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| 7 years and around 2H30 hours after she departed |
Perhaps if Death is kind, and there can be returning,
We will come back to earth some fragrant night,
And take these lanes to find the sea, and bending
Breathe the same honeysuckle, low and white.
We will come down at night to these resounding beaches
And the long gentle thunder of the sea,
Here for a single hour in the wide starlight
We shall be happy, for the dead are free.
Sara Teasdale
RIP Maddie, truth is coming.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rtp.pt/play/p1047/e152700/sexta-as-9-ii
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Hi Textusa - thanks for this touching post.
ReplyDeleteQuery on timing comment : '7 years and around 2H30 hours after she departed'
If death occurred around 17:30 would this be correct? presuming this was posted at nearly 8am..
Anonymous 3 May 2014 09:54:00
DeleteWe believe Maddie's death occurred, by accident, during David Payne's visit to the apartment on May 3rd, around 18H30.
The "2H30" refers to time the service will be held today in PdL: 21H00.
Then it will be, in our opinion, 7 years and around 2H30 hours after Maddie departed, unfortunately, departed this world.
I see what you mean... thanks
DeleteContactada ontem pelo CM, a Procuradoria-Geral da República afirmou que as três cartas rogatórias enviadas pelas autoridades britânicas - pedindo a realização de diligências - foram enviadas para o Ministério Público de Portimão, que já as entregou à PJ para a sua execução.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/mccann-atacam-policias
Pais de Maddie querem equipa conjunta para acelerar investigação
ReplyDeleteO cardiologista sugeriu ainda que equipa de investigação internacional poderia receber financiamento adicional da União Europeia, algo que a Scotland Yard também confirmou à Lusa. De acordo com os regulamentos europeus para as Equipas de Investigação Conjuntas, é possível obter assistência financeira da UE, Eurojust e Europol para “assistência financeira para despesas de deslocação/alojamento e interpretação/tradução e apoio logístico (empréstimo de equipamentos).
http://www.publico.pt/sociedade/noticia/pais-de-maddie-querem-equipa-conjunta-para-acelerar-investigacao-1634478
E que tal "apoio financeiro" do fundo privado...? para que serve esse dinheiro, agora que há investigação "oficial", o fundo não tem razão de existir! Todo o dinheiro que lá está deveria ser encaminhado para a investigação da polícia ou no caso de isso não ser legalmente possível, deveria ser doado a instituições de solidariedade social!
DeleteMas, é claro, a isso os McCann dizem: "tá quieto, ó mau !", acompanhado com um gesto igual ao do Zé Povinho do Bordalo Pinheiro!
Anonymous 3 May 2014 11:13:00,
DeleteThank you for the link.
Let’s for a minute pretend that UK behaved correctly in 2007/2008 in Maddie’s case.
Let’s even pretend that SY and PJ are best of pals.
Let’s exaggerate the whole thing and pretend that not only SY wants to work side-by-side with PJ as PJ also wants to work jointly with SY on Maddie’s case.
Is it possible?
No, we don’t think it is.
You see, JIT or Joint Investigative Teams are set up to face “offences WITH A CROSS BORDER DIMENSION”.
Maddie’s, although involving, both in the known (or publicly disseminated) version and in ours, a majority of British citizens is NOT a transnational crime.
It is a globally known crime. It has spawned transnational interest. But it happened in Portugal. And only in Portugal as far as we know.
To be blunt, UK has a great interest in this case because it involves its citizens but UK has absolutely NO LEGAL INTEREST in the case.
As it has “personal” interest in it, it should provide all possible help to the ONLY ones who have the LEGAL INTEREST in the matter: the Portuguese.
And as concerns all helps, it must be requested and never imposed.
And UK is really, really imposing its help when it isn’t being requested (when in 2007/2008, the help the Portuguese did request it then it merited a response of the “quality” that we now know).
But, in our exercise, we said that we wanted to pretend PJ wanted that help.
The fact that it isn’t an “offence with a cross border dimension”, the acceptance of such help would mean that PJ was assuming fully its incapability to do its job on own territory.
The word “investigation” does NOT include ONLY the gathering of evidence and making conclusions about it.
It’s not only about being intelligent in looking at data and being able to see what others have failed to see.
A criminal investigation involves a crime. Its end result is to determine who is accountable for having committed a crime.
That means that it’s a process that involves those “who did it” but, most importantly, involves those who didn’t do it.
These may have something to do with the case, such as the witnesses, but may also involve, and usually does, those that have absolutely nothing to do with the case: the potential witnesses. People who the investigators thought for some reason could be witnesses but then turn out to have nothing relevant to the case investigated.
This to say that any criminal investigation involves ALWAYS individual rights. The rights of perfectly innocent people. And an investigation is always on the verge of infringing. Not doing so because it is done by professionals.
ONLY a NATIONALLY TRAINED professional knows what limits to individual rights that an investigation is allowed to cross.
For that reason a Portuguese cop cannot question a citizen in the UK about a crime in the UK.
He also cannot question a UK or Portuguese citizen in the UK about a crime that happened in Portugal. He can ask the UK Police to ask the questions. Is it because of competence? No, because of individual rights involved. That’s why there’s sovereignties and jurisdictions.
A UK/Portugal JIT would only be set up in cases which the Portuguese police questions citizens in Portugal and the UK police questions citizens in UK concerning a hypothetical crime that would have to occur BOTH in UK and Portugal (e.g. drug, arms and human trafficking, etc).
In Maddie’s case the only possible reason for a PJ/SY JIT would have to be that it was a human trafficking crime BOTH in Portugal and in UK. UK, as far as we are aware hasn’t ever been pointed as possible destination for Maddie by anyone. Not a single sighting there when in the rest of the world Maddie was spotted everywhere.
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DeleteSo SY asking for a JIT is stupid. There’s no other word. To set up such a thing, as we said, there must be a strong suspicion that the crime extended to UK. If it extended to, say, Morocco, then PJ would have to ask help from Moroccan police, not SY or any other agency from UK.
For PJ to accept a JIT it would concede that it couldn’t do its job. That would mean that those responsible for manning the PJ weren’t able to man it with the adequate, in terms of competency, people, or that those who conceptualised the PJ did it without assuring that it could fulfil its mission.
In our opinion it would be illegal for PJ to accept such help even if it wanted to.
And all the UK whining has proved VERY CLEARLY that it doesn’t even consider it.
A last note about this “joint” subject and is directly to the UK authorities. Asking for a JIT based on “we will help you financially” is offensive. It’s to say that we the rich UK will help you the Portuguese peasants. We, the expensive-shoe-UK, will give you, the Portuguese-who-can-afford-to-buy-flip-flops a magnanimous and altruistic help.
Maybe promise the impoverished nation a knife and fork meal at the end? Maybe even with a steak made out of beef? We’re sure the Portuguese hunger-stricken will be mighty grateful.
It seems that you didn’t really understand the severity of the “sardine-munching” insult.
Please continue to spike the animal. Just don’t cry afterwards.
As always, anyone with better knowledge of international law can correct us.
About European JITs
Deletehttps://www.europol.europa.eu/content/page/joint-investigation-teams-989
https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/general-legal-basis-jits
The 2000 MLA Convention provides for specific forms of mutual agreements, inter alia the setting up of JITs. Subject to mutual agreements between two or more Member States.
The competent authorities of the respective States may set up a JIT for a specific purpose and for a limited period (yhis period may, however, be extended by mutual consent).
Any Member State investigating offences WITH A CROSS BORDER DIMENSION may request the setting up of a JIT.
The composition of the team will consist of law enforcement officers, prosecutors and judges and other relevant personnel.
The team will be led by a person from the State in which the JIT operates.
Although the members of the team may originate from various jurisdictions they are to carry out their duties in accordance with the national law of the territory where the investigation is taking place.
Investigations may be carried out in the Member State of operation by seconded members provided the approval is granted by the Member State of operation and seconded Member State.
This is what SY wishes:
“Additionally, paragraph 9 permits a member of a JIT to make available to the team relevant information accessible in their State, provided it is in accordance with national law and that it falls within the limits of the seconded member’s competence.”
But forgets that:
“Where investigative measures are being carried out the seconded team member is entitled to be present PROVIDED THAT THE COMPETENT AUTHORITIES DO NOT DECIDE OTHERWISE.”
