As we have informed our readers in a comment in our post “The help and the tennis”, we would not be publishing any more posts as we wanted this one to remain the entrance door to our blog for now.
Links to the previous “comments continue” posts:
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue II”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue III”;
- “The help and the tennis – comments continue IV”.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Cerb32/status/1009155799527186443
ReplyDeleteCerb32@Cerb32
Replying to @artist_mystic @BruceLeeFootage and 6 others
You keep talking about Eddie's exemplary record but Grime was criticised in an official report for poor record keeping so we don't know how many times the dogs got it right or wrong. So it's misleading to claim an exemplary record but that won't stop you. #mccann
8:27 PM · Jun 19, 2018
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https://mobile.twitter.com/artist_mystic/status/1009160992100626432
Mystic Artist@artist_mystic
Replying to @Cerb32 @BruceLeeFootage and 6 others
Please do link me to this “official” report & then I can fully research who said what, & in what context. I’m sure the FBI wouldn’t have hired him if he was so unreliable. There’s records available in other ways (link: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sniffer-dog-used-in-search-for-madeleine-1050817) dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-… #mccann
8:48 PM · Jun 19, 2018
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Cerb32/status/1009167317102743558
Cerb32@Cerb32
Replying to @artist_mystic @BruceLeeFootage and 6 others
I don't think Eddie was unreliable all the time but a bit scatty at times like all dogs. The examination of CC and #mccann clothes was a farce. The NPIA report said poor record keeping, difficult to judge the reliability of the dogs.
9:13 PM · Jun 19, 2018
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So readers are made aware of how any criticism involving EVRD dogs, is distort and used to diss the dogs.
This time it’s the other “scientist”, Cerb32 who invents that the NPIA report speaks of Eddie (just as Gerard Tubb has done with his article) when the report doesn’t mention the dog.
Note how Cerb32 links poor record keeping mentioned in the NPIA report and Grime.
The report made no mention of Grime.
In our reply to Lesly Frances Finn at 17 Jun 2018, 19:51:00, we asked:
ReplyDelete“By the way, do you know why Justice [Justice for Madeleine FB group] has lost their gusto in promoting NT, if he’s so brilliant and who has inputs that are, quoting Sade Anslow (our caps): “measured and intelligent, and based on FACTS”?”
‘Cat’ took upon him/herself to respond to this in NT’s blog:
“Anonymous 17 June 2018 at 23:12,
Has Textusa ever thought that perhaps the Justice Facebook group hasn't promoted the last few NT posts because they were about the JH forum and not about Madeleine. She seems obsessed with you NT and people who post over here.
Cat”
The brazen promoting of NT in the Justice for Madeleine group started with Sade Anslow on May 21 21:00, promoting his post “Massive bollocks”, opening up with:
“Introducing this blogger, Not Textusa to the groups.
If you’ve heard the name before, it’s likely because Textusa insists he is despicable pro, Walker on Twitter. He isn’t.
In fact he’s very knowledgeable, long time researcher of the case, on a quest to dispel the often ridiculous “theories” that are forced upon us by others.
He has a great format of breaking down whatever he’s critiquing and an absolutely fantastic sense of humour.
Check the blog roll for his analysis of contributors other than Textusa. Happy reading.”
The first comment to this post came, unsurprisingly, from Ben Thompson: “This blog, and the author have both been lied about for a very long time by Textusa. The author isn't on the side of the McCanns, they don't believe an abduction took place, but they also don't like liars - Textusa takes issue with that. I would suggest that's Textusa's problem. We're here to promote facts and expose liars. Why should we stop at Kate, Gerry, Clarence and their cohorts? It's about truth, not sides.”
And to prove that the group doesn’t only promote NT’s thematic on Kate’s book, Sade Anslow promoted NT’s “Syrup” post on Jun 06 21:00 saying it was “a really informative breakdown of the decomposition process here 😊”.
Then Ben Thompson published NT’s posts “Signs of life” and “Testing, testing” on Jun 5 19:51 saying “Two excellent, must read pieces hereby “Not Textusa”, with some great discussion on the comments section as well”
Ben Thompson promoted there NT’s “The day after” post on Jun 9 18:39, saying: “Not Textusa is back with another blog, in the usual cutting style.”
But here, it seems the gusto in promoting NT that we spoke of suddenly waned.
The 2 next posts “Why are we waiting” and “The next day” that NT published on Kate’s book only got mentioned in a comment to the post above with Ben only saying “Two more parts for you to enjoy, Sally:”
Quite a demotion.
The on Jun 16 at 09:08 NT’s “Stages of Grief” post gets promoted but by Michael Dale, almost 3 days after it was originally posted, where the following is said: “I know Ben Thompson puts these up but this really made me see how bad KM is, like a petulant stroppy I want it kid”.
From then on, Cat, a habitual commenter in NT’s blog, overlooked the fact that NT published on Jun 15 a post called “Whiterose” which was about forensics. This post did not get any attention on Justice.
Cat, commented on Jun 17. NT has finally again posted about Kate’s book. 6 days after his last post was promoted on Justice.
It’s now over 21 hours that NT has published his latest post on Kate’s book “Anyway, as I was saying…”.
And on Justice, nothing. No one is promoting it on Justice. Are you letting NT down?
One of Justice admin’s has already promoted it on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/1009366463789101056
“P_R #FBPE 🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️🌈#NHSLove @PeritaRisus
http://nottextusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/anyway-as-i-was-saying.html … Not Textusa's astute analysis of Kate #McCann's book "madeleine" continues. Kate had attended for interview at the PJ headquarters. She is not yet an arguida at this stage.
2:24 am - 20 Jun 2018”
Come on Justice, why are you forsaking NT?
After all, where’s the harm in promoting someone who only says, among other things, that “an alert by a decomp dog only tells you that the products of human decomp are in the air, not how they got there or to whom they belong”?
DeleteEvidently, the following people (one already mentioned) have no problem in doing so:
https://twitter.com/K9Truth/status/1009213614153183233
https://twitter.com/zodiaczephyr/status/1009339737046507520
https://twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/1009369415438274560
Can someone remind me what NT believes happened to Madeleine? He and his cronies seem hell bent on trying to convince readers that Madeleine's dead body was never in apartment 5a. Does NT believe Madeleine is still alive? Does he believe Kate and Gerry's abduction story? Whose side is he on???
ReplyDelete“an alert by a decomp dog only tells you that the products of human decomp are in the air, not how they got there or to whom they belong”
ReplyDeleteThat statement is 100% correct, so I can't really see where you are going with this?
Anonymous 20 Jun 2018, 21:53:00,
DeleteHow uncanny similar is your comment to this one from Not Textusa:
“Not Textusa19 June 2018 at 04:23
Oh ffs - this is a measure of how thick she is. It seems I :
“would diss the EVRD dog by unequivocally declaring it useless (“a decomp dog only tells you that the products of human decomp are in the air, not how they got there or to whom they belong”)
My statement is 100% accurate. It does not declare the dog ‘useless’
How can that possibly be misunderstood? It is a dog. It is not Skippy, the bush kangaroo, who appeared to be able to alert adults to the fact that jimmy was down a well. Dogs can only say “I smell my target scent “”
The NPIA report shows clearly that NT is not 100% correct.
Quoting ourselves: “It’s relevant that dogs in Shannon case alerted to specific items [furniture]. They didn’t just detect floating molecules in the air.”
Quoting ourselves again, “As NT correctly states: “It is a dog. It is not Skippy, the bush kangaroo, who appeared to be able to alert adults to the fact that jimmy was down a well. Dogs can only say “I smell my target scent”. What NT intentionally does not state and which not only is also correct but of utmost significance is that the dog doesn’t only say that but says this: “I smell my target scent and I smell it coming from HERE”.”
So saying “dog only tells you that the products of human decomp are in the air, not how they got there” is 100% wrong.
The location where the dog alerts means that the emitting source is nearby. On surface nearby, coming from what Martin Grime calls the “physical article where the scent is emitting from”.
Where we are going with this? In proving that the locations alerted to by Eddie in apartment 5A PROVE that they are locations of where a dead body has been.
Saying “a decomp dog only tells you that the products of human decomp are in the air, not (…) to whom they belong” is 100% correct. We have agreed with that.
However, we refer you back to the NPIA report. It seems to be clear that the police in the Shannon Matthews investigation was able to find an explanation to all the EVRD alerts. Finding them diverted manpower but all was explained.
We seem to be before an odd situation in the Maddie case.
There is the proof that the sources of cadaver scent were signalled by the dogs. The Portuguese justice system has given this as a PROVEN FACT.
There is, according to the same just system, doubts on whether it was Maddie as forensics failed to corroborate that it was.
The odd situation is this, it seems that authorities having doubts about to whom belonged the cadaver scent sources found in apartment 5A decided that it was fine with not clarifying who that body belonged to (by the way, the PJ did try to find an alternative hypothesis to being Maddie to justify that cadaver scent and found none).
In judicial terms, however cynic this may sound, the legal situation at this moment regarding the cadaver scent sources found in apartment 5A is one of hey, it’s not Maddie and no one cares who it is. Let’s move on, people, nothing for you to see here.
Yes, there was an archival dispatch, which we consider to be legitimate and absolutely legal. But that was ONE decision. By ONE magistrate.
If we were to believe that any single decision by the Justice system is 100% correct and absolutely not to be contested, then at this point in time Mr Amaral would be paying 500,000 euros to the McCanns as per ONE legal decision. Which we then considered legitimate and absolutely legal but not correct. Time proved that the same Justice system, via 2 higher courts and 3 decisions, agreed with us that it was not correct.
That makes us wonder if the case had landed in the hands of another magistrate, the conclusion wouldn’t be different.
A comment which we withheld:
Delete“Anonymous 20 Jun 2018, 22:40:00
Can someone explain to me why my comment wasn't allowed? Or are you only taking comments which agree with you, is that how it works?”
You wish we wouldn’t publish some of your comments where you keep putting your foot in your mouth.
No go back to your blog to continue your, quoting PeritaRisus “astute analysis of Kate #McCann's book "madeleine"”.
Maybe we all imagined all the previous analyses of Kate’s book!
In the valley of the blind the one eyed man is king. However i do not think it's the blind being led by the one eyed fake scientist. It's an obvious attempt at muddying waters with all involved knowing exactly what the end game plan is. At least this exercise in BS has brought to the fore who are the genuine seekers of truth and who are simply present to peddle lies. Well done sisters, your efforts are appreciated by those who see through the game being played.
ReplyDeleteAn interesting take on Eddie and Keela:
ReplyDeletehttps://m.facebook.com/McCannScandal/photos/a.193885737462516.1073741828.193442494173507/281770945340661/?type=3
The McCann Scandal
Via Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka
So police used radar equipment as well as highly trained specialist dogs in their searches of pinpointed areas in Praia de Luz. These types of "unreliable" (Gerry McCann's words not mine) dogs were used once before remember.
Keela, a 16 month old springer spaniel, was at the top of her field when she went to PDL in 2007, trained by Martin Grime (who now works for the FBI) she could sniff out the most microscopic specks of blood, even if the item had been cleaned or washed. To avoid any confusion Keela was trained to alert to nothing but human blood. So any talk of her alerting to anything else is pure fiction. At the time of the searches Keela earned £530 per day plus expenses, more than the chief constable at that time.
Eddie who was 7 at the time, had worked on over 200 murder cases worldwide and boasts an outstanding record of success. The FBI rated Eddie and Martin Grime as "two of the best in the law enforcement speciality of canine forensics, able to find evidence everyone else missed." Eddie was trained to alert to smell of human cadaverine (the smell given off from a human corpse) pro McCann's love to put about unfounded rumours that these dogs alert to other smells, nonsense, it was the McCanns who blamed the alerts on items such as dirty nappies, seabass etc.
To give a better idea a dogs nose is 10,000 times more sensitive to smell than our own. They can pick out every ingredient of a smell and separate it, much in the same way you or I could sort out different shaped wooden blocks, if we were handed a box of blocks containing sphere's, cubes, and pyramids, and told to put all the cubes to one side we could do it. A cadaver dogs nose works in the same way, it separates all the elements of one scent, examine each one in it's own right, and determine if human cadaver is present.
So what did the dogs find? Having gone through several other apartments at the Ocean club, and alerting to nothing, both dogs alerted to a number of places in and around the McCann's apartment, and their hire car.
Keela alerted to human blood in:
The living room, behind the sofa, close to the external window of the apartment.
In the McCanns’ hired Renault Scenic, hired 25 days AFTER Madeleine's disappearance.
On the car key.
In the interior of the car boot.
Eddie alerted to the scent of human cadaverine:
The wardrobe in the McCann's bedroom.
In the living room, behind the sofa, close to the external window of the apartment. (the same place as Keela).
The veranda of 5a.
In the garden of the apartment.
The flower beds in the back of 5a.
The steps leading down from the patio.
Also, a ‘lighter’ scent of death was found in the flower beds in the back yard, near the foot of the steps leading down from the patio.
On two items of Kate's clothing.
On a T shirt belonging to Madeleine.
On cuddlecat (Madeleine's soft toy)
Not only that, but out of several cars in a car park Eddie only alerted to one, the McCanns' hire car.
Couple that with the fact that Eddie and Keela's findings led the forensic team to the discovery of DNA that could have belonged to Madeleine. In fact the original forensic conclusions were that it was DEFINITELY Madeleine's, that was later changed to say "It would be very simple to say "yes" simply because of the number of components within the result that are also in her reference sample." The reason for that change was that John Lowe who compiled the report said he couldn't be certain how the sample came to be in the car. I fail to see what that has to do with the DNA being Madeleine's or not. It either is or it isn't.
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ReplyDeleteYesterday the question was raised as to whether the scent of cadaver could be cross contaminated ie. If I touched a human corpse and then came and touched you, would you then carry the scent. The answer is no, I discussed this today with Bohden, those of you who know Bohden will know that his expertise in this area is second to none. He explained it to me like this "Cross contamination of actual cadaver residue from say a blanket or something a body was wrapped in 20 or so days prior is, I think unlikely due to the nature of the substance. Think of it as really sticky molecular chewing gum, sticks to anything but it's a residue, dries out and no longer attaches itself to other things that it comes into contact with... So no longer cross contaminates, but a dog would still detect it on the original contaminated item."
So that rules out any cross contamination, Kate's mother, Susan Healy tried to excuse the scent of cadaver on Kate's clothing by blaming it on Kate coming into contact with corpses in her job as a part time GP. A lie not even Kate McCann rolled with, and even if she had, how would she explain the scent being on Madeleine's t shirt, she couldn't. The only way she could excuse that is if Madeleine had accompanied her to visit these imaginary corpses. So Kate this is the long and short of it:
Your daughter went missing
You lied about an abductor entering
You didn't search
You, your clothes, your daughters clothes, your apartment, and your car reek of cadaver.
No evidence to support your theory has ever been turned up in 7 years.
Scotland Yard are going digging with the same type of dogs your husband branded "unreliable"
Still think you're untouchable Kate? How dare you accuse Goncalo Amaral of libel. The chances are Scotland Yard are acting on sound information, if they find the slightest bit of evidence it's game over for you, and every single person that knowingly helped you cover up your daughters death. Goncalo Amaral will have his redemption, and Madeleine will have the peace and justice you have tried to deprive her of. The day is approaching, you will be cornered and somebody is going to call checkmate.
16 August 2014 · Public · in Timeline Photos
“Think of it as really sticky molecular chewing gum, sticks to anything but it's a residue”
DeleteBoth Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka are big NT promoters in the Justice for Madeleine FB froup.
From NT's mouth:
Delete"Let me explain this as simply as I can
You can put a body in a room.
Then you can take it away again
A cadaver dog can signal to the odour of decomposition because the volatile molecules produced by the body can adhere to materials and surfaces in the room, as well as remaining in the atmosphere
There are no cells, no tissues, no liquids, no DNA remaining. Just volatile scent molecules.
Anyone who cannot understand this, form a line behind Textusa - you are going back to school."
What ”cellular material” to quote FSS report, was found, which yielded DNA in sample 3a? NT says it wasn’t blood. FSS couldn’t determine this from LCN tests, but neither could they say it wasn’t blood. What is the probability of the material being blood rather than any other cellular material, if the blood detecting dog alerted there?
DeleteI think Ben T and NT need to have a word and come to some agreement over the cadaver dog alerts in 5a.
If cadaver whatever you choose to call it (cwyctci) adheres to a surface, then that’s the surface the cadaver dog alerts to. The cwyctci may also release some molecules which pool in the room elsewhere, which the dog may also alert to, but the cwyctci is originating from a surface somewhere in that room.
DeleteIt hasn’t drifted in from outside, from the soil, sea bass, or from a passing hearse.
They must be getting bored over the other side.
ReplyDeleteIt's turning into a film review site now.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JusticeForMadeleine/permalink/1756757237753676/
DeleteAnd in Justice it turned into a holiday forum!
Bit dramatic aren't you, for a robot who does nothing but whinge about what others do on the internet.
DeleteNot NT or Anonymous 23 Jun 2018, 15:20:00 (we don’t know to who Sade Anslow is replying to) apologies to butt in.
DeleteSade Anslow,
Anonymous 15 Jun 2018, 12:16:00 mentioned this in the comment s/he made:
“Anyway, she [Sade Anslow] should be playing with the kids on the beach and not cussing and swearing online.”
To which you replied:
Sade Anslow15 Jun 2018, 17:30:00
“Obviously Anonymous #1, not sure why you think I should be playing with kids on a beach…”
We, probably like Anonymous15 Jun 2018, 12:16:00 had seen your tweet making public your holiday:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1007249527097774080
“SadeElisha@SadeElisha86
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 and @RobManCFan
It's the only thing they could come up with, knowing how easily proven it'd be, that I'm a real person. I could prove who I am right now, if I gave a damn that is. Too busy frying myself in the sun 😊#mccann
2:12 PM · Jun 14, 2018”
According to the screengrabs we were given with the comments on the FB post to which Anonymous 23 Jun 2018, 15:20:00, refers to, you have just arrived from holiday.
Note, we are not using any private information. Only the one you chose to put out there on the internet.
Now that you've dropped your being goody two shoes act, we ask you not to be rude to our readers. Thank you.
Working with NT is catching. Politeness goes out of the window and rudeness becomes the norm.
We know you have said on NT’s blog that:
“Sade Anslow13 June 2018 at 16:07
I've just seen it too Nick. What I love best is how she's deleted my comment, blocked me from commenting on the page then copy pasted my comment and expects me to reply. She really is a genius isn't she?”
Yet you have repeatedly come here to comment. But not on facts.
So next time you do, could you please answer the following questions?
#1. Do you agree with Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka that the body leaves a physical residue source or do you rather agree with NT that it leaves only volatile molecules?
#2. Do you agree with NT that no blood was found in apartment 5A?
#3. Do you agree with NT that Eddie alerted to a medieval graveyard in the backyard? If you have doubts about this, it seems that according to NT Eddie could have alerted to the odour from medieval cadavers, somehow found in soil deposits connected with the patio of 5A. To us it seems bizarre, to him it’s scientifically proven so we recommend that it’s best to ask him to explain it to you first before you answer.
#4. Do you agree with NT that it’s questionable the importance of the Smith sighting?
