Foreword: As this post was lengthy it was posted in 3 parts. Today, we are publishing the third and final part.
However, this week we realised that what was left to be published was still too big for a single post.
Because of that we have decided to take a part of it out, although originating from some of Stephen Carpenter's words, it takes us to a totally different subject. If there aren't any surprises, this will be published next week as a post called “Luz's secret service”.
6. The Laundryman plot
Laundryman, Mário Marreiros, had to be discredited.
In the exact same way the Greyhairman plot was to make Raj Balu and Neil Berry win credits the Laundryman plot is to make Mário Marreiros, the laundryman, lose his.
The fact that he would have told the PJ that he saw a guest, Neil Berry, in an odd place at an odd hour, had to be countered. A shadow of suspicion had to be put to over him.
Then, whatever he had said, his words must be taken by PJ as those of someone trying to shrug the guilt off his shoulders and doing his best to point fingers at others, in this case Berry, to distract.
The laundryman makes his appearance on the stage, via a mysterious van. A van that appears completely out of context when Carpenter is describing where his apartment is located.
“DC Ferguson: That’s true, I see.
Carpenter: The bushes were all around here, we were on the ground floor, it was all open here, and that’s why I now think (inaudible) you know, that the idea that, humm... for which I mentioned in the interrogation that there was a van from the laundry that parked and other things.”
So he sees a van parked in the cul-de-sac. Is that mysterious?
The true mystery about the van, as will be seen, is why is the van has ever become mysterious.
We believe that some or most of Ocean Clubs administrative services, like maintenance, laundry and cleaning are based in the building in which Fiji Palms is part of. Fiji Palms is where Carpenter is staying in apartment FP02.
We know that the building has the indoor pool, the crèche and the 24 hour reception. So we find it perfectly natural for that cul-de-sac to be used by vehicles used by the Ocean Club for its client support services.
Why does Carpenter say it’s a van from the laundry? He speaks not of any logo on it or of any other mark that would identify it being used for laundry. Is it even from the Ocean Club? As we'll see later Carpenter doesn’t see anyone near it, drive it, load it or unload it. So why call it a laundry van?
We will come back to the van later.
Now let’s see what Carpenter has to say about Laundryman.
As we said in the previous week, Balu and Berry “sent” him looking for Greyhairman and then they exited the stage.
It’s in these searches for Greyhairman that Carpenter “finds” Laundryman.
“DC Ferguson: …It is likely that my papers are not in sequence because this page is more about the details of the search of the apartments near Gerry's apartment and speaks of the laundryman.
Carpenter: Yes, yes.
DC Ferguson: And of the reconnaissance done.
Carpenter: I remember that, yes.
DC Ferguson: You spoke with a man who later showed you a garage where there was a bed.”
Carpenter says he finds this garage together with Dave Shelton, whose name he doesn't remember although having spent quite a long time with him:
“Carpenter: … I can't remember the name of the individual, who I also met by chance, and who was doing a little of translator, what was his name again, who helped to open the doors.
DC Ferguson: Was it John HILL?
Carpenter: No, John Hill was a Mark Warner employee, I forgot his name, but he...humm also knew the local Estate Agent and different people who helped to get the keys of the owners or potential renters, some of whom were on holiday.
DC Ferguson: Yes.
Carpenter: And once the garage door was opened, it wasn’t a garage for single a car, it was like a "capsule", that went back about six or nine metres as it became larger where there was a bed in the corner, and all else, and it was when we were looking for this, searching this, the English man with greying hair who I didn’t know who he was, but who had explained to me.
DC Ferguson: Yes.
Carpenter: Humm... this garage belonged to a Portuguese man, the laundryman.
DC Ferguson: Yes.”
Dave knows the garage. Dave knows it belongs to a Portuguese. Dave knows it belongs to the Laundryman.
Now is the time to explain why we’re certain that Laundryman is Mário Marreiros. The reason is very simple, there are 3 people working in Ocean Club’s laundry and 2 of them are women: Vera Arez and Sílvia Cravinho.
The only laundryman Ocean Club has is Mário Marreiros.
