As we have informed our readers in a comment in our post “The help and the tennis”, we would not be publishing any more posts as we wanted this one to remain the entrance door to our blog for now.
Links to the previous “comments continue” posts:
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue II”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue III”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue IV”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue V”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue VI”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue VII”.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1030097954177208320
ReplyDeleteBugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @AlleyCat666x
It's blatantly obvious what Textusa is up to. If they're so desperate to stalk us, and have this stupid convo, then they should join Twitter, instead of cowering on their blog - which btw, I'll be reporting.
7:24 am - 16 Aug 2018
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After NT, and again sharing a behaviour, it seems that Mr Ben Thompson is going to report us.
Of course, NT/Insane and @TheBunnyReturns are free to stalk whom they like!
DeleteTo be very clear. On the #mccan there’s this tweeter called Nick Townsend.
ReplyDeleteNick Townsend opens in December 2012 a Twitter account, @nicktownsend12.
Then opens in October 2015 another Twitter account, @Ntown1976Nick.
Interestingly, those who were very quick to say that we were very poor researchers because we overlooked the fact that Nick Townsend was, supposedly, around a long time on Twitter have fallen silent about the fact the same tweeter had at least since October 2015 two accounts simultaneously and the oldest tweet they have found to show from either account was from June 2017 from the @Ntown1976Nick account.
The earliest tweet we could find from @Ntown1976Nick was earlier than that, it was on May 16 2017, which means that unless shown otherwise – a hint, on that date @Ntown1976Nick Nick Townsend says “I am unused to twitter and wasn't sure my first attempt had gone” – that for 7 months this account did not send any tweet.
And we would say that no tweet was sent by the @nicktownsend12 account either. So, it seems that until May 16 last year these two accounts were dormant.
To place this in time, the Portuguese Supreme Justice Court had already decided to both the appeal and to complaint from the McCanns. That’s how long ago Nick Townsend has been around.
By coincidence – or not – his first 3 tweets are to Colin Sutton, someone who Mr Thompson fully supports.
Only in Nov 4 2017 does Mr Thompson engage with @Ntown1976Nick Nick Townsend – the only Nick Townsend we know from that period of time.
From that day, up to April 23 this year, @TheBunnyReturns mentions @Ntown1976Nick 43 times in his tweets:
2017:
04-Nov - 4 times
2018:
15-Jan - 14 times
24-Jan - 1 time
16-Feb - 1 time
17-Feb - 12 times
21-Feb – 7 times
04-Mar - 2 times
23-Apr - 2 times
We would say that from the above – number of tweets and intervals between them – that @Ntown1976Nick couldn’t exactly be qualified as one of Mr Thompson’s “pet-obsession” as he lately has tried to make us believe that he is.
Especially if one takes into account that as of the end of November, the Maddie case became, shall we say, intense: Nessling was sentenced, Malinka tried to get his book in which he alleges he was tortured by the PJ funded and Gemma O’Doherty announced on Twitter her article on the Maddie case and then published in early February.
A very intense beginning of year, In fact so much so that it would be very unlikely for an insignificant tweeter such as @Ntown1976Nick to catch the attention of many. We, for ones, did not notice him. We were busy following the Gemma O’Doherty article then.
To be noted that it is after only one previous interaction with @Ntown1976Nick (on Nov 4) Mr Thompson is able to identify Nick Townsend as HonestBroker on Jan 15.
It’s on April 23 that something strange happens. @Ntown1976Nick (of October 2015) stops tweeting and @nicktownsend12 (of December 2012) steps up and starts to tweet but only after saying that he had been hacked and that all his previous tweets had been deleted.
Is this minimally believable? Evidently not.
For this to be true, it would mean that there had been 2 Nick Townsends tweeting simultaneously @Ntown1976Nick and @nicktownsend12 about the dogs and that would have been noticeable and no one noticed it.
So, we maintain that @nicktownsend12 has only appeared in April 2018.
Certainly, if @nicktownsend12 did tweet before that and was so popular, was so important and so “Grime-obsessed” then certainly there will be at least one screengrab of one of those previous tweets.
If we are shown any, we will evidently stand corrected and will publicly recognise that we’re wrong.
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ReplyDeleteBut if one reads attentively the tweet where @nicktownsend12 states he has been hacked and @TheBunnyReturns’ reply to it, one can see that Mr Thompson is recognising exactly that there was no hacking/deletion but just a simple switching of accounts by Nick Townsend from an active to a dormant one:
ttps://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/985210074464489472
nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Account hacked (but not deleted) and tweets (all) deleted (apart from this one, made after the hack). All those I was following also deleted. Unreal.
10:36 am - 14 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/988559183426531330
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @nicktownsend12
I call bullshit! Your @NTown1976Nick account still has all your shameful lies about Martin Grime showing. You were using it two days before you switched to @NickTownsend12 #McCann
4:24 pm - 23 Apr 2018
About Nick Townsend and Twiiter, until someone proves us wrong, we maintain our position that Nick Townsend has only tweeted from May 2017, first as @Ntown1976Nick and as of April this year, as @nicktownsend12.
As we have said before, Nick Townsend is the new “Orlov”. An absolutely insignificant character given importance by others to serve an agenda.
Unlike Orlov, who we believe to be indeed just one person, Nick Townsend is just a character, an account.
To understand what Townsend’s role is, we must refer to Walkercan 1000. Those familiar with the case, will remember that he claimed that he never visited or read any “hate site”.
What readers may not recollect, as only the most attentive noticed it, was that completely outside his character, Walkercan1000 promoted one and only one “hate-site” site which we will not name here.
That promotion was evidently done by making very derogatory comments about it, which by being ridiculed by Walkercan1000 it received a non-written quality grade of bona fide anti status.
Fascinating that only that site was graced with this honour by Walkercan1000. No other.
Likewise, Nick Townsend, an insignificant tweeter has been made to “become” the main anti-Grime opposer the internet has ever seen.
On Twitter, Nick Townsend basically attacks the reliability dogs in much the same way NT has done for years in his blog. And by coincidence – not – there he is attacked by those who are full, dedicated and enthusiastic NT supporters.
The anti-Nick Townsend pack gets then graced with what they seek: a non-written quality grade of bona fide anti status.
Nick Townsend is a tool. A credibility distributor, so to speak.
The next step was to have NT join the pack against Nick Townsend on his blog NT. The very evident attempt to achieve as well that non-written quality grade of bona fide anti status.
The tactic is simple: people are lazy and will not go and research NT’s blog so only the most recent posts count, and he knows that.
And when readers visit his blog, guess what is seen: he’s against Nick Townsend, that NT creation – with a “little” help from his friends – to make him as an obsessed anti-Grime pro. The most obsessed anti-Grime pro.
For some reason even though he says he doesn’t tweet he has asked the twitter world to help him out denouncing Nick Townsend on a post aptly called “A favour” published on Aug 11:
“Would any of you lovely people who tweet mind popping along to the interminable conversation between one ''Nick Townsend'' and the Rest of the World on the #mccann tag and drop this link in for me
[inserts link to one more of his pathetic blogs]
He is, if you haven't guessed, the stupid twat who is obsessed with Martin Grime.
I would do it myself but I don't tweet. Many thanks.”
Note, ““Nick Townsend” (who is obsessed with Martin Grime) and the Rest of the World”, nothing less than that. Wow, what an obsessed freak!
It seems that the lovely people of Twitter couldn’t care less and no one did him any favour, not even did the non-lovely people like Jules who promised she would spread his word but as far as we could see, she didn’t.
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ReplyDeleteThen on Aug 14 NT decides to write 2 posts dedicated to Nick Townsend – thinking since we said we were busy with summer stuff he could get away with it.
So, 3 posts dedicated to a character to who no one on the internet outside JATYK3 is giving any importance whatsoever
To be honest, as far as we have been able to perceive, this plan has failed miserably as no one outside NT’s gang has interacted with him. But we are not here to explain the phenomenon and not its failure or success.
Remember us saying that the only certainty one has to win a game is to play both the black and the whites? That is exactly what NT and his lick-spittle gang are trying to do. Play with both the black and white.
But then rigging a game is never winning. Rigged games never give points to any championship. On Townsend the JATYK3 members are only talking with themselves.
However, Townsend has become a VERY IMPORTANT piece on the board. He allows us to show readers the food-chain clearly.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1030074206212501505
ReplyDeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
What is this? 'pick fights with Nicholas & pretend you believe in the dogs'??? And 'dissing the dogs' seems to be based on following the line that is apparently taken on Not Textusa? Is that that without evidence the alerts cannot stand alone in prosecution? If so, yes. #mccann
5:50 am - 16 Aug 2018
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@JBLittlemore,
Please quote us where we have ever disagreed, as you imply we have, with the following: “Is that without evidence the alerts cannot stand alone in prosecution”.
Thank you.
@JBLittlemore has replied:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1030569811707879433
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Whoever you are, Textusa, I've been steered to your question asked of me on your blog. No wish to be impolite but if you read the tweet you refer to rather more carefully you'll note I was not referring to you/your blog but answering the Frog's comments. Thank you. #mccann
2:39 pm - 17 Aug 2018
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Thank you for your reply. The reason why we asked has to do with a tweet exchange starting with a reply from to this tweet by Mr Thompson in which he accuses us of lying and which we will address soon:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1030076769347555328
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @JBLittlemore
It's just lie after lie from Textusa. Take a look at this screenshot, apparently - according to Textusa, nobody has ever heard of Nick Townsend on Twitter, until recently. Notice how Textusa uses one of Nick's lies, to back up his own. I'll get to that next. #McCann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkuRWzyX0AAPxQc.jpg:large
6:00 am - 16 Aug 2018
Our apologies for the misunderstanding.
Mr Thompson says he knows that Nick Townsend is HonestBroker/Ferryman. This has been shown in the following comments in the blog:
ReplyDelete15 Aug 2018, 19:41:00: “Ben Thompson can just say that Nick Townsend is HonestBroker/Ferryman. How does Ben Thompson know this? Does he know personally Nick Townsend/HonestBroker/Ferryman? If so, from where?”
16 Aug 2018, 10:42:00: “What has surprised us, is how Ben Thompson a prominent alleged anti all these years, knows NT and HonestBroker. He will show us one day. When he’s ready.”
16 Aug 2018, 16:55:00: “Question remains, how did Mr Ben Thompson know that Nick Townsend (@Ntown1976Nick) was “HonetsBroker” a very well-known character from the pro-forums (very pre-Facebook times…)?”
So readers are aware, HonestBroker is a nick used when the Maddie case was dealt with on the internet only in blogs and forums. Facebook Groups or FB as a collective social media medium, was not used, as it served basically for interaction between people.
Of the forums, 2 were known as pro: JATYK (Just A Thought You Know) and STM (Stop The Myths). Having as their members many infamous names like bonnybraes (bb1), Sabot, Vee8, dcb, Jean-Pierre 150, Lily, Jayelles, Pedro Silva, Muratfan, lamplighter and honestbroker.
With FB and Twitter, these forums lost relevance, so when one mentions JATYK or STM one is going back in time, back to the beginnings of the case.
HonestBroker comes from those days.
Challenged with having to explain why he adamantly knows why he knows that Nick Townsend is HonestBroker, Mr Thompson engaged recently with @nicktownsend12 the following tweet exchange which started with a tweet from @JBLittlemore which s/he clarified that had nothing to do with us or with whoever Nick Townsend was.
Interesting to read:
#01 - @JBLittlemore:
What is this? 'pick fights with Nicholas & pretend you believe in the dogs'??? And 'dissing the dogs' seems to be based on following the line that is apparently taken on Not Textusa? Is that that without evidence the alerts cannot stand alone in prosecution? If so, yes. #mccann
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#02 - @TheBunnyReturns:
It's just lie after lie from Textusa. Take a look at this screenshot, apparently - according to Textusa, nobody has ever heard of Nick Townsend on Twitter, until recently. Notice how Textusa uses one of Nick's lies, to back up his own. I'll get to that next. #McCann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkuRWzyX0AAPxQc.jpg
[Attached picture to this tweet says the following:
“Textusa16 Aug 2018, 10:42:00
Who has ever heard of Nick Townsend on Twitter, until recently? No one.
Nick Townsend appears out of the blue with this tweet on April 14 2018, which informs that he was around but… all his tweets have been deleted! How convenient!
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/985210074464489472
nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Account hacked (but not deleted) and tweets (all) deleted (apart from this one, made after the hack). All those I was following also deleted. Unreal.
10:36 am - 14 Apr 2018”]
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#03 - @nicktownsend12:
Correct. And?
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#04 - @TheBunnyReturns:
...and, do you know why George Madden would mention you, and suggest you be called upon, on the 9th August 2012? I have in my possession, a very interesting conversation that clearly shows pro McCanns actively taking part in organised disruption - your name is mentioned 8 times.
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#05 - @nicktownsend12:
Who is George Madden? Or are you addressing JBL?
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#06 - @TheBunnyReturns:
No, I'm addressing you, but then you knew that. You also know who George Madden is. Would you like me to link you to his facebook page, to jog your little memory? 7
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#07 - @nicktownsend12:
I have no idea who george madden is.
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#08 - @TheBunnyReturns:
Then tell me, why did he ask if YOU should be called upon to help cause disruption? It's in black and white, Nick.
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#09 - @nicktownsend12:
Start by asking a legitimate question. I have never had communication of any kind with any 'George Madden'.
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ReplyDelete#10 - @TheBunnyReturns:
It was a legitimate question. Do you have problems reading? Let me try another approach. Do the names Wahootie, Trolls Nemesis, and Restless Native mean anything to you?
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#11 - @nicktownsend:
You have too little problem making things up.
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#12 - @TheBunnyReturns:
...and you squirm when given a question that's too close to home. Let me ask it again: Do the names Wahootie, Trolls Nemesis, and Restless Native mean anything to you?
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#13 - @nicktownsend:
Just left mildly amused at your idiotic burblings.
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#14 - @TheBunnyReturns:
Why can't you answer the question, Nick? See, it's a funny little trait you have, when you're backed into a corner, you squirm and swerve, to get out of it. You do it a lot. Do you recognise those account names? If it makes it easier, I can show you where YOU were mentioned.
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#15 - @nicktownsend12:
"Backed into a corner"? I have not the first clue what you are on about.
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#16 - @TheBunnyReturns:
So you're saying you've never heard of the account names I mentioned? Y/N Let me show you two little snippets:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dkvmap1XcAAJiPE.jpg
[Attached picture to this tweet says the following:
“The following Twitter interactions took place on 9th Aug 2012 and as can clearly be seen, they demonstrate without doubt that there is an orchestrated 'pro mccann' propaganda effort being co-ordinated on the #mccann twitter hashtag end elsewhere on the internet. Their aim is to attempt to drown out by any means possible, anything posted that either questions or provides opinion and/or information that contradicts the #McCann abduction story.
@Wahootie seems to be the 'head honcho' wielding the big stick at George Madden aka @Trolls_Nemesis who openly admits that he has another 15 accounts for the purpose as noted above.”]
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#17 - @TheBunnyReturns:
Tell me, Nick. How many people have you heard of in pro McCann land, who use the name Ferryman, other than you? Nobody? So, I ask again, why was your name suggested as someone to call when organised trolling and disruption were taking place?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkvnIwzXsAEdaIL.jpg
[Attached picture to this tweet says the following:
“RestlessNative_
need a ferryman
(No link - removed Twitter account following day but good old allmytweets has the tweets saved http://vww.aIImytweets.net/#RestIessNative_ )
wahootie retweet & reply to RestlessNative_
need a ferryman << then call the ferrymen
https://twitter.com/wahootie/status/233577905807036416”]
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#18 - @nick townsend12:
I used the name "ferryman" on UK Justice, but never anywhere else.
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#19 - @TheBunnyReturns:
I count 7 known pros being discussed, including Nigel Nessling and many of your other associates. The entire conversation is centred around causing distress to antis - all of the names involved were/are members of STM.
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#20 - @nicktownsend12:
Causing distress to ants? I'm sure the ants were terrified.
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#21 - @TheBunnyReturns:
Swerving again, and with a lousy attempt at humour. We'll leave it there, for now. Oh, one more thing, would you object to being asked these questions on camera? Your lot didn't seem to have an issue with Brenda being doorstepped. Would you feel the same if it happened to you?
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#22 - @nicktownsend12:
It never does to mistake boredom (and mild amusement) for anything else.
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#23 - Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns:
I take it from your reply, that you have no objection to being asked these questions in person? Gilet, was on the Justice forum with you as well, wasn't he.
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#24 - @nicktownsend:
Yes
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#25 - @TheBunnyReturns:
Jolly good, I'll look forward to putting them to you in person.
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Mr Thompson has, as the Portuguese say brought on one hand a handful of nothing at all and on the other absolutely nothing.
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"Mr Thompson has, as the Portuguese say brought on one hand a handful of nothing at all and on the other absolutely nothing."
DeleteAn exercise by Ben and Nick T to prove that Nick T has been around for years...
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ReplyDeleteWhatever Mr Thompson has tried to say, which we have failed to understand, must be true because:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1030207045163798528
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @SadeElisha86 @Anvil161Anvil16
This must be true, because it's on Twitter.
2:37 pm - 16 Aug 2018
Note how very conveniently, @nicktownsend12 “confesses” he’s Ferryman.
Did the reader notice how some replies from @nicktownsend12 could have been written by NT’s hand? Just saying…
We will continue to show who Nick Townsend supposedly is (as we said he could be one or many people) but most important, continue to show who some say he is and who he says others are.
THAT is what very revealing.
https://twitter.com/AndyFish19/status/1030513429470175237
ReplyDeleteAndy Fish @AndyFish19
Replying to @paultessterry
..bit of a 'taboo' the whole neglect thing it seems with lots of opinions divided! & that's fair enough, but personally I do believe poor M WAS neglected & she succumbed to her sad demise because of that & also being sedated! I'll always go with GA until proven otherwise! #McCann
10:55 am - 17 Aug 2018
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Mr Andy Fish,
Please quote, from the PJ Files or from his book, where Sr Amaral says or implies that Maddie died from over-sedation.
Thank you.
I’m disappointed by Anne Guedes description of GA as a Marialva and her references to his personal circumstances, particularly after she did such great work on the court translations. I’d also like to know if she still theorises that G disposed of M in a trash can, as that would undermine GAs theory and suggests the cadaver dog alert to the car could be wrong.
ReplyDeleteWe have been informed that we have had a request from one of the members of NT’s gang, on his blog:
ReplyDelete“Jules..18 August 2018 at 07:35
Afternoon Boss... If the lovely Jules could leave a comment here for Madam Textusa..
Almost every anti on #McCann has Nicholas blocked, as they do Frog, Bale and so on.. Now, if we all block him/them, who would challenge him/them..? Or is that your problem Textusa..? If i didn't know any better, and i was you, i would say that you over there sent him in, only i do know better and I'm not you.. Neither am i a vindictive nasty cretin (urban version) .. Could you also remove my full name from your blog please.. I've asked nicely..
Thanks in advance Chief.. Over & out..”
We find it strange that having Jules a Twitter account, she should choose to use NT’s blog to pass this message. She could also have commented in our blog. Instead chose to use Nt’s blog.
Jules, let us inform you that we cannot abide by your request. The reason is quite simple, Blogger does not have an editing possibility. To withdraw your name from the comments where we have put it would mean that we would have to delete each one of them and republish them and they would appear out of place.
However we must say that we don’t understand your request as the name you are now requesting to be withdrawn is the one you have used publicly to support publicly NT on Facebook as Admin of the Justice for Madeleine in posts such as this one you published on Aug 6 at 18:30:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JusticeForMadeleine/permalink/1833131930116206/
Then, you had no problem in using your full name publicly and publicly say: “Another great post from the marvel that is nottextusa… (grinning emoticon)”
A post that has at the moment a total of 13 likes/loves and 5 comments – in a group of 37,800 members.
As you have named yourself on FB we assumed no confidences were breached.
We would like to ask you to explain what the problem is, as you being a full supporter of NT and as we are saying that you are a full supporter of NT we can’t see where we have libelled you in any way. It would be really strange to find out that you don’t want to be associated with NT after all.
We have no problem from doing so from now on, and call you simply ‘Jules’.
If this does not satisfy you please submit a do not publish comment with your suggestions as to what you’d like us to do and why.
We must say that we find this to be counterproductive for you as it draws more attention to your full name.
No it's not a problem Tex sweetie.. Thanks for publishing my comment from earth in it's entirety. .
ReplyDeleteLove Julie Commits Chrimes.. x
37800 members! I'd hazard a guess at 10 or so hardcore anti truthers and 37790 mythical ghost members. The campaign is being ramped up but nice to know you are more than aware of the game that continues to be played.
ReplyDeleteOn my phone Justice now has 37,350 members.
DeleteFrom our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"I was wondering when NT changed from someone whose blog raised only a couple of comments to darling of JFM. NT and his gang of JFM admins and contributors have been congratulating each other on their superior intelligence regarding the evidence of the dogs, who understands scent the most etc.etc.. Jules, Nick and NT all congratulate Lesly on her various comments, so I was very surprised to read this from an NT post back in January: "Honorable Mention for outstanding fuckwittery beyond the call of duty, comes this feeble offering
Lesly Finn28 Jan 2018, 04:10:00
Yes you were right first time, Textusa.
"Searches of squares contaminated with the scent of the control (alive) subjects, ilicited no signals from any of the cadaver dogs."
So the dogs did not react in any way to surfaces that had been in contact with living people, and reacted ONLY to those that had been contaminated with deceased human tissue/substances.
A very interesting and well-constructed piece of research.
No, she WASN'T right first time, you fucktard. The dogs recorded false positives where they reacted to UNCONTAMINATED squares.
Seriously, some of you people need to consider making time to attend school at some point and not just to empty the bins.
Lesley, dear, don't comment on things you don't understand. Leave it to the grown-ups. "
Oh dear NT, I wonder if Lesly & co will think you're such a marvel now??
Here's the link to the post: http://nottextusa.blogspot.com/2018/01/barking-mad.html?m=1 😄"
FB Anon,
DeleteAlso, one mustn’t forget this precious gem:
https://twitter.com/DaveHallCoLtd/status/994267207759794182
DaveHall @DaveHallCoLtd
Replying to @scrantlings
What a total arrogant knob Blacksmith is, a self-promoting big-headed know-all who talks in riddles that always say nothing. Nothing whatsoever. He knows no more than you or me. Go back to 2007, BS, when you were relevant. You make Textusa almost legible. #shite #mccann
10:25 am - 9 May 2018
But they take it - and come back for more? Don't realise they're being played or surplus to requirements when the time is right.
DeleteFrom our "FB Anon":
Delete"Yes, despite their assertions that they are far more intelligent on the NT site than us dim-wits over here, they do seem to suffer with memory loss. Back in July we had this little love in from NT and his gang: Pseudo Nym19 July 2018 at 05:20
Afternoon all. I will return to this after work when I'll show just how Textusa has littered her comment to Lesly, with several blatant lies. Perhaps, as Carla knows they're lies as well, she might pull Textusa on them first. Fair's fair Carla.
For now though, I'd just like to offer a few words regarding Lesly.
Lesly joined admin with us not long after I created the Justice For Madeleine group. Lesly's knowledge and help back then was hugely appreciated. She remains to this day, a lady of integrity, honesty, varied talents and someone myself, and everyone in admin would describe as a friend. She has always been supportive and kind, no ego, no games, no nastiness, no wild baseless theories, just a straight talking, intelligent and caring person.
Don't let Brucie bring you on down Lesly. You're a fantastic person and someone I'm proud to call a friend. And Lesly responded: Lesly Finn19 July 2018 at 13:20
Thanks for the support and nice comments, Pseudo Nym. I think I may survive with a little help from my friends! xx. Wow, what a friend NT has been to Lesly, as back in January he was calling her a "Fucktard" and telling her not to comment on things she doesn't understand. Lesly must be one very forgiving person as I'm not sure I'd want a friend who called me a fucktard. Mind you, none of the female supporters of NT seem to object to him calling women bitches, whores and tarts. I wonder why it doesn't bother them?"
NT is now all for free speech, regardless of opposing views being expressed! What a turnaround.
DeleteWill he refrain from insulting anybody who challenges his opinions?
Or will his insults be reserved for certain theories?
He seems to keep re-positioning himself but with little consistency.
And still no reply from Nick on NT about the McCanns at Kelly’s bar!
ReplyDeleteWell, it seems that we will never get an answer to Kelly’s bar questions from Nick but we hope he’s told the PJ what he knows as in the PJ Files, with the exception of the first night, they ALWAYS dined at Tapas, at a responsible parenting distance from the children they checked regularly (why if they were sedated?)!
The marvel-anti.
ReplyDeleteWhen replying 13 Aug 2018, 21:26:00 to Anne Guedes regarding her comment at comment at 10 Aug 2018, 01:41:00 about what Justice we wanted for Maddie, it seems NT was not in accordance with our opinion. Here is what NT “marvel-man” thinks about us wanting justice for Maddie:
“[quoting blog] Her disappearance happened in Portugal, so, we would like the Portuguese justice system to answer the 6 questions we have put in our post “Maddie’s Pandora’s box”:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2014/09/maddies-pandoras-box.html [end quote]
NT: Here is one example where "Fuck off, loony" would be an appropriate response. In fact, let's suggest some responses for them, shall we?
[quoting blog] “1. Why did the case take so long to solve? [end quote]
NT: "Because there wasn't enough evidence, silly person"
[quoting blog] 2. Under what circumstances (with whom, why, when, where and how) did Maddie die? [end quote]
NT: "If we knew that, we wouldn't be sitting here, would we? "
[quoting blog] 3. If Maddie died in the apartment, why was body taken away from it? [end quote]
NT: "Who are you, exactly?"