The parents want FINANCIAL assistance from the European Union - to do WHAT with, exactly! These people are beyond reason, beyond shame.
DeleteGood day to the Team and to the readers.
ReplyDeleteMore money? And now the European Union? It's amazing shamelessness and always walk with money in their desires. They say that "Gerry and Kate admitted in the same interview the anniversary day of Maddie, t on May 12, is "more emotional" than the date of .... “disappearance” ……
If was with me or another Person will be all days!
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/377186/Madeleine-McCann-s-mum-Kate-furious-at-cruel-Portugal-police
ReplyDeleteMADELEINE MCCANN'S MUM KATE FURIOUS AT CRUEL PORTUGAL POLICE
MADELEINE McCann’s mum yesterday admitted the Portuguese police’s refusal to join forces with Brit detectives to find her daughter is “incredibly distressing”.
By Jerry Lawton/Published 3rd May 2014
Kate, 46, appealed for police from both countries to speed up the search by forming a joint invest- igation team.
She said the current situation in which Met Police have to send formal letters to their Portuguese counterparts asking them to carry out inquiries on their behalf was causing “unnecessary delays and barriers”.
Kate spoke before taking part in a vigil with friends and neighbours in Rothley, Leics, yesterday to pray for Madeleine’s safe return – seven years after she vanished from a holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
She said: “Working together is key to the progress of the investigation and a joint team could provide a more streamlined way of working with less bureaucracy.
“It may be seven years since we last saw Madeleine but the passing of further weeks and months as a result of unnecessary delays and barriers are not only frustrating, they are incredibly distressing.”
It is the first time the McCanns have criticised the Portuguese police since forces from both nations launched separate fresh inquiries last year.
Who can blame the PJ to not want anything to do with the SY?! The last time they did "join forces" with the british they (PJ) only got screwed up! (Amaral and Rebelo's investigation)
DeleteAs the saying goes: "à primeira qualquer cai, à segunda cai quem quer"!
(in the first mistake/trap, anyone is bound to fall in, in the second one, only fall those who want to, or the stupid...)
..."We shall be happy, for the dead are free."
ReplyDeleteI hope so, I wish with all my heart that Madeleine is happy and free where she is now. I hope she is at peace.
Mc lies forever ?
ReplyDeleteThey tired us but we are fight for the Little Girl and they never have done so.
With such poison in their lies and are they with health ?
O horário deste serviço religioso é mto interessante. Parece-me um recado/ convite camuflado para um grupo que quem organizou sabe bem. Gostava de ser mosca p/ ver quem compareceu. Embora estejamos no mês de Maria e dos Terços p/ os católicos, duvido q tenham aparecido portugueses, e atendendo à hora, tb só terão comparecido os ingleses c/ interesse direto no caso ( Maddie).
ReplyDeletePara disfarçar ainda + o encontro, tornaram-no aberto a todas as crianças q/ já morreram. Se fosse só p/ Maddie, era demasiado obvio e suspeito. Atendendo ao tamanho da povoação n/ creio q/ haja mtas crianças q/ tenham partido, por isso isto foi uma reuniào de um grupinho nas barbas da policia. Mais uma vez, a igreja usada como escritório p/ definir estratégias entre os envolvidos. PJ abre os olhos q/ neste caso nada é o que pretendem fazer parecer.
I recently undertook a vision quest.
ReplyDelete4 days and 4 nights with neither food nor water.
In that eternity my prayers were so very deep.
And Madeleine was in them with the rising and setting sun.
Thankfully, despite the enormity of the game her name has become
her spirit is at peace. She knows how she is loved.
Blessings Madeleine.
From Jill Havern's site:
ReplyDeleteTonight, at 23:00h
MADDIE SPECIAL" ON CMTV SATURDAY 3/5, 23:00(11PM) WITH GONÇALO AMARAL.
CMTV, Correio da Manhã cable tv channel
I suppose it will also be available online, in CMTV's website
https://www.facebook.com/cmjornal/posts/10154094022765475?stream_ref=10
ReplyDeleteComments have started alredy, and the show hasn't aired yet...
http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=734720&tm=8&layout=122&visual=61
ReplyDeleteThe McCanns and their lies keep on making innocent victims: - the widow of Euclides Monteiro has lost her job due to all the unsavory media attention.
ReplyDeleteCMTV has just stated that SuperBockman used to lie down next to the little girls while they were in their beds before leaving the villas/apartments!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat a caring sex assaulter!!
As it's maintaned that he had dark skin and a pot belly he must have smothered Maddie to death when lying next to her...
And it explains why he didn't take any of the twins. He couldn't fit in the cots to lie down next to them...
And, the SY (in)famous round circle T-shirt is nothing like the one showed in the program, the real SuperBock t-shirts, the one shown on the program, have words inside the round circle - SUPER
DeleteMAN
Amaral questions if Euclides is even a line of investigation.
ReplyDeleteA story was created based on an abduction
Abduction wasn't proved.
It's a lie that Monteiro was pinpointed in Ocean Club through cellphone. Antenna indicates Luz general area.
Amaral insists on DP and paedo possibility
Questions why Creche Dad was walking with his daughter when was seen by JT.
Questions why has Smithman lost all relevance now
Questions who says that Mcs declared innocent.
In RTP's program, with Sandra Felgueiras (6ª às nove), when she interviewed Euclides's widow, the cellphone antena was correctly addressed, the antena that covers the Luz area is situated right above Euclides house, in a straight line, no buildings between the antena and the house. Of course Euclides cellphone would be "captured" by that antena and reveal he was in the Luz area at that time...but in his home, writing a poem in his personal computer (it's recorded in the computer memory, the day and time), not outside the Ocean Club.
DeleteCMTV: Mcs said to Lusa that they will only accept that Maddie is dead when there's conclusive evidence to that effect.
ReplyDeletePresenter just announced that there will be a new reconstitution made by CMTV showing the discrepancies.
Reconstitution shown tonight is the same as the one shown in 2013
ReplyDeletePaulo Sargento confirms he participated in reconstitution made in 2007 by Univ Lusofona and they found these and more discrepancies.
ReplyDeleteThat even without the T9 timelines written in the children's book he found that the checks were unfeasable.
Says that Kate came all the way down screaming and didn't just shout from balcony.
That there's a pact between the T9. Only a pact justifies ripping so quickly the page from the book to write the timelines.
Parents do look for missing children for a long time but many do that to serve as an alibi
That the pact is not about Maddie but about what could have happened to the group in Britain
Amaral asked if he believes SY protecting Mcs.
ReplyDeleteAnswers that until SY doesn't investigate the DP/paedo connection it will have to explain why it doesn't investigate that.
Says CW backfired because everyone, for example all over the internet, immediately recognised Gerry has the man Smith saw
He doesn't believe Mcs looking for Maddie
Paulo Sargento also said that, well, Gonçalo Amaral cannot say it, because he's a policeman, but I'm not, and will say it, the SY is working under "someone's" worders (in portuguese, " a mando de alguém", meaning under a 3rd party's orders, not with truthful or honest intentions)
DeleteCMTV called the Smiths and a woman's voice says that it was with her father and that the family doesn't want to speak about the case.
ReplyDeleteThis poor family must be petrified. If ever there was a case of someone being 'got at' and threatened behind the scenes, it's this family.
DeleteThese people KNOW the man they saw that night was Gerry McCann but they have been frightened enough to say that they were mistaken and pretty much retract what they claimed at the time.
They got a "friendly" visit from Brian Kennedy and his on, didn't they...?
DeleteThe face (looks) of Brian Kennedy does not say "friendly guy" to me...he looks like a bully!
(I mean Brian K:, the window frame guy, not Kate's uncle)
Sorry, I made a typo: it shoul read "...visit from Brian Kennedy and his son"
DeleteAmaral continues to give high importance to the Smith Sighting
ReplyDeleteQuestions why journalists do not investigate and ask the inconvenient questions when they find out things weren't right
Asks why journos don't question the DO/paedo issue.
Sargento says that if there's a single piece of evidence of abduction he will shut up forever
ReplyDeleteThat only 2 suspects are conveniently dead
Says that SY is obeying orders from someone.
Amaral insists that hairs that are in Portugal should be tested for DNA
ReplyDeleteTextusa,
DeleteDo you think Mr Amaral is bluffing when he said Portugal had hair samples which could be tested?
I thought the samples didn't possess hair roots and therefore couldn't be tested. I hope he's right. The PJ should never have trusted the FSS.