Dave must know him and his son because he answers the question put to him by Carpenter about who lives in the garage:
“Carpenter: And while we entered there [the garage] I asked who lived there, he replied that his [the Laundryman's] son lived there and then there were toys because I was concentrated on the fifty year old English man [Greyhairman], this one is Portuguese [Laundryman], it was only afterwards when I later thought about what we were searching for, it didn't occur to me but I think it was because of this that I mentioned in my statement two weeks later, because I think there were some distortions.
DC Ferguson: Yes.
Carpenter: Of course with Murat, there is Murat and the Russian individual, you know....I thought that well, we might well be looking for the totally wrong person and the fact that a bed existed in the garage and some children's toys.
DC Ferguson: Yes.
Carpenter: I thought, ohhh...it’s worth mentioning this and that's the reason I mentioned this in my statement.”
A garage with a bed and children’s toys out of context lying around and this doesn’t raise red flags when looking for a possible abducted little girl?
No, because Carpenter was concentrating on Greyhairman, remember? Why Dave doesn't react to this as one would expect him to, we don't know.
Now, here Carpenter makes a big mistake. Garages in Portugal are commodities. Only in the last 25 years have buildings, all over Portugal, started to have communal parking spaces in their basements. Before that, there weren't that many cars and there were always enough parking spaces in the streets.
This lack of garages is aggravated in tourist regions like the Algarve. Buildings tend to exploit all their space, so are all made up of apartments which can be sold for seasonal use, or rented for holidays.
Garages are a luxury. Very, very rare. In the Algarve even more so. One may find communal garages but individual ones are very hard to find. Not that there aren't any, in fact we found 3:
We don't know if there any others but certainly anyone living in such a garage would be common knowledge in Luz.
The garage described seems to be quite big but is too small to be communal. And a bed, cupboards and toys in a communal garage is something completely unrealistic.
In the area Carpenter describes he searches, around block 5, there are no individual garages. Only a communal one at the end of Rua dr Agostinho da Silva, in a building that is not part of Ocean Club and it doesn't look like “Laundryman's garage”:
So we would really like to know exactly where this “Laundryman's garage” was located and who supplied the keys to open it.
Then Carpenter makes the link between Laundryman and the mystery van:
“DC Ferguson: Fine, now (inaudible) describe to me the Portuguese man, the laundryman, yes?
DC Ferguson: I am certain that I read about this at the beginning, which (inaudible)?
Carpenter: I think that after, and coincides after with the fact that he was the laundryman and the van parked there, because as I have already explained, we were here in a small street above here which linked to the main road and to everything beside here on top, the rest was all pathways and I think that on two or three occasions I thought...this is a dead end road, there was this van was parked there, I never saw anyone and once more assumed that it would be the cleaning staff and only this thought coincided with the presence of the laundryman, that is if there was any answer to be given in relation to the connection between the van parked there and the laundryman.
DC Ferguson: Yes.
Carpenter: Murat here, I thought and the laundry thing here.
DC Ferguson: Yes
Carpenter: And because of it once more a reason why I mentioned the subject.”
A van that he never sees being used. It’s just a parked van:
“DC Ferguson: This is the part where you mention that there was a van, and as you said was parked at the back of Robert Murat’s garden, and you never saw anyone use the van, but you remember assuming that it had something to do with the cleaning staff.
Carpenter: Yes, to transport the bed linen and towels.
DC Ferguson: Yes. It says here that you never saw anyone drive it, you know only that you saw it parked, did you ever notice that it was missing or do you remember always seeing it there'
Carpenter: Humm, no...it was not always there, it was about two or three times that I saw it.”
What would be strange would be not to see any vehicle parked there. The cul-de-sac has parking spaces!
The Google Maps image shows cars parked there. And Google Maps' Street View shows vehicles on it.
One, a van. Could it be “Carpenter’s van”?
But then comes the surreal moment:
“DC Ferguson: Of what age did the laundry man appear to be?
Carpenter: Humm, I don’t remember clearly what I said, but obviously sometimes Europeans appear being older, because…
DC Ferguson:... (inaudible) the sun.
Carpenter: Yes with the sun, and a bit out of character, was what I stated in the statement (inaudible).
DC Ferguson: I’m trying to locate the front pages where you mentioned, but there is no description.
Carpenter: Forty five to fifty years old, I think.
DC Ferguson: I'm only thinking what age the man would have, the man that I met was difficult to say, but he would have been of an age to be able to have a small child living in the garage or it could be expected that the had a grown up child.