[quoting blog] 4. If Maddie died in apartment and her body taken away, where was it taken to between 10pm – 4am and subsequently on the following hours and days? [end quote]
NT: "Look, we just solve the cases, pet. Why are you trying to make me draw triangles?"
[quoting blog] 5. What happened to Maddie’s body and who and why they helped for that to happen? [end quote]
NT: "Try it again in an Earth language, love"
[quoting blog] 6. Who protected the McCanns and why were they protected the way they were?” [end quote]
NT: "Who said they were? Can you get your foot out of the door please Miss?"
NT: [quoting blog] We only wish for these questions to be answered satisfactorily. [end quote]
"In other words, you want the case solving. Well, dur."
[quoting blog] We seek no punishment, as that is up to the legal entities to decide if there is to be any or not and for us to accept any decision it makes. [end quote]
NT: "Well, that's good to know. In which case, can you dismantle that scaffold and take your bloody chains with you? "
[quoting blog] Once these 6 questions are answered satisfactorily by the Portuguese justice system, we evidently hope that that the answers will be such an embarrassment to the UK that the only way it will have to save face will be to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law the 2 crimes committed in the UK: the fraudulent fund and obstruction of justice. [end quote]
NT: You mean, once the Portuguese have solved the case you want the UK to pick over the bones of what's left? Always assuming they can prove any of it, of course.”
It’s quite evident, dear readers that we are all before a truly marvel-anti. The anti messiah.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DaveHallCoLtd/status/592009795709833216
ReplyDeleteBut Hall/Orlov is Ben’s friend.
But Ben supports RM and supported Malinka’s book publication attempt, in which Malinka was accusing the PJ of malpractices.
Blacksmith supports RM.
Hall/Orlov hates Blacksmith.
McFadden theorises M died as the result of a nasty slap and that neglect is an alibi.
Ben theorises, if I recall correctly, that M was sedated and left on her own, neglected.
Ben is friends with McFadden.
Perhaps somebody could explain how these people accommodate such different views, but step outside these parameters and mention outside involvement helping the Mcs and the sky falls in for other people outside this group.
Ben didn't "support" Malinka's book. As I recall he only showed an understandable interest in it, and was against Tony Bennett and some CMoMM members attacking the book before they were aware of its content. He has also never said there was no outside involvement, in fact he's highlighted the outside involvement many times over. Perhaps "anon" would be good enough to explain why they have come here to deliberately misrepresent others, and Maria might let us all know why she has allowed such lies to go unchallenged.
DeleteHello Mr Thompson or whatever Lick-spittle gang-member you are,
DeleteYou know what is the main difference between telling the truth and lying? When one tells the truth, one doesn’t have to remember what one has said because one never gets caught in a lie.
But when one lies, then one has to remember what one has said. To avoid going into contradiction with what one has said before.
We were saving this for later but as you brought it up, let’s then see what @TheBunnyReturns (Mr Thompson) has tweeted with @DoisGaloes (Malinka). Do pay attention to the dates:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/947208435589935105
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @doisgaloes @markio01 and 2 others
Lie detectors aren't used by the British, or the Portuguese authorities, nor are they admissible as evidence in court in either country; that's the reason it will never happen.
12:51 PM - 30 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/947214897288568832
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @doisgaloes @markio01 and 2 others
If former Met detective @colinsutton is to be believed, and I have to say I DO believe him. The McCanns haven't even been interviewed over here by Operation Grange, nor were they ever going to be. If that's the case, then the truth won't be uncovered by the British.
1:16 PM - 30 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/947218375272476679
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @doisgaloes @markio01 and 3 others
It's never pointless. It just means that good, honest people, must work harder to expose the corruption that emerged from the UK. I'd like to hope you'd be onboard to help do so.
1:30 PM - 30 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/947225637311348737
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @doisgaloes @markio01 and 3 others
Exposing corruption is never easy, but it is possible. We have already done so much, and shown many the truth.
1:59 PM - 30 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/947236913114689540
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @doisgaloes @markio01 and 3 others
I understand that. Here though we have the power to expose it, and we do.
2:44 PM - 30 Dec 2017
And then on Feb 19 this year, when Malinka was a “part of the past”:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/965742110795235328
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @doisgaloes @SadeElisha86
Ah Sergey, I'm heading over to PdL in a couple of months. If you want to meet up and discuss what happened, and your thoughts on Metodo 3, I'd be happy to meet you. I have the blog, the FB group, and media contacts. Have a think about it.
4:17 PM - 19 Feb 2018
https://twitter.com/doisgaloes/status/965742461606821888
DOISGALOES @doisgaloes
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @SadeElisha86
Thanx ill pass! I got family now, only words ill give is through my book. Thanks for the offer.
4:18 PM - 19 Feb 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/965742871763615744
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @doisgaloes @SadeElisha86
No worries. If you change your mind, you know where I am.
4:20 PM - 19 Feb 2018
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If offering a blog, a 38,000 plus (allegedly) FB group and media contacts (“I have the blog, the FB group, and media contacts) to promote Malinka’s book is not openly supporting Malinka AFTER he had been exposed and everyone knew his book was all about making the PJ look really bad, then we don’t know what supporting is.
Please keep a log, and tell your friends to do the same, of what you say.
As said, when one tells the truth, one doesn’t have to remember but when one lies, one has to memorise what one has said.
Bringing over Zora's comment placed on FB on this subject:
Delete"Zora McCartney I’m not entirely sure what your anon’s point is here. Don’t we all have differing views as to the finer detail of what actually happened, beyond the basic shared tenet that M died and a cover up ensued? In such an enormous, multi-stranded affair, it stands to reason that the many thousands of us will have differing interpretations or theories on some of those ‘strands’. I’ve said often that I don’t feel able or willing to commit to one single theory of how death occurred and how exactly they set about covering up. There is either not enough hard evidence to commit fully to one theory, or not enough exculpatory evidence to discard others. In my view anyway. I have one theory which I favour but not to the exclusion of all others. Surely there is room for exploration of all possibilities? So I don’t think the differences of opinion of the people mentioned are a big deal. Unless it is to expose the hypocrisy of the fervour with which some of them have sought to discredit YOUR theory.
I still maintain that you have the absolute right to respond to the campaign against you, the single-issue blog which has obsessed over yours for years. I don’t necessarily have a problem with your theory, or anyone else’s, being challenged, rather the manner in which it is being done. It’s all been and continues to be a very ugly and divisive episode.
As for Ben - I’m upset by his conduct as I’ve made clear more than once for reasons which should be obvious to him (and it seems like Maureen above has been at the brunt end of his temper too). But in all fairness, I’m not really seeing the problem here either. Whatever Malinka’s intentions were, he WAS directly involved in the fallout one way or the other, innocent or up to his eyes in it. So if Ben was travelling to PDL, seeking to interview him isn’t necessarily supporting him and could have been a worthwhile venture. Also, when he mentions “exposing the corruption in the UK”, he does seem to be referring to outside involvement.
Not to defend him or undermine you. But I don’t like to be unfair either and don’t have an issue with his output when he sticks to the case rather than the people online around it. I just don’t see the merit in poring over his/their every utterance. Better to respond to the genuine counterpoints which relate to the case and ignore all else, rather than be dragged into this endless tit for tat."
July 27 Private Eye has the following article:
ReplyDelete“NEXT year sees the 50th birthday of Rupert Murdoch's super soaraway Sun. An official book is being written and huge celebrations planned under the supervision of the Dirty Digger’s second-favourite red-top, CEO Rebekah Brooks — who herself turned 50 two months ago.
So how many female reporters over 50 are actually employed there? The question was put to all media organisations in 2013 by Harriet Harman's “commission on older women”.
News International, as it then was, thought it would be a perfect post-Leveson PR wheeze to invite Harman in for a working breakfast to meet mature women who were employed by the Murdoch titles. While the Times and Sunday Times put up a good array, the Sun was represented by a single veteran feature-writer, who asked the attendant HR bods: “What am I supposed to say if she asks me how many over-50s the Sun employs as news and features writers? Because the answer is ONE — me!” While admitting this was true, the HR wallahs said they had now recognised the problem and were making plans to change the number of older women.
It has indeed changed. No discernible effort was made by the Sun news and features departments to recruit more female hacks of a certain age; and the writer who attended the Harman breakfast soon found herself taking voluntary redundancy, saying that she had been made to feel “like a useless old bag”. How many women over 50 does the Sun now employ as feature and news reporters, as it approaches its half century? None.”
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How many over 50 “single veteran feature-writer” women do the readers remember the Sun having? We remember only one, Antonella Lazzeri.
As said above, within News International only one was from the Sun.
And that one, it seems “found herself taking voluntary redundancy, saying that she had been made to feel “like a useless old bag”.
If one takes out the word “old” as age has nothing to do with excellence but leaves in “useless” then all points to being indeed Antonella Lazerri.
The “McCann curse” doing its thing again?
If anyone knows differently, we will obviously stand corrected.
https://twitter.com/AndyFish19/status/1030589345407938560
ReplyDeleteAndy Fish @AndyFish19
Andy Fish Retweeted Andy Fish
Sad, but I'll quote my own tweet here? And not sure about anyone else, but never seen or heard a satisfactory answer over the years? Anything to misdirect & misinform! Obfuscation & utter nonsense! What a load of garbage! #Textusa #Guff #McCann
Andy Fish added,
https://twitter.com/AndyFish19/status/1030505941651865601
Andy Fish @AndyFish19
Replying to @umweltbuerger
Well done Textusa sisters...? Help me out, will you? They go against almost all in the PJ files & G.A. They believe half of of Portugal 'were in on it' & M's corpse was stored in Murats car along with their core swinging theory which I just can't see any evidence for? #McCann ???
3:57 pm - 17 Aug 2018
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Mr Fish,
It seems that you’re unable to answer where has ever St Amaral supported the theory that Maddie died from over-sedation as per our comment at 18 Aug 2018, 11:44:00.
But it seems nothing is stopping you from continuing to make false claims about us. Please quote us where we have said that “M's corpse was stored in Murats car”.
We have said that it’s our opinion that the body was placed inside a vehicle parked in Murat’s property. We have said that we think that this vehicle, that was parked there for this purpose, belonged to the Ocean Club.
We have never said it was Robert Murat’s car. In fact, knowing the mysterious sympathy Praia da Luz has for the hoax, it could have been any vehicle on his drive, not necessarily from the Ocean Club, although we maintain our opinion that it was.
What matters is that you made a claim that we said “M's corpse was stored in Murats car”. Now prove it.
Thank you.
About who Nick Townsend is. From NT’s blog:
ReplyDeletejohn blacksmith16 August 2018 at 11:11
My, my.
Hello. It's no use providing links for the supposed "Textusa" since, as I've said repeatedly, it shares Bennett's inability to read properly.
For those on its site who genuinely wish to know about Townsend - and who in doing so, will discover the level of "Textusa's" research talents - you simply have to c&p to this link
https://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=12454
which will take you to a thread named "Just a tussle on twitter..."
The posts belong to Honestbroker1, described there as having been on STM since 2011. He writes about the FOI requests being discussed on twitter in the last few days without identifying the person making them.
Then, Honestbroker being honestbroker, writes:
"3. In answer to my second question, again..." Yes, folks '"MY" second question': the senile schmuck identifies himself as the person who sent the FOI request under the name of Nick Townsend which was discussed on twitter.
So there it is: a very simple proof showing that Townsend is self-admittedly HB,is still using HB on STM, has used it since at least 2011 and, as most of us already knew, regularly posts about Townsend tweet exchanges on STM a few days after they take place, as the page shows further down.
The gormlessness of Townsend in identifying himself is equalled only by the gormlessness of a "Textusa" whose research can uncover a secret conspiracy to conceal the death of a child but can't locate an identification proof that took all of ten minutes to discover.”
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No question about that HonestBroker does recognises he was the one sending the FOI.
However, we don’t know from where Blacksmith comes to the conclusion that means Nick Townsend did it but he is quite adamant that it is: “So there it is: a very simple proof showing that Townsend is self-admittedly HB”.
The link provided by JBS does indeed take the reader to a STM (Stop The Myths) thread. A thread called “Just a tussle on twitter ....”.
Not only is it a ONE page thread but it is a ONE post only thread. And posted by honestbroker1 on Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:19 am.
So it is quite misleading for Blacksmith to say “The posts belong to Honestbroker1” as there is only one.
We didn’t know Blacksmith was such an attentive reader of STM, We are not and we didn’t even realise that it was still active so long it has been since we have last visited it. Like it’s twin sibling JATYK2, it has absolutely no importance in the Maddie world.
Do note the date of the post, not an old post but a very recent one. In fact 2 days later NT would publish a post on his blog about this FOI. And then a day afterwards he would publish another.
On the 15th he has this to say about said FOI:
“Yesterday, I posted an FOI request and response on the topic of the South Yorkshire Police sniffer dogs who went to PdL. Most of the questions centre around the dog Eddie.
This request was [bold] NOT [end bold] made by Nick Townsend
Just to have it handy for reference, here is that request and response again:”
So to be clear:
On the 15th, NT says (on his blog) that the FOI is NOT by Nick Townsend and a day later, on the 16th, Blacksmith (on NT’s blog!!) shows that as the FOI is from HonestBroker then it IS from Nick Townsend.
So which is it?
These 2 can’t get their act straight on Nick Townsend.
This discrepancy between these 2 individuals in particular (NT and Blacksmith) about who Nick Townsend is, is very relevant as we will soon see.
And replying to Blacksmith who had just contradicted what he had said the day before, NT says this:
Delete" Not Textusa16 August 2018 at 12:03
Staggering, isn't it?
This made me weep with laughter
"We maintain that Nick Townsend has only appeared on the scene in April this year. Shortly after the Orlov incident."
DishonestbrokenDontPaytheFerryman could not be easier to spot if you glazed him in honey then dropped him into a wasp enclosure. He could be dressed in a Little Bo Peep outfit and calling himself Dolores and he would still be fucking obvious the first time he tweeted"
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And we agree with NT, so very easy to spot. But we didn't spot him on "the first time he tweeted" but rather on the first time other people decided to comment about him.
Then, it was very easy to see who indeed Nick Townsend was, or best, what was the purpose of his existence.
2 different FOI requests and answers..
DeleteNicholas claims he did one himself..
Posted on #McCann a 1,000 times in the last month..
Jules,
DeleteAre you calling Mr Thompson a liar? Or are you falling out with NT (or Mr NT as you defferentially call him)?
NT says, like you say that one FOI was not submitted by Nick Townsend and Blacksmith has proved that HonestBroker on STM has submitted one, so we have one from HonestBroker and another from someone else.
Nick Townsend has recognised that he has submitted a FOI. That means that one was by Nick Townsend and the other by HonestBroker and that proves that HonestBroker and Nick Townsend are not the same person, as adamantly stated by Mr Thompson and Blacksmith.
About the FOI having been brought up over 1,000 times on the #mccann on Twitter we think you are wrong. It may have been more than that.
You see, when Nick Townsend first called our attention on Jul 19, he had only 765 tweets and 12 following and 11 followers.
Today he has 1,879 tweets and 17 following and 16 followers. We would say that the number of followers then and now show his insignificance.
That means that in the last month he has tweeted 1,114 times. If one adds just your tweets to him, then we would say that 1,000 times is very little. Maybe double that figure?
If you are earning by the tweet, then that will impact significantly your salary.
By the way, we suggest that you read the comment that we will be publishing immediately after yours. We are indeed interested in the frequency with each the FOIs (note the plural) Nick Townsend has submitted. And other things he has submitted on threads in forums (note the plural again).
We love the way you address NT as Mr NT. Like he is your employer or something like that.
Well, if he is your employer then one does owe respect to one’s employer, doesn’t one?
From NT’s blog and from NT’s own mouth:
Delete“[quoting our blog] Likewise, Nick Townsend, an insignificant tweeter has been made to “become” the main anti-Grime opposer the internet has ever seen. [end of quote]
He is, you dozy twat. He has devoted thread after thread after thread on several forums to going on endlessly about the man, he has used Freedom of Information requests, he literally never stops going on about him. And he has been doing this for years. The only one not to notice is you.”
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About him using Freedom of Information, as far as it was possible to ascertain he has submitted only one, from which, according to himself, he obtained the same (apparently standard) response that HonestBroker got from his:
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1029355003742445568
“nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @Jules1602x @Bale2N and 13 others
The foi answer published by Jules above is word-for-word the answer supplied to me by SYP. A trip made in January 2006 was reported in the press (forthcoming) in December 2005. The PDR covers the period 2005-2006, written in 2006 to cover that (retrospective) period.
6:12 am - 14 Aug 2018”
That makes ONE FOI. Can you please inform us of any others?
And if Nick Townsend has, as you say, “devoted thread after thread after thread on several forums to going on endlessly about the man” and “literally never stops going on about him” it will certainly easy for you to provide links to just a few of those threads (plural) on those forums (plural) before Jul 19 this year (even after that date it would be interesting to see) so that readers, ours and yours, can fully understand this man’s obsession with Martin Grime.
Thank you.
To our readers, we anticipate his typical answer that goes along the line of “I could go into details and explain the whole thing, but I think it's funnier to let you continue making a total plank of yourself”.
When one has nothing to show, one tries to laugh it off. So blatant, as Nick/Anon would say.
Does anyone know what happened to Nick Townsend on Twitter?
DeleteHe has gone AWOL and hasn't tweeted in the last 24 hours. We hope he's ok.
Nick, if you stopped because you have been exposed, please don't. That hasn't stopped the other members of NT's Lick-spittle gang to continuing with their act.
You are obsessed with Martin Grime, remember?
Hiya.. Well if you can call me being head brew taster and Senior brow mopper employed, then i suppose Mr NT is my employer.. Anyway, back to the FOI.. The FOI Nicholas posted on twitter (the edited one) isn't the same one my employer posted on his blog.. As for Nicholas's whereabouts, i tweeted him yesterday morning but he's gone missing along with Frog..The mystery deepens..
DeleteJules,
DeleteDon't think we find you funny.
The Frog has tweeted 9 hours ago:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1031167703074201600
Do you agree with Mr Thompson and Blacksmith that Nick Townsend and HonestBroker are the same person, or with NT who has said the 2 FOIs were submitted by different people so Nick Townsend cannot be HonestBroker.
Answer objectively, please.
I’ve got a bit lost on the 2 different FOI requests
Delete1 said to be from Townsend
1 on NT blog is a different one? Who requested the info?
NT disagrees with Ben and JBS who say Townsend is also Honestbroker?
NT says he isn’t.
Have I got it right? Lol
Jules has replied but we won’t publish her comment in full as we don’t feel her levity is appropriate.
DeleteBelow the relevant snippets from her reply, in quotes what she actually has said in it:
- NT “posted an FOI request; answers but it’s not the same one Nicholas aka honestbroker posted on twitter..”
- “2 very different FOI requests and answers..”
- “Now, when” NT “asked one of his employees to ‘do him a favour’ that’s when honestbroker started posting about the ‘other’ FOI that” NT “posted..”
- “Not only that, the link” NT “posted also gave access to the full FOI request and answers to Nicholas’s edited version ..”
- “Frog also tweeted and confirmed that Nicholas was in fact honestbroker..”
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FOI #1:
“I would like to request the following under the FOI Act:
1. Which cases has Eddie the Springer spaniel sniffer dog been used in within the South Yorkshire Force area over the last five years? Please provide a breakdown for each year.
2. Which cases has Eddie the Springer spaniel sniffer dog been used in outside the South Yorkshire Force Area over the last five years? Please provide a breakdown for each year.
3. What does the South Yorkshire constabulary charge for Eddie the sniffer dog’s services?
4. Please could you provide a breakdown of the fees and expenses charged for each case Eddie the Springer spaniel sniffer dog has been deployed in outside the South Yorkshire area in the last three years?
5. To whom is money made payable for the services of Eddie the sniffer dog?
6. Who owns Eddie the sniffer dog?
7. What training did Eddie receive to assist him in his duties?”
FOI #2:
“Dear [name deleted],
With regard to your request in relation to:
"1. Can you confirm that the cadaver dog "Eddie", formerly a police dog under
dog handler and dog instructor Martin Grime, now retired from your force, was
sent to America to be trained on human cadavers and be upgraded to "enhanced"
victim recovery dog?
2. Can you confirm that South Yorkshire Police uses, or has used, an American
device for trapping scents, a "Scent Transfer Unit" or "STU100" in the
training of its cadaver dogs?"
FOI #1 comes from NT and he says that it was NOT from Nick Townsend.
The link that NT has published in his blog where this FOI has supposedly comes from [https://neighbourhood.southyorks.police.uk/foi/disclosurelog/sniffer-dog-deployments-costs] says when accessing it “Your connection is not secure. The owner of neighbourhood.southyorks.police.uk has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website” so we didn’t visit it, and recommend that readers don’t as well.
One certainty, it isn’t an official website of the South Yorkshire police.
(Cont)
(Cont)
DeleteFOI #2 is from STM (link provided by Blacksmith) published by HonestBroker and which, according to Blacksmith proves that HonestBroker is Nick Townsend because HonestBroker says in the STM post (our caps) “3. In answer to MY second question, again…”
Nick Townsend’s name does not appear in the STM’s post linked by Blacksmith.
FOI #2 was the FOI Jules tweeted (a 1,000 times?):
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1029341511870304257
About which Nick Townsend had the following to say: “The foi answer published by Jules above is word-for-word the answer supplied to me by SYP.”
As the post has both the FOI and the answer, and Nick Townsend only speaks of the answer, it’s evident that the answer received by HonestBroker is identical to the one he, Nick Townsend, received but the FOIs are different.
Otherwise, why not just say “the above is what I sent and received” instead of focusing solely on the answer?
So, apparently, we have 3 FOIs on the dogs, FOI#1 (NT), FOI#2 (JBS) and the one we haven’t seen yet, from Nick Townsend.
Maybe when he returns he will show it to us.
Isn’t it strange that now that he has gained visibility to himself and to his FOI he does a runner? Saying that he’s gone because he got caught lying is laughable, as we have lost count the times the shameless have been caught lying and continue their act regardless. Nick Townsend would be a first.
And if FOI#2 was indeed what Nick Townsend had indeed sent and received, it would be even more pathetic than the dialogue between @TheBunnyReturns and @NickTownsend12 where Nick Townsend “confesses” he’s Ferryman (our comment 18 Aug 2018, 11:37:00) because it would be Nick Townsend confessing, very conveniently that he was HonestBroker.
The desire to prove that HonestBroker is Nick Townsend is such that even the Frog has become a reliable source of information about the identities of the people behind pro-nicks.
Aren’t these people showing a little too much connectivity between each other and showing to be in possession of too much inside information?
Thanks for posting 'snippets' of my comment.. I didn't mention Mr Blacksmith's link in my comment so not sure how that helps the situation.. In a nutshell someone, God knows who sent a FOI request to SYP, and Nicholas sent one too but with different questions.. Why don't you go on the UK justice forum or stop the myths for a lightbulb moment.. Any sign of Frog yet..?
DeleteJules,
DeleteThank you for agreeing with us that there’s no connection between Nick Townsend and FOI#2.
And that Blacksmith is absolutely wrong when deducing from FOI#2 the following: “So there it is: a very simple proof showing that Townsend is self-admittedly HB [HonestBroker]”.
About the Frog, please stop bringing the character to our blog. Ask your friend who has tried to contact the Frog via DM, she may be the one who may have the most recent news of the Frog.
We bring the Frog over when we think the Frog is useful for the truth in the case.
As we have said, we don’t subscribe in any way the Frog’s opinion on the facts of the case. However, we have come to understand the reasons why the Frog is, or was on the internet.
And understanding that, it tells us that the Frog doesn’t do runners. The Frog may have been silenced or may have said all the Frog wanted to say, and satisfied that it didn’t fall into deaf ears, has simply gone away.
It's a little hard to understand Jules' comment/snippets when the 'frivolity' has been removed. That's not to say I enjoy her humour...
DeleteAnonymous 20 Aug 2018, 17:30:00,
DeleteHere it is:
"Jules..19 Aug 2018, 23:14:00
But how many times has Frog tweeted in the last 2 days..? I think you've missed the point Tex.. Let me break it down..I can explain it to you, but i can't understand it for you.. Here goes.. Mr NT posted an FOI request & answers but it's not the same one Nicholas aka honestbroker posted on twitter.. 2 very different FOI requests and answers.. Now, when Boss asked one of his employees to 'do him a favour' that's when honestbroker started posting about the 'other' FOI that Boss posted.. Not only that, the link the Boss posted also gave access to the full FOI request and answers to Nicholas's edited version ..Frog also tweeted and confirmed that Nicholas was in fact honestbroker.. If there's anything else i can help you with then don't be afraid to ask.. "
From our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"Doesn't telling someone not to comment go against these sentiments from NT's post entitled Freedoms?
"So, in summary, Textusa, and this applies to your sidekicks too, people are free to associate with whoever they choose. They are free to write whatever they choose. They are free to write it wherever they choose, and the page owner has the right to publish or not as they desire. You can argue with the content, but not with a person's innate right to express themselves."
I do hope this doesn't mean NT is a hypocrite? Because we all know how much NT's gang, especially Sade, hates a hypocrite!!"
https://mobile.twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1030244191563988993
ReplyDeleteMadeleine CaseTweets@McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @PrivatePsy and @michaelgwaltz
I've texted this to Brian Kennedy, surely he would like to know he is being talked about
1:05 am · 17 Aug 2018
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Why does Isabelle McFadden have Kennedy’s phone number?
He’s still one of the Maddie’s Fund directors.
Isabelle McFadden has quite a lot of numbers in her phone book by her admission, many of which raise questions. I had to laugh when I seen a responding tweet saying "is there anyone in this case you haven't spoken to". She claims she's spoken to former Scotland Yard detectives, PJ officials including Pedro do Carmo, the people behind Malinkas book and all that palava, Brian Kennedy (had many private conversations with him at the start)etc.
