1. Introduction
The other side was again stunned.
2017 is certainly NOT their year. We’re still in the 3rd month and they already have their third extremely unpleasant surprise.
The first surprise was the content of the acórdão of the Portuguese Supreme Justice Court.
The decision in January of not giving reason to the McCanns was not a surprise to the other side but having the reality that the McCanns were never cleared stated in black and white in an official judicial document certainly was.
The second surprise was the government saying they had a key-witness who justified the government further funding Operation Grange with £85,000.
It was not a surprise for the other side this further funding of Grange as it was their desire but having the vagueness of the European human trafficking gang discarded completely from one minute to the next certainly was.
And now they got their third 2017 extremely unpleasant surprise.
2. Not a surprise
The decision of the Supreme Justice Court rejecting the complaint was certainly no surprise to the other side or to anyone.
It was a shameful document.
In terms of form, it had with an extra-large font, not to say arrogantly childish, and with exaggerated spaces between lines and paragraphs:
A museum wall would be the right place to put such a work of art, if one considers art as something that perpetuates itself by the shock it causes, and these 9 pages fulfil that
criteria.
Another reason for it to be framed is its content. Having it up on wall all could see and learn
what not to do when arguing legal matters.
If a student, wanting to pass a test s/he had failed in a big way, desperately needing to pass, would submit in writing something like “I don’t care what if I ignored all you taught in class nor if I disregarded completely what the text book says, because I say I want to pass, I shall pass, so you immediately go back and change my grade and pass me, you incompetent idiot!”, would it cross anyone’s mind that it would convince the teacher to alter anything?
That's what this complaint basically is: a student, the McCanns, rudely telling off the teacher, the Supreme Justice Court, saying it doesn’t know left from right about what it is supposed to be the highest authority on, and so should humiliate itself and change a sentence just because it’s convenient for the complainants.
It even ties itself up in a knot. It says “... the invalidation of grounds invoked by the Public Ministry in the archival dispatch, pronounced under the provisions of the nº1 of the artº 277º of the CPP, can only be grounded in new facts or means of proof unknown [ignorado] by the Public Ministry at the time of the inquiry and, because of that, could not be, then, presented and produced, so as to be appreciated and valued in the decision”
So, according to the complainants “new facts and means of proof” can arise that when “appreciated and valued” can give grounds to invalidate the archiving dispatch. Please note the bold and underlining are not ours but just transcribed from the original document (pg 7).
Which means the complainants clearly recognise that the archiving dispatch can change and unless they wished to do jurisprudence by inventing a new legal term of “innocent-for-now” they emptied out their own argument with the argument.
Lastly, a paper all-round so weak that she who gave her face to the McCann legal team, Isabel Duarte chose not to put her name to it as it was her associate Ricardo Afonso, the lawyer who filled in for her in the Lisbon trial on the day she was unable to attend, who signs the document:
If a student, wanting to pass a test s/he had failed in a big way, desperately needing to pass, would submit in writing something like “I don’t care what if I ignored all you taught in class nor if I disregarded completely what the text book says, because I say I want to pass, I shall pass, so you immediately go back and change my grade and pass me, you incompetent idiot!”, would it cross anyone’s mind that it would convince the teacher to alter anything?
That's what this complaint basically is: a student, the McCanns, rudely telling off the teacher, the Supreme Justice Court, saying it doesn’t know left from right about what it is supposed to be the highest authority on, and so should humiliate itself and change a sentence just because it’s convenient for the complainants.
It even ties itself up in a knot. It says “... the invalidation of grounds invoked by the Public Ministry in the archival dispatch, pronounced under the provisions of the nº1 of the artº 277º of the CPP, can only be grounded in new facts or means of proof unknown [ignorado] by the Public Ministry at the time of the inquiry and, because of that, could not be, then, presented and produced, so as to be appreciated and valued in the decision”
So, according to the complainants “new facts and means of proof” can arise that when “appreciated and valued” can give grounds to invalidate the archiving dispatch. Please note the bold and underlining are not ours but just transcribed from the original document (pg 7).
Which means the complainants clearly recognise that the archiving dispatch can change and unless they wished to do jurisprudence by inventing a new legal term of “innocent-for-now” they emptied out their own argument with the argument.
Lastly, a paper all-round so weak that she who gave her face to the McCann legal team, Isabel Duarte chose not to put her name to it as it was her associate Ricardo Afonso, the lawyer who filled in for her in the Lisbon trial on the day she was unable to attend, who signs the document:
Joana Morais, has done a really good job in debunking this complaint in her blog.
So it was as near to impossible as anything can be that this document would receive anything but rejection from the Portuguese Supreme Justice Court.
We said so right from the minute we heard the news of it, as our post “The complaint” shows.
So, rejection came as absolutely no surprise for the other side.
So it was as near to impossible as anything can be that this document would receive anything but rejection from the Portuguese Supreme Justice Court.
We said so right from the minute we heard the news of it, as our post “The complaint” shows.
So, rejection came as absolutely no surprise for the other side.
3. The surprise
To understand the surprise, one has to read the following from Joana Morais:
“It should be noted that a request for the annulment of a Supreme Court of Justice ruling is exceptional, rare. And that this request has a suspensory effect. Being suspensive, means that all the consequences of the Supreme Court's ruling are suspended, that is, there is no final and unappealable decision, and therefore, the decision is not definitive and can not be fulfilled, meaning, yes, that Gonçalo Amaral will have to wait for the decision of the Supreme Court on the request for annulment.
Gonçalo Amaral was notified of the request for the annulment of the Supreme Court´s ruling. As there is always the right to adversarial proceedings, Gonçalo Amaral can respond, saying that the ruling of the Supreme Court of Justice does not warrant any rectification or criticism. Then all parties have to await for the ruling of the Supreme Court's conference.
The totality of the judges of the civil section is the conference, the request will be assessed by all judges of the civil section of the Supreme Court of Justice, including those who have deliberated on the judgement called into question. The mechanism should be similar to the distribution of the appeals to the Supreme Court of Justice.
As for the forecast date of the decision, in the Supreme Court of Justice the deadlines are extended. The judges will first submit the draft judgement, then the conference of judges will gather in order to assess the draft, then they will see if there are more votes in favour of or against, then it will be decided what the ruling is, after the judge rapporteur will write the final wording of the judgement according to what was decided by the conference, then the conference will reconvene for the final vote of the decision and for the presentation of the defeated votes, if there are any.”
By reading the above, another objective for the complaint becomes clear: not only did it want to prolong things beyond the decision to further funding of Grange but it was also the intention to prolong it further than April.
When we said the following in our post “The Complaint”, it was just a hunch:
“Only problem for the other side, is that this is just a complaint, not an appeal.
It does not require any contradictory from the opposing side’s legal team as the opposing side is the Supreme Justice Court, the decider.
It does not involve a collective of judges to decide, it’s up to the Court President.
The complaint entered the court, has been given to its President for decision which, once made, will be communicated to the complainer.
The only thing we are see delaying this decision in any way is the time the court will take to come up with the appropriate wording – which we hope will be followed by action – to dissuade other lawyers in other cases to not follow this example so highly denigrating and insulting to the court.
Not being an appeal, there is much less to be decided, involving less people, so naturally will take significantly less that if it were one.
We think that a few months is an exaggerated hope on the other side’s part.”
Joana Morais proved us wrong and the table from which we got to know the decision, shows that there was indeed a conference of judges (Judges Roque Nogueira, Alexandre Reis and Pedro Lima Gonçalves) to decide on the complaint.
So Tracey Kandhola had some reason to say “a family friend added: “It’s been dragging on for nearly nine years and they’re not giving up for the sake of a few more months.”” in the Mirror article published Feb 19 2017 21:25 and updated that day at 22:18: ““Madeleine McCann's parents say they will keep fighting libel battle with ex-cop and bring their daughter home”.
They really were betting on it taking months.
If one takes into account that the appeal from Mr Amaral’s legal team entered the court in June last year and was only decided at the end of this January, it would seem reasonable, knowing what procedures it would entail, to expect the decision in October/November, which would mean forcing the government into another further funding of Grange, this time for the second semester of the 2017/2018 fiscal year.
So the very unpleasant surprise for the other side was not the decision but how quickly it was made.
Joana Morais, quoted by Natasha Donn in the article published March 21, “McCann’s “frivolity” complaint rejected. Gonçalo Amaral’s ‘libel win’ confirmed for 3rd time” explains why this happened:
“As blogwriter Joana Morais has commented, Roque Nogueira’s decision came “sooner than we expected” and was “no doubt due to the weaknesses of the reasoning presented in the request for annulment of the Supreme Court’s ruling”.”
Second big mistake made by the McCann legal team. The first was forcing – it was their initiative – the Supreme Justice Court to put in black and white the fact the McCanns were never cleared, and now submitting a document so weak that it took, in terms of Portuguese legal times, a record time for the court to decide to reject it.
And unless the McCanns find a legal loophole that allows them to complain to the manager of the court’s cafeteria, it’s the end of the line for the McCanns.
It came sooner than expected.
This implies the obvious and that is there are no more excuses for the government not to act.
4. The British Press and the complaint
One must of course, remind readers how the British press reported the news that the McCanns had filed the complaint:
#1. The Daily Mail: “Madeleine McCann's parents 'plan to fight Portuguese court ruling that they haven't been cleared of involvement in their daughter's disappearance' “ by Gerard Couzens, published Feb 18 2017 09:40nd updated that day at 10:34.
#2. The Mirror: “Kate and Gerry McCann lodge complaint after court ruled couple were 'not formally in the clear' over Madeleine’s disappearance”, by Gerard Couzens and Anthony Bond, published Feb 18 14:19 and updated that day at 14:23.
#3. The Mirror: “McCanns launch new court battle against cop's claims they faked Maddie abduction - amid fears his case could leave search fund broke”, by Alan Selby, published Feb 18 2017 updated on Feb 19 2017 00:32.
To understand the surprise, one has to read the following from Joana Morais:
“It should be noted that a request for the annulment of a Supreme Court of Justice ruling is exceptional, rare. And that this request has a suspensory effect. Being suspensive, means that all the consequences of the Supreme Court's ruling are suspended, that is, there is no final and unappealable decision, and therefore, the decision is not definitive and can not be fulfilled, meaning, yes, that Gonçalo Amaral will have to wait for the decision of the Supreme Court on the request for annulment.
Gonçalo Amaral was notified of the request for the annulment of the Supreme Court´s ruling. As there is always the right to adversarial proceedings, Gonçalo Amaral can respond, saying that the ruling of the Supreme Court of Justice does not warrant any rectification or criticism. Then all parties have to await for the ruling of the Supreme Court's conference.
The totality of the judges of the civil section is the conference, the request will be assessed by all judges of the civil section of the Supreme Court of Justice, including those who have deliberated on the judgement called into question. The mechanism should be similar to the distribution of the appeals to the Supreme Court of Justice.
