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The documentary series The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann, launched by Netflix, which has information and statements collected in Portugal, has the participation of Sandra Felgueiras. The relationship of the RTP journalist with the Maddie case is from the very first day. Sandra Felgueiras followed this story, was in the Algarve for three months, did long hours of live coverage and numerous interviews, “controversial, at the time”, with the McCann couple, both in Praia da Luz and in England.
The Portal de Notícias spoke with the journalist. The reporter revealed to us details of what was experienced at the scene of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance. The mystery around the child's whereabouts “makes this story viral”. “Until we know the reason and the person who took Maddie, we’ll always have a story. There is, for now, no explanation for what happened in one of the calmer places in Portugal”, she says.
Sandra Felgueiras was on RTP and suddenly she is “surprised” by the news
The journalist recalls the day she learned of Madeleine’s disappearance. It was the year 2007. She was in RTP’s newsroom and suddenly was “surprised” by the news. “A three-year-old child disappeared in Praia da Luz. The English parents left her alone in the room with the siblings while they went to dinner”. The outline of this story left her “intrigued”.
Sandra Felgueiras only had time to go home to get a change of clothes and went to the Algarve. “It would never cross my mind staying for a week in the Algarve. Much less a month. And we [journalist and image reporter] spent three months”, she says. On the first day, “there were only four or five journalists on site”. The RTP professional recalls seeing a couple, Kate and Gerry McCann, “very emotional” in the first public statement, before the media.
“I remember being on the verge of tears because at no moment did it seem to me that they were lying. Our impulse was, among all, to go and look for the child, “confesses. “The journalists did not want to just report. We wanted, at the limit, to find her. That started to become very distressing for us too”.
“Dreamed every night of Maddie. I was ‘seeing’ her almost everywhere”
The involvement with the case was such that Sandra Felgueiras “dreamed every night with Maddie”. “I was ‘seeing’ her almost everywhere”. On a beach frequented by many Englishmen, the journalist remembers confusing various children with the missing girl. Soon Praia da Luz became a media epicentre. “I have no memory of a case that has provoked as many live coverages and reports as this one. The image that I keep in me is the media foot-print. “When Maddie’s parents return to their hometown, Rothley in England, the journalist accompanies them. “There was no space in Rothley's square to put all the cameras. We [journalists] fought over the place”, she says.
In the year that Maddie disappeared, 2007, the World was not what it is today. There were no smartphones and the information was not so easily spread. However, Sandra was recognized by a team of reporters from Tokyo who wanted to interview her. “The Tokyo reporter knew who I was because he had seen interviews with the McCanns”, she explains.
Occultation of information and the filing of the case. «Gonçalo Amaral lied to me»
Three months after Maddie's disappearance, two dogs came to Portugal that sniffed blood and cadaver. Police began an operation with the animals in the apartment where the girl had disappeared and in the car rented by the McCann family. The dogs signaled, simultaneously, in the room of the child's parents and in the luggage compartment of the car. Before this evidence, Gonçalo Amaral, the first operational coordinator of the investigation, assumes this signaling given by dogs as an “unequivocal” clue. Maddie had died behind the couch by accident and her parents had transported her in the luggage compartment of the Renault Scenic.
In order for this operation done with the assistance of the dogs to be valid, it must be supported by scientific analysis. Gonçalo Amaral’s thesis is not confirmed by the analysis pending in the Birmingham lab. When the preliminary results arrive, the inspector informs Sandra Felgueiras that “there was correspondence to Maddie’s DNA”. “In 20 possible alleles, five had been detected in the apartment and 17 in the boot of the car”. The journalist confirmed, with coroners, if the probability of matching Maddie was feasible if faced with this result”. All answered yes, that the probability was high”.
In July 2008, however, the journalist has access to the process that, until then, was in secrecy of Justice. “When I go to see the preliminary result, which Gonçalo Amaral told me, and that led him to constitute the McCanns as arguidos, I see that the last paragraph said that, although there were 17 alleles in 20, the sample was so insignificant and small that there were several people in the lab with the same genetic identification. So this evidence could not be considered relevant”, she explains. Sandra Felgueiras feels “profoundly deceived”. This paragraph was decisive to shake everything that had been done before. “In no moment Gonçalo Amaral told me that the sample was so small and criminally irrelevant”, she stresses.
Inquiry closed due to lack of evidence
The inquiry is closed due to lack of evidence that the coordinator of the investigation assured that they were reliable. Sandra Felgueiras does a new report, where she explains the whole process and everything that had happened.
The arrival of the police four hours after Maddie's disappearance, which allowed tens of people to enter the room without any restriction, and the closure of the borders only 48 hours later, after which in Portugal a disappearance is constituted a crime, made the investigations difficult. In an abduction thesis, in these circumstances the police may have missed the opportunity to capture any suspect. “The PJ was immersed in a world media circus that pressured it to have an answer and the only one they could arrange was one that diverted the crimes to the parents”. Over the preliminary results, the Authorities transitioned from kidnapping to murder.
The ‘secret’ that the McCann couple carries
In the first interviews with the McCanns, Sandra Felgueiras remembers them as “a desperate couple looking for their daughter”. The fact that the couple’s friends did not want to talk to the journalists and that Maddie’s parents only spoke under certain circumstances and without being unequivocally enlightening, leads the journalist to believe that the couple hides a secret. “I think the couple hides a secret. I do not know what, but they never told whole truth. “
Sandra Felgueiras says she does not know if this truth is decisive for knowing where the child is. But whenever the journalist asked a question, for example, she wants to know why they left the children alone, the answer is always interpreted with hostility and without objectivity. “They were indeed negligent and were never punished for it. That is a great guilt they carry”. From then on, Sandra realizes that the couple could present a certain coldness in answering certain questions because of “feeling guilty about leaving the child alone”.
The McCanns “carry a great sense of guilt and a great secret”
“Today I look at them and I think they carry a great sense of guilt and a great secret”. About the size of the secret and the impact it has on the outcome of the story, the journalist does not know. But “while a woman, a mother and a journalist, I would like for Maddie to be alive”. However, Sandra Felgueiras does not dare to “respond to what she “does not know.
Text: Jéssica dos Santos | WiN; Photos: Impala and D.R.
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I’m assuming the basic premise is that they supposedly never ate in the Tapas and were actually swinging instead of eating, which sounds a bit daft
3:31 am - 24 Mar 2019
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The arguments against the swinging theory are becoming dafter.
Please quote where we have said “never ate in the Tapas and were actually swinging instead of eating”. What next will we be accused of saying?
We have said that they didn’t eat at Tapas because we believe they dined elsewhere than rather than at a poolside tacky esplanade, outside when evenings were chilly. You know, in proper restaurants. Like Chaplin’s for example. Or others. There are many in the area.
The dafter the arguments used the more they help prove our point. And how grateful we are to Karen!
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I am just trying to imagine Rachel giving up her rather dishy husband to Kate #McCann and then having to accept swinging away with Gerry...I feel sick now
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Another daft comment helping prove our point.
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ReplyDeleteEXCLUSIVE: Maddie's DNA could be present in crucial samples as world expert rips up 'failed' UK forensic tests
By Mark Saunokonoko - 9 hours ago
One of the world's leading DNA scientists – whose lab helped identify victims of the 9/11 terror attack - has told Nine.com.au he believes he can answer a major forensic question that baffled investigators and could finally help solve what happened to missing girl Madeleine McCann, more than 11 years after she mysteriously vanished.
Speaking in tomorrow's fifth episode of Maddie, an American DNA expert reveals potentially case-changing insights into the DNA samples that were taken from the McCann's holiday apartment and rental car in 2007. Those samples were later judged to be inconclusive.
The chief scientist at a US-based, world renowned lab has reviewed the now out-dated testing methods used by the UK's Forensic Science Service (FSS) in 2007 to analyse the McCann samples. He has also examined a crucial final DNA report that was sent to the Portuguese police.
Portuguese police sent DNA samples to the FSS for testing after two specialist sniffer dogs trained to detect the scent of death and human blood alerted in the McCann's holiday apartment and a rental car hired three weeks after Maddie vanished. The FSS analysed the samples but struggled to untangle and decipher the potentially explosive evidence.
"[The FSS testing] failed in this case 10 years ago," the DNA scientist said.
“If a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can’t interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice – of guilty people not being convicted, or innocent people staying in prison. What is needed is an objective and accurate interpretation that can scientifically resolve the DNA.”
The inconclusive DNA results from the FSS appeared to cast serious doubt over the earlier work of the cadaver dogs that had searched the potential crime scenes.