DeleteIn essence she's apparently been in contact with people that wouldn't give us the regular people the time of day in connection with this case!
Recently I saw a tweet to the effect of 'Isabelles job is to focus on the McCann's and lead people away from those who have helped cover it up'.
Food for thought considering.
http://www.thejournal.ie/journalist-gemma-odoherty-announces-she-will-run-for-presidency-4190255-Aug2018/
ReplyDeleteTo those thinking that our engagement with Nick Townsend is a blog / forum war, we would like to repeat that it’s not.
ReplyDeleteWe have no engaged in personal attacks other than calling liars liars and thinking that Sr Amaral’s family should be absolutely out of bounds to those who shamelessly continue to perpetuate the hoax.
We have been factual. And will continue to be so.
We have been called stalkers. We assume we are. We stalk the lies both inside the PJ Files as outside them in this case. But then, aren’t all REAL truth-seekers stalkers of lies?
If the reader believes that there is a cover-up in the Maddie case as we do, then the reader, like us, believes that one fundamental area of this cover-up is the internet.
No one wears t-shirts saying “I’m being fooled” or “I’m fooling”. Everyone has been fooled and no one has been fooled knowing they were being fooled.
On the internet there are lot of people who should be wearing a “I’m fooling” t-shirt but instead fool others by wearing an “I’m being fooled” one.
We are currently showing and connecting the dots of the cover-up on the internet. Far, very far from being a blog/forum spat. In fact, those trying to convince that it is, are those wearing a t-shirt when they should be wearing another.
As always, we are only showing the dots and showing how we think they are connected. We feel this is as important to understand as it is to understand the falsities that are in the statements in the PJ Files.
As always, we will leave it up to the readers to decide whether we are on the right track or not.
The Lick-spittle gang has a member begging for attention and has been jumping for some time on some kind of trampoline, doing somersaults and shouting “look at me, look at me!”.
ReplyDeleteLike one should do with a 3yr old throwing a tantrum in supermarket, we have ignored this character no matter how much noise the character makes. And can continue to make for all we care.
However, what this character has said recently cannot be ignored:
“But I do agree with others who have said they don't think this Bale is the original Walkercan- or at least not all of the time.”
This does not rank in stupidity with Nick/Anon’s Kelly’s bar blunder but is pretty high on the scale.
This character is saying both that Bale is sometimes Walkercan as well as saying that it’s a shared account, something that we have defended happens with accounts like @NickTownsend12.
We agree with this character and think Walker/Bale twitter account(s) have more than 1 person because sometimes, very occasionally, they present spelling errors.
Walker was always very rigorous on grammar and spelling. An OCD behaviour he shares with NT.
In a comment 19 August 2018 at 09:45 on NT’s blog Blacksmith has said the following:
ReplyDelete“The author who, like Bale-Walker, is not English was known as Tony Winter and a JATYK and STM inner-core habitué.”
Important to note, Blacksmith subscribes that Bale is Walker.
But how does Blacksmith know “Bale-Walker”, as there’s nothing in his syntax to suggest that?
Why dont you call time on all this internet bickering and flaming?
DeleteIf others want to do it,then fine,but you should keep a dignified silence in my view.
Just concentrate on finding evidence please.
Anonymous 20 Aug 2018, 17:56:00,
DeleteYes, we know you would. You've realised what's coming. Pulling a Winter out of the hat has done you no good.
No use replying that "you" don't know what we're talking about, we know you do.
17:56
DeleteWe 6 Textusa readers have come to trust her editorial decisions...
Can't wait to see what's coming and making NT's gang so scared!
A correction to the comment above...
DeleteWhen we said "But how does Blacksmith know “Bale-Walker”, as there’s nothing in his syntax to suggest that?" what we meant to say was: "But how does Blacksmith know “Bale-Walker” is not English, as there’s nothing in his syntax to suggest that?
https://twitter.com/xxMichelleSxx/status/1031577595782090752
ReplyDeleteCan anyone please explain how this helps find the truth about what happened to Maddie?
Daily, the Maddie world on the internet is earning more and more the epithet of haters.
Before someone calls out that we have insulted the McCanns, we have. Do check the dates when we did it.
We have already said there are things we regret doing, and that is one of them. And have said that we haven't deleted them from the blog because our mistakes are part of our history.
Then we were intoxicated. We were fooled then and have no problems in recognizing that we were fooled, then. But have since moved on, we have evolved.
Now we are watching some making a real effort to intoxicate others with hatred for the McCanns.
I would like to be kept off the "Forum spats" thank you - What I say is my business especially when it's OFF TAG - It was a JOKE - Hardly hate fuelled and I won't be dictated to, with RESPECT, By anyone.
DeleteFeel free to scroll on by if you don't like my OFF TAG posts - I speak to whom I wish and say whom I wish but as a bit of good faith I have deleted the comment - On Tag my posts are about the case and Madeleine ALWAYS - A little girl who deserves JUSTICE - Please remember I am an adult and PRO MADELEINE - But off tag? Again, I'm an adult and never even swear but I will keep being me. I do not hate anyone and ALWAYS help people and actually I also tell others to calm down if they're angry with them did you know that? No? Well do your homework before you judge - It goes both ways. Thank you - Silver doe.
Silverdoe,
DeleteWe are aware that you have defended us in the past.
It’s not up to us to judge your options and it’s up to us to respect them and your independence.
If the cap fits, one has to wear it. When one feels that the cap doesn’t fit, one has one of 2 options: ignore it or protest.
You have protested and we feel your protest to have been a genuine and honest. And that’s why we’re replying to your comment.
First, let us explain why we chose your tweet: it happened by chance.
Your tweet appeared, and when we clicked on it, it was the last of a series which started with this tweet on the #mccan:
https://twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/1031106636860088320
What's your favourite picture of Gerry glowing with self-satisfaction, overflowing with hubris? Here's mine (Whitehouse.pose = close second)
This tweet was followed by the following ones most of which on the #mccan:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031203040345448449
It's so difficult to choose a "favourite" Gerry #McCann photo. I think this one captures him beautifully in a moment of self adulation.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031203630358167552
Then of course there was this one. A very exciting day for Mr #McCann; It was his first line up, since David Payne's stag do:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031204546943614976
Of course the wedding nearly didn't happen. A source close to the family, spoke of a third wheel in the relationship, although the mystery other, was never revealed: #McCann
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031205959375495168
After David Payne's wedding, Gerry #McCann became agitated. Reports of him snapping at super-fans started to surface, especially around the time of their devastating loss to Goncalo the Great.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031208971737223174
Ahh, here's the Whitehouse photo - now isn't that VERY interesting: #McCann
https://twitter.com/may_shazzy/status/1031344273898135552
One inch wonder
And then, came your tweet, which we believe you deleted and we thank you for having done so.
So, as you can see, the “theme”, factually vacuous, was completely within the #mccann, even though your tweet wasn’t.
But what if all of them were outside the tag? Is the justice we feel is due to Maddie confined to Twitter and there only to the #mccann? We don’t think it is.
Once a statement is made on a public medium and able to be picked up by any member of the public, then it is public. We write outside the tag and are fully aware that what we write is public.
A joke made about the McCanns is as funny or as tasteless whether it’s made within the tag or outside it.
Now, humour is a very sensitive issue. One loves to laugh but no one likes to be laughed at. Humour may cause smiles but if it has a victim it hurts and that pain is felt by those who have empathy, even if only in the slightest way, with the target of the joke.
The group may laugh but the victim not only doesn’t find it funny as feels the pain. That’s why demeaning humour is a very effective way to spread hatemongering.
So by providing a continuance to the demeaning pointless humour against the McCanns, you helped, even if innocent and unwittingly, spread the hatemongering against the McCanns.
You may not be influenced by it but we ask you to read these tweets as a newcomer to the case and what would be your reaction? That the McCanns were hated (and aren’t they?). The internet is indeed filled with people who hate the McCanns.
And that means those who are seeking to stoke up the hatred against the McCanns have REALLY filled the internet with hatred for the McCanns. They are achieving their goal.
As we said, your tweet was chosen by chance. And we found your protest to be genuine, reason why we’re replying.
If chance had driven us to the tweets of those who tweeted before you, those we know are hatemongering on purpose, we wouldn’t be replying.
I do not encourage hatemongering but with the infighting etc and the case as heavy as it is a chuckle can be a light relief sometimes... I will fight my corner and I stand in Madeleine's corner I always make sure I am as neutral as can be though of course that can get difficult to be so but I try to - I welcome newcomers as I still feel like one myself, it's not easy especially when there's angst between fractions I also encourage newcomers to ask questions and I offer links or help when I can.
DeleteWe may differ on what off/on tag means, but I did delete the comment with respect but I will still be me I'd never be anyone else but to be honest with you I wish some forums had the same ethics as it may deter newcomers from there too perhaps? Thank you for replying, have a nice day/evening. Silver doe
In my humble opinion, anyone who posts a link on Twitter to the vile stalker Not Textusa (NT) is no seeker of truth. This is not directed at Silver doe, but generally.
DeleteWe are going to continue with the “Nick Townsend” saga. But before we do, we would like to point out where is the debate currently at: did Nick Townsend submit one FOI, if so which one.
ReplyDeleteDoes it matter? No, it doesn’t and our opponents have fallen for the trap we have laid out for them, Nick Townsend is a nobody in the case.
If he had submitted FOI after FOI, filled thread after thread after thread on multiple forums our opponents would have shown proof of life of him all these years.
Instead, they are trying to prove that Nick Townsend in all these years has submitted FOI#1, FOI#2 or FOI#3. A SINGLE FOI.
And on Twitter he has less than 20 followers (on Jul 19th he had less than a dozen followers).
It is very clear that Nick Townsend only existed in 2 dormant twitter accounts until May 2017 and even though he changed accounts, he only became noticed after there was “a marketing campaign” to promote him.
So here’s the last chance to our opponents: show us proof that Nick Townsend had 1/10th of the importance you tried to tell all he had.
So, we’ll use an expression that has been so dear to NT through the years: we’ll wait.
PS: remember that character who said that Bale/Walker was the same person only some times? This is what that same character had to say about Walker:
“From what I can remember, Walkercan never engaged with anyone other than his broken record, scripted tweets of 'I'll wait' and the like or just plain abuse.”
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1030943759339610117
ReplyDeleteMichael Walker@Bale2N
Never ceases to amaze me how the #McCann Bum Hate Trolls bust their gut to stalk our every word. Its 24/7. They must have something to hide? Paedophilic activities?
11:25 PM · Aug 18, 2018
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Michael Walker seems to be back. On Bale2N. No need to debate anymore about if Walker is Bale, as if there had been any question about it.
'To stalk out every word.' Where have I heard that before? Ah, yes: Insane/Not Textusa - same syntax as Bale2N/Walker.
DeleteAs we have seen, it no one has been able to prove that Nick Townsend (Nick T) existed before May 2016.
ReplyDeleteOther than there being 2 dormant Twitter accounts.
Those who have attempted to link NickT to one or 2 FOIs before that, have forgotten the important detail that a FOI is an official document and so it’s required to have the full identity of its author.
We have the example of Mr Tony Bennett who has submitted various FOIs and we all know he has. He has made it public knowledge and has shown them with his name on it.
So, for a person to know that Nick T submitted a FOI, can only mean one of 2 things: they either know the real identity of who Nick T is or the FOI is signed by one Nick Townsend.
We have only seen “name withheld” in the post published in the STM forum (link provided by Blacksmith). It would be strange to protect the name of a Nick Townsend who has chosen to use his name publicly on both his twitter accounts.
So, the only logical solution for those saying Nick T has submitted FOIs years ago, is for them to know his identity.
But then it has to be asked, why protect the identity if FOIs become public documents so those submit them know beforehand that they are exposing their names publicly? And why should they protect their names if the questions they put to the police are genuine?
Fascinatingly, a link provided by one of the restricted group of people who know exactly who Nick T is, the Frog, on March 9 2018 about this FOI no longer works:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/972203384378929154
https://www.southyorks.police.uk/foi/disclosurelog/sniffer-dog-deployments-costs
The tweet was March 2018. The SY page which says not available gives published date of non-existent page as July 13. If the original had an error, there should be a corrected version. If it was correct, why remove it?
It seems that this alleged to be a very prolific user of the internet for years has one very small footprint on it and the one it has is very suspicious.
We hope that by now we have proven that Nick T is a mere creation. That is the starting point to understand his importance.
All those who have subscribed and promoted this alleged enormous importance on the internet knew they were pushing yet another hoax, the “Nick T hoax”.
All you've proved, is that there are no level you won't stoop to. Ask JBL how long they've known about Nick Townsend, or any anti who has been around for years. You won't, because you know you'll be proved wrong.
DeleteAs far as we could ascertain, the oldest interactions between @JBLittlemore and Nick Townsend were the following:
DeleteOldest tweet from @JBLittlemore mentioning the word “Townsend”:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/987419344001994752
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @FragrantFrog @AndyFish19
Look on my TL & exchanges with the delightful Nick Townsend off tag. Never stated FBI accredited before PdL but trained in US - yes. Feel free to rummage on my TL to find .. ; ) #Mccann
12:54 pm - 20 Apr 2018
Oldest interaction by @JBLittlemore with @Ntown1976Nick:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/926817814849220608
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Ntown1976Nick @TheBunnyReturns
Eddie was not trained on pork. Kindly show evidence of where it is confirmed he was. #Mccann
7:26 am - 4 Nov 2017
On that day on Nov 4, just like with @TheBunnyReturns, 4 interactions. The next one would be, also just like @TheBunnyReturns, on Jan 15 this year:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/952916653091819525
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Ntown1976Nick @TheBunnyReturns
Do you know the difference between pork and un-eviscerated pig carcasses? Do you understand how that is relevant to the process of decomposition? No and NO, it seems. #Mccann
6:53 am - 15 Jan 2018
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JBL,
Have you known Nick Townsend before the mentioned above?
If so, could you please provide, if possible, links to your interactions with him?
Thank you.
PS: Please note, we were not the ones dragging you over to this issue. It is quite obvious to know who has even, though his comment has come in as Anonymous.
By coincidence – NOT - @TheBunnyReturns has published the following tweets:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031946366908604418
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Still reckon Nick Townsend was "invented" by one of us this year, Textusa, you complete and utter fraud! Here he is 8 years ago, donating a tenner to convicted paedophile, and pro #McCann, Nigel Nessling: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/vee8 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlI1fJ5WsAARkVZ.jpg
9:49 am - 21 Aug 2018
Picture attached to the above tweet says the following:
Nick Townsend 8 years ago
All the very best with your run, Nigel Nick
£10,00
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https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031947778778451969
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @shercokholmes7
Textusa is off his head, and showing just how much. I could name a whole list of antis who have been aware of Nick Townsend for many years. How does Textusa think I found out who he is. His lies are spiralling out if control now, but that's what liars do when cornered.
9:54 am - 21 Aug 2018
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https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031949061035831296
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @shercokholmes7
Still not satisfied, Swingstein? How about this one from 2013. Honest Broker IS Nick Townsend, a fact that was and IS well known. Now stop trying to frame people, you vindictive little con-artist: #McCann https://twitter.com/BonnyBraes1/status/342996199202254849
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlI3jdJWwAAVfGY.jpg
10:00 am - 21 Aug 2018
Picture attached to the tweet above is the following tweet:
https://twitter.com/BonnyBraes1/status/342996199202254849
Fat Pat @BonnyBraes1
#McCann och a miss de goood oold days when ma wee blog had real people on it, but they all upped an left, Honestbroker Nick Townsend was fun
6:27 am - 7 Jun 2013
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One donation of £10,00 from 2013 (that’s after the dormant @nicktownsend12 twitter account was created, wasn’t it?). Of course the entire internet remembers this particular donation! Who could have forgotten it??
And a tweet from one of the vilest character of the internet on Jun 7 2013. Again that’s after the dormant @nicktownsend12 twitter account was created.
Is this REALLY all you could show to demonstrate the devotion of a man who, according to your friend NT has “devoted thread after thread after thread on several forums to going on endlessly about the man [Martin Grime]” and “literally never stops going on about him [Martin Grime]”?
And by coincidence – NOT – again, after @TheBunnyReturns published the tweets above, an Anonymous published the following tweet:
DeleteAnonymous 21 Aug 2018, 18:05:00
LOL! Bugsy has just shown you right up.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031946366908604418
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1031949061035831296
Are you truly incapable of finding these things out, because if so, given how very basic it is, it doesn't say a lot for your research skills.
The alternative, is that you're lying. So which is it, liar, terrible researcher, or both?
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“Anonymous”,
We will leave it up to the readers to make up their own minds.
Who went on Nessling’s fundraising page or even knew he had a fundraising page? After he was prosecuted, I looked him up and came across the page, but I wasn’t aware of it until then.
DeleteIs he Honestbroker? There seems to be some disagreement in the ranks as to whether they are same person or different people.
The Bonnybraes tweet Ben linked to @ FatPat - is that a spoof account or real one? Can’t imagine she’d describe herself as Fat Pat!
DeleteOne of the vilest? You really think that was the real BonnyBraes? Her account has a totally different name. See this is what happens when you think you know it all, but actually, you know nooooothing.
DeleteWhy do you keep flogging this dead horse? All it's doing is destroying the last scraps of credibility you have. All your years of work, effort...all down the swanny, because it will now, forever be associated with someone who is obviously lying. You're compromised now, and there's no way back for someone who knowingly lies to their readers.
Anonymous 21 Aug 2018, 19:24:00,
Delete1. In 2013, we didn't pay much attention to Twitter.
2. You bring up a bogus account to prove a point?
3. You are spiralling a little out of control, aren't you?
Unpublished Anonymous (Mr Thompson) at 19:49,
DeleteA “bogus, spoof or otherwise” tweet proves absolutely nothing. If you haven’t read properly our words, we couldn’t care less if Nick T is or not HonestBroker. That is not important.
What is important is that your people have been unable to prove any relevant activity about his alleged obsession with Martin Grime from this individual on twitter or in any forum before we have stated.
Now, unless you provide said proof – in which case we will publish it, do go to the usual places where you like to whine and where you can speak to sympathetic ears.
About you and your internet presence, we’ll just quote a reader who commented on our FB page:
“Still following all Textusa tho not making many comments but I do not ever do twitter and never will from seeing what's been passed onto me by friends that's been said in Twitter. . I'm just baffled as to who really is Ben Thomson. Sounds like more than one person, but last year, out of the blue, and for no reason, this Ben started to give me a real slating, publicly on fb. I just assumed he was a sandwich short of a picnic and never took it further tho I abhorred the language he used Now, I see there's more to this name or names than meets the eye. Very strange as not someone I've ever followed or friended, but now reading some things said to Textusa and others that seem very dangerous. (Nowt so queer as folk, eh.?). Safer if we all just 'follow' maybe.”
https://twitter.com/umweltbuerger/status/1031991815971528704
ReplyDeleteMari Welzel @umweltbuerger
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue_16.html#comment-form … Textusa Sisters, You have 3,110,695 reasons (Total Pageviews) to continue your research and publishing your findings :) Hope you don't stay with the distractions too long; looking forward to more information you have on #mccann and co
12:49 pm - 21 Aug 2018
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Mari Welzel,
Please rest assured that we´re not being distracted even though they are trying very hard (oh, how hard they are trying) to take us off the path we have set.
As we said in our comment at 20 Aug 2018, 15:59:00, the “Nick T hoax” is as relevant as anything else that is in the files as it shows, very clearly, the tentacles of the cover-up on the internet.
The internet has played a very relevant part in this case, as we are all aware. It seeks to influence the public opinion which in turn pressures politicians.
The Maddie case is political. We believe we’re fighting against a fierce campaign that had (note the past tense) the objective of mobilising the public opinion into pressuring the government to close Operation Grange and archive the case.
If you haven’t noticed, a lot of activity in certain blogs and in certain twitter accounts have mysteriously practically ground to a halt, and some have even vanished into the fog. Maybe like D. Sebastião, they will return from it.
If one didn’t know that we only have 6 readers, one could even think that analysing Kate’s book, saving the planet and marketing Nick Townsend has fallen off the priorities of some because of us.
But as we indeed only have 6 readers, it really doesn’t matter much what we have to say, or does it?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1031914008327147520
ReplyDeleteWasn’t Michael Wright the internet monitor?
Anonymous 21 Aug 2018, 21:53:00,
DeleteBringing it over to the blog:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1031914008327147520
Michael Walker@Bale2N
This is how all the #mccann libelers will be caught when the "No win, No Fee" lawyers trawl the web. Deletion is pointless, I cache all McCann every 3 seconds. XXX
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/1456078.Cyberstalker_caught_/
3:40 pm · 21 Aug 2018
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We will not give an opinion about whether Walker/Bale is or not Michael Wright, so any comment asking will not be published.
We have said in the past and will maintain that Walker/Bale is NT. And have published your comment and brought it to the blog because it shows he likes to monitor but is not that pleased with the taste of his own medicine.
Hello Textusa Sisters,
ReplyDeleteA sweet reply. I'm beginning to understand !
Oh my goodness, wow, ok, I get it :)
We'll keep reading, all six readers will agree, I'm sure, that you, no doubt have more for us to look forward to.
It's exciting, thank you, it matters a lot.
Kind Regards,
Mari
From our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete" NT's latest post really does tug at the heart strings. He's quite upset that an anonymous blogger has accused him, also an anonymous blogger, of being some other people, who post under pseudonyms. NT says this "Blogger is not designed to be a means to harass, stalk or bully others." "Free speech" does not extend to the right to abuse, harass or malign as clearly stated in the terms and conditions. Oh the irony! This, from a man who set up a blog purely to abuse, harass and malign Textusa."
NT (Not Textusa) has been stalking, abusing, harassing and maligning Textusa for many years now. He's tried to have this blog shut down on numerous occasions. He sole modus operandi it to grind the blog into the ground. One wonders why...? Yet NT champions free speech - people are free to say what they want, it seems!
ReplyDeleteAbout NT and free speech.
ReplyDeleteOne of his supporters and frequent commenter on his blog is Andy Fish:
https://twitter.com/andyfish19/status/956999355550052358
Andy Fish @AndyFish19
Anybody seen #Dogsbody Walker/Wright of late? Here he is below looking very shifty alongside Gerry #Smithman #UpToNoGood #McCann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUfx1euXcAAmh_x.jpg:large
1:16 pm - 26 Jan 2018
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Andy Fish accuses Michael Wright explicitly, even with photos, of being Walkercan1000.
Based on what? We don’t know but if he could explain to all of us, we would be grateful.
We are still to see NT correct Andy Fish on this.
But, as we have waited to no avail for him to correct Nick/Anon on the McCanns at Kelly’s thing (not a myth, shouts Nick/Anon!) we are not expecting from him on this either.
From NT’s blog:
ReplyDeleteAnonymous22 August 2018 at 02:54
But isn't your own site specifically designed to bully and abuse others?
Reply:
Not Textusa22 August 2018 at 03:12
No
Anonymous22 August 2018 at 09:08
Don’t let him/her get under your skin man.
I’m surprised you have acted like this. Aside from fulfilling texts fantasies you are also making it look like you are bothered, when I always got the impression you couldn’t care less what the latest crazed accusation from him/her was.
BA.
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Not Textusa22 August 2018 at 09:45
Thanks for your comment BA.
The complaint is focussed on her use of one platform to pursue people across other social media and her fondness to assign a sort of ''guilt by association''to people interacting in other places such as twitter, facebook etc.
This impinges on their real lives and is disigned to intimidate, in my opinion. It has been used before with Brenda, and I'm not having her start the same here.
To be honest, if it was just me, I would leave her be - everyone knows she is off her head - but not when she starts on others. Call it a matter of principle, if you like.
I totally take your point on board, though and thanks for making it. I can see it from your viewpoint too, and like I say it isn't a matter of being 'bothered' by her nonsense, but perhaps making her understand that there are lines one does not cross
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So, Blogger on NT’s request is going to close our blog because we produce an effect across other social media… wow, what a blog with 6 readers can do!
Interesting the intimacy between NT and BA. The ‘man’ is quite chummy, isn’t it?
Some people should wash their mouths whenever they say Brenda’s name. And not only NT.
Any questions about poor Brenda Leyland, please address them to Martin Brunt. He knows all the answers (not the only one to know).
I've no idea whether swinging is involved in the Madeleine McCann mystery but it can cause problems.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6085983/Swingers-ball-turned-violent-property-director-objects-partner-helping-man-SOCK.html
Let’s start to show the importance of Nick Townsend (Nick T) in the case.
ReplyDeleteAs we have shown, either Nick Townsend is either a secret agent who has erased all his past off the internet (leaving only a £10,00 donation and a ref in a spoof twitter account) or he is as we say, a creation.
One that even though he had a brief tweet exchange @TheBunnyReturns and others on Nov 4, it is only in 2018 that he really makes his appearance.
As readers can understand, Mr Thompson has been under our radar for some time. When, why and with what attention is something we explain in a later comment.
But for now it’s sufficient to say that we only started to really pay attention to Mr Thompson once he outed himself as a full NT supporter.
And please don’t be mistaken that happened because of the Orlov incident. It wasn’t. It was after our comment on Sonia Poulton’s video. Another topic to be dealt with in a later comment.
It seems that it took Mr Thompson that long – from the Orlov incident to our comment on Sonia Poulton’s video – to realise how really an anti NT was as, as Mr Thompson has said it, it was ONLY after the Orlov incident that he really became aware of NT. Until then, apparently, he had been fooled by us.
This only to say that it was then and only then – when Mr Thompson outed himself – that we took notice of Nick T on Twitter.
Having witnessed the same tactic countless times, it was easy to perceive that Nick T’s presence was simply to provide Mr Thompson with credibility.