As for the forecast date of the decision, in the Supreme Court of Justice the deadlines are extended. The judges will first submit the draft judgement, then the conference of judges will gather in order to assess the draft, then they will see if there are more votes in favour of or against, then it will be decided what the ruling is, after the judge rapporteur will write the final wording of the judgement according to what was decided by the conference, then the conference will reconvene for the final vote of the decision and for the presentation of the defeated votes, if there are any.”
By reading the above, another objective for the complaint becomes clear: not only did it want to prolong things beyond the decision to further funding of Grange but it was also the intention to prolong it further than April.
When we said the following in our post “The Complaint”, it was just a hunch:
“Only problem for the other side, is that this is just a complaint, not an appeal.
It does not require any contradictory from the opposing side’s legal team as the opposing side is the Supreme Justice Court, the decider.
It does not involve a collective of judges to decide, it’s up to the Court President.
The complaint entered the court, has been given to its President for decision which, once made, will be communicated to the complainer.
The only thing we are see delaying this decision in any way is the time the court will take to come up with the appropriate wording – which we hope will be followed by action – to dissuade other lawyers in other cases to not follow this example so highly denigrating and insulting to the court.
Not being an appeal, there is much less to be decided, involving less people, so naturally will take significantly less that if it were one.
We think that a few months is an exaggerated hope on the other side’s part.”
Joana Morais proved us wrong and the table from which we got to know the decision, shows that there was indeed a conference of judges (Judges Roque Nogueira, Alexandre Reis and Pedro Lima Gonçalves) to decide on the complaint.
So Tracey Kandhola had some reason to say “a family friend added: “It’s been dragging on for nearly nine years and they’re not giving up for the sake of a few more months.”” in the Mirror article published Feb 19 2017 21:25 and updated that day at 22:18: ““Madeleine McCann's parents say they will keep fighting libel battle with ex-cop and bring their daughter home”.
They really were betting on it taking months.
If one takes into account that the appeal from Mr Amaral’s legal team entered the court in June last year and was only decided at the end of this January, it would seem reasonable, knowing what procedures it would entail, to expect the decision in October/November, which would mean forcing the government into another further funding of Grange, this time for the second semester of the 2017/2018 fiscal year.
So the very unpleasant surprise for the other side was not the decision but how quickly it was made.
Joana Morais, quoted by Natasha Donn in the article published March 21, “McCann’s “frivolity” complaint rejected. Gonçalo Amaral’s ‘libel win’ confirmed for 3rd time” explains why this happened:
“As blogwriter Joana Morais has commented, Roque Nogueira’s decision came “sooner than we expected” and was “no doubt due to the weaknesses of the reasoning presented in the request for annulment of the Supreme Court’s ruling”.”
Second big mistake made by the McCann legal team. The first was forcing – it was their initiative – the Supreme Justice Court to put in black and white the fact the McCanns were never cleared, and now submitting a document so weak that it took, in terms of Portuguese legal times, a record time for the court to decide to reject it.
And unless the McCanns find a legal loophole that allows them to complain to the manager of the court’s cafeteria, it’s the end of the line for the McCanns.
It came sooner than expected.
This implies the obvious and that is there are no more excuses for the government not to act.
4. The British Press and the complaint
One must of course, remind readers how the British press reported the news that the McCanns had filed the complaint:
#1. The Daily Mail: “Madeleine McCann's parents 'plan to fight Portuguese court ruling that they haven't been cleared of involvement in their daughter's disappearance' “ by Gerard Couzens, published Feb 18 2017 09:40nd updated that day at 10:34.
#2. The Mirror: “Kate and Gerry McCann lodge complaint after court ruled couple were 'not formally in the clear' over Madeleine’s disappearance”, by Gerard Couzens and Anthony Bond, published Feb 18 14:19 and updated that day at 14:23.
#3. The Mirror: “McCanns launch new court battle against cop's claims they faked Maddie abduction - amid fears his case could leave search fund broke”, by Alan Selby, published Feb 18 2017 updated on Feb 19 2017 00:32.
#4. The Metro: “New legal battle for McCanns against claims they faked Madeleine’s abduction”, by Charles White Sunday, published Feb 19 2017 12:22.
#5. The Liverpool Echo: “Madeleine McCann’s parents fighting to overturn court ruling over disappearance” by Lorna Hughes, published Feb 19 2017 16:01.
#6. The Independent: “Madeleine McCann's parents launch fresh legal battle over police claims they faked daughter's abduction” by Lucy Pasha-Robinson, published Feb 19, estimated around 18:40.
#7. The Mirror: “Madeleine McCann's parents say they will keep fighting libel battle with ex-cop and bring their daughter home” by Tracey Kandohla, published Feb 19 2017 21:25 and updated that day at 22:18.
#8. The Daily Mail: “Madeleine McCann's furious parents say judges' ruling that they have not been cleared of any involvement in the girl's disappearance is full of 'contradictions' as they launch legal fightback” by Gerard Couzens, published: Feb 21 2017 08:39 2017 and updated that day at 08:51.
#9. The Telegraph: “Madeleine McCann's parents attack Portuguese judges for acting 'frivolously' in ruling over ex-police chief” by Telegraph Reporters, published Feb 21 14:16.
This how same press has reported the McCann rejection by the Portuguese Supreme Justice Court:
#1 - The Sun: “MORE MADDIE AGONY , Madeleine McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry ‘lose third libel battle to silence cop who claimed they faked her kidnap’”, by Danny Collins, published March 22 2017 at 11:38, updated that day at 11:54.
#2 - The Daily Mail: “Madeleine McCann's parents lose third libel case to silence detective who claimed they faked their daughter's abduction”, by Gareth Davies, published Marc 22 12:58, and updated that day at 13:25.
#3 - The Mirror: “Madeleine McCann’s parents lose final appeal to silence cop who claims they faked abduction” by Martin Fricker and Tracey Kandohla, published Mar 22 2017 17:14, updated that day at 22:52.
#4 - The Express, “McCanns lose again in Maddie book row”, by unknown, published Mar 23 2017 00:01.
#5 - The Daily Star: “Fund set up to help find missing Madeleine McCann could be wiped out”, by Jerry Lawton, published March 23 2017
Some significant difference in quantity, relevance and length of articles as the majority of the above 4 are very short and to the point.
An interesting contrast when compared with those articles announcing enthusiastically what was going to be a tough, long and expensive new legal battle.
The reporting of the rejection when compared with the one done when announcing it it’s as if the British press took this as an own defeat.
To note that the Sun article ends with a “More to follow” and nothing has followed since.
Gerard Couzens, Alan Selby, Charles White Sunday, Lorna Hughes, Lucy Pasha-Robinson and the Telegraph Reporters, where are you now?
You reported that it was going to be, repeating ourselves, a tough, long and expensive legal battle. Now that it has come abruptly to an end a month later, you keep silent.
At least Tracey Kandhola (in co-authorship, must be pointed out) has come back with an article that even though refers to Mr Amaral as a ‘cop’ 3 times, it must be noted that he’s also mentioned there another five times as “Goncalo Amaral” (twice), “Mr Amaral”, “Ex-police chief” and “former police chief”.
As a sidenote, it’s become quite irritating for these articles to be published with updates when we don’t even see the first version ever published. We were paying attention, and we missed the Mirror article both at 17:14 and 22:52 last Wednesday.
5. Options for the UK government
So now that the McCanns have reached the end of the line, one has to ask the UK government when and how it intends to act.
Is it this?
If this is the choice, then we would say that £12 million is quite a lot to pay for alleged ignorance and we think the vast majority would agree with us.
We would ask what happened to the “compelling evidence” reported Sep 18, 2016, by the Express in article by James Murray and Caroline Wheeler “Madeline McCann: Fresh cash lifeline in search for missing child”, in which is said that government had funded Operation Grange for the second semester of the fiscal year 2016/2017, with an extra £100,000 which would keep it going until April 2017?
“But a fresh request, believed to be for a sum of around £100,000, was submitted to the Home Office as the deadline approached and has now been signed off.
A Whitehall source had indicated funding would be approved if “compelling evidence that justifies the use of additional taxpayers’ money” was provided by the team.
A spokesman for the Home Office said on Friday: “We have provided the Metropolitan Police with the funding required for Operation Grange to continue until at least the end of this financial year.”
And we would also ask if the bombshell witness reported by the Sunday Express in the article by Caroline Wheeler, published Mar 12 2017 “Madeleine Bombshell: Police net closes in on just one man who is key to the mystery”, didn’t say anything worthwhile investigating?
You know, the “solid live lead” who justified the government giving another £85,000 to Grange and which resulted in a debate on whether it was or wasn’t a waste of money.
As the saying goes, a laughing stock is not one who has cows with a good sense of humour.
Or is it this the choice?
If this is the choice, Australia is not exactly helping...
Nor is the public opinion helping.
Just a reminder, if you disconnect with public then it must expect that same public to not connect with you on other matters.
It would also disregard the fact that Mr Amaral’s book, so much publicised by the British media lately which will continue to be available for all to read, will confirm that it’s all just a tale if the choice is to tell one. Lest it having been forgotten, it does seem he’s coming out with a second book.
And of course, we will be here to pick on the details of the tale, keeping the Maddie case alive.
Also to be remembered is that no one can now say, legally or otherwise, that the McCanns were cleared by the Portuguese Justice System. They were NOT. The nation’s Supreme Justice Court has said that TWICE, and one of the times did it after being challenged about that exact subject by the McCanns.
Or will this be the choice?
This one we highly recommend it.
Which of the 3 is a decision that rests solely on the shoulders of the UK government.
6. Conclusion
Things couldn’t be simpler now.
It’s up to the British government to decide on what it is to do. Evidently, one can expect a fierce fight on the part of the other side.
In January they gave us the media fighting over each other to pay the McCanns to interview them for the 10th anniversary and the tears the Missing People Choir supposedly caused on Britain’s Got Talent.
Now, the best thing they could come up with is with some British woman claiming her child was almost the next Maddie, pulling a very unconvincing sympathy card on behalf of the McCanns.
The problem with firing successive volleys of artillery fire, which we have watched in the past 2 months – Gerry the NHS saviour, Gerry the lifesaver, Kate the Marathon sponsor, Piers Morgan as… Piers Morgan and the League of Minor celebrities – is that there’s only so much ammunition until it runs out.
The Sun’s Cyprus episode was just a wet firecracker. Signs the arsenal has emptied out?
We have had quite an enjoyable 2 months of bird-watching. See no reason not to continue.
Morning, agree totally it's up to the government to now decide what to do. I may not be popular for saying this but I do not expect to see the McCann's charged with anything. I've always felt the McCann's are not the ones pulling the strings, they are mere puppets in this, and agree with your comment previously about Clarence Mitchell being the face of the people who don't want to be seen. There is no way the true identity(ies) of who is really being protected is ever going to be revealed after all this time. The problem the government have now is whatever they tell us about what happened to Maddie, after all the money they have spent, is it has to serve to completely shut down the debate that is raging on about the McCanns. The public have more knowledge on this case than they have ever had. From that SUN article the other day, on FB there was over 500 comments, I could only see a handful that was saying leave them alone etc. The public have an appetite for this case and will not accept a half hearted version as in the Ben Needham case.