Carpenter: Oh, I think he would have been of an age able, you know.... of eighteen years, twenty or twenty two years old living in the back of the garage because it had large cupboards and other things, but to live in a garage it requires someone of eighteen years old or more, for a question of safety and even because it isn’t the best way to live.
DC Ferguson: No. Then as you say the children's toys seemed to you to be out of context'
Carpenter: Yes, yes.
DC Ferguson: Yes.
Carpenter: Yes, mainly because I’m thinking of someone aged eighteen or slightly older.”
Fascinating. Simply amazing. Carpenter describes a man he’s never seen but says “the man that I met” is 45 to 50 yrs old and skin darkened by the Sun.
He then tries to explain how he gets to the 45/50 number: because he estimates that whoever is living there is 18 to 22 yrs old so Laundryman must be around 45 to 50 yrs old.
Then why the talk about the Sun making people looking older than they really are? Was it or was it not a pure mathematical estimation?
He did say in 2007 “the man that I met was difficult to say”. To be very clear about this phrase this is what is in the PJ Files in Portuguese: “o homem que eu conheci era difícil de dizer”.
So where, when and under what circumstances did Carpenter meet Laundryman?
Didn’t we tell you that Carpenter was a fascinating man?
Maybe what he really meant to say was “the man that I was shown was difficult to say”. That would probably be more truthful.
But the irony of it all is that Marreiros, the laundryman, has said nothing to the PJ. The Black Hats cannot know because Marreiros was heard in Portuguese by a Portuguese. No need for anyone else to be present.
We are almost certain that Murat was trying to find out what Marreiros had said on May 8 when Gonçalo Amaral says the following in his book: “He [Robert Murat] has tried, in a furtive way, to look at the police files”.
Gonçalo Amaral must have based his words on what Inspector Pedro Varanda had to say on May 11, 2007: “It should be mentioned that this suspicion would be further consolidated, following the fact that I became aware that ROBERT MURAT tried furtively and insistently to look at the various procedural pieces that are part of the present inquiry, while the signatory looked at them, in order to carry out the inquiry of DIANNE WEBSTER.”
Dianne Webster was heard for the second time on that day, Friday May 11, and we now know that it was on the morning of that day that Murat was put on the PJ's radar. His every move was from then on being observed with the utmost attention. Thus the report from Inspector Pedro Varanda.
As we said, it's our opinion that when Marreiros says “he does not know of anything suspicious that could be related to the events” he's not saying what he saw simply because he just wanted to distance himself from the case.
But, after having heard Carpenter and all about the Laundryman's garage, son and out of context children's toys, the PJ just had to go back and speak to Marreiros again. This is what we think happened:
“Where’s the garage your son lives in?” they asked.
“Eh? What?!” he answered.
“You know the one with the bed, big cupboards and children’s toys..” they insisted.
“What???” he answered again. “Who has said that?!” he asked.
“A British guest says he saw children’s toys in a garage where your son lives” they answered.
“A British guest told you I had a garage? Is that so? And a son living there with children's toys? The 'Bifes' want to make me a patsy?! Well then, let me tell you about a 'Bife' guest who I saw the evening the girl disappeared, where exactly I saw him and I'll even tell you who he is because I saw him again the next day parading himself…”
If Carpenter hadn’t brought up Laundryman, we would never have known about Berry being in the stairs.
That’s what happens when you over-egg an over-egged pudding that wasn't a pudding in the first place and so didn't need any eggs.
7. Miscellaneous Feet-in-the-mouth
But what makes Carpenter fascinating doesn’t end in the 3 failed plots. During the course, or discourse of both his statements (one on May 17, 2007, the other on April 21, 2008 and both mixed up in the latter) the complexity of all the inner plots gets, in our opinion, the better of Carpenter.
In an attempt to connect the irreparably disconnected and patch up what is visibly shredded, Carpenter tries with this and that detail to bring some sort of what he thinks to be realism to a an absurd tale.
In doing so he fills his statement with things that it simply would have been better not said. The lapsus linguae.
7.1. The Carpenter family lapsus linguae
Has the reader noted that Carpenter leaves his apartment very early in the morning and doesn’t return to it? The closest he is to it is when he hears Murat’s voice but from then on he really seems to have had a busy day!
What did his family do all day? How did his family know what he was up to?
We don’t know.
