Saturday, 14 August 2010


Strange things happen when this ALLEGED witness statement appears. Here in Spain, a newspaper for ex-pats was Carter Rucked because it dared to print information from the released PJ files. 

A simple phone call and I was told it was out of their hands they had been gagged and had to remove the offending article. The article in question was part of the ALLEGED events that were witnessed by Dr.Katherine Gaspar. 

This is a little like closing the barn door when the horse has bolted. The newspapers had already been delivered and the information was out there, nevertheless it was removed from online. A petition also having reached 5,000 signatures, was quickly closed when someone gave their reason for the case being re-opened, they mentioned the Gaspar statement. 

Several books have now been written about the McCann affair and there is suggestion of the parents involvement in many, if not all, from the authors. The one subject the books do not touch on however, is the Gaspar statement, only Dr.Amaral mentions it in his book as part of the investigation. 

This witness statement has been kept back at all costs from the British public by the McCanns, through their lawyers. 

The cadaver dogs and their findings do not seem to phase the Mccanns , they are unreliable says Gerry AND even though the dogs only picked up on ALL things McCann, no one dare question Gerry on this observation, in fact there does not seem to be one British reporter observant enough to even notice.

Dr.Amaral told his side of the story in his book ‘The Truth of The Lie’ an excellent title, as the whole affair is based on a lie. Dr.Amaral and HIS observations from years of experience led him to suspect the McCanns, BUT not just him , his TEAM... the Mccanns have singled him out as their target but it was an INVESTIGATION that brought them to this conclusion. 

The McCanns have NOT been cleared as they like to tell us, their arguido status has been lifted, something quite different. The McCanns have also made it clear, they are NOT to be questioned. There is ONLY one version of events and that is theirs. 

So, to the public, ALL information is out there and the McCanns are innocent of any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter. Everything is known? Well, not quite , the statement from Dr.Katherine Gaspar has been kept from the British public. 

The allegation Katherine makes, is a serious one and I wonder why Gerry and David Payne have not taken action against her if untrue.. 

This information is being kept hidden away, like a dirty secret and it does, when reading ,appear perverse and very,very sordid. 

If British reporters had done, what they are paid to do,’ expose the truth,’ this statement would and should have been in the press. I think damage control would have been impossible, even for Clarence would have been a ticking time bomb, what would the public reaction have been or would be even today on reading this? shock and horror and yes thoughts of the possibility Madeleine may have been an abused child , or worse. Leicestershire Constabulary held this information back from the Portuguese Investigation for SIX months. WHY? Reasons known only unto themselves. 

Utterly remarkable that two NHS Doctors have managed to make an entire Police force look either very stupid, or very corrupt. As for the Gaspar statement, time has gone by and the longer time passes the more important this statement appears OR does it? it may of course mean nothing at all, a scorned woman, jealous because the McCanns found the Paynes more fun. 

Even if this should be the case, it was not for Leicester Police to decide on what information should be forwarded and what should be held back. . It was for PJ to decide and investigate, the colonial days are over but someone forgot to tell the McCanns. 

Katherines husband did not seem concerned, nor does he mention his wife asking him to watch the children at bath time if David Payne was bathing them. Although Katherines husband does agree, the suggestions made by David Payne , were in poor taste. If Katherine was so concerned, why did she not leave with her children?, ,instead she continued to allow David to bathe them even with these thoughts running through her head, thoughts of paedophilia. 

This whole affair is very strange and there is something not quite right with the Gaspar statement. AND yet it must be important because the Mccanns make sure their lawyers sue anyone who dares mention it. 

I cannot help but wonder if Dr.Amaral had not placed this statement in his book, would the McCanns be so intent on destroying him? 

Final revised translation. 
Judiciary Police National Directorate 

Age: +18 Date of Birth: Address: Postal Code: Profession: Telephone no.: 
Date of Statement: 16/05/2007 
Number of Pages: 8 

I make this statement in relation to the MCCANN family who are currently in Portugal. 

The MCCANN family is composed of Gerry MCCANN, his wife, Kate MCCANN and their three children, Madeleine, 4 years old, and Sean and Amelie, who are twins, aged two. 

As has been widely covered by the news, Madeleine is not with her family presently, and has been missing for the last two weeks. 

I will begin by explaining that I am married to Savio Gaspar and that we have two daughters, E., who is almost 3 and I. who is now one year old. I have been married to Savio for 11 years. 

I am a General Practitioner like my husband. I met my husband when we were (page 1) working together in Exeter, about 14 years ago. 

