigation had different priorities and they sometimes competed against each other and I think we will see that they hampered the investigation from the very start.”
Let us put in caps what is relevant: “I think WE say in there that…”
Who is WE?
Sutton is admitting co-authorship of the report, together with Jim Gamble.
There
is the English expression of this being a “slip of the tongue” but we
think this is best described by the Portuguese one that says “his mouth
ran towards the truth” [fugiu-lhe a boca para a verdade].
To
those now scrambling to find an excuse for this faux pas, we only have
to say that you can only speak if you haven’t before picked up on any
slip of the tongue made by the McCanns and held them accountable for it.
Please use the same filter and standard.
The connection between Sutton and Gamble is evident.
If Sutton was not part of the hoax, would Martin Brunt have even invited him to the documentary? Of course not.
Brunt has shown through the years that when it comes to Maddie and what happened to her, truth is not exactly his objective, as Brenda Leyland tragically found out.
14. The Sutton fallacy
Sutton
states, and ONLY in May 2017, that Operation Grange should question the
McCanns. This is not only a fallacy as it is helpful to the other side
as we will show.
In terms of it being a fallacy, we all know the
McCanns and the other Tapas 7 were extensively questioned and all is in
the files.
There is nothing more that, individually, any of the Tapas 9 could be questioned about.
Some argue that Kate still has the 48 questions to answer but this is a false argument.
Firstly,
because if that’s what Sutton is on about, he should clarify that and
not put Kate’s lack of answering together with Gerry, who answered all
the questions put to him by the PJ.
Sutton should then separate
the 2 and say clearly that “Operation Grange should question Kate as she
hasn’t answered 48 questions she was asked by the Portuguese
authorities”.
Secondly, even if it was all about making Kate answer
those 48 questions, it would be useless and if Sutton doesn’t know
that, he should.
Kate did not answer those questions because the Portuguese justice system allowed her to do that. An arguido is allowed that.
This
means that even if the UK gets her to answer those 48 questions, that
would only satisfy the curiosity of some as it would be void of any
value legally.
Lest one forgets, Portugal is not “backward country” and the prosecution of this process is its responsibility.
Unless
Kate McCann volunteers to answer those questions under the legal rules
of the Portuguese justice system and is supervised by them while doing
it, any answer outside this to those 48 questions has no legal value in
Portugal.
So, we only don’t say that Sutton asking for the McCanns to be questioned by
Operation Grange is just a soundbite from his
Pied Piper’s flute because the people who are pulling his
strings may REALLY be interested for that questioning to happen.
Having
the McCanns brought in and questioned without success, would be seen as
Operation Grange exhausting all possibilities without success, running
out of all possible diligences.
Having done that, Operation
Grange could say, see, we have done ALL we could and there’s REALLY
nothing there AND as there’s nothing more we can do, the ONLY thing we
HAVE to do is to archive the entire thing, our apologies for not having
been able to do better and having wasted so much of our time and of your
money. Now, go home.
Basically, just saying what Sutton said in Brunt’s documentary:
“MB : So are you saying that the past six years and 12 million pounds has all been a waste ?
CS : I suppose I am, because we're not really any further forward, we're not any closer now to knowing what happened to Madeleine on that night, and I think we could have been.”
Need he be any clearer on what he wants?
CS : I suppose I am, because we're not really any further forward, we're not any closer now to knowing what happened to Madeleine on that night, and I think we could have been.”
Need he be any clearer on what he wants?
But to those persisting that Sutton is a good man we have a challenge for them: defy Sutton on something.
There is ONE diligence left to be done.
Mr Amaral has challenged in 2016 for the authorities to do: the reconstruction.
We spoke of this in detail in our post “Reconstruction for May 3 2007”.
So,
all they have to do is ask Sutton directly if he supports a FULL
reconstruction of the events of the evening of May 3 2007. It’s a yes or
no answer.
If he says yes, then using the exact same power he
had to expose Operation Grange as biased, we want to see headlines
saying “Madeleine McCann: Top detective tells Operation Grange to help
the Portuguese police do a FULL reconstruction”
And with the
following subheading: “VETERAN detective Colin Sutton says that
Operation Grange should help the Portuguese police do a FULL
reconstruction of the events of the evening Maddie disappeared.”
If we ever get to see the above, we will fully apologise here to Mr Sutton.
Hopefully, our readers have realised why Sutton’s presence made us see immediately that the article had been meddled with.
This
has a good side to it, and that it clearly shows Sutton is their last
man standing. No one else seems to have both the shamelessness and the
lack of self-dignity required to play the part Sutton has.
15. Gemma’s article
About
Gemma’s article, some people may be tempted to piggyback us in trying
to discredit Gemma O’Doherty, we would strongly advise them not to do
that.
Some did just that after our “Sagresman” post and it turned out to be rather unpleasant for them.
We have said that we are going to give a 2 or a 7 to Gemma’s article.
And will now say the 2 is for content and 7 is for relevance.
In terms of content, we first gave it a 3 but have downgraded it to a 2. We will explain why next week, hopefully.
Please note that we have said in a comment that we think the majority of the article is truthful.
And we will say right here and right now what we don’t agree with in the article:
“The
crowds of summer had yet to arrive and the normally bustling streets of
the old quarter lay quiet” because as Mr Amaral states in his book the
nights then were NORMALLY very quiet. Gemma should have clarified that
the bustling happened in the summer months and it didn’t happen in the
timeframe Maddie disappeared to which the article refers.