But the tweet exchange between Mr Thompson and Nick T had one hilarious peculiarity: Mr Thompson demanded from Nick T that he was to answer all his questions on camera!
Obviously this deluded sense of self-importance and that of reality – combined with a complete absence of the notion of ridicule – was what made us pay closer attention to the exchange between Mr Thompson and Nick T.
One, an evident unimportant sock who we had never noticed before and the other “buying” credibility online.
So we followed this “debate” more as light entertainment than of any real interest in it. Until July 19.
On that day from NT’s blog:
“john blacksmith 19 July 2018 at 11:42
Hello NT. On twitter your old friend, the disgusting Townsend, whose record of stalking and falsely accusing innocent people makes those who’ve harassed the admirable Sade look like angels, is being quietly eviscerated by Jules and others. His responses suggest that it is being done without an anaesthetic, so loud are his squeals.
As his small intestine was being removed and placed carefully in a Magimix by Dr Jules, Townsend (initials NT which probably means Textchooser thinks he is you) came up with an increasingly popular line about the case files, viz “Didn't you know that the files on-line are not full or complete?”
As other avenues for speculation are closed off both sides seem to be grasping at this one to plug their own pet inventions and bare-faced lies, just as Townsend did.
Well, the claim may be right. But it is not what Joao Melchior Gomes, the Portuguese Deputy Attorney-General 2007-2010, who supervised Menezes and signed the Attorney-General’s report, told the Lisbon libel trial on oath. The exchange in court:
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Not Textusa19 July 2018 at 12:23
Evening JB,
Yes, I noticed the festering gobshite had slithered away from STM, seeking the only two people left on God's green earth who are not au fait with his special skill - taking an FOI reply which says "Yes" and pretending it actually says "No".
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“Hello NT. On twitter your old friend, the disgusting Townsend”
Your old friend? How does JBS know that Nick T and NT are “old friends”?
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ReplyDeleteDo note that, NT acknowledges this OLD friendship and is NOT minimally surprised that Blacksmith knows of it. In fact, from his words, it seems evident that to NT, Blacksmith would evidently know of it.
As we had never heard of Nick Townsend before we paid attention to Mr Thompson, only then did we go and check Nick T’s twitter profile and saw that up to that moment he had sent out 765 tweets, was following 12 people and was followed by 11.
Replying to Blacksmith, NT says that he had “I noticed the festering gobshite [Nick T] had slithered away from STM”. That made perfect sense and married perfectly with the relative low number of tweets and hardly any followers. All pointed, then, to Nick T being a relative newcomer to the case in terms of activity.
In terms of the fact that Nick T’s account was set up in 2012, we gave it no importance.
We know there are many dormant accounts out there and even if it wasn’t a sock, the number of tweets he had sent and the number of followers showed clearly, he hadn’t been around that long.
We can use our example. I’ve created a Twitter account and the team has not allowed it to be used. To be honest, I don’t remember the name anymore and much less the password. But it’s there and valid. If we were to tweet today, the date it was created would be totally irrelevant.
However, the difference between Textusa and Nick T is that there is plenty evidence of our existence between the date of the creation of that account and today, whilst with Nick T, as proven, what is out there (donation and spoof account tweet) is so minimal that it’s negligible. It’s like saying that because one has seen a locust on a rock and because it’s green and it’s alive and on a rock it proves that there are indeed Martians!
Note, from NT’s words, his crossing of swords seems to have been on STM.
As far as we know – and as always will stand corrected – NT has only used his “Not Textusa” name in his blog, here in ours and in Cristobell’s.
Blacksmith is a huge supporter of Cristobell but NT’s presence there was very short and we followed it and don’t recollect any sword crossing with any Nick T.
And if there was we are certain Mr Thompson would have shown it us by now. His desperate research to find the any minimal sign of life that Nick T may have left on the internet prior to May 2017, we are certain he would have found it.
For Mr Thompson to have found the donation and the tweet from the bogus account means that he really combed the internet very thoroughly for whatever sign of the character mat have left.
What Mr Thompson seems to have failed to realise is that the more he tries to prove us wrong, he ends in proving us right: his dedication and respective absence of results really prove that there is no registered activity of Nick T on the internet prior to May 2017.
That’s why we have given time to our critics to find the proof of the following statement by NT: “He [Nick T] has devoted thread after thread after thread on several forums to going on endlessly about the man [Martin Grime], he has used Freedom of Information requests, he [Nick T] literally never stops going on about him [Martin Grime]. And he has been doing this for years.”
We taunted and we teased. We have given the impression we were being distracted. We weren’t. We were simply proving that Nick T is a recent invention BUT not too recent, just compromising recent.
There was no sword-crossing between NT and Nick T on Cristobell’s. There was no sword crossing with Nick T on his blog and much less sword crossing between them in ours.
So, from where did Blacksmith know that Nick T and NT were “old friends”?
NT says he doesn’t do Twitter so it couldn’t have been from there.
Knowing only what JBS has said above, apparently remains only another possibility, and that is the sword crossing took place on STM and NT was using another identity.
But then the question that must be asked is why would Blacksmith know that this other identity was NT?
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ReplyDeleteAnd that debate with another identity didn’t happen because if it had, Mr Thompson would have found it and waved it frantically up in the air and he hasn’t.
Can anyone come up with any other scenario for Blacksmith to know that NT and Nick T were old friends?
One that caters for the fact that there’s no valid trace of Nick T on the internet before May 2017?
Blacksmith gives us a clue to what it may be when he says “whose record of stalking and falsely accusing innocent people makes those who’ve harassed the admirable Sade look like angels”.
Please note that this comment is about the fact that Nick T has made the following statement with which he, Blacksmith, does not agree: “Didn't you know that the files on-line are not full or complete?”.
About this particular statement and about Blacksmith not agreeing with Nick T is interesting by itself and we will come back to it at a later date.
What matters for now is for the reader to retain the three relevant things that Blacksmith had to say about Nick T in this particular comment: he’s NT’s old friend, he stalks and falsely accuses innocent people and says the online PJ Files are incomplete.
Where is his obsession for Martin Grime?
Isn’t that the most relevant characteristic that Nick T is supposed to have? Shouldn’t that Martin Grime obsession be upfront when Blacksmith was to speak of him? Yet he doesn’t even mention it.
NT does mention it but with no context so the reference to Nick T v Martin Grime went unnoticed even to those of us who were being entertained by the Nick T v Bugsy debate on twitter.
NT does mention a “FOI reply” but without any context, and there was no context, the link between it and Martin Grime is not perceptible.
So, to understand the importance of Nick T in the case, it has absolutely nothing to do with what he has said on Twitter, nothing to do with FOIs but with the fact that he shows very clearly an intimacy between 2 people, NT and Blacksmith that no one not only was aware of, nor even suspected.
But it doesn’t stop here. It continues. We will do so in later comments.
However, we would like to leave a final word about fooling and being fooled. We have said it before and will repeat that no one is knowingly fooled.
But what we have to add today is that only with the truth can one bait a person into being fooled. Who is fooling has to be convincing and to really convince one has to be truthful. Up to the point or time when one wants to deceive. But by then the victim is so convinced of the conman’s honesty that it will be very hard to be convinced that s/he has been fooled.
So do expect a ramping up of “charming-up” offensives. Of truth. Are we against it? Of course not. We are never against seeing the truth being spread.
We only fight lies. And liars.
Textusa, I am going to help you out here because otherwise NT is going to make you look stupid. Honestbroker has been around for years and years. There are posts from him going back to the very start of STM and he was around for years before that. He was banned from the UK justice forum for making libellous posts about Martin Grimes. Everyone knows this but you, it seems, and the more you call NT out about it, the worse it makes you look. I thought you would want to know
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 22 Aug 2018, 22:19:00,
DeleteThank you for your comment.
We think we have made it very clear that HonestBroker has been around for years in our comment at 18 Aug 2018, 11:37:00:
"Of the forums, 2 were known as pro: JATYK (Just A Thought You Know) and STM (Stop The Myths). Having as their members many infamous names like bonnybraes (bb1), Sabot, Vee8, dcb, Jean-Pierre 150, Lily, Jayelles, Pedro Silva, Muratfan, lamplighter and honestbroker."
What we haven't is a proof of life from Nick Townsend from before May 2017.
The people who say that HonestBroker is Nick Townsend are, to use an expression Blacksmith likes to use, are the Usual Suspects: Mr Thompson, NT and Blacksmith.
All of them find it absurd for us to say that NT is Bale/Walker. So we're supposing that when they say that HonestBroker is Nick Townsend with solid proof other than a tweet from a spoof account.
But what matters is for Blacksmith to explain from where does he know that Nick Townsend (or even HonestBroker) is an old friend of NT.
Unpublished Jules at 22:59,
ReplyDeleteWe're not publishing your comment out of respect for you.
You have said on NT's that you would never comment again in our blog.
As we know you're a person of principles, we don't want you to disrespect yourself.
We are certain you understand and are grateful.
We have a correction to make.
ReplyDeleteIn our comment at 21 Aug 2018, 18:39:00 we said the following:
“One donation of £10,00 from 2013 (that’s after the dormant @nicktownsend12 twitter account was created, wasn’t it?). Of course the entire internet remembers this particular donation! Who could have forgotten it??”
The tweet says “Nick Townsend 8 years ago” as we transcribed.
What happened was that when transporting the information below, I typed 2013 (probably influenced by the tweet of the bogus account) so, it was easy to see that it was a mistake saying that it was in 2013 when it was in 2010. It was a genuine error as we accepted 2010 date earlier in comment.
And that was the point: who would notice this on Nesslings site? Who would look? In one would in 2013, much less in 2010.
But guess who made a forest out of this toothpick? Mr Thompson.
He submitted the following 4 comments:
“I’m don’t wish to sound picky, but you say the donation was in 2013, after the Nick Townsend account was created, but it clearly states the donation was 8 years ago, which would make the year 2010. A whole 3 years before the creation of the Twitter account. I think that shows you’ve made an error with your thesis.”
“Can you confirm that you made an error with your sums please. I submitted a comment earlier, that showed you had got the date of the donation wrong. The findings of your thesis are therefore also wrong. The donation was in 2010, long before you claimed it to be.”
“I see you have added another comment, but are yet to correct your maths. This can no longer be an honest mistake, otherwise you would have corrected it. The only conclusionn I can draw from this, is that you didn’t make a mistake, but that you purposely lied to make twist the evidence and make it fit your theory. I think Not Textusa is therefore right about you. I shall leave a comment there instead, and will cease reading your blog, and inform others why. Very disappointed in you.”
“Do you feel this is more important than correcting your own lies above? This is the 4th time I have drawn your attention to it and yet still, you’ve done nothing about it nor have you published my previous comments. 2018 minus 8 years does NOT give you an answer of after 2013. It would seem those who call you out as a fraud are absolutely correct.”
DeleteBefore you make a bigger fool of yourself. Google the following: "Nick Townsend Madeleine McCann" and scroll down no more than 10 results.
Then tell me what you've written below, is anything other than a complete invention on your part, as is everything else you've written.
"For Mr Thompson to have found the donation and the tweet from the bogus account means that he really combed the internet very thoroughly for whatever sign of the character mat have left."
"And that was the point: who would notice this on Nesslings site? Who would look? In one would in 2013, much less in 2010"
Mr Thompson,
DeleteNot sure what you mean by invention but as you seem to live in a world where what you say is because you say it is, independent of reality showing you otherwise, we will assume it’s just one of those things that only you and the remainder lick-spittle gang can see and the rest of the world, can’t.
Our words speak for themselves. We will leave up to the readers to see if they can find the invention we weren’t able t find and so unable to comment.
We googled, as per your suggestion “Nick Townsend Madeleine McCann”.
The first 3 results are from your blog:
#1: A post from Apr 10, 2015, a post about Robert Guest who you say is Nick Townsend
#2: A post from Nov 4, 2016, about a man responsible for hoax sightings
#3: A post from Mar 20, 2016, about the McCanns and Brian Kennedy
Not providing links, because we are afraid to infringe some copyright as it seems that Justice for Madeleine FB group has the exclusive in promoting your blog.
You are one of the Usual Suspects who say that everyone knows that Nick Townsend is HonestBroker (and he may well be as we have said) so not exactly a reliable source. And you had your chance to put up your evidence on twitter and all you could come up with was a £10,00 donation in 2010 and tweet from a spoof tweet account.
What we want proof of is that of the alleged activity of Nick T before May 2016. Activity is what determines existence, so to speak, on the internet.
Interesting to note, is that all these posts were all after Sonia Poulton announced she was going to do a video, and you fully supporting her.
It may well be that you that you only have started your blog after that, we didn’t check but the character HonestBroker was on the internet long before that.
#4: https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12, was to Nick T’s twitter account
#5: “Forensic DNA tests 'reveal traces of Madeleine's body on resort beach ...” in it a Mark Townsend
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/07/ukcrime.madeleinemccann
#6: “Shannon Matthews - Betrayed From Birth - Google Books Result”, in it a Nick Townsend, certainly not the same one.
https://books.google.pt/books?isbn=1843582155
#7:
NotTextusa - Questions that Textusa doesn't want to answer and the ...
#8: “Reactions to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann – Wikipedia”, in it a Mark Townsend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann
#9: “Shannon Matthews: How the timeline of a hoax kidnapping unfolded ... “, in it a Nick Townsend, certainly not the same one.
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/.../shannon-matthews-how-the-timeline-of-a-hoax-ki...
So where is ALL the alleged activity from Nick Townsend?
Where are the “thread after thread after thread on several forums to going on endlessly about the man, he has used Freedom of Information requests, he literally never stops going on about him”?
We hope you realise that your persistence in linking Nick T with HonestBroker – and we repeat that it’s not something we discard – is making things worse for Blacksmith.
Let’s assume that Nick T is HonestBroker for arguments sake
Question remains and what we want to know is from where does Blacksmith know that NT and HonestBroker have clashed in the past as his words clearly state?
If Nick T is HonestBroker as you say he is, then said threads could only have been in the pro-forums cesspits that no one reads.
For the sword crossing to have been there, that means Blacksmith is a prolific reader of those sites, means that NT is a user of those sites – under whatever identity(ies) – and it means that Blacksmith knows that it is NT behind the identities he uses in those sites.
So it would appear that Textusa sisters are slowly prising the masks off and revealing the levels of deceit. Not suprising in this case where subterfuge has be MO from day 1. As they say, you can fool all of the people etc etc...
ReplyDeleteThe small club of internet gangsters hell bent on keeping blame within the tightest of circles now being shown up, called out and exposed. Superb effort.
From Wikipedia: A house of mirrors or hall of mirrors is a traditional attraction at funfairs (carnivals) and amusement parks. The basic concept behind a house of mirrors is to be a maze-like puzzle.[1] In addition to the maze, participants are also given mirrors as obstacles, and glass panes to parts of the maze they cannot yet get to. Sometimes the mirrors may be distorted because of different curves, convex, or concave in the glass to give the participants unusual and confusing reflections of themselves, some humorous and others frightening.
DeleteNT and cronies, to a tee.
VERY IMPORTANT statement made by the new anti messiah NT:
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Now that a few things have been ironed out, over the years, and we know that Tannerman was an innocent holidaymaker..."
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So, according to NT Dr Totman is Tannerman!
Tannerman, who according to the Met is Crèchedad.
So, unless logic has abandoned the building together with Elvis, according to NT, Dr Totman, a guest, is Créchedad who was seen with his daughter across his arms, her bare feet dangling on chilly night, walking AWAY from the apartment where he was staying and in front of which he has just passed.
Do people remember how hard it was for that attention calling character from the lick-spittle gang to convince all that what Blacksmith had said - that Dr Totman was Crèchedad and so Tannerman - wasn't exactly what he had said but that he had said something else and those who couldn't understand that were just stupid beyond hope?
Didn't John Blacksmith question the article that showed Dr Totman as the man Jane Tanner saw that night?
DeleteAnd Blacksmith has replied, as usual on NT's blog:
ReplyDelete"john blacksmith23 August 2018 at 06:46
Hi Jules. More sterling efforts from you I see. I'll come back to NT's point about the files but first the nonsense.
There is no mystery at all about Honestbroker, just as there is no mystery at all about swinging cover-ups: both are symptoms of Textusa's inability to see anything straight, a matter of no significance to us but of some import to people who've believed in her fantasies, people who have now been left stranded, aghast at what she's been saying.
Honestbroker was a founder and chief researcher for the "exposing the myths" site and a doughty, and at times very powerful, critic of the more numbskulled antis until struck by an illness which devastated his ability to analyse and forced him to give up serious research.
His identity was revealed by a number of "anti" researchers years ago, people angered not so much by the force of his criticisms but by a malign streak of viciousness which worsened as his neurological ability to criticise coherently waned. Along with his name they revealed his location, family details and the nature of his illness. I will say no more than that.
I, alongside others known to us here, debated with him many times over the years as did the Green Leaper - Hi Frog, wie geht's? - and others known to us, but as his faculties diminished so did any point in bothering. The viciousness, which had seen him disparagingly discuss the well-known murder of my oldest friend on McCann forums, remained, together with the obduracy.
His intellectual and moral disintegration featured greatly on the now-deleted Amazon forum where his posts were greeted by a pervading sense of embarrassment and discomfort. The same process can still be observed on STM, his long-term McCann/internet base. Almost uniquely for that wasps' nest, his contributions over recent years have been moderated and publicly corrected, while being largely ignored by other members. Latterly he has posted under his own name in certain places.
There's no mystery at all in this sad and unpleasant story of a life in terminal decline except, possibly, the exact root of his obsession with Grime."
We have taken some time to respond to Blacksmith. We preferred to let his words speak for themselves. Allow the readers to absorb them because it does take time to absorb them properly
DeleteHis rudeness towards us – saying our readers are aghast as if he knew our readers, but then Blacksmith is Blacksmith and Blacksmith knows all – is unsurprising and quite boring.
As boring as has been all the abuse we have received for years.
Unsurprising because it’s expected. When one rips the mask off a fraud, one obviously doesn’t expect him to take it lying down.
Says Blacksmith: “The viciousness, which had seen him disparagingly discuss the well-known murder of my oldest friend on McCann forums”
What murder is Blacksmith referring to that Honestbroker was discussing? The only well-known death within the Maddie case was that of Brenda Leyland. Is Blacksmith suggesting that Brenda was murdered? Based on what? As far as we know, the British authorities, in which Blacksmith so much trusts, have ruled Brenda’s death as suicide.
We at the blog believe that Brenda took her own life, however, the circumstances that we believe pushed her to make her decide to take her own life are indeed near-bordering on murder.
Is Blacksmith recognising this fact? If he is, and if he knows as we believe he does, what exactly those circumstances were, out of respect for the woman he should refrain from ever saying her name.
One clue, it’s no secret that in those circumstances was the infamous CEOP report. Which apparently has resurfaced again this year by the hand of Sonia Poulton.
Says Blacksmith: “Honestbroker was a founder and chief researcher for the "exposing the myths" site and a doughty, and at times very powerful, critic of the more numbskulled antis”.
If we didn’t know this individual whose mask is falling off we would be somewhat shocked by his seeming acceptance of some of the sites many of us regard as operated by pros, as the one he refers to:
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39077583/Rebuttal%20of%20%22Fact%22%205
This forum defends the consistency of the T9 statements and rogatories. Certainly not what Sr Amaral or the PJ thought.
Blacksmith defending someone who defends such consistencies says it all. And by calling those who oppose them as “numbskulled antis”, Blacksmith is facilitating our lives in proving that he’s as big – if not bigger – a fraud passing as an anti as NT is.
We’re personally aghast that Blacksmith has the shamelessness to give such a sympathetic account of Honestbroker, who posted on the vile Chaosraptors site- the home of Nigel Nessling, Upshon and co.
Blacksmith certainly seems to have some admiration for Honestbroker in the earlier days as it seems that accordingly before he fell ill he did serious research: “until struck by an illness which devastated his ability to analyse and forced him to give up serious research”.
Blacksmith is very clear that Honestbroker is seriously ill. Besides what he says above he adds “which worsened as his neurological ability to criticise coherently waned”, speaks of “his intellectual and moral disintegration” and says it’s just a “sad and unpleasant story of a life in terminal decline”.
If Honestbroker is Nick Townsend, as say NT, Mr Thompson and the Frog (hope the reader noted how he tried to validate the Frog’s opinion that Nick Townsend is Honestbroker), he seems to be functioning well, if unacceptably.
We ask readers to read Nick Townsend’s tweets, and abstain from judging the content, see for yourselves if whoever is behind them shows any sign of mental illness:
https://twitter.com/Ntown1976Nick
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12
Whoever is behind those tweets, this “Nick Townsend” seems to us to be an absolutely normal person mentally as well as he fails to present any of the vileness that he’s alleged to have.
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DeleteIt’s interesting that Blacksmith brings up an “exposure” topic. As we’ll see in a later comment, it seems he’s quite an attentive observer who is being exposed in the dark bas-fond that is the cesspit of the pro-forums: “His identity was revealed by a number of "anti" researchers years ago, people angered not so much by the force of his criticisms but by a malign streak of viciousness which worsened as his neurological ability to criticise coherently waned. Along with his name they revealed his location, family details and the nature of his illness. I will say no more than that.”
As our readers know, we are absolutely against such exposures as we feel the right to anonymity should be respected. That said we were not aware that Honestbroker’s identity had been outed, nor by whom.
Those of us who have been more interested in investigating the facts of the case through the years than to be entertained by the fait-divers of those whose mission was to create distraction, have very rarely visited those sites.
As we were hardly ever mentioned in them – an interesting fact by itself – our visits to them were very scarce and stopped years ago.
Yet, Blacksmith seems to be very familiar not only with what is going on there at the moment as he’s quite familiar with its admin interventions: “Almost uniquely for that wasps' nest, his contributions over recent years have been moderated and publicly corrected, while being largely ignored by other members. Latterly he has posted under his own name in certain places.”
What Blacksmith doesn’t address in his comment above is what is the crux of the question: how does he know that Nick Townsend is an “old friend” of NT?
Not once in his “clarification” does he explain where NT fits into this picture.
If the reader hasn’t noticed, the lick-spittle gang is trying to pin the debate around whether Nick Townsend is or is not Honestbroker.
The use we have given to Nick Townsend is very simple: before May 2017 there were no tweets from this name. And only after January they have really appeared and after July 19 he tweeted in a month more than he tweeted in the rest of the year.
Is the person behind this character the same one that is behind Honestbroker? It could be, it’s unimportant.
Nick Townsend may even be the infamous Robert Guest. Again, it’s not important.
Irrelevant of him being Honestbroker, Guest or any other alias, factually is that the Nick Townsend alias, or better said “Twitter Nick T”, was only activated in May 2017, only has really reported for duty at the beginning of this year and was ordered to step up his game as of July 19.
If this was a spy-novel, “Twitter Nick T” would have been a sleeping cell that was activated in May 2017.
And since he’s been active, as readers can see if they read both his timelines, In no way has he been rude, vile or abusive. Only untrue about facts.
And yet, Blacksmith was able to recognise him as NT’s “old friend”.
“Twitter Nick T” has confessed that he was Ferryman and has practically confessed that he was Honestbroker. But that was only after we brought attention to the character, so all very convenient.
So the debate around him being Honestbroker or not is simply trying to pin the discussion and distract from the main question: how did Blacksmith know that Nick Townsend was an “old friend” of NT? That is what should be answered and is not.
And the question remains even if Nick Townsend is Honestbroker: in that case how does Blacksmith know that Honestbroker is an “old friend” of NT?
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DeleteInstead over on the dark side, they are trying to distract with having the blog reported, bringing back the absurd myth of the missing files (by being insultingly xenophobic) and even bringing back Totman in a desperate effort to distract us from continuing on the importance of Nick Townsend in the case.
That’s why apparently Mr Thompson is losing a wager. He has submitted this comment which we haven’t published:
“Well, well, well. You’ve truly blown a gasket. I have never read such an absolute pile of bullshit merged with worrying lunacy in my entire life. I’m going to enjoy tearing that to bits. You’ve literally (aside from copying the quotes correctly), not got a single thing right. When I show you to be utterly round the twist - and I’ll wager NT will do the same, consider this. What do you think your reader will make of everything else you’ve ever written? More importantly, what will they make of YOU, a liar, a con-artist, a mad bastard, and a complete, and utter FRAUD!”
Mt Thompson seems to be in the habit of thinking he can summon all and anyone to fight for him.
It seems that NT has rather preferred to pretend he hasn’t read what we have said about Blacksmith knowing that “Twitter Nick T” is his “old friend”.
After all the September is coming – time for the October funding decision – and the campaign should have the internet mobilised at this time, foaming at the mouth, shouting out furiously that if the McCanns are not questioned then the farce that Operation Grange is to be stopped immediately.
But the internet is not mobilised. Fascinating what a 6-reader blog can achieve.
We have received the following censored comment from Anonymous at 10:45:
Delete“(Censored). The questions which is obvious to everyone is: What does this have to do with you? (censored). Who knows who will turn on next?”
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Denouncing frauds who are collaborating in obstructing justice about what happened to Maddie McCann, is in our opinion to help find the truth as to what happened to her, so our business.
Who are we going to turn on next? That reminds us of the now famous “perjury trap”. One only falls into one if one has committed perjury and to not commit perjury one only has to tell the truth.
So, those who have nothing to fear from the truth, have nothing to fear from us.
We don’t fear being turned on. In fact, NT has turned on us for years. By the way, shouldn’t you also be asking NT what does Textusa have to do with him?
Those with not a very clear conscience will have to live with the reality that we – or in the future someone else – may indeed one day turn on them but that is a reality they have chosen.
Adding to the above,
DeleteWhy are we turning on people? Mt Thomson was the first to do this, not us, with his followers behind him. And he’s turned on many other people in the past.
