Sunday 16 May 2010

The 4 a.m. Outing



An Anonymous placed the following comment on the Beach Body Disposal Debunking post:

“Early morning May 4th, 4am, Payne and Mccann, after everyone had stopped searching left the apartment. McCann and Kate left the apartment same morning at 6 am....We know it was not to search as they have already admitted they did not search. So where did they go and what did they do?”

However I did say the following in the post:

“(...) and tell you what in my opinion PROVES, without a shadow of a doubt there was no body disposal at the beach: Gerry was alone. (…) And that proves what, ask you? It proves that ONLY HE knew where he buried or hid the body. And unless he drew up a treasure map, there was no way that anybody else, but he, could go and get the body. And, as far as I know, from the moment the GNR arrived; if there was an individual everybody knew where he was that night, that individual was Gerry McCann. And was never seen with sand on him that night.”

Apparently all I said above is contradicted by the comment.

But, first of all, one must question the fact that if Gerry and David went to the beach at 4 a.m. contradicts all said in the post? I say, no, it doesn’t.

In fact I say that the comment does not contradict ANYTHING on the post.

I’ll explain that in a bit, but let me clarify first the following. I took and take this comment having come from a White Hat, thus to be frank, genuine and constructive.

I even thought I was going to get “slammered” by you on this contradiction. I wasn’t. You people didn’t seem to exploit this apparently evident contradiction. So, I confess that I didn’t understand your silence, but I have a hunch that you’ve refrained yourself to being critical of me, even thinking that I had gone head over heels.

Well, if you thought that pointing out to me some inaccuracy of mine you would run the risk of helping the Black Hats, youre doing the exact opposite of the intended. I please ask you to point out ANYTHING that doesn't sound or seem right.

ALL facts must make sense, not only most.

And if something I say doesn’t make sense, I must either correct it or explain it better. I’m not owner of the truth, and I’m basing my theories solely on the information available and my interpretation of it.

The truth is unique, my goal is to achieve it.

So correcting a statement is never a step back, but always a huge one forward.

Truth cannot be contradicted.

As you’ve noticed, I set the same example in responding to your comments. If you think that something might of happened in a certain way, and I don’t agree with it, then l’ll fight you every inch of the way, and expect a similar reaction from you.

I hope, that you, like me, prioritise the clarification of truth over the imposition of an opinion or conviction.

Only through confrontation and discussion will light shine on the issue.

Yes, we may argue with each other, but believe me, the Black Hats dread a passionate exchange of ideas between us much more than you do.

So, if you don’t agree with something, please help us and say it. We here DO NOT bend fact to theory, but will immediately “update” theory to fact. Let that be very, very, clear.

To those familiar with the various Black Hat “maggot lairs”, you’ve noticed that my whole Smith Sighting Saga has been completely ignored by them. As if inexistent.

That pleases me. Other post have merited their attention, these seem not to.

They’re afraid of what is being said here. By me and by you. And I’ve seen some maggots roaming about.

Obviously stupid, meaningless and attention deviating comments are not accepted. But, so as not be accused of censorship, I’ve decided to create the Textusa Trash Can, where I deposit ALL these comments, so that you can judge for yourself.

Going back to the contradiction, let me say upfront that I stand by each word on the "Beach Body Disposal Debunking" post.

Not out of stubbornness, but of reason.

That post has suffered two major attacks. The one stated above and the “Sewer video”. This last one, being, so, so enlightening, I will leave for a different post.

The commentator of the 4 a.m apparent contradiction didn’t even question the validity of the post.

She/he just wanted to call the attention to the possible role of David Payne in this. I’m the one questioning it. My conscience demands it.