“The
very opposite is true on social media. The internet swirls with
allegations and theories that the McCann story is littered with holes
and does not stack up. Countless videos have been posted YouTube by
armchair detectives challenging the parents’ seemingly at times bizarre
behaviour, in particular their reactions in certain interviews when the
finger of blame shifts towards them” because she calls us armchair
detectives while we prefer to call ourselves online journalists and because she
implies that we are only picking on the McCanns behaviour (such as body
language and subjective interpretations of their words) and even then
only when in the interviews in which they are blamed of something. The
true online journalists, in which we include ourselves, dispute facts
with facts. For example, when above we explained the relevance of the dogs, we listed FACTS and not once did we mention any “bizarre
behaviour.”
“Gerry McCann. a consultant cardiologist from
Scotland and his Liverpool wife Kate, a GP and anaesthetist. said they
had put their daughter and two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie to bed at
around 7pm, had drinks together for almost an hour and then left the
children alone to go to a tapas bar 50 yards from their apartment”
because saying the children were left alone is to promote a negligence
that promotes the abduction.
“She said she noticed that the door of the children's bedroom was “completely open” and that the window was also open and the shutters raised”, the reason we disagree with this we will say next week.
“But while Martin's evidence seemed compelling, independent and without motivation. much to his frustration. it was not given the attention it seemed to deserve”, because as the PJ Files show clearly that it was given the appropriate importance and the TVI documentary shows also that. This sighting has only been minimised by the UK Media (Channel 4 with the 2009 Mockumentary, Sky News with the 2014 UK Crimewatch and BBC with Bilton’s Panorama) and Gemma failed to point this out.
“She said she noticed that the door of the children's bedroom was “completely open” and that the window was also open and the shutters raised”, the reason we disagree with this we will say next week.
“But while Martin's evidence seemed compelling, independent and without motivation. much to his frustration. it was not given the attention it seemed to deserve”, because as the PJ Files show clearly that it was given the appropriate importance and the TVI documentary shows also that. This sighting has only been minimised by the UK Media (Channel 4 with the 2009 Mockumentary, Sky News with the 2014 UK Crimewatch and BBC with Bilton’s Panorama) and Gemma failed to point this out.
“The Met said local police had already done this
and there was no need to repeat the process, but the Portuguese
investigation was littered with failings and best practice in cases like
this dictates it is always important to eliminate those closest to the
child first”, because of all we said in this post.
And finally,
“According to media reports. Sutton had been tipped to head up the new
probe by British police in 2010. He claims he received a call shortly
after these reports from a high-ranking friend in the Met who warned him
not to take on the job as he would not be happy being told what he
could and could not look at”, basically the subject of this post.
We
have a slight disagreement with her when she says “The man carrying the
girl was middle-aged and more formally dressed than the average
tourist, beige trousers and a dark blazer-like top”, because we believe that when one says “not dressed like a tourist” one means a person
dressed normally (not in flip-flops, shorts and t-shirt for example) and
is not making a judgement on whether one is a local or not. We think
the way she describes him dressed to be a composite of the Smith
statements and that results in a more ‘formal’ picture than we think
happened in reality.
Please be aware that there are only 3 Smith statements in PJ files, Martin, son Peter, daughter Aoife. The statements from wife Mary and grandson Tadhg aged 13, are not there and we believe that Gemma has spoken to all of the Smith family. There’s a detail in the article that tells us that.
As our readers know, it doesn’t matter to us how Smithman was dressed, only the FACT that in no way a man holding a compromising child in his arms would cross with the Smiths unless he intended to do that (so he could be seen and so materialise the abductor).
We were in Praia da Luz and walked where Smithman walked, so we know that nothing but intent explains that man having crossed with that family as detailed in the PJ Files.
With the rest of the article we agree.
Giving it a 2
in content does not mean we think it’s not credible. It only means we
were promised a mountain and got delivered a mouse.
But it is a truthful mouse as we will explain next week.
16. Conclusion
We
have come to the conclusion that Sutton’s presence in Gemma’s article
means the article has been meddled with by the other side.
That
didn’t alter in anyway the 2 main points that the article intended to
convey: the Smiths confirm all and the BBC were not truthful about the Smiths in Bilton’s
Panorama programme.
In the grand scheme of things, the falsities
it contains matter little with the exception of one, and that is when
it says the Portuguese investigation was littered with mistakes.
It is
but one stain on a big tablecloth but as anyone who has received guests
for dinner, if one insists on using a large tablecloth with a wine
stain on it having the option of using a spotless one, then one is only showing
disrespect for one’s guests.
And it seems that Gemma O’Doherty has insisted on using a stained tablecloth.
We believe there are reasons for her to have done what she did and will explain them hopefully next week.
On our post “Gemma O’Doherty” we then said this about her:
“We
would like to make it very clear that we think that Gemma O’Doherty is
an absolutely independent journalist – from what we have read about her,
we think that is something she’s very proud of – so we are, again to be
very clear, not implying she’s playing any game within the game.”
Of
the above we would now only add an asterisk after the word ‘independent’
in “is an absolutely independent journalist” and in a footnote say it
meant “to be determined”.
If it seems we have a negative opinion of Gemma O’Doherty, that may not be the correct picture to make. We simply have said that she insisted on using a stained tablecloth and that on seeing Sutton’s name we saw that “she is not the independent journalist she claims to be”.
And that may be subject to many interpretations, one of which, ours, we will provide in next week’s post.
Even though we rated the article a 2 for content (again please be very careful in judging what that means), for some reason we have given it a 7 for relevance.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-pay-750000-11995167
ReplyDeleteThis was brought by an Anonymous to our last post this morning.