Lastly, it was not our question but we would also like to know:
#5. Could you please explain how making the Smith sighting later than 22:00, the time of the alarm, as NT does “actually puts Gerry McCann back 'in the frame' to coin a phrase” using your words?
Again, that tweet did not "make public" my holiday did it? What it said is in black and white, above. The comments on the Facebook post from today, do indeed confirm I've today come home from a holiday. It still gives no sense to the expectation that I should have been playing with kids on a beach, does it?
DeleteLook very carefully at the words, and think carefully about how the rest has been, undeniably INVENTED.
It's a very important point I've tried to make.
As for the "goody two shoes" comment, you've lost me. Never have I pretended to be so; I can be polite and I can be rude, it all depends on the attitude of who I'm conversing with. Your perception of rudeness is perhaps different to mine, however, I think I've said this before: I'll write what I like. Whether you choose to publish it or not, is of course down to you.
With regards to my comment about you blocking me from commenting, you did, from your Facebook page. It's quite obvious it's that I was referring to - to those who've taken the liberty of reading the comment in its full context of course.
As for the questions, nope. Not on your life. Why? Because why should I? Simples.
We must say we loved the idea of gaseous floating molecules being adsorbed into chairs (a pathetic attempt to adapt his ‘only-gaseous’ theory to the reality of Shannon Matthew’s investigation which he unwittingly exposed), but let’s not divert, let’s keep a straight face. It’s hard but possible.
ReplyDeleteOur caps:
“So the molecules, regardless of whether they are adsorbed onto the chair, a curtain, a tile or the frigging 'pants of ganga' HAVE TO BE RELEASED into the air for the dog to smell them.”
Have to? With what, are they clinging to the materials with - a timer?
Was each molecule equipped with an encrypted mobile phone and waited for a message to jump into action?
That’s it!
What happened was that the molecules (cadaver scent and blood scent) in the Maddie case were Black Ops molecules! Please don’t kick the theory just yet. Allow us to explain and the reader, with some imagination, will see that it just makes sense!
Sometime in April, maybe as early as March 2007 the establishment decided to target the McCanns and launched operation “Woof-woof” (Op WW).
The Commanding officer of the 1st Black Ops Molecule Brigade (BOMB) was called to a secret office in one of the many dark secret bunkers beneath Whitehall.
There he was given a brief: how 1st BOMB would participate in framing the McCanns who were going to be lured by the establishment to Praia da Luz in the week between April 28 and May 5.
On a night that week, yet to be decided, but most likely Wednesday or Thursday, a human would be infiltrate the apartment and snatch their daughter Madeleine from there.
That night 1st BOMB would act. Some of their elements would gather together in compromising locations in the living-room and bedroom while others would cling onto McCann items.
All was planned in detail, so there were no mistakes the Black Ops Molecules (BOM) were briefed with photos of locations and items.
A reserve was constituted to be deployed later in a vehicle which the establishment would ‘convince’ the McCanns to hire. As then it was impossible to know what vehicle the Portuguese rental company would give to the McCanns, they would later receive orders into what vehicle they were to infiltrate, and in it where they were to cling.
The 1st BOMB Commander having fully understood his mission left the meeting with the exact instructions he had to debrief his Battalions’ Commanders.
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ReplyDeleteThere were 2 tricky areas. The ventilated living-room and the outside flowerbed. Only the best of the best could handle such rigorous adverse environment for floating molecules.
Within the Black Ops molecules, 2 companies of Special Ops Molecules were assigned to those 2 objectives. Real heroes. Especially the personnel allocated to the flowerbed. Not only had they to face the natural air currents 24/7 for months but also the watering. The fact that later Eddie was able to alert to them is amazing by itself. What mission-conscious molecules! Well-done chaps!
We have also to mention the cuddle-cat platoon. They had to face the unexpected, when they saw themselves thrown into a washing machine. They tumbled and tumbled but like the true heroes they are, they clung onto that toy no matter how much water and soap was thrown at them.
How things happened it’s quite easy for the reader to understand. The human snatcher, went into the apartment and with Maddie in his arms he turned and said to the molecules “Ok, you miniscule little fellas it’s time to act, cheerio and all that, good luck chaps!” and left going out through the door. No, not the window, we’re trying to be realistic here!
Once H-hour was determined, the order to spring into action given, the lads did what they had to do. Those who had to cling to Kate’s pants clung to them, the ones whose objective was Sean’s t-shirt did the same and so on.
The last clingers were the ones who had the Scenic as their objective for reasons already explained. They remained sheltered somewhere waiting for the car to be rented. But as soon as they knew specifically which car they were to get into, they got in. The team with the key FOB mission did a jolly good job, it must be said.
When in position, they waited until that day they saw the dogs come in. And oh boy, did they have to wait! But patriotic as they are, they did. Only when the dogs came into the facilities in which they were deployed, did they RELEASE themselves from wherever they were clinging and flew right into Eddie’s and Keela’s noses.
And there it is. All explained. Dare we say, scientifically?
OP WW was executed to perfection. If it wasn’t a Black Ops unit, the 1st BOMB deserved a public honouring parade. But Blacks Ops are Black Ops and these molecules knew that they did not sign up to get public recognition and praise but out of a profound sense of duty.
And all would have gone well, people would be damning the McCanns if it weren’t for the brilliant minds of NT and his supporters who spotted the entire conspiracy.
If it weren’t for them, we would all have been fooled into believing that Eddie and Keela had alerted to locations where Maddie’s body had been. It would have been the perfect framing.
Truth owes NT a lot!
As we said, we will leave it up to the readers to decide how realistic the above is.
One question one must ask though. Why in the heck in the Maddie case there were no molecules clinging to furniture like it only happened in the Shannon Matthews investigation?
Maybe NT can do the favour and clarify that.
NT,
DeleteYou say, “How can a dog alert tell you what happened? It can't”.
We have agreed that the dog can’t. And before you ask, the dog also can’t fly a plane, solve a mathematical equation nor cook a vol-au-vent.
You say, “How can a dog alert tell you who's dead? It can't.”
There has never been disagreement that a cadaver releases VOCs - it’s about the SOURCE of those VOCs remaining in situ after the removal of the cadaver.
The basic premise to agree on is that in 5A, the cadaver dog alerted because the physical source of the VOCs remained in some material where the body had made contact.
What Martin Grime calls a “physical article where the scent is emitting from” and your friends Ben Thompson and Bohden Chalawaka say it’s a “really sticky molecular chewing gum, sticks to anything but it's a residue”.
The argument has NEVER been about a dog alert confirming who the body belonged to but the FACT that nobody had died in that apartment leads to the probability it could only have been Maddie.
Unless one follows the Black Ops theory above, which has a possibility it wasn’t from Maddie.
You could settle it by confirming and say: “I believe that the probability demonstrated by the cadaver dog alert is that M’s body made contact with a surface in that apartment and that cleaning of the apartment had not eradicated the source of the odour on that surface, which continued to emit VOCs.”
What about an answer to the question about the “cellular material” on swab 3A put to you by Anonymous 21 Jun 2018, 16:41:00?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JusticeForMadeleine/permalink/1735152743247459/
ReplyDeleteOn Justice FB, the first comment on the post promoting “A really informative breakdown of the decomposition process here” by NT was from Nick/Anon:
“Its not an oily sheen on the body???? Shock horror lol”
As a reply to this comment, from Ben “but it's a residue” Thompson:
[a picture advertising a product called Gnarly Sheen: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wMwv-DzMK3Y/hqdefault.jpg]
Nick/Anon,
DeleteWe know you must be angry because we're not publishing your comments in support of NT (anyone interested can go there and read there your support).
But if would submit a comment explaining, as NT won't (or, he has with his medieval graveyard theory)to what Eddie alerted to in the backyard we will publish it.
Please don't say that it's cadaver scent. We agree on that. What we want to know is from where those molecules that were picked up Eddie came from, and how long you think these stayed and floated in the open air backyard.
Thank you
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010655311055740930
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86
Yet 5 years later Madeleine is still missing, the parents have still not been arrested & Antonio is still pontificating ...... Still, at least you have your new spiritual home on NT. (laughing emoticon) (laughing emoticon) (laughing emoticon)
3:46 PM - 23 Jun 2018
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https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1010660538911772672
SadeElisha @SadeElisha86
Replying to @FragrantFrog
Is it jealousy or envy that poisons its host from within, I forget? You should get it checked out. A problem left to fester is a problem never solved. #mccann
4:07 PM - 23 Jun 2018
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https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010662623363387392
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86
LOL. Don't take Antonio seriously or it is you who will be destroyed from within before you are even aware of any infection.
4:15 PM - 23 Jun 2018
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https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1010667291095322626
SadeElisha @SadeElisha86
Replying to @FragrantFrog
That's it, it's envy. Jealousy is a healthy, normal emotion, one we're not afraid to admit to; "I wish I looked like that" etc Envy is the malicious, the spiteful. The lack of confidence in oneself which creates a spitting anger at those they wish they could emulate. #McCann
4:33 PM - 23 Jun 2018
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https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010668896775483393
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86
Get over yourself, you silly girl. Who wants to emulate a drug-addled saddo whose only purpose is to drag you into his world of loathing..well, everyone?
4:40 PM - 23 Jun 2018
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https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1010683137213521921
SadeElisha @SadeElisha86
Replying to @FragrantFrog
Now Now, what did we say about spitting? Count to ten, there's a dear (smiling emoticon)
5:36 PM - 23 Jun 2018
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Using FragrantFrog to validate Sade Anslow and NT as bone-fide antis.
A tactic used so many times now that it has become boring.
From NT’s blog, in a post called “Ahem...”. That post in full:
ReplyDelete“Ahem…
The first alert was given with the dogs head in the air without a positive area being identified. This is the alert given by him when there is no tangible evidence to be located only the remaining scent.
Martin Grime, August 2007”
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Our caps: “This is the alert given by him WHEN there is no tangible evidence to be located only the remaining scent.”
So on all other alarms given there is a “TANGIBLE EVIDENCE TO BE LOCATED”.
NT, why do insist on helping us?
From "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"I've been wondering why NT is so keen to push Neglect + Death when most Pros believe Neglect = Abduction. He seems very keen to paint the Mccanns in as bad a light as possible but refuses to believe in any high level cover up. Could this be to enable the 'burglary gone wrong' scenario?"
Interesting comments:
ReplyDeleteFirst this one submitted to us and that we didn’t publish (doing it now) which we are certain is from Anon/NicK:
“Anonymous 22 Jun 2018, 13:45:00
dogs wouldnt alert to the surface, they'd alert to the scent in the location the scent was strongest.
Honestly - all this distraction from the original issue... that TextUSA's theory on questioning the Mccanns would cause Grange to be shut down. I don't think I've ever seen anyone so determined to avoid admitting a mistake!”
And this one from Sade Anslow in NT’s blog:
“Sade Anslow 24 June 2018 at 02:11
Haha! I echo that suggestion NT.
I suppose the one good thing to come out of all this is she's so busy stalking and obsessing over you and I, that she's completely forgotten the next 34 instalments of her Grange 'analysis'...sssh! Don't remind her 🙂”
2 comments trying to make us go back to our analysis of the consequences in the case Operation Grange questions the McCanns or anyone else of relevance in the case.
Clearly trying to divert us from the ongoing debate about what evidence can be withdrawn from the dog alerts – EVRD and blood. It seems some people would prefer us to move onto something less controversial.
About the analysis we will be return to it. We intended to do so sooner, but all was thrown off course by the sudden change of tack by Ben and Sade.
We won’t do so until we are certain that we should. We move at our own pace and path and not at the direction of others.
And to Nick/Anon we repeat the request, that remains unanswered, we made in our comment at 23 Jun 2018, 17:24:00:
“Nick/Anon,
We know you must be angry because we're not publishing your comments in support of NT (anyone interested can go there and read there your support).
But if would submit a comment explaining, as NT won't (or, he has with his medieval graveyard theory)to what Eddie alerted to in the backyard we will publish it.
Please don't say that it's cadaver scent. We agree on that. What we want to know is from where those molecules that were picked up Eddie came from, and how long you think these stayed and floated in the open air backyard.”
And to Sade Anslow, we remind you (without any “sssh!”) of the questions that we have put you at 23 Jun 2018, 22:06:00 and that you haven’t answered yet:
“So next time you do, could you please answer the following questions?
#1. Do you agree with Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka that the body leaves a physical residue source or do you rather agree with NT that it leaves only volatile molecules?
#2. Do you agree with NT that no blood was found in apartment 5A?
#3. Do you agree with NT that Eddie alerted to a medieval graveyard in the backyard? If you have doubts about this, it seems that according to NT Eddie could have alerted to the odour from medieval cadavers, somehow found in soil deposits connected with the patio of 5A. To us it seems bizarre, to him it’s scientifically proven so we recommend that it’s best to ask him to explain it to you first before you answer.
#4. Do you agree with NT that it’s questionable the importance of the Smith sighting?
Lastly, it was not our question but we would also like to know:
#5. Could you please explain how making the Smith sighting later than 22:00, the time of the alarm, as NT does “actually puts Gerry McCann back 'in the frame' to coin a phrase” using your words?”
NT’s “medieval graveyard” theory finally explained. By someone who doesn’t like NT. Supposedly, that is:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010658210141876227
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @JaneParshally @zampos
I'm suggesting they should have done more to investigate the cause of a cadaver dogs alerts. Where did people who lived on the land, prior to OC being built, bury their pig carcasses?
3:57 pm - 23 Jun 2018
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https://mobile.twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1010820249955065856
Jules... @comeonengland18
Sorry Frog but this has to be the most ridiculous tweet of the week on #McCann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgcnpwPX0AI7bx3?format=jpg
10:41 AM · Jun 24, 2018
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https://mobile.twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010833401136500736
Green Leaper@FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18
Are you suggesting that Eddie couldn't have alerted to historical pig bones buried under the foundations of 5? Really? Something he was trained to detect? #mccann
11:33 AM · Jun 24, 2018
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It must be said that the Green Leaper does have a vivid imagination. This one, not even NT remembered to come up with this one:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1007708448111329280
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
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Replying to @FragrantFrog
Alerts in an enclosed space from which a tiny child had vanished without trace, no other deaths connected to 5a or its contents ... & you also queried why that wasn't grounds for suspicion over concealment? Add 2 + 2 ... #Mccann
12:36 pm - 15 Jun 2018
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https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1007725493091799040
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @JBLittlemore
IYO was enough investigation undertaken to rule out cross-contamination inside the apartment? Was a body buried in the wall or the concrete floor during construction? NB Never take a cadaver dog inside the Church of San Francisco, Evora. #mccann
1:44 pm - 15 Jun 2018
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Since Nick/Anon and Sade Anslow are reluctant in answering the question on whether they agree with NT’s “medieval graveyard” theory and if they don’t, explain what they think was the source of the cadaver scent that caused the dog alert in the backyard, are there any takers in helping FragrantFrog better explain that theory?
Speaking of movies, reading the blog is like watching the Three Musketeers.
ReplyDeleteTextusa is D’Artagnan, NT Cardinal Richelieu.
Textusa is outnumbered but she’s backed by only a few, but what a few!
The Cardinal’s men are always in greater numbers but in every sword fight they end up looking foolish.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Andreamariapre2/status/1010832830920888320
ReplyDeleteAndrea maria preston @Andreamariapre2
Replying to @CaroleShooter, @Caesar2207, and @comeonengland18
Gurney reckons the carpenter who built the wardrobe may have lost part of his finger so it is buried underneath and that is what the dog is alerting to. She claims Amaral should have dismantled the wardrobe #McCann
11:31 am · 24 Jun 2018
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Here’s a good one for NT to use, to justify the alert in the bedroom.
Unfortunately for NT and his promoters, Keela didn’t alert to anything at that location…
https://mobile.twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1011023674160369665
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper@FragrantFrog
Replying to @JBLittlemore, @Caesar2207, and 2 others
It would have shown he was representing the UK police force in his role of dog handler. If a man out of uniform + dog attempted to nick you for drug possession at an airport, what would you say? #mccann
12:10 am · 25 Jun 2018
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https://mobile.twitter.com/strackers74/status/1011030066325852163
Elaine Strachan@strackers74
Replying to @FragrantFrog, @JBLittlemore, and 3 others
I'd say I'd been around 6 drug addicts that day and the scent must have wafted on to me. #McCann
12:35 am · 25 Jun 2018
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Brilliant reply by strackers74!
After all, according to NT, the SCIENTIST who claims to be a dog-supporter and is promoted by others for being so, airborne molecules and ONLY airborne molecules waft into people to be later released and be picked up by trained dogs’ noses, isn’t that so?
In fact, anyone who is ever to attend a rock concert, better incinerate their clothes afterwards or choose never to set foot in an airport again or any other location where these dogs may be deployed.
Drug addicts, sorry, for your safety, you’d best never enter any airport.
Whoever was buried under 5A, or whatever medieval cadaver VO molecules stayed obediently around 5A and didn’t go next door. Do they have a certain range that NT the scientist can calculate?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 25 Jun 2018, 15:06:00,
DeleteBlack Ops AND Special Forces! Haven't you seen the Bourne series movies??
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls057255115/
They are police sniffer dogs at nightclubs on occasion.
ReplyDeleteIf they alerted to those in proximity to drugs as well as in actual possession, all nightclub customers would alert and the police would need lots of vans for arrested suspects!
Plus vans for themselves because they police would be contaminated when arresting all these people!
Anonymous 25 Jun 2018, 16:18:00,
DeleteTrue. That's where Nick/Anon fails to see how ridiculous he's being when using terminally ill cancer patients to support NT's theory.
If what NT says is true, then Nick/Anon would be a walking target to an EVRD dog. So would all people who have had the tragedy of being next to other terminally ill cancer patients. And all the hospital staff down to those responsible for washing the sheets.
And if secondary contamination is responsible for the alerts on the Scenic, then all those who have been near to Nick/Anon, to all others who also have gone through a similar tragedy and to the hospital staff would be equally contaminated...
Basically making the usefulness of the dog to be that even though every alert would indeed be saying "there's cadaver scent in the air", that being as useful as if it only meant "there's air scent in the air".
Thus the importance of the alert meaning "there's cadaver scent in the air and it's coming from HERE."
That 'HERE' representing without a doubt the location of where a dead body had been (EVRD dog) or human blood is (blood dog).
When the supporters refer to buried pig carcasses, was it some ritualistic practice in old PDL to sacrifice pigs, then bury them? Most people who farm pigs usually sell them, as burying them can’t be very profitable?
ReplyDeleteBy the way, somebody who argued against the dogs’ alerts being significant on Joana M’s blog back in 2010 described him/herself as a scientist in the field of genetic disorders. The arguments used were very similar to NT’s.
ReplyDeleteNick/Anon,
We are acknowledging that we have received 2 comments which we will not publish, for now. The reason is very simple, unlike some we don’t mind assuming that we go on holidays. A team member will be taking a short vacation and is uncertain what internet will be available. And even if there is internet, there are other much more important priorities in one’s life than the blog.
To be clear, we’re only not publishing now because we don’t want there to be a big gap of time between the publication of your comments and our reply to them. Team member will return Friday, so hopefully that night or then Saturday we will publish both your comments and our reply to them.