About the 4 a.m apparent contradiction, all I was able to gather were the following two sources: that:
The Sun,

"At midnight the Policia Judiciaria, the PJ, who investigate serious crimes, were called in, arriving at 1am. They, along with the McCanns, their friends, other holidaymakers and locals, scoured the area for two and a half hours.
At 3am Kate rang friends Jon and Michelle Corner, Sean and Amelie's godparents, at their Merseyside home.
Jon said: "She just blurted out that Maddie had been abducted. She said, 'They've taken my little girl'."
Child abductions are so rare in Portugal that there was a general feeling among the authorities that Madeleine would turn up asleep under a bush.
Apathy and incredulity set the tone for the police investigation. The PJ gave up the search for the night at around 3.30am. Gerry went back out again at about 4am with his friend David Payne.
At 6am Gerry and Kate held hands as they walked around scrubland on the outskirts of the village calling Madeleine's name.
The British embassy issued a statement declaring Madeleine missing. But there was no physical evidence she had been kidnapped. Gerry and Kate alone were convinced of that."

And David Payne’s statement for rogatory interview.
"QUOTE: 00:17:28 Reply "Err so then you know the Police were with err you know Kate and Gerry, you know chatting to them and you know looking at the apartment, etcetera, and they, you know I felt that they had been probably around for about an hour and then Matt met up with err with Kate and Gerry after. Me and Gerry you know I'm not sure what time it was, it was you know between three and four o' clock when, again looking for her. We went down err through past the Ocean Club reception, we went down err to the beach and ... UNQUOTE " (These fact were NOT confirmed either by Fiona Payne or by Dianne Webster).

About the infamous, disgusting tabloid, as one of the subservient and diligent spokesmedia for these criminals, wrote whatever was told to write, and has the validity it has: if it ever speaks against the McCanns, I take as valid information, all that in favor, I don’t.

From the rogatory interviews I divide the information into three basic categories:

- The one that is confirmed, which must be analysed at the time and circumstances first said, as well as to the why it was repeated;

- The one that contradicts the first, which must be analysed in terms of the what exactly is being contradicted and why is it being done:

- The new, which one must analyse as to the why it was only brought up then and not in previous statements. All three types of information may be legitimate, however these people have proved, much more often than not, that MISLEADING is their only survival tool.

So when David Payne states that he went to the beach at 4 a.m, for the first time in the rogatory interview, in 2008, all I can say is that if there is one thing that we can be certain, is that he could have gone to the moon and back, with or without Gerry, but he certainly didn’t go to the beach that night.

Imagine, for a moment that the fantasy was real

That, yes, the body was on the beach. And that, yes, he had gone down to the beach with Gerry, and that, yes, he David had gone into the sand, dug out Maddie, leaving Gerry spotless for the night, and that David, took it to wherever they had to take it..

Why on earth would he then mention that to the police? Completely out of the blue? Wanting to help out?!?

If he wants to help out he can come and do the reconstruction.

No, he never went to the beach.

So, I maintain what I said. That Gerry was accounted for all night. No, not every single minute, but certainly he didn’t behave oddly to the point of notice, and that is what I mean.

But, I’ll give him EVEN that.

Let’s suppose that both did go to the beach. He could have gone with David down to the beach at 4 a.m. He could even have been free ALL NIGHT to go. Free to pick up the body from where it and take it to where he wanted.

That maintains unaltered my statement that the fact that Gerry was alone at the time of the Smith Sighting, PROVES, that he didn’t place the body on any of the beaches.

And I said it, and remain saying it, it's proved because then only he, and he alone, would know where the body had effectively rested, be it in the sand, in a crevice or in a sewer.

Why do I maintain that? Because Gerry McCann, like all of us, cannot predict the future.


It’s completely irrelevant what happened next, what is important is what HE thought at that particular moment would happen next.

The only thing he is certain of, is that an alarm will be given, the authorities will come and that he, Gerry, will tell them that his daughter has been abducted.

From then on, he HOPES many things will happen, but is totally ignorant of what really will.

The GNR could just say, ok, we took notice of the occurred, suggest you look for your kid, and call you in the morning to see if there’s any news, or they could to inform Gerry (leaving then the body with nobody to get it) and Kate that they were under arrest.