The US forensic lab has forged a global reputation through solving previously indecipherable DNA samples. It has played a pivotal role in a number of high-profile US criminal trials involving wrongful convictions based on dodgy DNA evidence and controversial prosecutions.
In 2007, the now-closed British lab, the FSS, was forced to undertake a massive review of up to 2000 cases of violent crime, including rape and murder. There were concerns that the DNA tests relating to these criminal cases had failed to detect minute traces of DNA that could potentially have identified guilty parties.
The American DNA scientist will feature in Monday's episode five of Maddie, Nine.com.au's podcast investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance. Maddie quickly reached number one in the UK, Australia and New Zealand iTunes charts.
Since 2007, the McCanns have strenuously denied any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter. Nine.com.au does not suggest any involvement on their part.
SPOILER ALERTS: Recap of first fourMaddieepisodes
Episode one: 'They've Taken Her'
Madeleine mysteriously goes missing while on a family holiday in Portugal. Kate and Gerry and their friends, the Tapas 7, conduct a complex and at times confusing checking schedule on their children. The group claim they were leaving their kids alone each night while they ate dinner at a nearby tapas bar.
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The police investigation begins but detectives appear to have doubts about the McCann apartment which shows no forensic sign of being broken into. A former UK police chief struggles to understand how someone can climb in and out of Maddie's open bedroom window. Jane Tanner, a Tapas 7 friend, reports seeing a man carrying a girl away from the McCann apartment, but police have concerns about the reliability of her evidence. Changes in two of Gerry McCann's police statements are analysed.
Episode three: Man with No Face
A criminal profiler underlines the importance of a second sighting on the night Maddie was reported missing, as the potential abductor seen by Jane Tanner is ruled out by police. Two e-fits of a man suddenly emerge into the public domain in 2013, but it turns out private detectives hired by the McCanns had obtained those potentially significant e-fits five years earlier. A first suspect is named by Portuguese police, quickly resulting in three of the McCann's friends in unison going to police claiming they had seen him on the night of May 3, an allegation which is hotly disputed by the man. How long did Gerry McCann leave the table at the tapas restaurant on the night of May 3?
Episode four: Eddie and Keela
A significant deployment of British diplomats are sent to Praia da Luz inside of 24 hours of Madeleine's disappearance. A former homicide detective wonders why the arrival of so many diplomats was necessary, amid accusations of British interference in the Portuguese police investigation. Two highly regarded specialist dogs are brought to Portugal and make a number of alerts inside the McCann's holiday apartment, 5A, and a rental car they had hired weeks after Madeleine went missing. The McCanns are declared arguidos, and DNA samples are sent to the UK.
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DeleteNew technologies calculating the presence of specific DNA are transforming criminal trials, but not all legal experts think they are sufficiently reliable. By Mark Saunokonoko.
DNA tests changing criminal trials
Robert Xie’s small wooden garage in Sydney’s north-west was unremarkable but for a tiny clue that hid a terrible secret.
There, on the concrete floor, underneath the bottom of an unused wooden tallboy, was a faded bloodstain, smaller in size than a cigarette lighter.
“Stain 91”, as the dried patch of blood would come to be known in court, would forensically connect Xie to the murders of five of his wife’s family. Good old-fashioned police work had led to the discovery of Stain 91, but only a futuristic forensic tool could unlock the critical DNA that would prove so damning for Xie. Had Xie’s murders happened several years earlier, Stain 91 would have been too difficult for forensic scientists to decipher.
Until recently, labs struggled to untangle and deliver reliable results on crime scene samples that were mixed up with DNA from two or more people.
Initial tests on Stain 91 revealed it was an incredibly complicated sample. In it was blood from at least four of Xie’s five victims.
Mark Tedeschi, QC, one of the lead crown prosecutors on the Xie case, pinned his hopes on a company in Pittsburgh, in the United States, called Cybergenetics.
Cybergenetics’ founder Dr Mark Perlin had developed very powerful software capable of unravelling tremendously complicated, mixed DNA samples. Perlin’s lab ran Stain 91 data through its TrueAllele software, churning it through untold complex mathematical algorithms, and emailed the report to Tedeschi.
“The results were astounding,” Tedeschi says.
Working outside the limits of traditional DNA test methods, TrueAllele calculated devastating match statistics in Stain 91 of at least four victims beaten to death by Xie. The software also managed to show in-depth and undeniable comparisons between Stain 91 and a blood spot found on a mattress at the murder scene.
Xie’s lawyer tried, and failed, to fight the admissibility of the TrueAllele evidence. In January, Xie was found guilty of five counts of murder.
Tedeschi tells The Saturday Paper that Stain 91 was probably the most complex DNA sample ever introduced to a criminal trial in Australia.
“They were very significant statistics, which we were able to use,” he says.
But not everybody is comfortable with the new forensic software, which has turned previously indecipherable DNA into often-profound courtroom evidence.
Since 2012, police forces across Australia have increasingly used a DNA computer program called STRmix, which was jointly developed by scientists in South Australia and New Zealand. STRmix evidence has been used to prosecute some of the country’s most vicious rapists, child molesters and murderers. Its emergence as a key forensic tool in Australia has gone largely unreported.
Probabilistic genotyping software, such as STRmix and TrueAllele, run DNA data through statistical computer algorithms to calculate a likelihood ratio that a particular person’s DNA is present in a mixture.
In December 2014, the forensic laboratory that analyses crime scene DNA for Queensland Police became aware of “a minor miscode” in the STRmix software.
Queensland Health Forensic and Scientific Services executive director Paul Csoban tells The Saturday Paper that the miscode was limited to just 60 cases. He says “an internal review” had confirmed that 4500 other samples analysed by STRmix had not been affected.
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DeleteWhen contacted by The Saturday Paper, a spokesperson for STRmix said in a statement that the issue “was largely restricted to Queensland and reflected the way that they used the software”. Both STRmix and Queensland Health stated the miscode had resulted in a small distortion to some DNA match statistics. Csoban says 23 of the 60 cases required retesting to produce new data.
A right-to-information request submitted by The Saturday Paper to Queensland Health and Queensland Police revealed the 60 miscoded cases included alleged crimes of murder, rape, incest, sexual assaults against minors and armed robbery.
STRmix and Queensland Health were in conflict over which organisation had first noticed the bug in the software. There were reports Queensland Health had not purchased the most up-to-date instruction manual to properly operate STRmix.
“STRmix developers released information that a minor miscode was contained within the software that the [Queensland Health] laboratory was using,” Csoban says.
However, STRmix developer Dr John Buckleton says the bug only became apparent when Queensland Health approached their office in South Australia. He adds that Queensland Health had been unwilling to share potentially important and useful details about the miscode.
Michael Bosscher, a Brisbane-based defence lawyer, says he received an “arse-covering letter” from Queensland Health, generically advising of a forensic miscode. At the time, Bosscher was representing Andrew Burke, a teenager charged with the rape and murder of pregnant Queensland mother Joan Ryther.
Only when Bosscher followed up the issue did he discover how his client Burke had been affected, and that his DNA samples had required retesting.
Bosscher says he has “serious concerns” about the rise of STRmix and probabilistic genotyping software in Australia.
“Until disclosure that there was a miscode in the program, nobody, including Queensland Health, was aware of it. What concerns me is, what else has been miscoded?”
Mark Tedeschi rejects suggestions the software has tilted the playing field in favour of prosecutors. He says STRmix was extensively verified and robust.
“I think what defence lawyers are grumbling about is that STRmix evidence is very powerful and very convincing, and it influences juries,” he says.
STRmix’s Dr Buckleton points to multiple scientific validation studies as evidence of the software’s reliability in solving critical DNA riddles. However, he refuses to explicitly confirm that STRmix is 100 per cent reliable.
“We do everything we can to make it as good as possible, but we always hold open the need for checking,” Buckleton says.
“If we ever said it was 100 per cent reliable we might be inviting complacency and we don’t want to do that.”
In 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the US began using STRmix. It has also been rolled out across various jurisdictions in the US, Canada and Europe.
The biased view is DNA stands for Do Not Acquit, according to Clinton Hughes, a New York attorney who works for The Legal Aid Society. Most of Hughes’s casework involves helping clients implicated by DNA, or wrongly imprisoned men who could potentially be exonerated by compelling forensic evidence.
In 2016 Hughes was involved in a high-profile New York murder trial where STRmix and TrueAllele, the world’s two leading probabilistic genotyping products, generated dramatically different results on the same data.
Underneath the fingernail of a 12-year-old boy who had been strangled to death was a tiny unknown amount of DNA from someone else. Prosecutors believed the DNA had come from the child’s mother’s boyfriend, Oral Hillary.