Anonymous 4 May 2014 12:02:00
DeleteNo, we don't believe he's bluffing and will explain why.
Please give us time to put our explanation together.
Anonymous 4 May 2014 12:02:00,
DeleteAnswering your question on whether Goncalo Amaral was bluffing about hair samples which may have come from Madeleine being in the possession of a Portuguese lab? It would seem not.
Portugal Resident – “Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions” March 21 2014
Goncalo Amaral described how vital leads in the case appear to have been dropped deliberately.
He talked of high-level political involvement which left DNA samples untested and key witnesses overlooked. He also said that DNA evidence from the McCanns’ rental car could have been more thoroughly tested and that hair samples were not followed up because the British lab claimed hair samples without roots couldn’t be tested.
“It is possible and it was possible at the time” Amaral insisted. “ These hair samples are in Portugal and they are in the files. It’s simple! All the public ministry has to do is take the hairs and send them to a European laboratory, or anywhere where these exams are done without roots.”
In a recent interview with CMTV, he stated that the hairs were returned to Portugal and appended in the process. If so, he is referring to the process- the PJ files- which were made available in 2008 and therefore available for checking.
Andrew Palmer –FSS
Outros Apensos 1 vol 2 372-333 9/11/07 remitted by Portuguese lab and Leicester Police
Lab Ref: 300655190
“To determine if down or hair was recovered from Renault Scenic 59-DA-27and’ if affirmative, to determine if those may have come from Madeleine McCann.”
Scenic samples
1A-D 2A-E 3 4A-C 5A-C 6A-C 7ABC 8A-C 9 11 (2 objects)
Follicle root material is insufficient for standard DNA tests.
“4 hairs- one from 7B and three from 7C were sent for LCN DNA tests. The results of these tests will be presented by my colleague John Lowe.”
Undated correspondence from Paolo Rebelo, ( presumed to be to the FSS, although no recipient is named) requests samples to be tested and whether 7B and 7C originate from ante mortem or post-mortem deposition.
Processos Vol X111 3578-3590 - numerous samples from the Scenic are listed. The significant samples are those below, because they are the samples sent to Lowe for LCN testing by Palmer.
7B- Fibres and possible head hair from the back left seat of the luggage area
7C-Fibres and possible head hair from the bottom in the left area of the back seat
FSS –GF- 679 Emissao 2 pagina 8
cont.
cont.
DeleteLowe reports
“My colleague, Andrew Palmer, submitted various hairs collected from the Renault Scenic for tests, using LCN. These hairs were designated as 7B hair 1 and 7C hairs 7, 13 and 15
Attempts to obtain a DNA profile of each hair by LCN were unfruitful, because no DNA profile was obtained by LCN, possibly due to there being an insufficient quantity of good quality DNA.”
Returns of above 4 samples were received in Portugal
FSS Processos 13 3465-6
Return of samples to PT
286 24 items (curtain not tested)
286C 34 items 1-9 11 all hairs/fibres
Items for return (from FSS) dated 27/11/07
Ref 3000655190 states 33 items were returned.
7B and 7C are items 23 and 24.
This, we think, must be the material GA refers to in the CMTV programme, when he says the hairs were returned and appended in the process.
It’s signed for and the signature seems to be that of Fernando Viegas, but it isn’t dated.
Fernando Viegas* and Luis Virido accompanied Professor Corte Real, President of the Portuguese forensic service to Leicester Police in November 2007, to obtain a decisive report on the DNA. As reported in Diario da Noticias on 29/11/07. So was it handed over at that meeting?
Two IFs follow here: IF this is the material Goncalo Amaral is referring to and IF the hairs are sent for testing and prove to be Madeleine’s, is this decisive proof? Would an innocent explanation for hairs being found in these particular locations be feasible or would it become part of a body of circumstantial evidence?
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
(*Viegas was no bungling amateur, although blamed by Lowe for contaminating evidence from 5A. He and Virido were described as experts. He must be feeling sore about this insult from the UK.)
E quem pode garantir que as amostras enviadas para o FSS são as mesmas que foram "devolvidas" a Portugal, Ahâ?
DeleteAnonymous 5 May 2014 20:45:00,
DeleteThank you for your comment.
The question is not whether the hairs are genuine or not but if there are hairs that are said, officially, from Maddie's crime scene in Portugal that can be tested for DNA.
We tried to show readers that there are.
Is anon 20:45 suggesting the hairs returned to Portugal from FSS are not the hairs that were originally sent from Portugal?
DeleteI think that would be a step too far, even for the FSS
Program ends using footage from 2013
ReplyDeleteHope I was useful. Apologise possible mistakes. Hard to write on cellphone and listen at the same time
Anon, we can't thank you enough!!!
DeleteExcellent, Anon. 23.07 to 23.56, the interview with GA on CMTv, thank you. Scotland Yard looks weak seemingly fed by Clarence Mitchell's- also via Kate and Gerry, lies about the Portuguese police too obvious; Mr Smith's sighting of Gerry McCann and his trouser can stand on its own. The three people that have to be investigated are Kate & Gerry McCann and David Payne to get the answers about 'they've taken her', Kate was there and McCann lawyer said in the TB trial that K&G have no evidence of an abduction !!
Delete** Labour figure 'facing abuse claims' **
ReplyDeleteAn MP who wrote about abuse accusations against Cyril Smith says he has also discussed the alleged abuse of boys by a senior Labour figure with police.
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27272330 >
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619556/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-thank-public-support-attend-prayer-service-seventh-anniversary-daughters-disappearance.html
ReplyDeleteIt really shows the support the Mcs are having. Remember the 1,000 day celebration and all the fancy dresses then?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/377301/Madeleine-McCann-Portuguese-police-deny-that-arrests-will-be-made-soon
ReplyDeleteMADDIE: PORTUGUESE POLICE BLAST BRIT COPS AND DENY ARRESTS WILL BE MADE SOON
By Neil Chandler & Tracey Kandohla/Published 4th May 2014
Yesterday marked exactly seven years since the little girl vanished from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve.
But at a special prayer service in the McCanns’ home village of Rothley, Leics, dad Gerry, 45, said he and wife Kate had been buoyed by the Scotland Yard probe.
He said: “They are going back out to Portugal very soon. They are chipping away and there is new evidence.
“We are going to continue hoping we get a happy outcome – and one day we will know what’s happening.”
But the Portuguese have accused the Metropolitan Police of going on a “media offensive” over the case. They say leads recently publicised by the Met are “very flimsy”.
And they say claims about imminent arrests are not true.
A well-placed source said: “They’re pulling their hair out in relation to recent allegations by the Met.
“They’re very angry the ¬British police have gone on a media offensive.
“Furthermore, the information is not consistent with the information they have.”
Last year, Portuguese authorities agreed to re-open the probe into Madeleine’s 2007 disappearance after a review by the Met.
In January, British police suggested three burglars were prime suspects.
The source said: “The Met have sent them three letters saying they want to interview the three burglars…they’ve had those letters quite a long time.
“The Portugese are ¬saying ‘We have got it but we won’t be doing that tomorrow, not soon, not in the near future will we be acting on that. This is our investigation and we won’t be acting on the Met police stuff (any time soon)’. Relationships (with the Met) are so poor, they felt the Met would be better off building a relationship with them than going out doing press.”
In March, the Met appealed for information about a sex attacker linked to 12 break-ins in the Algarve.
Five young girls were said to have been sexually assaulted during four of the raids.
In an update last month, the Met said the appeal had yielded information on six more incidents, including an attack on a girl in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine vanished.
The suspect, they said, was “smelly” and “pot-bellied” and it was reported that arrests might be made soon.
But our source said the Portuguese police believe the information publicised by the Met is “very flimsy” and claimed they had not shared the leads with them.
“The Portuguese are saying if your young girl has been assaulted while you are on holiday, why not report it then or at least as soon as you get home. If it’s a serious allegation of sexual assault, why not report it at the time?
“They are not saying these things didn’t happen but they are saying ‘Why is it all coming out now?
“They don’t know even the nature of these indecent assaults and it is all very flimsy.
“The Portuguese are saying lines of inquiry they (the Met) have aren’t ones brought to our intention and the relationship is very poor, this is a Portuguese investigation and the idea of imminent arrests isn’t true.”