The crèche records show no one from FP02 registered. There's a Lobster's page with no date that we're assuming to be that of May 4. It hasn't got anyone from FP02. The Jellyfish one of that day also doesn't have anyone from that apartment.
For all we know, or from what he seems to tell us, Carolyn Carpenter, 5 month FC and IC aged 3 and half spent their entire day holed up in their apartment with a view only of the thick vegetation of Murat's property.
7.2. The resort's welcome meetings lapsus linguae
On the day of arrival:
“DC Ferguson: Approximately at 16:15 of that same day [Saturday, April 28] you attended a crèche meeting …
DC Ferguson: “On Sunday, April 29, Carolyn and I participated in the Mark Warner’s tennis group morning coffee where I met Gerry, Kate, Julian, Curtis , Rachael, Annie, Georgina, Annie’s sister, and Ann, there were other tourists whose names I have forgotten. There were, in total, approximately 16 people in that morning coffee and tennis was one of the activities that you, or both of you signed up during the week”
Gerry contradicts this. He says tennis meeting was on Saturday and makes no mention of a crèche meetings:
“Subsequently, at 17h00 [Saturday, April 28], the whole group, including children, went to the TAPAS situated at the back of the apartments, next to the pool, to attend a welcoming committee arranged by MARK WARNER where they met with instructors in tennis and sailing and other resort employees, which ended at 18h30, glasses of sangria having been served to them.”
Welcome meetings are held by some holiday companies. They usually try to sell coach trips to tourist sites. But to explain how a crèche works?
What about childless couples? Did they have to listen?
Same about tennis. Those not playing the sport had to sit through it? Carpenter says that only 16 attended the tennis morning coffee but the question remains, so did Ocean Club hold small meetings for their activities?
And if one signed up for different activities that had meetings at the same time? Which one was one supposed to attend?
Jez Wilkins says he only joined tennis on Monday. So, no essential information given at that coffee morning. At least none that stopped him from taking part in the activity.
The welcome meetings are about general things that interest all. Holidays organised by Mark Warner in the Ocean Club sound more like boot-camp than a holiday.
And a crèche meeting? What for? Isn’t this kind of information given at the crèche itself to every guest who requested to know details about it?
Those who didn’t check in on Saturday couldn’t use crèche because of lack of appropriate knowledge?
7.3. The McCann's trip to the beach lapsus linguae
“DC Ferguson: …So during the week, you played tennis with Gerry about three times'
Carpenter: Ah ha.
DC Ferguson: On Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, it says here that you got on well, that he was of easy communication, was fun, he talked to you about golf which was his elected sport but wanted to improve his tennis during the week. On Sunday or Monday he sprained his ankle, but even like that he was able to play, and on Sunday morning he only played tennis with Kate, that you saw them both practising sport and they passed by you at the bar on the beach and that was Sunday or Monday around noon.”
Gerry and Kate only say they left the resort together on Tuesday after lunch on their famous trip to the beach. Not on Sunday nor on Monday. Carpenter says nothing about the kids being with them or about any buggy, double or single.
So what were the McCanns doing at the bar on the beach on Sunday or Monday around noon?
7.4. The tennis with Gerry lapsus linguae
But what matters is that Carpenter says he plays with the McCanns 3 times: Sunday. Monday and Tuesday.
Then later on in the interview he says he also played on Thursday:
“DC Ferguson: Do you remember if you saw them before the evening [of May 3]?
Carpenter: Humm... I think that we played tennis during the afternoon of Thursday.
DC Ferguson: Yes.
Carpenter: I'm not sure of which, I think it was on Thursday that there were four individuals with whom we used to have tennis lessons together, and I think that I mentioned that in my statement, I would say that it was on Thursday that we played tennis and I think that it was about that we talked in the Tapas bar area.
DC Ferguson: OK, if you played tennis with Gerry, do you have any idea at what time it was?
Carpenter: Humm... from two to four or from two until any hour in the afternoon, I think it coincided with leaving the kids in the crèche and picking them up.”
Why not just say that the only day he didn't play with Gerry was on Wednesday? After all, he played with him all other days.
What a fascinating memory Carpenter has.
7.5. The interactions with Edmonds lapsus linguae
“DC Ferguson: “We arrived at about seven because we had the children with us and I saw a man sitting at the table next to us with three children.