To explain the way in which we met the MCCANN family, I would like to state that my husband knows Kate, as they both attended Dundee University between 1987 and 1992. 

At that time, Kate?s name was Kate HEALY. I met Kate and Gerry on the occasion of their wedding, around 1998, in Liverpool. Both Savio and I went to the wedding because as Savio was an old friend of Kate?s, we were both invited to the event. 

As far as I know, Savio did not know Gerry before the abovementioned wedding. From that time onwards, we met as friends about three times a year and we would spent weekends away together. 

I would say that we became intimate friends of Gerry and Kate. I remember that in 2002 or 2003, Savio and I spent a weekend with Gerry and Kate in Devon. 

We would stay in contact with each other by telephone. In 2002/2003 Savio and I were living in Birmingham and the MCCANNS in Leicester. 

In September of 2005, Savio, I and E., who at the time was about 1 and a half years old, went to spend our holidays abroad, in Majorca. 

We went (page 2) on holiday with Kate, Gerry, and Madeleine, who would have been around 2 and a half years old and with the twins, Sean and Amelie, who were just months old. 

I remember that I was pregnant with I. During those holidays there were also friends of Gerry and Kate with us. 

There was a couple, whose names were Dave and Fiona, and whose surname was PAYNE, I believe. I think that they were married and had one daughter aged about 1, named L. I remember that during those holidays that Fiona was pregnant. 

There was another couple, whose names were Tara and Stuart, but whose surname I cannot remember who were also on holiday with us. They had two boys, aged 1 and 3, whose names I do not remember. 

I did not know these two families before we went on holidays together. 

From memory, I think that it was Dave who organised these holidays and we all stayed together in a big house when we were in Majorca. 

We spend a week on holidays, however, the MCCANN family and the PAYNE family stayed for two weeks. 

I think that Tara and Stuart, and their two children, also stayed for just one week. 

Two or three days had gone by, we were all staying in Majorca where, in general terms, we had fun (Page 3) with our children. 

Possibly, around the fourth or perhaps the fifth day abroad, I remember an incident that stayed recorded in my head. I say this in this way, because I have thought numerous times about the incident that I am about to describe since that date. 

One night, when we were on holiday, the adults, in other words, the couples that I mentioned were on a patio outside the house where we were staying. We had been eating and drinking. I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. 

I don?t remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like ?she?, referring to Madeleine, ?would do this?. When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. 

This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing. I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around (page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?. 

There was a nervous silence noted in the conversations of all the others and immediately afterwards everyone began talking again. 

I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn?t something that should be done or said. 

Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. 

I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, L., though I?m not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that L., would behave or would do it.  I believe that he did this later on, during the holidays, but I cannot be sure. 

The only time, besides this one, that I was with Dave and Fiona was several weeks after the holidays, when Savio and I met up with Gerry, Kate, Dave and Fiona at a restaurant in Leicester. 

I am absolutely certain that he said what he said and that he made the gestures I referred to, but that could have occurred in the restaurant in Leicester, even though (page five) I believe that it was later on, in Majorca. 

When I heard Dave saying and doing this a second time, I took it more seriously. I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different way from me or from the others. 

I imagined that maybe he had visited Internet sites related to small children. In short, I thought that he might be interested in child pornography on the internet. 

During our holidays, I was more attentive at the bath times after hearing Dave saying that. 

During our holidays in Majorca, it was the fathers who took care of the children baths. I had the tendency to walk close to the bathroom, if it was Dave bathing the children. 

I remember telling Savio to took care to be there, in case it was Dave helping to bathe the children and, in particular, my daughter E. I was very clear about this, as having heard him say that had disturbed me, and I did not trust him to give bath to E. alone. 

When I heard Dave say that a second time, it reinforced what I already thought in relation to his thoughts about girls. 

During our stay in Majorca, Dave and his wife, Fiona, accompanied by their daughter L., took Madeleine (page 6) with them to spend the day, in order to give Kate and Gerry a bit of rest and time to be with the twins. 

When I say this, it is not that I was worried about Madeleine?s safety, since she was also with Fiona and L., and also with Dave, as far as I know. 

As I have already mentioned, I was only with Dave and Fiona on one occasion, after Majorca, and I have not spoken to them since then. 

In the last two years, we have met, as a family, with the MCCANN, every now and then. This mainly happens on the children?s birthdays, a time when we meet up. The first time I heard of the terrible news about Madeleine?s disappearance through the radio, my thoughts went immediately to Dave. 