As we think it's apt to be on this post so we are putting the link on the blog again.
The fight for the spring funding (in this case fighting for not to have it) has begun.
We've watched this become a cycle now, every spring and every fall.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5536195/madeleine-mccanns-parents-have-750k-in-the-find-maddie-campaign-coffers-as-hunt-faces-being-shelved/amp/
DeleteInteresting phrase from Kandohla:
"But from this total a huge chunk – £51,718 – has been set aside to be paid to the McCann’s Portuguese lawyer Isabel Duarte over a failed libel battle against an ex top cop who accused them of accidentally killing their daughter and hiding her body."
Top cop?
Basically, if OG archive, they will carry on with this pretence forever.
We continue to believe that one day, the truth will emerge, maybe from an unexpected source, as far too many people know the truth for it to remain a secret.
The general public in general seem bored by the story. The McCanns are getting older and less photogenic- no longer the tragic golden couple, more money-orientated business partners.
Ermmm.... and court costs?
DeleteAre these people forgetting them?
Tex someone has posted saying they cannot be forced to pay due to jurisdiction, I've no knowledge about such legalalities but if true surely if they can't be made then GA couldn't have if he had lost and we know they'd have never accepted that they love money too much. I'll leave this with you maybe one of your contacts can enlighten us.
DeleteAnonymous 10 Feb 2018, 00:34:00,
DeleteIt’s a question of legality and not of jurisdiction. It’s between the court and those who owe it money.
We would imagine that any court, from any country would only accept processes from those residing outside it as long as they name a representative in the country, which could or not be their legal representatives.
So, if they don’t pay we can only imagine the court having means of obtaining that money. In Portugal, those who don’t pay the entities of the state what they owe in due time, the interest rates they charged with are very substantial.
One could argue that as the case wasn’t yet decided at the end of March 2017, that funding was not yet allocated as was already the one for Isabel Duarte.
However, this statement disproves it, as it mentions the ECHR in the past tense, so it would have to be known then the McCanns were due all the court costs Mr Amaral’s legal costs:
“Other creditors include costs which relate to work which was carried out by the Portuguese advocate, Isabei [sic] Duarte over a number of years relating to the libel action brought by Gerald and Kate McCann against the discredited Portuguese detective, Goncala [sic] Amaral (Over claims made in his book), his publishers and the firm that produced a television documentary and the subsequent DVD. The libel action reached the Supreme Court in Portugal with judgement given against Gerald and Kate. The case has been referred to the European Court of Human Rights ("ECHR") on an application submitted by the advocate's firm, JDLei.
The ECHR will provide a written judgement on the Case, the timescale of which is not currently known.”
Thanks for the reply Textusa,there's a lot of backlash for the McCann's at the minute due to an article over them funding the search again(yeah right) appeared a few minutes before the end of the tragic Jamie Bulger programme. Me thinks there's someone with a big wooden spoon stirring the pot wanting the public outrage and they got it.
DeleteTeX seems I was right, wooden spoon going at full speed thanks to OG asking for more money for the search on the same day Jamie Bulger went missing 25yrs ago. If they wanted a reaction from the public they've got it fb going into meltdown.
DeleteFabulous article, Textusa. Unfortunately, Gemma seems to have taken the easier option (or as it was 'presented' to her to help her along...) and, avoiding the school bully, went instead to a lazy Billy Bunter who stands outside the school group looking in, hands in pockets, sucking candy which he avoids sharing. Watching for an opportunity to feather his own nest. The emperor who has no clothes.
ReplyDeleteFor those who say G would never have taken the risk and carried a dead child to though a narrow street - agree. For many reasons.
ReplyDeleteFor those who say it was too risky to carry a decoy child - of course it was risky. It was extremely risky to stage an abduction, particularly one that had no witnesses.
Tanner’s sighting as the only corroboration was also too risky as a unique sighting by a group member would have been suspicious.
An independent sighting was required, but no certainty who that person might be. It required nerves of steel and a large element of desperation. And a plan not to engage in any way with the passer-by.
Unfortunately, it was a large family group, who could each remember additional details.
For those who said Smith only came forward to exonerate Murat, why not say exactly that? “It wasn’t Robert M because I know him by sight, but I didn’t see much detail as I was focusing on the child. He wasn’t wearing glasses.”
Why go on to say the person looked like GM if his only role was to clear Murat? And why include children in this sighting, knowing they were likely to be interviewed by police? Why not just stage it so you were on your own?
Would the Smith family expect to see an abductor carrying a child through the streets?
Personally, I would have assumed a vehicle was used. People in PdL must have seen many parents carrying children around at night and possibly in pyjamas if coming back from the night crèche. It would only be when Tanner’s sighting was announced that I might have thought the person I saw was relevant after all.
"Would the Smith family expect to see an abductor carrying a child through the streets?"
DeleteWho would not see a father carrying his sleeping daughter home ?
Who would expect to see an abductor walking with a child in his arms ?
Who would expect to see a man carrying a dead child ?
Wasn’t I making the exact point?
DeleteAs he wasn’t carrying a dead child, why would Smiths assume immediately that there was something to report? Only when JT sighting was seen as suspicious would he react? And she wasn’t saying a dead child either.
Although the position would suggest dead.
You were making the point, yes !
DeleteTannerman had an advantage on Smithman, as he pointed obviously to an abnormal situation, he was carrying like first aiders do.
But looking at it better, what made MS feel that Smithman wasn't carrying comfortably ? It could eventually reveal that Smithman wasn't a father after all, that he had no experience of carrying kids and that, among other possibilities, he might have been abducting.