Yesterday a tearful Kate, 46, told villagers at the low-key outdoor prayer service: “We are still battling, still hoping, still searching for Madeleine.”
She added: “The past seven years have been so difficult and painful.”
Anonymous 4 May 2014 08:54:00,
DeleteInteresting to see that EVEN the Daily Star is reporting this.
If readers don't remember, this rag was the ONLY one to give a hand to the McCanns in their Summer 2011 "desert crossing". No other tabloid would touch them during that time.
What next? A report like this one from Jerry Lawton, or even from... Antonella Lazzeri??
Thank you, Textusa, that we can visit your blog to catch up on the latest ! :) whatever happens the world knows that McCanns have no evidence of an abduction. When will their Fund be investigated, that is another question.
DeleteFiona Bruce interview with Mcs at 10.30 this morning.
ReplyDeleteIt shouts to me that SY are desperate to get inside the PJ to influence the investigation away from the truth because PJ are about to reveal the truth very soon.
Express today James Murray have a Dawn Turp 29, aged 17 at the time who had burglar at holiday home twice in PdL
ReplyDelete2001 he stole items, foreign, possibly Potuguese but didn't see his face.
5 months later, cash and cards taken.
The clues - haha - are getting more desperate by the minute!
How are petty thefts related to anything?
http://cmtv.sapo.pt/atualidade/detalhe/sete-anos-sem-madide-mccann.html
ReplyDeleteSete anos sem Madide McCann 16:55 Maddie McCann desapareceu, há sete anos, do apartamento do Ocean Club, na Praia da Luz. Foi o início de um caso dos mais mediáticos de sempre da justiça portuguesa que correu e continua a correr mundo. Em outubro do ano passado, o processo foi reaberto em Portugal, sustentado numa linha de investigação nova, que liga o desaparecimento a uma sucessão de casos de abusos sexuais a cinco crianças inglesas, ocorridos na zona da Praia da Luz.
Ler mais em: http://cmtv.sapo.pt/atualidade/detalhe/sete-anos-sem-madide-mccann.html
Very true wiords that you have put up:
ReplyDeleteAll truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
Now that GA is pointing the finger at Payne, people forget that you were the first to do that. Let's see what else you have said becomes also self-evident soon.
Ah, but you see, the difference is (a big difference),...Mr. Amaral "points the finger" at Payne in the context of paedophilia. He points out that since the SY is so interested in "selling" the paedophile link, then it should start by investigating a complaint that is in the process, the testimony of Katherina Gaspar about David Payne's alledged paedophile behavior. From what I understand, Mr. Amaral believes that paedophilia is at the root of the case, not from a stranger, but within one or more members of the group.(remember that Gerry, of all people, was the one to whom Payne was talking to, when he made the finger in-and-out of the mouth gestures)
Delete" Maddie cop's ready to start digging the Resort" - front page of the "Daily Mirror " available át. Jill Forum.
ReplyDeleteWhich cop's? The portuguese, who deny the british lign of investigation, or the british, who could not digg anything in Portugal because the territory is not under their jurisdiction?
That sounds a lot like the " Birch digg in Murat's garden" . Somebody is trying to challenge some of the pierrots involved with the cover up.
Euclides was discharged by PJ and only a very stupid person believes the girl was buried near or in the Resort on May 2007. But her remains could have been transfered there after the archievement of the case and after the Media Calm down.
Interesting, the british media seems to be in a turning point. Some ligns of investigation are not "tabu" anymore. The Mccann's have lost the control of untide ropes and the best they can do is filling the media with interviews where there is no appeals to the abductor or to the public to keep searching their daughter, only a subtil admission of her death. I don't find a single sentence where they express their hope of a safe return of Madeleine or an anguish related with the pain the girl could have being through, if alive. Kate said in An. Interview, that Madeleine could have turning 11( years ) and start the secondary next September. The pass, used on her sentence, deserves an " IF" whch was obviously ommitted, but could easily be spoted "IFAlive".
How can this parents engage a so serious farce for so long and turn the point, switch off the botton so easy ? Who are they protecting? David Payne and his connections? Apart the swing, is there a Paedo ring involving people in high positions? I know, that Swing and Paedophilia look incompatible, but clearly, the Mccann's were forced to engage the circus to protect other people as well. And those people never came to daylight to show their support on Mccann's cause or to defend a strong investigation on the girl to recover her. Seems, they know she is dead and nothing could be done to help her and they don't want to be involved on any Children campaign like the " Amber Alert". That is something that always intrigates me... If one of my friends, neighbours, etc, had a children missing due to an abduction, I will do everything I can to help their case to be known and I will engage their fates and campaigns, 100%, and let the world know my support to atract others because on such cases " NUMBER IS POWER".
What we have seen on Mcc friends all this 7 years? LOW PROFILE, DISTANCE FROM THE HOT VOLCANO. They protect themselves and the Mccann's were forced to act and show work on that protection.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=635264473221748&set=gm.581858025244659&type=1
ReplyDelete"Maddie cops to start digging up resort"
???!!!
The Daily Mirror article about the digging is available at Mccannfiles.
ReplyDeleteDid I read well ".... cop's planning to digg 3 areas where they stayed at"?
The paper saying that the digg foccus is on places where the Mccann's have been? Well, that temptation of the abductor to physical follow the parents, is amazing. So amazing as The Redwood faty smelly abductor, who also loves to wear a red TShirt with a white circle.
What is Next? He rented the Renault Scenic and was him who transported the body on it?
They know, all evidences lye on Mccann's surrounds, they just need to fabricate an explanation and Stick it in to a probable guy. If the guy is dead, perfect.
Gerry and Kate McCann interview analyzed by Peter Hyatt (Statement Analysis):
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Erica.
DeleteThank you very much! Very interesting reading which I recommend to all readers!
"NOTICE : This morning at 10am, Stephen D. Birch received a registered letter containing papers from Portugals Ministerio da Justica in which both the state and Robert James Queriol Eveleigh Murat and Jenifer Na Murat are suing Stephen for tresspassing and the state is suing Stephen for unlawfully conducting an investigation under article 57 & 58 section 2,3 and 4 of the penal act... "
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/diggingformadeleinmccann?fref=photo
Well, it seems that Birch will now be able to add the Portuguese experience to his vast legal one.
Deletehttp://www.fofoki.com/noticias/maddie-mp-autorizou-buscas-escavacoes
ReplyDeleteMaddie: MP autorizou buscas e escavações
No caso Madeleine Mmcann, o Ministério Público acedeu ao pedido da polícia britânica para que sejam feitas buscas e escavações na praia da Luz. O pedido consta da mais recente carta rogatória.
A policia britânica quer que sejam feitas buscas em terrenos, na praia da Luz, onde suspeita que o corpo de Madeleine possa estar enterrado. Buscas serão feitas com um radar que permite analisar abaixo do solo.
Do mapa dos locais que estão sinalizados, constam zonas próximas do apartamento de onde a criança desapareceu há 7 anos e uma estrada, que na altura, estava em obras. São locais que os detetives defendem que a PJ não analisou até à exaustão. A carta rogatória, tal como as anteriores, já foi analisada pelo Ministério Público de Portimão.
A TVI sabe que as buscas, que preveem a realização de escavações, já foram autorizadas pelo procurador, falta, agora, marcar as datas e acertar os moldes em que vão ser feitas.
A polícia britânica também pediu para estar presente, na altura em que estas ações forem executadas pelos inspetores portugueses, mas essa decisão cabe à direção nacional da PJ e ainda não terá sido tomada.
Em março, a polícia metropolitana anunciou estar à procura de um predador sexual, dentro da tese de rapto, que sempre defendeu. Com este novo caminho e embora não o confirme oficialmente, está a admitir, pela primeira vez, a hipótese de Madeleine estar morta.
Just watched on TVI 8pm news that a request for escavations is part of the SY rogatory letter(s) to the PJ, and that it has been authorized by the PJ directorate.
ReplyDeleteThe escavations will look for places where Madeleine might have been buried...by the smelly paedophile, of course! Bells started to ring in my head, I would not be a bit surprised if Madeleiene's body was indeed found...in one of "those" places of interest to the SY...
if the PJ, according to Gerry McCann and his buddy Ed Smart, is considered capable of planting evidence (cadaverine scent in 5A, car, etc.) to suit its investigative purposes and frame people, why would it be different with the SY...?