ReplyDeleteThe McCanns have 2 other children. They are bombarded with always the same 'more agony', 'not cleared', 'lost battle' etc. messages in the 'press'. I can imagine them being fully loyal to their parents' tale and behaviour in this matter. But ... I can't imagine that a government or people near to the so called high places (?), using the McCanns as puppets, at the same time throw these children to the lions, for the rest of their lives. Collateral damage? "Inhuman after all".
ReplyDeleteIt is now reputed that the children are now in private education, that in the UK doesn't come cheap. But it is heresay, but I'm somewhat inclind to believe it. The next question is how, with one parent working and could hardly afford the next mortgage payment ten years ago. Who knows. But you could speculate who is actually paying for this, nothing would surprise me, if it isn't the local education authority, as it would be deemed appropriate in the circumstances.
DeleteIt is strange how such a public couple, can lead such a private life. When did you actually see a new photo of the McCanns or them actually utter a word* The children are protected from the press.
* Since the Professor McCann saving the nhs £60m, the Football manager who's life he might have been involved in saving is nothing more than the usual second hand MSM hype.
You reap what you sow.
Agree, now is the time for the UK Government to be wise, and act with courage -to elevate it's reputation. It should try and realise that telling the truth will enable the whole matter to fade away more quickly and quietly - and with dignity.
ReplyDeleteTo continue the charade will ensure that the matter NEVER goes away.
I agree with you anonymous 10:04. This whole case confuses me when I read about evidence that other experts have looked at, I don't mean the hearsay evidence but facts of the case, the DNA, the dogs and the cadaver scent, an intelligent person can only draw one conclusion that Madeleine died in 5a but still the case confuses me as I'll read something else and my opinion will start going off in a different direction that possibly something more sinister may have happened, I hope this is not the case.
ReplyDeleteFrom the Mccanns home footage and photos before the holiday Madeleine looks like a happy well loved little girl, so whatever happened I can only conclude it was an accident.
What I can't understand is all the celebrities backing the official line and endorsing the abduction, these people will be intelligent people who will have done their own research like the general public how can they endorse a cover-up I'll never understand especially as most of them will have children of their own which then brings me back to thinking there is something more sinister going on.
The public who question this case are intelligent and know we are being lied to, the people want to know that this is being investigated properly and a whitewash by OG will never do.
P.S I love your blog and your well thought out reasoning.
Hi Textusa, Great post as always. Do you think there really is a ``person of interest`` or is this something just to delay the process (as they did not realise the result would be so swift?)
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 24 Mar 2017, 11:55:00,
DeletePrefer not to reply to your question, hope you understand.
Anonymous @ 10.59.
ReplyDelete‘Agree, now is the time for the UK Government to be wise, and act with courage -to elevate it's reputation.’
Think it’s too late to ‘elevate it’s reputation’.
As for where they go now, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
This farce has dragged on for so long, through so many governments and individuals, with so much money apparently wasted, where can they best go for damage limitation?
Theresa May, although she seemed to resist the original Cameron decision, has now been directly involved as Home Sec. and now PM for years, so how can she come out of any meaningful closure without a substantial amount of egg on her face, along with numerous friends and foes alike?
Doug D
Doug D,
DeleteQuestion is how long does the UK want to have egg on their face. That they will have a substantial amount, is a given but if it comes clean, pardon the pun, it can clean itself up and continue, and the issue, being appropriately closed will naturally fall into collective forgetfulness.
With the bonus that when remembered, it will be this government to be recollected as the one setting things straight.
If the farce continues, then even if it may be too late to elevate its reputation, it will never be too late to steep it even further. Without closure.
We disagree with you when you say "Theresa May, although she seemed to resist the original Cameron decision". We think she was a main contributor to it.
She requested the report from the CEOP (recognised by Jim Gamble) on Maddie that we think led up to Jim Gamble leaving the CEOP in October 2010.
That means said report was requested early 2010 or even 2009.
This, to us, means that Theresa May was an active part in the build-up to Operation Grange in 2011.
Thanks for your response. From memory, I thought May resisted the original review demands, but was then effectively overruled by Cameron, but I’ll have another look back between March 2010 and May 2011.
DeleteIn the meantime:
Theresa May became Home Secretary from 12th May 2010
13th May 2011:
Former home secretary Alan Johnson commissioned a scoping exercise by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) centre to look at the feasibility of carrying out a review of the case.
This was completed in March last year (2010), but Mrs May refused to let him and his wife see it because it was “sensitive”, Mr McCann said during a press conference yesterday.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/missing-madeleine-mccann-scotland-yard-in-fresh-review-1-3378456
5th October 2010 Gamble resigns from CEOP
Home Office Statement 12th May 2011:
The Home Office today announced that the Metropolitan Police Service will be bringing their expertise to the case regarding the search for Madeleine McCann.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-statement-on-madeleine-mccann
Doug D
Doug D,
DeleteThank you for correcting us.
Mistook Home Office for Theresa May and completely overlooked the fact Alan Johnson was Home Secretary for almost 1 year.
Meaning, obviously, if the report was ready in March, it was him who ordered. It does confirm that the build-up to Operation Grange started much earlier than the alleged "McCann letter of request" in 2011.
We linked May's willingness for what would become Operation Grange with Gamble's exit from CEOP, as you point out, October 2010. In that, then, we saw May's hand and that's what our memory registered.
Our apologies for the mistake.
In the sake of information sharing, if you ever recollect what gave you the impression May resisted the original review, we would be grateful if would point it out to us.
The more we all know, the better it is for truth.
A lot of the newspaper reports seem to have been 'whooshed' but from the ones that are still there, she had a meeting with the Mc’s in the summer of 2010, but Theresa May seemingly did nothing for 10 months until pushed by Cameron following the front page letter in the Sun.
DeleteKate and Gerry McCann to meet Home Secretary Theresa May in a bid to reopen Maddie case
By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 14:45, 4 July 2010
Kate and Gerry McCann will meet with Home Secretary Theresa May amid speculation a new investigation could be opened into the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.
The Home Office confirmed Mrs May will meet with the couple to discuss how the search for their daughter, who has been missing for more than three years, is progressing.
The couple requested to meet with the new Home Secretary as part of their push for a review of all the information in the hands of the British and Portugese authorities.
Former Labour Home Secretary Alan Johnson last year ordered an internal review of evidence and an outline of how a new investigation into Madeleine's disappearance might work.
It is understood the report is almost complete, and could pave the way for a fresh probe into the case.
But the Metropolitan Police said it had no plans to reopen the investigation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1291889/Kate-Gerry-McCann-meet-Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-discuss-Maddie-case.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Tracey that then takes it on, so make of it what you will:
I’m disappointed in you Home Secretary, says Kate McCann
By Tracey Kandohla
UPDATED: 16:16, 7 November 2010
The mother of missing Madeleine McCann fears Home Secretary Theresa May is failing to act in the search for her.
Dr Kate McCann said she was ‘disappointed’ by Mrs May when they met three months ago.
…… speaking after she and surgeon husband Gerry launched an online petition to lobby the British and Portuguese governments for a review of the case.
Mrs McCann said: ‘Theresa May said she didn’t want to make any commitment. It was disappointing.
Just before the Election in May, the McCanns met David Cameron who said that if he became Prime Minister, he would do what he could to help.
A report by Jim Gamble, of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, is thought to back the McCanns’ demand for a review of all the evidence.
The report was commissioned by the then Labour Home Secretary Alan Johnson but not completed until the summer, when Mrs May became Home Secretary.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327336/Kate-McCann-Disappointed-Home-Secretary-Theresa-May.html
Then it jumps forward to the letter on the front page of the Sun and the supposed threats to Cameron if he didn’t act:
Madeleine McCann's parents ask PM for review
Kate and Gerry McCann want an 'independent, transparent and comprehensive review' into to their daughter's disappearance
The Guardian
Press Association
Thursday 12 May 2011 08.17 BST
The parents of Madeleine McCann have asked David Cameron to launch an "independent, transparent and comprehensive review of all information" related to the disappearance of their daughter.
In a letter published by the Sun on Madeline's eighth birthday on Thursday, Kate and Gerry McCann said they had "tried in vain" to secure a formal inquiry, and "it's not right that a young, vulnerable British citizen has essentially been given up on".
They told the prime minister that "the benefits of pooling together different bits of evidence can be enormous".
A spokesman for Cameron said he wanted to make sure the government did "all it can to help them".
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/may/12/madeleine-mccann-parents-pm-review
The Home Office then released it’s statement that the Met would be ‘bringing their expertise’ to the case, also on 12th May 2011.
Doug D
I think the idea that Theresa May was against the review by the Met might have come from the Sun newspaper where RB threatened to put her on the front page of the sun everyday until she agreed to it. Personally I think that was all part of the wee games played by the Sun to convince us it was the McCanns who instigated it
DeleteThank you Doug D,
DeleteYour contributions are always helpful and very welcome.
We appreciate being accompanied on the search for truth.
I've oft wondered and I guess its been speculated before if they really wanted and expected an investigation,its all very well having a review that could lead no where and keep playing the poor put upon us card,but once it went to investigation there is/was stuff that perhaps shouldn't see the light of day,not that OG seem to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff.
DeleteGoing back to the three choices 1 or 3 seem the most likely with 1 being the favourite imo which would kind of tie in with the SC ruling.
http://portugalresident.com/silence-settles-over-mccann%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Ccostly%E2%80%9D-court-defeat
ReplyDeletePosted by portugalpress on March 24, 2017
Silence settles over McCann’s “costly” court defeat
Since news that the parents of Madeleine McCann have lost their third court bid for damages against former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral, relative silence has settled over the British media.
Only one tabloid appears to be flying provocative headlines, while it has been left to a fringe news site to put them into ‘journalese’.
The Daily Star proclaimed yesterday that the “Fund set up to find missing Madeleine Mccann could be wiped out”.
Radaronline ran with the far more sensationalist assertion that parents Kate and Gerry “are facing bankruptcy”.
The truth is possibly somewhere in between - which, as Portuguese tabloid Correio da Manhã admits, “will be expensive” whatever the final amount.
The ruling by Supreme Court judges released last week leaves the Leicester couple liable for not only their own court costs, but those incurred by Amaral in a series of hearings.
The Star maintains that “no figure has been agreed, but it will be six figures and could use up all the cash left in the fund set up to find Madeleine, if trustees agree to release the cash”.
CM appears to have misread the Star’s story, and suggest the final figure for the couple’s court costs will be €100,000.
This could not possibly ‘wipe out’ the Find Madeleine Fund, as this stands - according to the Star - at £714,800 (or €826,000).
At no point in any of the stories following up on this protracted legal battle has there been any clue as to whether Amaral will be lodging his own civil action for damages - a possibility he has floated in the press in the past (click here).