TrueAllele ran the data and produced an inconclusive result. But STRmix, consulting for the prosecution, showed Hillary’s DNA was strongly connected to the boy’s fingernail.
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DeleteThe DNA sample was controversially microscopic, infinitely smaller than Stain 91. The judge ruled that the STRmix result was unreliable and therefore inadmissible. One month later, Hillary was acquitted of murder.
Hughes describes the STRmix and TrueAllele evidence as “Alien versus Predator”. Had STRmix evidence been allowed into evidence Hillary would have “definitely been in trouble”, Hughes says.
“Every lawyer who practises defence has huge concerns when we can’t really confront the evidence that implicates our clients – particularly DNA evidence.”
Both STRmix and TrueAllele say they work with defendants to help make sense of results and the technology. Yet there are only so many scientists who understand the software to go around.
Tedeschi, however, is unmoved. DNA has always been complex for juries to comprehend, he says.
“Part of a lawyer’s job is to reduce DNA to a basic element so the jury can understand it. It’s no different to any other type of forensic evidence that needs convincing.”
TrueAllele, which specialises in the most intricate of cases, such as Stain 91, has been used in more than 400 criminal trials across 32 American states.
But there is another face to the technology. Last year Cybergenetics helped exonerate two men wrongfully convicted of gang-raping a woman in 1989.
“We don’t just work for one side,” Mark Perlin said. “We work for the truth.”
[In italic: This article was first published in the print edition of The Saturday Paper on Jun 17, 2017 as "Crime screen".]
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ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann's parents hit with £29k legal fees after court battles
The couple took legal action against disgraced cop Goncalo Amaral nearly a decade ago
Madeleine McCann's parents face hefty legal fees nearly a decade after the start of a bitter court battle against the ex-police chief who has attacked them again in a new documentary.
Kate and Gerry McCann are about to be told by a Lisbon court they still owe thousands of pounds from their libel fight against Goncalo Amaral.
And the disgraced cop, who has repeated the accusation that the couple put their daughter’s life at risk in a new Netflix series about Madeleine’s 2007 disappearance, is set to increase their heartbreak by hitting them with a fresh four-figure demand for cash.
Amaral, 59, is waiting on a soon-to-come judgement from the European Court of Human Rights over the lengthy legal battle with the McCanns sparked by his hurtful 2008 book The Truth of The Lie before deciding whether to launch a compensation claim.
But legal papers at a Lisbon court show Madeleine’s parents are already nearly £24,000 out of pocket after accusing Amaral of defaming them by cruelly claiming in the book she died in an accident at their Algarve apartment and they covered it up.
Another bill totalling £5,346 to cover left-over court costs - half what they were being asked for before a successful appeal a judge has just ruled on - is about to be sent to their lawyer Isabel Duarte.
And that is likely to pave the way for a fresh claim by Amaral to get Madeleine’s parents to compensate him for another £5,148 in remaining fees he will be asked for that were incurred in persuading his country’s top court to back him over the book fight.
Thirteen volumes of court files charting the ongoing battle the McCanns started after Amaral published in July 2008 - just three days after they were told they were no longer suspects - detail the cash settlements they have been forced into after their initial 2015 libel win was overturned by two higher Portuguese courts.
The 2,958 pages show Madeleine’s parents had to pay £5,548 in costs to Truth of the Lie publishers Guerra e Paz despite its lawyer admitting to a miscalculation of nearly £1,800 in her initial estimate.
The files also show an error by Amaral’s lawyer Miguel Cruz Rodriguez almost led to the McCanns paying Amaral around £1,800 more in costs than they had to.
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ReplyDeleteThe McCanns’ lawyer Isabel Duarte paid the extra before complaining in writing to a judge to get the cash refunded.
The couple’s total bill so far from their Amaral libel fight comes to just under £24,500.
That includes their own legal fees and court costs but also four-figure payouts to the former detective and Truth of the Lie publishers Guerra e Paz.
The figure - which does not include costs they have incurred taking the case to Europe - will rise to nearly £35,000 once the McCanns are sent their new bill and Amaral demands they compensate him for his final payment linked to the Portuguese court fight.
In appendix to the files - kept on a shelf in a seventh-floor office at the same Lisbon Civil Court which ordered Amaral to pay the McCanns £430,000 in 2015 before its first-round libel decision was overturned on appeal - also lays bare the ex-cop’s dire financial position when he penned his controversial book.
Isabel Duarte applied to have his assets seized in June 2009 after lodging a claim for £1 million in damages on behalf of the McCanns and their children.
But a financial probe revealed in the court papers show that the £60,000 2700cc Jaguar car he drove was owned by a firm he set up four months after his book about Madeleine’s death was published.
It also showed an Algarve home - registered in his then-wife Sofia’s name - had loans totalling nearly £400,000 after the bank moved to repossess it following missed mortgage payments and Portuguese tax chiefs tried to recover a five-figure debt.
Amaral, now living in Lisbon, went on the attack again in a Netflix documentary series released earlier this month by claiming the McCanns put their toddler’s life at risk by publicising her distinctive eye marking.
A spokesman for the couple said the claims were “unfounded”.
A source close to the McCanns was quoted as saying: “Mr Amaral doesn’t seem to have any compassion for Kate and Gerry and is only interested in publicising himself.”
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Remember when it was £400,000? It turns out to be just under £30,000.
Remember when we said the £400,000 was an absurd exaggeration?
This reduction is VERY INTERESTING.
PS:
1. It was never libel, but about damages;
2. Mr Amaral is not waiting for anything from the ECHR. If there’s anything from the ECHR from the McCanns which we seriously doubt there is, then it will be against the state of Portugal and not against him.
I am so pleased Amaral is getting his just dues.
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ReplyDeleteHow could she question them like this if she believed she had been lied to by GA about the DNA results?
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ReplyDeletePodcast 5, the one about DNA
Our synopsis of Podcast #5:
DeleteDuarte Levy (DL) is interviewed on phone. He speaks of preliminary report on FSS results being different to final report. Our readers know our opinion of this man, and we don’t know what he means by preliminary report.
When we tackle the Sandra Felgueiras (the new elephant in the room?) this could be important to be clarified. There are clearly 2 preliminary reports mentioned in the files:
- Letter regarding FSS report received by PJ on Sept 04 from Leicester Police, citing 15/19 matches of Madeleine DNA profile
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELEINES_DNA.htm#p10p2615
- Preliminary report dated Sept 06 where FSS states some samples may have come from different people.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm#p10p2653-2660
In between those, the mail from John Lowe to Stuart Prior, in which he tries to wiggle his way out of what the Sept 4 report had said:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELEINES_DNA.htm#p10p2617-2623
To which report is DL referring to? If the Sept 6, then there was no need to interview him as the report is in the files. If the Sept 4 then the question must be asked, why does DL know what’s in it?
And what is relevant from the Sept 4 report is in the files.
We think Mark S should have stuck with the files and not risk losing credibility by bringing this individual in needlessly. All he had to do was to quote the files, as we are certain that he’s very familiar with them.
DL appears to be initially reluctant to talk to Mark S – but then why tweet away his participation if he had such reservations? – and he does say using FSS was a mistake and Jacques de La Palice wouldn’t have said it better.
Brunt originally recorded saying a match to Maddie’s DNa on windowsill and full match in car, but what he says was not later backed up by tests.
Mark Perlin says Maddie’s DNA could be in sample from car but FSS lacked tools to analyse where more than 1 person in mix. All he needs is the digital data from FSS, not DNA samples themselves and he could analyse. Will do it for free and would take about a week.
It could be Maddie’s DNA in mixture. He says FSS methods now old fashioned.
Mark S spoke of Rachael Nickell murder in 1992 in London. FSS did DNA tests in 2001 and failed to identify DNA of murderer but another lab in 2004 successfully identified DNA of Robert Napper, who pleaded guilty.
Mark S leaves message on OG answerphone as nobody picks up the phone, to tell them about Mark Perlin offer but gets no reply. This is quite damning to OG.
Perlin asks why DNA data is being hidden? Mark S says OG May have done these tests already but only 2 companies do them and only other company wouldn’t tell him. It’s the company mentioned in article the blog has published by Mark S.
He gets no positive response to various FOI requests for digital data but says probably because an ongoing investigation.
Mark S made multiple FOI requests and was passed from one department to another. What he was told by the Forensic Archive was the information about digital data from DNA tests Mark was seeking was withdrawn for review in 2012 (OG set up in 2011). Mark accepted that as a live case, FOI refusals were legitimate.
Gamble says mystery will be solved one day with either DNA or someone speaking out.
This is a quick summary of the podcast so please feel free to correct any errors.