But it could also reveal that something was wrong with the little girl, something that turned carrying her difficult, whether the carrier was her father or not.
Why would an abductor walk streets carrying a little girl who is not well ?
When you get down tricky steps out of a plane with a child deeply sleeping, i.e not clutching you, as we see on the photo, you're a bit tense not to fall, you're not "comfortable", especially if a horde of journalists are expecting you on the tarmac.
What Gemma O'Doherty uncovered was, in every sense, a true revelation moment. That not one national newspaper has chosen to publish it is infuriating, yet, given their longstanding bias, unsurprising.
ReplyDeleteIn all these years, not one journalist hitherto sought to approach Martin Smith and ask this imperative question,
Why you would seek to minimise it is bewildering.
The answer to that question revealed more than the yards of verbiage committed to your indulgent, bloated blogs in all these years.
Marsha,
DeleteThank you for your comment.
Please read again what we have said: "If it seems we have a negative opinion of Gemma O’Doherty, that may not be the correct picture to make."
Yes, she insisted on using a stained tablecloth but we haven't said yet why she insisted. She may have very valuable reasons to have done so, which we may show in our next indulgent and bloated post.
The fact that we question her independence is because we think there has been outside interference in the article. Again, why she allowed that, can be explained, understood, respected and even admired.
If you disagree with what we have disagreed factually with what she has said in the article, please express it and we will publish it.
Do note that we said that outside what we mentioned, we agreed with all the rest.
Your "That not one national newspaper has chosen to publish it is infuriating, yet, given their longstanding bias, unsurprising" is very relevant.
Marsha,
DeleteDo you agree with Gemma when she says that the Portuguese investigation is littered with mistakes?
We would like to make it clear that we will continue next week and will address whatever Sutton has said about about the Smith sighting as part of the post.
ReplyDeleteThis post is merely to explain the importance of Sutton in the "Team" the other side has operating to keep up the hoax.
Why he appears in the article and says what he says there, is part of next week's post.
But we won't surprise anyone in saying we agree with what he has said about the Smith sighting.
It would be very odd for an article to have as a source someone disagreeing with what the article intended to convey.
We inform that we have changed the quote of the picture opening the post.
DeleteThe picture we had, was misleading. It could be interpreted as if we disagreed with what Sutton was saying about the Smith sighting.
The idea was to show disagreement with Sutton's presence in the article.
When we are wrong, we retract. Our apologies.
I think you may be wrong about ECHR and Mc application as I’ve read elsewhere that cases have to go through a preliminary stage of European Commission before the court itself.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 9 Feb 2018, 14:31:00,
DeleteAs far as we’re aware, the situation changed in 1998 but stand to be corrected by experts on the ECHR:
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/RP98-109/RP98-109.pdf
One may accuse the EU of many things but being static is not one of them.
We used the following links and searched for all cases related with Portugal:
http://echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=press&c=
https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{"documentcollectionid2":["COMMUNICATEDCASES"]}
https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{"documentcollectionid2":["DECISIONS"]}
https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{"documentcollectionid2":["JUDGMENTS"]}
If anyone knows there are other ways to confirm or deny that the McCanns have submitted a case to the ECHR (by the way, the above confirms that cases are against states and not people, so even implying that will alter the outcome of the damages trial is a blatant lie), they have a moral obligation to show that to all of us who are interested in justice.
As soon as I saw the name Colin Sutton mentioned in Gemma's article I was disheartened. I tend to think that 'the other side' somehow engineered that he was involved by feeding him to Gemma, in some way. I dont think it is surprising that Gemma did not see through him because, to many people, it can appear that he is on the side of the truth. He uses the Richard Bilton tactic which has been so common over the last months.
ReplyDeleteFor your file:
ReplyDeletehttps://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2018/02/maddie-did-the-bbc-bend-the-truth/
Anonymous 9 Feb 2018, 16:09:00,
DeleteThank you! Have updated opening paragraph accordingly!
Making any sort of comparison between Operation Grange and the Portuguese investigation or bringing them up together in the same sentence is insulting to the Portuguese.
ReplyDeleteIMO raving about the Portuguese investigation over the OG one is silly. As frustrating as both have been for disclosure, none of us really know what, if anything, is being done (or not).
ReplyDeleteMy biggest fear is this whole case fades away with no answers at all.
Sutton wants to show there's a reason why Grange can't come to any result: they picked up from an investigation that had as many holes as a Swiss cheese.
DeleteThat's why he keeps saying the investigation was wrong from the beginning.
Hi anon 17.56.When Portugal PJ had the files released to the public under their constitution,once transfered into English,the UK public could digress,what situation the Portugal PJ were put in by the helpful colleagues who came to assist the Tapas group of friends!
DeleteThe UK Police,Metropolitan Police,Gold group,Leicestershire Police Force, have been in cahoots for Eleven Years and to this day 9 Feb 2018,have been unable to find any"evidence of criminality" by any persons.
"The Blind, Leading the Blind" come to mind,or are oh where are we going on this investigation,Re-mit Abduction,because the UK Police have stated,Madeleine was a child of three years of age and couldn't make up her mind,because, she was a child,ergo Abduction?
To think that over 1450 Government Officials,MP's Lord,Ladies Ex Police Commanders are paid to represent the UK,electorate on Laws,Law making, "You couldn't make this **it up,but they do"?
Would the last person alive in the UK please switch off the lights!
