Monday 15 March 2010

Reasons and Monsters



“I am not a pro Mccann. 

I have my doubts like the majority. 

But, the way things have been described here it sounds like and Gerry and Kate are two monsters. 

If their daughter died, how did she die??? 

And what parents would be so cold hearted to NOT to depair with their daughter's death, being them guilty of leaving them alone or not. 

For sure they did not kill their daughter. Accidents happen, 

Why would they create such a circus in amidst so much pain they must have felt if their little daughter really died? 

I cannot beliveve that she died and they were so cold to plan it all. I am sorry. 

The thought is too horrendous.”



Dear Anon,

Thank you for your comment. Although I do disagree with its content, and will try to rebate it, one can see it’s heartfelt and so worth all of my respect.

You base your opinion solely on your judgment of human nature, as, according to you, no human being can be as inhuman as we here portray the McCanns.

But, what IF all the questions you raise all have the answers you fear to hear?

That they could be so cold hearted to NOT despair with their daughter's death; that they created such a circus in amidst so much pain they SHOULD, not must, have felt if their little daughter really died and that they were so cold to plan it all.

Then, you do agree with me, they would be exactly the monsters we here portray them to be, and, yes, you’re absolutely right, the thought IS too horrendous.

Now, imagine how horrendous it is for us who believe them to be the monsters you don’t imagine them to be…

But, yes, I did write “if”, so to be coherent I must also argue in favor of the contrary, that the McCanns are what you think them to be: innocent.

That would then make me one of the cruelest, inhumane creatures on this planet, to vilify two people who must be experiencing the worst possible pain a human being could be subjected to: lose a child to a molester and suffer the pain of being dubbed monsters by people like myself.

So, as far as I can see we are before one of two scenarios: either they are horrible indescribable monsters or I am. No other option.

The judgment of who is who, I leave it up to you.

I ask you to read, for there is much to be read, and make the call yourself. You’ll see that one side is based on “it cannot be”, “it’s impossible”, “nobody would be able to”, “it’s a monstrous campaign”, or such. All nothing but emotional judgments and opinions. Stereotyping human nature upon a couple who happen to be fairly handsome and supposedly educated.

The other, mine, is based on information. Known to be truthful. And on disinformation, contradiction and blatant and obvious lies.

Just read Ironside's posts and all are assumptions, but all based on reason and logic of what is known and written.

Not one word of persecution, but many of criticism against those that merit them: the McCanns, in the broadest sense of the surname.

I ask you straightforward one simple question. Imagine YOUR child went on vacation with the Tapas lot. It was your child that disappeared that evening. What would be your attitude and opinion if forensic dogs had barked at the car, clothes and places where and with whom your child was last seen with?

I could ask you many others questions.

Many others have already been asked and you’ve read them, and still, at least you say so, you have doubts. I have certainties.

However, your doubts are the doubts of “the majority”, per your own words. If you pinpoint your own doubts you’ll easily come to the conclusion that the only reason that this “majority” won’t see the McCanns as the monsters they really are, is just because they refuse to see them as monsters.

Nothing else.

 Before 2007, I didn’t know the McCanns existed.

Before 2008 I have no memory of a banned book in democratic UK.

No, it hasn’t hampered any investigation, because none was being undertaken. Private investigators don’t count when matters are as serious as yourself state them to be.

And albeit the “damned” book, the “sightings” just kept on rolling in… to the point of making Madeleine a ridiculous cartoon character, with no protest from the parents.

You are the first person to have honestly, candidly, politely and in an educated manner questioned my opinion.

You have my respect, and I do hope I’ve answered you adequately and appropriately.

Do have a good day.

25 comments:

  1. Dear Anon. my intention was not to cause you pain. I only want to know the truth. I do not believe and never have the McCanns killed their daughter .I believe it was an accident. I do however have great problems with their behaviour
    after Madeleine ' disappeared'.