The fss were way ahead in their field at the time but came up with the correct results that didn't suit tptb, so a job was done on them casting doubts and distrust on whether their testing was correct. To be perfectly honest this whole charade has been a big insult to the professionals that worked there casting doubts on their skills and abilities, someone went out of their way to target this place discredit it and get it shut down, Blair/Brown have a lot to answer for in supporting the hoax.
DeleteI’m amazed that Mark S got no response from OG after leaving a message on their answerphone saying a DNA expert was willing to analyse results for free, and within a 2 week period, yet Anne Guedes gets a response from OG because she has read a sentence in K’s book about searching in a bin.
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DeletePlease don't forget Isabelle McFadden's privileged contact inside OG.
Mrs McFadden stated on Facebook that if her petition got 2500 signatures she would hand deliver it to her high ranking contact at PJ headquarters and it would be "siginificant enough for her to make demands" Yes she really did say that Only another 500 signatures required .....
DeleteThe new DNA technique sounds very encouraging. It should be a simple matter for Isabelle to contact her high ranking pals about it. Shouldn't it? You see this is where her fantasist inventions fall down, just as her lies about Brain Kennedy have been exposed by the Netflix show. If it was good for nothing else it was good for this. She's claimed numerous times that he'd seen the light, he regretted getting involved, he'd withdrawn his support for McCanns & he thought Amaral was just doing his job. Ditto her communications with Sandra F ..... looking at the screenshot proof she posted that Sandra was "anti" in 2017, I'd say she just asked Sandra about the Panorama show she featured in and Sandra politely replied that she hadn't seen it. I'm sure McFadden does talk to people. Many in the public eye are surprisingly accessible, and she is very persistent. However she clearly lies about and embellishes those conversations.
McFadden said Sandra had a breakdown but I see no outward evidence of that in her interviews.
DeleteDiagnosing a person in this way by a non-professional is dangerous anyway and I’m not qualified to judge either way.
All I can say is she gave a rational account for her change of heart, even though it’s not what I wanted to hear.
I hope, at some point, the exchanges between her and sources will be clarified.
It was reported that Sandra had a miscarriage and a bit of a public spat with one of her co-workers, so McFadden has probably exaggerated this public knowledge into a "breakdown" in order to cover her embarrassment at more of her fibs being exposed.
DeleteThe Twitter thread in which Isabelle McFadden accuses Sandra Felgueiras of a breakdown:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1108534975106707456
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @FilipBrenkovic @haslam_lindsey @56cheffy
Sandra Felgueiras had a breakdown last year after something horrible happened to her and she went crazy on one of her coworkers @RitaMarrafadeC
Everyone at network took Rita’s side because Sandra lied
6:05 pm - 20 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/Joyousb90/status/1108634093124812800
Joyce B 💚 @Joyousb90
Replying to @McCannCaseTweet @FilipBrenkovic and 3 others
Really? Wonder what happened there with Sandra 🤔No excuse for her to lie though ☹
12:38 am - 21 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1108764235402665985
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @Joyousb90 @FilipBrenkovic and 3 others
It’s a really horrible story she accused the co worker of something horrible, when in fact she had been havingthe medical problem days before..it was allover Portuguese news
9:16 am - 21 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/Joyousb90/status/1108779496973447168
Joyce B 💚 @Joyousb90
Replying to @McCannCaseTweet @FilipBrenkovic and 3 others
Blimey, what a dreadful individual she is - hope she was suitably ridiculed for lying about her colleague 😡
10:16 am - 21 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/Joyousb90/status/1108780364527534081
Joyce B 💚 @Joyousb90
Replying to @Joyousb90 @McCannCaseTweet and 4 others
Just had a quick Google - can't see anything.
10:20 am - 21 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1108781024148754432
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @Joyousb90 @FilipBrenkovic and 3 others
It’s in Portuguese here you go Really disgusting actually to accuse Rita
https://www.cmjornal.pt/tv-media/detalhe/sandra-felgueiras-e-rita-marrafa-trocam-insultos-na-rtp-por-causa-da-baleia-azul
10:22 am - 21 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/Joyousb90/status/1108787005922652160
Joyce B 💚 @Joyousb90
Replying to @McCannCaseTweet @FilipBrenkovic and 3 others
Agreed, what a nasty piece of work to accuse someone of that. Hope she was disciplined.
Thanks Isabelle x
10:46 am - 21 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1108787796590751745
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @Joyousb90 @FilipBrenkovic and 3 others
I thought it was a very personal thing so didn’t want to be obvious..creepy thing to do
10:49 am - 21 Mar 2019
This is was not all over the news. In fact, this was the first time we heard this.
DeleteThe translation of the article attached by Isabelle McFadden:
https://www.cmjornal.pt/tv-media/detalhe/sandra-felgueiras-e-rita-marrafa-trocam-insultos-na-rtp-por-causa-da-baleia-azul
Sandra Felgueiras and Rita Marrafa exchange insults on RTP. Shouts and accusations about abortion shocked colleagues from the editorial staff of the public channel.
20.05.17
Journalists Rita Marrafa and Sandra Felgueiras went to war over the 'Blue Whale' challenge. The argument was witnessed by dozens of colleagues, who were in the newsroom on last May 5, according to Guia TV. A journalist, who asked the magazine for anonymity, reports what happened. Rita Marrafa de Carvalho had gotten an exclusive interview with the mother of a girl victim of the 'Blue Whale' challenge and made a piece to pass on the News.
According to the witness' report to the magazine, "the 'Sexta às 9' [name of a program – 'Friday at 9'] team, presented by Sandra Felgueiras, was also investigating this subject only it didn’t have statements from people who lived this drama. When she heard about Rita's interview, Sandra wanted to include it as an exclusive in her program and things started to freak out. The editors and the information director failed to communicate with the coordinator of 'Sexta às 9' and when the time came to decide, they did not know what to do”, the source tells the TV Guia.
The discussion began when Sandra Felgueiras argued with Rita Ramos, sub-editor, in the middle of the newsroom, and Rita Marrafa de Carvalho stood up and called Rita a blue whale, accusing her of having a few extra pounds and calling for the security guards.
In this impasse, Sandra went to the bathroom and yelled that Rita had made her abort and sat at the desk without wanting the INEM presence on site.
"The women of the newsroom were shocked by what she said, not least because on the previous day, Thurday, she had not hidden from her close colleagues that she was losing blood and there had not yet been any discussions. Almost all RTP journalists went through complex pregnancies. Rita Marrafa was at risk of losing one of the babies. Alberta Marques Fernandes’ baby was born at 26 weeks and it was a drama and to say that in the middle of the corridor, accusing a colleague, went down very badly, " says the same source.
Unpublished Anonymous at 25 Mar 2019, 13:06:00
ReplyDeletePlease don’t ever try again to whitewash filth in this blog.
And to be clear to our readers, unpublished Anonymous at 25 Mar 2019, 13:06:00's whitewashing attempt did not involve in any way Duarte Levy.
DeleteThe censored comment:
Delete“Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Sandra Felgueiras - Portal de Notícias":
Very disappointing to hear Duarte Levy included given his history, however the rest of the podcast was brilliant. It was great to (censored, blatant attempt to whitewash filth) and the Rachel Nickel case. I've always felt that information was hugely significant.
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 25 Mar 2019, 13:06:00”
Followed by:
“Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Sandra Felgueiras - Portal de Notícias":
Sorry? What are you talking about? How dare you speak to me like that! Who the hell do you think you are??!!
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 25 Mar 2019, 13:26:00”
And
“Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Sandra Felgueiras - Portal de Notícias":
You are a rude, abusive, mentally unstable individual. How dare you speak to people like you do. It's no wonder most people say your a lunatic. I pity your family. I'd pity your friends as well but you have none.
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 25 Mar 2019, 13:48:00”
All of sudden, on realising that initial comment was not going to pass Anonymous alleges to be very familiar with the blog and with our personal relationships, when initially pretending to not know what the blog considers to be filth.
By the way, filth is not mentioned in the podcast. Trying to pass that idea is a pathetic attempt of getting credit where no credit is due.
The FSS information in the Nickell case was reported in the media in 2008.
It seems that after Netflix, the Maddie’s new elephant in the room is Sandra Felgueiras (SF).
ReplyDeleteShe has explicitly called Mr Amaral a liar, we transcribed an article where she says it unequivocally and the internet has responded with an awkward silence.
Credit is must be given where credit is due and as far as we could see Silverdoe was the only one we’ve seen a reaction from and it was to say that it broke her heart.
We would say that SF was the most relevant appearance in the Netflix documentary. We would go as far as saying that she was able to surpass Neil Berry and his drowning Maddie story in importance and relevance.