Indeed, Amaral has been keeping his own silence as he works hard on the finishing touches of his second book on the Madeleine mystery - aimed for a publishing date at the end of April to coincide with the 10-year anniversary of the child’s disappearance.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
Unpublished Anonymous at 24 Mar 2017, 20:53:00,
ReplyDeleteWe don't publish speculation much less one that starts with "I read on a Facebook article a couple of years ago that..."
We are certain that there are other places on the internet that will entertain your theory.
We have witnessed lately attempts to introduce in the blog speculation about a certain part of the British society. Please stop trying, it won't work.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/rendezview/women-support-other-women-unless-theyre-rich-and-pretty/news-story/2c6462280e975ce09520468adf8d8b0f
ReplyDeleteNeglect heavily promoted
Anonymous 25 Mar 2017, 13:06:00,
DeleteThank you and bringing this over to the blog:
Women support other women, unless they’re rich and pretty
Kerry Parnell, News Corp Australia Network
8 minutes ago
Mum judging should be a crime. It remains one of the worst characteristics of women.
This week the other mothers have attacked Madeleine McCann’s mum Kate and Melissa George. Kate McCann is marking the 10-year anniversary of Madeleine going missing and Melissa George has gone public with her domestic violence and custody battles.
Both have been vilified online by mainly mothers — McCann for leaving her daughter alone and George for being poncy about croissants and therefore “getting what she deserved.”
In fact their crimes, I suspect, are more to do with the fact they’re blonde, attractive, successful and rich.
Have we so little empathy? I thought we were all meant to be in this new-wave feminist thing together? The sisterhood isn’t just a club for women you like, to savage ones you don’t — it means everybody, including ones who are snobby, rich, clever and pretty.
It’s been 10 years this May since Madeleine McCann went missing while on holiday in Portugal. This week it was revealed her parents Kate and Gerry receive over 150 abusive messages per day from online trolls. A research project by psychologist Dr John Synnott concluded most of the messages came from women.
There’s also a new petition — the latest in a long line, calling for the McCanns to be prosecuted for child neglect. Change.org’s “McCann’s (sic) to be charged with neglect,” has had over 129,000 signatures in a week, probably because it’s taken off on Facebook and is infiltrating mum feeds like mine.
It made my heart sink to see it, and the comments like this from Amanda: “I think they should be charged. It’s their fault she got taken. They should not be allowed to keep their twins.” Seriously?
They’re very angry, these mums. Rightly, they’re angry for poor Madeleine — a case that still haunts parents all over the world. She should have been so happy, enjoying her holiday, but the thought of what happened to her while she slept is too horrible to bear.
But they’re mostly angry at her parents because the McCanns put three-year-old Maddie and her two-year-old twin siblings to bed in their ground floor holiday apartment and went to dinner with friends in a restaurant nearby, taking turns to check on the children. When Kate returned, Madeleine was gone.
Should they have left their children alone? Absolutely not. But do you think they don’t know that? That they haven’t lived ever since in a torment of loss, grief, anxiety and never-ending pain knowing some terrible harm befell her because of their decision — but never knowing what?
Such is our empathy-disengagement through social media that we are hurling hate missiles online and not for one minute thinking about where they land.
Melissa George and Kate McCann are real women, not marionette mothers for us to cyber stone to death.
Kate and Melissa’s misery should make us care more, not less. Self-righteously judging them from our moral mountaintop might make us feel better, but it’s a feeble victory.
Whatever happened to Madeleine is punishment enough for her parents. They will continue to inhabit a living hell every single day until they finally meet her again — be that here or in the next world.
Originally published as The harshest judges of mums? Other mothers
Food for thought to all who signed the petition.
DeleteI have no idea who Melissa George is & I am still none the wiser having read that article. (I will now Google to satisfy my own curiosity) Unsure why the author even felt the need to mention Melissa as it's clearly a neglect-poor Kate- propaganda piece. I see the neglect petition has over 130,000 signatures with the "demand" to take a "voluntary" lie detector test trailing behind with 26,000. Who even comes up with these ideas!
DeleteA lot of twitter users warned against signing
DeleteI'm led to understand that the PJ couldn't charge the Mc's because although their was compelling evidence, such as the fluids in the car etc., the burden of proof level is set higher in Portugal? Even Stuart "cal me Stu" Prior (Leics Pol) stated that the DNA match from the hire car would be enough to arrest in the UK...
ReplyDeletehttp://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/guilt-trap-why-the-mccanns-remind-us-of-ourselves-35565764.html
ReplyDeleteGuilt trap: Why the McCanns remind us of ourselves
Even if we believe the McCanns did nothing wrong, 10 years on, their guilt feels real to us all
Sarah Caden
March 26 2017 2:30 AM
'Don't get me on to the McCanns, we've all got something to say about them." According to the friend who visited her in prison and kept diaries of their conversations, these are the words of Karen Matthews, who in 2008 faked the kidnap of her nine-year-old daughter, Shannon. The child was found more than a fortnight later, alive, but tied up and drugged, hidden in a bed base, at Karen's boyfriend's uncle's home.
"I've been judged and I'm paying for it," Matthews is reported to have said, "but Maddie's mother was bad too. At least my daughter was never left alone!"
The basic point being made by Matthews in this and other bits of her rant against the McCanns - and Kate McCann in particular - is that because they were middle class and educated and even good-looking, they got an easier ride than she...
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To Sarah Caden, who seems to enjoy being compared to the McCanns:
Deletehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I3BRC2FOD5g&sns=tw
They can't remember?! Not even the “one or two sightings” that THEY deemed possibly important?
This is unbelievable.
Do observe the mannerisms of both, for example how Kate finds the memory she is recollecting to be particularly amusing when she says “there was one, wasn’t there?...”
In the meantime, the silence is telling. It was, is and will always be the best weapon when the other side is shouting in all directions.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3182977/kate-mccann-tenth-mothers-day-maddie/
ReplyDelete'IT'S A CONSTANT REMINDER'
Kate McCann endures tenth Mother’s Day without Madeleine
Kate is believed to have attended a special church service with husband Gerry and their 12-year-old twins today
Exclusive
By Tracey Kandohla
26th March 2017, 4:41 pm
Updated: 26th March 2017, 4:52 pm
KATE McCann faces more heartache today as she spends her 10th Mother’s Day without daughter Madeleine – one of the toughest dates on her calendar.
The brave mum said the occasion would be painful for her and “a constant reminder that one of my babies isn’t with me.”
She is believed to have attended a special church service with husband Gerry and their 12-year-old twins Sean and Amelie where prayers were said for Maddie and other missing children.
Former GP Kate, 49, in a previous TV interview to mark Mother’s Day, vows to “get through it like any other day.” She said: “I am still Madeleine’s mum and always will be. I just want to bring her back into the warmth and love of our family.”
Locals in the family’s home village of Rothley, Leics, remembered Maddie during a morning service at the Sacred Heart Catholic Church.
Traditionally the children hand their mothers a a daffodil after the final hymn is sung.
One worshipper said: “It is a service representing Lent and at the end it is custom for the children to file up to the doors and pick a daffodil from the basket to give to their mums.”
The three-year-old girl vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal’s Praia da Luz nearly a decade ago.
Devout Catholic Kate and heart doctor Gerry, 48, are holding onto a glimmer of hope that their daughter – who would now be aged 13 – could still be alive.
The couple are bracing themselves for the agonising milestone anniversary in less than six weeks.
A close pal of the McCann’s said: “Kate and Gerry continue to believe that Madeleine is still out there to be found and they hope police finally get the breakthrough that everybody desperately wants.
“The pain of being parted from Madeleine never fades but Kate keeps strong and brave for the twins’ sake.”
In the run up to the anniversary of Maddie’s disappearance her parents have been bombarded with cruel tweets.
But Kate revealed this week that she’s ignoring all negative remarks. She told the Sun Online exclusively: “I’m not hurt an upset by what they say because I don’t do social media.”
Scotland Yard have been given an extra £85,000 to help keep their struggling six-year search for Maddie alive.
Earlier this week the McCann’s lost the latest and possibly the last round in their long running battle to silence a former police chief.
The fresh setback means Kate and Gerry now face paying all the court costs of their tormentor Goncalo Amaral plus their own fees, which could wipe out the entire Find Maddie Fund.
Their last-bid action challenging a court ruling was thrown out of Lisbon’s Supreme Court on Tuesday rubber-stamped “Indeferida” – or Rejected.
They have no further court in Portugal to complain to.
But they could consider going to the European Court of Human Rights if they feel an “injustice” has been done.
Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said of the fresh legal loss: “This is just another part of the legal challenge.”
He declined to discuss if the McCanns would continue their nine-year fight against ex-Portuguese officer Mr Amaral, saying: “Anything to do with the Supreme Court Ruling is a matter for Kate and Gerry’s lawyers in Portugal.”
The couple’s lawyer Isabel Duarte declined to comment, saying: “As yet we have not received any formal notification from the court.”
"Former GP Kate, 49, in a previous TV interview to mark Mother’s Day, vows to..."
DeletePlease google and see what, or better when, did we hear something fresh out of the McCanns mouth.
Wouldn't Mother's Day be the perfect occasion for Kate to have expressed what she feels this day today instead of Ms Kandhola having to pick up a quote from the past?
"She is believed to have attended..." Did she or didn't she? As for the article in the Irish Sunday Independent... the author has n't even the basic facts correct. It's "chance your arm" journalism at its best.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/someone-protecting-madeleine-mccann-kidnapper-10104793.amp
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/someone-protecting-madeleine-mccann-kidnapper-10104793
ReplyDelete'Someone is protecting Madeleine McCann's kidnapper' claims cop who spent years hunting her
Former Detective Inspector Dave Edgar says the motive for taking Madeleine was sexual and insists her parents had nothing to do with her disappearance
ByPaul ByrneMartin Fricker
22:11, 26 MAR 2017
Updated22:21, 26 MAR 2017
Someone is protecting Madeleine McCann ’s kidnappers, says a detective who hunted for her for three years.
As Kate McCann faced her 10th Mother’s Day without Maddie, retired Det Insp Dave Edgar broke his silence for the first time to open his files.
Revealing findings, that a child-sex gang most likely took the three-year-old, he said: “Someone knows what happened and it’s time they came forward.”
Mr Edgar believes an abductor has secretly confessed to the crime and, speaking for the first time since his three-year private investigation into the 2007 disappearance, he said one of those involved will have opened-up to a friend or relative.
Calling for an end to the agony of Maddie’s parents Kate and Gerry, he pleaded: “If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward.”
One of the top experts on the case, he also believes:
- There is no evidence to suggest Kate and Gerry were involved.
- It was a well planned abduction.
- There was no evidence against two prime suspects of abducting her from Praia Da Luz in May.
- The motive for taking three-year-old Madeleine was sexual.
- There is still hope she is alive.
When the Metropolitan Police took over the search in 2011, Mr Edgar handed his files to the force.
But he has kept in contact with the probe and believes a new appeal could finally solve it.