Gemma o Doherty does appear to give a revelatory moment.....but surely a revelation requires an audience to whom this is a revelation....as opposed to an audience who knew or suspected the very same anyway...thats just a confirmation imo. Maybe it was never intended to go national in the MSM.
ReplyDeleteAs an investigative journalist you would hope she must have been aware of the conflicting views on Colin Sutton. The mention of his name certainly dissapointed me and has made me wary of her intention. Lets hope she has more to come which can dispel my suspicion.
Great post Textusa as usual.....
Bampots
I see on Twitter people saying that Sutton is not important and that Gemma should only get praise.
ReplyDeleteIf Sutton isn't important then why did Gemma go and choose him for her article?
http://colinsutton.blogspot.pt/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html
ReplyDeleteOn the post we have already linked to his blog, Colin Sutton says this about being or not offered the job:
“On Sunday 9th May 2010 the News of the World published a story which suggested that the Met was going to reinvestigate Madeleine’s disappearance and that I would be asked to lead it. This was news to me on both counts. Nobody from the Met had, or indeed ever did, make such a request of me.
The only official news I heard about the reinvestigation was a week or two later when I heard that the idea of such a reinvestigation had been shelved for the time being in the wake of the change of Government. You will recall the note by former Chief Secretary to the Treasury Liam Byrne, apologising to his successor that there was no money left. The rumour in the Met was that, unless and until the Government were prepared to fund it, we would not undertake such an expensive operation which, as desirable as it might have been, was not really something on which Londoners should see their Council Tax spent.
However, before this, just a few days after the NotW story I did receive a call from a senior officer in the Met whom I knew quite well. This officer told me I would do better to avoid the McCann investigation if it did happen, because "You wouldn't be happy leading an investigation where you were told what you could look at and what you could not".
Other that confirming no one offered him anything, we basically to believe that on a sensitive issue like Maddie, someone would just put up his name and face on a newspaper without his knowledge?
Even if this absurdity was to be true, what of what hat has his name pulled out of, and why did Jim Gamble know of this jackpot?
Gemma O D just tweeted link to her art click again on Twitter.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 10 Feb 2018, 10:38:00,
DeleteIndeed she has!
https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/962263650718363648
“Gemma O'Doherty @gemmaod1
My investigation on Madeleine #McCann, the key sighting that police believe could unlock the mystery of her disappearance and how the BBC misled the public about it:
https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2018/02/maddie-did-the-bbc-bend-the-truth/
1:55 am - 10 Feb 2018”
https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/962264082496794624
“Gemma O'Doherty @gemmaod1
My investigation on Madeleine McCann, the key sighting that police believe could unlock the mystery of her...
https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2018/02/maddie-did-the-bbc-bend-the-truth/
1:56 am - 10 Feb 2018”
https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/962264735562522625
“Gemma O'Doherty @gemmaod1
My investigation into Madeleine McCann, the key sighting that police believe could unlock the mystery of her...
https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2018/02/maddie-did-the-bbc-bend-the-truth/
1:59 am - 10 Feb 2018”
We’ve only expressed disappointment in terms of expecting more from her article but haven’t had any reason to call her dishonest or question whether she interviewed Mr. Smith.
We have no doubts that she did and quoted him and his family accurately.
Hello Textusa - In my opinion, and I hope I'm not mistaken, Gemma O'D is a little naive for an "investigative journalist" and may have been misled. Her knowledge about Madeleine's case appears limited, compared to Textusa and some other less information blogs, and she has some serious catching up to do (as do I). I hope she continues her investigation into Madeleine's disappearance as she has a platform from which to share the truth with the public - something the MSM is unwilling or unable to do. I do not know whether Gemma is as unbiased as she says ... I guess time will tell. Thank you Textusa for all your time and effort you put into your posts - I always look forward to reading them (and re-reading them) and learning more. Kind regards. Wistle
ReplyDeleteWistle I would not discribe Gemma OD as naive. If she went merrily about writing unconfirmed ramblings do you think that she was able to stand up to both the Irish times editor and the Garda commissioner over her whistle blowing investigation which results in both of them losing their jobs. Do you think as an investigative journalist that she wouldn't know that Textusa was blogging about her or if she Google Colin Sutton his ridiculous child trafficking story wouldn't be on the first page.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is she doesn't really care, nobody's going to sue her and she hasn't a great love of the Grada or RTE and getting a dig at any other countries police force or the BBC is probably a wee bonus to her. It didn't take away anything she was trying to tell which was basically how the BBC stitched up one of her fellow country men. That probably how she got Martin Smith to talk to her. Remember everyone of us could have written that article ourselves except for the Martin Smith denial exclusive therefore it wasn't wrote for us it was wrote for people who have limited knowledge and when Sutton was handed on a plate she thought WTF it will make the Brits look a bit worse
Hi - maybe I'm the naive one ... If all she wanted was to stick two fingers up at the BBC and speak out for Martin Smith then she has achieved her aim. If she is a genuine investigative journalist who wants to out the truth she will continue her investigation. As I said... maybe I am being naive ... but time will tell.
DeleteHi textusa,it would seem as though Gemma O'Doherty,may have to spend some tine investigating the recent claims on Twitter of a Paedophile ring being in the vicinity of Donegal going back into the 1970's according to the articles,linking collusion with the Garda Siochana,non investigations,Mary Boyle?
ReplyDeletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe/status/962357949560705024
ReplyDeleteNatalie Rowe tweeting Gemma’s article
Natalie has a big following and knows the secrets of a lot of politicians and VIPs. In her professional life and calls out hypocrites.