These scenarios could have happened, as all other scenarios in between.

One thing would be expectable, and that would be that the parent’s would become the centre of attention.

Limited in whichever action they wished to take.

For that, they had to rely on their friends, never on themselves. So when Gerry is seen by the Smiths, apparently hiding the body, he simply doesn’t know if and when he’ll have an opportunity to retrieve the body.

It’s totally nonsensical to have him hide it, especially when he cannot risk not being able to retrieve it and allow it to be found by someone.

It would be a maneuver based solely on a fortuitous possibility to be able to come back and get the body.

No, not likely taking into account those involved.

The fact that Payne alleges going to the beach s is yet another Red Herring thrown by the Tapas, so that valuable time and resources are spent chasing useless leads.

The biggest “Tapas Red Herring” is, obviously the whole abduction theory.

About “The Sewer” video , it’s too important and enlightening not to have a separate post.

Another question placed by a reader was for me to explain better the physical differences between Gerry, Matthew and Russel. I when I picture each of them in my head, I think Gerry as “average”, Matthew “grey-haired” and Russel “big blonde hair”.

27 comments:

  1. A message from a Rothley resident via twitter...

    rothleyreporter Gerry #McCann get the fuck out of Scotland, you're not welcome anymore. The Madeleine McCann Murder will be solved one day and you will pay.

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  2. ...and another..nice to see they are not all from 'Stepford'

    rothleyreporter Etape Caledonia. Why do the #McCanns have to taint everything good with their phoney charity scam. The truth will come Gerry, to be sure....

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  3. I am afraid but I got a bit lost with your last blogentry which I put down mainly to my non-native comprehensive skills.

    But...

    I don't understand why you keep referring to the sandy beach if it is clear that the "stroller" could not have been heading for the sandy beach given the street he was walking. It would have to have been the rocky beach to the west of town. To reach the sandy beach from the Smith encounter he would have had to pass a couple of bars and the promenade.

    The Smith sighting was an accident that should never have happened. It was so serious that they had to change the carefully pre-arranged timeline for the evening to create an alibi for the exact time of the "abduction" leaving gaping holes now in the timeline.

    The imo easiest explanation would be the shortterm disposal of a body at the rocky beach and a subsequent move to a more secure place during the early morning hours. There was only a roughly 15 minute timeframe for the Smith-walk.

    It was full moon by the way...

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  4. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rocks.html

    http://www.mccannfiles.com/id78.html

    Two good links to further investigate.

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  5. page is not available,dear iron
    XO Claudia

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  6. From Mccannfiles link

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    Gerry says: "Now we have to go through everything as if it is a certainty that Maddie is dumped. We are bombarded with questions from shocked friends, contacts and journalists from all over the world. While it is all for nothing and we will not get our child back with this. We know that a big, international action like ours has its shadow side and attracts idiots."

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  7. Hello Claudia let me go and check.

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  8. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/13/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

    Try this one Claudia

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  9. From the book 'the truth of the lie', GA- pag 143- 'Os primeiros sinais de morte partem dos pais':

    'Nesta altura,parecia que... o casal mccann despertava para a dura realidade- a forte possibilidade de a filha se encontrar morta....a dado momento, sentimos que... kate healy estaria na disposicao de...indicar o local onde o corpo da sua filha estava, e que o mesmo se situaria na vila da luz...NO inicio de Junho, kate comeca a dar conta de algumas informacoes relativas a localizacao do cadaver da filha... tais dados tinham-lhe sido fornecidos por pessoas com poderes psiquicos... poderia o cadaver encontrar-se num colector de esgotos que desemboca na praia da luz, ou nos penhascos a nascentendaquela praia, local em que por vezes, praticava corrida.