He said: “Someone knows, it must be on someone’s conscience, please come forward.”
After Madeleine vanished from the McCanns’ Warner Ocean Club holiday flat, while her parents were dining with friends, Portuguese police named Kate and Gerry as “arguidos” or suspects.
But Mr Edgar dismisses that, flying in the face of last week’s Lisbon court decision to uphold the right of Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral to publish his book alleging Madeleine had died and the McCanns covered it up.
“I was looking at everything and that would include them,” he said.
“If I found any evidence against Kate and Gerry I would have given it to the police immediately. Kate and Gerry would expect no less. But I found no shred of evidence.
“We obviously look at all factors – motive, preparation, opportunity – and there was absolutely nothing.”
During his probe, paid for by the Find Madeleine Fund, Mr Edgar’s small team of investigators examined a number of potential suspects, including two of the most high profile names on the list, Raymond Hewlett and Euclides Monteiro.
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ReplyDeleteConvicted UK paedophile Hewlett was living near the resort in 2007. He died, aged 64, of cancer in Germany in 2010.
Mr Edgar, 60, said: “He was high on the person of interest list as far as the press were concerned but he was someone who we just wanted to speak to and look at. In terms of fitting the profile, Hewlett would probably come as close as you would get to a main suspect.
But he added: “There was no hard and fast evidence because, if there had been, he would have been arrested.”
Monteiro, 40, a drug addict and ex Ocean Club worker, who died in a tractor accident in 2009, was also ruled out.
“Yes, he was a suspect but on the files that I saw there was no evidence that he was involved to the level that the Portuguese police thought” said Mr Edgar.
“My understanding is that they were convinced he had done it. They decided it was him. On what basis?”
So what did happen to Madeleine? Mr Edgar had a 30-year career with the RUC and Cheshire police and worked on high profile murder cases, including Shafilea Ahmed and Garry Newlove.
He has heard dozens of theories about Madeleine – that she had wandered off, and been run over, become the victim of a random burglar or taken by someone wanting to raise a child for themselves.
He believes it was a planned operation by a lone kidnapper or a gang.
He said: “There was a very narrow window of opportunity for them to get away with Madeleine. So it does point to it being planned and some level of surveillance, perhaps of the apartment.”
He added: “If the motive was gang-related child prostitution, there might have been more than one involved.”
And that’s where a breakthrough may come. He said: “They can’t keep it to themselves and research has shown they always confide in someone else.
“I think that someone else apart from the perpetrator knows and that is one of the best hopes of getting to the truth, that someone comes forward and says what they know.”
He says a cash reward, like those offered in the past, is unlikely to yield results, but an appeal to the heart might. Instead, he wants a police-backed European campaign.
“I’m talking about TV, posters, letters, text messages, new technology. We’re talking Europe. Get the message out there.”
He fears whoever was responsible will have struck again. He said: “It’s the type of crime they cannot help themselves, certainly if it was sexually motivated.”
Like millions of others, the retired detective clings to the hope that Madeleine is still alive, possibly being held prisoner and potentially still in Portugal.
There have been a number of cases where victims have emerged after being held in captivity for years.
“Until such time that a body is found it is a live investigation and there is always hope,” he said.
Can readers see the BEAUTY of this article?
DeleteOne hint:
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Not related with comment above one has to love this bit: "“Yes, he was a suspect but on the files that I saw there was no evidence that he was involved to the level that the Portuguese police thought” said Mr Edgar."
DeleteSomeone should tell Mr (?) Edgar that files were archived until NEW evidence came up. If files were reopened, then NEW evidence is not in OLD files, now is it?
Think the right word to start explanation is... DUH!!
"He fears whoever was responsible will have struck again. He said: “It’s the type of crime they cannot help themselves, certainly if it was sexually motivated.”
DeleteYep, every 10 years or longer these repeat offenders simply can't resist the urge to do it again and again.
Have we gone back in time to 2007 with this article........anybody who has benefited financially from the Madde lie is now finding out you don't take your money and Sauk into the sunset. You can be called on at anytime to make a tit out of yourself for you masters own purposes
DeleteAh good old Dave Edgar re-emerging from his cave of knowledge. From Victoria Beckham lookalikes to flying out to Germany to interview a suspect, only to be refused by German authorities to being imprisoned in a hellish lair. Gotta keep them options open and "Jane (tanner) is a very reliable witness.
ReplyDeleteTextusa as you stated so recently. ..They are at the end of their rope. This must be one of the most ridiculous articles I have read for a while. How low can they go??
ReplyDeletehttp://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/03/27/14/56/madeleine-mccann-aborted-reconstruction-crime-scene-did-damage-to-kate-gerry
ReplyDeleteBringing this over to the blog:
DeleteCrime
2:56pm March 27, 2017
Aborted reconstruction of fateful night Maddie vanished 'damaged' the McCanns
By
Mark Saunokonoko
Detectives had such concerns over what really transpired the night Madeleine McCann disappeared that they were desperate to reconstruct movements of key people, including Kate and Gerry.
Replicating actions of the McCanns and their group of friends known as the Tapas 7 would help clarify "extremely important details" and timelines, according to the police case files.
It was a reconstruction that the McCanns appeared reluctant to participate in - despite Portugal's police pleading its importance - and it was eventually aborted.
Less than two months after a significant effort to set up the reconstruction had floundered, police shelved the investigation in July 2008.
The reconstruction that never happened caused "damage" to the McCanns, according to a final 17-page report on the 14-month long investigation.
Portugal's Public Prosecutor stated in the report that the McCanns "lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted 'arguidos' (a formal suspect): their innocence towards the fateful event."
Planning for the failed reconstruction began in earnest around April 2008, almost one year after Maddie vanished on May 3, 2007 from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz.
A series of emails between Portugal's police and Leicestershire police shows the protracted and ultimately futile negotiations to convince Kate and Gerry's seven UK-based friends to come back to Praia da Luz for a reconstruction.
At this time, the McCanns were also home in the United Kingdom, having returned to England two days after they were put under 'arguidos' status.
On May 1, 2008, doctors Kate and Gerry McCann appeared on both BBC and Sky News to tackle the looming reconstruction issue, after news of a potential re-enactment began to appear in the media.
Gerry was worried about a potential press frenzy in Portugal, and rightfully pointed out the decision was not just theirs to make, but also the responsibility of the Tapas 7.
"I think also the other issue is how much more information will that get us one year on? We have told everything to police," Gerry told BBC host Bill Turnbull during a studio interview.
"We will do anything if we believe it will help to find Madeleine," Kate added, despite having declined to answer 48 questions during a police interview on the day she was made an 'arguido'.
Privately, police had always harboured doubts over the witness statement of Jane Tanner, one of the Tapas 7.
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DeleteTanner's testimony, in which she claimed to see a man carrying a child near the apartment about 9.15pm the night Maddie went missing, was pivotal in driving the McCann's abduction theory.
Detectives had highlighted her statements, which had changed during subsequent police interviews, as one of the primary reasons for a reconstruction. There had also been a lack of forensic evidence to indicate an abduction.
US criminal profiler Pat Brown, who has studied the case extensively, including visiting Praia da Luz, told Nine.com.au she had problems believing Tanner's account.
"I've been on that street [where the alleged sighting of a man carrying a child occurred] and what Jane Tanner says does not make sense," Brown said.
"If Jane Tanner was telling the truth, then Gerry McCann has an alibi."
As negotiations for the reconstruction rumbled on, members of the Tapas 7 relayed a number of concerns to Leicestershire Police, questioning the motives of Portugal's investigation.
The Policia Judiciaria responded with assurances around security, detailing that the Tapas 7 could bring their lawyers, and that no images or video would be released to media.
In the middle of May 2008, with Maddie still missing more than one year on, it became clear that the Tapas 7 were refusing to travel to Praia da Luz for the re-enactment.
Kate and Gerry McCann responded to Portugal's police stating they would participate but, without the Tapas 7, the reconstruction was already null and void.
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DeleteMark Saunokonoko @saunokonoko
@McCannCaseTweet remarkable behaviour and perverse priorities when a four-year-old girl remains missing.
22:28 - 26 Mar 2017
About this, we recommend readers read this post:
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We are going to be subjected to this sort of tripe for a while now... fortunately, even those without muck knowledge of the case are looking at these sort of articles with glazed eyes
ReplyDeleteAs a foreign follower -not British, not Portuguese- I am asking myself and others: how long can you go on with this nonsense? If the parents had nothing to do with the disappearance of their daughter why would they allow this endless flow of non-reporting.
ReplyDeleteI suggest that Gerry and Kate McCann personally make a formal statement to the press to stop this storytelling. I suggest … "We, Kate and I, in the name of ourselves, our daughter Amelie and our son Sean, ask the national and international press to stop publishing stories that are not based on results of the police investigation into the disappearance of our daughter, Madeleine. We wish to distance ourselves emphatically from all messages that are not distributed by the official, authorized sources."
Maybe they should choose the same 'setting' as on the 4th of may 2007. Together, holding hands and cuddlecat, Gerry reading a text, hastily (?) written down on a bit of paper, preferably wearing the same clothes.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/detective-who-spent-years-hunting-12800749
ReplyDeleteDetective who spent years hunting Madeleine McCann claims 'someone is protecting kidnapper'
“Someone knows what happened and it’s time they came forward”
ByPaul ByrneMartin Fricker
22:46, 26 MAR 2017
Updated22:57, 26 MAR 2017
A detective who spent years hunting for Madeleine McCann claims someone is protecting the kidnapper.
Retired Det Insp Dave Edgar broke his silence for the first time to open his files, saying the motive for taking Madeleine was sexual and insists her parents had nothing to do with the disappearance
Revealing findings, that a child-sex gang most likely took the three-year-old, he said: “Someone knows what happened and it’s time they came forward.”
Mr Edgar believes an abductor has secretly confessed to the crime and, speaking for the first time since his three-year private investigation into the 2007 disappearance, he said one of those involved will have opened-up to a friend or relative.
Calling for an end to the agony of Maddie’s parents, Liverpool-born Kate and Gerry, he pleaded: “If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward.”
One of the top experts on the case, he also believes:
- There is no evidence to suggest Kate and Gerry were involved.
- It was a well planned abduction.
- There was no evidence against two prime suspects of abducting her from Praia Da Luz in May.
- The motive for taking three-year-old Madeleine was sexual.
- There is still hope she is alive.
When the Metropolitan Police took over the search in 2011, Mr Edgar handed his files to the force.
But he has kept in contact with the probe and believes a new appeal could finally solve it.
Speaking to the Mirror, he said: “Someone knows, it must be on someone’s conscience, please come forward.”
After Madeleine vanished from the McCanns’ Warner Ocean Club holiday flat, while her parents were dining with friends, Portuguese police named Kate and Gerry as “arguidos” or suspects.
But Mr Edgar dismisses that, flying in the face of last week’s Lisbon court decision to uphold the right of Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral to publish his book alleging Madeleine had died and the McCanns covered it up.