Anonymous 11 Feb 2018, 13:12:00,
DeleteInteresting, thank you. If there's anyone who would know about VIP sexual and LEGAL peccadilloes, very reprehensible socially, we would say would be her:
Natalie Rowe
@RealNatalieRowe
AUTHOR OF 'WHIPPING UP A STORM' Ran An Exclusive Escort Service, Exposed George Osborne for his Sex&Drug liaisons with me, plus a few other Political Hypocrites
London
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Whipping-Up-Storm-Natalie-Rowe/dp/151202421X
1,021 Following 14,033 Followers
It seems Scotland Yard have asked for more funds.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-key-witness-accuses-2433328.amp
ReplyDelete"Madeleine McCann cops 'ask Home Office for more cash' to pay for probe into disappearance
We'll be bringing you the very latest updates, pictures and video on this breaking news story.
Police investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance have reportedly asked for more money for the probe.
Scotland Yard is said to have approached the Home Office to appeal for more funds.
By
Jane Lavender
Dave Burke
16:43, 12 FEB 2018
UPDATED16:55, 12 FEB 2018
The youngster disappeared from Paia da Luz in Portugal in 2007.
Last week the Daily Mirror revealed that Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry have nearly £750,000 available to fund the continued search for their daughter.
The cash in the Find Maddie Fund - made up mainly of public donations and profits from Kate’s bestseller book - has grown over the past financial year, according to the latest accounts.
When contacted by Mirror Online, the Metropolitan Police declined to comment.
We'll be bringing you the very latest updates, pictures and video on this breaking news story.”
Sigh.
As predictable as watching a tennis game.
Serve, return...
… and ball to the other side. In this case the other side is indeed the 'other side'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5382119/Scotland-Yard-asks-money-Madeleine-McCann.html
ReplyDeletehttps://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/917926/Madeleine-McCann-case-police-money-Portugal-disappearance-Praia-da-Luz-gerry-kate-mccann
ReplyDeleteAmazing how they manage to get these stories out in sync! Timing is everything
Anonymous 12 Feb 2018, 17:59:00,
DeleteIndeed.
To be noted together how these same papers failed to "notice" Gemma O'Doherty's article.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe/status/963137951386435584
ReplyDelete“Natalie Rowe@RealNatalieRowe
(link: https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/963089236370092037) https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/963089236370092037 Scotland Yard are taking the piss ! What for THIS TIME
Sky News Newsdesk
@SkyNewsBreak
Scotland Yard has asked the Home Office for more money in the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann who went missing from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007
7:49 PM · Feb 12, 2018”
And, interestingly, Natalie, gets an ermm… warning, a sort of a gentle nudge to stop:
Deletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/Mantra1298/status/963156454004985858
“Mantra1298@Mantra1298
Replying to @RealNatalieRowe
Sigh.
Not again.
Clueless.
Already been solved Massive hoax
9:02 pm · 12 Feb 2018
Natalie Rowe@RealNatalieRowe 48m
Replying to @Mantra1298
Every Year “give us more money” what’s the new lead this time?, we still don’t even know what the most recent batch of cash that the Met Cops begged for went on ! There’s more than a conspiracy going on. #McCann’s
Mantra1298@Mantra1298 45m
As you know NAT. Safer not to comment. I've an excellent knowledge of the case but refrain from publicly commenting. It's for the best. (whining/crying emoticon)
Natalie Rowe@RealNatalieRowe 44m
I’ll comment if my urge gets the better of me, which it always does
Mantra1298@Mantra1298 44m
I know (heart emoticon)”
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealNatalieRowe/status/963140580871163905
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Well according to @theresa_may the Police need to make do ! There’s no money left, so tell Scotland Yard to get jogging and come to think of it, how about arresting the #McCann under caution and start asking them for a recap on their movements that NIGHT
(link: https://twitter.com/skynews/status/963135789675802625) twitter.com/skynews/status… Sky News@SkyNews
Police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have requested more money from the Home Office (link: https://trib.al/etlOTkY) trib.al/etlOTkY
7:59 PM · Feb 12, 2018”
Unlike Sutton, she's VERY CLEAR:
Delete"and start asking them for a recap on their movements that NIGHT".
In other words, Mr Sutton, get the McCanns in to do the reconstruction.
A reconstruction on this case, to be legally valid, has to be done under the responsibility of the Portuguese police.
And so nice to see Jim Gamble getting involved:
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“Harry Leslie Smith@Harryslaststand 2h
This would have all ended much differently for #MadeleineMccann's parents had they lived on a council estate rather than been part of the 1% because negligence was present on the night of her disappearance at the very least.
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 2h
Harry, I’m sad & deeply disappointed to see you get involved in this way. They aren’t the 1%. They are parents who made an error as many do & they are paying a hell of a price. This is below you. I’ve been involved in safeguarding long enough to know know everyone makes mistakes
Jane Marshall@JaneParshally
Replying to @JimGamble_INEQE and @Harryslaststand
Careful, Jim. @Harryslaststand will wipe the floor with you, on this. He is a much wiser and better man than you, and can smell rats and cut through their shit from Way Back. #McCann
9:20 pm · 12 Feb 2018”
Harry Leslie Smith is military veteran, ex-RAF. They were pretty fearless guys!
DeleteHe’s now 95
http://harryslaststand.com/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Love-Among-Ruins-memoir-Hamburg/dp/178578000X
He’s a well respected voice on twitter.Gamble taking him on because he knows this.
Although Harry speaks of neglect, it doesn’t matter as much as him speaking up upsets Gamble.