Here we have a correction to what we have said above. We have said that NT has turned on us for years. He hasn’t. Turning on people can only be done if they were on the same side to begin with.
NT never turned on us, he was always against us; the same being true of Blacksmith, who, as far as can be recalled, made disparaging remarks without any provocation about us over the years.
Only certain people, it seems, are allowed to out people on their blogs without expecting to be criticised.
Only certain people can claim X on twitter is, in fact Y, without any proof other than syntax or a “take my word for it” attitude.
And only certain people are allowed to say “we” without being pedantic. When we say, we, we’re being arrogant (even though we have said repeatedly that we are 3 people) but when Blacksmith says “we, at the Bureau” (without saying how many people make up that wondrous Bureau) is not - as we have not seen any criticism about it - pompous at all.
On Aug 14, 2 days after Honestbroker published the 1 post thread on the FOI, Twitter Nick T confesses that he’s a STM member who publishes there, thus practically confessing that he’s Honestbroker:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1029467891622731776
nick townsend @nicktownsend12
I am tired now. But perhaps in the morning I will use a board at STM to explain my reservations about Grime's role at PdL, with cites from the files.
1:40 pm - 14 Aug 2018
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On Aug 15, the Frog throws Twitter Nick T under the bus by exposing him as Ferryman/Honestbroker (and taking the opportunity to “exempt” NT from being Walker/Bale):
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1029857164364587009
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @AlleyCat666x @Bale2N and 3 others
If you ever need to identify a sock, Textusa is NOT your go-to. NT is NOT Bale/Walker/Townsend. Townsend IS Ferryman/Honestbroker (proof can be supplied on receipt of suitable bribe) NT is anti-everything. Townsend is anti-Grime but pro McCann, Jules's head is spinning.
3:27 pm - 15 Aug 2018
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On Aug 16, Twitter Nick T, confesses he’s Ferryman:
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1030173359517118464
nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @JBLittlemore
I used the name "ferryman" on UK Justice, but never anywhere else.
12:24 pm - 16 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1030171474286583808
nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @JBLittlemore
I used the name "Ferryman" on UK Justice, until they banned me.
12:16 pm - 16 Aug 2018
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Isn’t that too much of confessing for such a short time?
Basically confirming all that has been said about him. Following a script.
About the hatred against the McCanns campaign being set-up, let’s exemplify.
ReplyDeleteBen Salmon apologises – in our opinion correctly – to Kate McCann:
https://twitter.com/Tealtraum/status/1032644562001559552
Ben Salmon @Tealtraum
Not everyone will like this, but here it is. https://h42a.wordpress.com/2018/08/23/an-apology-to-kate-mccann/
#McCann
8:03 am - 23 Aug 2018
To this Hatemonger Isabelle McFadden has this to say:
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @Tealtraum
Why are you apologizing for Kate #McCann having a mustache? She's the one who made her daughter's death about her looks? Did you forget her only fat people are guilty? Or her husband wanting her to pose in a swimsuit?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlVrPIlU0AAnzV1?format=jpg
9:38 pm - 23 Aug 2018
Picture attached to the mail above says the following:
“News
Kate McCann: ‘If I weighed another two stone, had a bigger bosom and looked more maternal, people would be more sympathetic”
IN an EXCLUSIVE interview, the grandparents of Madeleine McCann tell Paddy Shennan of the terrible toll on their family as their daughter remains a suspect in the toddler’s disappearance”
And McFadden also runs hatemongering polls on the McCanns:
https://mobile.twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1032754895919570945
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Do you think Kate #McCann was BEATING Madeleine? #Poll Things that make me believe she was:
48 questions she REFUSED
her temper/ all the bruises
article where she bashes Madeleine http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482238/Kate-McCann-My-struggle-control-difficult-Madeleine.html …
3:22 pm - 23 Aug 2018
One must wonder how does Blacksmith have a friendship with Isabelle McFadden, who is promoting theories of sexual abuse of Maddie and a nasty slap leading to her demise? We thought Blacksmith had no time for the Gaspars’ statements.
Now the Hatemonger McFadden’s poll says sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
DeleteBut the poll by a large majority was that McCanns were beating Maddie.
The result came out late last night. By this morning it was gone. It wasn’t a neutral poll as can be seen above she gave 3 reasons why she went for beating, including the fact that Kate McCann wouldn’t answer the 48 questions. I think there were about 360 responses - all of whom must be wondering why their efforts have disappeared.
If there were legal reasons to remove it, she shouldn’t have run it in the first place.
At least there’s a record here of what she posted.
I suppose anybody who doesn’t subscribe to Mc Fadden’s theories of the beating and abusing of M and her support for the Gaspar allegations is also partaking of the koolaid?
DeleteAbout Maddie having been a victim of violence as per Hatemonger McFadden, we can only imagine what NT has to say.
DeleteOn Friday, Friday, 3 August 2018 on his blog he brings up a theory that we no longer subscribe and haven’t for a long time and that he knows we no longer subscribe but by bringing it up tries to gaslight readers into believing that we still do and has this to say about ONE single slap in a momentary uncontrolled moment of rage, that we spoke of in that theory that we no longer subscribe:
“I think it unlikely that Textusa will print this so I am posting it here
''What you describe, in your ''theory'', is not an accident. You describe an assault leading to the death of an individual. In the circumstances you describe the charge would be, at the very least, Manslaughter.
An accident would be someone falling off a chair. You describe, in graphic terms and a worrying amount of detail for someone making it up, that the person you accuse:
''must have slapped her hard enough to throw her off the couch and have her bang her head against the wall, dying instantly, or shortly thereafter''
What you describe is, therefore, not an accident. It is an assault, leading to an unlawful death. ie, Manslaughter. It has nothing to do with intent. Intent would make it murder.
Let's see if you publish that ''
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She insists on referring to it as ''an accident'' but what she describes is not an accident at all. She describes a vicious blow, by an adult, to silence a child and resulting in her death. That is NOT an accident. Swinging a cricket bat without realising there is someone stood behind you - that's an accident. Hitting someone hard enough to make them fly across the room before dying, well, that isn't an accident.
So, Textusa, you claim your posts are based on 'facts'
On which 'facts' is this theory based?
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I am very concerned by your description of a violent assault against a 3 year old child as ''disciplinary action'' and ''not an assault''
What you described was a violent and severe blow delivered by an adult male to a small child for the purpose of shutting her up. If that in your book amounts to ''disciplinary action'' I would suggest you immediately remove yourself from the company of any small children.
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You say you abhor violence against children, yet wouldn't describe that as an assault. I find that a very worrying admission on your part”
Wow. All this because of a single slap in a moment of rage. Now imagine what he has to say about Hatemonger McFadden promoting actively that Maddie was a victim of beating and sexual molestation.
Strangely (or NOT), we haven’t heard anything from him or from his lick-spittle gang about what Hatemonger McFadden has said.
https://mobile.twitter.com/justice4maddie/status/1032955807585972231
ReplyDeleteI thought the gang attacked others who believe M died before May 3rd!
Yet Ben is happy to retweet this.
Not suggesting that the person tweeting isn’t entitled to have an opinion, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the re-tweeting.
And Blacksmith has replied, as usual on NT's blog:
ReplyDeletejohn blacksmith24 August 2018 at 08:27
Well, it gets better, doesn't it? But I almost feel sorry for T. (hereafter referred to as “she” whatever T. is).
She was told explicitly many weeks ago that her time, along with the rest of the Usual Suspects, pro and anti, is up. Finished. Nothing to do with NT. Nothing to do with me or others here. In 2018 time and revealed facts are now at work, jerking us all along with them.
She cannot believe such a forecast could be true, let alone recognise that it is now playing itself out before our eyes.
Just look at what the times have brought since April! All without the aid, yet, of new investigative findings: the submission of Bennett, the flight and silence of Pat Brown, the disappearance of Dr. Roberts, Hoffman, Tourette's Teddy and the rest.
Plus the final disintegration of the “30/40” club, the aggressive core, centred on STM and its two predecessor forums, that systematically organised the smearing of Amaral and Grime, the dossier and the multi-headed twitter defensive circle around the McCanns for a decade.
Founded 2008, active until it started to bleed to death in February 2017, present status: defunct. The numb bleakness of its occasional posts, the writhings of its remaining members in the twitter defensive circle, Nessling’s fall and subsequent “discretion” about the McCann case and HB’s current collapse – both key members of that group – symbolise its irrelevance to what is now happening in the real world.
All the fighting and panic on the net at the moment is about “personalities” or “blogger wars” or “childish in-fighting” or “nothing happening”? You think so? You’d better take a closer look, chum: what we’re seeing is an internet mirror of what’s going on elsewhere at exactly the same time – the “real world” police quashing of the couple’s decade long media campaign, the simultaneous cessation of the MSM/internet black propaganda anti-Grange group and the helpless Silence of the McLambs.
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Not Textusa24 August 2018 at 11:42
T has apparently appointed itself arbiter of the entire legal process now, and decided that everyone not drinking the Swinging KoolAid is obstructing justice.
Crazy old bat.
Anyone who wants to understnd T just needs to read this
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2008/11/quite-achievement-0-comments.html
....to see how it starts with a theory, like a naked Christmas tree, and dangles bits off it to add colour and interest.
Also a good one to observe a megalomaniac in close proximity
john blacksmith24 August 2018 at 11:24
I'm hogging a lot of space again - but T.’s reading and deduction skills, number 327. Plus a memory.
T: “Says Blacksmith: ‘The viciousness, which had seen him disparagingly discuss the well-known murder of my oldest friend on McCann forums’.What murder is Blacksmith referring to that Honestbroker was discussing? The only well-known death within the Maddie case was that of Brenda Leyland.? Is Blacksmith suggesting that Brenda was murdered?”
Nobody mentioned “within the Maddie case”. Nobody mentioned “Brenda Leyland”. Brenda Leyland was a Bureau fan, not a friend of mine.
“We at the blog believe …” and she’s off, into yet another interminable mystery of her own invention.
The 2009 murder in Australia of Nick Waterlow and his daughter Chloe in an awful family tragedy, made headlines all around the world, partly through its unmitigated horror, partly because, although he was English, he was an important figure over there, and very much because the Australian branch of his family was considered “rich and glamorous”.Oh God.
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ReplyDeleteHB did not bring him into the McCann affair; I did. I pointed out in the Bureau that his death had resulted in a giant media press pack in Australia and in his mother’s little Battersea house being surrounded by brightly lit television vans and pushy pressmen for night after night.
I also pointed out that not one of us, friends or family, chose to “engage with” the horrible MSM bastards before they eventually slunk away. And when a putative “biographer” from Australia arrived months later to get the dirt and the sensationalism we all made, and kept to, a “pact of silence” not to tell her anything.
Leaving aside questions of human dignity, which don’t feature large with the McCanns, no, I wrote, from experience, you didn’t have to “respond to” or “engage with” a huge and ravenous press pack as Gerry McCann has repeatedly claimed ever since in attempted mitigation of the self-serving media carnival that he'd so carefully constructed over the void left by his daughter. And no, I wrote, the publicity accomplished absolutely zero for the child, though a great deal more for the McCanns.
Later, Honestbroker, a man whose experience of real life beyond his garden gate is, I suspect, very limited, chose to pontificate about it, the presumptuous c***, not at all hurtfully but in the manner of a suburban bank manager discussing the Future of Mankind.
The last word lay with Nick’s ninety year old mother, when troubled once more on her doorstep for a media response to the horror. After a brief pause she said, “Talk to you? Are you quite mad? Don’t you know the racing’s on TV?”
As Blacksmith has explained above, the “well-known” murder Blacksmith spoke of was not that of Brenda Leyland’s.
DeleteAfter quoting us saying “Is Blacksmith suggesting that Brenda was murdered?” Blacksmith says “Nobody mentioned “within the Maddie case”.
Yes, Blacksmith did. Let us quote him (our caps): “The viciousness, which had seen him disparagingly discuss the well-known murder of my oldest friend ON MCCANN FORUMS, remained, together with the obduracy.”
Are not McCann forums “within the Maddie case”? We think they are and Blacksmith didn’t contextualise or was careful to refer that said murder had nothing to do with the case.
If we’d been in his position, we wouldn’t have used the terrible death of a friend to illustrate the behaviour of the press, in order to draw parallels with the M case.
With all due respect to the victims, this was not a case that “made headlines all around the world”. The world, even flat-earth theorists agree, is not made up of only the UK and Australia.
Maddie McCann is one of the very few cases that “made headlines all around the world”.
We do remember now a mention of this murder on Blacksmith’s blog but we had completely forgotten it. And it’s not recorded on other blogs as far as we know. Probable deleted, as the vast majority of what Blacksmith has written on the case has been.
Blacksmith is saying that Honestbroker (note, not Twitter Nick Townsend) made nasty comments about the Waterlow murder? If so, that was in 2009. Who remembers what Honestbroker said from those days?
This shows that, if Twitter Nick Townsend is indeed Honestbroker – which we don’t discard – then he appears to be much more an “old friend” of his than of NT.
Again, no reference to NT and the mystery we would like to see solved remains unsolved after so many words said by Blacksmith: “how does Blacksmith know that Twitter Nick Townsend is “an old friend” of NT?
This also confirms what we have said, that Blacksmith is more familiar with pro blogs than any of us.
This is the third time that Blacksmith tries to distract by “tearjerking”.
With all respect for the victims, we find it very distasteful to bring over in such vivid detail to the Maddie case a tragedy that has nothing to do with it.
About the 2008 post that NT decided to fish out from our archives, the 5th one we published (we’re currently at 702) it only shows how we have been ostracised by an internet claiming to want to know the truth about what happened to Maddie and accepting every theory from the logical to the absurd, except ours.
DeleteAnd yet, 10 years later we continue. Dissing us or pretending we weren’t being read hasn’t worked, apparently.
And aren’t these 2 comments so very similar?
This one that we published:
Textusa24 Aug 2018, 13:01:00
We have received the following censored comment from Anonymous at 10:45:
“(Censored). The questions which is obvious to everyone is: What does this have to do with you? (censored). Who knows who will turn on next?”
With this one published in NT’s blog:
Not Textusa24 August 2018 at 12:19
What staggers me, more than anything, is what makes her think any of what she asks is her business?
How does A know B?
Where did they post?
How can C be friends with D?
The answer to all the above is "Piss off and mind your own business, you nosy auld bitch"
The importance of Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT) – Part 2
ReplyDeleteWe have shown how the “newcomer” Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT) on July 19 is spotted by Blacksmith who says on NT’s blog that TNT was an “old friend” of NT.
We have asked how did Blacksmith know that and got as an answer, both from Blacksmith as the rest of the lick-spittle gang that TNT:
- was Honestbroker,
- was Ferryman,
- by being directed via Google by Mr Thompson to a blog post by Mr Thompson, he was Robert Guest.
Note, Blacksmith does not say something like “your old friend Honestbroker is back, now pretending to be Townsend” or “Townsend or Honestbroker is back playing one of his characters” which would be the expected thing to say if TNT’s main alias on the internet was indeed Honestbroker as they have tried to convince all that it so. Blacksmith refers to TNT only as Townsend on July 19.
We even got an answer to being asked what business was of ours in wanting know why one of the most prominent (allegedly) anti blogger, Blacksmith, would know of a friendship that a known pro now turned THE anti, NT, had with someone (TNT) who only has a very recent active footprint on the internet.
Remember when we divided TNT’s tweets referring to Grime in 3 periods: up to Jul 19 (39 times), between Jul 19 and Jul 22 (8 times) and after Jul 22 (60 times up to Aug 2)?
The first period, up to Jul 19, was because it was the day that by the hand of Blacksmith, on NT’s blog, TNT becomes a relevant pro on the internet.
But on that day, as we pointed out, outside an unnoticeable mention to a decontextualized FOI, it isn’t mentioned that TNT has an obsession for Martin Grime. Only that he stalked innocent people and that he claimed that the PJ Files aren’t complete (interestingly, something that NT and Blacksmith now side with TNT on).
The second period, Jul 19 – Jul 22, is because Jul 22 is the day that Mr Thompson (Pseudo Nym) enters the arena as the anointed gladiator destined to send the evil TNT on the Twitter arena back to the entrails of the beast he had dared to be spawned from:
“Pseudo Nym22 July 2018 at 07:34
Nick Townsend has to be one of the biggest, bare faced liars, lurking around the McCann case. With reference to his multiple lies about Martin Grime, I've offered him the opportunity to repeat his allegations on film. Would you believe it, he point blank refuses to answer. He also refuses to confirm whether or not he knows Ronald Townsend - the man who fed police false information about the murder of Charlotte Pinkney.
For such a confident, and chatty person, it's odd that he takes the 5th, when it comes down to it.
If you're reading this, Nick (you are), I can have you in front of a camera at a day's notice. If you're so sure Martin Grime is guilty of the things you've accused him of, you should have no problem putting your face to your claims. If you're camera shy, I can set up an interview instead.
Being the lying coward he is, he will of course continue to run away.
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Not Textusa22 July 2018 at 08:40
He's notorious for it. He also falsely claimed that I was a specific named person and posted links to their professional profile, email address, phone number etc. Get him to tell you about the single magic finger cardiac monitor - his reason why Kate never took the unconscious twins to hospital. Or how it was okay to leave the children alone near a swimming pool because Maddie was a strong swimmer, or his claim that they were never left unattended at all, because they were checked occasionally.
He's a noted halfwit
Pseudo Nym22 July 2018 at 13:49
I didn't know that, what a disgusting man. I can't believe any of his associates truly think he speaks a word of truth - yet they stand by him, and praise him. That's the difference between those who want to find out the real facts, and those who seek to either hide them, or invent the ridiculous.
...and the likes of Bennett and Textusa wonder why the only places they're welcome, are their own pits.”
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ReplyDeleteAs we have shown, it is true that prior to Jul 22 Mr Thompson had crossed swords with TNT.
In fact, in Mr Thompson’s comment at 22 July 2018 at 07:34 in NT’s blog the hilarious demand to have TNT answer his questions on camera that we have mentioned can be seen.
It’s then time to published FULLY a comment that we have already published censored:
“Anonymous 24 Aug 2018, 10:45:00
Textusa, you are making a fool of yourself again. The question which is obvious to everyone is: What does this have to do with you? You seem to believe you can demand answers on the basis you want to know, and for no other reason. This is why people have left, Textusa. Who knows who will turn on next?”
About demanding “answers on the basis you want to know, and for no other reason” from others we must say we haven’t reached the ridiculousness of offering Blacksmith “the opportunity to repeat his allegations on film”, nor have been as idiotic as to tell Blacksmith that we can have him “in front of a camera at a day's notice” and have had the basic sense of not looking the absolute fools by telling Blacksmith that if he was so sure that TNT was an “old friend” of NT then: “you should have no problem putting your face to your claims. If you're camera shy, I can set up an interview instead”.
But it is only after Jul 22, with the above dialogue on NT’s blog, that the sword-crossing between Mr Thompson and TNT is blessed.
On this day, as can be seen above, this combat is blessed by “Caesar” himself, NT.
The spectacle is to show how valiant an anti gladiator Mr Thompson was.
Between Jul 19 and Jul 22, the time between the Blacksmith having “officially” spotted him and NT blessing the combat, TNT steps ever slightly on the “Martin Grime accelerator” but not too much, just enough to justify the entrance on scene of that anti modern Spartacus, Mr Thompson.
After July 22 (the third period) it’s a free for all. Spartacus Thomspon, faces the monster TNT with Jules as a net on his left and the trident @JBLittlemore on his right.
@JBLittlemore is an essential piece in this farce.
We want to make it very clear that we have no reason to believe that @JBLittlemore was a knowing participant – on the contrary, at this point in time we have reason to believe he wasn’t as we’ll show, but it is @JBLittlemore that this show revolves around that was put on for all to watch.
This is because it is @JBLittlemore who gives credibility to Twitter convos with TNT.
@JBLittlemore has a good reputation about the dogs, so any conversation s/he participates in about the dogs, the side @JBLittlemore takes has the credibility that @JBLittlemore gives it.
So by involving @JBLittlemore in the discussions with TNT, it was assured that @JBLittlemore’s reputation and credibility would rub off on those fighting by his side. And who was shoulder to shoulder with @JBLittlemore? Mr Thompson and Jules.
After we exposed him, TNT has suddenly stopped.
But he didn’t stop when we exposed him as he tweeted for a few days more.
He stopped because @JBLittlemore stopped engaging with him. This tells us that @JBLittlemore was not a knowingly participant in the farce but had only been used by those who placed themselves on “his side” so they could benefit from the credibility of @JBLittlemore and so gain credibility as well.
Once @JBLittlemore stopped engaging with him the debate lost credibility and with it TNT lost all the importance he was alleged to have on Twitter as discussing dogs in the Maddie case with Jules is as useful as blowing soap bubbles into gale 4 force winds.
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ReplyDeleteIf the reader hasn’t noticed, TNT has returned with his old account, @Ntown1976Nick, as of Aug 23. But as no one credible has engaged with him, he has gone back to having the importance he had between May 2017 and Jan 15 this year, which is none. And continues to show no signs of mental decline.
Interestingly, his obsession with Martin Grime has gone.
So, all of a sudden, the Martin Grime obsessed, most important and vilest of pros on Twitter, has totally lost his importance.
But what we want the readers to notice in the dialogue on NT’s blog on Jul 22 between NT and Mr Thompson, is this that NT has to say about TNT:
“He [TNT] also falsely claimed that I was a specific named person and posted links to their professional profile, email address, phone number etc. Get him to tell you about the single magic finger cardiac monitor - his reason why Kate never took the unconscious twins to hospital. Or how it was okay to leave the children alone near a swimming pool because Maddie was a strong swimmer, or his claim that they were never left unattended at all, because they were checked occasionally.”
With the above NT confirms that TNT is indeed an “old friend” of his: “He [TNT] also falsely claimed that I was a specific named person and posted links to their professional profile, email address, phone number etc.”
Remember us finding it interesting that Blacksmith brought up the “identity exposure” topic in one of his previous comments?
That’s because the topic of exposing, being exposed and how and what has been exposed is of capital importance to understand the importance of TNT in the Maddie case.
We will deal with that in a later comment but for now NT has been clear: TNT, said that NT was a specific named person and even “posted links to their professional profile, email address, phone number etc.” As we said we will return to this topic on a later date.
But what is unquestionable is the fact that NT not only recognises TNT as the “old friend” as Blacksmith said he was (and we’re still to find out why) but also is quite knowledgeable of TNT’s activities online.
This is what NT says TNT has said at sometime:
- about a single magic finger cardiac monitor - his reason why Kate never took the unconscious twins to hospital;
- about that it was okay to leave the children alone near a swimming pool because Maddie was a strong swimmer;
- claimed that they were never left unattended at all, because they were checked occasionally.
These are very specific and precise topics. As the reader knows, we have repeatedly – maybe even asked incessantly – to be provided with evidence of any presence of TNT before May 2017. Wouldn’t any of these 3 topics be easy to find if TNT had really said them?
Of course, it would be easy to find them if that was true. And if they were true we are certain Mr Thompson would have found it. TNT has never said any of it.
Not saying that these topics haven’t been discussed sometime, somewhere on the internet. What we are stating is that TNT did not discuss them.
We searched “cardiac monitor” and “strong swimmer” in both TNT’s Twitter accounts (so post May 2017) and found nothing.
But from somewhere NT knows that TNT has said them. He even challenges Mr Thompson to ask him about them!
No question that NT is very familiar with TNT.
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ReplyDeleteLet’s recap what we have established so far:
- TNT was only activated on May 2017 but was only active as of January this year.
- TNT increases his “Grime obsession” (of which there’s no previous sign of) after Blacksmith speaks of him in NT’s blog on July 19.
- Blacksmith, on July 19, says that TNT is an “old friend” of NT, even though we are still to find out where this knowledge comes from.
- Blacksmith has since shown that TNT is also an old friend of his, surprising us by showing he has been quite a prolific user, or at least follower, of pro-forums.
- NT, on July 22, fully recognises that TNT is indeed an “old friend” as Blacksmith had said, details very specifically things that allegedly TNT has said in the past that we couldn’t find;
- NT, on July 22, says that some time before TNT has claimed that he, NT, was a specific person.
To be continued...
Before anyone tries to gaslight others by accusing us of criticising @Littlemore, please read again what we have written as we have the utmost respect for his/her work.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/Ntown1976Nick/status/1033385977522335744
ReplyDeleteJust as an example of how Twitter Nick Townsend is showing no signs of mental decline.
We would even say the style is somewhat similar to what NT and Bale (and Walker back in the day) use when they are being patronising. Maybe just a coincidence.
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1033659353922985986
ReplyDeleteMichael Walker @Bale2N
Apparently someone called Blacksmith has become obsessed with me. He/She needs to get out more. #McCann
3:16 am - 26 Aug 2018
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It’s always nice to be acknowledged – irrelevant of the blatant, obvious and pathetic attempt to gaslight – by those (note the plural) who pretend they don’t read us.
It’s confirmed they have. As if we had any question about whether they wouldn’t have.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1033738377152081920
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
For Textusa
Think of Blacksmith & Honestbroker as a bit like Dr Lecter & Dr Chilton....only both are here to tell the tale. NT just Watched. U won't find the swimming/cardiac etc comments online as they were on the deleted Amazon forum. Hope that clarifies matters for you #mccann
8:30 am - 26 Aug 2018
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Thank you Frog.
When fitting the pieces of the puzzle we may, or may not have misplaced rungs of the ladder, by putting one above another which we should have placed below or even place side-by-side when one should be above the other.
We, as always, will let the dust settle on what you have said but as first-impression reaction and at this moment – mind you, as we have said, we may conclude we are wrong – we are not allocating to NT a voyeuristic role as you seem to indicate.
Also, as we have said repeatedly, we have no inside information so we are moving forward through the maze solely by touch, so to speak.