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/sociedade/maddie-escavacoes-buscas-algarve-desaparecida-madeleine-mmcann/1553948-4071.html
ReplyDeleteMaddie: MP autorizou buscas e escavações
Sociedade
Pedido constava da carta rogatória mais recente enviada pelas autoridades britânicas
No caso Madeleine Mmcann, o Ministério Público acedeu ao pedido da polícia britânica para que sejam feitas buscas e escavações na praia da Luz. O pedido consta da mais recente carta rogatória.
A policia britânica quer que sejam feitas buscas em terrenos, na praia da Luz, onde suspeita que o corpo de Madeleine possa estar enterrado. Buscas serão feitas com um radar que permite analisar abaixo do solo.
Do mapa dos locais que estão sinalizados, constam zonas próximas do apartamento de onde a criança desapareceu há 7 anos e uma estrada, que na altura, estava em obras. São locais que os detetives defendem que a PJ não analisou até à exaustão.
A carta rogatória, tal como as anteriores, já foi analisada pelo Ministério Público de Portimão.
A TVI sabe que as buscas, que preveem a realização de escavações, já foram autorizadas pelo procurador, falta, agora, marcar as datas e acertar os moldes em que vão ser feitas.
A polícia britânica também pediu para estar presente, na altura em que estas ações forem executadas pelos inspetores portugueses, mas essa decisão cabe à direção nacional da PJ e ainda não terá sido tomada.
Em março, a polícia metropolitana anunciou estar à procura de um predador sexual, dentro da tese de rapto, que sempre defendeu. Com este novo caminho e embora não o confirme oficialmente, está a admitir, pela primeira vez, a hipótese de Madeleine estar morta.
Atendendo a que neste caso, tudo o que predominou e o fez avançar durante estes 7 anos, assentou em farsas, não seria surpresa se estas escavações revelassem o corpo.
ReplyDeletePresumo que a policia inglesa há muito sabe onde o corpo está e não teve trabalho nem dificuldade em descobrir isso, bastou garantir protecção aos envolvidos e fingir que investigava alguma coisa. O mais dificil foi criar o enredo que levasse Portugal a reabrir o processo e autorizar hipotéticas buscas. Agora que conseguiram, siga a farsa- escave-se em 2 ou 3 sitios para não parecer demasiado obvio que sabem onde está e infecte-se a opinião pública com predadores sexuais em série, enquanto os papás mudam de cassete e falam de morte.
Vamos ver até onde vai a farsa- morreu no apartamento ou depois? Quem a levou e como? Euclides está descartado. Vào apresentar-nos o cromo "n", gordo, mal cheiroso e de TShirt vermelha ou este vai ser mais um papão sem rosto, destinado a preencher os medos das crianças e ponto final?
Vamos ver se a SY mantém o interesse nas escavações se for a PJ a dirigir as operaçōes com os Redwoods fora da jogada. Duvido!!!!!
ReplyDeleteVão arranjar a desculpa de sempre " a falta de colaboração da policia portuguesa" para deixarem cair a jogada. Escavações sem a hipótese de poderem " plantar indícios que incriminem um estranho" não têm qualquer interesse.
Como alguém já alvitrou em outros Posts, a PJ está a fazer o jogo da raposa- matreira e paciente, vai deixar que os british desesperem e se exponham ao ridiculo auto-desmascarando-se. É mais do que evidente que estão desesperados por fechar o caso com a criança morta às mãos de um tratante morto ou incógnito, andando por aí pelas ruas do mundo. Encontrar o corpo e o "raptor" é irrelevante. O que interessa é fechar o caso e libertar os pais e amigos da aura de suspeição que os rodeia até hoje ( basta vermos os comentários do público nos diversos jornais e linguas, onde exercer opinião é um direito livre e garantido).
Kate e Gerry, não vêm ao Algarve para acompanhar as escavações. Está quieto, correr riscos não é com eles, não vá o diabo pôr no caminho das escavações um saco de ténis azul que também parece andar desaparecido.
ReplyDeleteBelo contraste comportamental quando o comparamos com o de outros familiares de crianças desaparecidas. A familia de Ben Need acompanhou as ultimas escavações feitas pela policia na Grécia, os pais de Mariluz estiveram sempre ao lado da policia em todas as buscas e o mesmo se passa com Filomena Teixeira que não se cansa de lutar por notícias do seu Rui Pedro.
Os Mccann lutam muito, mas só nos jornais e TVs, sentados no conforto de estúdios jornalísticos especializados em contra-informação e lamechas.
If SY received information about the location of a body in PdL, this should have been passed to the Portuguese authorities. If this proposed digging is just a speculative guesswork, it would point to a hasty and panicked burial well before the 10pm alarm, as post 10pm, the village was swarming with searchers. And after this, why would anyone choose a burial place in open spaces in PdL?
ReplyDeleteTaking the findings of the dogs into account, it seems to me that SY want to conduct random digs, to find a child they now believe to be dead.
To dig and not to find does not equal alive. All of it makes no sense.
About this digging episode::
ReplyDeletehttp://textusa.blogspot.pt/2011/02/blogeditorial-decision-on-maddie-mccann.html
The only thing that it seems relevant to us is that it apparently is what justifies 1 of the 3 SY rog letters to PJ.
One third of SY's intensive work in the past 3 years. Estimating that the costs are now around 9,000,000 £, this would mean that these diggings have cost British taxpayers about 3,000,000 £ even before they started.
The Portuguese taxpayers will have to pay for the actual diggings. That's the downside of sovereignty. As this part of the farce is on Portuguese soil (literally), it’s up to the Portuguese to pick up the check. Pay the bill. Waste the money.
Now all we need to find out is what the other 6,000,000 £ are about. You know, the other 2 rog letters.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/caes-vao-procurar-corpo-de-maddie
ReplyDelete"Os ingleses prometem utilizar equipamento especial, como sondas que ajudam a encontrar cadáveres, e cães que cheiram o rasto da morte."
????
Portugal has teams which we been sent to help in catastrophes. Why bring over British dogs?
I'm also sure that they aren't going to find anything.
This is SY saying... look how we REALLY want to help you...
I think PJ should have answered what are you going to translate "woof, woof" into this time?
I also think PJ agreed to this circus as long as Portugal doesn't spend a cent.
Teams, dogs et al do bring some revenue to the area.
JUDGE REFUSES ‘A NUMBER’ OF FORMAL REQUESTS BY SCOTLAND YARD IN SEARCH FOR MADELEINE
ReplyDeleteby Brendan de Beer, in News • 05-05-2014 21:55:00
A Portuguese police source has told The Portugal News that some requests by Scotland Yard detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been “rejected due to a total lack of foundation.”
The ruling was made by a Portuguese criminal judge tasked with issuing search warrants applied for by the Metropolitan Police Service in the third and latest international letter of request sent to Lisbon earlier this year.
The police source stressed that contrary to latest newspaper reports both in Britain and Portugal, no digging has been scheduled with regards to the investigation.
A report in this Tuesday's Jornal de Notícias has however revealed that the Attorney-General's office has authorised digging in Praia da Luz, but said no date for these operations had been set.
But he reasoned that “if they are planning excavations, it means that they are looking for a body.”
As for reports that the digging could also serve to rule out the possibility that Madeleine is not alive, he questioned: “How many holes do you have to dig to rule out the existence of a body?”
He continued: “Why does the Metropolitan Police Service want to dig up holes if they believe Madeleine is still alive? How do you prove that somebody is alive by digging up holes?”
The police source reaffirmed an earlier position that the case was re-opened by Portuguese authorities to investigate a series of sexual assaults on children in the Algarve between 2004 and 2010.
“This was not uniquely to investigate Euclides Monteiro”, he explained, referring to the Cape Verdean national who died in a tractor accident on a golf course in Lagos, near Luz, back in 2009.
The source stressed: “All scenarios remain open.”
As for the modus operandi used by British detectives since the multi-million pound investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, codenamed Operation Grange, was signed off by Prime Minister David Cameron, the police source admitted: “Sincerely, it is not easy to understand them. But I’m sure they know what they are doing.”
He further questioned whether these latest revelations “which come after the anniversary of Madeleine McCann, have anything to do with the European elections and the need for the Metropolitan Police Service to prove to those who created this team that they have made some progress?”