DC Ferguson: “He was going to take a plane on the next day to Switzerland, as the children's mother lived there, I had never met him before that night but, he ended up joining us for a coffee, he was a MW tourist.”
“DC Ferguson: And I imagine that your attention would have been turned to your family and (inaudible).
Carpenter: Yes, because we obviously had our two with us and we were on this side of the table, the individual alone with the three small children was here and IC was playing with them, so we were more or less a group if you wish to call it that, of which they were part, I think that all the ten members were there, and then we talked one with the others here and on the other side of the table.”
What Carpenter says above is like one saying “I took my cat to the local kennel and he had lots of fun playing with those dogs”.
Boys aged 6, 7 and 8 do not play with girls. At that age, boys play with boys and girls play with girls and each find the other gender unworthy of any sort of attention. That simple.
And much less with a 3 and half yr old one. Boys play with boys and in a foreign country, on their own, we’re certain the 3 Edmond boys played together and not with Carpenter’s daughter.
About Edmonds and his possible early departure from Praia da Luz we have challenged readers both in the blog and on Facebook to present any other evidence, besides Carpenter's words, that it happened.
We have yet to receive a single input to that effect.
About Philip Edmonds we will do a separate post. But as far as we know, Carpenter is the only source stating that Edmonds left earlier. He's not exactly the most reliable of sources. But he is a source who hasn't been denied. Because he's telling the truth or because to deny him would mean having to explain the absurdity of his claim?
7.6. The crossing of the street lapsus linguae
When describing crossing Rua Dr Francisco Gentil Martins:
“DC Ferguson: “When I crossed the road outside of the reception I remember there were cars parked, I remember having taken some time checking if I could cross the road because there were cars parked to my left and I was carrying IC in my arms. They were approximately six metres away from me and I calculate some (inaudible) metres from the back of Gerry's apartment, I don’t remember anything about these cars, it’s normal for cars to be parked at that place and in the morning no longer there.”
DC Ferguson: My wife Carolyn mentioned to me on the following day that she vaguely remembered having heard someone calling "Madeleine, Madeleine", this after we had crossed the road in the exterior of MW reception and before entering our home. She does not remember from where the sound came or whether it was in a despairing tone, not paying more attention and only remembered the following day when we learned of Madeleine's disappearance
Carpenter: …the actual leaving of the restaurant, the way towards home, looking to my left to check that the road was clear and I didn't hear anything, humm.... Carolyn vaguely remembers hearing "Madeleine, Madeleine" and that was all until the next morning when I watched on TV.”
This is so ridiculous that it is quite amusing to debunk.
Carpenter forgets 2 things. First, that it’s 21:30 and that any car travels at that hour with their headlights on, so if any car was moving on that street at that time it would have been seen with sufficient anticipation and safety.
The second is that he’s British. A Brit when crossing a street instinctively looks right, never left. Because in UK that’s from where the immediate traffic is coming from. In Portugal one looks left, then right and then left again to cross the street. In the UK one looks right, then left and then right again.
To say he looked left is to go again instinct ingrained a whole lifetime. It doesn’t happen.
What Carpenter is trying to get across is that at 21:30 there’s no one on the street. Gerry, Jane, Jez and Bundleman have left the stage.
Carolyn’s Carpenter hearing “Madeleine, Madeleine” is just to add dramatic effects. No reasonable person on hearing that, wouldn’t go immediately to the police on hearing the news the next day.
7.7. The 4th (or 5th) man with little girl in arms lapsus linguae
But what really, really stands out in the crossing the street episode, is that we have ANOTHER man with a 3 and half yr old girl in his arms in Luz!!!
How many are there now? We have SY's Créche Dad, we have Smithman, we have the Portuguese on cellphone seen by some British woman (who was the reason for SY digging up West of Luz in June) and we now have Carpenter.
That’s 4. If we add Bundleman, there’s 5. All between 21:15 and 22:00. Amazing!
7.8. Carpenter the multi-tasker in a very, very small world lapsus linguae
Then Carpenter does a full circle by bringing up 2 characters from Jez Wilkins statement, Curtis and his girlfriend:
“DC Ferguson: And then the Mark Warner staff, obviously it was before your return while you were still investigating, the staff had photos of Madeleine that you handed to an individual called Curtis and his girlfriend for them to distribute.
Carpenter: Ah ah, yes.”