Gamble under attack:
Deletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/JaneParshally/status/963192301228036097
Harry Leslie Smith@Harryslaststand 1h
Sadly, I think it is you who are implying things about me. As for compassion I have it for them but 12 million pounds for one child when resources are lacking for other missing children makes me feel more compassion for the thousands the media forgets about or ignores.
Felicity Hannah@FelicityHannah
Replying to @Harryslaststand
And all the ones confidently implying they killed their daughter. A repugnant thing to suggest and a thread lacking the compassion I have previously consistently associated with you.
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 1h
Harry, I believe you are a decent person with a great history but this is wrong. Missing is a complex area & few children go missing in the same circumstances as Ben Needham & Madeleine. The problems faced in most UK missing cases are very important but very different
Jane Marshall@JaneParshally
Replying to @JimGamble_INEQE and @Harryslaststand
Unbelievably patronising. It's interesting, though, your frantic flurry of Tweets tonight in response to Harry's observations. He's the manifestation of the candid majority. Now the honest & unbiassed are speaking, the writing is on the wall for #McCann Where does that leave you?
11:25 pm · 12 Feb 2018
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 52m
Replying to @JaneParshally and @Harryslaststand
It leaves me in the same place I’ve always been. Doing what I think is right for a missing child. I wonder where creating a legacy of bile for two innocent siblings leaves you.
Jane Marshall@JaneParshally 45m
I have created no bile. I have always observed and commented on the facts as presented by the PJ's thorough and conclusive investigation. Why do you persist in defending the indefensible? No matter, you are now in the tiny #McCann minority.
Gamble revealing his true colours (as if that was needed) and being put in place:
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Rebecca@Loverandomleigh 1h
Jim Gamble right now The silent majority are speaking out. #McCann
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 1h
& you know why they say about empty vessels
Jane Marshall@JaneParshally
Replying to @JimGamble_INEQE and @Loverandomleigh
Your spluttering 'outrage' tonight directed at those you label 'trolls' is now revealed in all its transparent hypocrisy: Your engagement with that vilest of harpies seals your own reputation. Do NOT DARE persist in your criticism of @Harryslaststand - you couldn't lick his boots
11:35 pm · 12 Feb 2018
"Few children go missing in the same circumstances as Ben Needham & Madeleine"
DeleteThis is dog whistling. The implied 'circumstances' here = 'abroad'. In other words, many children go missing each year in Britain but at the hands of Brits and investigated by a good ol' British Police force. Millions must be spent on investigating two individual children, though, if they disappear on foreign soil at the hands of foreigners and at the mercy of a foreign Police force.
Are we to believe this really one big, expensive British government PR exercise? The facts of the case aside, this belief/attitude stinks.
On JG he would have been better off not commenting, he can't control or change the majority of the public perception on this case.
ReplyDeleteOn OG my opinion is that it should continue, we don't know what the MET are working on or how long things take, I believe there must be a good reason for needing more cash.
All the signs are there that whatever support was previously given to the mccanns isn't there anymore, the Sun just this week referred to GA as top ex cop, Gemma revealed that the BBC had now changed the panorama program someone must have given that authorization. I believe the MSM have not picked up Gemma's story so as not to prejudice any future trial as there are still some people who don't know anything apart from what they read in the MSM. The wheels are turning slowly in this case but it can take years and in most cases the public is probably not aware of the cost to the public purse.
This is just my opinion on how I view things currently.
9th February headlines were telling us that the McCanns had £750,000 readily available in the fund to launch a private investigation should OG cease,three days later a whole month and a half before the home office funding granted back in Sept 2017 is due to run out a message is put out about asking for more funding,this is a message to whom it needed to be sent,Operation Grange is far from finished.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theportugalnews.com/news/uk-police-apply-for-more-madeleine-search-funds/44749
ReplyDeleteUK police apply for more Madeleine search funds
BY TPN/PA, IN NEWS · 13-02-2018 07:34:00 · 0 COMMENTS
Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have applied for more funding for the search.
UK police apply for more Madeleine search funds
The Home Office confirmed that it is considering an application from the Metropolitan Police for more money to keep the probe, called Operation Grange, going.
A spokeswoman said: "The Home Office has provided funding to the Metropolitan Police for Operation Grange and the resources required are reviewed regularly with careful consideration given before any new funding is allocated."
Government funding for the investigation has been agreed every six months, with around €180,000 being granted from October last year until the end of March.
More than €13 million has been spent so far on the probe to find the missing girl, who vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal in May 2007, aged three.
Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have vowed never to give up hope of finding their daughter.
In 2011 the Met Police launched its own investigation into what had happened to the toddler.
Do note the clear and direct intervention of the Home Office. A spokeswoman from it is directly quoted, so that there's no doubt about it.
Deletehttps://news.sky.com/story/more-funding-for-madeleine-mccann-search-requested-by-police-11248085
ReplyDeleteMore funding for Madeleine McCann search requested by police
Scotland Yard clearly feels the search hasn't come to the end of the line, according to Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt.
19:16, UK,Monday 12 February 2018
Police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have requested more money from the Home Office, Sky News has learned.
Funding for the Scotland Yard probe is due to run out at the end of March but officers have now asked that extra cash be provided to keep it going until the end of September, Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said.
Scotland Yard is "keen to continue its investigation", he explained.
"The situation at the moment is that there is Home Office funding to keep Scotland Yard's part of the joint investigation with the Portuguese going until the end of March," he said.
"But Scotland Yard has asked for more money."
It is not known how much cash is being requested, and Martin Brunt said it "may be some time" before Home Office ministers make a decision.
"Clearly Scotland Yard feels it hasn't come to the end of the line," he added.