I asked Savio if Dave was also on holidays with the MCCANN in Portugal but he did not know. I watched the TV thoroughly, and seeing the news coverage, I noticed that Dave was there, because I saw him, in the background, on the television images during the first days after Madeleine?s disappearance. 

Based upon that, I believed that he was on holidays with the MCCANN in Portugal. 

Today, Wednesday, 16th of May of 2007, at 17:40, I gave DC Brewer an A4 page containing 2 photographic images. 

I am going to refer to these images as (Ref KZG/1) (element of proof) that may (page seven) be presented as means of proof, if necessary. These photographs were taken during the holidays in Majorca. In the photographs, Dave is wearing a white T-shirt and the woman in the photograph corresponds to his wife Fiona. 

The man who is holding the glass of wine in the photograph is Stuart. These photographs were taken while we were in Majorca. 

Translation [PJ] done by C.R.F.E. 

Note: Retroversion from the Portuguese translation Attached to this statement was a small report from DC Mike Marshall. 

With what would appear some sort of AMNESIA from David and Fiona Payne. 

To: Ricard Paiva 
From: DC 1756 Mike MARSHALL 
Ref: David Payne 
Date: October 24, 2007 
Leicester Police Constabulary 


As requested, appended are the statements of Arul and Katherina Gaspar. 

I read with curiosity the written statements given by David Payne but was not able to extricate any other information besides what is already known. 

He declares that he saw Madeleine, for the last time, at 17H00 on 3/5/07 in the McCann apartment. 

Also present there were Kate and Gerry. 

He did not indicate the motive for being there or what he was doing. 

He also cannot indicate how long he stayed. 

When asked with whom he was on the afternoon of May 3rd, he declares that this information was already offered to the police and cannot remember if anyone else was there. 

He does not remember what he was wearing that afternoon. 

 He took part in the searches, having carried out most of them alone. He was at times accompanied by Matthew Oldfield. 

He did not partake in the searches realized on the 4th of May, because, on this day, he spent to majority of time in the police headquarters.

For many questions, he does not give a complete response, affirming simply that he has already given this information to the Portuguese police in his declarations. 

I examined once again the declarations of Fiona Payne. 

In her depositions, she states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. 

She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to.

Her responses to the questions are vague. She continued to respond to questions with ?they conform with my earlier deposition? or some similar statement. 

TEXTUSA as you know is now on holiday and this information will be here for you to ponder and digest. 

If you wish, please leave a comment but they will not be published until Textusas return. 

Happy Holidays.


  1. Why do I get this feeling that every-time authors like yourself,Textusa and other sites come up with what should be 'the incriminating evidence' it seems to get squashed by Carter-Ruck or discredited by the McCanns and they supply some other quite extraordinary reason for the evidence, or change their statements to fit.

    This can't go on surely - this evidence from Katherine Gasper cannot be altered just because she didn't stop DP. Is she the social services - no - she just did what she thought would be appropriate without causing any animosity - though if I were honest I would be unable to stop myself blurting out what I thought there and then. But other people are more reserved so its possible she felt she couldn't address this issue immediately and then let it drop having taken appropriate precautions.

    It is very odd though I must agree - I can see why the McCanns wouldn't want any credibility to be given to a statement like this. It would be difficult to stop the public debate from gushing forth.

    I can't wait myself - mine eyes have been opened just recently and I just wish someone, somewhere would break and stand up and be counted.


  2. Dogs don't talk, Gaspars do.

    I think McCanns case are reaching a red line, if their friends do not jump off the train now, they will be caught in something really bad with huge collateral damages.

    New clues are emerging... ai ai ai

  3. The statement, in the letter from DC Mike Marshall, he clearly says DP said he last saw M at 1700hrs with both K and G in the apartment contradicts what he has been saying since about being asked by G to visit K in the apartment.

  4. Why did the Gaspar's attend a birthday party with the McCanns, 2 months before M went missing? I would never have had anything to do with them again after hearing those comments. Are the statements a warning to both GM and Payne to stick to the "Pact" which others had established in order to protect their identities and invovement? Gerry may have called in favours, but they were not given for free.

  5. Iron,

    First, my thanks for taking care of our blog so well. Stats suggest that I should retire... LOLOL

    About this, my friend, think what was negotiated, and waht was agreed at the end of those negotiations.

    We've seen that DP is completely out-of-bounds. They are being paid to live a lushfull, celebrity life, haven't lost their home or, at least Gerry, their jobs, kept their children. The price? Take the blam for being such a stupid neglectful self-centered parents.

    But take the blame alone. Leave the rest out of it. And if you watch carefully, anytime anyone steps out of this agreed script, they must be silenced.


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