Carpenter the translator-pusher, the searcher, the investigator and now the photo distributor. Very, very active guest we would say.
7.9. The “who-you-gonna-call” lapsus linguae
When he returns home and when on May 14, and decides to intervene in the process, who does he call?
“DC Ferguson: Certainly you followed the development of the events on TV.
DC Ferguson: Humm... then you say that on the 17th May you sent an email to Sky News about the description of an individual with about fifty of age, humm.... on the May 14 you caught the end of a report on the news which mentioned that Robert Murat had been referenced as a suspect.
Carpenter: Yes (inaudible) I spoke to the Sky reporter, I think Ian Woods, humm...did I put that there?
DC Ferguson: Its here, yes.”
Carpenter: Ah yes, yes and afterwards, humm...with Murat, well... I just caught a glimpse of him on TV, it was more my wife who phoned Philomena afterwards who then suggested that we contact the police support service.”
Now, from where does Philomena McCann’s phone number appear?
7.10. The missing v abducted or is it the other way around lapsus linguae
Then we have Carpenter's outrage at the fact that people are treating Maddie as a missing girl instead of an abducted one:
“DC Ferguson: On Saturday morning, or on May 5 you spoke to a BBC TV reporter.
DC Ferguson: You told them that you thought that some of the reporters were being unfair and incorrect because they were treating the situation as that of a missing child and not of a child who had been abducted.”
But, wasn’t he one of the first to assume she was only missing when he says “afterwards we walked to the beach in the attempt to find the scent, whether she had strayed alone or had fallen into the sea”.
If he really believed she was abducted, wouldn’t he have said instead whether the abductor had abandoned her at the beach or thrown her into the sea? Did he also NOT buy the abduction?
7.11. The Carpenter family dinner lapsus linguae
One question must be asked: why didn't the Carpenters, on Thursday, May 3, use the same MW's night childcare services they used in the other nights?
Carpenter doesn't refer to any special event to celebrate that night. He doesn't give any reason for this change of routine.
No reason given for wanting to spend 2.5 hours in the Tapas having dinner with a baby and a toddler after on all other possible nights the family uses MW's available night childcare services.
But by coincidence, on the night Maddie vanishes, the Carpenter family decides, for no apparent reason, to spend, and we really mean spend time (between 19:00 and 21:30) and have dinner together.
And without a buggy, at least for the toddler as Carpenter says he carries her. The MW's double buggy Kate says she used for the family beach trip would have come in handy for this family wouldn't? Or were those only supplied to the McCanns?
But looking at the Tapas reservation sheet for that night, there are a couple of things that don't add up with the Carpenters:
Shouldn't the reservation be for “2 + 2” instead of the “2” that is there?
Shouldn't there be a “high chair” mentioned for the baby?
He doesn't speak of any high chair, or where the baby or their daughter IC and what they did during the 2.5 hours, in his colourful and detailed descriptions of the Tapas bar on the night of May 3. We're simply not buying the story about a 3 and half yr girl playing with 3 boys aged 6 to 8, and much less for that long.
Anyway, two adults, a baby and a toddler having a wholesome family time of fun for 150 minutes.
A small baby would not be able to sit in a high chair and certainly not for 2.5 hours and the 3 year old must have been stir crazy sitting at a table for that amount of time which shows it’s not realistic.
No, not from readers to us. Those are welcomed in the comments.
Questions from us to readers. To a very specific group of readers: our detractors.
They ask us: why would so many people lie for a group of people they didn't know from anywhere?
We return that question to them, so please consider it our question #1.
On our two previous posts “Bladderman” and “Planting a spy” we have put questions #2 and #3:
#2 - Why would 2 members of a group of 9, Gerry McCann and Jane Tanner lie for a person, Jez Wilkins, who Gerry had only supposedly met that week playing tennis and who Jane supposedly had never seen before?
#3 - Why would an ex-pat, Robert Murat, and a guest, Stephen Carpenter, who supposedly have never met each other have synchronised statements describing something that evidently didn’t happen?
At the end of the current lengthy 3-part post we ask 2 more questions:
#4 - Why would a guest, Stephen Carpenter, lie to protect other guests, Raj Balu and Neil Berry?
#5 - Why would a guest, Stephen Carpenter, lie to make an employee of the Ocean Club, Mário Marreiros, a suspect?