Madeleine was three years of age when she went missing in Praia da Luz in the Algarve in 2007.
Last May, on the tenth anniversary of her disappearance, Scotland Yard said it had one critical piece of work still to do, but did not say what it was.
Martin Brunt said that as he understood it, it was a "final theory that was very complicated", and involved "a lot of sensitive diplomacy".
It was "likely to take some time to find the clues, if they were there".
The investigation team, which once numbered 30 officers, is now down to four.
The Home Office said in a statement: "Resources required are reviewed regularly, with careful consideration given before any new funding is allocated.
"The Metropolitan Police has made a further application for funding, which is currently being considered."
Key words: "... involved "a lot of sensitive diplomacy"."
DeleteTextusa @12:49
DeleteThat’s what I thought, but if OG have to be diplomatic with Portugal, are they pointing at a Portuguese suspect?
Unless it involves some Portuguese citizens who took part in the hoax?
This reminded me of something Martin Brunt said in a telephone call with Robert Murat on 15th May 2007:
DeleteMB: I understand that and I understand the sensitive nature of everything that we have been working with since we arrived here, so...
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRUNT_MURAT.htm
Anonymous 13 Feb 2018, 13:36:00,
DeleteWe would say the diplomacy in question would be about convincing the Portuguese to let the British handle, meaning to prosecute, the case in the UK.
For the UK, the case being prosecuted in Portugal, as it must, it cannot control it. It cannot limit up to where the truth is to go and will have to rely on the witnesses to stay on script in court.
That, as we all witnessed, proved to be impossible in the McCann v Amaral damages trial.
Besides, to take it the prosecution of the process over to the UK would be insulting the Portuguese. The Portuguese justice system has on its hands the problem of prosecuting a former Vice-President of Angola, who is being accused of corrupting a Portuguese prosecutor in Portugal.
For now, the trial of this process has begun and it was decided to remove from the process the claims against this former Vice-President with the intent of prosecuting him separately. Where, it’s still uncertain.
Note, this is openly and transparently a case on the highest political level and the question of the process being moved to Angola is being debated.
There could be no excuse for allowing the McCanns to be prosecuted in the UK for something that happened in Portugal.
If, for some reason the UK decides to prosecute the couple for Maddie’s disappearance, so without the “permission” from Portugal, not only that would have no legal value in the country with jurisdiction over the supposed crime as it would embarrass the UK for running such a stupid exercise.
Anonymous 13 Feb 2018, 15:22:00,
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This would go down with the British public like a lead balloon, after the pathetic recent sentences involving Jamie Bulgers killer John Venables and slap on the wrist of Nigel Nessling. The public has no faith in the justice system,they've been aided and abetted far too much in the uk.Here they will get a cushy sentence which will be served by been protected away from the main prison population who usually rip their sorts apart. No the only way justice can be served is in the country where the crime was committed, og should have never existed in the first place Amber Rudd has been inundated with emails and comments on her fb since the funding announcement was made.
DeleteMartin Brunt "Madeleine was three years of age when she went missing in Praia da Luz in the Algarve in 2007. I noticed the word missing has replaced the concept abduction.
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ReplyDeleteJim Gamble doesn't make sense.
I don’t want to emphasise neglect in Mc case because it was no more than an alibi, but in the cases Gamble refers to, the parents may not be prosecuted, but they are under the supervision on child protection services as a result of their neglect, which the Mcs never were.
Is he saying in cases of KNOWN neglect, the parents are just left to their own devices?
As a former Social worker, this did not happen in my professional world.
Anonymous 13 Feb 2018, 13:47:00,
DeleteBringing it over to the blog so readers can understand what you mean:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Unicorn_999/status/963356814690734080
Harry Leslie Smith@Harryslaststand 20h
This would have all ended much differently for #MadeleineMccann's parents had they lived on a council estate rather than been part of the 1% because negligence was present on the night of her disappearance at the very least.
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 19h
Harry, I’m sad & deeply disappointed to see you get involved in this way. They aren’t the 1%. They are parents who made an error as many do & they are paying a hell of a price. This is below you. I’ve been involved in safeguarding long enough to know know everyone makes mistakes
Daniel Blake@Unicorn_999 6h
He's rigth though, had they lived on a council estate, they would be up on charges of negligence at the very least.
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 5h
In these circumstances I don’t think we would. Fact is they are living with it and using them in this way won’t help anyone.
Daniel Blake@Unicorn_999 5h
Others have been charged 4 similar acts of neglect. "they are living with it" isn't justice enough for them. The wealthy & well connected are simply not subject to the same laws others are. It's wrong plain & simple.
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 5h
Simply not true. Many people neglect their children, fail to live care & nurture them & many from all walks of life go unpunished. Read a few serious case reviews. They are paying a heavy price.
Daniel Blake@Unicorn_999 5h
If the child knowingly comes to serious harm as a direct result of a known negligent act, they are charged. How many cases of widely publicises neglect, causing harm are you aware of that didn't result in charges?
Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 5h
It’s not a competition but I suggest you read some serious case reviews. For man years the vast majority of children on child protection plans were on because of neglect. In each case parents were not routinely prosecuted. You need to check facts.
Daniel Blake@Unicorn_999
Replying to @JimGamble_INEQE and @Harryslaststand
You bought up competition not me. I spoke of the inequality of the application of the law dependant on one wealth and connections.
10:18 am · 13 Feb 2018
Some one needs to ask Gamble if he knows its a child missing not her blasted parents,does he even know the missing girls name?Madeleine who?
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