We have noted that you did not answer the question we put to you, which is what YOU think is the source of the cadaver scent molecules that Eddie picked up in the backyard, so hopefully this interval will allow you to better think on the answer you want to give.
Also, please take this time to think and then tell us what it is you think is the fluid source of the splatters found in the living-room as per our post “DNA is… DNA”.
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2013/09/dna-is-dna.html
Of the above splatters, please add stain #3, which we only realised later where it was located as mentioned in our post “Does size matter?”
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2013/12/does-size-matter.html
Thank you.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010841327100219392
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
If a cadaver dog alerts at a particular spot should the police
a) ignore it because they can't see a body there
b) assume a body has rested at that place before being moved or
c)Excavate the location thoroughly to try to discover source of alert? #mccann
4:05 am - 24 Jun 2018
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It seems that, according to NT (and his squad) once faced with the supposed impossibility to prove that that the particular spots alerted to by the dogs in the apartment 5A, authorities have clearly opted for a) a) ignore it because they can't see a body there.
We have had a dead body in apartment 5A but from the looks of it no one really wants to find out who it belonged to.
Why?
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1011366921453883393
ReplyDeleteSadeElisha @SadeElisha86
Replying to @zampos @FragrantFrog
http://madmaninamac.blogspot.com/2018/06/unhinged.html?m=1 … #McCann I'm apparently the new pretendy anti on the block, MI5'ing it right up, and this joker gets to stroll around without the slightest anti camouflage? No fair.
2:53 pm - 25 Jun 2018
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Does not have time to answer the questions that we have put her but finds time to complain that others are not being accused of being pretendy anti like she is being.
As far as we know, she has a FB group of 38,000 members vouching she’s absolutely and totally anti. Is an active participant and appreciated by a self-claimed anti, NT (who she recognises and vouches for his “antinness”) that, according to his author has loads of readers.
From what we are able to tell, only we and our 6 readers (totalling 9 people) and a tweeter accuse her of being a pretendy-anti.
Doesn’t the math indicate that she should ignore the accusations of so few? If we were in her shoes with the support she claims she has, we would.
https://twitter.com/zampos/status/1011275744998240258
ReplyDeleteAnthony Bennett @zampos
Replying to @FragrantFrog
The two #Twitter polls on the #LastPhoto both showed most votes going to Sunday 29th April for when it was taken. A #CMOMM poll had the same result. The evidence the Last Photo was taken on the sunny Sunday is so strong that I feel sure in the end everyone will accept it #McCann
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Mr Bennett,
Please produce link/screengrab of the results of the poll YOU ran on YOUR forum in 2015 when responding to our post “Non-Post” in 2015.
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/11/non-post.html
It’s true that a lie said 1,000 times will eventually become truth. But that only happens if the liar doesn’t have someone with the resilience and the patience to prove that he’s a liar for as long as is needed.
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1011308038530232320
ReplyDeleteBale2LiverpoolNil @Bale2N
Replying to @comeonengland18 @ClaireFaraday and 7 others
Odour decomposes and is all gone in 28 days. Biological fact. Research it? Also it’s generated by the living with illness/infection. 5a was re-let to 4 other families prior to August 2007. XXX #mccann
11:00 am - 25 Jun 2018
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Note how Insane/Not Textusa/Walkercan1000/Bale2N is using his most recent Twitter character to propagate Nick/Anon’s theory that people “the living with illness/infection” contaminate others by having airborne molecules waft into them.
Ahem 1:
ReplyDelete“CADAVER SCENT
The odour target of cadaver is scientifically explained through 'volatile organic compounds' that in a certain configuration are received by the dog as a receptor. Recognition then gives a conditioned response 'ALERT'. Despite considerable research and analytical investigation the compounds cannot as yet be replicated in laboratory processes. Therefore the 'alert' by dogs without a tangible source cannot be forensically proven at this time. Cadaver scent cannot readily be removed by cleaning as the compounds adhere to surfaces. The scent can be 'masked' by bleach and other strong smelling odours but the dog's olfactory system is able to isolate the odours and identify specific compounds' and mixes. Cadaver scent contamination may be transferred in numerous scenarios. Any contact with a cadaver which is then passed to any other material may be recognised by the dog causing a 'trigger' indication.”
Martin Grime
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Who doesn’t know that bleach is commonly used to exterminate floating molecules?? According to NT, if you didn’t you are absolutely ignorant.
Ahem 2:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm
“The second dog that we've seen work today is the crime scene dog Keela. She will only indicate to me when she has found human blood, only human blood and it is only blood and there must be something there physically for her to be able to alert to me that's she has actually found something. At this point over here where the victim recovery dog has indicated, as you saw on the video, the crime scene dog had actually given me what we call a passive indication where she freezes in this spot here which would indicate to me that there is some human blood there. She will find blood that's historically very old and she will find anybody's blood, any human blood, which is important to make sure that everybody knows.
The fact that there is other scientific methods being used may stop you recovering any DNA but if you try we'll see what happens. But she is very, very good and when she indicates there is always blood there.”
Martin Grime
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P9/09_VOLUME_IXa_Page_2463.jpg
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There IS (not was) ALWAYS blood there.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CruftMs/status/1011551163894910976
ReplyDeleteMichigan court's ruling on Grime’s dogs
Never mind folks, all the serious comment is over on Insane's blog. We have the the wunnerful John BS entertaining the masses with a commentary on the World Cup -- a kind of analogy on the state of the McCann case. John BS who doesn't engage with anyone, apparently, but clearly watches from the long grass. John BS is so witty, there's copious weeping and peeing all over Insane's blog. It's time to open an exclusive area on that blog called The Locked Ward for those with a heightened sense of humour but weak bladders. And, before it's too late, let's harvest the commentary from the World Cup! We could call it The Empty Cupboard...? Apparently, dogs can sometimes eat their own vomitāre?
ReplyDeleteWe would like to draw the attention of our readers to the following comment submitted tonight by Mr Paulo Reis on our post "The pool photo".
ReplyDeleteWe are bringing it over to this post as it may go unnoticed for now in that post:
"Paulo Reis27 Jun 2018, 21:35:00
Only today I saw the mention of my name, in this post, about the fact that "it’s uncertain if he (me...) was a researcher/translator or just a translator" of the letter sent to the Head of Portuguese Public Prosecutor Office. I am a journalist since 1981 (37 years...) but I am also a professional translator English/Portuguese. I was contacted, as a professional translator, by a client and asked if I was willing to do that work (translators, like journalists have a deontological code and can’t reveal the name of their clients, unless they give specific authorization for that). I accepted, translated the letter to Portuguese and was paid for that. I played no part in the research that produced the letter.
You can confirm my credentials as journalist in this link:
Paulo Reis, Professional Card Nº 351: https://www.ccpj.pt/pt/profissionais-do-sector/
You can confirm my registration, as a freelance translator, in this link:
Paulo Reis, translator English/Portuguese: https://www.proz.com/profile/1128968
Regards"
What's that then?
ReplyDeleteThe cesspit paid him to translate something? What was it again?
Can you elaborate please...
Is this man drunk or drugged???
ReplyDeleteIn NT's blog:
john blacksmith26 June 2018 at 11:20
And - World Cup Latest
Irrelevantia 0 Scepticanian Republic 8
A stroll. Littlemore, like Kane, gets buffeted every game but continues to press home the advantage, apparently impervious to bruises. In a dismal and distressing display Misty Frogspawn (midfield transgender giant) was eventually pulled off for repeatedly fouling itself. And Jules? Well we all know how good Jules is, don’t we? Walker-Bale looks very tired. After returning from convalescence late substitute Anslow effortlessly brushed aside the opposition. Someone to watch.
Littlemore 2 Jules 1 Frogspawn (OG) 3 Anslow 2
Ruritania 0 Brainsia 5
Bottom of the table Ruritania seem to have lost all belief since its recent run of humiliations, with rumours of tension in the dressing room and desertion by the fans. Striker and tactical mastermind Titsuser was carried off after a truly awful kick in the head from “Chopper” Watcher at centre back. No red card was awarded. VAR confirmed that had Watcher aimed at the buttocks then brain damage was possible but since he’d gone safely for thick tissue it would be “unfair” to penalise him, despite the blood. As usual, left back Guedes was only semi-engaged. The Sicko-Fante twins – showing up all over the pitch – proved that belief rather than talent is not enough, with the younger one scoring an unprecedented own goal from the opponents’ half.
Titsuser (OG) 2 Sicko-Fante, P, (OG) Sicko-Fante, J, (OG) Watcher 1
Cesspittovicia 0 Silverdonia 0
An appalling, dreadful, game. Supposed midfield “provider” Binnit heaved a lot of ugly balls in the direction of where he thinks the goal is – it isn’t – while fiddling incessantly and unpleasantly with his ill-fitting shorts. The opponents, whose tactics come from the 2007 “How to Win” Coaching Files and dodgy newsfeeds from the Sun sports pages plodded around in the mud. Dire.
Stop press: Cesspittovicia has submitted a 28 000 page complaint in blue biro to FIFA about the result. Asked to comment, a senior FIFA official said, “The language of this association is English, so we are waiting for a translator”. Asked what language the complaint was written in, she replied, “English.”
It's an attempt at humour whilst masking huge anger and frustration.
DeleteDoes anyone remember a Blacksmith post a few years ago, called Toast?
DeleteIt was simply a picture of burnt toast, implying the McCanns were due for an imminent disaster.
Like many posts, it was deleted very quickly, as were similar posts featuring pictures of soiled underwear.
There seemed to be one of Blacksmith’s team who liked rather childish graphics, but until recently, I thought he was working on his own.
Not so, it seems.
Anonymous 28 Jun 2018, 15:22:00,
DeleteWe do remember a post entitled "Clunk" with thethe picture of the McCanns and another of apair of handcuffs. Over a year ago.
Those handcuffs must be rusty by now andwhoevdr gave Blacksmith that inside information really made him look foolish.
As my mum used to tell me "if every single day you predict that is going to rain tomorrow, then you can brag that you rightfully predicted every single day that has rained, allyou need is just not to have the shame to admit all the times you were wrong for every single day that it didn't rain".
Sometimes it's very easy to "ALWAYS" be right...
JBS usually wrote well, even if I didn’t agree with him, but he’s descended to NT’s puerile references to incontinence. Insane always was going on about wetting himself. It’s also misogynistic in the refs to Tena pads.
DeleteWhen you work with people who have this problem, there’s nothing amusing about it for them.
This is a completely disrespectful blog in relation to a dead child.
Disgusting
Actually, they are very cleverly distracting from the unanswered questions by trying to set up a deliberately provocative debate.
DeleteWhat about an answer to the probability of sample 3a being blood ?
It was a simple question
https://mobile.twitter.com/DaveHallCoLtd/status/1012581110826586112/photo/1
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Blacksmith's comment reeks of snobbery and disdain for those he considers beneath him.
Some who fight for M may be unemployed or struggling to pay debts, but that doesn’t make them lesser people. Some may have lost a beloved partner, so gloating about living in luxury with your lovely wife is nauseating.
Remember the days when he was a heroin addict. Taxpayers were paying for his prescriptions and somebody had to be subsiding his louche lifestyle. So he shouldn’t be so supercilious.
Seriously?
DeleteFactsmith / John BS (very apt the BS bit) was a junkie?
Wow!
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/antony-sharples/the-scorpions-tail/
DeleteAs Blacksmith himself mentioned his book, one of us looked it up and saw this review. It didn’t deter us from buying a second-hand copy. Anyone who kicks their drug habit is to be commended but it shouldn’t give them the right to convey a sense of superiority over lesser mortals.
He also encouraged readers to buy a copy of his book, No Stone Unturned, a few years back. Many were tantalised by the extracts he put out, speculating it had hidden references to the M case.
However, as it happened to be written in 2005, it obviously didn’t.
To give him his due, he did say he would make a donation to Mr Amaral’s fund and we’re sure he must have done so, even though his support for GA seemed to wane when GA mentioned things like the involvement and interference of MI5.
Blacksmith wrote that he was going to be a witness for GA in the damages case, but for whatever reason, this never happened.
No idea what he could have said to help. Maybe those in close contact with him can ask him if they want to know more.
At least he isn’t posting his restaurant bills.
DeleteTex @ 15:43 wrote:
ReplyDeleteAs my mum used to tell me "if every single day you predict that is going to rain tomorrow, then you can brag that you rightfully predicted every single day that has rained, all you need is just not to have the shame to admit all the times you were wrong for every single day that it didn't rain".
That's just like the gambler who'll inform you of him winning a tenner on the gee,gee's forgetting to mention the tenner lost on each of the previous 364 days.
I see the other side takes great exception to a taste of their own medicine.
ReplyDeleteJohn Blacksmith has replied:
ReplyDeletejohn blacksmith29 June 2018 at 16:58
Hiya. If the comments you mention were about me - I've only just looked - it's no problem at all.
Look, I've never underestimated the great - murderous in one case - strength of the feelings that the McCann case provokes, on all sides. That's because, as I've always said, the McCanns unknowingly tried to play with forces that they don't understand and which, due to the net, have "infected" people psychologically with hate.
I found that out ten years ago and took the precaution, knowing I was in it for the long haul, of ensuring that there was, and is, nothing in my life that can be dug up to embarrass me. The smack stuff, which I made sure I put up on the 3 Arguidos doesn't worry me in the least: if you do things, you must accept the consequences. And if I dish it out to the conmen and liars and their victims then I expect to get it back in kind. Including the accusation - it's lobster time again, folks - that I'm a rich paedophile (Bennett's suggestion).
Brenda, God rest her soul, found out the hard way just how violent these murky waters are. Me, I couldn't give a f***. I won't be alive for long in any case now so I have nothing to fear from anyone, vengeful or otherwise. It's a great feeling.
For those who don't know about the witness for Amaral stuff, it's nothing special. Having heard all the witness evidence as it occurred in Lisbon I was asked to submit information to the defence lawyers about the inability of the McCann witnesses, including McBride, to produce any evidence backing up their specific claims on the impact of the book in the UK when it was published.
The quantitative evidence of its impact was there to be found, as they knew. I found it and it directly contradicted the witness testimonies and most of Duarte's case. In view of the facts I provided, Amaral's team asked for an extension of time and the witness list so that I could testify and be cross-examined on my claims. The judge was trying to get the case finished but granted their request and I was put on the list and was waiting to fly over.
Then the McCanns asked to address the court and the judge ruled there would no longer be time for any more witnesses.
The pro-McCanns leave me alone, dirt-hunting-wise, these days and prefer to pretend that "The Drunk" Blacksmith doesn't exist. That is, indeed, the only strategy for dealing with the exact and documented evidence I've provided, as Nessling eventually learned: there is, literally, no answer to it.
The U.S and the Loonie followers are too stupid to work out that strategy yet but they will. It's in their own interest, poor sods.
What JBS said in the past
Delete“I am not a blogger. I have no interest at all in giving opinions for their own sake. The only reason for the Bureau’s brief existence was to help Amaral in his struggle with the McCanns, by providing information from the police and other confidential sources which was being hidden from the public and by acting as a link between Portugal and selected U.K. media. .....
To conclude. I do not regard the McCanns as killers or conspirators in the disposal of Madeleine McCann. I have no theory whatsoever as to who did what on May 3.”
This suggests he was not originally intending to be involved in the “ long haul” ?
Presumably not referring to OG as he’s always said they were NOT leaking to anyone?
And no information about who selected media were.
Later followed by articles which focused on how angry and uncontrolled K could be, which was meant to suggest what exactly?
“For those who don't know about the witness for Amaral stuff, it's nothing special. Having heard all the witness evidence as it occurred in Lisbon I was asked to submit information to the defence lawyers about the inability of the McCann witnesses, including McBride, to produce any evidence backing up their specific claims on the impact of the book in the UK when it was published.”
DeleteSurely JBS is not saying that GA’s defence team went into court ill-prepared. The list of witnesses from both sides are known before so both legal teams can prepare, but JBS says that during the trial he was asked to submit information about the characters of the McCann witnesses! Why didn’t GA’s team think of that before? And why ask JBS? Wouldn’t there be other people whose opinion would be taken more seriously in a court than that of a blogger? Does he expect anyone to believe this?
Textusa, were you asked to submit information as well?
15.17,
DeleteTo be fair to JBS, he may have had info through his newspaper contacts, which showed how little GAs book was known of in the U.K. Unlike Emma Loach, who said she’d seen it in a U.K. bookshop.
Apart from newspapers, pre twitter days, unless the public followed the case through bloggers, they wouldn’t know about the book or where to find the unofficial translation.
15:57
DeleteThe point I was making was that JBS was just being ridiculous when trying to make himself important. What use would be his contacts - if he really has them - when you'd think the Mcs witnesses were on the wrong side as they shot themselves all over their own feet when they said that the negative public opinion about the McCanns did not come from GA's book but much before that. So why look for experts to confirm what the prosecution witnesses who were saying what was very hurtful to the McCanns' case?
Even if you are right, why seek JBS? If GA's defence team wanted a blogger, wouldn't Joana Morais be the obvious one? Doubt if (same question, why would she be contacted?)she was contacted she would suggest JBS - who he often insulted with very abusive language in his blog.
Censored comment we have received at 17:45:
Delete“What happened to my (censored); comment? I meant it in a jokey way and that is why I added a lol to it. Considering the names Blacksmith has called people over the years I would have thought my comment was mild and did not need deleting.”
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Anonymous at 17:45,
We have deleted your original comment and have censored this one as when our opponents choose to go low, we prefer to keep dignified and above that common crowd of abusers.
As you say, in comparison your comment was mild but we rather not risk it. We respect if you disagree, and if you do disagree, we hope that you understand.
"The pro-McCanns leave me alone, dirt-hunting-wise, these days and prefer to pretend that "The Drunk" Blacksmith doesn't exist. That is, indeed, the only strategy for dealing with the exact and documented evidence I've provided, as Nessling eventually learned: there is, literally, no answer to it." Seems to be suggesting that Blacksmith needs to be left alone to carry on with his riddles, insults and put-downs. What exactly did Nessling learn from all of this?
ReplyDeleteEarlier: "And if I dish it out to the conmen and liars and their victims then I expect to get it back in kind." WHY would you want to dish it out to the victims?
thanks textusa
ReplyDeleteyes ! "very last campaign of british empire".
ReplyDeletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/Millsyj73/status/1013733744631574528
ReplyDeletePam Gurney says the BLOOD under tile was a PJ officer.
Nonsense, their DNA samples were taken for comparison. It’s in Pj files.
Bringing it over to the blog:
Delete“Jason mills@Millsyj73
#mccann comedy gold. Well it’s been a while since we heard from gurney,but she’s just come out with this absolute nugget. So going by her logic then (and I’m by no means an expert here) this officer is 99%madeleine sewing as 15/19 markers of the DNA belonged to her!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhGBdp1W4AAlCV_?format=jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhGBdpxX4AAIdRC?format=jpg
11:38 AM · Jul 2, 2018”
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One picture is of a horse the other says this:
“Pamela Gurney * 11 hours ago
There was no blood under the tile. The blood on the tile when delivered to FSS was found to be from Lino Henrique the GNR officer who lifted it”
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BLOOD.htm
To note, there is a video recording of tile removal.