This to say that when we come across the next Y-crossing we may choose to go left due to the knowledge we will have at that moment instead of going right with the one we have now, or who knows, maintain the decision to go on right.
The Amazon forum was deleted many, many years ago but it seems that for NT it was just yesterday, isn’t it?
It seems rather handy that an Amazon forum has disappeared and no one has it copied or cached it, at all? So all information about Townsend has just vanished into thin air? Only thing I could find brings me to a blank page... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/forum/cd/forum.html/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_sap?ie=UTF8&cdForum=FxQ9BDPD12JT49
DeleteWhat for?
DeleteIt was a discussion forum, not an information service for lunatic stalkers
It seems that the Frog has tried to pull a prank:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1033775617068687360
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @Jules1602x
Hope not. She [Textusa] thinks Amazon forum was pulled years ago but it was Sept 2017. Certain antis had severe withdrawal symptoms. Naaaaahhh
10:58 am - 26 Aug 2018
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Sometimes, one uses a phrase so often but doesn’t know from where it has originated. Under the penalty of sounding patronising allow us to remind readers from where the expression “grasping at straws” comes from the image that a drowning man will clutch/grab at anything, even at straws
But what if one wants to speak of desperation even greater than that of a drowning man grasping at dry-grass to save himself, then what expression should one use?
There isn’t one, so we’ll invent one: grasping at a hornet’s legs when falling down a cliff.
Because what the Frog has done with the Amazon Forum is just that, the desperation of someone grasping at a hornet’s legs when falling down a cliff.
Firstly, let us inform the Frog (and also lovely Anonymous 26 Aug 2018, 17:57:00) that the Amazon forums did not close in September 2017 but to be exact, on October 6 2017:
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-is-eliminating-their-discussion-forums/329669
Let’s just quote some words from this page: “sellercentral”, ”amazon services seller forums”, “Become a Seller”, “Selling on Amazon” and “General Selling Questions”.
Can the reader detect the common theme of selling?
Why else would a site like Amazon have forums if not about selling? Why on earth would Amazon have a forum about the Maddie case?
Closing selling forums makes sense, as many dishonest people can piggyback Amazon’s popularity to plug in their own products. Amazon, tired of it, simply closed the SELLING forums on Oct 6 2017.
Secondly, when we said that the “the Amazon forum was deleted many, many years ago” it was simply because we had never heard of it. And because we had never heard of it, assumed that it was possibly a forum that opened and closed years ago and of which no one heard about.
Has anyone ever heard of the Amazon McCann Forum? With the exception of a very few people, we are certain no one else has.
It did exist but as the reader will see, but we are certain that many of those who participated in it didn’t even realise they were participating in a forum!
Please let us explain why we think this.
The only reference we found to an Amazon McCann Forum was on CMOMM in 2012:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5234-kate-mccann-forum-on-amazon
“Re: Kate McCann forum on Amazon
Post by Miraflores on 30.06.12 9:05
I expect Amazon will remove that soon - or at least any comments which don't sing from the St Kate & St Gerry hymn sheet.
There was a long thread started last year as a book review of Madeleine by someone called S Grace. It ran to at least a thousand comments. I haven't checked to see if it is still there.”
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DeleteI approached on FB a friend of mine, a co-veteran on the Maddie case and intentionally catching him/her off-guard, asked “What do you think of the Amazon Forum on Maddie?”
This was his/her answer:
“I haven't seen it to be perfectly honest. The only forums I know are Jill Havern's forum, the Madeleine forum and a forum by Hideho called the Amoo forum.
If there was a forum called Amazon it would probably be in the Amazon website, but if there's anything about Madeleine there it's probably just a few random discussions I would think.
I've just found this from the Jill Havern forum from 2012. It's a discussion about it [and this friend provided the link to CMOMM we have shown above].
I had never heard of it and I wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't looked for it for you. That information was posted in 2012 and 6yrs on it still isn't well known. As the person said in the Jill Havern forum, it's probably just a discussion that went on to have several posts.
So really speaking it's not a forum, just a discussion. There's a post on Facebook that has got over 2,000 posts on about the Poppi Worthington case but you wouldn't call that a forum or a group, just a discussion.”
As my co-veteran friend said it all, I told him/her that I was going to quote him/her.
Unfortunately, we cannot credit this person because s/he has said the following: “Oh, I'm going to be quoted! Don't say it's me because they'll attack you worse if they think that I'm in the mix. Especially if they're associates of Ben Thompson”. The sad state the affairs have reached.
As my friend who I surprised with the question about the supposed Amazon forum said, it seems clear to us that the people who participated in the discussion there did not realise they were participating in a Maddie forum but thought they were debating Kate’s book where it was on sale.
Note that in 2012, the person from CMOMM mentioning the forum doesn’t even know then if it was still open. It lasted less than a year. No one noticed it and as we have said hardly anyone who has been involved in the Maddie case realised that it even existed.
That alone, shows that no matter how much TNT shouted there, it would be absurd to consider him a relevant figure in the case and much less be considered as someone who filled thread after thread with his Martin Grime obsession (note, not even one of the three topics that NT remembers him by).
How likely does the reader think the sword crossing between TNT and NT on those 3 topics happened there? We would say it would be ridiculous even to think so.
And how memorable would such a sword crossing in 2011 be, having taken place in an unnoticed “forum” that lasted 1 year and be etched on Blacksmith’s memory so that 7 years later he would remember TNT as one of NT’s old friend? We would say not a chance.
Nowhere has this forum been mentioned before and we have been discussing TNT for a while now. not by Blacksmith, not by NT and not by Mr Thompson. Why?
Why did Mr Thompson miss this “forum” when sleuthing the internet looking for proof of life of TNT? He was able to find the 2010 donation and the 2013 tweet of the spoof account?
Note, when we were still debating what FOIs allegedly had or had not been submitted by TNT, NT was very quick to explain with a blog post who had submitted what FOI. But now to provide proof – and rub it in our face – any of the many threads he alleges TNT has filled with his Martin Grime obsession, he remains absolutely silent as far as we know. Not even a tiny little comment. How telling.
At least Mr Thompson was able to provide physical evidence of both the donation and of the tweet from the spoof tweet account. Now we’re all supposed to simply trust the Frog’s words that the topics discussed by TNT were on a closed forum that no one has heard of in 2011. Seriously?
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DeleteWe suspect what happened is that they searched the internet to see what forums were closed down and that no one would have heard about it and so be able to say it was there and no one – due to understandable ignorance – was able to contradict.
We will return to Amazon when we deal with the “identity exposure” topic.
About this prank from the Frog we will say what we said about Mr Thompson’s real hard efforts to try and find “TNT evidence”: it only strengthens our position.
People can read and people can think for themselves.
They can read who we expose, how, why and up to what point we do. And conclude by themselves if we are right or not, if we are getting personal or being case-oriented.
In the exact same way people can read the attacks on us, how and why and then make the same conclusive process.
A reader just has to do following simple exercise: remember an identity, an alias and search for a proof of their life on the internet. It’s very quick and simple if the person was ever active, an impossible task if they weren’t.
And someone is really having a hard time finding proof of life for TNT, aren’t they?
Bringing up the donation and the spoof account tweet was grasping at straws but bringing up the Amazon forum was really grasping at a wasp’s legs. Pushing it too far. A huge faux-pas on the Frog’s behalf.
But, as we said, makes our position stronger and theirs weaker.
Frog, we have noted that you have now come twice in defense of NT.
Please don’t ever forget that whenever one lies, one tells the truth. A lie is only a lie because it is referenced to a truth otherwise it would be just an empty stand-alone statement. So a lie, will always, always show the truth.
One just has to look in the opposite direction of where the lie is telling us to look.
So, thank you again, Frog, for showing us the truth.
It seems that the Frog had provided “proof of life” for the now famous Amazon Forum:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1034118101451911169
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
For the love of God, Textusa..... Note the dates.....I can even list the names of at least 20 posters on Amazon Kate McCann Customer Discussion Forum in 2016/17 #mccann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dlnsnv1XsAASjqS.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlnstVFW4AIzgcd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlnszamXoAAwrJ_.jpg
9:39 am - 27 Aug 2018
[attached 3 screengrabs that we are supposing are from the well-known pro- forum JATYK2 (the Frog can confirm this or not, as we did not go and research there)]
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Can anyone say why would we lie about we not knowing about the Amazon Forum?
Let’s take a step back, and return to the debate about the activity of Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT) being recent or not. We said and maintain that before May 2017 he was a non-entity. No proof of his prolific activity has been shown to date – and please avoid mentioning now the Amazon Forum as the place where he was as no one mentioned that before when they had plenty of time to have done so. If the Forum was so well known and TNT was so well known and the sword-crossing there between NT and TNT was so well known, it should have been brought up immediately and it wasn’t.
By the way, it can now be said that TNT was as prolific a commenter, if not more, as was BucketParrot in the Amazon Forum. Can anyone prove this statement to be false now that the Forum has been closed? No, only we can, as we have just invented the BucketParrot character.
Have we denied the existence of HonestBroker (HB)? Of course not. There’s plenty of proof of this character’s presence on the internet. Have we discarded the possibility of HB being TNT? We haven’t, we’ve said it’s perfectly possible.
Does that change anything about what is at the heart of the importance of TNT? In absolutely nothing. We have even explicitly asked that question in our comment at 24 Aug 2018, 09:58:00: “And the question remains even if Nick Townsend is Honestbroker: in that case how does Blacksmith know that Honestbroker is an “old friend” of NT?”
Back to the Amazon Forum. All the mistakes we have made about it have a simple reason, one we have stated: when we heard it from the Frog we said we didn’t know of its existence so insignificant it was.
That shows the Amazon Forum’s insignificance. We who have followed the case didn’t take any notice. Why would we lie about that? As we’ll see it falls into the same category of if TNT is HB. It matters not one iota.
But there are 2 things that we would like to point out.
Firstly, this tweet exchange:
https://twitter.com/ZaneZeleti/status/1021030022054916096
žane želěti @ZaneZeleti
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @FragrantFrog and 4 others
Some of the stuff Nessling posted on the Amazon K #McCann book review discussion was quite disturbing. Why alarm bells weren’t ringing by those who are supposed to know about pedophiles is quite concerning. IIRC he & Upshon had a Charity which appeared to have endorsements.
6:51 am - 22 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1034097560955355136
Jules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @ZaneZeleti @TheBunnyReturns and 5 others
Well clearly Zane remembers the Amazon forum.. #McCann
8:17 am - 27 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1034121838018916352
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @Jules1602x @ZaneZeleti and 5 others
Would you please tell Zane that the Customer Discussion forum was in a separate place to the Book Review Section on Amazon.? There were at least 5000 posts made on the Kate McCann discussion forum.
9:53 am - 27 Aug 2018
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Isn’t it strange that someone so familiar with the famous Amazon Forum had to be corrected on where it was?
Another proof of the insignificance of this “Amazon Forum”.
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DeleteIt seems that we were wrong again. Amazon did not run only seller forums but also customer ones (we have given our reasons for Amazon to have a sellers’ forum and can honestly see no reason for there ever having been customers’ ones – when there are book reviews – unless they were looking for trouble, which apparently, they got).
These customer forums have also closed, but Amazon doesn’t say the date, so the Frog may have been correct about them having been closed in September 2017:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201929720
Secondly, we hope that the reader has noticed by now that in this debate about TNT’s importance, all the evidence that has been provided has come from the dark side of the Maddie case.
Now, the Frog has presented screengrabs from JATYK2. But HB is a very prominent and known character from the pro-forums, just like Pamela Gurney is on FB, the donation was to Vee8/Nessling and the twitter spoof account was in reference to bonnybraes1, another vile pro.
It’s a quite pleasant feeling to be wrong about what was happening on that side of the internet. Means we weren’t familiar with it and we are glad we aren’t. However, it seems, that many are now revealing that they were very, very familiar with that world.
But, let’s suppose that the now famous Amazon Forum was as known as the gaslighters pretend that it was. And let’s suppose again that TNT is HB.
We ask AGAIN: If Nick Townsend is Honestbroker AND he crossed swords with NT on the Amazon Whichever Forum, does Blacksmith know that Honestbroker is an “old friend” of NT?
What was NT’s alias there? And how did Blacksmith know that alias was NT?
Unpublished Anonymous at 28 Aug 2018,
DeleteApologise for not publishing your comment but unless you have something to back up what you've claimed, publishing what you say would only add up to the noise.
Note, we're NOT saying that it wasn't so, just not publishing for the reason expressed.
To justify having said above “and once @JBLittlemore stopped engaging with him the debate lost credibility as discussing dogs with Jules is as useful as blowing soap bubbles into gale 4 force winds”:
ReplyDeleteWhen Bale says this:
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1031244536415244292
“Michael Walker@Bale2N
Replying to @Jules1602x @Cerb32 and 4 others
If any blood was found it would have been identified. #mccann
11:20 am - 19 Aug 2018”
Jules replies, CORRECTLY in our opinion, with the following:
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1031248821970501632
“Jules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @Bale2N @Cerb32 and 4 others
Keela was a blood dog.. She only alerts to blood...
11:37 am - 19 Aug 2018”
Jules is indeed CORRECT, even more so when previously she had said, in our opinion also CORRECTLY, this:
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1026890560693579776
“Jules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @FragrantFrog @nicktownsend12 @Cerb32
Different dogs.. Work in tandem.. Keela is a blood dog, who alerts to the exact spot of blood.. Who's blood was she alerting to behind the sofa and in the hire car...? #McCann
10:59 am - 7 Aug 2018”
Jules forgets that NT has said:
- on Thursday, 25 June 2015 that “Keela is trained to alert to blood. We don't know what Keela alerted to as no confirmed blood was found in the apartment”;
- on Wednesday, 25 April 2018 that “Keela is trained to alert to the smell of blood. Blood does not need to be present to trigger an alert.”
So saying, as Jules has said:
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1026783957273198592
“Jules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16
Do you think there's maybe been some wires crossed somewhere..? I've read nottextusa's take on the dogs, and can't see where Textusa is coming from... #McCann
3:55 am - 7 Aug 2018”
Means she either has skipped school or is just dragging people into a “truth isn’t truth” debate about the dogs.
So, when Jules says:
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1018628313923883015
“Jules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @Cerb32 and 2 others
Yes Arnie.. Only Walker disses the blood dog... #McCann
3:48 pm - 15 Jul 2018”
She’s wrong. It’s not only ‘Michael Walker@Bale2N’ who disses the blood dog. NT (who Jules says isn’t Bale) disses the blood dog as well, as seen above.
The same Jules who has put the following comment on NT’s blog:
“Jules..15 August 2018 at 13:48
I've just looked at Textusa, as my name was mentioned.. I'm actually shocked she believes Bale2 is the same person from the old Walker account.. She can't be that thick.. Surely..?”
As we said, without someone credible like @Littlemore, or someone else with similar credibility, in a debate about the dogs on the Maddie case, then that debate, as we said, becomes useless.
All the dogs show is that blood and cadaver odour was deposited and where. Not when, whose or how.
DeleteComment on Justice for Madeleine FB group, from one of its admin:
ReplyDelete“Natalie Charlesworth
I tried to tell people about this clown [Textusa] years ago when it posted on here calling half our members McCann supporters for calling the trial a 'liable trial' as opposed to damages. The self righteous fool.”
Comment liked, at the moment by Karen Lowe Sanders, Bohden Chalawaka, Ben Thompson, Kirstie Murray and Nick Kolwaski (Nick/Anon).
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I confirm this. It happened in July 2014 when I started to use FB. We had just written the post “No longer libel, so stop calling it libel”:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2014/07/no-longer-libel-so-dont-call-it-libel.html
So, I saw that in this FB group the damages trial was being called a libel trial – in that group and everywhere else on the internet, reason why we wrote the post.
I wrote a comment saying that they shouldn’t be calling it a libel trial, because by doing so they were helping the McCann legal team with their intention of the trial being seen as libel when it wasn’t.
I was asked by Natalie Charlesworth to delete my comment. I said I didn’t know how to delete a comment, which then I didn’t. Next thing I saw, was that it had been deleted.
Then, we were right and now we’re criticised for being right. Go figure.
It's good to be right against the 'wrong' sort of people, Textusa. Keep up the good work. I do remember you arguing against naming the trial a libel trial - it gave ammunition to the McCann's and distorted what was really going on: they were looking for damages, libel wasn't mentioned.
DeleteAnonymous 28 Aug 2018, 11:27:00,
DeleteAt least we had the comfort of then one person giving us FULL reason on this subject, Sr Amaral:
https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/07/goncalo-amaral-on-mistakes-made-by.html
And it seems that both us and Sr Amaral are wrong. Here is a reply to Natalie Charlesworth by another admin of the group:
Delete“Kirstie Murray
And yet they [Textusa are placing themselves on a pedestal claiming to be right 🤥.......over using big words they don’t understand clapping their hands like a sea lion....the difference is at least the sea lion caught the ball...!”
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There is another person who, according to Justice for Madeleine, is also wrong. From the link above:
“Joana MoraisMonday, July 21, 2014 10:14:00 pm
Few points on questions asked elsewhere
The correct expression for the McCanns lawsuit is "acção de indemnização" that would translate to a "lawsuit for damages and compensation". The trial should be just called simply that or a 'trial for damages' if people feel the need to adjectivate it. The 2009-2012 was a "processo conexo" to this main lawsuit, that is, it was a connected process. The correct name for that connected process it a 'temporary injunction' [providência cautelar], that forbade the book written by Gonçalo Amaral, published by Guerra e Paz and the documentary produced by VC films, broadcast by TVI to be commercialized, injunction which was overturned by the Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa [Lisbon Appeals court] in Oct. 2010. However, with more dilatory legal manoeuvrings, the McCanns were able to delay the return of the book copies to its rightful owners [Guerra e Paz book publishers] until April 2012 when their last appeal to the STJ - Supreme Court of Justice failed. Both book and documentary copies and rights can be sold, distributed, broadcast since the 2010 ruling.”
Is this group really taken seriously?
From our "FB Anon":
Delete"Hi Maria, re the goings on on JFM, I've noticed that the person who suggested Robert Murat was involved has now left the group. I may be wrong but it looks like her comments have been deleted too."
It would seem that Kirstie is the sea lion - oinking and clapping her hands at something she obviously never swatted up on!
DeleteOrlov/ Dave Hall says RM involved and Justice actually posted one of his graphics which suggested that.
DeleteMaybe they didn’t look closely enough?
https://m.facebook.com/InternationalFraud/photos/gm.1848881528541246/1907846432629545/?type=3&source=48&refid=18&ref=group_header&_ft_=qid.6594790536399658849%3Amf_story_key.1848881528541246%3Atop_level_post_id.1848881528541246%3Atl_objid.1848881528541246%3Apage_id.802101759870690%3Asrc.22%3Aphoto_id.1907846432629545%3Apage_insights.%7B%22802101759870690%22%3A%7B%22role%22%3A1%2C%22page_id%22%3A802101759870690%2C%22post_context%22%3A%7B%22story_fbid%22%3A1848881528541246%2C%22publish_time%22%3A1534342457%2C%22story_name%22%3A%22EntGroupMallPostCreationStory%22%2C%22object_fbtype%22%3A657%7D%2C%22actor_id%22%3A802101759870690%2C%22psn%22%3A%22EntGroupMallPostCreationStory%22%2C%22sl%22%3A6%2C%22dm%22%3A%7B%22isShare%22%3A0%2C%22originalPostOwnerID%22%3A0%7D%2C%22targets%22%3A%5B%7B%22page_id%22%3A802101759870690%2C%22actor_id%22%3A802101759870690%2C%22role%22%3A1%2C%22post_id%22%3A1848881528541246%2C%22share_id%22%3A0%7D%5D%7D%7D&__tn__=EH-R
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1034503853830483968
ReplyDeleteBugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @lizyeld @xxMichelleSxx and 4 others
Capital letters doth butter no parsnips. Please could you show evidence of an abduction, and explain why a cadaver dog alerted to Kate McCann's clothing, and why the parents lied about many things, including a break in.
11:11 am - 28 Aug 2018
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Mr Thompson,
We don’t understand your second question – “and explain why a cadaver dog alerted to Kate McCann’s clothing – because we thought you subscribed NT’s theory that as there is no physical residue left in situ the cadaver dog’s alerts – again according to NT – don’t say HOW the scent got to where the dog alerted, meaning that the fact the dog alerted to Kate’s clothes – or to anything else – is meaningless.
So, being from NT’s school of cadaver scent, shouldn’t you not even asked the question, and as you did, you should have answered it yourself with the following, according to that school of thought: the reason why a cadaver dog alerted to Kate McCann’s clothing was chance because she happened, sometime, somewhere, to walk by where the scent of cadaver was floating about, possibly from the airborne molecules in the backyard, and for that reason the alert means nothing.
Some consistency, please...
Mr Thompson,
DeleteYou can always use this comment to support you, as it seems coming from your (or Nt's) school of thought:
"Anonymous28 Aug 2018, 14:02:00
All the dogs show is that blood and cadaver odour was deposited and where. Not when, whose or how."
Whilst it’s correct to say a cadaver dog alert doesn’t tell you who, where or when about a death in a general sense; in the specific case of apartment 5A, it does tell you a lot more.
DeleteThis is an apartment where a child disappeared from on a specific date, where no death had previously occurred, leading to the conclusion that it was highly probably the alert was to a specific person, in a limited time frame, in a particular area of the apartment indicated by the blood dog.
Or it does to me, anyway.
Yes, that highly probable scenario of a death in that apartment and that death being linked to a missing child and nobody else, still required scientific corroboration to be admissible as evidence in the majority of courts ( maybe different in some USA states, but irrelevant in context of Portuguese court).
That scientific analysis by the FSS wasn’t enough, because they failed to test some samples to the limits and Lowe made a comment “ at this stage”, meaning there were more stages possible?
The question about whether a technique called subtraction analysis, referred to by the commentator Scientist- Phillips, could have been used, has never been addressed by the self -described scientist NT, who also would not confirm in the most general and non- identifying terms, what his qualifications are.
But, according to NT, there were other reasons a cadaver dog may have alerted in the apartment- one being that soil can hold traces of ancient burials and that cadaver odour can come from areas other than where the dog alerted. It didn’t have to be coming from a specific spot where the cadaver made contact with a surface.
That’s one position.
The other is that the cadaver dog alerted because a cadaver had touched a surface and that odour emanated from that spot but also dispersed into the air and was detectable to the dog as soon as he arrived at the front door, as Grime noted.
I believe the latter scenario.
Mr Thompson,
ReplyDeleteWe know this issue is off-case. But as you have used your Facebook group (Justice for Madeleine) and Twitter to promote this, we thought you would be interested in promoting it again.
By sheer coincidence, it just happens that NT’s (and yours) concerns with the oceans are shared by Nick Townsend.
Please share away:
https://twitter.com/Ntown1976Nick/status/1033686303659962369
nick Townsend @Ntown1976Nick
@LewisPugh Wow, what a remarkable effort, Lewis. I hope that your endeavour in highlighting this serious problem will, in turn, lead to creative and innovative ways of tackling it so that our oceans and seas may one day be cleaner.
5:03 am - 26 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/Ntown1976Nick/status/1034485274447958016
nick Townsend @Ntown1976Nick
Replying to @LewisPugh
SWIMMING 4 kilometres is as an outstanding feat. I know your purpose is the higher one of drawing attention to a dreadful blight in our oceans and seas. But I hope a note of admiration for your stamina and fitness as well will be accepted in the spirit intended.
9:58 am - 28 Aug 2018
You’re welcome.
The importance of Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT) – Part 3
ReplyDeleteLet’s start with how we finished “The importance of Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT) – Part 2” and recap what we have established so far:
- TNT only started to show activity on the internet in May 2017 but has only been really active as of January this year.
- TNT increases his “Grime obsession” (of which there’s no previous sign) after Blacksmith speaks of him in NT’s blog on July 19.
- Blacksmith, on July 19, says that TNT is an “old friend” of NT, even though we are still to find out where this knowledge comes from.
- Blacksmith has since shown that TNT is also an old friend of his, surprising us by showing he has been quite a prolific user, or at least follower, of pro-forums.
- NT, on July 22, fully recognises that TNT is indeed an “old friend” as Blacksmith had said, details very specifically things that allegedly TNT has said in the past that we couldn’t find;
- NT, on July 22, says that some time before TNT has claimed that he, NT, was a specific person.
Note, above there’s nothing about HonestBroker (HB) or about the now famous then insignificant Amazon Whichever Forum. They are noise, they matter little. And do note that we have allowed for HB to be TNT. No one has proven they are, we simply consider that possibility as valid.
Of the Blacksmith-NT-TNT “love-triangle”, TNT is the least important of all. His role was simply to have given us key to open up the Pandora’s Box and show our readers what is inside it.
We have known for years what was inside it but the ‘TNT-creation’ has allowed us to finally show the Hall of Mirrors that has fooled so many for such a long time.
We have already defined 2 important dates for this affair: Jul 19, when Blacksmith brings TNT to the world and Jul 22, when NT blesses Mr Thompson and reveals that TNT claimed he was a specific person.
Those dates also are important because on Jul 19 Blacksmith says that TNT is an “old friend” of NT and Jul 22 because NT confirms that fact.
But let’s move now to the third important date, Jul 27. When Blacksmith publishes this on NT’s blog:
“john blacksmith27 July 2018 at 04:37
Hello Jules. Some pretty good twitter performances, I must say.
As for Townsend, I think NT has been very restrained here about him. I watched that senile bastard deliberately and cold-bloodedly try and make trouble for NT time after time with carefully constructed stories designed to cause maximum pain to the latter in the same way he's tried to do to Grime.
Being Townsend he misidentified NT. Rather worse, the person he claimed NT is was herself the subject of an absolutely scandalous stalking campaign back in 2007-9 in which an academic McCann sceptic, and a very good poster, was not just named but had her posts sent to her university on numerous occasions along with misinformation,with the sole aim of getting her shamed and sacked from her lectureship.