Regarding the tactics employed by Portuguese police, he said: “We are completely committed to finding out what happened to Madeleine McCann. Our approach is humble and very honest. We have a complete notion of the difficulty and the importance this investigation has to all concerned and the need to obtain results. We are firmly committed to discover what happened. However, there are completely different ways of approaching the investigation. We prefer to talk less and do more.”
Scotland Yard were not immediately for comment on the refusal of some their requests, which are believed to total no fewer than 278.
British police leading hunt for Madeleine McCann given permission to begin digging at Portuguese resort where she disappeared.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621343/British-police-leading-hunt-Madeleine-McCann-given-permission-begin-digging-Portuguese-resort-disappeared.html
"British police leading the hunt for Madeleine McCann have been given permission to start digging at the resort in Portugal where she disappeared, it has been claimed.
Specialist search teams will scour sites across the Praia da Luz holiday resort where she disappeared seven years ago, shortly before her fourth birthday, according to Sky News...
A source close the McCanns said it will be a ‘heart-breaking and hugely emotional time’ for the family.
‘Police have assured Kate and Gerry that it does not mean they are specifically searching for her body,’ he said.
‘They are doing searches as much as to rule scenarios out as much as rule them in. They will be concentrating on several different places at different phases.
‘Certain areas should have been searched properly way back by the Portuguese authorities but were not.’
The searches are not being conducted as the result of any new information, but senior officers are keen to rule out every possibility.
They have said privately that the searches are a difficult issue because they suggest Portuguese police should have acted before.
Her parents Kate and Gerry McCann - who have never given up hope that she could still be alive - have already been briefed by Scotland Yard on the plan...
Just a thought...Madeleine, as far as we know is still a Ward of Court...
ReplyDelete(coincidentally, I have just watched on the SIC tv morning show crime reporter Hernâni Carvalho say that he had had access to a document which declares that Kate and Gerry McCann have no legal say whatsoever over their daughter, because her wardship is with the court, under Mrs. Justice Hogg)
in the event of Madeleine's remains being found, will the WOC status be grounds to have the remains immediately removed to England thus preventing the portuguese authorities from doing any forensic tests ?
I don't know why, but I've always suspected that this was the real purpose of making Madeleine a ward of court...making her sort of a "property" of the british state.
This is very informative on why children are made wards of court:
http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Madeleine_Ward_of_Court.htm
Madeleine was made a WOC, under "The Child Abduction and Custody Act, and the Hague Convention", WITHOUT a single police evidence of an abduction! This is why I feel so suspicious of the real motives of the WOC request.
Anon "Not to be published" at 6 May 2014 15:16:00
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment. We firmly believe that no such planting took place.
Thank you for the feedback. Being a supporter of your remarkable work, your beliefs are a relief for me.
Deletehttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27300312
ReplyDelete6 May 2014 Last updated at 16:50 GMT
MADELEINE MCCANN: POLICE CONFIRM PORTUGAL 'ACTIVITY'
Police investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance say "activity" is expected to begin in Portugal soon.
The disclosure comes amid reports Portuguese authorities have given permission for sites in Praia da Luz, where the toddler went missing, to be searched.
Met Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said he would be unable to provide details of the activity.
But he said he believed it would occur "in the coming weeks".
A letter was sent to media editors amid speculation about excavation work. Mr Rowley asked them to "think carefully" about information they published.
Madeleine was three when she went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Algarve, in May 2007.
No media updates
A request to search a number of sites was among a series of requests made to police in Portugal by British detectives working on the case, according to reports.
Mr Rowley said he had discussed the case with his opposite number in Portugal and highlighted the "high levels of interest" the activity would generate in the British media.
He said Portuguese police did not provide the media with updates on ongoing investigations.
Activity would cease if police in Britain gave out information or news reporters caused any disruption to their work in Portugal, he added.
Mr Rowley said the Portuguese authorities had been "more bureaucratic and slower" at processing requests than his team had wished.
But he asked the media to respect their requests as they carried out the work.
"We do not want to undermine our prospects of providing Mr and Mrs McCann with answers in this tragic case," he said.
Seventh anniversary
It comes after the seventh anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance was marked on Saturday.
Gerry McCann, Madeleine's father, expressed his family's gratitude that the Metropolitan Police team was now moving on to a "very active" phase in its investigation.
He said at the weekend: "They are chipping away and obviously there is new evidence so WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HOPE THAT WE WILL GET A HAPPY OUTCOME."
Kate McCann also disclosed last week that she returns to the Portuguese resort where her daughter disappeared to "walk those streets" and "look for answers" once or twice each year.
She also backed a revamped alert system triggered when missing children are kidnapped or their lives are at risk - known as Child Rescue Alerts.
Intruder sightings
Scotland Yard launched a fresh investigation - codenamed Operation Grange - into Madeleine's disappearance last July, two years into a review of the case, and made renewed appeals for information.
A high-profile campaign by the McCanns and the Portuguese police investigation had so far failed to locate the missing child.
In March, British police said they were also seeking an intruder who sexually abused five girls in Portugal between 2004 and 2006.
Detectives say the attacks happened in holiday villas occupied by UK families in the Algarve.
HAPPY???? Really, Gerry?!?!?
DeleteHOPING for a HAPPY outcome out of the digging????
Can't put into words the disgust I feel about you, Gerry.
Judge refuses ‘a number’ of formal requests by Scotland Yard in search for Madeleine
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theportugalnews.com/news/judge-refuses-a-number-formal-requests-by-scotland-yard-in-search-for-madeleine/31472
The police source stressed that contrary to latest newspaper reports both in Britain and Portugal, no digging has been scheduled with regards to the investigation.
A report in this Tuesday's Jornal de Notícias has however revealed that the Attorney-General's office has authorised digging in Praia da Luz, but said no date for these operations had been set.
But he reasoned that “if they are planning excavations, it means that they are looking for a body.”
As for reports that the digging could also serve to rule out the possibility that Madeleine is not alive, he questioned: “How many holes do you have to dig to rule out the existence of a body?”
He continued: “Why does the Metropolitan Police Service want to dig up holes if they believe Madeleine is still alive? How do you prove that somebody is alive by digging up holes?”
The police source reaffirmed an earlier position that the case was re-opened by Portuguese authorities to investigate a series of sexual assaults on children in the Algarve between 2004 and 2010.
“This was not uniquely to investigate Euclides Monteiro”, he explained, referring to the Cape Verdean national who died in a tractor accident on a golf course in Lagos, near Luz, back in 2009.
The source stressed: “All scenarios remain open.”
As for the modus operandi used by British detectives since the multi-million pound investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, codenamed Operation Grange, was signed off by Prime Minister David Cameron, the police source admitted: “Sincerely, it is not easy to understand them. But I’m sure they know what they are doing.”
He further questioned whether these latest revelations “which come after the anniversary of Madeleine McCann, have anything to do with the European elections and the need for the Metropolitan Police Service to prove to those who created this team that they have made some progress?”
Regarding the tactics employed by Portuguese police, he said: “We are completely committed to finding out what happened to Madeleine McCann. Our approach is humble and very honest. We have a complete notion of the difficulty and the importance this investigation has to all concerned and the need to obtain results. We are firmly committed to discover what happened. However, there are completely different ways of approaching the investigation. We prefer to talk less and do more.”
Scotland Yard were not immediately for comment on the refusal of some their requests, which are believed to total no fewer than 278."
VERY WELL ANSWERED!!!
A contra- informação inglesa continua a distorcer o que sai em Portugal.
ReplyDeleteEm Portugal diz-se que uma série de diligencias pedidas pela SY foram recusadas, e que será sob a batuta da PJ que serão feitas as escavações, sem data marcada. Nos UK, os media já apregoam que a SY foi autorizada a fazer as escavações nas próximas semanas. Irra, tanta distorção e egocentrismo já cheira muito mal.
Esta história das escavações parece-me mais um bluff inglês " para inglês ver". Nenhuma policia realmente empenhada na resolução de um caso, anuncia nos jornais o que vai fazer. Quando muito, comunica o resultado do que fez, à posteriori, para informação.
Anonymous 6 May 2014 23:44:00,
ReplyDeleteOne only digs to look for a DEAD body, doesn't one?
Isn't just that what the British MSM is shouting pretty loud?
http://spudgunsspoutings.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/madeleine-mccann-dear-portugal-world-is.html
ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann. Dear PORTUGAL. The World is watching...
Dear Portugal.
The world is watching.
Awaiting, with baited breath.