    AND ON PAGE 165-'Buscas com o Eddie na Zona envolvente da vila da LUz':
    'A zona envolvente da vila da luz... foi alvo de buscas com utilizacao do cao Eddie... abrangeu-se a area definida por krugel...passou a pente fino todos os locais da aldeia da luz onde se pensou que pudesse ser possivel ter sido ocultado ou momentaneamente depositado um corpo de crianca.Eddie percorreu kms de terrenos baldios, ruinas e edificios abandonados ou em construcao... cursos de agua, todas as entradas das redes de esgotos e aguas fluviais, todo o extenso areal da praia e tambem a vegetacao existente nos arredores da aldeia da luz, sem esquecer aquele grande e importante morro de origem vulcanica...conhecido como rocha negra. Eddie nao deu qualquer sinal ou indicacao da existencia de cadaver ou de odor de cadaver em qualquer local da zona.'
    That means, the body was in a house, in a refrigerator or in a car and the Smiths sight could be Gerry but not carrying Madeleine or could be Gerry carrying Madeleine into a house or a car.

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  10. PAY ATTENTION TO THAT TIMELINE OF EVENTS ( FROM MCCANNFILES) AND TAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS:

    Wednesday 06 June 2007: Kate and Gerry's exit from Berlin is delayed. The Portugese police say they have received some information that they need to be consulted on. Gerry dismisses this as 'nothing of interest' and it means they miss 2 TV programmes due to arriving in Amsterdam 3 hours late (Spannish police said they don’t receive any information related with that call, then who call the Mccann’s about that?- Another fabrication to fit their abduction plan?)

    Thursday 07 June 2007: After the scheduled meetings, Gerry catches up with 'a friend who was attending a medical conference in Amsterdam'. It is speculated that this was Matthew Oldfield who is believed to have been attending the Euromedlab 2007 event in the city at that time.

    Sunday 10 June 2007: Mobile phone call is alleged tracked by investigators, between Russell O'Brien and Gerry McCann.

    Monday 11 June 2007: An anonymous letter and map are received in the offices of DE Telegraaf, which claim to show where Madeleine is buried.

    Wednesday 13 June 2007: The anonymous letter sent to The Telegraaf is published. McCanns express their disappointment that the contents of the letter have been published before being fully investigated by Portuguese police.

    Gerry says: "Now we have to go through everything as if it is a certainty that Maddie is dumped. We are bombarded with questions from shocked friends, contacts and journalists from all over the world. While it is all for nothing and we will not get our child back with this. We know that a big, international action like ours has its shadow side and attracts idiots." ( A FATHER OF A REAL ABDUCTED CHILD WILL NEVER SAY THAT, because if they don’t know what happen, any scenary is possible. HE SAID THAT BEFORE THE POLICE CHECKED WHAT THE LETTER CLAIM)

    Map is received by police in Portugal.

    Thursday 14 June 2007: Initial searches of scrubland do not reveal anything unusual.

    Friday 15 June 2007: Police with sniffer dogs search scrubland 9 miles from Praia da Luz where Madeleine's body is reported to be but the hunt is called off after only 4 hours. ( POLICE REPORTED THAT THE MCCANN’S WERE CALM AND DID NOT PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THAT SEARCH- ODD. Police had a taste that they know in anticipate that nothing will be found)

    Saturday 16 June 2007: Gerry blogs: 'Relatively quiet day on the campaign front today'. ( ODD AGAIN. A NORMAL FATHER WILL FEEL DISAPOINTED FOR ANOTHER CLAIM AND ANOTHER SEARCH WITHOUT SUCCESS. HE JUST PAY ATTENTION TO HIS CAMPAIGN- MONEY)
    (CONT)

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  11. CONT:
    Tuesday 19 June 2007: Gerry flies from Faro into Gatwick, London for some meetings.
    Shortly after arriving in London, Gerry reports that his wallet has been stolen. The incident happened as he withdrew cash from an ATM at Waterloo station in central London. Other reports suggest Gerry's wallet was stolen close to Tony Blair's Downing Street office.
    Gerry's sister, Philomena McCann, said: "Gerry was at the bank to get some British currency, because he didn't have any at all. He took out £100 from a hole in the wall machine, put it in his wallet then popped it in his back pocket. He bent down to put something in his rucksack and some dirty animal had the wallet out of his back pocket. We don't care about the money, but we do care about getting the pictures of Madeleine back." ( VERY CONVENIENT)