Fortunately the blog has no elephants in the room. As we have said, for us only truth matters and for us the case has no sacred cows, not even Mr Amaral.
We do not believe that Mr Amaral lied to SF. Nor do we believe that SF is also lying. We have ventured the hypothesis that there was a go between SF and the Mr Amaral.
Mr Amaral is very clear in the documentary that he never gave anything to SF while she recognises that she has sources inside the PJ. This seems to confirm our thesis.
At this point we are clearly defending Mr Amaral but we are not defending or attacking SF. We will dissect what she has said in further comments where we will try, as always, to be factual and will let, again as always, our readers make up their own minds about her appearance on the Netflix doc.
A VERY INTERESTING tweet from Jim Gamble:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/JimGamble_INEQE/status/1110108258268839936
Jim GambleVerified account @JimGamble_INEQE
Replying to @Jeepy36 @Andy_Wolf1877 @AharrisonAdrian
Any new analysis, in fact any new material at all should be sent directly to operation grange at the MPS
2:16 AM - 25 Mar 2019
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Why?
Why are we not surprised?
We confess that we are pleasantly surprised with the fact that JG felt the need to make such an absurd and ridiculous suggestion.
Why on earth would new forensics be sent to Grange instead of the PJ when the jurisdiction of the case is clearly Portuguese?
Why hasn’t Jim Gamble replied to the following tweets?
https://twitter.com/grand___wazoo/status/1110114713826938881
The Grand Wazoo @grand___wazoo
Replying to @JimGamble_INEQE @Jeepy36 and
Wouldn’t it be better to send any information to the Portuguese authorities, after all it’s their case? #mccann
2:42 AM - 25 Mar 2019
And:
https://twitter.com/Jeepy36/status/1110174929905954817
Clarice @Jeepy36
Replying to @JimGamble_INEQE @Andy_Wolf1877 @AharrisonAdrian
Why not Portugal?
6:41 AM - 25 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1110208224362483712
ReplyDelete00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @PollyGraph69
Then you should name and shame, because it was an outright lie. I find it very hard to believe you didn't run it past his loonyship first though.
8:54 am - 25 Mar 2019
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Mr Thompson,
When are you going to out the correct gender of those part of the Justice For Madeleine FB group?
You know, those who have pretended to be of a different gender than their FB profile shows and that hasn’t bothered you for years?
We will be waiting, as it’s such a subject that bothers you.
Comment received which has clearly come from Mr Thompson pretending to be a woman:
DeleteAnonymous has left a new comment on your post "Sandra Felgueiras - Portal de Notícias":
Have the people you speak of ever pretended to be a woman so they can talk to real females about their health issues and sex lives as you did with me?
Have they played a female victim?
Have they pretended to have a husband?
Have they posed as a female whilst actually being a seedy man who stalks women every day?
Have they attacked you?
Have they ever lied about you?
I did tell Ben that you were asking questions of him. His response was short and sweet. "Is that freak still obsessing over me? I gave up reading his disgusting blog a long time ago - besides, if I want to read what's on twitter, I'll log in and read it on Twitter"
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 25 Mar 2019, 20:29:00
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“Have the people you speak of ever pretended to be…” confirms that you, Mr Thompson need to out them because you are really becoming obsessed with this gender thing.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1110391862488170496
Delete00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @DuskatChristie @PollyGraph69
Very good for what, being wrong?
There were no facebook groups until 2012. Textusa was fully supported in all groups until he started lying about other antis and threw spiteful tantrums.
Richard Hall didn't start commenting on the case until 2014. Stop using Debbie.
9:03 pm - 25 Mar 2019
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“until he started”
Mr Thompson,
Which one of the 2 members from Justice For Madeleine admin group who are not of the gender they say they are, are you going to expose first?
Are you going to expose them at the same time?
https://twitter.com/anotherviv/status/1110461940009234432
ReplyDeleteViv @anotherviv
Replying to @PollyGraph69
I am afraid I just do not trust you. Name the two "antis" and produce your "solid info on swinging". Textusa writes absurd rubbish with the sole aim of getting people on board and thoroughly discrediting those who believe Kate&Gerry #McCann know exactly what happened to Maddie
1:42 am - 26 Mar 2019
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Please quote us where we have said that we don’t “believe Kate&Gerry #McCann know exactly what happened to Maddie”
All I would conclude is the Mcs may not know where M remains were finally placed or disposed of. If the coffin theory were to be proved correct, however, then they would know.
DeleteLet’s continue with the elephant in the room. Most people are shocked – and so are we – about the fact that Sandra Felgueiras has called Mr Amaral a liar.
ReplyDeleteBut that, however shocking and important it may have been to play SF’s credibility against GA’s it was just a play, one move in the entire game. We will get back to it because it is an interesting move to look at in detail.
But for us, the most important thing about her appearance in the Netflix documentary was not that but what she says both in the article and in episode 1:
“On the first day, “there were only four or five journalists on site”.”
She say she’s in Lisbon, in the RTP studios when she first hears the news. As we know the breaking news was at 07.48 on Sky News and only at 08.06 does the network confirm the disappearance.
It’s a 3 hour drive from Lisbon to Luz. SF says she “only had time to go home to get a change of clothes and went to the Algarve”.
If such was the urgency, then one must ask why wasn’t it on the 13H00 RTP news? As far as we know, only SIC reported live from Luz on May 4.
But what matters is that SF confirms that there was no media circus in Luz on May 4, like the pictures we have published clearly show.
The confirmation of the fact that Luz was stunned on May 4 is VERY IMPORTANT. And it was stunned not because a child had gone missing but because no one knew how to react to the accidental of a child PLUS having called the authorities the previous night to claim she had been abducted.
It has been called to my attention that the last paragraph the word "death" is missing from the last paragraph. It should read:
Delete"The confirmation of the fact that Luz was stunned on May 4 is VERY IMPORTANT. And it was stunned not because a child had gone missing but because no one knew how to react to the accidental death of a child PLUS having called the authorities the previous night to claim she had been abducted."
Thank you to the friend who corrected us!
Under the European Investigation Order, Portugal could request the information about any DNA tests carried out by OG, given that they are still interested in pursuing the case.
ReplyDeleteOr they could request the digital data from the Forensic Archive in U.K. and submit their own request for testing to Mark Perlin.
That needn’t be limited to the samples from the car, but also from the apartment.
Supposing this were to happen and it could be confirmed It was M’s DNA, it would take the case forward very significantly, if not conclusively.
The most conclusive evidence would be the 4 hairs from the car, retained by the Portuguese lab. If they could be proved to be M’s AND showed post-mortem banding, the evidence would appear overwhelming that M is dead and her death is associated with the Mcs.
Maybe all of this could depend on the political will of both countries and their relative strength in relationship to each other in the coming months.
Our reader Whispering has asked us to publish his opinion on episode 1. The reason he’s given was that it was “too much for the blog”. Here it is:
ReplyDelete“Episode 1: Maddie documentary on Netflix.
First thing that struck me was the music, how emotive it was. How the first 4 mins of 'teaser' lined up the obvious bias that would follow.
The reconstructed scenes of people searching (middle-class young holidaymakers, noticeably not from Portugal) were shown upfront in the teaser to suggest the 'search' was thorough and immediate.
I did some research, and it looks like there were 4 camera people working on this, perhaps simultaneously. Reconstructions. Interviews. More on-the-ground documentary material and drone filming over PDL, mostly at dusk, or night.
It seems clear to me that the McCann parents had a large input into this, even though they denied involvement. Where, for instance, did the rather personal home movie material come from, some footage I'd never seen before? How come those in sympathy with them take up or run the narrative?
The use of Summers and Swan is a disgrace. They either paraphrase from their book or/and skew the narrative to influence the viewer. They look desperate to be believed, and desperate for the money.
Neil Berry is (in my opinion) lying. His body language and shifty eye-movements seem to suggest he's doing an interview because he's been TOLD to do it, and is been paid to lie. His story of Maddie diving into the sea to retrieve his daughter's hat is the stuff of science fiction. Neil Berry is now centre stage whereas before he was just a bit player? Swan (from Summer and Swan) tells the story as fact. But she's either quoting Kate McCann or is simply gossip mongering. The use of graphics from Tapas to 5A tries to suggest that the walk is shorter, it cuts out at the front gate as Swann carries on in voice-over. It works quickly, so the view thinks the journey is short.