For whatever reasons, you have allowed the masquerade to go on for far too long.
You permitted an obvious and tangible interference, from the British Security services and its Government right from the start of this case, from the very night Madeleine McCann was reported as missing.
You allowed its mandarins to dictate the course of the investigation.
worth reading the rest in the link above
Places where the body may be, from TVI24:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.tvi24.iol.pt/videos/video/14135132/1
http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-luz-braced-for-%E2%80%9Cearth-diggers-everywhere%E2%80%9D
ReplyDeleteMADELEINE: LUZ BRACED FOR “EARTH DIGGERS EVERYWHERE”
According to the latest tabloid stories coming out of UK, Metropolitan police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are about to start digging in three areas in Praia da Luz - the holiday village from where the three-year-old went missing in 2007.
The Daily Mirror promises “earth diggers everywhere” and claims “it will be very dramatic”, while the Daily Mail adds that police will “not specifically be looking for a body” but more “hoping to rule possible scenarios out as well as find new information”.
The news follows endless stories of very different potential suspects - the latest of whom appears to be 77-year-old paedophile Roderick Robinson who jumped bail on child molestation charges in Australia and has since apparently changed his name and fled to the Far East.
The fact that Robinson was arrested on Olhão campsite in 2010 - three years after Madeleine went missing - is reported in the Daily Mail as being of vital interest to Metropolitan Police.
Meantime the Met is said to be waiting for the go-ahead from its Portuguese counterparts before forensic teams can start digging up areas in Luz.
Both the Daily Mail and Daily Mirror mention three sites - two near the Ocean Club resort where Madeleine and her family were staying, and one on the beach.
But the prospect of “diggers everywhere” just as the seaside village starts filling up with tourists for the summer season does not seem to be troubling Luz residents - few of whom are taking the story seriously.
“This is beyond parody,” said a former RAF navigator who has been following the mystery intently since 2007.
“But what this latest story would seem to suggest is that the abduction theory is now well and truly out the window.
“We’ve had so many people suspected of abducting the child, but none of them were thought to have been in the possession of heavy-duty earth-digging equipment when they did so.”
http://portugalresident.com/update-madeleine-%E2%80%9Cearth-diggers-everywhere%E2%80%9D-an-exaggeration
ReplyDeleteUPDATE: MADELEINE: “EARTH-DIGGERS EVERYWHERE” AN EXAGGERATION
A little more than a day after UK tabloids suggested earth-diggers would be “everywhere” in a heightened police search for Madeleine McCann in Praia da Luz, Sky News has reported that it is “unlikely” that high-profile excavations will take place during the busy tourist season.
Reporter Martin Brunt said it was much more probable that ground penetrating radar equipment would be used, and in a way that “would not be obvious” to passers-by.
The update comes as Portuguese police are reported to have sanctioned the Met's request for searches 'on the ground' and in stark contrast to reports in the Daily Mail and Daily Mirror - both of which suggested the holiday village would soon be turned upside down by fleets of JCB earth-movers “looking for clues” .
The Daily Mail claimed excavations would “not specifically be looking for a body” but more “hoping to rule out possible scenarios”.
Areas involved could include scrubland near the primary school - alongside which an Irish family are reported to have passed a man carrying a child on the night Madeleine was reported missing - and a road leading down from the Ocean Club complex, which was being dug up for new pipework when the McCanns first arrived on holiday.
Residents following this fast-developing story are intrigued. Said a former policeman: “Bearing in mind it is extremely difficult to bury a body at short notice in hard ground, this suggests that police are looking for something buried before May 3.
“Once Madeleine was reported missing, the village was crawling with journalists and search teams for weeks. No one could have buried anything.”
A former RAF navigator who has been following the story since 2007 added: “This certainly seems to have knocked the abduction theory into the long grass.
“We’ve had so many people suspected of abducting the child, but none of them were thought to have been in the possession of heavy-duty earth-digging equipment when they did so.”
Anonymous 7 May 2014 07:48:00
DeleteThank you for your updates.
Like readers to note: “This certainly seems to have knocked the abduction theory into the long grass."
And: "probable that ground penetrating radar equipment would be used, and in a way that “would not be obvious” to passers-by.."
Basically saying, we're looking for a DEAD body. You won't be seeing us looking but we will be doing just that. So please don't ask nor be curious about where we are looking on a particular day, we just are. Results? Well, we are looking aren't we?
To my recollection this is the first time that the Portugal Resident has printed a story with references to anonymous quotes which implicate the McCanns. What does "ruling out possible scenarios" mean? If they indeed are conducting a proper investigation, does it mean they are looking for a location where the body had been placed temporarily? And if that's the case how is ground penetrating radar going to help if the body is no longer there? They tell us that the radar equipment is going to be used in such a way that it is not going to be obvious to passers by, so why tell us that you're going to be using the equipment in the first place? Why tell us you're going to be digging? It makes no sense whatsoever?
DeleteE tudo treta.
About roadworks:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FABIO_MARQUES.htm
Mr. Amaral dealt with roadworks in his book.
Only Danny Collins has written that Maddie could have wandered off, but in his version, submitted for approval by Mitchell, she was taken by gypsies.
Sun today
ReplyDeleteKate had dream of where to dig
Police ready to dig up a hillside where distraught KM dreamt missing Maddie had been placed.
This I think refers to the dream she shared with Paiva in 2007, the one Gerry later denied.
It's all getting very silly
Guardian today
ReplyDeleteSandra Laville and Josh Halliday
"Police to use radar in search for M"
"Individuals identified IN UK likely to be questioned"
Note IN UK not by UK!
Also understood that individuals' names are included in ILORs.... And could include some or all of these people (who?) being questioned (present continous tense) in connection with the disappearance of MM."
It says Kate goes to the resort every year to feel closer to her daughter "I"ll still walk THOSE STREETS"
Maybe Kate is giving us a clue. Her daughter was in a nearby street after her death?
This is a charade to whitewash the real criminals. I don't believe the girl was buried near the streets of PDL or in any place easily acessed by anyone. This did not make sense. After May 3, this places were packed by journalists and anonymous people, and after 7 years, the remains will have been exposed by a dog or by the rain.
ReplyDeleteIf she was buried, must be in a house, a garden or in a special location in the Golf.
After all the help the Mccann's had in 2007, I think she was already transfered to UK.
Madeleine must be very well hidden for the McCanns to be as arrogant as they are, she will not be buried anywhere where they are digging the McCanns would have ensured that Madeleine is never found. Dead Maddie = no more fund money = no more carter ruck.
ReplyDeleteShe is probably buried somewhere like the basement of what would have been a rented or empty house back in May 2007 in pdl with the aid of that estate agent Murat who flew out to pdl in a rush to go to the aid of his swinging friends who were desperate not to be exposed for the swingers that the rest of the world suspects they are.
Anonymous 7 May 2014 17:20:00,
DeleteUnderstand your words but the way your comment is written it can be read that swinging is a crime.
Swinging is not a crime. Not illegal and as it's of private nature between consenting adults its not up to others to approve or disapprove.
The fact that society is judgemental about it is what led to this mess in the first place. If swingers felt they had nothing to hide, then nothing of this cover-up would have happened.
The idea is not to expose them for swingers but for having obstructed justice. They are only accountable for that and nothing else.
Avoiding to express derogatory comments about legitimate sexual options made by individuals is a small step each of us can take to avoid things like this from ever happening again.
I agree swinging is not a crime, but this group through their actions have made it a crime. If it had been exposed for what it was ‘swinging’ it could have done untold damage to their professions and ultimately the NHS. High profile individuals involved or been involved with the swinging would have been exposed and I agree Society would be judgemental. It’s all about preserving reputations and ultimately never naming names which is the purpose of the fund to protect the guilty. When Kate was first made a suspect one of her comments was ‘what will my parents say/think’ which considering the circumstances is such an odd comment to make unless you are guilty of something and which suggests she felt awkward for whatever circumstances led to Madeleine’s disappearance being revealed. No feelings towards Madeleine’s fate just her own selfish self. All through this case the Mccanns have relied on the media to mislead the public with misinformation. I despair now when I read the utter rubbish printed about Madeleine McCann, if Amaral had been left to do his job without interference this case would have reached its rightful climax years ago. It was so important to this group that their sexual act ivies were not revealed they went so far as to introduce the Gaspars paedophile statements into the saga to create more confusion. IMO this was a clear case of swinging in a quite pdl fishing village out of season where everybody minded their own business and the coming and goings of adults were never questioned and where crime was practically nonexistent, but their actions have now made pdl appear to be the paedophile capitol of the world where no child is safe. Through their reckless unchecked behaviour and the ensuing cover-up this group have destroyed a once picturesque village and the livelihoods of the many. The root of this crime is swinging once that has been established everything else will slot into place.