    Whether a child is lost in death, or abduction I cannot understand the pleasure on their faces.

    http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/K-G/G-K.jpg

    Kate McCann when told she was to be made an Arguida,her reaction 'What will everyone say'?

    And there it is, Kate thinking of herself...The Mccanns could have used their Arguido status to gain more information from PJ. Instead, they fled back to the UK leaving the investigation in shreds.

    I understand perfectly why they did what I believe they did. Survival.

    However, the FUND is another matter. The Mccanns are still committing a criminal act, FRAUD.

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  2. http://thentherewere4-mccannunravelled.blogspot.com/

    Getting to know Gerry.

    TTW4

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  3. http://richardwilsonauthor.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/wikileaks-publish-bbcs-39-page-defence-against-the-trafigura-libel-suit/

    Wikileaks publish the libel case against Trafigura

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  4. http://file.wikileaks.org/files/bbc-trafigura.pdf

    Official documents

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  5. Anonymous;

    I was on that side too. Believing that Madeleine had vanished and that she must be found. I never questionned the McCanns' attitude, as the reports where I live (France) were fairly broadcasted and focused on the investigation.
    Since the PJ made available to public some of the files, I went by myself and read the unbiaised accounts on mccannfiles.com
    I was distraught. How can this be, how can they may have faked itif they did it? This is beyond human understanding.
    My own explaination is that they didn't plan it all, they didn't think the fund, the public attention and the media coverage -though staged on the first place would go so far. Think of the Pope himself displaying consderation towards them and the McCanns' reaction on their blogs " Rome in itself awaits for us".
    Then all this to me is simple: Uncertain people caught by their greediness and love for attention. Now that makes sense.

    Believe me, if this clan PROVES on SCIENTIFICAL and FACTS grounds that there was an abduction, I am willing to support their search.
    From what I can see, there's no search, no official investigation.
    I don't believe in acting, I believe in FACTS.
    Agnès Garcia Laville, France

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  6. Anonymous;

    I was on that side too. Believing that Madeleine had vanished and that she must be found. I never questionned the McCanns' attitude, as the reports where I live (France) were fairly broadcasted and focused on the investigation.
    Since the PJ made available to public some of the files, I went by myself and read the unbiaised accounts on mccannfiles.com
    I was distraught. How can this be, how can they may have faked itif they did it? This is beyond human understanding.
    My own explaination is that they didn't plan it all, they didn't think the fund, the public attention and the media coverage -though staged on the first place would go so far. Think of the Pope himself displaying consderation towards them and the McCanns' reaction on their blogs " Rome in itself awaits for us".
    Then all this to me is simple: Uncertain people caught by their greediness and love for attention. Now that makes sense.
    This is very human - but I don't share those standards.
    Believe me, if this clan PROVES on SCIENTIFICAL and FACTS grounds that there was an abduction, I am willing to support their search.
    From what I can see, there's no search, no official investigation.
    I don't believe in acting, I believe in FACTS.

    Agnès Garcia Laville, France

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  7. 'For sure they did not kill their daughter. '

    NOBODY can know that 'for sure', except the McCanns.

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  8. http://www.leicestersound.co.uk/Article.asp?id=1734214

    10 Officers from Leicester Police under Investigation

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  9. http://www.mannisms.com/2010/03/seconds-out-round-one/comment-page-1/#comment-97

    A little light relief (No pun intended)

    MP threatens Blogger for calling him a Wanker...lol

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  10. http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/03/video-below-presents-censored-by-super.html

    BBC... Carter Ruck...

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  11. Hollie greig case...tweets are coming through that..

    HOLLIE CASE BEING TAKEN UP BY SADAAM HUSSAINS LAWYER, A LEADING SCOTS NEWSPAPER AND A "LEADING" PUBLICIST..WE ALL KNOW THE ONE

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    Well I don't but hope to hear more..good news

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  12. http://www.france24.com/en/20100309-interview-khalil-al-doulaimi-lawyer-for-saddam-hussein%20

    Tweets saying it is Saddam Husseins lawyer..