“I was looking at everything and that would include them,” he said.
“If I found any evidence against Kate and Gerry I would have given it to the police immediately. Kate and Gerry would expect no less. But I found no shred of evidence.
“We obviously look at all factors – motive, preparation, opportunity – and there was absolutely nothing.”
During his probe, paid for by the Find Madeleine Fund, Mr Edgar’s small team of investigators examined a number of potential suspects, including two of the most high profile names on the list, Raymond Hewlett and Euclides Monteiro.
(Cont.)
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ReplyDeleteConvicted UK paedophile Hewlett was living near the resort in 2007. He died, aged 64, of cancer in Germany in 2010.
Mr Edgar, 60, said: “He was high on the person of interest list as far as the press were concerned but he was someone who we just wanted to speak to and look at. In terms of fitting the profile, Hewlett would probably come as close as you would get to a main suspect.
But he added: “There was no hard and fast evidence because, if there had been, he would have been arrested.”
Monteiro, 40, a drug addict and ex Ocean Club worker, who died in a tractor accident in 2009, was also ruled out.
“Yes, he was a suspect but on the files that I saw there was no evidence that he was involved to the level that the Portuguese police thought” said Mr Edgar.
“My understanding is that they were convinced he had done it. They decided it was him. On what basis?”
So what did happen to Madeleine? Mr Edgar had a 30-year career with the RUC and Cheshire police and worked on high profile murder cases, including Shafilea Ahmed and Garry Newlove.
He has heard dozens of theories about Madeleine – that she had wandered off, and been run over, become the victim of a random burglar or taken by someone wanting to raise a child for themselves.
He believes it was a planned operation by a lone kidnapper or a gang.
He said: “There was a very narrow window of opportunity for them to get away with Madeleine. So it does point to it being planned and some level of surveillance, perhaps of the apartment.”
He added: “If the motive was gang-related child prostitution, there might have been more than one involved.”
And that’s where a breakthrough may come. He said: “They can’t keep it to themselves and research has shown they always confide in someone else.
“I think that someone else apart from the perpetrator knows and that is one of the best hopes of getting to the truth, that someone comes forward and says what they know.”
He says a cash reward, like those offered in the past, is unlikely to yield results, but an appeal to the heart might. Instead, he wants a police-backed European campaign.
“I’m talking about TV, posters, letters, text messages, new technology. We’re talking Europe. Get the message out there.”
He fears whoever was responsible will have struck again. He said: “It’s the type of crime they cannot help themselves, certainly if it was sexually motivated.”
Like millions of others, the retired detective clings to the hope that Madeleine is still alive, possibly being held prisoner and potentially still in Portugal.
There have been a number of cases where victims have emerged after being held in captivity for years.
“Until such time that a body is found it is a live investigation and there is always hope,” he said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4351498/Detective-claims-Madeleine-s-abductor-shielded.html
ReplyDeleteWho is protecting Maddie's kidnapper? Detective who spent three years probing the disappearance claims her abductor has confessed to a friend and McCann may still be ALIVE
Detective Dave Edgar believes the abductor confided in a friend or relative
He was hired to investigate after Portuguese police archived the 2007 case
Edgar believes Madeleine, who would be turning 14 in May, could still be alive
By Fionn Hargreaves For Mailonline
Published: 23:34 BST, 26 March 2017 | Updated: 01:45 BST, 27 March 2017
A detective who spent three years looking for Madeleine McCann has claimed her abductor told someone else about the crime.
Detective inspector Dave Edgar, 60, believes the kidnapper is being protected and is urging those with information to come forward.
He is sure parents Kate and Gerry McCann were not involved and said the disappearance was intricately planned.
Speaking to the Mirror, he said: 'If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward.
'They [abductors] can’t keep it to themselves and research has shown they always confide in someone else.'
Edgar also believes she could still be alive.
He said: 'Until such time that a body is found it is a live investigation and there is always hope [Madeleine is alive].'
Edgar, who runs Alpha Investigations Group, was hired by the McCanns to look into Madeleine's disappearance.
The Metropolitan Police took over the case in 2011.
He said there was no evidence to arrest paedophile Raymond Hewlett or Euclides Monteiro, two suspects in the inquiry.
Hewlett died in 2007, aged 64, while Monteiro, 40, died in 2009.
Madeleine McCann disappeared from Portuguese resort Praia da Luz in May 2007 as her parents were dining at a nearby restaurant.
If she is still alive, the girl will turn 14 in May.
The inquiry, which has cost more than £12 million, could be in its last year as topped-up funds are set to run out at the end of March.
In 2009, Edgar told the Belfast Telegraph he believed Madeleine was being held in an underground cell or dungeon, like the victims of Josef Fritzl.
The news comes after Kate and Gerry McCann lost their third libel case against the Portuguese detective who claimed they faked Madeleine's abduction.
Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie was written by Gonçalo Amaral, the policemen who headed the hunt for the girl.
Earlier in March, Portuguese crime expert Moita Flores made the outrageous claim Madeleine died in an apartment in the resort.
Garbage article, not surprinsingly, but the way it implicitely associates Monteiro with paedophilia is absolutely disgusting. I admire you Textusa for being able to read all these insanities in the UK press and keep a cool head. We are facing people without any shame...
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ReplyDeleteoh dear..
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/someone-is-protecting-madeleine-mccanns-kidnapper-top-detective-claims-075217181.html
DeleteSomeone is 'protecting' Madeleine McCann’s kidnapper, top detective claims
Anthony Pearce,Yahoo News UK 3 hours ago
A detective who spent three years searching for Madeleine McCann has claimed her abductor told someone else about the crime — and that she may still be alive.
Dave Edgar, 60, who began working on the case in 2009, believes the kidnapper is being protected, 10 years after her disappearance.
In a new interview, he urged anyone with information to come forward, adding that he was sure parents Kate and Gerry McCann were not involved.
Speaking to the Mirror, he said: “If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward.
“They [abductors] can’t keep it to themselves and research has shown they always confide in someone else.”
Edgar added: “Until such time that a body is found it is a live investigation and there is always hope [she is alive].”
Edgar, who runs Alpha Investigations Group, was hired by the McCanns to look into Madeleine’s disappearance, and worked on the case until the Metropolitan Police took over in 2012.
Madeleine disappeared on the evening of 3 May, 2007, from her bed in a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, a resort in the Algarve region of Portugal.
If she is still alive, she will turn 14 in May this year.
The inquiry, which has cost more than £12 million, has been granted further funds of £85,000, which will allow detective to continue the search.
Earlier this year, the McCanns lost a libel case against a Portuguese detective who claimed in a book they faked Madeleine’s abduction.
Detectives are currently said to be working on a theory that she was kidnapped by a European trafficking gang.
Interesting that this article ends with a video of the Ben Needham searches with the following title:
Delete“Forensic experts from McCann case help in the hunt for clues”
Yes - and it has now vanished from Yahoo uk ! No sign of it as far as I can see..
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ReplyDeleteWhat company Mr Edgar?
The one set up when you and Cowley were paid by the Mcs?
Since when were you re-employed by them? You were both dismissed from service years ago.
What research into confiding abductors Mr Edgar - can you back up that statement?
Amazing how the old gang - yourselves, Williams-Thomas, Graham Hill .. have all been wheeled back into the service of the McCanns.
Note that author of Vanished Danny Collins hasn't been included - probably because his woke and wandered version of the theory included quiz night at the Tapas, starring the quiz mistress who joined the Mcs in conversation.
Who will be next on the guest list?
Metodo 3, Kennedy...?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/784295/madeleine-mccann-latest-police-kidnapper-maddie
ReplyDeleteSomeone is protecting Maddie McCann's kidnapper, detective sensationally claims
MADELEINE McCann could still be alive - but someone is protecting her kidnappers, a detective formerly involved in the case has sensationally claimed.
By Joey Millar
PUBLISHED: 09:29, Mon, Mar 27, 2017 | UPDATED: 11:17, Mon, Mar 27, 2017
Retired Detective Inspector Dave Edgar ruled out Kate and Gerry McCann as suspects in the disappearance and said “someone knows” what really happened.
Mr Edgar spent three years hunting for Maddie, who disappeared from Praia Da Luz in Portugal in 2007.
He told the Mirror he believed the girl, then aged three, could still be alive and urged anyone with information to come forward.
He said: “I think that someone else apart from the perpetrator knows and that is one of the best hopes of getting to the truth, that someone comes forward and says what they know.
“They can’t keep it to themselves and research has shown they always confide in someone else.”
Mr Edgar said he believed the kidnapping, from the Ocean Club resort on May 3, 2007, could be sexually motivated - and feared, if so, the kidnapper could strike again.
He said: “If the motive was gang-related child prostitution, there might have been more than one involved.
“It’s the type of crime they cannot help themselves, certainly if it was sexually motivated.”
He ruled out the McCann parents as suspects, as well as two high-profile suspects who have both since died.
Regarding Madeleine McCann’s parents, he said: “If I found any evidence against Kate and Gerry I would have given it to the police immediately. Kate and Gerry would expect no less. But I found no shred of evidence.
“We obviously look at all factors – motive, preparation, opportunity – and there was absolutely nothing.”
nd he ruled out convicted British paedophile Raymond Hewlett, who was living near the scene at the time.
Mr Edgar said: “In terms of fitting the profile, Hewlett would probably come as close as you would get to a main suspect.
“There was no hard and fast evidence because, if there had been, he would have been arrested.”
He also ruled out Euclides Monteiro, a former staff worker at the resort, who, like Hewlett, has died in the past few years.
Mr Edgar said: “Yes, he was a suspect but on the files that I saw there was no evidence that he was involved to the level that the Portuguese police thought.”
The veteran detective concluded by saying he believed Madeleine could still be alive and urged anyone with information to come forward.
He said: “Until such time that a body is found it is a live investigation and there is always hope.
“If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward.”
This is another 'best bit'... “If I found any evidence against Kate and Gerry I would have given it to the police immediately. Kate and Gerry would expect no less. But I found no shred of evidence." Oh, dear. An investigation paid for by K&G - I'm sure you would have! Your other half was more interesting, said K&G weren't helpful when asked awkward questions. And there's the famous e-fit of course...
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ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann ‘could still be alive – and her kidnapper has probably confessed’
Rob Waugh for Metro.co.ukMonday 27 Mar 2017 7:33 am
A detective who spent three years looking for missing child Madeleine McCann says that she may still be alive – and her kidnapper has told someone about it.
Detective inspector Dave Edgar, 60, says the kidnapper has probably confided in someone else – and urged them to come forward.
Edgar – who was hired by the McCanns to investigate – says that the girl could still be alive.
Madeleine disappeared from a holiday home in Portugal’s Algarve region in May 2007, days before her 4th birthday.
Edgar said, ‘If anyone confided in you, now is the time to come forward. They can’t keep it to themselves and research has shown they always confide in someone else.’
‘Until such time that a body is found it is a live investigation and there is always hope.’
Edgar has previously said that Madeleine might be being kept in a Josef Fritzl-style dungeon.