DeleteIt's perfectly natural and healthy to be 'judgemental'. Drinking's not a 'crime' but these two selfish bastards would've covered up their kid's death even if that's all they were 'guilty' of. If they dumped their kids to indulge in abject adult selfishness, then, hey, judge away.
DeleteAnonymous 8 May 2014 22:16:00,
DeleteThe word "abject" is totally uncalled for. Swinging is in no way abject.
The children were not dumped. It wasn't a family holiday. It was an adult holiday. Obviously the children could not be left with relatives who would ask questions and be just like you and think, wrongly swinging abject.
The children's time was planned and organised by professionals. They were not dumped but taken care of.
We ask readers to keep their judgemental comments to themselves.
And insult also.
Thank you
I have just seen the TVI24 video posted by anon 7 May 2014 07:44:00.
ReplyDeleteI'm stunned!
SY asked for house searches on former OC workers just because they were OC workers?!?
Is that the core of the 278 requests from 3rd rog letter? To hope to find out if someone kept a souvenir from Maddie after killing her? And being a worker makes a person suspect enough to have their house searched? What next, all Luz residents?
I've seen actors on stage who have forgotten their lines completely look less desperate than SY. What a pathetic circus
Recusadas buscas domiciliárias no caso Maddie - País - Notícias - RTP
Deletehttp://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=735673&tm=8&layout=122&visual=61
This digging nonsense will come to nothing, it will never happen, I suspect...I heard today in the RTP news that the SY demand the reassurance from the portuguese police that they will be able to do their "searches" without "curious" eyes around (I suppose the media and the locals). It seems they want to "work" alone...does this mean NO PJ around too...?
ReplyDeleteOf course, that is a request that will be almost impossible for the PJ to fulfill...when the PJ wanted the McCanns and friends to come for a reconstruction, that was also one of the conditions imposed by Tapas 9, no media circus around Luz, or they would not participate. And...what happened? No reconstruction made! I have the feeling that the same will happen now, the SY will cancel it all and put the blame on the portuguese police for not being able to provide them with "suitable" work conditions.
If I were the PJ, I wouldn't agree to SY searching on their own. Who knows what they might " find".
ReplyDeleteIf they have specific intelligence about where to dig, it should be passed to the PJ. If they don't and it's guesswork, or just a show for the UK, it's the most appalling misuse of taxpayers' money.
Are they providing their own shovels, or are the Portuguese taxpayers providing them? Andy doesn't look fit enough to dig holes.
Anonymous 8 May 2014 08:19:00,
DeleteAccording to TVI24 (link provided by Anonymous 7 May 2014 07:44:00), the UK taxpayers that are paying for it all.
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/videos/video/14135132/1
The McCanns need to prepare themselves to be the new Ian Brady and Myra Hindley once Madeleine's body is unearthed and the truth comes out about their involvement in the child's death and body concealment such will be the revulsion of the public world-wide.
DeleteAnon 15:27, are you suggesting that SY is going to find Maddie's body in Praia da Luz?
DeleteAnonymous 8 May 2014 15:27:00,
DeleteIt seems to us abusive the comparison between Ian Brady and Myra Hindley with Gerry and Kate. It's highly disrespectful with the suffering of the victims of the first.
And we are absolutely sure Maddie's body won't be unearthed. It is not buried in Luz or anywhere.
Thank you
Textusa - Without being facile (I hope) do you think the body of Maddie is not 'anywhere' but cremated? The absolute horror of the McCann-act never seems to leave its 'jolt' - its mark - when it comes to the human disrespect it displays. (Sorry, I don't have no other words)
Deletehttp://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/investigacao-scotland-yard-aviso-maddie-mau-estar-buscas/1554420-4071.html
ReplyDeleteMaddie: PJ deixa aviso à Scotland Yard
Sociedade
Judiciária pede à polícia inglesa que pare de divulgar informações para evitar o mediatismo e prejudicar as investigações
Por: Redacção / Marisa Rodrigues | 2014-05-08 13:40
A polícia britânica e a Polícia Judiciária estão esta quinta-feira reunidas em Faro para acertar detalhes sobre como vão ser feitas as buscas e as escavações na praia da Luz, no âmbito do caso Maddie.
Antes da reunião, a comitiva da Scotland Yard, liderada pelo inspetor chefe Andy Redwood, esteve num café da baixa de Faro, onde já era esperada por jornalistas britânicos, num claro cenário preparado. À saída, o responsável recusou falar: «Desculpem. Hoje não fazemos comentários. Obrigado.»
Em cima da mesa está um balanço do que já feito e sobretudo o acerto dos pormenores do que ainda há para fazer. O mais importante passo: as buscas e escavações em terrenos na praia da Luz. Diligências aceites pelo Ministério Público de Portimão e que a PJ vai ter de cumprir.
Os detetives da Scotland Yard querem perceber em que moldes podem ser feitas e se vão conseguir recorrer a cães pisteiros e a um georradar para tentar encontrar o corpo da criança. A data destas ações ainda não está marcada.
Estão também previstas inquirições a oito testemunhas consideradas de interesse para a investigação.
A reunião de hoje acontece numa altura em que é evidente o mal-estar entre as duas polícias. A PJ pediu à Scotland Yard que parasse de divulgar informações para evitar o mediatismo e prejudicar as investigações, sob pena de não avançar com os trabalhos em Portugal.
http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2014-05-08-inspetores-ingleses-que-investigam-caso-maddie-estao-no-algarve;jsessionid=C3E06F69A4861CF8BC9793EA4DDB7209
ReplyDeleteIt's 6 of them!
What will an aerial view show after 7 years? Vegetation grows, disturbed ground may be animal activity.
ReplyDeleteSurely not this expense on a speculative exploration?
If someone had confessed, they would be more precise on location.
Well, it's the Poruguese air force helicopter that Redwood is flying in, so they can't say Portugal isn't helping.
ReplyDeleteThe whole scale of this is unbelievable. Which other missing child has warranted this circus?
Even the kidnapped 200 girls in Nigeria, who are findable, aren't receiving a fraction of this attention.
Who will foot the bill for the fuse of the portuguese air force helicopter...? the fuel alone is a small fortune!
DeleteThank you for mentioning the Nigerian girls, they are in desperate need for help, and STILL CAN be helped, most of them ,at least!
Helicóptero da Força aérea sobrevoa a PDL para reconhecimento dos terrenos à volta do OC onde a SY pensa ter sido enterrado o corpo de Maddie. Então para a SY, Maddie está morta e morreu em Maio de 2007. O que é que vão fazer ao Fundo? Dar o dinheiro para ajudar outras associações de crianças desaparecidas?
ReplyDeleteInfelizmente, sem "prova provada" (cadáver) de morte, e sem ser declarada oficialmente como morta, e parece que nem os pais, nem a Honorável Juíza Hogg,que supostamente é quem tem a custódia legal de Madeleine, pretendem fazê-lo, o fundo poderá continuar a existir, para a proporcionar a bonança financeira dos McCann & "extended family"...
DeleteGrande fantochada com helicópteros e tudo. A PDL é tão grande e o espaço a reconhecer tão extenso, que é preciso este circo. Só espero que sejam os UK a pagar. A seguir, para terem a certeza que todo o mundo viu, chamem o "Homem aranha", o " Super homem", o " Hulk", o " Capitão América " e toda a esquadrilha da " Marvel" . Assim, saberemos que Redwoooooood está a fazer tudo, mas mesmo tudo para encontrar Maddie e.....que não partiu para esta aventura com um roteiro pré- traçado e sabendo perfeitamente qual era o final. É que dizem as mãs línguas que esta semana, quando se
ReplyDeleteencontraram com a PJ, vieram acompanhados de uma armada de jornalistas britânicos que cheirava tudo, mas mesmo tudo a " Pré-combinação". Desde que consumam muitas sardinhas e bejecas, deixá-los saborear o sol da PDL e ajudar ao "Faz de conta"