It was the first instance that most had ever seen of taking internet debate into the realms of hurting people, and that filth Townsend was up to his neck in it: the road that eventually led to the death of Brenda Leyland. He's lucky that he hasn't suffered some very severe retribution for his actions.
Anyway, nice day today.”
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Can the reader see how the above is like landing on a deserted island with a treasure map, finding the X painted on the ground next to a coconut tree, digging the chest up, opening it and finding it full of gems? Because it really is.
To start, after NT having confirmed what Blacksmith has said about TNT being an “old friend”, now Blacksmith confirms that TNT has claimed that NT is a specific person, who he describes in detail: a poster, a McCann critic, a woman, an academic of a university.
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ReplyDeleteOn Jul 22, NT said “He also falsely claimed that I was a specific named person and posted links to their professional profile, email address, phone number etc.” and now Blacksmith not only confirms but adds detail: “not just named but had her posts sent to her university on numerous occasions along with misinformation,with the sole aim of getting her shamed and sacked from her lectureship”.
Has the reader noted the timeline of this “identity exposure”? “…an absolutely scandalous stalking campaign back in 2007-9”.
Immediately it can be seen how ridiculous the entire debate about the importance of the Amazon Whichever Forum. Kate only published her book in 2011 and this claim, so Blacksmith says, was before.
Note, our ignorance about the Amazon Whichever Forum because its insignificance is genuine. It was quite enjoyable watching people twisting and turning and doing all sort of funny pirouettes to turn a whisper into a storm. We just sat back and watched fools doing what they do best: be fools.
We remind readers that NT (Not Textusa) was created in 2013. The NT/Blacksmith friendship goes back obviously before that. As does the Blacksmith/NT/TNT love-triangle. These 3 are indeed old friends.
For Blacksmith to know that TNT was falsely claiming that NT was another person, means he would have to know what alias NT was using THEN. In 2007-2009.
Let’s imagine that NT was using the alias FoamyO’Byrne. TNT’s claim would then have been that FoamyO’Byrne was Professor XX otherwise TNT wouldn’t be claiming anything about NT and Blacksmith says he does.
So, the question is: how would Blacksmith know that FoamyO’Byrne was NT back in 2007-2009?
If it wasn’t FoamyO’Byrne it had to be some other identity and ‘Not Textusa’ hadn’t it. The letter to the Uni had to say that Professor XX was FoamyO’Byrne (or other) on the internet and have attached, if we are to believe Blacksmith, printouts of posts written by her.
We would be important to know in which “Amazon Whichever Forum” this happened, in 2007-2009 before Amazon Whichever Forum existed where it has been claimed that up to now it was where the sword crossing between NT and TNT took place. It seems it was not.
Also, a very important detail to be noted is that according to both NT and Blacksmith, TNT targets BOTH the academic and NT.
Why would TNT pick on FoamyO’Byrne, the alias we have invented for NT the poster then?
Playing along with what they want us to believe, and we are believing in it even more, let’s assume that TNT and HB are the same person.
We have already recognised HB’s prolific presence in the internet at the time, so for HB to have targeted both, it can only mean that both the academic and FoamyO’Byrne were prolific posters, posters who stood out.
About the academic, we will speak on a later date but can say upfront that she was indeed a prolific poster, one we do remember. So, whatever alias NT used then his FoamyO’Byrne would have to have been an equally well known one. We’re curious to know which one it was.
Another thing about what Blacksmith says above, is to make it sound that it is really nasty for it to be claimed one is NT. Why? Isn’t NT the newly discovered anti Messiah?
Note, Blacksmith says on Jul 27 – and NT has said it on Jul 22 – that Professor XX is said to be NT and then details about her sent to her University. It was not simply sending the personal details of this academic to the University but also claiming that she was NT.
(Cont)
(Cont)
ReplyDeleteIf NT was such a good anti, what then would be the problem for it to have been claimed that Professor XX was NT? Apparently, according to Blacksmith, it was a very nasty thing to do.
If Professor XX was a genuine anti, as Blacksmith says she was, then linking her name to NT/ FoamyO’Byrne, also supposed to be genuine anti, shouldn’t be a problem in the eyes of those opposing the McCanns.
Saying that HB was being because Professor XX shouldn’t have been accused of writing anti-McCann postings as it could affect her Uni post doesn’t fit as others then wrote under their real names or had no problems in revealing their identities and didn’t lose their jobs. They risked a lawsuit from the McCann legal team, not their jobs.
And we know today, the McCanns after the dogs entered the scene never had much public support no matter how much the tabloids tried to sell the idea to the contrary. One just has to remember the number of participants and readers in the various Maddie related fora on the internet.
To be outed as a McCann sceptic as was a badge of honour not one of shame. The only fear that existed was the legal one and it was very real as we were all aware that the McCann legal team had us under the microscope. The real fear was of being sued, not of losing a job.
In fact, if NT was such a good anti and Blacksmith has decided to dock his ship at NT’s port, why hasn’t he just said by now “I, under the alias of BucketParrot (or whatever), I’ve known NT, as FoamyO’Byrne (or whatever) since 2007 and since then we have been sharing info between each other”?
But any which way one looks at it, a question remains: if HB wanted to target Professor XX, why include FoamyO’Byrne/NT in the equation?
Unless, of course, HB/TNT or whoever has NEVER pointed a finger at NT. Somebody did expose Professor XX (and was it HB?) but no one linked her to NT.
Yet, BOTH Blacksmith and NT have said that was exactly what happened. We will wait for the evidence showing us wrong.
In 2018, they are using the exposure of Professor XX’s identity, which indeed happened in the period mentioned by Blacksmith, to make NT seem a bone fide anti.
Like when they made the TNT character have an importance he never had, they are trying to make NT the anti, an important one at that, he never was.
As the reader can easily see, Blacksmith and NT have known each other for years.
If the reader believes, as we do, that the internet was and is an important front in this war, then the reader can now understand that the topic “The importance of Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT)” is not only NOT a blog/forum spat but a very important one to fully understand the Hall of Mirrors.
To be continued.
From NT's blog - one of his many victims in his crosshairs. Note the date 28th August: same day as Walker/Bale2 seems to have a go at (Baldy) Bennett. Fascinating to see the similarities, even though NT doesn't do Twitter, apparently.
ReplyDeletehttps://madmaninamac.blogspot.com/2018/08/oh-yes-hes-great-researcher.html
and the final tweet on the subject from Walker/Bale2. We could call them Vicious 1 and Vicious 2.
Michael Walker
@Bale2N
Aug 28
More
Replying to @zampos
They pretended no such thing. Companies are set up all the time for short-term projects. Nothing dummy about it whatsoever. If you read too much into it, that's your problem. #mccann
Anonymous 30 Aug 2018, 10:53:00,
DeleteYes, it is quite fascinating how when he gets into serious down-to-business mode Walker/Bale really sounds like NT, isn’t it?
This was the tweet exchange between Tony Bennett and Bale/Walker:
https://twitter.com/zampos/status/1034471269683671041
Anthony Bennett @zampos
MCCANN CASE IN PHOTOS-1 In 2009, media reports told us the #McCann's private investigation was now run by #DaveEdgar, Head of #AlphaInvestigationsGroup. Except there was NO such entity. #ALPHAIG was a one-man band - just Arthur Cowley in his tiny cottage https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2455-arthur-cowley-s-cottage-hq-of-alphaig …
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dlssl6IXoAUQf04.jpg
9:02 am - 28 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1034517579111510017
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @zampos
Makes no difference where he lived and he can call his business what he desires as long as he conforms to the Law. #mccann
12:06 pm - 28 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/zampos/status/1034555115536039936
Anthony Bennett @zampos
Replying to @Bale2N
But #ALPHAIG was a dummy sole trader company set up by #BrianKennedy and a friend. It didn't trade or advertise. It was closed after a few months. Someone on the #McCann Team PRETENDED to the media that #AlphaInvestigationsGroup was a long-established detective agency. It WASN'T
2:35 pm - 28 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1034556145061511169
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @zampos
They pretended no such thing. Companies are set up all the time for short-term projects. Nothing dummy about it whatsoever. If you read too much into it, that's your problem. #mccann
2:39 pm - 28 Aug 2018
And NT wrote about on his blog. Interesting that both he and Bale/Walker found the need to respond to Mr Bennett on this particular issue.
No, it was not on the “Not Textusa” one, but on another one, this one dedicated to Tony Bennett, one of the many NT has dedicated to other people as it seems that what other people say on the internet is his business but what he and Blacksmith have to say is no one’s business but theirs.
This is what NT said about the subject in the blog:
“So let's see........
It wasn't a dummy company
It wasn't a sole trader, it was a limited company.
There is no indication that it was set up by Brian Kennedy and he was never a director
It wuld appear to have traded as it filed both accounts and an annual return.
It did not close after a few month, it was voluntarily struck off the register of companies after two and a half years.
As for what any member of the McCann team said, that is by the by.”
Interesting that both NT and Bale/Walker had to jump in quickly and defend the Alpha Investigations Group run by Arthur Cowley and Dave Edgar, the duo starring in the “Channel 4 – Madeleine was here” AKA The Mockumentary.
http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2014/04/20/alpha-investigations-group/
It is quite telling when people comment about about people’s appearance. It’s not relevant to anything and it only speaks loads about those who make such comments
DeleteChildish “baldy” jeers suggests a history of schoolboy bullying.
People should argue against the theories and Personal appearance has nothing to do with their theories.
It’s equally childish to refer to Philomena McCann’s size, or Kate’s hands.
What does Blacksmith look like these days? Does he still have a full head of hair? Did kids call him names at school because he wore glasses?
Presumably NT has flowing locks, otherwise why would he be pointing out others who don’t as looking odd?
The importance of Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT)/HonestBroker (HB) – Part 4
ReplyDeleteIt has been established that Not Textusa (NT) and TNT/HB are old friends, Blacksmith says so. We don’t know from when or where but this friendship is as old as Blacksmith’s friendship with NT which has been referenced by Blacksmith himself going back as far as 2007-2009, years before the person calling himself Not Textusa invented the Not Textusa character.
On Jul 22 2018, NT says that TNT has claimed that he was a specific person.
On Jul 27 2018, he confirms what NT has said about TNT claiming he was a specific person, says that claim happened 2007-2009 and goes as far as describing that specific person in detail: a poster, a McCann critic, a woman, an academic of a university.
As far as we know, no one has noticed this but us. We didn’t see anyone mention it.
But then on Aug 12, when Jules decides to promote one of NT’s pathetic blogs – in the case one specifically dedicated to TNT, do read what TNT says when replying to Jules:
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1028546289242439680
“Jules... @AlleyCat666x
For @Ntown1976Nick @nicktownsend12 #McCann …https://stupidtwatobsessedwithgrime.blogspot.com/?m=1 From Mr N.T
12:38 am - 12 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1028549783059943424
“nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @Jules1602x @Ntown1976Nick
"1. Eddie was never taken to the United States." Failed at the first hurdle (that's Sluming!). I have always acknowledged that Eddie was taken to the US, for (I thought) the Sam Parker case, although I know Green Leaper disputes that. (more)
12:52 am - 12 Aug 2018”
Probably and understandably so the reader did not capture it. Subtle, very subtle.
But once the reader reads the tweet exchange that happened between Jules and TNT 3 days later, on Aug 15, then it is easy to understand what has been said above:
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1029803147982786560
“nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @AlleyCat666x @FragrantFrog and 19 others
I get confused with "not textusa" (I'm fairly certain, Sluming).
11:52 am - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/AlleyCat666x/status/1029803767057801216
“Jules... @AlleyCat666x
Replying to @nicktownsend12 @FragrantFrog and 19 others
What's 'sluming'?
11:55 am - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1029803889552510976
“nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @AlleyCat666x @FragrantFrog and 19 others
Vanessa Sluming?
11:55 am - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/AlleyCat666x/status/1029804576923443201
“Jules... @AlleyCat666x
Replying to @nicktownsend12 @FragrantFrog and 19 others
I thought you was a man... (unhappy emoticon)
11:58 am - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1029804715993968641
“nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @AlleyCat666x @FragrantFrog and 18 others
You're slowly getting it right.
11:59 am - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/AlleyCat666x/status/1029805681082355714
“Jules... @AlleyCat666x
Replying to @nicktownsend12 @FragrantFrog and 18 others
I'm confused.. It doesn't take much.. Could you explain..? :)
12:03 pm - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1029806071681114112
“nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @AlleyCat666x @FragrantFrog and 19 others
You have referred to NT (indeed my initials). But also the initials of "Not Textusa" (Sluming). I wasn't sure who you were referring to.
12:04 pm - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/AlleyCat666x/status/1029806868145864709
“Jules... @AlleyCat666x
Replying to @nicktownsend12 @FragrantFrog and 19 others
Ah gotcha.. NT is nottextusa.. Also a man.. :)
12:07 pm - 15 Aug 2018”
https://twitter.com/nicktownsend12/status/1029807532414586880
“nick townsend @nicktownsend12
Replying to @AlleyCat666x @FragrantFrog and 19 others
We agree to differ on that point.
12:10 pm - 15 Aug 2018”
End of tweet exchange.
(Cont)
(Cont)
ReplyDeleteSo, completely unprompted, TNT in on Aug 2018, is clearly claiming that NT is a specific person: Vanessa Sluming.
Confirming what NT had said on Jul 22 and Blacksmith said on Jul 27. And is a woman.
Certainly – NOT – by coincidence, after NT and Blacksmith refer to the episode on Jul this year, and after 11 years (if it was in 2007) or 9 years (if it was in 2009) of silence, TNT/HB after his return decides – very conveniently so – to claim again, and twice, that NT is a specific woman and goes and names her.
The same TNT who, as we have shown, has readily confessed explicitly to be Ferryman and implicitly to be HB as he was accused of being by Mr Thompson.
It’s like one is reading a script and turning the pages.
Do note the fact that TNT feels the need to claim twice that NT is Vanessa Sluming. Needs to make sure we all know that both NT and Blacksmith are right.
It’s Smithman all over again. The need to ensure that he had been seen and so walk deliberately into the Smiths is what makes it transparently clear that it was a fake surprise encounter. In this case, by pressing that he really thinks the NT is Vanessa Sluming as both NT and Blacksmith have said he does, transparently shows how planned all is.
There is one indisputable reason why this woman can’t be NT.
To be continued.
Jules had this to say:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1035193752573419522
Textusa that's actually quite a big lie you've told there.. Again.. That thread started when Sade retweeted it to Nicholas again.. The thread has at least 100 comments... Why lie...? #McCann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl2_MydXsAAMpFB.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl2_NfuXoAAfza8.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl2_OIlWsAUo1pH.jpg
8:53 am - 30 Aug 2018
********
We will leave it up to readers to decide if we lied.
Next time you or NT quote a passage from Kate’s book, please don’t forget to quote it in its entirety.
To NotFrog,
DeleteIt was here that we thought that we would fit in the information you sent via unpublished comment.
As you can see, it turns out that it is unrelated.
The information you sent is pertinent as you know and will be used in a later date, so you know that you haven't been forgotten.
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1035213258129645569
DeleteJules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Tex.. I've just proven you to be a liar love.. I also didn't give you permission to use my pic on fb.. This is all your fault again Nicholas.. Stop winding her up.. She needs help not encouraging.. @Ntown1976Nick #McCann
10:10 am - 30 Aug 2018
*******
Jules,
As far as we could see, you haven’t proven that we are lying that when we said that Nick Townsend on Twitter has claimed, twice that NT was Vanessa Sluming.
What words go before or after that fact, are irrelevant, we showed the tweets that are we thought relevant to prove the point which we will say again: Nick Townsend on Twitter has claimed, twice that NT was Vanessa Sluming.
We have not used your picture on FB. We have in our post put the link to your tweets, which you made PUBLICLY. Facebook picks up one of the links in the text, in this case was one of your tweets, and uses it to enhance the post.
If you have any issues with it, please address Facebook and not us.
Interesting that you have now deleted the tweet which you allege proves that we’re liars. Fortunately we have registered in our comment above at 30 Aug 2018, 17:41:00.
Well, it seems that someone does agree with us that Twitter Nick Townsend has no importance whatsoever:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/xxMichelleSxx/status/1035203597179514880
silverdoe @xxMichelleSxx
Replying to @Jules1602x
Nick is an angry little oompa loompa blinded by hate, whatever is going on I'm not sure but this stuff isn't helping Madeleine, Nick's a blip and not worth worrying about like they seem to be? You're a good person Jules ignore what others say keep doing what you're doing hun (kiss emoticon)
9:32 am - 30 Aug 2018
Jules,
DeleteBy the way, you should know how Facebook works. You are an admin of a group alleging to have almost 38,000 members!
I am watching the mikado game attentively. Sticks have to be removed in order.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1035420051271241728
DeleteJules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @annienonymouss
I must apologise for bringing my response to the tag, but I'm banned from commenting directly to her anywhere and so are my friends.. I delete once she adds them to her blog.. #McCann
11:52 pm - 30 Aug 2018
*******
LOLOLOLOL
Now you can delete this one too!
But what does it have to do with you?
ReplyDeleteIt's none of your business.
Anonymous 30 Aug 2018, 16:02:00,
DeleteWhat business is it of yours to query what business is it of ours?
Or are you from a blog or forum who has a monopoly on deciding what business it is of theirs?
Unpublished Anonymous at 18:08:00 30, 18:11:00 30 and 18:23:00
DeleteWe are wasting your time? Why bother reading us? Nobody is forced to read the blog.
It seems we have not just touched a nerve here, but have fired it off.
You have said a thousand times that we only have 6 readers. You have also said a thousand times that our readers are leaving. That means that by now, best case scenario, we only have 2 readers by now.
One is loving it and the other can’t wait for the next chapter. All you others who have spoken to me, go away, you’re not our readers. NT and his lick-spittle gang say you aren’t and anything they say, however ridiculous it is, has to be. Sorry. LOL.
It's business they're obviously interested in otherwise they wouldn't be here!
DeleteAbout this obsession that NT has shown about what is or is not our business we have a confession to make: we said we invented the alias “FoamyO’Byrne” and we didn’t.
DeleteIt was NT who invented it. On Monday, Aug 27 he wrote this:
“I would simply like to add that the response to Textusa's demands for answers is, and will remain as follows:
F O A M Y O B Y R N E
Yes, that's right. You will be referred to Foamy O'Byrne.
Fuck
Off
And
Mind
Your
Own
Business
You
Ridiculous
Nosy
Eejit”
When we linked “FoamyO’Byrne” to NT like we did in our comment we were simply sending the parcel back to the sender.
We are confessing to this appropriation because it shows NT’s obsession with what is or not our business.
Guess who also has an obsession about things being or not the business of people? This character:
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1003538319404425217
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @artist_mystic
What business is it of your what the #mccann s chose to put on their site?
12:25 am - 4 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1003690525835366401
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @artist_mystic
It's none of your business. You have no part in the investigation. What #mccann s put on their website is up to them only.
10:30 am - 4 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1003735219118182403
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @artist_mystic
I offer full refunds to all UK taxpayers who are disgruntled with OG. In the meantime the way the police and the #McCann s conduct themselves is none of your business. XXX
1:28 pm - 4 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1004640739685470208
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @may_shazzy @_citykitty_ and 2 others
All children are left alone sometime. All. #mccann s parenting choices are none of your business. Fact. Don’t like it? Tough.
1:26 am - 7 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1009759518341943296
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @Caesar2207 @may_shazzy and 4 others
What business are the #McCann s private finances of yours?
4:26 am - 21 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1015466840846413825
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @TomMooreAtHome
Expenditure of the charitable fund is none of your business. Xxx #mccann
10:25 pm - 6 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1020427190930984960
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @Jules1602x @FragrantFrog and 6 others
Parental choice. No one’s business but the #McCann s.
2:56 pm - 20 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1023675430933590017
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @SebastianTomCat
What business is it of yours? #mccann
2:03 pm - 29 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1028404215474003970
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @TonyMiles73 @LoveTextusa and 12 others
Why would they? What #mccann s chose to do is in fact none of your business.
3:14 pm - 11 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1005402285432811521
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @artist_mystic @JustPamalam
How the #McCann s choose to relieve themselves of their torment is none of your business. Amazing how arseholes on Twitter try to control others. XXX
3:52 am - 9 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1005441096225345536
Michael Walker @Bale2N
What the #mccann s and family chose to do is none of your business. Keep your nose out. XXX
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfQLS6yX4AE1Tms.jpg
6:26 am - 9 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1011715381902397442
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @TonyMiles73 @AdirenM @metpoliceuk
Expenditure of the charitable fund (of which the #McCann s are the single biggest contributors) is none of your business. You got one thing right. XXX
1:58 pm - 26 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1014568693219627009
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @TonyMiles73 @Cerb32 and 4 others
The live investigation is none of your business. I give full refunds to all UK taxpayers who are disenchanted with Operation Grange. XXX #mccann
10:56 am - 4 Jul 2018
(Cont)
(Cont)
Deletehttps://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1015469834912575489
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @strackers74 @FragrantFrog and 8 others
You have no idea why he remains on the site, nor is it any of your business. #mccann
10:37 pm - 6 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1015774064093298688
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @mojos55
The fund is a charitable fund to find the #mccann child only. What business is it of yours why she resigned? Does she report to you? Do you have to approve?
6:46 pm - 7 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1018828412595601411
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @mccannscamexpos
A BBQ, how common. #mccann s parenting choices are none of your business. Crèches bring children on. You wouldn’t understand. Burgers? XXX
5:03 am - 16 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1020623932859219968
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @ericson_niklas @FragrantFrog and 6 others
Well post it then? There were plenty of traces of her in 5a. What they choose to take photographs of is none of your business. What work? It was play. #mccann
3:58 am - 21 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1022890940388843521
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @paultessterry
No back tracking Sunbeam. The charitable fund was to help all the #McCann s. Still, expenditure is none of your business.
10:06 am - 27 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1027466959984762881
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @DavidHuddo @Cerb32 and 3 others
They didn’t change stories nor wipe their phones. It’s none of your business what photos they chose. #mccann
1:09 am - 9 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1035247465631506433
Michael Walker @Bale2N
Replying to @neilsco91038181
None of your business to be honest. XXX #mccann
12:26 pm - 30 Aug 2018
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Just another “coincidence” between NT and Walker/Bale.
Hmmm… what did Kate McCann say about coincidences?
One could almost say it's business as usual for Walker/Bale and NT....
DeleteWasting their time are you?
ReplyDeleteNarcissism at its most flagrant.
Everything revolves around them.
Their time is more valuable than yours.
They are entitled to your consideration.They make demand and issue orders.
Non-compliance makes them angry.
Still here enjoying your blog, TEXTUSA. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteA reader.
Me too! .....the other reader.
ReplyDeleteBampots
'FOAMYOBYRNE... in our comment we were simply sending the parcel back to the sender'
ReplyDeleteBrilliant, genuine LOL
That makes three of us! A reader from Europe...
ReplyDeleteApplause from your number four reader...
ReplyDeleteAs our readers know, since our decision of the blog publishing posts, the blog has taken on some issues that for various reasons, have been put on hold because we had to take on new topics.
ReplyDeleteFor example, one topic we have put in this situation was the equivalence of, or absence thereof, the arguido status in the UK. We promised to return to it and we will.
Today we are returning to it and only for this comment. We will continue with the topic of showing the importance of TNT, which we consider to be the most relevant topic to deal with at the moment, especially with September coming.
We just would like to mention to 2 statements made by recently by Blacksmith about the Portuguese Justice System and the arguido status.
The first statement was published on NT’s blog at 22 August 2018 at 16:53:
“My point in quoting the court evidence that all case files, except those of sex offenders, had been released is not that it is true but the reverse. We know the officer was in error from the UK's firm stance in 2008 that they would under no circumstances accept Portuguese publication of files that they had helped prepare.”
For us, this is even a greater insult to Portugal than was that the infamous sardine-munching comment by Tony Parsons in 2007: “
“And I would respectfully suggest that in future, if you can't say something constructive about the disappearance of little Madeleine, then you just keep your stupid, sardine-munching mouth shut.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/oh-up-yours-senor-516864
One must wonder in what reality Blacksmith lives in to think the PJ would take orders from the UK about what was to be or not included in the files before they were submitted to a PORTUGUESE magistrate for decision.
Only a person living in some kind of alienated reality could come up with such a thing – that the ‘native’ PJ would subjugate itself to the orders from the British because they are from the British.
The second statement was made on his blog today “And no, you didn't have to be made an arguido to be questioned as a suspected person in a case”.
It just shows a cringeworthy ignorance.
Just like Tony Parsons who shows his absolute ignorance by using the Spanish “Senor” instead of the Portuguese “Senhor”, Blacksmith show a total ignorance of the word he uses.
Arguido has to do with guarantee of rights. One HAS to be made arguido to be questioned as a suspected person in a case. Not up for debate. Anyone familiar with the case knows it by now. Apparently, Blacksmith doesn’t.
The Frog seems to know about her legal Portuguese stuff:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/990592629992841217
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @xxMichelleSxx @paultessterry
Kate was made an arguida in order for her to answer questions about events after 5.30pm on 3/5. Questions re. earlier events were asked as a witness. Status changed overnight 6/7 Sept. All in the files. #mccann
7:04 am - 29 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/paultessterry/status/990593324603138049
Paul Terry @paultessterry
Replying to @FragrantFrog @xxMichelleSxx
Correct!! She was a suspect rather than witness #mccann
7:07 am - 29 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/990594290425450498
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @paultessterry @xxMichelleSxx
She wasn't a suspect in the crime of abduction, for which Murat was granted arguido status & many others were suspected. #mccann
7:10 am - 29 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/paultessterry/status/990596845834514432
Paul Terry @paultessterry
Replying to @FragrantFrog @xxMichelleSxx
What crime was she suspected id being involved in? #mccann
7:21 am - 29 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/990597694681944065
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
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Replying to @paultessterry @xxMichelleSxx
Concealing Madeleine's dead body and/or knowledge of her death.