The claims came after the parents of Madeleine McCann lost a third and final appeal to silence a police officer who wrote a book claiming they faked her abduction.
The book, ‘Maddie: The Truth of the Lie’ was written by Gonçalo Amaral, a senior police officer who headed the hunt for the missing child.
Earlier this year, Portugal’s supreme court ruled the allegations are protected by freedom-of-expression laws.
Supreme Court judge Dr Jorge Manuel Roque Nogueira dismissed a nine-page legal complaint filed by the McCanns, which alleged that judges were acting ‘frivolously’.
With thanks to Paul Rees at Justice for Madeleine FB group
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Steve Brookstein @stevebrookstein
Madeleine McCann fake news keeps on rolling on and on and on.
02:57 – 27 Mar 2017
https://twitter.com/stevebrookstein/status/846300158392520704
Looks like Tracey Kandhola has found out about the petition
ReplyDeletehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3197252/madeleine-mccann-petition-charged-child-neglect/
Bringing article over to blog:
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Pals slam ‘cruel’ petition calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be charged with child neglect – as signatures top 130,000
The petition - started by Hollie Flynn - looks set to fail, despite gaining 130,215 signatures on change.org
Exclusive
By Tracey Kandohla
28th March 2017, 4:50 pm
Updated: 28th March 2017, 6:06 pm
A PETITION calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be prosecuted for child neglect is today being dismissed as “pure bile” by the couple’s pals.
The attempt by Hollie Flynn to cause more anguish to Kate and Gerry looks set to fail, despite gaining 130,215 signatures on petition site change.org.
In the petition she complains Kate and Gerry “left three unattended children” in a holiday apartment in Portugal’s Praia da Luz “while they went off to enjoy a night out", stressing: "This is neglect."
It urges: “Please sign this petition to help bring down the McCann’s for neglect that has led to the 'disappearance' of Madeleine McCann.”
A close friend of ex GP Kate, 49, and heart doctor Gerry, 48, who face the painful tenth anniversary of their daughter’s disappearance in five weeks, told The Sun Online: “It is just another cruel and pointless rant against Madeleine’s parents and is pure bile. Social media has been chuntering on about them for weeks. It is all nonsense.”
The petition has not even been posted on the official Parliamentary website and is a carbon copy of one previously submitted to MPs for possible debate.
UK-based instigator Hollie declares she is “Petitioning Prime Minister of the UK Theresa May", but the source pointed out: “It’s not even been placed on the site where it could be considered for discussion even though it has got enough signatures. It seems people are only signing it because they think it’s the official website.”
Three-year-old Maddie vanished from her bed after being left alone with twin siblings Sean and Amelie, 27, months, while her parents dined in a nearby tapas bar with pals in 2007.
Among signatories are Colin Smith from Croydon, South London, who says: "I’m signing because I am a father to 2 boys aged 9 and 7 and I wouldn't leave them alone. To leave a 3 year old to babysit two 2 year olds is completely disgusting and has to be a criminal offence. Please make justice happen."
Julie Hill from Leicester adds: “If they were average people they would have been slated for leaving them alone."
A similar petition urging Maddie’s parents to face child neglect charges was submitted at some point during the 2010–2015 Conservative – Liberal Democrat coalition Government.
A note on the official petitions website states: “This petition has been archived.”
It says the petition was rejected as this is a "police operational matter".
It adds: “Petitions cannot be used to request action on issues that are outside the responsibility of the Government."
The Sun Online recently told how Kate and Gerry would have “fought tooth and nail” if they had ever been prosecuted for abandoning the young trio.
A McCann source said: “They were well aware they could have been charged with child neglect and naturally very concerned. But in legal terms they were doing everything well within the bounds of respectable parenting.”
The source insists: “Any legal action against them would have failed. A court would have to show Kate and Gerry had wilfully neglected their daughter and her siblings, and they did not. They would have robustly defended any charges, if brought.”
The couple could have faced jail under Portuguese law if they had ever faced a charge of abandonment and been convicted.
The McCann’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell today refused to discuss the petition saying: “There is absolutely no comment.”
Please note how the silence from either member of the couple continues.
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ReplyDeleteThis looks like another desperate attempt to push neglect ... though quite clever .
The petition was never going to be accepted
DeleteNeglect again!
What is this "respectable" parenting?
They used to quote "responsible" parenting.
Have they been told to change it?
What is respectable parenting anyway? A meaningless term.
Anonymous 28 Mar 2017, 17:46:00 and Anonymous 28 Mar 2017, 18:20:00,
ReplyDeleteIt just shows how effective the Katie Hopkins and the Minor Celebrity League 'neglect-campaign' was.
The good news is that between the last time we had heard of it, it had 129,000, so grew little. However, with this publicity-by-Kandhola we wouldn't be surprised the numbers will rise significantly.
I had to laugh at the "social media has been chuntering on about them (mccanns) for weeks" In an article-a-day Kandhola piece!
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ReplyDeletePetition calling for Maddie McCann's parents to be prosecuted slammed as 'pure bile'
A PETITION calling for Madeleine McCann’s parents to be prosecuted for child neglect has been dismissed as “pure bile”.
By Jerry Lawton / Published 28th March 2017
Hollie Flynn has collected more than 130,000 signatures. But her bid to cause more anguish to former doctors Kate and Gerry looks set to fail.
She posted the document on petition website change.org.
Flynn complained the McCanns had “left three unattended children” in a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, “while they went off to enjoy a night out”.
She claimed: “This is neglect.”
Her petition asked: “Why did the Portuguese police not charge the McCanns for children’s ‘abandonment’ after Maddie disappeared?”
UK based Flynn said it was directed at Prime Minister Theresa May. She urged people to sign to “help bring down the McCanns” for “neglect” resulting in Madeleine’s disappearance.
The petition is a carbon copy of one previously submitted to MPs for debate but shelved.
Last night a close pal of Kate, 49, and Gerry, 48, who face the 10th anniversary of their daughter’s disappearance on May 3, said: “It is just another cruel and pointless rant against Madeleine’s parents and is pure bile.
“Social media has been chuntering on about them for weeks. It is all nonsense. They were well aware they could have been charged with child neglect and naturally very concerned.
“But in legal terms they were doing everything well within the bounds of respectable parenting.
“Any legal action against them would have failed.”
Madeleine was three when she vanished from the family’s apartment in 2007 while her parents were dining with pals nearby.
They had left her sleeping in a bedroom with her then two-year-old twin siblings Sean and Amelie.
Last night the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell refused to discuss the new petition.
Iam afraid i dont find any of it funny....it is hugely frustrating...a whirlwind attempting to swallow all in its path with a complete disregard for any truth that gets in its way! The beast appears before us as it emerges to fight the last battle.....and we must assume the position of onlookers and keep faith that we shall see some justice in this headf#ck!
ReplyDeleteKeep on trucking girls!!
Bampots
Unpublished Anonymous at 29 Mar 2017, 11:17:00,
ReplyDeleteCan you please provide a link to what you claim so we can publish your comment?
Thank you.
Hi link as requested, found it by chance yesterday
ReplyDeletehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2262153/Madeleine-McCann-parents-to-access-police-files.html
Thank you!
DeleteAnd here is the comment we withheld:
"Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The 3rd BIG surprise":
I was reading yesterday how the Mccanns tried to get hold of all the Leicestershire police files on the case and how the police defied the judges order to release everything but in the end made a deal with the Mccanns to only release 81 files of witness statements out of a total of 11 thousand files. Only the Leicestershire police and OG know what is held in those other files but I think this is positive.
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 29 Mar 2017, 11:17:00"
The article above pre-dates the archival of the case, 21.07.07 as in the date the files were made public. In deed this article clearly mentions that these 11.000 that existed and that only 81 files were passed to them. 11.000 clearly includes the PJ files and 81 must be Leicester Police files since judicial secrecy still applied then. Nothing new or hopeful. It has been 5 years since OG started. A closure like the Ben case is precisely what is going to happen. The public will believe an abduction and the closure will be made in vague terms. That is all that matters for them. Parents exonerated, a vague abductor somewhere.
Delete" The couple, who are currently on their first family holiday since Madeleine's disappearance in Portugal in May 2007, had applied for the court hearing in a bid to force Leicestershire police to disclose 11,000 pieces of information which had either been passed on to them by Portuguese police or which had come to them directly from members of the public."
You can just see that the Petition is a big con just like everything else about this case. Who sets up a petition and then doesn't publish it on the official Parliamentary website. They really are taking the country for fools.
ReplyDeleteAs recommended I read:http://textusa.blogspot.pt/2016/06/reconstruction-for-may-3rd-3007.html
Fabulous work, you really have nailed it there is no way they can go for anything but truth. Without the truth we have Patsy or Archival
The government can't go for a patsy it would never stand up to any scrutiny which is why the South Yorkshire police have not given out any details of Ben Needhams fate. They have allowed the press to create a patsy but prevented the scrutiny which would expose the lie.
For Archival to be the option and the secret remain in tact and the press have to successfully persuaded the public that Maddie was left unattended and someone unknown stole her your reconstruction has shown that Jez Wilkins should start to worry.
His obvious lies sort of implicates him after all while the innocent tapas 9 were enjoying a stress free dinner he 1. Had been told that the child was left alone and 2. Seen lurking outside apartment 5A around the time child went missing. Currently he is content to allow him and his wife to be portrayed as liars to protect the secret I wonder is he content to be promoted to chief suspect
29 Mar 2017
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http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/
Anonymous 29 Mar 2017, 14:18:00,
DeleteThank you!
http://pjga.blogspot.pt/2017/03/acordao-supremo-tribunal-de-justica.html
Our translation from page 9, onwards:
DeleteThe applicants alluded to the “ostensible contradiction of grounds”, because in the acórdão it was considered that the archiving of the crime process was determined because it was not possible for the Public Ministry to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the applicants, while in the archiving dispatch what is said is that it occurred "because there existed no indicia that they have committed any crime, in terms of the provisions of Article 277 no. 1 of the CPP."
It will be stated, immediately, that the nullity invoked consists in there being contradiction between the grounds and the decision and not between the grounds.
In any case, it will always be said that the invoked contradiction doesn’t exist because, in our view, although the archiving dispatch alludes to the provisions of Article 277 nº1 (note that point 15 of the proven factual matter does not include the reference to that article), what is relevant is the content of the dispatch and not the citation of the legal provision.
Now, what stands out, manifestly, from that dispatch is that it was not issued because the Public Ministry had acquired the conviction that the applicants did not commit any crime, but because it was not possible for the Public Ministry to obtain sufficient indicia of the practice of crime by the applicants.
That is, the archiving will have been determined under Article 277 nº2 of the CPP, and not under nº1, of that article, although the latter is the article quoted in the dispatch.
Because of that it was understood, in the acórdão, that it would not seem acceptable to consider that the referred dispatch should be equated as evidence of inocentation [inocentação].