S&S seem to be stitching up Amaral from the word go: Swan puts the boot in early: 'He was having a late meal, etc. and sent someone else to investigate.' In a reconstruction Amaral and his fellow officers are shown as swarthy suspicious, almost criminal types, straight out of 'The Maltese Falcon'. The lighting is dark, the men are sweating, 'Amaral' is gesticulating as if angry. The Tanner sighting is presented as fact, yet looks farcical - especially the 'man' carrying a child near 5A. Seems as if there's additional material added to the rather bad quality source material from the 2009 Mockumentary.
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ReplyDeleteAn English freelance journalist, Jon Clarke appears around 26mins in. He recalls that he was asked to cover for various English papers and drove to Luz from... somewhere. He shows a receipt from the Bellavista hotel where he stayed; it's dated 4th and 5th May. 2007. The same Bellavista logo can be seen on the small sailing boats that are used earlier to 'cover' the information about children been taken out on the water during their holidays in 2007. When Jon Clarke arrives in Luz, his sole purpose seems to be to have him say, "We've all gone out to dinner and left our kids upstairs." This is reinforced by Summer and Swan. As Jon Clarke arrives by car in Luz, Gerry McCann's sister is on his radio (from 2007) again reinforcing the normality of leaving children sleeping as one dines out. Sandra Felgueiras is intercut throughout and seems to think (or look) as if she's the centre piece to the whole series. She's presented as a TV star... and her performance made me feel uneasy.
This first episode then hops to America to show how missing children alerts are coordinated over there. Amaral 's words seem to be edited to suggest self-criticism, as if Portugal is backward. There's also the suggestion that PDL and its surrounding landscape is covered in (water) wells and a child could have fallen down any of these. A lot of padding follows - archive footage of PDL before the boom; how safe it was, etc. Sandra being nostalgic. A former English restaurant owner says that people come to PDL and Portugal and they can pretend to be anyone! This sets up Robert Murat for the next episode.
By the way, I think the Portuguese woman Maria might be married to Fireman Pat – Mr Jones.
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Thank you Whispering!
Look at https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm do a ctrl+f and type 'pcr'. PCR is an established technique of replicating a chain of dna and making a 'small, criminally irrelevant' sample a sample as large as needed.
ReplyDeleteNote locale of this procedure.
Are we to believe PJ gave EVERYTHING to FSS, foregoing even their own digital data? I can't see any mention of PCR in Lowe's report. In fact, even spelling out Polyamerase Chain Reaction in a search, it only appears in Portuguese forensics.
So are we to believe that this lawless backwater country had better forensic techniques than the much vaunted (though since well discredited) FSS in 2007? That would seem counter to the narrative we're fed...it couldn't be that Portugal were trying and UK weren't...could it?
Very interesting.
DeleteI’d never noticed that info about the Portuguese lab using a different technique. After all, their tests were being undertaken by Professor Corte Real and FSS by Lowe, who was NOT Dr Lowe at the time, as he lists his qualifications.
To clarify my comment
DeleteLowe does describe himself as a forensic doctor but does not state he had a PhD.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1110711416770740225
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Even CdM has turned.. https://www.cmjornal.pt/mundo/detalhe/afinal-o-carro-dos-mccann-nao-tinha-vestigios-de-sangue-os-mitos-e-teorias-no-caso-do-desaparecimento-de-maddie?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral … "However, the truth is that there is no record of the animal's success rate to support this claim. All traces found by dogs must always be supported by forensic evidence that has never been found.."
:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=pt-BR&sp=nmt4&u=https://www.cmjornal.pt/mundo/detalhe/afinal-o-carro-dos-mccann-nao-tinha-vestigios-de-sangue-os-mitos-e-teorias-no-caso-do-desaparecimento-de-maddie%3Fref%3DHP_DestaqueLateral&xid=17259,15700021,15700186,15700190,15700248,15700253&usg=ALkJrhgOozsIJFpaC7v8H8hmKIeNEr58Yg … #mccann
6:13 pm - 26 Mar 2019
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The translation of the CdM article linked up by the Frog in her tweet:
https://www.cmjornal.pt/mundo/detalhe/afinal-o-carro-dos-mccann-nao-tinha-vestigios-de-sangue-os-mitos-e-teorias-no-caso-do-desaparecimento-de-maddie
After all, the McCanns' car had no vestiges of blood. The myths and theories in the case of Maddie's disappearance
Netflix documentary has been revealing some surprises about the case.
26.03.19
Almost 12 years later, nothing is known about Madeleine McCann's whereabouts. The Netflix documentary series has brought to the surface various theories and myths around one of the most mediatic investigations ever.
During the investigations, the parents of Madeleine were constituted arguidos by the Portuguese PJ. Kate and Gerry McCann came to be the prime suspects in their daughter's disappearance, and public opinion spared no accusations to the couple.
Throughout the documentary, news from newspaper headlines were revived and rummaged, in detail, the investigations and alleged evidences that the authorities had against Kate and Gerry McCann.
The blood and DNA found in the McCann's car and apartment
The former PJ Chief Inspector, Gonçalo Amaral, and the remaining investigation team, considered that that blood and DNA found in the McCann's car and apartment were more than enough evidence to claim that the parents had killed Maddie.
During the search, the two dogs given by the British police detected cadaver odour in apartment 5A in Praia da Luz, where the child disappeared, as well as blood in the car that the couple rented a month after the disappearance of their daughter.
Martin Grime, one of the trainers, revealed that Eddie, the dog who had sniffed blood-in the car, was already with six years of operations and more than 200 successful cases.
However, the truth is that there is no record of the animal's success rate to support this claim. All traces found by dogs must always be supported by forensic evidence that has never been found - according to forensic inspectors, who give their testimony throughout the documentary, no blood was ever found in the luggage compartment of the car or behind the sofa in the apartment.
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ReplyDeleteThe DNA found in the Ocean Club lodging was inconclusive and could belong to anyone.
The lack of emotion on the part of the McCanns
The fact that the McCanns presented themselves very controlled and unemotional from the first moment their daughter disappeared was one of the reasons that raised the suspicions of crime over the couple. However, it has now become known that Kate and Gerry were advised to maintain an unemotional posture to protect their daughter, in case the supposed abductor felt any kind of pleasure in seeing the despair of the parents.
Madeleine McCann and the twins were sedated to sleep by their parents during the night while they dined with friends
During the investigation appeared the hypothesis that Maddie had been sedated by her parents. Gonçalo Amaral believes that the McCanns put the girl to sleep and that she ended up dying in her sleep.
In statements to CMTV, during an investigation of the reconstitution of the girl's disappearance, the former inspector revealed that in a statement Kate McCann stated that in the night that Madeleine disappeared she spent all of the dawn awake and attentive to the twins' breathing.
However, Kate and Gerry claim that they never sedated their children, despite having taken several medications and sedatives in their suitcase.
Staging a crime with the help and cover-up of Kate and Gerry McCann's friends
The Sol newspaper asked one of the family's friends, David Payne, if he could give details of the night Maddie disappeared, to which he replied: "This is a matter that only matters to us. We have a pact of silence and all questions and comments must be passed by Gerry McCann. "
However, the quote seems to have been misinterpreted by the journalist. In an official communiqué issued by the McCanns and friends, all denied the existence of any pact to cover up a conspiracy and that this reply was only justified by the need to cooperate with the Portuguese laws that refer to the secrecy of justice.
To this day, the investigations continue to be an unknown hanging over Praia da Luz in the Algarve and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann on May 3, 2007 continues to be one of the most mysterious cases of recent years.
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It’s been a long time we felt this disgusted in translating something. But there it is for our readers to make their own judgements about it.
From us we can only transcribe in its entirety a post from us, as a message to Correio da Manhã:
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2013/11/cmtv-19-oct-2013.html
“Tuesday, 19 November 2013
CMTV - 19 Nov 2013
The video shown is a news piece within CMTV’s “Notícias das 8” (8 O’Clock News) that aired on 19 Nov 2013.
It uses footage from various programs aired by CMTV on the subject including the “Especial Maddie” aired on 16 Nov 2013 and repeated on 17 Nov 2013.
Immediately after airing of this news piece, the anchorman, José Carlos Castro, read the following communiqué, which we consider very relevant:
“E passo agora a ler uma nota da Direção:
A Direção do Correio da Manhã reitera o compromisso público junto dos leitores e dos espectadores que vai continuar a investigar o desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann recorrendo a todos os meios legítimos e necessários.
A equipa CMTV/Correio da Manhã não descansará enquanto não for descoberta toda a verdade sobre o desaparecimento da menina de 4 anos da Praia da Luz no dia 3 de Maio de 2007.”
Which translates to:
“And I will now read a note from the Direction:
The Correio da Manhã Direction reiterates the public commitment to its readers and viewers that it’s going to continue to investigate the disappearance of Madeleine McCann using all legitimate and necessary means.