    However, Susan Healy said: "Gerry is not clear how his wallet was stolen. He did not see them take it. It contained precious photographs which have now been lost forever."( THE GUY WHO STOLE THE WALLET NEVE ASKED MONEY TO GIVE THE PICTURES BACK- STRANGE And Philomena described with detail how the thinks hapenned))

    Gerry is then forced to delay the series of meetings he has planned while he cancels his credit cards. ( WAS THAT AN EXCUSE TO CANCEL THE CREDIT CARDS? BECAUSE PJ WANTED TO TRACE THE MOVEMENTS)

    Clarence Mitchell could not immediately confirm details of the theft. London police said they had no record of the theft being reported to officers.( THIS IS AN IMPORTANT INFORMATION)

    I TAKE SOME CONCLUSIONS...

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  12. Telegraaf Media Group -NL + The Telegraph Media group- UK, were related? If so, could explain some issues on Madeleine events.

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  13. The wallet story was just that, a story and yes I belive to have an excuse to cancel credit cards.

    McCann also claims this very 'KIND' thief returned his wallet because he found an address
    of where he used to live on his driving licence which was ALSO inside the wallet. Or thats how the story went at the time.

    This 'THIEF' also returned the wallet with 30 Euros, he only took the English notes...what a GENEROUS thief...No one but no one steals and then returns money that can be changed in any bank.

    Why one may ask did he say his wallet was returned at all???it is a good question one I have no answer, unless he had slipped up when mentioning his driving licence...he later needed to hire a car..without a licence this would not have been possible.


    Good morning Tex and readers...

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  14. http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1738602?UserKey=

    WIKIPED..Prof.Dave Barclay said the police were right to suspect the Mccanns and Maddie is probably dead.

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  15. If as i suspect this was linked to a pedo ring, i think when M died they rang others to call in favours, M was then picked up by car and driven across border and disposed off long before the alarm was raised, hence the 'find the body and prove we killed her' comment. I dont believe the stroller was G, far too risky. I think in all liklihood its a coincidence and that person hasnt come forward as they dont want to get embroiled in the saga. I think the simplest solution is usually the right one. She died, they got her removed and they raised the alarm.
    Liz

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  16. Just some additions:

    - the reason they were delayed was a german lunatic claiming to have seen Madeleine in Germany. At that time they could not know that he was a lunatic - he was a DOCTOR... :)
    http://unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.com/2010/01/der-berlin-zwischenfall.html

    - The phonecall that was reported as having been conducted between Gerry McCann and Russell O'Brien was actually between Gerry and David Payne as the files show. Why and who dropped in ROB? Intimidation?

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  17. I agree Liz your theory makes sense and would tie up loose ends. But, this case is not about sense or loose ends.

    Mccann told Sandra the two most important sightings were on the night...yet he chooses not to mention anything about the Smiths. Tanner had a whole programme to herself to talk about what she saw...why not the Smiths also..why did Mccann change the position of the child and not follow the statement of the Smiths?


    The Smiths could clear the Mccanns...the desciption matches Tanners ...and yet the Smith sighting still goes ignored.

    This 'latest' photograph of a man walking on the beach looks like Mccann...has Cooper been wheeled out again to confuse and muddy the waters for the Smiths benefit?...showing that 'HER' man could be mistaken for Mccann and cast doubt over the Smiths for ever..

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  18. http://www.coventry.ac.uk/latestnewsandevents/a/5880

    Mitchell returns...

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  19. I agree, this has a taste of Paedo which go far then a domestic issue. I totally agree with Textusa- Everything the Mccann's, their friends, their relatives and their team delivered to police, to newspapers or on their own blog, was rubbish to divert attention from the real position and situation of the body. The investigation need to be concentrate on what came from independent witnesses, from the dogs and the forensic tests and specially from their 'sliperies' in some interviews. They had the help of more people then only the Tapas to cover-up and noboby get involved in a case like that if he or she don't have a good profite ( money, promotion,etc) or something very serious to loose.