    Robert Green is preparing documents

    Hollie has more than 15.000 supporters.

    This took one man, Journalist Peter Eyre to make it happen.

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  13. ''That would then make me one of the cruelest, inhumane creatures on this planet, to vilify two people who must be experiencing the worst possible pain a human being could be subjected to: lose a child to a molester and suffer the pain of being dubbed monsters by people like myself.

    So, as far as I can see we are before one of two scenarios: either they are horrible indescribable monsters or I am. No other option.

    The judgment of who is who, I leave it up to you. I ask you to read, for there is much to be read, and make the call yourself.''

    You hit the nail on the head Textusa, but I'm afraid I've made my choice and the answer is definitely you. You are the 'inhumane creature' you summed us so succinctly.

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  14. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_w-8JKaTohe4/S2rB_8Tl29I/AAAAAAAAVEE/TnzwiljP2Zk/s1600-h/perverting_the_course_of_justice.jpg


    Leicester Police 'assisting' the Mccanns in perverting the course of justice.

    Many thanks to 'Himself'

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  15. Anon,

    Don't be afraid of the choices you make please. Just face the consequences of having made them when the time comes. If that makes you afraid... well, once again, your choice.

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  16. Tweeting

    MASS EMAIL TO Alex.Salmond.msp@scottish.parliament.uk TOMORROW AT 4PM. SEND AS MANY AT YOU CAN AT THIS TIME TO LET HIM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL

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  17. Apologize above link is in relation to Hollie Greig.

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  18. http://twitpic.com/194ege

    too dark to search

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  19. http://thenew3as.blogspot.com/2010/03/there-is-man.html

    there is a man

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  20. Anon 5:38

    Kate: '.... She's going to be freezing ...'

    A very strange remark.

    I think Kate is very well aware of the things she says. She's suggesting Madeleine is alive. A dead child isn't going to be freezing.

    Kate the careful mother that didn't search.

    M.Nl

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  21. There will be a masss lobby meeting House of Commons at 2pm Tues 23rd March ROOM 15...if you want libel reform and FREE SPEECH...please be there. This is OUR LAST chance before elections.

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  22. http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1649525?UserKey=


    Gagging orders are now abused to keep the truth from the public.

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  23. Hi Textusa and Ironside!

    I am the anonyimous (there are so many!) to whom Textusa wrote a response to in "Reasons and Monsters". I could have put my real name, which is Rosaly, but chose not to. I am very thankful and honestly honoured to have deserved a whole new posting to my humble comment :)
    It may have sounded I consider the "Ms" innocents, but I don't have any grounds to utter any opinion. I have just been reading about the case since it all started with great interest and find it all very, very strange and misterious. Since I have a daughter myself (she is 10 now) it is inevitable for me to always feel extremelly sorry and sad with stories of violence, death and what have you, which sometimes occur to little girls. The Maddie case, Natash Kampush's and other similar stories made me be even more ALERT to my daughter's whereabouts and life outside the house etc. This is so terrible, to always have to doubt and feel afraid. And I live in a reasonably safe country, Norway. But, there are crazy people everywhere.
    Anyway, thanks again for answering me. I would like to express again my admiration to this blog.
    Keep up the good work!
    Rosaly

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  24. Anon (Mar 16, 2010 10:54:00 PM)

    Old age getting the better of me. Forgot to say that everytime I hit the nail on the head, which seem to be quite a lot according to you idiots, I know, for certain, that your, and those of those like you, thumb is usually right in-between.

    That makes the whacking so much more fun.

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  25. Good evening Rosaly..little girls need parents to love and protect them. None of us know what happened to Madeleine but we do know she was not abducted and that she died. Everyday I feel stronger and closer to finding the truth..Peter Drockton from Talkblog radio has said he will now cover this story more. He has no fear of the Mccanns or their Empire...Also there is movement here in Spain thanks to Mercedes and her tirelesswork.There will be more TV coverage and more talk of Madeleine and the cover up by her parents.

    Big hugs to your little girl xx

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