7:24 am - 29 Apr 2018
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The Frog is being specious on one thing: when implying that Robert Murat was made arguido because he was a suspect of abduction, when the McCanns were not. The statement is factually correct but misleading.
To be a suspect of some crime, 2 things have to be present: the matter of fact and the matter of law.
The matter of fact is what one is suspected of having done, the act itself, and the matter of law is in what way that act has broken the law.
However, life is always very complex. Unless the criminal was caught red-handed, it’s required for an investigation to determine with more precision the matter of fact.
For example, with Maddie, she disappeared (that’s a matter of fact) but the remainder details of the matter of fact (why, how, when, where and by who) needed to be determined with more precision. The factual framework needed to be better determined so as to be able to see what matter of law is appropriate.
And that’s why the Frog is right because there are significant differences in the matter of fact between when Robert Murat was made arguido and when the McCanns were so.
Let’s start with the McCanns and why they were not suspects of abduction: the dogs. The dogs make the McCann suspects, so abduction in terms of matter of fact is not being considered when questioning them but, as the Frog says, only being considered “concealing Madeleine's dead body and/or knowledge of her death” and whatever else would in terms of matter of fact added as consequence of further investigation within this line of inquiry.
When Robert Murat was made an arguido, the only matter of fact that had been determined was that Maddie had disappeared.
So, when Murat was made an arguido it was based on the matter of fact of a “whatever has to do with Maddie’s disappearance” and in that “whatever” abduction was included, but also body concealment and knowing of her death and whatever other facts the investigation would determine would be included in “whatever has to do with Maddie’s disappearance”.
From our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"Can anyone else hear the sound of the bottom of the barrel being scraped with that latest pile of drivel from NT? I thought he was a SCIENTIST who dealt with FACTS?? Oh and apparently he’s really upset that someone has been mean to Lesly, even though NT was calling Lesly a “fucktard” only a few months ago."
The importance of Twitter Nick Townsend (TNT)/HonestBroker (HB) – Part 5
ReplyDeleteAs we showed in Part 4 and quoting ourselves:
“So, completely unprompted, TNT in Aug 2018, is clearly claiming that NT is a specific person: Vanessa Sluming.
Confirming what NT had said on Jul 22 and Blacksmith said on Jul 27. And it is a woman.
Certainly – NOT – by coincidence, after NT and Blacksmith refer to the episode on Jul this year, and after 11 years (if it was in 2007) or 9 years (if it was in 2009) of silence, TNT/HB decides to after return to his claim that NT is a specific person and names her.”
However, the above is not true, not in terms of the interval of time it took for TNT/HB to make his claim again.
Not true because, allegedly, it took less than 9 or 11 yrs for TNT/HB to decide to return to his claim that NT is a specific person.
We know this because there is/was a poster called ‘Watcher’ who claims that HB has claimed the exact same thing about him before Jul 2018.
This took place in a forum called “The Discussion Forum” (TD Forum). Has the reader ever heard of it? We haven’t either.
By the number of views of their threads, it seems that not many people have also:
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/f1-the-mccann-case
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/f1p50-the-mccann-case
But anyway, on March 30 – 4 months before that little dialogue on NT’s blog between NT, Blacksmith, Mr Thomson and Jules – Watcher has this to say in a thread called “ A little word for the Stop the Myths forum and whoever moderates it - if anyone is a member, please forward this to them” in that forum:
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/t109-a-little-word-for-the-stop-the-myths-forum-and-whoever-moderates-it-if-anyone-is-a-member-please-forward-this-to-them#1587
”by Watcher on Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:41 pm
Honestbroker has spent years claiming that I am a specific named academic from Liverpool University.
His claims on Amazon resulted in the police being involved and Amazon removing his lies - as you will appreciate, Amazon, unlike Halfwitbroker, are privvy to my private details and were able to confirm that I was not the person he was claiming I was.
Whoever moderates STM - I suggest you remove honestbroker's claims. I still have copies of all the correspondence as regards this matter and if those posts are not removed I will be contacting the police again and the forum hosts.
Cheers.”
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Please note the date. Watcher says clearly that THT/HB’s claim happened in Amazon. Amazon had closed in October 2016 as we have seen.
So, according to Watcher, we now know that it less than 9 or 11 yrs for TNT/HB to decide to return to his claim that NT is a specific person.
TNT/HB has not made this allegation only in 2007-2009 and then in Aug 2018, he did it sometime between 2011 (when Kate published her book) and October 2016 (when “Amazon Whishever Forum” was closed). And also on or just before March 30, 2018 on the pro-forum Stop the Myths.
If we are to believe what NT has said about TNT/HB, one would think that TNT/HB’s obsession was with outing NT’s identity rather than with Martin Grime, as we have seen proof of his obsession for NT while we still have to see any evidence of his obsession for Martin Grime.
And it seems TNT/HB has lost his obsession for Martin Grime completely, as @Ntown1976Nick, the account he’s now using, has only mentioned Martin Grime 2 times in August!
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ReplyDeleteBack to Watcher, we are not doing any guesswork when we state that he’s NT.
Under the “Twitter Nick Townsend” context the allegations made by Watcher coincide with those he’s alleged to have made in the past: NT is a specific person, an academic. By the way we now have the new detail that the named academic is from Liverpool University.
And if the reader has any doubts about whether Watcher is NT, all the reader has to do is to visit the thread called “The Smith Sighting Revisited” dated Mar 14 this year, where NT/Watcher disses the Smiths by suggesting the Smith sighting could be out by an hour. He would copy and paste ipsis verbis to his blog on a later date.
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/t107-the-smith-sighting-revisited
We have now found one of NT’s “FoamyO’Byrne”: Watcher.
It proves that NT posts under other aliases. Watcher is one but who knows what other FoamyO’Byrnes may be out there for us to discover. We have already mentioned one: Walkercan1000 who is now Bale2N.
And we also get find out what he was up to during his long break. When he came back from it, he said this on Dec 11 2017, on his blog:
“Hello all, long time no see
I haven't bothered blogging as, frankly, there wasn't anything worth blogging about.”
Now we know that between May 2016 and December 2017, there was nothing worth blogging about because he was so busy publishing in forums. Oh, and also busy on Twitter, as Walker (Bale did not exist then) no matter how much he tries to deny this.
We don’t remember ever seeing any poster going by the name of Watcher back in 2007-2009. If there was one, he wasn’t relevant.
As we have seen, for TNT/HB to have targeted BOTH the academic and NT, it meant that whatever FoamyO’Byrne NT used then would have been noticed as he would have been a relevant poster. At least a poster as relevant as the academic was.
So, NT’s FoamyO’Byrne in 2007-2009 was not Watcher, it was some other FoamyO’Byrne. We are still waiting for either Blacksmith or NT to tell us what it was.
Also note how NT does a Walker/Bale: Walker/Bale doesn’t visit “hate” sites and NT/Watcher says he doesn’t visit Stop The Myths (STM). He shows this by asking someone else to take his message there.
We have seen in other forums people registering just to file in personal complaints. New posters we have in the past read them saying “I’ve just registered to say…” and they complain about they have to complain. A one-time complaining poster.
Wouldn’t it have been expected for NT/Watcher to become a one-time complaining poster at STM and suggest (or demand) that STM admin take down TNT/HB’s claim that he, NT, was the academic from Liverpool University?
It would be but he prefers to do a Bale/Walker and asks for someone to serve as a messenger for him.
And it seems that the connection between the pro-forum Stop The Myths and this unheard of and very recent TD Forum is very, very close because after just 4 hours and 11 minutes, NT/Watcher publishes this on the TD Forums:
“by Watcher on Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:52 pm
The offensive posts have now been removed. Many thanks.”
Fascinating. There must be a bi-lateral agreement between these 2 forums like there seems to be one currently between NT, Blacksmith and the Justice for Madeleine FB group.
In just 4 hours a very well-known pro-forum concedes to the request from someone outside, from an unheard of Forum, taking that person’s side in detriment of one of its most important and prominent members, TNT/HB.
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ReplyDeleteThis concession is even more astonishing when one remembers that TNT/HB and NT were old friends since the 2007-2009 times, to the point of TNT/HB being obsessed with outing NT.
It would be like Mr Thompson asking someone form Justice for Madeleine FB group to go ask CMOMM admin to take down a post from Mr Bennett about Mr Thompson that he didn’t like and then we all see that post disappear in 4 hours. Does this have any similarity with reality? If the reader thinks it does, could the reader please ask the Mad Hatter for some more tea? Thank you.
Can the reader see a pattern here? How many times has NT shown that he truly believes that if he demands that someone take something down, that person will take it down immediately just because he has demanded it? We’ve lost count. Now, please scroll up and read again what he has come up with, thinking he was describing a realistic scenario just because he thinks it is: he suggests that STM do something and STM simply does.
But let’s look attentively at this TD Forum.
It was created on Oct 10, 2017.
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/t1-your-first-subject
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/t4-welcome-to-everybody
So, as we said, a very recent forum. And it seems that its existence seems to be related with the closure of the insignificant but now famous Amazon Forum.
To see the relationship that we believe exists between them, one just has to read the 5 posts of the thread called “Amazon Forums Crashed?”:
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/t7-amazon-forums-crashed
#1 - ”by Admin2 on Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:35 pm
I have just tried to post on Amazon, and it keeps asking for a 'pen name'.
Seems like Friday the 13 th has come early.”
#2 - ”by Admin2 on Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:29 am
Only Vasco seems to have been able to post on Amazon last night , after 8 pm.
I don't know if anyone else has tried last night or this morning, but it does seem Amazon discussions have come to an end.
Meanwhile, you can still review products and make comments on reviews.”
#3 - ”by CPN on Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:26 am
I think it is deliberate, Admin. Everyone's name has been reduced to "a customer" Basically they have closed a day early with no advance warning”
#4 - ”by Texty on Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:40 pm
It's back online , probably temporarily, if anyone wants to add a final message.”
#5 - “ by Lyall on Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:02 am
Gone for good now. Amazon Apocalypse ”
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It seems then that Amazon announced the closure on Oct 13 (so we were right Frog, it was in October and not in September) and the TD Forum was created 3 days earlier, on Oct 10.
It seems that as of Oct 11 the posting on Amazon became limited and then it closed definitely on Oct 14.
It also seems that the TD Forum was where the posters from the Amazon Forum migrated into.
As we have already mentioned, judging by the number of views on this new forum, one can easily see that by comparison the “Amazon Whichever Forum” clearly did not have the importance NT and his lick-spittle gang have tried to convince us that it had.
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ReplyDeleteIt seems that NT/Watcher joined the TD Forum on Oct 13 2017:
“Watcher
Posts : 83
Join date : 2017-10-13
Location : No 10 Downing St - oh crap, I wasn't supposed to say!”
And who else joined this same forum on the same day? A poster called AJS:
“AJS
Posts : 55
Join date: 2017-10-13”
And why is this interesting?
Because AJS posts this on Oct 14, in a thread called “was it right that the McCanns left the children alone?” (our caps):
http://thediscussionforum.forumotion.com/t5-was-it-right-that-the-mcanns-left-the-children-alone
“by AJS on Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:30 am
Grom wrote:This is what Jane Tanner said;
[quoting Grom] I think we decided before we went, one of the attractions of a Mark Warner holiday was the baby listening service that they normally offer.”
4078 “Yeah.”
Reply “And we did know that they didn’t offer it, offer it there and we sort of thought, at that point we thought we can either do it between ourselves and one night one couple you know stay back and then do the baby listening or, but then when we found where we were and the proximity to the restaurant we just sort of thought if we are checking and doing the baby listening as is done in other Mark Warner resorts we should be okay,
JANE_TANNER_ROGATORY [end of quote]
Hi. I am not disagreeing with you but I long ago gave up any chance of getting near the truth of these claims because they are so obviously conflicting and self-interested. As you know, KM claimed that she came to PDL believing it was perfectly safe and Oldfield is incoherent on the subject. I no longer bother to stay with the documents on a daily basis since our side won - life is short - but IN THE CRACKED MIRROR I DEALT WITH THE VARIOUS CLAIMS IN SOME DETAIL.
The burden of my post is that there is lying involved on this subject so the truth is not accessible by passive reading but only by cross examination or interviewing. That is where my emphasis differs from some others on this subject: those others whose emphasis is on child protection may wish to wrestle further with the conflicts. I see it merely as an opening through which police questioners can enter.
The Nine have always steadfastly denied that they covered-up or made agreements not to talk about anything during that week; KM's statement in Madeleine makes that denial unsustainable: either she or the others are lying about one aspect of what happened in PDL. That, of course, invalidates all claims of abduction immediately, since they are the witnesses claiming it. It could have been doughnuts that they were fibbing about for all I care: what matters is the open door to examining what else they were not being frank about.”
The Cracked Mirror was a blog by Blacksmith:
http://madeleinemccannaffair.blogspot.com/
So, as it was no guesswork to state that Watcher is NT, it isn’t as well to state that AJS is Blacksmith.
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ReplyDeleteNow, one just has to read through the threads and see how close the duo NT/Watcher and Blacksmith/AJS is there. They keep scratching each other’s backs.
Only, this solid and close friendship was unknown to the rest of the world. And, apparently, dates back to 2007 – 2009.
The Frog warned all of us, first on Jul 5:
“https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1014974436905275392
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86 @xxMichelleSxx and 3 others
See A. versus State of Norway. Classic example. Say hello to Watcher & Antonio from me. :)
1:48 pm - 5 Jul 2018”
And then the Frog did it again on Jul 27 (the day Blacksmith puts the comment about TNT/HB claiming that he was an academic woman):
“https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1022964469960503298
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @Jules1602x @SadeElisha86 and 8 others
The madmaniac link - at the bottom - the author's dog!! Watcher & Antonio (NT & JB to you). Thought you didn't drink?
2:58 pm - 27 Jul 2018”
If we were to say a year ago that NT and Blacksmith would be working side by side, would anyone believe us? No, not even we would believe in ourselves.
And much less believe that they were already working together then. But they were.
And to who do we owe this knowledge to? To Twitter Nick Townsend.
By creating him, or best said by deciding to start using him, they unveiled before our eyes the Hall of Mirrors that the internet has always been.
An unimportant character who turned out to be one of the most important in the Maddie case.
Unimportant because he is just one more instrument played by a multi-instrumentalist and the character is just a shadow of what he was planned to be at the moment and is currently on a life support machine called Jules.
Important because he has shown how anti Blacksmith and pro NT have always been.
Let’s just sum up for now about what we know so far about the specific person TNT/HB claims that NT is:
- in 2007-2009 was McCann sceptic poster;
- a woman;
- an academic;
- worked at Liverpool University, to where her personal details and posts published were sent;
- was called Vanessa Sluming
We got all this from NT, Blacksmith, TNT/HB and Watcher.
To be continued.
Creepy lot. NT, Blacksmith and the rest of the gang HAVE to be paid to keep at this.
DeleteNow that we know who Watcher is, it’s quite interesting to notice when was the first time and on what terms the Frog mentions him by this “FoamyO’Byrne” on Twitter:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/BourgeoisViews/status/959072422736646144
BourgeoisViews @BourgeoisViews
Replying to @Darth_Murid @FragrantFrog and 5 others
Paragraph 2 also has provision for contradicted evidence which the case against #AmandaKnox was. That exonerated Amanda.
6:34 am - 1 Feb 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/959445683550998528
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @Darth_Murid @BourgeoisViews and 5 others
I'm sure you get your kicks thinking that I am one of those people - but I'm not. You're a bit sick in the head, Watcher.
7:17 am - 2 Feb 2018
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@BourgeoisViews, another one of NT’s FoamyO’Byrnes?
This is hilarious. You are basically the only person in the world to take this long to figure it out. We've been telling you he's Watcher for months 😂
ReplyDeleteCould you please show us where?
DeleteFrom you, all we could see was this:
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1034158969953107968
SadeElisha @SadeElisha86
Replying to @ZaneZeleti @Jules1602x and 6 others
Watcher is no pro Zane, trust me x #mccann
12:21 pm - 27 Aug 2018
From Jules, we found this:
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1014974980566716416
Jules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @FragrantFrog @SadeElisha86 and 4 others
Lets all wave to Watcher and Antonio.. 👋
1:51 pm - 5 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Jules1602x/status/1023375748952981506
Jules... 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @Jules1602x
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @FragrantFrog and 2 others
Well that was all very interesting.. Let's all now wave to Watcher... 👋
6:12 pm - 28 Jul 2018
From Mr Thompson, we found nothing.
From NT’s blog:
Delete“Jules..26 July 2018 at 15:02
Thank you.. I'll not be any bother.. I'm more a watcher... “
And a comment from Blacksmith (our caps) :
“john blacksmith 26 June 2018 at 11:20
(…)
Bottom of the table Ruritania seem to have lost all belief since its recent run of humiliations, with rumours of tension in the dressing room and desertion by the fans. Striker and tactical mastermind Titsuser was carried off after a truly awful kick in the head from “Chopper” WATCHER at centre back. No red card was awarded. VAR confirmed that had WATCHER aimed at the buttocks then brain damage was possible but since he’d gone safely for thick tissue it would be “unfair” to penalise him, despite the blood. As usual, left back Guedes was only semi-engaged. The Sicko-Fante twins – showing up all over the pitch – proved that belief rather than talent is not enough, with the younger one scoring an unprecedented own goal from the opponents’ half.
Titsuser (OG) 2 Sicko-Fante, P, (OG) Sicko-Fante, J, (OG) WATCHER 1
(…)”
Waiting for you to tell us where you have said, months ago, that NT was Watcher.
It seems Sade and Jules knew who Watcher was before you did, showing they’re all in the know together.
DeleteOn a rather obscure site.
No doubt told by Blacksmith.
Why was this site never mentioned on their FB group?
Do they agree the Smith sighting could be out by a whole hour later?
Curious to find out why Sluming can’t be NT.
Anonymous 1 Sep 2018, 17:48:00,
DeleteCould you please explain where Sade and Jules knew who Watcher was?
If you're basing that on the tweets, please take into account that Jules' are on the same day that the Frog mentions Watcher.
The first tweet from Jules is 3 minutes after the Frog says "Say hello to Watcher & Antonio from me. :)" and the second is the day after the Frog says "Watcher & Antonio (NT & JB to you)" to Jules and Sade and so is quite far from being any kind of acknowledgement from either of them that Watcher refers to NT and Antonio to Blacksmith.
From Sade's tweet, she only recognises that she knows who Watcher is. The tweet not only is from a few days ago, and not months, as in no way is she saying in it that Watcher is NT.
We will wait patiently for her to provide evidence as to when they - yes, we also noticed the recognition of the gang - said that NT was Watcher.
Textusa,
DeleteThey didn’t show that.
They didn’t say Watcher was NT
I think I guessed it was probably a ref to him but didn’t know he was using that name on another site.
I assumed Blacksmith gave him the name in the football game but didn’t understand why. I thought it was a private joke.
They’re just saying they knew all along who Watcher was.
If they did know, somebody told them or they were also commenting on that site using other names.
As they are all pals, I’m sure they share info. And all slap each other on the back, using terms like - the excellent ...
NT, JFM and Blacksmith have now discovered the ship that has sailed 10 years ago: the McCanns lied!
ReplyDeleteAnd the sails are tattered and torn.
I’m sticking to the ones that dont play games!! Going to leave the children in the playground.
ReplyDeleteSeriously what are they playing at...... remember Maddie?
Textusa you know your stuff! Keep on doing what you do brilliantly.
We have received a comment from an Anonymous (who is NT) at 2 Sep 2018, 00:55:00.
ReplyDeleteWe will not publish in its entirety but just quote partially the first sentence: “As you have quoted a comment from ‘Texty’, now is probably a good time to enlighten you that ‘Texty’ is a shortened form of ‘Textuseless’, which as you might now gather, was an allusion to Textusa’s…”
NT,
1. For you to have to explain this, just shows the insignificance of the Amazon and Discussion Forums.
2. The fact that you felt the need to explain this, also shows how much you recognise their utter insignificance.
https://twitter.com/AndyFish19/status/1036305420154032128
ReplyDeleteAndy Fish @AndyFish19
I couldn't give a toss what anyone says! The Smiths saw Gerry & the whole Tannerman nonsense was made up on the spot! That's a fact! #McCann #McFact #Cheers
10:30 am - 2 Sep 2018
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Andy Fish needs to check facts with NT who says Smith’s timings could be out by an hour.
Interesting to see Pamela Gurney jump in to hep NT and Blacksmith. Her comments in our FB page:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/bronte.textusa/posts/1352530924883555?comment_id=1353359361467378¬if_id=1535896347901847¬if_t=feed_comment
“Pamela Gurney:
Maria what are you waffling on about woman? The stuff you have written about this case is beyond a joke and I have just read out one such article to my husband who was utterly disgusted by it, as is anyone who has read it.
Leave the investigation to the police who have both deemed the couple McCann and their friends to be not suspects nor persons of interest. you will not change that.
Some articles are just so involved and lengthy most people wouldn't even bother reading them. Your mind goes to some very strange places.”
“Pamela Gurney:
Read a bit more of the above.....non-important claptrap Maria. You spend an inordinate amount of your life analysing rubbish! It's twitter my dear....who cares? It is nowhere near as bad as the things you have written for all and sundry t read. Maybe you need some help to get your head sorted?”
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In a blog comment/FB post that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the investigation of the case but is TOTALLY limited to the internet and to exposing the Hall of Mirrors it is by showing the tactics used by some there – to be precise NT and Blacksmith, Pamela Gurney who has only addressed us once in the past, comes in guns blazing.
The Portuguese say that it’s impossible to please Greek and Trojans but it seems, at least apparently, that it’s possible to displease both Greeks and Trojans. That would be so if in this tale the Greeks were indeed Greeks and the Trojans were indeed Trojans and as we’ve come to understand, that is not the case at all.
Well, whatever next!?
DeleteQuoting ourselves from the comment we made at 2 Jul 2018, 17:41:00:
Delete"On a post called “And now for something completely different. Again.”, published on Monday, 19 October 2015, NT says this about Gurney:
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-v.html
“Pamela Gurney is 85”
We REALLY would like to know how NT knows Pamela Gurney’s age."
*****
We must say that we continue to be curious about this.
For NT Pamela Gurney is 85 and Baldy is 67 and whatever ��
DeleteUnpublished Anonymous at 7 Sep 2018, 10:35:00,
ReplyDeleteThank you.
Yes, we have known for some time.
The indisputable fact that shows that NT is not Dr Vanessa Sluming, is what we are going to deal with in our next and final part of the "Importance of TNT/HB".
We are simply giving them time to react, giving them the opportunity to speak, so when later they try - as they have done about NT being Watcher (still waiting to be shown when it was...) - and tell us "we told you so months ago" we can pinpoint exactly when was it the "told you so months ago" happened.
The Frog and Mrs Fenn, who as we have seen previously the Frog thinks she’s lied:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1037672852038868992
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @zampos @Bale2N
I understood the crying to have been going on at the time the phone call to Murat was made i.e. after Madeleine had disappeared. Nothing to do with Mrs Fenn.
5:04 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1037695291758141440
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @zampos @Bale2N
Why do you conclude it must be Mrs Fenn? She was not a foreigner to Murat. Furthermore there is no record of her number calling Murat's landline or mobile. #mccann
6:33 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1037705121688432645
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @zampos @jules1602x @Bale2N
KM 4/5/07 She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The interviewee states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom.
7:12 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/zampos/status/1037711479506649089
Anthony Bennett @zampos
Replying to @FragrantFrog @Bale2N
I agree there's no record of a call by #PamelaFenn to #RobertMurat or anyone else, save Edna Glyn. But I'd also have to question how Murat knew about an alleged crying incident when no-one else seems to have heard it & there were no other reports about it until 18 August #McCann
7:37 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1037713267463016449
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @zampos @Bale2N
Possibly because the caller was a foreign tourist (perhaps Dutch or German) & they had one of the business cards Murat was busy distributing as he helped the GNR? IMO the crying was happening around the time of the phone call i'e. well after the disappearance.
7:44 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/zampos/status/1037743037731008513
Anthony Bennett @zampos
Replying to @FragrantFrog @Bale2N
Not with you. You wrote: "The crying was happening around the time of the 'phone call". The ALLEGED crying was on 1 May. Madeleine #McCann was reported missing 3 May. #PamelaFenn says she called Edna Glyn on 1 May. Are you suggesting the 'foreign woman' phoned Murat AFTER 3 May?
9:43 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1037746809752432640
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @zampos @Bale2N
Yes, after 3rd May, when he was helping the GNR/PJ & he'd been handing out his number. I believe it was a genuine call from someone concerned that the crying child they could hear was Madeleine.
9:58 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1037756820733997056
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @zampos @Bale2N
The PJ had set up shop in Block 4 [in a later tweet corrects it to Block 6] within a couple of days. What stopped Mrs Fenn from tootling over & reporting it directly? Many people gave the PJ/GNR info, including Dr Totman - what happened to it? Maybe the call related to the crying heard in the staff quarters?
10:38 am - 6 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1037828437136826368
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @Tealtraum @xxMichelleSxx and 3 others
Leading on I'm not sure words weren't put into PF's mouth when she made statement in Aug in an effort to pin the tale(sic) on Kate. PJ knew by that time Tues only night no Tapas 9 in apts & Kate's phone was in use right b4 10.30pm. PJ should've been more interested in burglary
3:22 pm - 6 Sep 2018
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So now, it was after May 3?
Robert Murat who is DAILY with the PJ officers because he’s translating for them and calls a GNR officer? Seriously, Frog?