    'We know that a big, international action like ours has its shadow side and attracts idiots."- Gerry words.
    And we know that the idiots attracted by the easy money were already caught- Karen Mathews, a couple in Spain( he from Italy and she from Portugal) and another lady in Uk hijacking the Fund Madeleine on the same way Gerry hijacked the Cancer Fundraising yesterday.
    What about the other idiots? The one which were not yet caught? Aragao and the Cipriano's. Why they show up? Only to intimidate and discredit Amaral? When Aragao fall into the Circus? Who made him fly from Madeira? Who paid his expenses? Why have he the protection of the 'boss' of the Bar Lawyer, the same who said that Casa Pia is a 'Cabala'( I can't find a translation for that word).

    What happened to Madeleine touched in some points, very sensitive issues in Portugal and UK, this is why the two countries allowed all the mess, all the circus and made the mccann's UNTOUCHABLE, no matter how much nonsense cover their behaviour. But this cover-up will not last forever and they were far from a perfect crime.

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  20. Blimey, I can't believe this case is still affecting me...anyway THE WALLET story can be easily explained like this also... The day that Gerry was travelling...whatever the hell he was doing on that date, he was also moving Madeleine's body...later he couldn't find his wallet so he HAD to mention a stolen wallet on the Blog to cover his own ass incase it was recovered...It's such an unnecessary lie so he must have not been able to find the wallet and panicked thinking he left it at the burial site. So, later when he found it, with driving licence etc. he had to say someone sent it back to him, because how can a stolen wallet suddenly reappear with half the contents inside.Cancelling credit cards would make no difference to the bank account records etc. This is just one of my 'theories' ;-)
    Marty

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  21. Thanks for the info Johanna...ROB the only one to not show his face on the Court steps.

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  22. Hi Marty, please stay close and tell us more.

    This was the trip where Mccann helped a passenger.A very ungrateful passenger who never said thanks. I am sure if this had happened Mccann would have made sure this chap thanked him via the newspaper.

    Also if I remember corrrectly the stolen wallet also gave him good reason to be late for his appointments.

    Your theory is a good one.

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  23. Eddie and Keela signalized Madeleine in the Renault Scenic rented 20 days after her disapearence and in the Villa da 'Bela Vista'. Taking Madeleine in a normal flight will be too risky. Gerry will not exposed himself at this risk.
    If we have a look on their behaviour as a couple, we can see that apart the trips they have done togheter to promote their image and a Baptism in UK, more of the time, Gerry went and Kate staied, even when they claim that there was family around to look after the twins. Why Kate stay? Why Kate was not the second driver for the Renault Scenic when they rented the car? The second driver was one of their relatives. How long that relative stays in PDL to be the second driver. He did not work in UK? The Renault Scenic put a lot of Kms when they went to Europe and Morocco. Why and where? The trips in Europe could be to divert the attention of the Media and the public into themselves leaving a third person with time and space to move the body.

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  24. Three of Nine who let Madeleine down.

    "… she was happy, bubbly, errr... relatively headstrong on previous meetings. Actually she seemed to have mellowed a little bit when we went on holiday, you know a girl, you know a little girl full of, full of life, full of beans, and, errr... you know E**a and her, we hadn't seen much of each other, they were just having a wonderful time together you know they're so similar in age, errr... I think that's all I can say. She just appeared to be a... you know, that time of life is gorgeous isn't it? You know, they're, they're in, they're, you know they're, they've not been sullied by school and lots of other external influences you know they're still you know just in... they're speaking, they're developing personality and nothing about Madeleine would suggest, which I presume the implication here is, that she was having an unhappy life, that she was being neglected or that she was being you know brought up in a, in a, in a threatening or a dangerous environment, you know she was you know just a you know normal, happy four year, you know three year old girl."
    - Russell O'Brien in a statement to the Leicestershire Police, 10/4/08