Lino Henriques gave mouth swab. No case at all that his was blood on tile.
But Pam Gurney is saying it WAS blood. Even Gurney contradicts NT!
On a post called “And now for something completely different. Again.”, published on Monday, 19 October 2015, NT says this about Gurney:
“Pamela Gurney is 85”
We REALLY would like to know how NT knows Pamela Gurney’s age.
Textusa,
DeleteWell done for finding that!
I remembered somewhere that NT said Pam G was eighty-something.
I think he may be correct, unless I’ve confused her with some innocent pensioner with a liking for rubber boots. For that reason, I’ll say no more.
That post was just not funny and full of crude references. Lost the will to live reading that. It was the style of an adolescent boy.
Textusa, :( , ttttt . You are well aware NT is an intuitive. He knows everything about everything, and that's it !
ReplyDeleteNo need to always prove anything with facts.
Happy birthday, NT !
The link to tile examination shows it was done under supervision of Jonathan Smith from U.K.
ReplyDeleteIt’s isn’t stated where he was from. Was he police or FSS specialist maybe?
Unless it’s stated elsewhere and I missed it
https://www1.bournemouth.ac.uk/about/our-faculties/faculty-science-technology/our-departments/forensic-science-research-group/forensic-science-research-group-staff
Could this be him, the person who supervised the forensic examinations in 5A?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-forensics-cold-case-files-410747.html?amp
At FSS, so this must be him?
He seems to have been advisor to FSS and worked for NCA.
Strange why he gets so little mention.
The bungling PJ investigators were being advised by him!
May be considered nit-picking, but I think 'supervision' is too strong a word unless there is any other evidence that he was actually there.
ReplyDeleteHe appears to have given advice on the procedures to be followed:
'It was also requested of the undersigned that they entered into contact with an
English scientific advisor, named Jonathan Smith, who indicates the manner in which
to proceed with the recovery of those spots.In that contact the undersigned were told that they should use in the recovery of each spot two (2) swabs: one applied directly onto the spot, and the other previously moistened with distilled water and then applied onto the spot.'
Doug D
Doug D,
DeleteWe don’t know if J. Smith was present as PJ files just mention his name and you may be correct.
However, as there’s no letter of instruction in Portuguese from him, we wondered whether he was present, as we can’t see how his instructions were conveyed.
But we also know the tile removal was filmed and that DVD isn’t included in the released files, so it’s possible his written instructions weren’t included either.
Thank you, as always, for your constructive challenges.
I assumed supervision meant being present, otherwise I’d have expected wording to say-written instructions from...
DeleteBut agree it’s ambiguous.
The filmed version may show who was present but, unfortunately, it’s not available.
Sorry - I introduced word supervision which was my interpretation.
DeleteThe word used is “indicated”
Which I took to mean he was there supervising, as indicated rather than instructed suggested to me he was present.
Just to be clear I wasn’t trying to mislead.
It’s ambiguous and Doug may be correct.
From our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"Have just noticed this from NT dated 29th June: "Taking issue with the opinion expressed by a poster is one thing; pointless personal abuse or accusations/speculation with respect to their identity, marital status, gender etc is quite another." Yet he goes on to call any woman who doesn't agree with him "tart" "bitch" "bint""dozy cow""witch"......so, NT is quite happy with misogyny then."
Going back through the reports, I don’t think I had ever appreciated that Keela, the blood dog, was taken back to 5A for a second time on 3rd August, presumably to see if there was any blood remaining following removal of the tiles and skirting.
ReplyDelete3rd August 2007. 17.17 PM
Inspection by Sniffer Dog
Location: Apartment 5 A in the Ocean Club) Praia da Luz, Lagos
Participants:
1. PJ - Ricardo Paiva
2. UK Mark Harrison
3. UK Martin Grime, UK Forensic Canine P SM Expert
4. Keela - English Springer
The entire activity was filmed and recorded (sound).
On this date a new sniffer dog inspection was carried out in the apartment mentioned above, with the help of the dog Keela who detects human blood remains. The activity produced the following results:
19.19 The dog "marked" an area of tiles in the living room, next to the window and behind the sofa.
19.20 The dog "marked" the lower part of the left white coloured curtain of the window behind the sofa.
The original searches by both dogs were carried out on the 31st July, followed by the removal of tiles and skirting on the evening of 1st and into the 2nd August.
Keela was then taken back to 5a on 3rd, so after the tiles had been lifted and skirting removed and the swabs were then taken overnight on 4th/5th, in accordance with the advice given by Jonathan Smith.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BLOOD.htm
Other than the ‘Duarte Levy’ footage of the dog search in 5A, is anyone aware of any other ‘time & date stamped’ footage of the original searches, or indeed of this second search?
Pamalam’s timeline of the dogs activity makes no mention of this second search:
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id161.htm
and maybe the second search is why GA got the date wrong in his book.
Doug D
Like NT, Walkercan1000/Bale2N is also a scientist:
ReplyDeletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1014070718668165120
Bale2LiverpoolNil@Bale2N
#McCann Tweet of the day “it’s her DNA because I say so” (PhD (crying laughing emoticon) (crying laughing emoticon) (crying laughing emoticon) (crying laughing emoticon)).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhKz8A4XUAAxKcS?format=jpg
9:57 am · 3 Jul 2018
[The picture attached was the transcription of the following 2 tweets by @BresnickJanine:
https://twitter.com/BresnickJanine/status/1014044169818509312
janine bresnick @BresnickJanine
Replying to @Millsyj73
Well I have a PhD in genetics and I'm saying it was her DNA. The results couldn't be fudged so the conclusions were
12:12 am - 3 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/BresnickJanine/status/1014046525431910400
janine bresnick @BresnickJanine
Replying to @Millsyj73
Well tell that 2 the 3 eminent scientists at King's who awarded me my PhD. My synopsis of the evidence is in a file on FB AbScam and other pages #McCann
12:21 am - 3 Jul 2018]
Replies:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TonyMiles73/status/1014085901474062342
Tony Miles@TonyMiles73
Replying to @Bale2N
I’d sooner take the word of someone who has PhD attatched to their name,than some clueless bum troll on twitter (you). XXX
10:58 am · 3 Jul 2018
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1014094292531515393
Bale2LiverpoolNil@Bale2N
Replying to @TonyMiles73
I’ve got two PhD’s.
11:31 am · 3 Jul 2018
And, unlike NT is willing to do (why?) Bale reveals in what one of his 2 PhDs is on:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1014096489210138624
Bale2LiverpoolNil @Bale2N
Replying to @may_shazzy @BresnickJanine @Millsyj73
I’ve got a PhD in genetics. So did Lowe’s staff who actually did the work. This #McCann Troll was nowhere near it. Bless. XXX
3:40 am - 3 Jul 2018
As far as we know, John Lowe didn’t have a PhD.
DeleteWhy did a lower ranking staff member have such an important job?
The Portuguese side had Professor Corte-Real.
From our "FB Anon":
Delete"John Lowe - according to his Linkedin profile, he doesn't have a PhD and wasn't a Principal Forensic Scientist until November 2008"
From our "FB Anon":
Delete"Also from John Lowe's Linkedin profile: "Excelled in the interpretation of DNA profiling results; including low template and complex DNA mixtures." Except when it came to Madeleine McCann's DNA which was too complex....how strange."
Something Nick/Anon has said on NT’s blog:
ReplyDelete“Nick2 July 2018 at 12:30
Read a few threads over there...and everytime verdi is challenged head on with facts...he/she splutters and will not answer the point raised. So blatant.”
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Interesting that, for example, that we didn’t get opinion from NT on links we provided to Phillips the scientist, suggesting FSS could have undertaken subtraction analysis to obtain results. For example:
Is it still possible?
How is it carried out?
It’s in our comment made at 31 May 2018, 22:05:00 in our post:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue.html)
As the reader can easily understand why, we will be using Nick’s “so blatant” comment often in the future.
Still waiting for answer on probability of sample 3a being blood.
DeleteAnonymous 4 Jul 2018, 18:30:00,
DeleteAnd we're still waiting for Nick to tells us what he thinks Eddie alerted to in the backyard.
And all Sade has "forgotten" to answer.
So blatant, as Nick would say.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JusticeForMadeleine/permalink/1778578612238205/
ReplyDeletePaul Rees shared a post
Wed at 09.10
(Gerry's big sister Philomena McCann blamed blood found in apartment 5A on mosquitoes flying into walls, for the uninitiated.)
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This is the same FB Group that then supports and actively promotes NT who says that there was no blood found in apartment 5A.
Certainly, above the group is being sarcastic about Philomena McCann’s ignorance of there being NO BLOOD rather than for her having presenting a ridiculous reason for BLOOD she thought had been found but that, as per group’s subscription, was not found at all.
I think Phil’s explanation was the best attempt at an excuse so far.
DeleteAt least she accepted blood had been alerted to.
Anyone who has been attacked by mosquitoes (they love me) knows the walls are indeed splattered with small amounts of blood when they are swatted.
But not enough blood to seep under a floor tile.
Anonymous 5 Jul 2018, 13:54:00
DeleteIt’s obvious that Philomena McCann is being ridiculous. She’s grasping at straws to find an explanation for the blood found in 5A not to be Maddie’s.
The point is that one cannot support and promote someone who says there was no blood found and then publish things that make it clear blood was found.
One cannot support and promote someone who says there was no blood found in 5A and then publish things saying that the splatters found in the living-room belonged to Maddie.
Also, one cannot support and promote someone who says the EVRD dog can only say there is cadaver scent but not tell where it has come from (the location of source of the scent) and then publish things that make it clear that the EVRD dog indicates that Maddie died in that apartment.
One cannot support and promote someone who refuses to say from what source originated Eddie’s alert in the backyard and then defend that Maddie’s body was in that flowerbed.
One cannot support and promote someone who pushes the time of the Smith sighting forward and questions the importance of that sighting and then defends that Smithman is Gerry McCann.
It would be like this blog to be supporting and promoting Pamela Gurney and then say, as it says, that there was no abduction.
If we did that, we would be insulting our readers’ intelligence, wouldn’t we?
Like we have said before, one is free to choose, however one is not free of the consequences of the choices one makes.
To those who think this is a personal feud (our faithful readers know us and know we would never go down that path) we will soon show how Justice for Madeleine FB group made a choice.
No, it’s not the decision to delete all our posts published in that group nor the one to promote NT there. It was a decision made before any of that.
Sade has replied to this comment and in NT’s blog:
DeleteSade Anslow6 July 2018 at 11:12
Can't wait to find out what it is that Justice on Facebook did- not deleting all her posts, not supporting you, NT, oh no. Something much more exciting!
Come on Textusa, this is the Netflix generation, we don't like hanging from cliffs these days!
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Sade Anslow,
We note that you demand much but deliver so little as we are still waiting for the answers to the very direct questions we have asked you.
If you follow Nick and choose to be silent, then we have just to quote Nick to you:
“Nick2 July 2018 at 12:30
Read a few threads over there...and everytime verdi is challenged head on with facts...he/she splutters and will not answer the point raised. So blatant.”
Just change “verdi" for “Sade Anslow” above.
About what we write and when we write it, we are the ones to decide. If the suspense is killing you, tough luck. If it's not, then you couldn't care less so it's irrelevant to you when we do.
But nonetheless, glad that you “can't wait to find out what it is that Justice on Facebook did”.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1014974436905275392
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86 @comeonengland18 and 4 others
See A. versus State of Norway. Classic example. Say hello to Watcher & Antonio from me. :)
1:48 pm - 5 Jul 2018
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A very interesting tweet.
Bringing it over to the blog just so it’s known that it was noticed and noted.
Interesting, the Frog mentions the ‘S’ word:
Deletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1014997107525214208
Green Leaper@FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18 @xxMichelleSxx and 3 others
What - like swinging, a badly told story, Calpol, syringes, Gerry not the father.....that sort of favourable information> #mccann
11:19 PM · Jul 5, 2018
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Do note that "swinging”, unlike “Calpol”, “syringes” and “Gerry not the father”, gets “a badly told story”" specially dedicated to it.
Blacksmith, has replied to this comment, as usual in NT’s blog:
Delete“john blacksmith6 July 2018 at 10:25
"We see," says Textusa, in that curiously pompous locution it uses to cover the fact that he/she is more Anglo-Saxon than I am, "we see that Walker/NT made a fatal mistake today when Walker deleted NT, thus confirming all our claims. We have a screenshot secured for future use and action."
No, not really.
But Textusa did say today, referring to a post of little Misty: "Do note that "swinging”, unlike “Calpol”, “syringes” and “Gerry not the father”, gets “a badly told story” specially dedicated to it."
Textusa, "a badly told story" does not relate to swinging, so your inference - which is worth a post of its own for its deluded self-importance - is about as wrong as it could be.
"A badly told story", is originally a ten year old headline from 'Diario de Noticias' referring to the early police description of the McCanns' abduction bullshit. It was on Little M's list, alongside swinging and other such fatuities because it became,and remains, definitive shorthand for "they made it all up".
But who am I to come between you and Misty?”
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We will leave it to readers to decide on whether the Frog when using “a badly told story” meant it about swinging or about a headline from a Portuguese newspaper 10 years ago.
Interesting to see Blacksmith joining the gang of those downplaying the importance to the reputation of people if outed publicly as swingers with the aggravated circumstances of having absolutely disrespected the memory of a little girl for the past decade in their effort to save their own backsides. And also what they made Mr Amaral and his family have to go through.
Also note that Blacksmith refers to the Frog as “little Misty”. Does he know who Misty/Frog is?
The Frog on the other hand mentions does mention a “Watcher” and an “Antonio” and a “Watcher” and always when in interaction with Sade Anslow:
Tweet #01:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/994273960010420224
“Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86
Poor Antonio can't quite work out which side he's batting for this week. (laughing emoticon) (laughing emoticon)
10:52 am - 9 May 2018”
Tweet #02:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/994288981058752512
“Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86
I've read a lot of Antonio's "work", Sade but I'm not pretentious enough to profess to have any understanding of his McCann rhetoric beyond hatred for MSM. So, please humour me before he has another hissy-fit & deletes everything again.
11:52 am - 9 May 2018”
Tweet #03:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/999426136433049601
“Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86 @nicktownsend12 and 12 others
If Antonio actually understood what he had posted, you may have a point. As it stands....well, his blogs always make more sense if you read from the bottom upwards.
4:05 pm - 23 May 2018”
Tweet #04:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010655311055740930
“Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86
Yet 5 years later Madeleine is still missing, the parents have still not been arrested & Antonio is still pontificating ...... Still, at least you have your new spiritual home on NT. (laughing emoticon) (laughing emoticon) (laughing emoticon)
3:46 PM - 23 Jun 2018”
(Cont)
(Cont)
DeleteTweet #05:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1010662623363387392
“Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86
LOL. Don't take Antonio seriously or it is you who will be destroyed from within before you are even aware of any infection.
4:15 PM - 23 Jun 2018”
Tweet #06:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1014974436905275392
“Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @SadeElisha86 @comeonengland18 and 4 others
See A. versus State of Norway. Classic example. Say hello to Watcher & Antonio from me. :)
1:48 pm - 5 Jul 2018”
Interesting, Blacksmith also mentions a “Watcher”. Quoting from comment by Anonymous 28 Jun 2018, 13:42:00, quoting Blacksmith (our caps):
“Ruritania 0 Brainsia 5
Bottom of the table Ruritania seem to have lost all belief since its recent run of humiliations, with rumours of tension in the dressing room and desertion by the fans. Striker and tactical mastermind Titsuser was carried off after a truly awful kick in the head from “Chopper” WATCHER at centre back. No red card was awarded. VAR confirmed that had WATCHER aimed at the buttocks then brain damage was possible but since he’d gone safely for thick tissue it would be “unfair” to penalise him, despite the blood. As usual, left back Guedes was only semi-engaged. The Sicko-Fante twins – showing up all over the pitch – proved that belief rather than talent is not enough, with the younger one scoring an unprecedented own goal from the opponents’ half.
Titsuser (OG) 2 Sicko-Fante, P, (OG) Sicko-Fante, J, (OG) WATCHER 1”
About “he/she [Textusa] is more Anglo-Saxon than I am”, gosatvas ed sbaer, noã gostaavas?
gosatvas ed sbaer, noã gostaavas?
DeleteRsrsrsrsrs
Adorei! Os bifes q têm a mania q sabem tudo vão andar à nora para perceber! ;)
From NT: “Nick posted an interesting comment here, so I thought I would dust it off and give it a bit of a bump”:
ReplyDelete“Nick 5 July 2018 at 14:38
Holy shit. Have been backreading your blog and this has to be the most worrying bullshit from textusa. Instead of just admitting that it could be manslaughter and concede a point to you...she would rather be seen as someone that rose west wouldn't allow near her kids. Un-fucking-believable....and actually troubling. Surely her "fans" must see it for what it is. And lets not even discuss the childish diversion attempt....”
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Nick, we remind readers is Anon posting in our blog and a prominent member of the Justice for Madeleine FB group.
About Nick’s “Instead of just admitting that it could be manslaughter and concede a point to you”, we have said this in our post “The reliability of the cadaver dogs” (Jan 26 2018):
“Note that we’re not in any way implying that Maddie was murdered. We believe and have always defended that she was the victim of an accident, which in the Portuguese penal code would be a non-qualified homicide without negligence or intent, the equivalent to involuntary manslaughter.”
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-reliability-of-cadaver-dogs.html#comment-form
Don’t think it could be clearer.
Now Nick please quote NT where he has ever claimed that the Maddie case “could be manslaughter” and then quote him where he complains we have denied this.
Thank you.
Your silence, if it is what follows, will be so, so blatant.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1014881440968912896
ReplyDeleteBale2LiverpoolNil@Bale2N
Is cadaverine emitted by the living with illnesses/infections? Yes. Was the 5a crime scene re-let to 3 other families? Yes. Were the dogs sent in too late? Yes. Is there an evidential trail to #McCann s? No. Did the dogs find anything? No. Thanks. XXX
3:39 PM · Jul 5, 2018
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It’s consensual that Bale2N is Walkercan1000.
Notice how similar this theory is to the one defended by Nick and his theory that patients dying with cancer are a significant source of cadaver scent that then his propagated by those who were near these terminally ill patients.
This theory is supported by NT’s theory that cadaver scent doesn’t have a physical source emitting but it is made up ONLY of airborne molecules released by a body when in situ.
We hope readers are now starting to understand that when we speak of NT, Walker, Bale, Nick, Sade, Justice for Madeleine and Blacksmith (just to name some) we are absolutely not being personal?
Textusa, why the obsession with FragrantFrogs tweets?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 7 Jul 2018, 09:33:00,
DeleteYour worry about our "obsession with FragrantFrogs tweets" answers your question.
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1015572001833082882
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
For Textusa - an exclusive clip of Blacksmith in a top secret interview somewhere near Rothley Towers (date withheld for security purposes). I really should humbly apologise to both him & NT for destroying their street cred - but I just can't. (crying laughing emoticon)(crying laughing emoticon)
https://youtu.be/WDvJyGRpozY
5:23 am - 7 Jul 2018
Replies:
https://twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1015580569642643456
Jules... 🏴 @comeonengland18
Replying to @FragrantFrog
Are you ok Frog.. You don't seem yourself...?