The CMTV / Correio da Manhã team will not rest until the truth about the disappearance of the 4 year old girl from Praia da Luz on May 3 2007 is discovered.””
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CdM, just a reminder of what you said in 2013.
Any newspaper relying on Netflix documentary for truth and accuracy given its narrators were Summers and Swan, is on very shaky ground.
DeleteThey are also undermining the reputation of their own PJ.
Have they changed editor?
Let’s hope Silver gets her critique out soon!
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-dna-evidence-rental-car-perlin-lowe-maddie-podcast/aeb0d15d-c299-4944-aa3e-30dc11cfa533
ReplyDeleteNews / World
Why a UK lab 'failed' to solve critical McCann DNA samples
By Mark Saunokonoko
2:04pm Mar 25, 2019
In September 2007 a British scientist responsible for solving a series of potentially critical DNA samples that could have helped explain what happened to missing girl Madeleine McCann wrote an email to police.
Dr John Lowe and a team of forensic scientists at the UK laboratory, Forensic Science Service (FSS), had been trying to crack DNA samples Portuguese detectives had sent them, following an intense search by dogs trained to detect the odour of a dead body and human blood.
The DNA evidence included samples taken from the holiday apartment Madeleine and her family had stayed in and the boot compartment of a hire car rented by Kate and Gerry McCann weeks after their daughter suddenly vanished.
Dr Lowe's email, featured verbatim in this article, was sent to a senior Leicestershire Police detective named Stuart Prior. Detective Prior was leading the UK police presence in Praia da Luz, and was the key point of contact for his Portuguese policing counterparts.
A DNA sample, labelled 286C 2007 CRL10, which was lifted from the luggage compartment of a silver Renault Scenic hired by the McCann's had left Dr Lowe's team particularly confused.
"Let's look at the question that is being asked," Dr Lowe about that particular sample.
"Is there DNA from Madeline (sic) on the swab?
"It would be very easy to say, 'Yes' simply because of the number of [DNA] components within the result that are also in her reference sample," continued Dr Lowe.
But ultimately Dr Lowe concluded that sample was "too complex for meaningful interpretation".
The presence of Madeleine's DNA in the boot of the car would have possibly indicated her body had somehow been in the luggage compartment of the Renault Scenic.
DNA samples are easy to solve when the sample contains just one person's DNA and the size of the sample for scientists to test is large.
https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/M76CJoPWx0MSmkM-TFrRdeNB4cQ=/800x0/smart/http%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2F392b9fd5-607e-4056-8dbd-d4bdc9097c21
But testing becomes much more difficult when the sample is tiny; that is infinitely more complicated when there is DNA from two, three, four or more people in the sample.
Those complications are further intensified when there are siblings involved. Dr Lowe references all these difficulties and frustrations in his email to Prior.
Dr Lowe states the result of that sample was "inconclusive". The FSS ruled "inconclusive" on many of the dozens of samples the lab had been sent.
In episode five of Maddie, Nine.com.au's podcast investigation into Madeleine's unusual disappearance, one of the world's leading DNA scientists, Dr Mark Perlin, explains why the FSS testing "failed" in 2007.
Dr Perlin outlines how the advanced testing methods in his Pittsburgh lab can solve the DNA evidence that stumped FSS forensic scientists.
Three months after Madeleine vanished a cadaver and human blood dog made a series of alerts in the McCann holiday apartment and rental car.
The "inconclusive" DNA results from the FSS appeared to cast doubt over the work carried out by the dogs. Any alerts made by cadaver and blood dogs need to be corroborated by additional evidence, such as DNA, a confession or a body.
Since 2007, the McCanns have strenuously denied they were involved in the disappearance of their daughter. Nine.com.au does not suggest any involvement on their part.
Madeleine, then aged three, went missing while on holiday with her family in Praia da Luz, a coastal town on Portugal's Algarve.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-dna-evidence-car-perlin-cybergenetics-maddie-podcast/97e1ae48-2391-4d10-805d-2055a67e49ca
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EXCLUSIVE 'Maddie's DNA possibly in car boot': Top US scientist has key to unlock baffling McCann forensic riddle
By Mark Saunokonoko
1:58pm Mar 26, 2019
Eleven years ago a UK forensics laboratory hit a frustrating dead end in the Madeleine McCann case when a team of its best scientists were unable to unravel potentially critical DNA evidence.
It was evidence which could have worked out if the missing British girl's DNA was in the boot of a rental car hired by her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, 25 days after she was reported missing, on May 3, 2007.
At the time, those DNA samples were judged "inconclusive" by a UK lab, the Forensic Science Service (FSS).
But now one of the leading DNA scientists in the world, Dr Mark Perlin, has claimed he needs just one week to crack those once indecipherable samples, including the swabs taken from the boot compartment of that hire car.
Dr Perlin said it was "possible" Madeleine's DNA was present in the McCann hire car, potentially opening up a line of the police inquiry that was seemingly shut down by the 2007 "inconclusive" DNA results.
"What was interesting about the report from the FSS 10 years ago is they're trying to interpret [the McCann DNA] data," Dr Perlin said.
"The approach [the FSS would] like to take for a match statistic makes sense, but the way they are going about it is just very old fashioned and it doesn't work - certainly compared with modern methods.
Dr Perlin's powerful DNA testing software, widely regarded as the most sophisticated on the planet, is a quantum leap ahead of the forensic science used in 2007, when the McCann samples were tested.
The chief scientist of US-based Cybergenetics, Dr Perlin, said the UK lab that conducted the DNA tests "failed" when it returned a series of inconclusive results to Portuguese police.
"What this [FSS] report says is there is a possibility that Madeleine McCann's DNA is present in this mixture," said Dr Perlin - who Nine.com.au sent a copy of the FSS DNA report which was handed to Portuguese police in September 2007.
Interviewed exclusively in the fifth episode of Maddie, Nine.com.au's podcast investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, Dr Perlin explained how the limited testing methods used by the FSS in the McCann case were doomed to fail.
He stated the raft of DNA samples deemed "inconclusive" by the FSS may hold significant case-changing information. Dr Perlin also said the older FSS testing methods in 2007 were subjective and open to human bias.
"[If] a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can't interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice; of guilty people not being convicted, of innocent people staying in prison.
"What is needed is an objective and accurate interpretation that can scientifically resolve the DNA," he said.
Dr Perlin said the modern computational DNA testing methods he has pioneered, known as TrueAllele can now unlock that evidence, and assist the London Metropolitan Police investigation.
Considering the testing methods available in 2007, "it was no surprise" the FSS had failed, Dr Perlin said.
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ReplyDeleteNine.com.au has contacted Operation Grange - the UK's investigation into disappearance of Madeleine McCann - with this information.
"TrueAllele has been used successfully in the UK and elsewhere around the world to solve problems just like this, and if [the London Metropolitan Police] want to know the answer it won't cost them anything. Just send us the data and we will give them the answer."
Dr Perlin said forensic organisations around the world, such as the FSS and other official UK bodies, routinely hold and archive the data his lab needs to make the analysis.
"It would be a great way to resolve the case using modern technology and get a definitive answer to at least this one question that had perplexed the FSS ten years ago," he said.
FSS METHODS 'DON'T WORK
In 2016, Dr Perlin's lab successfully analysed a remarkably small and complex piece of DNA evidence in a high-profile mass murder trial in Sydney, Australia.
The top prosecutor in NSW described the sample cracked by Cybergenetics as the most challenging DNA evidence that had ever been presented in an Australian courtroom. That DNA evidence was believed pivotal in securing a guilty verdict against Robert Xie, after three of his earlier murder trials had been plagued by hung juries and aborted for various reasons.
Dr Perlin has testified about DNA samples which have been analysed by Cybergenetics hundreds of times in US state, federal, military and foreign courts.
He said Cybergenetics had been used in cases just like Madeleine McCann's "where there are complex mixtures, a small amount of DNA [and] many contributors."
"[Cybergenetics] was able to separate those mixtures make a comparison and reach sound scientific conclusions," Dr Perlin claimed.
Some of the McCann DNA samples which stumped the FSS scientists were very small and had multiple contributors.
Portuguese forensics teams had focused on the McCann hire car and certain areas of interest inside the family's holiday apartment after intensive search work by two specialist cadaver dogs, three months after Madeleine went missing.
Trained to detect the scent of death and human blood, the two British dogs had alerted inside the apartment, car and on several personal family possessions. Any alerts by cadaver dogs need to be corroborated by additional evidence, such as DNA.
The inconclusive DNA results delivered by the FSS scientists appeared to cast serious doubt over the 13 alerts made by the dogs in potential crime scenes.