    "… she was, you know, a very bubbly little girl, errm... very cheery, errm... very sort of caring, she was very good with, errr... smaller children, errm... you know, I just remember Grace falling over and sort of Madeleine going to pick her up and help her, errm... you know, sort of full of fun, lots of energy, running around, sporty, errm... one game that sort of we used to play in the evenings, by the recreation area, was, you know, somebody would pretend to be a monster and they'd all sort of say, 'chase me, chase me' and Madeleine was always kind of the one who started that off, errm... sort of say, 'oh let's play monsters' and so you know it would be Matt or Dave or Russell sort of running around chasing all the kids, errm..."

    (..) "Errm... a bright little girl, I think, errm... I mean, oh, her, I suppose I don't know her well enough to, to really comment on that but I mean, she was, you know she was sort of very together and certainly acted her age or sort of you know older than her age, she was very sort of self aware, errm..."
    - Rachael Mampilly in a statement to the Leicestershire Police, 10/4/08

    "Mmm..., errr... Madeleine's, errr... a very striking, errr... beautiful child, I'd almost - if I want a better phrase - call her doll-like, you know. She was very, you know, I think, you know, very unique looking child, errr... she'd got very pretty, you know blonde hair, errr... in a bob, she was quite a petite, errr... child and you know she was very bubbly, very, errr... you know, she was a very good child to, to interact with. She was very bright, you could have a lot of fun with Madeleine, errr... and you know she, she was, you know, Kate and Gerry's, you know, pride and joy. They'd had a lot of trouble conceiving, you know, with IVF and everything and, you know, Madeleine was their miracle. She was obviously very unique with the fact that she'd got the, you know, the iris defect, errr... but, you know, she was certainly a happy go lucky child, you know, she was, she would interact with the other children very well, as I said on the other, earlier recording, you know, she played very happily with L*** and you know indeed the other children. She was, you know, very... she is a very beautiful child and good fun."

    (..)"You know, I, you know, a fact I've come across already you know she was a... she's a very bright child. you know, she wouldn't be the kind of mischievous child who, you know, and just try and get out of the flat and you know get up to mischief and that, you know, there's fun in all children but she certainly wasn't that kind of child. She was very bright."
    - David Payne a statement to the Leicestershire Police, 10/4/08


    Source : McCannfiles

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    Mmm..., errr... Madeleine's, errr... a very striking, errr... beautiful child, I'd almost - if I want a better phrase - call her doll-like, you know. She was very, you know, I think, you know, very unique looking child, errr... she'd got very pretty, you know blonde hair, errr... in a bob, she was quite a petite, errr... child and you know she was very bubbly, very, errr... you know, she was a very good child to, to interact with. She was very bright, you could have a lot of fun with Madeleine, errr... and you know she, she was, you know, Kate and Gerry's, you know, pride and joy. They'd had a lot of trouble conceiving, you know, with IVF and everything and, you know, Madeleine was their miracle. She was obviously very unique with the fact that she'd got the, you know, the iris defect, errr... but, you know, she was certainly a happy go lucky child, you know, she was, she would interact with the other children very well, as I said on the other, earlier recording, you know, she played very happily with L*** and you know indeed the other children. She was, you know, very... she is a very beautiful child and good fun."

    (..)"You know, I, you know, a fact I've come across already you know she was a... she's a very bright child. you know, she wouldn't be the kind of mischievous child who, you know, and just try and get out of the flat and you know get up to mischief and that, you know, there's fun in all children but she certainly wasn't that kind of child. She was very bright."
    - David Payne a statement to the Leicestershire Police, 10/4/08


    Source : McCannfiles

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  26. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1752277.ece

    May 6th report

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  27. Interesting Anon. 8:01,

    They memorized the main story to tell the police. That means was all programed and most probably a lie.

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