5:57 am - 7 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1015583822547705857
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18
I was myself last time I checked.....maybe you just don't know what I'm referring to.
6:10 am - 7 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1015584873891942401
Jules... 🏴 @comeonengland18
Replying to @FragrantFrog
Subliminal again... (thumbs up emoticon)
6:14 am - 7 Jul 2018
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Dear Frog,
Thank you. Message received, understood and noted.
Quite a dumb thing to do to call Watcher ‘Watcher’. Word playing with the letter ‘W’ would be the obvious last thing he should have done but did. Such carelessness often happens to those who think themselves smarter than the rest of humanity.
To our readers, both to those who support us and to those who dislike us, let us be very clear that we are in no way siding with the Frog. The Frog decided to share with us something and we are simply acknowledging that. What motivated the Frog to do this, is a Frog’s exclusive decision in which we played no part.
We are non-believers when it comes to thinking that an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine.
We don’t side with anyone but truth. If someone is, truly, for the truth then we side with that person. Once that same person shows that they were only pretending to side with the truth, we drop them instantly as some have found out.
For example, about this tweet from the Frog:
https://mobile.twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1015360100024897537
“Green Leaper@FragrantFrog
Replying to @annienonymouss
Top tip. Investigating the disappearance of a child is apparently a waste of valuable resources, money & time in Portugal. It's far easier to blame the parents, plant some evidence & force a confession. Never mind what happened to the child, eh? #mccann
11:21 PM · Jul 6, 2018”
This is absolutely ridiculous. How does one plant cadaver evidence?
“Desperation” to suggest this.
However it’s becoming clearer and clearer what this “desperation” is all about.
If PJ were going to plant cadaver evidence, presumably after visiting the local mortuary and obtaining something to daub the McCann’s property with, why not somewhere more obvious, like M’s bed or some of her clothing?
DeleteWhat a grossly libellous comment to make. To accuse PJ officers of perverting the course of justice, or whatever the Portuguese equivalent may be.
Unsurprisingly, NT plays dirty.
ReplyDeleteIn his latest post he bets strongly that his readers will not make the effort to go to the original post that he has decided to criticise, using the excuse that he’s “bumping” an old post when he’s in fact writing a new one:
“This is a post from several years back, bumped on request (thanks Nick)
I wrote this is the early days and before I developed my 'system', so it is shorter than usual and I have converted my text to a red font so that it is in keeping with all the others. It is perhaps one which would benefit from going back to the Textusa post and starting again, but anyway, this will hopefully explain at least in part why I have such an issue with the barmy old bint”
Then he says: “Textusa's campaign of abuse against an innocent child started with a post entitled, ironically enough, ''A Child Abused''”
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/03/child-abused.html
He doesn’t in this post, like we have above, provide a link to the post.
When quoting us from it he uses the word REDACTED [in bold red] twice.
Let’s then see what he has redacted when quoting our blog in his latest post:
NT’s blog: “So why was REDACTED [in bold red] at 08.00, on a school day, walking down Rua Dr. Francisco Gentil Martins?”
Our blog: “So why was TS at 08.00, on a school day, walking down Rua Dr. Francisco Gentil Martins?”
And:
NT’s blog: “REDACTED [in bold red], the witness mentioned in the post, was an 11 yr old child when, on May 9th, 2007, made her statement to the PJ.”
Our blog: “TS, the witness mentioned in the post, was an 11 yr old child when, on May 9th, 2007, made her statement to the PJ.”
So what has NT redacted? The initials ‘TS’.
Initials we used EXACTLY to protect the identity of the child in question. Could someone be more dishonest than NT is being?
Unlike him, we provide the links to the posts where we mentioned TS, including the one he quotes from so readers can make up their minds on how abusive we were to TS:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/03/edgars-cronic-discrepancy-syndrome.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/03/child-abused.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/04/not-even-alice-in-wonderland.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/04/in-previous-post-not-even-alice-in.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/04/mockery-within-mockery.html
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ReplyDeleteDo note that this latest post was proposed by Nick:
“Nick6 July 2018 at 22:47
Nt...i've spent the last couple of days back reading your blog. To say some of what you have had to deal with is mental...and frankly how you have dissected these ramblings is dedication. I was wondering if you could bump some of your posts from late april 2014,dealing with textusas abuse of a child witness forward...to show newbies like myself how outrageous her bs is? And what the outcome of your notifying the authorities was?”
To which he NT replied, quite the coincidence that he was already thinking of asking his readers which posts they would like bumped:
“Not Textusa7 July 2018 at 03:15
Hi Nick - you must have read my mind, I was going to ask people to flag up anything they think should be bumped. I'll certainly bump those. In terms of the response of the authorities, they were very helpful and she remains ''on their radar''.
In terms of bumping posts, would people prefer I provide a link, or do you want me to copy and paste the whole thing?”
After the publication of the dishonest post, Nick had this to say:
“Nick7 July 2018 at 05:36
Thanks nt...i hope everyone reads this and the follow up blog posts nt writes. It is utterly abhorrent what is going on here. Textusa -if you are reading this you she be mortified at ypur behaviour. And have since apologised to the family. In their shoes i'd have at the least approached a lawyer.
Nick7 July 2018 at 05:51
*your”
Nick, now that you are at peace and reassured by NT that the authorities have been helpful about us and that we remain “on their radar”, you can now answer the question we have put you.
If you insist in remaining silent, then like we did with Sade, we have just to quote you to you:
“Nick2 July 2018 at 12:30
Read a few threads over there...and everytime verdi is challenged head on with facts...he/she splutters and will not answer the point raised. So blatant.”
Just change “verdi" for “Nick” above.
People who support NT can now see how he supports a fake sighting as nobody believes there was a spottyman unless they support the abductor theory.
ReplyDeleteNT has basically declared his support for the existence of this man.
Now there's another question for Sade Anslow and Nick:
DeleteDo you believe that Spottyman (who we have here called Pimpleman) is real?
One person we know who doesn’t believe Spottyman/Pimpleman is real is John Blacksmith.
DeleteOn his post “The Death of MancCannstein's Monster” published Wednesday, 21 March 2018:
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-death-of-manccannsteins-monster.html
“And then look at this, an internet collation of some of the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created, revelled in and thrust at us month after month, year after year as the truth of the world until Grange finally stopped them diverting the investigation any longer. But that is only their world, the McCann world.”
In the picture he publishes, one of the “vile, stinking, filthy images” is that of Spottyman/Pimpleman. This man:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01457/spotty_1457596i.jpg
He’s one of “the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created”, according to Blacksmith.
As far as we know, Spottyman/Pimpleman was created by Derek Flack, TS and an unnamed woman who appears in the 2009 Mockumentary and who we believe to be Jenny Weinberger.
There are no two ways about it. One either believes Spottyman/Pimpleman is real or one believes these 3 people lied.
Oh, and Justice for Madeleine FB group Admin, supporters and promoters of both NT and Blacksmith, which side do you take?
DeleteIn case Blacksmith deletes the post above, as he frequently deletes posts from his blog, this is the picture he used:
Deletehttp://fplmorg.ipage.com/uploads/3/4/2/9/3429184/9681699_orig.jpg
What a strange alliance has formed around NT...
ReplyDeleteMichael Green, street musician, was interviewed as a result of TS story.
ReplyDeleteHe was also interviewed by OG as one of 11 people identified by Blacksmith.
The apartment TS grandparents owned was not 5a but a nearby apt as I understand.
But this story started the “could have dogs have alerted to dead grandad’s pjs” theory. Other theory was “dog alerted to grandad’s ashes in the garden”.
Photos I’ve seen of Green, or musician identified as Green don’t look like TS e-fit.
She described man as not Portuguese, so maybe any English men of that age group were questioned, particularly if he had a previous conviction, as Green did.
As promised, we have published what Nick, the anti supporter of NT thinks Eddie alerted to in the backyard:
ReplyDelete"Anon8 Jul 2018, 18:37:00
Don't know as was weak alert...even grime didn't know. And hey ho...no forensics so guess what...YOU don't fucking know. So stop making shit up"
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All those saying, including those in the Justice for Madeleine FB group that Eddie alerted to Maddie's body (or even to a body) in the backyard are just making things up.
Nick,
DeleteNext question: do you think Spottyman is real?
Again, we promise to publish your answer.
Nick catch a grub. Being rude doesn't reinforce your message it only shows your vulnerability in a discussion. The dog alerted in the back garden to the thing that it was trained to alert to I.e. Cadaver scent. Saying it was a weak alert is like saying somebody only might be cooking chips because there is not a strong scent of it. If the scent is there the chips were cooked. Martin Grimes knew exactly what his dogs alerted to
DeleteK
By now you would realise its not what you or anyone thinks...its what can be proved. Nice try at driving a wedge there. Why don't YOU tell us what was signalled in the backyard...then produce the hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court. And stop distracting with spottyman...the point is your baseless accusations against a child and her parents. Accusing someone of child abuse is a serious accusation to make.
ReplyDeleteNick,
DeleteYou already have acknowledged that you don’t know what Eddie alerted to so continuing this discussion is worthless.
A dog trained to alert to the scent of human decomposition in the backyard of the apartment from where Maddie McCann disappeared and as you don’t know to what he alerted to, not only are you’re perfectly satisfied with there being no explanation as you are aggressive with anyone trying to find one.
And you call yourself someone who is here to find out what really happened to Maddie.
However, let us tell you that NT, someone you admire and love to promote, knows what Eddie alerted to:
“What are you on about now? We are not back to your "Site of a burial ground" lies again, are we, because you already admitted those.
Let me try, one last time, to explain this to you
I believe that Eddie, in common with other trained cadaver dogs, alerts to his target scent with a very high level of accuracy. So if his target odour is Human Decomposition, then that is probably what he is alerting to.”
Even though he says that “What I will not do is support or endorse someone making claims which are not supported by the evidence” he does use the “probably” so we think you should ask him to “produce the hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court” that enabled him to use that word.
Unless you think it’s not necessary to ask him as he can give an opinion because of some sort of special rule that applies to him and not to the rest of humanity.
Also we have Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka saying:
“Eddie who was 7 at the time, had worked on over 200 murder cases worldwide and boasts an outstanding record of success. The FBI rated Eddie and Martin Grime as "two of the best in the law enforcement speciality of canine forensics, able to find evidence everyone else missed." Eddie was trained to alert to smell of human cadaverine (the smell given off from a human corpse) pro McCann's love to put about unfounded rumours that these dogs alert to other smells, nonsense, it was the McCanns who blamed the alerts on items such as dirty nappies, seabass etc.
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Eddie alerted to the scent of human cadaverine:
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The veranda of 5a.
In the garden of the apartment.
The flower beds in the back of 5a.
The steps leading down from the patio.
Also, a ‘lighter’ scent of death was found in the flower beds in the back yard, near the foot of the steps leading down from the patio.”
You should ask Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka to “produce the hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court” that allowed them to have said the above.
Martin Grime says:
“In apartment 5A:
(…)
Between 21h49 and 22h00, in the garden adjacent to apartment 5A, accessible from by way of the veranda and steps, the cadaver dog alerted in a garden-bed directly below the veranda.”
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DOGS_INSPECTION.htm
All Ben Thompson, Bohden Chalawaka and Martin Grime have said is outside.
Where airborne molecules that you and NT say that were only emitted when the body was present there and would have been blown away on the same day the body was taken, and is absurd to think they would remain for months there as you adamantly state would be the only possibility for them to be there.
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DeleteAnswering your question very directly, as you know we say the body leaves a residue when in contact with a surface and it was from that emitting source that the airborne molecules that Eddie picked up that day came from. From the residue left there by a body that contacted that surface months earlier.
A residue that Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka say “Think of it as really sticky molecular chewing gum, sticks to anything but it's a residue”. Maybe ask them to “produce the hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court” for them to have said that.
That Eddie’s alert indicates a source of where a human cadaver once was is a “hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court” as it has already stood up in the courts of the Portuguese justice system as a PROVEN FACT.
Maybe you should tell FB groups they needn’t bother discussing theories unless they can “produce the hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court”.
That’s your real message, isn’t it? If there’s no “hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court no forensic evidence” everyone is wasting their time theorising on blogs, forums and twitter.
We know, from unpublished comments that you defend that Maddie’s death was by sedation. Do you have “hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court no forensic evidence” to support that?
If you don’t, please don’t ever have that opinion in public again otherwise you won’t be able to justify it to yourself for having it.
Now to Spottyman. It’s not a distraction. You can only accuse us of abuse, wrongly or rightly, if you believe Spottyman is real.
A question you have not answered and we will wait for you to do that.
If you don’t believe Spottyman is real, then you agree with us that TS lied. And if you believe TS lied then, according to you, you are abusing her.
You know who is, according to you an evil man? Blacksmith. A man who you seem to admire as well. You see, he doesn’t believe Spottyman is real, so he’s saying that TS is lying. You should go have a word with him.
Now, please stop spluttering and not be willing to answer the point raised. If you don’t, it will be so blatant why you won’t.
Answer the question, yes or no, do you believe Spottyman is real?
VERY INTERESTING twitter exchange:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016078012394233862
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18 @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
Madeleine could have run out of the apartment if she was awoken & frightened by somebody raising the shutters...they were quite noisy........#mccann
2:54 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/MancunianMEDlC/status/1016078558870024194
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE @MancunianMEDlC
Replying to @FragrantFrog @comeonengland18 and 11 others
So you were there then ??
2:56 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016079593688784896
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @comeonengland18 and 11 others
Where is "there"?
3:00 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/MancunianMEDlC/status/1016079942763900928
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE @MancunianMEDlC
Replying to @FragrantFrog @comeonengland18 and 11 others
PDL
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016081135695212544
Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @comeonengland18 and 11 others
When?
3:06 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/MancunianMEDlC/status/1016081562780225537
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE @MancunianMEDlC
Replying to @FragrantFrog @comeonengland18 and 11 others
You claim the shutters were really noisy .. How would you know ??
3:08 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016082215405486081
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @comeonengland18 and 11 others
Possibly because I've read the files which include the statements of previous 5A occupants?
3:10 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1016082705908424704
Jules... 🏴 @comeonengland18
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
Yet Tanner who was apparently next door, or Gerry and Jez was outside apartment didn't hear a thing... #McCann
3:12 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016083971074150400
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18 @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
Jane was 3 apartments away & GM & JW were at the back of the apartment by a road. The wind was rustling the trees......#mccann
3:17 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1016090321015451654
Jules... 🏴 @comeonengland18
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
Sorry yes.. Tanner wasn't next door... The wind was rustling the trees..? How would you know there was wind when Gerry was talking to Jez Frog.... #McCann
3:43 pm - 8 Jul 2018
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ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016091311861063680
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18 @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
That's classified top secret highly sensitive information, Jules
3:47 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1016092031003832320
Jules... 🏴 @comeonengland18
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
Why, was you deep undercover... Like deep deep... Winding Textusa up again Froggy...? #McCann
3:49 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016093183921545217
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18 @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
I is not black like Axel. My pond is deep, though. Was I winding up Textusa or was it Blacksmith , that is the question?
3:54 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1016094181054468096
Jules... 🏴 @comeonengland18
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
I hope your pond hasn't evaporated in this heat... And it was obvious who you was winding up... #McCann
3:58 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016095904787550208
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @comeonengland18 @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
Given the number of trolls who pish on me from high, there is no danger of a water shortage. I just threw a little stink bomb in their forum war, that's all. Me - I'm on the side of truth, wherever it leads. #mccann
4:05 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/comeonengland18/status/1016096468774551554
Jules... 🏴 @comeonengland18
Replying to @FragrantFrog @MancunianMEDlC and 11 others
Trolls..? Who might they be Frog...? #McCann
4:07 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/MancunianMEDlC/status/1016098001062957057
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE @MancunianMEDlC
Replying to @FragrantFrog @comeonengland18 and 11 others
There's nothing to debate Stupid Head .. We all know what happened .. Except you ..
4:13 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016098288309809152
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @comeonengland18 and 11 others
Why, were you there? Have you made a statement to OG?
4:14 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/MancunianMEDlC/status/1016099245672357889
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE @MancunianMEDlC
Replying to @FragrantFrog @comeonengland18 and 11 others
Read the book my little frogs legs .. The Truth of the Lie ..
4:18 pm - 8 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016100023547899904
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @comeonengland18 and 11 others
I have' Luckily I didn't have to pay for my copy. Would you say it is more or less truthful than a book by a person who was actually in 5A on 3/5/07?
4:21 pm - 8 Jul 2018
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And a little later, Bale2N (the new Walkercan1000) felt the need to intervene in this conversation and as if by magic, the Frog left it. Interesting. Very interesting.
Textusa could you direct me to your posts that you done after your visit to Luz
ReplyDeleteK
K,
DeleteWe did this post when we visited as team in 2015:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/10/praia-da-luz.html
And from my visit last year we have only done 2 posts:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-ambush.html
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-help-and-tennis.html
We intend to write others about Mrs Fenn’s apartment, the Tapas pool and the toilets at Tapas but as you know we have decided to stop publishing posts, so those will be written when we feel it’s the best time to do so.
An interesting sidenote, the visit last year started at Tapas nearby where I parked my car. But Tapas has very little to offer, so we after we went lunching at Paraiso’s we went on a walk around the OC Reception and the Murat Villa. From there we walked to the Smith sighting walking the path Smithman did from Apartment 5A up to where Kelly’s is.
Then, from there we went to the Millenium via the beach, to show where the sewer entrance is, and spent the rest of the afternoon at the pool there When departing, walked from the Millenium to the car parked near Tapas.
Just to show how small Luz is in reality.
You say "Interesting. Very interesting"
ReplyDeleteWhat is?
Anonymous 10 Jul 2018, 10:06:00,
DeleteBasically, like we told you at 7 Jul 2018, 12:13:00 the interesting, very interesting thing is your interest in us finding the Frog's tweets interesting.
When one knows the answer, one should not ask.
From our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"NT likes to remind his readers that he's a SCIENTIST (his caps) and gets comments commending him for his logical and common sense approach. One would therefore expect a scientist to look at any evidence available and view it in a dispassionate, controlled and objective way. But with all his writing done in red and littered with swear words, he comes across as really angry, in fact furious, especially if one dares to suggest that there was any sort of conspiracy or cover up. Even though the evidence shows us that there was a cover up. Not scientific at all! I wonder why this is? I have noticed though that NT is no longer calling you a tart, a bitch or a cow. At least he is reading your comments and taking note."
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016443032999219200
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @NancyParks8 @comeonengland18 and 11 others
To be fair, she was up very late last night debating with me & the heat is currently making sleep difficult. We don't have aircon as standard.
3:04 pm - 9 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/Bale2N/status/1016443379058642953
Bale2LiverpoolNil @Bale2N
Replying to @FragrantFrog @NancyParks8 and 11 others
No aircon? How uncouth.
3:06 pm - 9 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1016444085899550720
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @Bale2N @NancyParks8 and 11 others
I'm not as high as you are up the pay scale at Shill HQ. 2 fans in the room just don't deal with this heat so, yeah, uncouth is one way of describing me right now.