POWER TO IDENTIFY 9/11 VICTIMS
Cybergenetics has forged a global reputation through solving previously unsolvable DNA samples. Its TrueAllele technology harnesses tremendously powerful computer algorithms to analyse microscopic and highly complex DNA samples.
Dr John Lowe, the senior scientist at the FSS responsible for solving the McCann DNA samples, stated in his final report that his team could not resolve the evidence because it was too challenging.
Establishing accurate results was also complicated by the fact Madeleine had a younger twin brother and sister, Sean and Amelie, Dr Lowe of the FSS said.
TrueAllele has played a pivotal role in a number of high-profile US criminal trials involving wrongful convictions and controversial prosecutions. Dr Perlin helped identify victims of the 9/11 terror attack, where New York's twin towers collapsed catastrophically, with TrueAllele.
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HEAT UP A COLD CASE
In the Maddie podcast, Dr Perlin explained exactly how modern DNA software can reboot the McCann cold case. Madeleine would be 16 years old in May this year.
Portuguese police sent dozens of DNA samples to the FSS in 2007.
Forensics teams lifted floor tiles and took DNA swabs from behind a blue two-seat sofa in the lounge area of the McCann holiday apartment. Sections of the boot compartment in the Renault Scenic hire car were also cut out and expressed to the FSS.
Since 2007, the McCanns have strenuously denied they were involved in the disappearance of their daughter. Nine.com.au does not suggest any involvement on their part.
Madeleine went missing while on holiday with her family in Portugal.
When Lowe said one of results could be a mix of 3 or possibly 5 people, I wonder if he could mean:
ReplyDelete3 = K, G and M
5= K, G, S, A and M
Just conjecture.
If it was the case, and I’m not saying it was, it meant he would be aware who all the contributors were as the profiles of all 5 were available to him.
Maybe someone can explain how many different DNA profiles in a mixed sample can be identified.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8724304/madeleine-mccann-dna-holiday-home-hire-car-expert/
ReplyDeleteThe scientist isn’t anonymous. It’s just the usual Sun inaccuracy or wilful ignorance.
DR MARK PERLIN is the name. Sun editor please note.
Unpublished Anne Guedes at 27 Mar 2019, 23:47:00,
ReplyDeleteAfter you opted to go over to NotTextusa to attack and lie about us, after you went on Twitter to attack and above all after your repugnant comment in describing the girl’s stalker as her "budding saviour" you attempt to comment on the blog? Seriously?
What about an apology instead?
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1111069344040189952
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @regretkay @BourgeoisViews and 48 others
The results of any analysis will hold no more weight than Lowe's report & do not prove anything.
5:55 pm - 27 Mar 2019
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As if.
And the wishful thinking was noted.
That’s why other countries, including UK, send their DNA information to Dr Perlin’s company for analysis.
DeleteIn the early 2000s, his company Cybergenetics was used by the U.K. to deal with a backlog of unanalysed data. So the U.K. must have accepted the results the company produced.
Anonymous 28 Mar 2019, 13:09:00
DeleteThank you!
Look at what we found, a link between FSS and Cybergenetics in… 2004!
https://www.cybgen.com/information/press-release/2004/Forensic-Science-Service-Expands-License-for-Cybergenetics-Automated-DNA-Data-Review-Technology/page.shtml
21-Jul-2004
Forensic Science Service Expands License for Cybergenetics Automated DNA Data Review Technology
Cybergenetics, Corp. today announced that the Forensic Science Service (FSS), an executive agency of the British Home Office, expanded its license for Cybergenetics TrueAllele® technology to crime scene evidence. Three years ago, the FSS became the first group to validate and operate the TrueAllele software for automated forensic DNA data review. The FSS uses the TrueAllele process for the UK National DNA Database, which stores over two and a half million profiles and is the largest of its kind in the world. Cybergenetics pioneering technology uses proprietary computational methods that fully automate routine DNA analysis, replacing the slow and costly manual scoring that represents a substantial portion of the cost of analyzing DNA data.
"It is natural that the FSS, the long-time world leader in DNA forensics, is the first to apply our TrueAllele forensics technology to crime scene evidence," said Dr. Mark Perlin, chief executive officer of Cybergenetics. "The intelligent computerized TrueAllele system greatly reduces the time, cost, error and tedium of manually reviewing forensic data. We expect the FSS to realize further efficiency gains in applying TrueAllele interpretation to DNA evidence."
"The FSS has long been the world leader in automating forensic DNA," said Dr. Dave Werrett, chief executive of the FSS. "We created the first large-scale national DNA databank, along with the laboratory production and information delivery services that provide effective DNA intelligence to our police. The TrueAllele process helps analyze roughly 350,000 DNA database profiles for the FSS each year, with high accuracy and rapid turnaround time. We are pleased to extend our TrueAllele license to crime scene DNA evidence, applying Cybergenetics automated interpretation technology to an estimated 100,000 crime stains each year."
The UK National DNA Database assists police in catching criminals by matching DNA from crime scene evidence to a database of known offenders. This DNA database averages 100 hits a day, and has been instrumental in securing the convictions of thousands of offenders. In conjunction with Cybergenetics TrueAllele technology, 95% of UK DNA Database profiles are analyzed and entered within 5 days. Moreover, 95% of crime scene DNA evidence samples are processed within 10 days. There is no DNA backlog in the UK.
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DeleteConventional DNA data editing is a labor-intensive task that requires human review of every genotype and involves significant time and expense. Cybergenetics TrueAllele software is an automated intelligent system that performs approximately 90 percent of this routine data review rapidly, cost effectively and with a high degree of accuracy, enabling technical staff to focus on the small number of problematic samples. The TrueAllele technology is protected by US patents 5,541,067, 5,580,728, 5,876,933, 6,054,268 and 6,750,011; international patents are pending.
Financial details of the license were not disclosed.
About Cybergenetics
Cybergenetics is the leading innovator of automated forensic DNA interpretation technology. Its flagship TrueAllele System 2 software generates high quality offender profiles for the UK National DNA Database, and has been scientifically validated in the United States. This year, Cybergenetics will release TrueAllele System 3, an automated forensic casework process for real-time interpretation of complex DNA evidence. More information on Cybergenetics can be found at www.cybgen.com.
About the Forensic Science Service
The Forensic Science Service (FSS) is an executive agency of the UK Home Office, and is the market leader in the supply of forensic science services to police forces in England and Wales. It is also a source of training, consultancy, and scientific support for many overseas and private sector customers. The FSS is in the vanguard of forensic science technology and has an unrivalled reputation for the integrity, impartiality and accuracy of its findings. More information on the FSS can be found at www.forensic.gov.uk.
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This is 2004! We are staggered to have found this link!
The FSS were using them. So why weren’t Cybergenetics used for Maddie case, 3 years later?
They obviously didn’t use them or Mark Perlin wouldn’t be offering to analyse the results now.
It may be that the software used by Cybernetics has also greatly advanced since then but there was no ref in Lowe’s report, when he says “ at this stage” for some results, of any possibility of further analysis.
I just looked at Lowe reports and there is no mention of Cybernetics or any suggestion of anyone other than FSS itself analysing the samples
DeleteIt stinks!
I’m surprised Mark S and Mark Perlin made no mention of Cybernetics working with FSS before the Mc case.
FSS not using them speaks volumes.
DeleteLowe says this about 2 items from luggage compartment of the car.
“too complex to interpret AT THIS STAGE.”
1 sample is at least 2 people and 1 sample is at least 3.
What exactly does he mean by
“at this stage”?
It implies another stage was possible.
That surely was a software analysis available to them through their use of Cryogenics since 2004?
Likewise for a number of “low level incomplete samples” he identifies from 5A.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1568486/brit-cops-confirm-end-of-forensic-work-in-hunt-for-missing-madeleine-mccann/
Deletehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8738452/madeleine-mccann-portuguese-cop-amaral-memoir/
ReplyDeleteFlagrant breach of copyright to sell an English translation. We have seen this before and have asked for this to be reported every time this happens.
It's very clear that Mr Amaral won’t make anything from this.
Why then is the Sun advertising the book?
https://www.amazon.it/sp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B002CPPI76&isAmazonFulfilled=&isCBA=&marketplaceID=APJ6JRA9NG5V4&orderID=&seller=A2BEFXTMTBPYIA&tab=home&vasStoreID=
DeleteHere are details of seller DZK.
Maybe if Mr Amaral's publishers see it, they can take action.
Have you seen this, Textusa?
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Anonymous 31 Mar 2019, 07:43:00,
DeleteYes we have and publishing a post very soon about it.
Have now done so.
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