In fact, it is not said anywhere in that dispatch, that there was collected enough proof that no crime was committed or that the then defendants (now applicants) did not practice it in any way. (as per Art. 277, nº. 1).
The fact that the "Note for the Media” issued by the PGR on the same day the archiving dispatch was issued informs that the inquiry could be reopened "if new elements of proof appeared which would originate to serious, pertinent and consequential diligences", points out, precisely, to the conclusion that the dispatch was issued under the provisions of article 277, nº2 of the CPP.
In fact, if the inquiry had been closed under the provisions of nº2 of the same article, it could not be reopened (as per CPP, commented, 2016, 2nd edition, by Henriques Gaspar, Santos Cabral, Maia Costa, Oliveira Mendes, Pereeira Madeira e Henriques da Graça, pgs 929, 932 and 933).
In any event, it was only intended to counter the applicants' assertion that, with the alluded dispatch, had been made proof of the inocentation.
Thus, in one way or another, whatever the grounds for the archiving of the inquiry and the preclusive effects of the respective decision (the latter has no "judged case" strength, which reports exclusively to decisions of a jurisdictional nature, but that of a "decided case" or "almost judged case" ” – as per the quoted pgs 929 e 932), we would always understand that public criticism and public scrutiny of the functioning of justice, as stated in the acórdão, were not impeded.
That is, we would always conclude that the principle of presumption of innocence would not be relevant for the decision on the question that was to be decided.
It will therefore be concluded that the acórdão doesn’t suffer with the nullities of b) and c) of the nº1 of artº 616º of the CPC, applicable ex vi of the combined provisions of arts 666º, nº1 and 685º of the same Code.
By what was said, the argumentation of nullities of pgs 2793 and following is rejected, sentencing the applicants in the costs of the incident that caused them.
Hi Textusa,
ReplyDeleteWould consider that very concise. The court considers justice not being impeded priority, it considers facts over legal citation. And now going further by reinstating the fact that article no. 2 is what allows for the 'inquiry to be reopened' if new evidence.. etc.
Don't know if they will respond and I guesss of not the British press may not even pick it up. But I like it!
GP.
Dont know if you have these.....
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/601153/Maddie-McCann-Gerry-Kate-second-petition-missing-child
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3209725/fury-at-petition-calling-for-madeleine-mccanns-parents-kate-and-gerry-mccann-to-sit-a-lie-detector-test/
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11828718
And in the above mentioned Sun article a link to another article of March 24th about the lost appeal
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Anonymous 30 Mar 2017, 14:33:00,
DeletePlease read our post "Counter-attack"
http://textusa.blogspot.pt/2017/02/counter-attack.html
On "13. Almost all quiet on all fronts" you can see that this article was already published on Feb 16 this year.
Or this.....
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DeleteWe have been sent an image with the comment on FB from who appears to be the mother of the child allegedly involved in an attempted snatching in Spain, as was reported by the Daily Mail.
DeleteWe have reason to believe it’s genuine.
This is what the comment said:
“To everyone that has decided to make-up stories. Firstly it’s not a family dispute! Nor was the father or grandparents the took a little boy! It was my 3 year old daughter that it happened to! Secondly yes of course we have gone to the police, the police came withn minutes of the incident and all relevant paper work has been done! The national police of Estepona have been absolutely fantastic and have been very helpful! They think that man I unwell and assured us that they are doing everything they can to ease our minds! I would appreciate of people keep thei false accusations to them selves and get hard evidence before deciding to pretend that they know! This has been a terrible time for me and my family and to hear such vile stories actually makes me sick to my stomach!”
The Daily Mail journo of this story is none other than Gerard Couzens, adding his own twist to the story and making it worse for all concerned.
These so-called journalists adding to pro Mc scares have missed the boat.
The same Couzens who gleefully announced the McCann complaint but a month later ‘forgot’ to report that it was a dud.
We empathise with all the people involved.
We think for the sake of all concerned, mother and child and the named man and his son, it's better if this case gets no further attention or speculation.
For that reason we have removed the content of the comments referring to it. They had nothing controversial but we simply don’t want to contribute in any way to the pain of these people.
As we hope will be understood, we won’t be publishing any comments on this subject that we may receive.
We have been warned offline that things may not be as we have believed them to be on this incident.
DeleteWe will leave to readers to make up their minds themselves.
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http://www.diariosur.es/malaga/201703/30/policia-prudencia-secuestros-20170329230019.html
Not about what happened in Spain but about Couzens:
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Daniel Sanderson explains how Kate's diary came to be published by the newspaper and Couzen's role in acquiring it.
Feel free not to publish if you think best.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3217939/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-cop-goncalo-amaral-second-book-10th-anniversary-disappearance/
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Madeleine McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry face fresh torment as ex-Maddie cop prepares to publish SECOND book days before tenth anniversary of disappearance
A source said the McCanns are defiant over the book, insisting no British publisher "would dare to touch it"
By Tracey Kandohla
30th March 2017, 6:38 pm
Updated: 30th March 2017, 7:30 pm
MADELEINE McCann’s parents are facing further torment as the ex-cop behind shocking claims they covered up their daughter’s death prepares to publish a SECOND book days before the 10th anniversary of her disappearance.
But Kate and Gerry McCann said retired detective Goncalo Amaral’s “poisonous lies” will never be published in the UK because “no publisher will dare to touch it”.
The retired cop is penning the final pages of his second book on Maddie and wants it to be released by the end of April for “maximum impact” just days ahead of the painful 10th anniversary of her disappearance.
And the McCanns expect Amaral – who they say has hampered the global hunt for Maddie with false and malicious accusations while insisting she is dead – will continue being hurtful and controversial in book two.
A family source told The Sun Online: “Madeleine’s parents know that no publisher will dare to touch it in this country under our defamation laws or they would face legal action. Publishers have legal responsibilities.
“Let’s see what he says this time! He has written another book to coincide with the anniversary.
“If he repeats any allegations that he has made before Kate and Gerry’s lawyers will be looking at it.
“They have said before that their lawyers are watching.
“If Mr Amaral’s attempts to get his current book or his new one about Madeleine is published in the UK lawyers will take immediate action.”
Amaral, who claims to have developed a passion for “writing books and relaxing”, said previously: “I have written another book, examining the timeline and what people have said.”
The book, based on public extracts from Portuguese police files, is expected to give new information about the world’s biggest ever missing child mystery.
His first offering The Truth of the Lie – written a year after Maddie vanished from a holiday apartment in the Algarve’s Praia da Luz in May 2007 and a best-seller in Portugal – became the subject of a bitter libel feud.
The book, which netted Amaral a reported £350,000 with a combined TV documentary, was never published in Britain and for a time was banned in Portugal during the long running civil legal battle.
He claimed the three-year-old girl died accidentally in the flat and her parents covered up the death and hid her body.
Kate and Gerry from Rothey, Leics, vehemently denied his claims, insisting Maddie was kidnapped while left alone with her younger twin siblings as they dined nearby with pals.
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DeleteA source close to Amaral said: “His second book is being published and is going to come out at the end of April for maximum impact. He thinks it will be a big hit.
“Mr Amaral knows that the world is fascinated with the Maddie story and her parents.
Yesterday we revealed a shocking petition had been launched calling for the McCanns to take a lie detector test, sparking widespread fury and disgust.
The former police boss, who was thrown off the initial bungled Maddie inquiry, won his libel action against the McCanns on appeal.
Portuguese Supreme Court judges ruled he had the right to “freedom of expression” and that Maddie’s parents were not “formally in the clear” over their missing daughter.
Amaral, 57, said: “Winning the appeal case gives me no joy or happiness. It is just part of the legal process.
“I wanted to defend my reputation, and the integrity of the officers who worked with me, in the courts but now I just want a quiet peaceful life.”
He said he was driven to write his books to answer criticism against him in the British press, insisting he didnt' want to be "in the spotlight".
Scotland Yard are investigating one “last throw of the dice” lead in a bid to find out what happened to Maddie, and believe she was kidnapped by a European trafficking gang or snatched in burglary gone wrong.
The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “They will not be discussing Mr Amaral’s book or books in any way, shape or form.”
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/madeleine-mccanns-parents-face-fresh-torment-as-exmaddie-cop-prepares-to-publish-second-book/news-story/f774e10ed108428ea8562532c9b7da66
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Madeleine McCann’s parents face fresh torment as ex-Maddie cop prepares to publish second book
March 31, 20176:14am
Tracey Kandohla, The SunNews Corp Australia Network
MADELEINE McCann’s parents are facing further torment as the ex-cop behind shocking claims they covered up their missing daughter’s death prepares to publish a second book.
But Kate and Gerry McCann said retired detective Goncalo Amaral’s “poisonous lies” will never be published in the UK because “no publisher will dare to touch it”.
The retired cop is penning the final pages of his second book on Maddie and wants it to be released by the end of April for “maximum impact” just days ahead of the 10th anniversary of her disappearance.
The McCanns expect Mr Amaral — who they say has hampered the global hunt for Maddie with false and malicious accusations while insisting she is dead — will continue being hurtful and controversial in book two.
A family source told The Sun Online: “Madeleine’s parents know that no publisher will dare to touch it in this country under our defamation laws or they would face legal action. Publishers have legal responsibilities.”
A friend of the McCanns warned Mr Amaral their lawyers would get involved if he makes any further slurs against them, after previously alleging they covered up Maddie’s death
“Let’s see what he says this time. He has written another book to coincide with the anniversary. If he repeats any allegations that he has made before, Kate and Gerry’s lawyers will be looking at it. They have said before that their lawyers are watching.
“If Mr Amaral’s attempts to get his current book or his new one about Madeleine published in the UK, lawyers will take immediate action.”
Mr Amaral, who claims to have developed a passion for “writing books and relaxing”, said previously: “I have written another book, examining the timeline and what people have said.”
The book, based on public extracts from Portuguese police files, is expected to give new information about the world’s biggest-ever missing child mystery.
His first offering The Truth of the Lie — written a year after Maddie vanished from a holiday apartment in the Algarve’s Praia da Luz in May 2007 and a bestseller in Portugal — became the subject of a bitter libel feud.
The book, which netted Mr Amaral a reported £350,000 ($568,000) with a combined TV documentary, was never published in Britain and for a time was banned in Portugal during the long-running civil legal battle.
He claimed the three-year-old girl died accidentally in the flat and her parents covered up the death and hid her body.
The McCanns vehemently denied his claims, insisting Maddie was kidnapped while left alone with her younger twin siblings as they dined nearby with friends.
A source close to Mr Amaral said: “His second book is being published and is going to come out at the end of April for maximum impact. He thinks it will be a big hit. Mr Amaral knows that the world is fascinated with the Maddie story and her parents.”
Scotland Yard is investigating one “last throw of the dice” lead in a bid to find out what happened to Maddie, and believe she was kidnapped by a European trafficking gang or snatched in burglary gone wrong.
It comes as a petition was launched calling on the McCanns to take a lie-detector test.
This story originally appeared in The Sun and has been republished here with permission.