3:08 pm - 9 Jul 2018
About the FragrantFrog tweets to which we have brought attention to recently, we have received the following INTERESTING replies:
ReplyDeleteTo our reply at 7 Jul 2018, 12:13:00 to the comment put by Anonymous 7 Jul 2018, 09:33:00:
“Anonymous 7 Jul 2018, 12:14:00
Pathetic WUM that you are!”
To our reply at 10 Jul 2018, 15:06:00 to the comment put by Anonymous 10 Jul 2018, 10:06:00:
“Anonymous 10 Jul 2018, 15:21:00
When one talks a load of shite then one should explain!”
And:
“Don’tLoveTextusa 10 Jul 2018, 15:41:00
Lord have mercy, your OCD needs an intervention. Nobody except you takes any heed of what a shill tweets let alone dedicates post after post to it. Please show this blog to your GP.”
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Isn’t it just so INTERESTING the reaction that these tweets are generating? We, for one, think it is.
A lot of FB antis as well as others on twitter are actively engaging in discussion with Frog.
DeleteHas anyone asked the same question of them? Nobody accuses them of being OCD or WUMs.
We inform readers that we have published the following Post-Scriptum:
ReplyDeleteWe are writing this Post-Scriptum because it contains an image we feel it’s important readers see it.
Blacksmith has reacted about us saying that he doesn’t believe that Spottyman is real.
This is what Blacksmith said in his post “The Death of MancCannstein's Monster” published Wednesday, 21 March 2018:
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-death-of-manccannsteins-monster.html
“And then look at this, an internet collation of some of the vile, stinking, filthy images that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created, revelled in and thrust at us month after month, year after year as the truth of the world until Grange finally stopped them diverting the investigation any longer. But that is only their world, the McCann world.”
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Now this is what he says he said when he said what he said above in NT’s blog:
“john blacksmith9 July 2018 at 09:04
Hello Sade. I've read your post, I've looked at Textusa's stuff and I haven't the faintest idea what she's talking about. I don't even know the statement that NT has been posting.
She asks if something called spottiman or whatever exists. How can a fucking drawing exist? The whole point of me pulling those various pictures off google images is that they have a consistency of appearance - sinister, threatening, ugly, childish, dark, menacing - which cannot be reconciled with real human beings but only with low-grade fictional creations. I then compared them with the thoroughly ordinary, tubby chap that the Yard states is a picture of the man Tanner saw.
I don't really feel like having to repeat everything 48 times for the dolts who can't follow an argument but still. The point of the post was that whoever might be accused or convicted of having something to do with the disappearance of the child in the future will not look anything like any of those visual monsters, reflections, by whatever means, of the McCanns' own childish and pathological imaginations, something I'll repeat again here. That's what the so-called "banality of evil" is all about.”
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As can be seen there are 4 people in the picture he has published: Tannerman, Spottyman, Raymond Hewlett and Pig-farmer man.
Tannerman has no facial features, so he cannot be “sinister, threatening, ugly, childish, dark, menacing”.
The Tannerman had the clear objective of drawing attention to what a man supposedly seen carrying a child on the night Maddie disappeared was wearing, so we cannot see where this conflicts with him being “reconciled with real human beings”.
In fact, the latest news is that he is a human being: Dr Totman.
Raymond Hewlett is not a drawing, so completely “reconciled with real human beings” and not a “low-grade fictional creation” and far from being “sinister, threatening” or “childish, dark, menacing”.
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ReplyDeleteThe Pig-farmer man, may not be a handsome man but the drawing is that of a human being. The Telegraph reported him to be Joaquim Agostinho:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576848/New-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-lookalike-found.html
“A Spanish loner who admits he resembles a sketch of a "scruffy" suspect in the search for Madeleine McCann has denied any involvement in the case.
Joaquim Agostinho, who lives in the small seaside town of Altura, a 90-minute drive from Praia da Luz where the four-year-old disappeared, said the Portuguese police have not yet interviewed him.”
But it turns out that he was Joaquim José Marques, as per the Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-510082/Revealed-Madeleine-photofit-man-jailed-raping-British-girl.html
Joaquim José Marques was one of the people heard by the PJ under the instructions of Operation Grange in Faro and was part of a list of people that Blacksmith released, with interesting accuracy, before the hearings took place.
Hewlett, Agostinho and Marques may be considered not handsome and may even be considered unattractive to the elitist eyes of some but they are human beings and certainly not fictional.
That leaves Spottyman of the pictures which Blacksmith considered to be “vile, stinking, filthy”.
However, Sopttyman is NOT a “vile, stinking, filthy image that the McCann camp and its beshitted spokesman created”.
Spottyman is, supposedly, a creation by TS, Derek Flack and an unnamed woman who we believe to be Jenny Weinberger.
To say “She [Textusa] asks if something called spottiman or whatever exists. How can a fucking drawing exist?” and before having said “and I haven't the faintest idea what she's talking about. I don't even know the statement that NT has been posting” is to show an ignorance about the case quite incomprehensible for someone who has written frequently about the case for years.
Blacksmith is not a newcomer to the case.
If he now tries to say that only the poor have been targeted, that may be true for Hewlett and Pig-farmer man.
Dr Totman, the Tannerman/Creche Dad cannot have the word “poor” used to describe him.
No one knows the social status of Spottyman.
Who knows if one of these days a guest, just like Dr Totman has, won’t come forward and say he was the man seen by 3 people gawking at apartment 5A on the other side of the road of the entrance to Tapas, that he was the man seen hawking over the garden wall of that apartment by one of these witnesses and the man standing next to some bins quite far from 5A by another one?
A guest saying that he’s the man that neither the PJ nor Operation Grange have bothered to look for, and Blacksmith considers him to be just a drawing.
Can anyone tell us who is “the thoroughly ordinary, tubby chap that the Yard states is a picture of the man Tanner saw” Blacksmith speaks of?
But what matters is that what Blacksmith has said in his post and what he now says he said simply doesn’t match up.
It’s quite evident that Blacksmith is suffering from “Paddle Stump Syndrome”, or when one is up a dry creek WITH a paddle and is furiously and desperately back-paddling, in desperation one wears out the paddle to a stump without being able to change the direction of the canoe a single degree.
After having sunk his ship next to the Titanic whilst dining Chablis and lobster, he’s now asking the deep-sea fish directions to the Mariana Trench so he can push the wreck there and sink it a little more.
Tannerman was average build
DeleteCrèchedad OG photo was tall and slim
Dr Totman’s photo showed a tall, slim man.
Tubbyman is news to me.
Textusa sorry for going a bit off topic but I visited PDL today and followed the route you had followed. My thoughts like you Is that it's outrageous to suggest that Smithman unintentionally ran into the Smiths. There are many places he could have done to avoid them and even during the day at the height of the summer season there were very few people about that street that leads down to the stairs. I stood quite a while at the top of the road waiting for someone to pass through that stairs alley to see how clear they were. I agree with you he has had to stand in somewhere and ambush them. with all due respect to PDL there appears very little to attract a bunch of high paid doctors even in the summer season let alone in a chilly end of April.
ReplyDeleteK
Which can only mean that Gerry, carrying a child in his arms as described by the Smith family, whom he happened to bump in to WANTED and NEEDED to be seen. The whole point was to paint a picture of abduction. Well done K.
DeleteK,
DeleteThank you for your comment. Have copied it and published on FB.
Pity we didn’t know you were about to visit Luz (understand fully why you didn’t, as one feels like some sort of a hostile ‘secret agent’ there) otherwise we would have called your attention to something which we hope you noticed: how surprisingly steep uphill it is the corner of where Apartment 5A is.
Talking about the famous path Jane Tanner (and supposedly all others outside the Paynes) walked to check the children: up the Rua Prof. Dr. Gentil Martins and around – because it is round – the corner and up into Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva.
Did you notice it?
An interesting take by NT on the Smith sighting:
Delete“Not Textusa10 July 2018 at 10:49
Ah, but Lesley, you have to think yourself into the mind of a swinger. A swinger whose daughter is dead at the hands of a friend ("Don't worry about it mate; could have happened to anyone") and who is now leaping about PdL with the living daughter of one of his chums draped over his shoulder, pausing only to trot up to each of the Smiths in a zig-zag formation, with a hop, a step and a do-si-do, before pausing silently before a chatty Mrs Smith then vanishing off into the night.
Quite what the tapas bogs have to do with the story is anyone's guess, though.”
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Interesting words he chose to use: “A swinger whose daughter is dead at the hands of a friend ("Don't worry about it mate; could have happened to anyone")”
Words that we are sure must have really hit home with some and who we know will be especially pleased in seeing that it was NT writing them, joking with what happened.
Textusa I did notice that it was very steep but TBH I was a bit confused about where tanner and the rest walked. We were challenged as soon as we walked towards 5A by a woman claiming to be the owner and they wouldn't even let us go into the ocean club so we didn't hang about. I used Kelly bar and photos you had to identify the route Smithman took. Even though that road was very deserted (We walked it 3 times and met 2 people in all ) I was very aware that people knew what we were up to and yes we felt like a secret agent lol. My husband takes very little interest in the case and has tended to accept the official version however the smith walk swung it for him. He even came back armed with our photos and read the smith statements. His view as wel as thinking he must have waited on them was that no stranger stealing a child would have taken that route. There was nowhere to go after the smiths. Btw the child's body had to be moved to Murat property I was amazed how close it was to the the apartment and the size of it makes a mockery out of carpenters statement about how he met Murat and Murat statement about sitting in the villa that night totally unaware that a major search operation was going on. The lady who challenged me outside 5a claiming to be the owner waked a few yards further from us and called something over to someone going into the villa. It's that close. We were able to have a look at the tapas over the wall I honestly don't know anyone who would have made that a venue for their evening meal 6 days out of 7 even in the summer never mind a chilly end of April. I would preferred a pizza sitting at the end of the bed
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K,
DeleteThank you.
Have loads to say about your comment but will let your words speak for themselves for now.
Textusa after watching GA in the truth of the lie I now understand the route Tanner and the others took. It is indeed a steep hill and at 9 o clock after a long day of holiday making why would you tackle that steep hill when there was a alternative shorter route
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From NT’s blog:
ReplyDeleteNot Textusa10 July 2018 at 10:52
She's wumming the night away over there with her "Interesting, very interestng" bullshit. Personally, I'd advise everyone to ignore her - she is doing it precisely to invite the question, to which she will reply in her hallmark twattish fashion.
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Anonymous11 July 2018 at 09:40
Alright folks?!
Absolutely no idea what all this nonsense is about from Textusa & the copying/pasting of little Froggys tweets from the hashtag etc..?!
She says it's "interesting", but what the hell is it all about as I haven't a Scooby apart from she's either lost the plot or a deliberate WUM!
Or both! (& probably)
Cheers, Andy
Not Textusa11 July 2018 at 09:50
Hi Andy. She's wumming - she's absolutely desperate for people to ask ''What is?'' so that she can be a twat in return. She seemed to be hinting that Walker and the green one are one-and-the-same. Me, presumably. Daft cow.
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NT,
To be very clear, the “green one” is one person and you/Walker/Bale are another. Completely different people.
It hasn’t crossed our mind ever that “Walker and the green one are one-and-the-same. Me, presumably”.
But you knew that.
Nick,
ReplyDeleteYou’ve said something twice now in your comments.
Once in our blog (our caps):
“Anon8 Jul 2018, 18:37:00
Don't know AS WAS WEAK ALERT...even grime didn't know. And hey ho...no forensics so guess what...YOU don't fucking know. So stop making shit up”
And again in NT’s blog (our caps):
“Nick 8 July 2018 at 12:49
Even trying to drive a wedge with jfm posters saying how i disagree about the signal in the backyard. When will she and any conspiraloon realise it WAS A WEAK SIGNAL that produced nothing. It can't be ssid to be anything as there is no forensics. Fuck me thank god she's not a judge. In the words of frankie boyle...send him down...he looks a bit rapey.”
As you said “but unlike you i don't make claims i do” in this comment also at NT’s:
“Nick8 July 2018 at 14:24
Let us hope her grandchild one day gets power of attourney for her granny...because when that day comes payback will be a bitch. It'll be st bernardines home for the mentally incontinent. You got that textusa? You theories mean jack. They are merely your opinions. Stop asking what i think. As the death of a child is the issue making wild uneducated leaps of logic on faulty premises is ridiculous. I don't know with certainity what happened...but unlike you i don't make claims i do. As you are the one stating opinion as fact the onus is on you to provide evidence to back it up...you know the kind of stuff that will stand up in court. I make no claim to knowing what happened in 5a but i can smell your bullshit across the atlantic.”
And wishing to abide by this now well-known comment of yours:
“Anon8 Jul 2018, 20:45:00
By now you would realise its not what you or anyone thinks...its what can be proved. Nice try at driving a wedge there. Why don't YOU tell us what was signalled in the backyard...then produce the hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court. And stop distracting with spottyman...the point is your baseless accusations against a child and her parents. Accusing someone of child abuse is a serious accusation to make.”
Can you please “produce the hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court” that Eddie gave a “weak alert”/”weak signal” in the backyard, as you state?
About what Nick/Anon thought about to what Eddie had alerted to in the backyard:
ReplyDelete“Anon8 Jul 2018, 18:37:00
Don't know as was weak alert...even grime didn't know. And hey ho...no forensics so guess what...YOU don't fucking know. So stop making shit up”
And then:
“Nick10 July 2018 at 10:40
I'll reply here text...you loon. Yes there was a cadaver there...is there hard forensic evidence it was madeleine? Thats the point ffs. Yes your wasting time you loon. Thanks for bringing that over lesly.”
The difference? In between he was told that NT had said “so if his target odour is Human Decomposition, then that is probably what he is alerting to.”
Talk about integrity.
Nick admits it was a cadaver alert, but was it to M?
ReplyDeleteWho else is he suggesting?
A person buried in the foundations (a Frog suggestion)
A medieval soil sample carrying cadaver odour (NT)
Dead Grandad’s PJs(a poster on UK Justice Forum)
A carpenter’s discarded and rotting finger (Pam Gurney?)
A child is missing from an apartment where a cadaver dog signals to a place behind the sofa, but there could be another cause for the alert!
All attempts so far to explain that away have been risible.
A comment made on NT’s blog not about the case:
ReplyDelete“Anonymous12 July 2018 at 06:19
It's an absolute disgrace, a f#cking disgrace that match last night.
The ref was biased as hell and the tosser who scored the goal for those c#nts should have been sent off for play acting long before that.
Was sat on his arse stopping play everytime we attacked. A f#cking disgrace.
There should be a petition to replay the match to those twats at fifa. Though I suppose they dont give a toss.
They wanted us out anyway.
Corrupt bunch of w#nkers!
And people wonder why we voted to get out of Europe.
Bunch of f#cking foreigners all of em.”
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Shocking comment, dreadful.
It was a fair outcome. England played well first half, Croatia did better in second. Nothing to do with referee.
A young team, they did well and Gareth Southgate has been a good manager and gracious loser.
This is the quality of NT supporters!
Vile.
With supporters like this, England must be proud.
The fact that NT published this comment shows what kind of individual we have opposing us.
I agree appalling Textusa being Irish we have a lot of fun with mock prayers and funny songs. Even our Roy can wind them up something shocking but in reality they are gallant losers. In Lagos last night they sang and danced long after the final whistl. As for Garath Southgate his put down of polititions like Johnston when he tried to force England to withdraw from the World Cup was so admirable. As he rightly said take they need to look at the bigots in their own country before they start talking about Russian bigots. Don't think that the comment represents the majority of English fans but as you said its publication speaks volumes for the blog owner
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From NT’s blog:
Delete“Not Textusa12 July 2018 at 15:51
For the record, as that would appear to be required, publication of a comment does not indicate agreement with the opinions or sentiment expressed. I try to withhold as few comments as possible and normally only withhold those which consist of pointless abuse with no substantive point.”
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The decision to publish is always of the blog owner. To use that excuse when at 15:08 he used that same offensive comment to insult a third party shows his true colours and intent when allowing that comment to go through.
That football comment reminds me of the sardine munchers one... and agree it's telling that NT published it
Delete“Pointless abuse with no substantive point”
DeleteDoesn’t that apply precisely to the football bigot’s comment?
He cant be the only bigot as there are quite a few stories in the papers today and online saying English fans want Croatia thrown out of the competition and England installed in the final instead.
DeleteAnonymous or Bigot fan at 13 Jul 2018, 18:10:00,
DeleteHow similar is your comment to the one you published at NT’s blog:
“Anonymous13 July 2018 at 08:23
Dont know what the problem is. Yes I was a bit cross when I wrote that comment but no need to go overboard like he/ she is and her desciples are next door.
Anyway I only asked for a petition to have the game replayed.
There are lots of articles on the net in the last day or so saying Croatia should be disqualified from the World Cup and England put in the final instead. Lots of people are saying that,so how the holy one next door can call me a bigot I just dont know.”
It’s not us calling you a bigot, you are calling yourself that, in your comment at 13 Jul 2018, 18:10:00
It’s always a pleasure to watch “big boys” grovel.
The point was and is about NT allowing into his blog a highly bigoted comment and finding it amusing and about the kind of people who support him.
Thank you for helping proving the point.
We think that someone should coordinate things better with NT, whom this twitter fiercely supports and enthusiastically promotes as the anti all antis should follow, before publishing things that NT considers to be nonsense:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1017505710605766656
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @LBcorby76 @mccannscamexpos @Millsyj73
Your faux ignorance of the case would almost be believable, but then I see you're associated with child abuse apologist, Maria "NoWayJoMo" Laverty. EVRD and CSI dogs explained. All pro #McCann excuses debunked. http://laidbareblog.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-truth-of-dogs-mccann-case-and-more.html
You're welcome.
1:27 pm - 12 Jul 2018
And the shamelessness continues:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1017529192420962304
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @oxoxoxoxoxo666 @AndyFish19 and 4 others
The "No cadaver found" comment gets me every time. What did the pro #McCann expect, a bark from Eddie followed by a "Fuck me - a cadaver behind the sofa...how did we miss that!" from all in 5A?
3:00 pm - 12 Jul 2018
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Hello… NT has said explicitly that "No cadaver found" and apparently THAT doesn’t get to you. Why?
Sade Anslow12 July 2018 at 15:51
DeleteJust look at the latest next door.
"Hello… NT has said explicitly that "No cadaver found" and apparently THAT doesn’t get to you. Why?"
Ermm...because there was no cadaver found (wondering emoticon)
She's literally taking the piss right? Or still doesn't know what a cadaver is? Either is feasible I suppose.
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We will let reader judge for themselves how anti are some people who claim to be anti REALLY are, especially taking into account the shameless continues:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1017626282606170112
Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @may_shazzy @McCannCaseTweet and 3 others
Thank you, Shazzy. I agree, when they're trained and handled correctly, as Eddie and Keela were, then they deliver amazing results - it's a pity some humans can't do the same.
9:26 pm - 12 Jul 2018
By the way and to be clear, we concur FULLY with all 3 tweets about the dogs from TheBunnyReturns but don’t support or promote NT as TheBunnyReturns does.
It seems obvious that Ben T is saying the same thing about the dogs as Textusa blog but for some reason, he supported the NT blog which contradicts both.
DeleteOne point to clear is: does alert to cadaver odour point to M or some other explanation? I go for it pointing to M and a physical point where a cadaver made contact being the source of the odour.
I thought that was also what Ben believed after reading the twittlonger which synonymph was involved with.
NT seems to believe that there are other explanations for various alerts, rather than agreeing that the probability of alerts being related to M is high.
It would help me to understand if both the points of agreement and disagreement between Ben and NT could be made clear, as the present situation between them lacks any clarity and consistency.
Nick/Anon, the last time we were told had already commented twice at NT's after we have challenged him. At 12 July 2018 at 11:09 and 12 July 2018 at 17:42 (Pacific time.
ReplyDeleteAnother one who demands too much but delivers too little.
A hint to help you out Nick, there is someone who does say that Eddie's signal was weak. We just want you to find it and then say if it constitutes “hard forensic evidence that would stand up in court” as you claim all your statements are.
On July 1st, NT’s Book Review was promoted on FB Justice for Madeleine.
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/JusticeForMadeleine/permalink/1774482755981124/
This is what Nick/Anon commented on that post:
“His [NT] dissections of the book Sade Anslow are fantastic. I have never read the book...how on earth did she get away with it? Its pathetic. Reading these passages...how on earth is she still at liberty?”
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On July 1st this year, Anon/Nick had never read Kate McCann’s book. Isn’t that so interesting?
https://mobile.twitter.com/fragrantfrog/status/1004772004963278848
ReplyDeleteWhy are these people engaging with Frog?
To challenge the statement Frog makes? No, they are just obsessives and OCD sufferers according to NT.
We must only discuss the personality flaws of the Mcs and not stray beyond the parameters permitted by NT.
This is NT’s gang mission.
K,
ReplyDeleteWe ask you to be patient as we will reply to your comment as soon as we think best. From your comment we can see you've understood the importance of the steepness. A question that we have waiting to be asked for years on the internet but "strangely" no one has remembered to ask.
For now we are enjoying watching a crowd kicking a football with no air around the yard and pretending it's a match!
Comment we have received on FB:
ReplyDelete"Maureen Hopkin Why oh why. In ALL the years since M 'disappeared', have I never read all the Textusa stuff. I've read files, statements, reports, been on a coupe of dubious groups, BUT been on good groups,(til you question their admin. lol). I've got friends in the States (following), I must have read every scrap, every tv interview, every blog, every fb bit, tho NOT Twitter. Every 'friend I have 'follows'. I don't wanna put Tx into any bad position, but check me out. i'm not a sock, so can I get Textusa from a to b, in their research n reading form. backlog, opinions, blah de blah. Will await you checking my profile. Good luck."
My reply:
"Textusa Maureen Hopkin, there has been, and still is, a huge effort to sideline us.
But then when understands that most are but people who cheer on relentlessly the lynching mob to demand the blood of the Mcs. And as they know the establishment will never hang the Mcs from the nearest oak, they can perpetuate their outrage against the horrific denial of justice for poor little Maddie.
We have called their bluff years ago when we were the first to show that the hoax involved others in Luz outside the T9.
Then we committed a capital sin: we took the side of the truth, which is boring and involves friends of friends (if not friends or even those there) of those in Luz, instead of taking the side lynching mob thirsty for Mc blood.
No need to check profiles. :) A friend of truth is always a friend.
Going to copy your comment to the blog. "
A reply to this on FB:
Delete"Linda Wilson The Macs shouldn't be swinging alone, the ones who put the ball in motion need outing with them because without them pulling the strings this would have been over and done with eleven years ago. Madeleine should be allowed to rest in peace and the T9 kids needs to be able to wash their hands where their parents are concerned, they shouldn't have to carry this burden of lies around with them all their lives."
This might be of your interest:
ReplyDeletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/strackers74/status/1018592138257367042
From our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete" I see NT is at it again with his latest post, trying to show how "anti" he is whilst reinforcing and giving credence to the abduction story. And of course anyone who doesn't believe him is a lunatic, or if it's a woman who doesn't believe him then obviously she's a mad bint."
Textusa16 Jul 2018, 16:47:00
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1018878610952732672
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @Meadowuk @zodiaczephyr and 2 others
There lies the question...was Madeleine and twins left alone...or was NEGLECT the ALIBI? #mccann
8:22 am - 16 Jul 2018
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We’re just watching the game. Like nannies watching from the corner of their eyes how the babies behave when they don’t have the grown-ups around.
It’s been VERY interesting, and we will continue to watch for now.
BUT, there sometimes is a gem that one cannot let it fly by. This tweet, for example, is such a case. We would really, REALLY, REALLY (pity this doesn’t allow bigger font), love to hear the thoughts of the NT gang starting with The Bunny Returns, about it.
Not that we are expecting any reply. There have been so many questions blatantly left answered, this one will be one more.
And before they think we are defying, daring, pressuring them, we’re not. We already know the answers.
To the “babies”, please don’t allow these words to influence you, please do continue as you were.
Good NEWS! Finally it’s official!
ReplyDeleteThe bilateral relationship between the Not Textusa (NT) blog and the Justice for Madeleine FB Group is now official. From NT’s blog:
“Monday, 16 July 2018
Message
Quick message with respect to the post on the Justice for Madeleine
Ben, I think I can help with this. I'll post up a list of dates later, but supposedly the decision to return was made on the 28th August, having been discussed for some time.”
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The Not Textusa blog was born 5 years on Jun 8, 2013.
The only person promoting it was a well-known pro “SafariSara”. She did it 4 times on the following dates:
https://twitter.com/SafariSara/status/381517928312475648
SafariSara 🌎 🇪🇺 #FBPE @SafariSara
@TrulyJudy73 njbennett GaeMar01 LOL Yep, a total fruit cake of monumental proportions http://nottextusa.blogspot.com.es/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=35 … #McCann
1:38 pm - 21 Sep 2013
https://twitter.com/SafariSara/status/578195006000906240
SafariSara 🌎 🇪🇺 #FBPE @SafariSara
LOL Since the muppets of Stupidistan believe in every single blog is the TROOF. They should try this one http://nottextusa.blogspot.com #mccann
7:03 am - 18 Mar 2015
https://twitter.com/SafariSara/status/597365052732243968
SafariSara 🌎 🇪🇺 #FBPE @SafariSara
Mad Woman with with blog laughed at here http://nottextusa.blogspot.com.es/ - with good reason, I hasten to add LOL #mccann
4:38 am - 10 May 2015
https://twitter.com/SafariSara/status/670481444209324032
SafariSara 🌎 🇪🇺 #FBPE @SafariSara
Replying to @Val__34
@Val__34 umweltbuerger LePlanRex Haha - The obvious insanity may be a factor. See http://www.nottextusa.blogspot.com - Hilarious stuff #McCann
9:56 pm - 27 Nov 2015
Suddenly, on May this year, someone decided to give Not Textusa the “2018 Anti of the Year” award and he started to be profusely promoted:
On 31 May 2018:
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1002292338163699713
On 1 Jun 2018:
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1002681954658078721
On 2 Jun 2018:
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1003052163038314496
On 3 Jun 2018:
https://twitter.com/AndyFish19/status/1003189799279308800
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1003272105641771008
https://twitter.com/K9Truth/status/1003287737141809154
https://twitter.com/lyndanashelle/status/1003423301115482112
On 6 Jun 2018:
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1004440783720763397
On 8 Jun 2018:
https://twitter.com/K9Truth/status/1005026594925228032
https://twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/1005056052629516288
On 14 Jun 2018:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1007201506272202753
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1007517664653266944
On 19 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/K9Truth/status/1009213614153183233
On 20 Jun 2018:
https://twitter.com/zodiaczephyr/status/1009339737046507520
https://twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/1009366463789101056
https://twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/1009369415438274560
On 24 Jun 2018
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1010795092884508673
On 5 Jul 2018:
https://twitter.com/AndyFish19/status/1014865702145220610
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1014997159601635334
On 6 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1015330682120364033
On 15 Jul 2018:
https://twitter.com/K9Truth/status/1018398875961511937
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1018633224908623872
We remind people that SadeElisha86, TheBunnyReturns and PeritaRisus are admins at Justice for Madeleine FB group.
The same group that has as a prominent member Nick/Anon, a demander but a true “Verdi” when it comes to answering.
You’re STILL falling for the Justice for Madeleine FB scam?
https://mobile.twitter.com/injaeneous/status/531929976954978307
Deleteinjaeneous@injaeneous
Where did the original Safari Sara go? (Sara Wearden) @StoppsJason #mccann
10:02 PM · Nov 10, 2014
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Now do read the following twitter exchange. Oh, the irony!
https://mobile.twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/575032423756529664
P_R #FBPE #NHSLove@PeritaRisus
Who ya gonna call? (link: https://twitter.com/weardeparanorm) twitter.com/weardeparanorm #mccann
8:36 PM · Mar 9, 2015
https://mobile.twitter.com/JillyCL/status/575208665919152128
JillyCL @JillyCL
Replying to @PeritaRisus
@Papa___Rico #McCann Hmm, Edinburgh...is that really her? Is she Cankles? (link: http://www.scotsman.com/news/ghost-hunting-in-edinburgh-s-south-bridge-vaults-1-474265) scotsman.com/news/ghost-hun…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_uNO7-W8AAFDcN?format=jpg
8:16 am · 10 Mar 2015
[Picture attached says “We were told that this room had once been used by the witches who still practise today in a specially fitted-out room in the vaults”]
https://mobile.twitter.com/PeritaRisus/status/575218620353093632
P_R #FBPE #NHSLove@PeritaRisus
Replying to @JillyCL
@JillyCL Great find Jilly! Shows the total crap Sara believes in. No wonder the immaculate #mccann abduction is a doozy for loons like her.
8:56 am · 10 Mar 2015
https://mobile.twitter.com/NettyCox/status/575233676298076160
NettyCox@NettyCox
Replying to @PeritaRisus
@Papa___Rico @JillyCL Sara Weardon back in 2007 "being given direction from the McCanns campaign manager" #mccann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_uj2lhWcAAyrPo?format=jpg
9:56 am · 10 Mar 2015
[Picture attached says:
Re: Madeleine McCann/Greece
Reply #1 -Jul 14th, 2007, 9:24am
Hello friends,
My name is Sara Wearden and I am a member of a growing voluntary organisation called Helping to Find Madeleine. Our numbers are continuing to grow, well over two hundred now from all over the UK, so much so that we have been alligned with the official campaign and are being given direction by the McCanns campaign manager. We have been assigned various countries to target with an email campaign to keep little Maddy's profile high. As you may have noticed the campaign machine continues to find ways to keep the story in the media but this will not go on forever. But until she is found and returned safely to her family we cannot allow ourselves to forget her. Or indeed the other children who go missing around europe in similar circumstances. Although Madeleine is of course our priority at present, we also…]
And guess with who SafariSara likes to talk to:
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SafariSara #FBPE@SafariSara
Replying to @walkercan1000
@walkercan1000 abuseofpower No worries! SY knows ALL about Dicky Hall & the alien in the coal cellar!! ROFL #McCann
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DeleteAnonymous 17 Jul 2018, 17:13:00,
DeleteMessage received and understood but deleted your comment because we felt it better that things didn’t get more personal than they already were.
However, if you could, if you would of course, expand on your last statement about promises made in a "DO NOT PUBLISH" comment, we would be grateful.
From our "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"I see John Blacksmith is praising NT to the hilt and claiming that his arguments are based in reality. What reality? I mean, NT believes that Madeleine's coloboma is genuine, when you can see just by looking at the photos that it's been photoshopped in - where's the reality in that?"
"you can see just by looking at the photos that it (the coloboma)has been photoshopped in"
ReplyDeleteI looked at the photos, I looked again and again without passing through my mind that it had been photoshopped.
I never thought as well that one would notice it easily, unless one got so close to the child that paedophilia would be suspected.
A marketing ploy, yes, but with some reality underneath.
The word has never been uttered by the Mcs. There is no mention in K’s book.
DeleteKate dismissed it as a “fleck in the eye” on Piers Morgan show. Many people have them and they aren’t immediately obvious.
If M did have a coloboma, she would have needed sunglasses in bright sunshine.
I’ve sat opposite somebody with a coloboma and it’s very noticeable, believe me! It was hard not to stare because it literally catches your attention.
M did not have a coloboma, in my opinion
MMC was described as having blue-green eyes, the right with a brown spot. Whatever the colour, MMC's eyes weren't clear, attracting attention. Can a black spot be something else than a coloboma, I don't know.
DeleteMMC was described also as "very slim", according to the pictures this detail never struck me.
From our “FB Anon”:
Delete“Re the coloboma: Lesly Finn has posted a comment on NT and says the coloboma was mentioned in her passport and provides a link to a document from the McCann Files. This document isn't Madeleine Mccann's passport, rather a list of details to be passed to the media. It mentions a brown spot in the retina. Nothing regarding a coloboma was in her passport as distinguishing marks are no longer included in British Passports, and weren't in 2007. Then we have this exchange when the Mccanns were interviewed by Piers Morgan:
"MORGAN: Madeleine had a very distinctive eye pattern, didn't she? Tell me about that, Kate, in case people see somebody they think may be Madeleine. Tell me about her eye.
K. MCCANN: If I'm honest, we haven't put too much emphasis on her eye, because I think you have to be very close to her to see it. But her eyes are slightly different colors, and one of them has this brown fleck in it. But you do notice, particularly on photographs, but –
MORGAN: Slightly distinctive eye colors and a little fleck.
MORGAN: And do you know if that would be still there if she's now eight years old?
G. MCCANN: Certainly believe it wouldn't have changed. I think there's been a pattern to be still there. That it's -- the technical term is coloboma, where there's a defect in the iris. I don't think it is actually. I think it's actually an additional bit of color. She certainly had no visual problems."
Of course I can't say for sure whether Madeleine McCann had a coloboma or not, but in my opinion, every photo of her eyes looks odd. Here are 2 links to two newspaper articles containing photos that I don't believe are genuine and un-photoshopped
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-case-theories-parents-kate-gerry-latest-developments-new-leads-evidence-media-a7712196.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/madeleine-mccann-father-says-unfair-to-criticise-millions-spent-investigation_uk_5904b202e4b05c39767fe744?guccounter=1”
Team MC attempted to build an heroïn. All heroes have a distinctive mark, as Harry Potter has one on his forehead. How a 3 years old could be delighted reading HP's adventures is mysterious unless the child is exceptionnal. How a 3 years old could enjoy playing tennis is mysterious, unless the child is "so special". How a 3 years old adored watching "Dr Who" on TV is myterious, unless the child is a hero.
DeleteAnother VERY INTERESTING tweet from the Frog:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1019337206886993920
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @AlleyCat666x @nicktownsend12 and 4 others
No-one would be looking for Madeleine, Kate would be going to jail, Gerry would be charged as an accessory, the twins would be taken away, the family's life & name would be forever ruined...have I missed anything out?
2:45 pm - 17 Jul 2018
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Frog,
Aren’t you missing Payne? And also not missing the conductors of the “Orchestra of the Hoax”?
Accomplices : Mark Warner + Ocean Club + Guests + ex-pats + UK's government + + +
DeleteUnpublished Lesly Frances Finn at 10:43 pm,
ReplyDeleteBy siding with NT you have lost all rights to publish anything in our blog.
We will tell you what I told Ben Thompson when he thought he could just waltz in as the best pal in my PM on FB after telling the readers of the Justice for Madeleine group that to read us was a total waste of time: whatever you have to say does not interest us. Be about the case, be about the weather, be about whatever.
Note, we're not giving any opinion about the content of your unpublished comment and to be clear, we believe it to be correct, we simply don’t care.
Like we didn’t care that it was correct what Ben Thompson was trying to tell us (that Orlov was not NT) when he barged arrogantly into my PM under some sort of assumption that he was entitled to abuse and the abused was supposedly to feel privileged to have been abused by him.
It seems that hanging around NT gives people that assumption as it seems you think you are under it as well.
This is not personal, we just don’t deal well with hypocrisy.
This is not a game. This is about the justice and respect denied to the memory of a dead little girl and to the suffering that the Amaral family was made to go through.
Each person who blogs, posts or comments in the various internet fora must evaluate how much s/he is responsible for those denials and that suffering.
You made a choice which was yours to make and which we totally respect. Now live with the consequences of that choice and go whine on NT's lap.
Goodbye.
PS - If you are to reprimand people for misspelling your name as we have seen you do in NT's blog, do reprimand all those who do and that includes NT. You're not that many that he can't memorise correctly all your names.
"DO NOT PUBLISH" Anonymous at 19 May 09:34:00
ReplyDeleteThank you for that information, very interesting and well spotted! Will do what we can to pass this to the person in question as requested with the caveats asked. Thank you.
"DO NOT PUBLISH" Anonymous at 19 May 09:34:00,
DeleteInform you that we have now passed on the information to the person in question, exactly the way you requested.
Once again, thank you!
"DO NOT PUBLISH" Anonymous at 19 May 09:34:00,
DeleteThe person has replied and we think it would be of interest to you.
We suggest 2 options:
- if you don't mind we knowing who you are, please contact me via FB PM;
- if you prefer, please send us an e-mail address via a "DO NOT PUBLISH" comment.
Thank you, once again.
Unpublished Anonymous at 21 Jul 2018 at 10:40:00,
DeleteAlthough you did not put "do not publish" in your comment we assumed that it was the spirit of your comment, so we're not publishing it.
Fully understand your position, we thank you and the person we passed the info to also thanks you.
Do not publish identified reader,
ReplyDeleteWe like to follow the Occam's razor principle:
"Occam's razor (also Ockham's razor or Ocham's razor; Latin: lex parsimoniae "law of parsimony") is the problem-solving principle that the simplest solution tends to be the right one. When presented with competing hypotheses to solve a problem, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions. The idea is attributed to William of Ockham (c. 1287–1347), who was an English Franciscan friar, scholastic philosopher, and theologian."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
The complexity of Maddie's case lies with the number of people involved, stakeholders, those helping the stakeholders and those ordered to help the stakeholders.
Factually, what happened to Maddie we believe to have been very simple as we have explained more than once.
However, it's said that a lie needs 10 other lies to cover it up. Each one of these will then need another 10 and so on. This means a geometric progression of lies of enormous proportions.
Multiply all this by the number of people involved and you get the idea of where the complexity lies.
The good side of this? The impossibility to sustain such a hoax as it's impossible to guarantee a single, cohesive and coherent version of events based on so many inventions.
Although we haven’t put a post about it, this is the time of the year we enjoy our Summer Break. Usually at this time of the year the blog is practically inactive.
ReplyDeleteIt hasn’t been the case this year, although we haven’t put up posts, we have not stopped writing and fighting the war on multiple fronts.
We have issues that we still have to cover, one of them is to continue to show how in case the McCanns were to be questioned by Operation Grange without being under the request of the Portuguese authorities, it would mean that the case would no longer be able to be prosecuted in Portugal. As we don’t believe that the case will ever be prosecuted in the UK due to the negative international consequences of that happening, then Grange on their own questioning the McCanns would in practical terms end the case.
We have already shown incontrovertible significant differences between being questioned under caution, as it happens in the UK, with being heard as an arguido in Portugal.
We still have more to say about this “under caution” v “arguido” debate. However, as we have reasons to believe that in September/October there will probably be a new offensive on the subject, we will continue the debate then. To refresh people’s minds on what we have already said and say what there is left to be said when it’s the most opportune time to say it.
However, we would like to speak today about the European Investigation Order (EIO).
It was implemented in the UK 31/7/2017 and in Portugal 22/8/2017.
It’s an EU legal “Mutual Recognition” instrument which speeds up assistance between countries which are signatories. UK has opted into the EIO irrespective of the fact it has exercised its right to leave the EU.
It replaces International Letters of Request (LORs) for EU member states (except Ireland and Denmark) for investigators who need to look overseas to seize evidence, find witnesses or suspects or seek assistance. It is likely to become a mainstream policing tool.
It moves away from requests for assistance, to an order for specified measures to be undertaken.
There are time limits for the process.
Suspect interviews, banking evidence, search of premises and communication data will be covered, as well as transfer of information already in the possession of police in a country. The police can ask for anything that can legally be done in their own country.
Police forces are allowed presence and participation in another country but do not have direct law enforcement powers of arrest, search or seizure. We’re not sure what other powers “visiting” police officers would have outside their own country.
If Portuguese officers wanted to investigate an offence, they could require officers in UK to let them participate directly in the investigation (and vice versa). Previously the U.K. were able to refuse this, presently, it can’t.
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ReplyDeleteSome measures are not available to the UK because its domestic law doesn’t allow it (an example is use of interception material in evidence).
EIO can be issued based on “Dual Criminality” – meaning the offence exists in both issuing and executing countries (criminal defamation is an offence in Portugal, Holocaust denial is a criminal offence in Germany as examples of different laws which don’t apply in UK).
Offences should be punishable by a minimum of 3 years. It can be used for, amongst a number of others, the following offences - sexual exploitation of children and child pornography, fraud, murder, and grievous bodily harm.
UK law enforcement should always try to maintain police co-operation through existing routes as opposed to the EIO. The interview of a willing witness could be done through co-operation in most countries, although some countries may require an EIO to undertake the requested activity.
If a competent authority requires assistance, the UK is obliged to provide it, unless one of limited grounds for refusal exists. There are clear time limits for compliance. Failure to comply is unlawful.
As the EIO is authorised by the issuing country, the executing country recognises it as being duly authorised. There is one standard template.
An EIO should not compromise any domestic operation which may be underway.
The issuing country can request how the investigative measure is carried out- how it needs to be done to be admissible in the law of that country. The request can be for police officers to be present during the execution of the EIO on relevant cases.
We don’t know if OG or Portugal have or intend to make use of the opportunities offered by the EIO.
We are not qualified to provide any legal commentary but leave readers to come to their own conclusions.
This is our summary of what we think is the EIO. Anybody who is legally qualified to do so is welcome to offer any corrections.
From our FB page:
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Tracy Mathews: Hi Textusa 😊 .. Thank you for that information, I wasn’t aware of it. But since it’s been in place for a year now would you think that something would have been done regarding the McCann’s by now? I’m sure we don’t know everything that’s going on behind the scenes but surely we would have caught wind of something by now .. I have to say in my opinion Operation Grange is a complete sham designed solely to make the McCann’s look innocent. Too many powerful people are involved in this case to let the truth come out, though we can only hope. 🙏🏼
Maria Santos: Tracy Mathews, the case is political. So literally solved with a simple snap of fingers. But the right fingers do need to snap.
We're only showing the legal tools available. The EIO will speed things up if both countries agree to go for the truth. However, in Maddie's case it will only be used if there's a green light.
Operation Grange is not a sham. It simply is not a police operation but a political one. Police waiting for politicians to tell it to be police but only when politicians say they can. It is the ONLY tool we have to pursue the truth and so it's VITAL that it's not archived no matter how much it's dissed.
It certainly is not a PR campaign for the Mcs. If it was, it would have been closed a long time ago.
Tracy Mathews: Yes, now you put it like that I do understand what you mean. 😊
... But just how long can it be continued to be funded before that someone does decide to snap their fingers? Every six months the McCann’s crawl out from the safety of their woodwork to praise more funding being given to Operation Grange to continue the search for Madeleine & her so called abductors .. If someone is to snap their fingers an awful lot of people are going to brought down with the McCann’s .. a certain spin doctor comes to mind.
What do you think about my theory that justice is waiting for the twins to reach an age whereby they cannot be put into the care system should charges be brought?
Maria Santos: Tracy Matthews, again another misconception.
OG's funding is the payment of the wages of the officers allocated to it, independent of what they do.
Means that they are doing other police work but their wages comes from a fund called "Operation Grange".
When Operation Grange closes, hopefully by outing the truth, the taxpayer's money will continue to spent on the wages of those same officers.
Funding Operation Grange is a totally false question and only brought up to stir up the anger of the public by giving the impression the state is wasting money with the McCanns. It's not, that money will always have been spent and will continue to be spent after Grange.
Maria Santos: Justice has nothing to do with the twins. The decision lies at the political level.
Tracy Mathews: Maria, so do you think that the McCann’s are aware of this? That the rug could be pulled at some point?
Tracy Mathews: Maria, thanks I can explain to others now who complain about it. 😊 .. and thank you for taking out the time to explain things to me. X
Maria Santos: Tracy Mathews, the McCanns are fully aware. As are those above them in the food chain. Those who are arm wrestling with the government and have more than enough money to pay many to play both the roles of pro and anti on the internet.
The pros to play confront the antis, who in turn have the mission to keep things under certain parameters (basically anything other than swinging will do) after being validated as antis after being "targeted" by the pros.
Lesley Whyte:
Maria, indeed. The ‘funding’ allocated to Grange. And the salaries for the cops that supposedly make up Grange is one and the same thing. Grange exists on paper only. It’s awfully strange that the funding and the salaries are practically identical. I don’t know how those pulling the strings think the public won’t notice these things. I suppose though, that’s politics!
“Anyone who is legally qualified to do so is welcome to offer any corrections “
ReplyDeleteBut you’re not legally qualified, so surely anyone can correct you?
Insane’s reply to the EIO comment in a post in his blog:
Delete“[quoting our blog] This is our summary of what we think is the EIO. Anybody who is legally qualified to do so is welcome to offer any corrections. [end of quote]
Ah - but not anyone else, eh?
Funnily enough, someone tried, didn't they? I already know because when you didn't publish their post, they sent it to me. All they asked was why you would only accept correction from a legally qualified person, when you have no such qualification yourself.
I think we know why, don't we?
The EIO is an updated process and will make no difference whatsoever to this case. Happy to help.”
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The only comment we have received (and we have checked our spam box) is the one:
“Anonymous20 Jul 2018, 17:18:00
“Anyone who is legally qualified to do so is welcome to offer any corrections “
But you’re not legally qualified, so surely anyone can correct you?”
To be clear, we have withheld this comment, and have only published now. It has only NOW become public together with this comment.
The reason we didn’t publish that comment was because we thought to be pathetic, sad and juvenile. We hesitated in publishing it just to show how NT is constantly watching us but it was so, so miserable that we decided against publishing it. Avoid polluting the blog. Added nothing and was NT at his most childish.
But he decided to do a post about it. And now we are supposed to believe that an anonymous submitted a comment to us – so not minding in the least that it would become public – supposedly correcting us and which we didn’t, takes it over to NT and suddenly becomes coy and complains but asks not to be published there?
The comment was so ridiculous that even NT thought it best not to be made public.
As if NT having the chance of rubbing it in our face an incorrection from us he would have a sudden attack of decency and would decide completely out of character to spare us from a humiliation. Yes, and we’re also to believe that chicken have teeth,
NT, you either publish that comment that you say have in your possession or once again confirm that you are nothing but a liar on a mission to hide the truth about what happened to Maddie.
About what we said about the EIO, anyone can summarise by reading the documents and combining info from different sources but we are fully aware the application of this legislation will be subject to legal interpretation.
Lawyers Kingsley Napley have explained the EIO on their online site and have considered some of the implications. Exemptions will probably be a potential area for challenges.
If there are any errors of fact, that can be demonstrated by referring to the documents written on the EIO, then anyone can comment, not necessarily a legal expert.
But nobody can provide a legal interpretation unless they are qualified, just as NT can’t, unless he has other qualifications in addition to his scientific knowledge.
Interesting that the NT, the new anti who everyone is to revere thinks that an EU legal “Mutual Recognition” instrument which speeds up assistance between countries which are signatories “will make no difference whatsoever” to a case that has ongoing investigations in 2 countries which are… signatories to the EIO.
Fascinating is not NT pretend to be an anti. Fascinating is the self-humiliation so many are subjecting themselves to whenever he (or others for him do that) states that he is an anti and they clap like seals begging for sardines to be thrown to them.
And NT has replied:
Delete“As for this:
[quoting our blog]"NT, you either publish that comment that you say have in your possession or once again confirm that you are nothing but a liar on a mission to hide the truth about what happened to Maddie." [end of quote]
..... I think you will find that I am not in the habit of responding to demands from deranged fucknuggets to publish "not for publication" posts”
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So according to NT, someone out there is willing to make their opinion correcting us made public in our blog but even though s/he goes whining to NT doesn’t want his/her opinion made public in NT’s blog. Speaks very little of NT, doesn’t it?
Either that or NT is a liar.
Hmmmm… we’re divided.
How does NT know if OG or Portugal have or haven’t used the EIO legislation? The difference now for Portugal is they could make an application which couldn’t be refused unless the U.K. applied for exemption.
DeleteNational Security is one of the grounds for exemption.
I’m not a legal expert - I just read up on the subject and found the exemptions which can apply.
Maybe Blacksmith would know as he once said he had police contacts
Green light !? Who will give it ?
ReplyDeleteWho will open first the "Maddie's Pandora Box"?
Who has interests in (not)doing this ?
AGENDA :
BREXIT : March 2019.
European élections : 2019.
BORIS JOHNSON 15 july 2018: "People around the world believe passionately in Britain. It's time we shared their confidence."!!???
I believe passionately that I am not a "people around the world",I am not a group, I am an individual citizen who can vote passionately for democracy.
Pushing the law(s) forward.
It is all I can do.
Also read passionately enlightning TEXTUSA's posts and comments.
NotTextusa is really, really not Textusa.
ReplyDeleteFrom NT’s blog:
ReplyDelete“Pseudo Nym19 July 2018 at 05:20
Afternoon all. I will return to this after work when I'll show just how Textusa has littered her comment to Lesly, with several blatant lies.”
Mr Ben Thompson, please produce the lies we have said in our comment about Lesly.
To remind readers, this is what we said concerning you: “We will tell you [Lesly Frances Finn] what I told Ben Thompson when he thought he could just waltz in as the best pal in my PM on FB after telling the readers of the Justice for Madeleine group that to read us was a total waste of time: whatever you [Lesly Frances Finn] have to say does not interest us. Be about the case, be about the weather, be about whatever.
(…)
Like we didn’t care that it was correct what Ben Thompson was trying to tell us (that Orlov was not NT) when he barged arrogantly into my PM under some sort of assumption that he was entitled to abuse and the abused was supposedly to feel privileged to have been abused by him.”
Please list what lies we have said above.
Although everyone by now knows that one of the many qualities that you share with Mr Bennett is the shamelessness to reveal publicly information that was shared with you privately, we hereby allow you to share publicly any part of any private conversation where I have said that I didn’t believe you when you said that Orlov was not NT.”
The failure to do so, will only further confirm the fraud you are.
And also this:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1021034568445452290
“Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @JillyCL @The_Truth_II
Absolutely. If Robert Murat had any untoward involvement in this case, he would have thrown the #McCann s and some of the T7, under the bus. I hope he sues Bennett and Textusa next, for inventing evidence to frame him.
7:09 am - 22 Jul 2018”
Mr Ben Thompson please produce the “invented evidence” we have produced that would allow Mr Murat.
The failure to do so, will again only further confirm the fraud you are.
We have noted that like NT you also try to associate us with Mr Bennett.
Mr Ben Thompson has replied on Twitter:
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Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Message for Textusa:
Dear Mr Swingstein, you've been told time and time again, that I won't comment on your ridiculously cringeworthy blog, and that if you wish to discuss anything, do so on an open platform where you and Carla 'FKN' Spade don't control what's published.
2:07 pm - 22 Jul 2018
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Mr Ben Thompson,
It didn’t cross our mind that you would respond in our blog. We expected for you to answer exactly in the same platforms you made the statements in: Twitter and NT’s blog.
In neither we control anything. You are absolutely free to say whatever you like.
And it’s not a debate. It’s simply you backing up the statements you made. Making up the list of lies you say we said in the “Lesly comment” and say what we have said about Mr Murat that would allow him to sue us.
The fact that you replied means that you read us, so as we said, if you fail to do it, you are simply confirming what you are.
Best regards.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1021028605051228160
ReplyDeleteBugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @JillyCL @The_Truth_II
Interesting to note the paper states that Robert Murat was cleared.
6:46 am - 22 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/JillyCL/status/1021032621319438336
JillyCL ☮️ @JillyCL
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @The_Truth_II
Yep, Robert Murat was cleared way back in 2007. The PJ apologised to him and told him they know he had nothing to do with Maddie's 'diappearance. Robert & Michaela Murat are witnesses. #McCann
7:02 am - 22 Jul 2018
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JillyCL,
Please provide the evidence supporting this statement from you: “The PJ apologised to him and told him they know he had nothing to do with Maddie's 'diappearance”
No one was cleared with the archival of the process. The Portuguese Justice Court is very clear on that. Yes, it only speaks of the McCanns because only the McCanns appealed but the legal principle applies to all arguidos of the process, and that means it applies to Robert Murat.
Robert Murat, like the McCanns was not cleared. Does that make him guilty? No, like with the McCanns it doesn’t.
We would also like to know how does JillyCL know under what legal status were the Murats (Robert and Michaela) when they were heard by the PJ under request of Operation Grange.
1) The groupe of Nine and Jeremy W were requested to participate in a reconstitution and refused to do it, in spite of knowing it was crucial for the investigation just to go on.
DeleteRobert M wasn't requested, so he can't be hold responsible for the shelving of the case.
2) In no place of the filing order does the PGR allude, concerning Robert M, to what he does concerning the MCs : "having lost the chance to prove their innocence".
3) The UK dogs didn't alert to anything associated to RM.
4) None of the family S'members found that Smithman could be RM.
I don't know whether the PJ apologised, but they should have, because they were manipulated into making RM an arguido.
It would be absurd to considerate the situation of RM "not being cleared" as something else than a technicality. He just had nothing to do with MMC. The MCs had.
Anne Guedes,
Delete“I don't know whether the PJ apologised, but they should have, because they were manipulated into making RM an arguido.”
Quoting ourselves from our post “All the world is a stage (1/3”:
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/02/all-worlds-stage.html
“On the morning of May 11, convinced that he’s chasing a ghost, he [Sr Amaral] realises that they have searched a lot of properties in a very short period of time. He thinks that the privately owned villas have garden and pools and may have holes not detectable in a hasty search.
It’s with this thought in mind that he heads, unexpectedly, for Luz on that morning. From his book:
“In Vila da Luz, I park my car below those villas. There are already journalists around the apartment; fortunately they don’t see me. They’re more interested with the place of the facts. I walk the route eventually used by the abductor, I come to a villa, bordered by a net fence surrounding overgrown vegetation. Inside, there are two vehicles, whose licence numbers I give to the on duty shift in Portimão and wait for the result of the research. After a few minutes, a green van, driven by an individual wearing glasses, parks at the entrance to that villa, quickly going inside it. His face seemed familiar to me. But who is he? I had a quick look at the inside of the car, a child’s seat is visible. Suddenly the driver comes out of the villa helping an elderly woman, they walk towards the access area to the Tapas pools and restaurant, flanking the green area hidden by various houses.”
Amaral sees Murat and notices him. Not knowing from where he knows him is what has drawn his attention. He continues:
“In the hope of identifying the driver of the green van, I call to me the leader of one of those teams. I explain to him the reason of my presence and the interest in identifying the driver of that van. While we talked, we noticed that the individual to be identified was returning, who when passing by us greeted my interlocutor. I was astounded.
- Do you know that individual?
- Yes! He came to the GNR on Friday morning offering himself as a translator… he’s English but speaks Portuguese well… his name is Robert Murat
The number of inquiries, in English, to be done in such a short period of time had made us make use of volunteers in performing the task of translating in order to comply with the legal obligation of a translator in cases of inquiry of foreign citizens.
- Sorry… I know the difficulties in getting translators, but have you at least checked this guy out? Does he have criminal or police priors?
- Nothing! He seems to be clean… I didn’t know his house was this one… I wasn’t part of the team that visited it. You’re right… the house is in the direction of the route taken by the eventual abductor… What are we going to do?
- Stay here, carry on being friendly with him; I’m going to Portimão, we will see what exists about him. Keep him busy and go on talking to him to create empathy. We have to know about the life of this individual!”
What makes Amaral suspicious of Murat is the fact that Murat has offered himself to be a translator!
It’s not Lori Campbell’s suspicions, it’s not any of the T9 but Gonçalo Amaral himself who, unwittingly, turns “Operation Bait” from a flop into a success.”
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It’s clear from his book that Sr Amaral was not manipulated by anyone but himself.
JillyCL has made a statement, please let her back it up.
Thank you.
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DeleteIt is clear from his book that GA attempted to appear as un-manipulable.
I don't believe GA started to find RM suspicious because he offered himself as a translator. That would be too stupid. Didn't GA say that he never believed Jane T's story ? Anyhow Jane T never said that the hypothetical abductor was wearing glasses. And GA noticed immediately that RM had glasses on.
What I think is that GA is so proud that he would never admit that he was manipulated by anyone. Why doesn't he mention Lori Campbell? We know that she alerted the LC who alerted the PJ.
Remember that GA left the MC clothes go to the laundry because he was scared of the diplomatic consequences if those clothes were retained.
I know from a serious source that he didn't let Ricardo Paiva send the MC kids' milk packs to analyse, for the same reason.
https://www.algarvedailynews.com/news/14714-maddeleine-case-robert-murat-waits-10-years-for-tvi-peadophile-compensation
ReplyDeleteAbout Mr Murat’s compensation about being called a paedophile by a TVI reporter it is our opinion that it’s a correct decision by the Portuguese justice system.
The blog has never said anything linking Mr Murat with paedophilia. We never believed that there was such a link, so it would be ridiculous on our part to have done it.
We find the images that appear in the files and that were found in Mr Murat’s to be distasteful. They are a popular kind of imagery in Japan called Manga. We have stated clearly that they were NOT of paedo nature and said that those who said they were, were wrong.
We have even stated that we believe the statement of a woman who points a paedo finger at Murat to be economical with the truth.
As far as we know, there was only one person discussing the case on the internet (and his followers seemed to agree with him) who implied that these Manga images were paedo.
In terms of media, we think this reporter was the only one to do so. The Portuguese Justice system has acted accordingly, although in its unfortunately slow timings.
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/22/metropolitan-police-anti-corruption-unit-faces-investigation
ReplyDeleteAbout Op Embley
Maybe this means OG isn’t likely to do anything to obstruct justice? In time?