Gonçalo Amaral on CdM: "Enough with the lies" - comments continue II
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Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 27 Oct 2020, 10:30:00”
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This article is only available to online subscribers. This is what can be read publicly:
In Portuguese:
“PJ junta polícias inglesa e alemã em encontro secreto para encontrar Maddie
ADN não coloca suspeito no apartamento, mas há provas de envolvimento em outros crimes.
Tânia Laranjo e Paulo João Santos 01:30
O encontro foi secreto e decorreu recentemente na Polícia Judiciária de Lisboa. Juntou as autoridades inglesas e alemãs e teve como objectivo reunir provas para encontrar Madeleine McCann. Para já, os dados continuam a ser circunstanciais, mas os alemães já levaram os elementos de outros 2 processos, que permitem…”
Our translation:
“PJ joins English and German police in secret meeting to find Maddie
DNA does not place a suspect in the apartment, but there is evidence of involvement in other crimes.
Tânia Laranjo and Paulo João Santos 01:30
The meeting was secret and it took place recently in Lisbon’s PJ. It joined the English and German authorities and had as objective gathering evidence to find Madeleine McCann. For now, the data remains circumstantial, but the Germans have already taken the elements of two other processes, which allow...”
Unpublished Anonymous at 27 Oct 2020, 09:10:00 (comment submitted to previous post)
We are not publishing your post, however tempting it would to do so.
The bullies are provoking, trying to get a reaction which they can report to the police. We believe that publishing your comment would play into their hands.
About the content, is it really a surprise? We don’t think it was. Only the confirmation of what we all knew.
Joana Morais sent me the newspaper article published October 27 and which we mentioned in our comment at 27 Oct 2020, 11:05:00. We then said that the article was an online exclusive and we were wrong, as it was published that day in the paper edition.
Here is our translation of what was published in the CdM paper edition of October 27:
Front page:
NEW ADVANCES IN THE INVESTIGATION
SECRET MEETING TO FIND MADDIE
ENGLISH AND GERMAN POLICE AT PJ’S HEADQUARTERS OF THE JUDICIAL PGS 12 AND 13
- PJ hands-over evidence of the main suspect’s involvement in other crimes - BRUECKNER tried to abduct two children in 2017
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Main article:
Secret meeting to find Madeleine
LEADS - DNA does not place suspect in the apartment, but there is evidence of involvement in other crimes
TÂNIA LARANJO / PAULO JOÃO SANTOS
The meeting was secret and it took place recently in Lisbon’s PJ. It brought together English and German authorities and had as objective the gathering of evidence to find Madeleine McCann. For now, the data remains circumstantial, but the Germans have already taken the elements of two other cases, which allow Christian Brueckner, the main suspect in Maddie's disappearance, to be maintained in prison.
The objective is to be able to draw a profile of the German, that will help the authorities to understand how he will have disposed of the body, after having abducted the English girl in the Ocean Club.
The searches in the basement where the man lived for several years revealed nothing, nor even did the DNA profiles collected in the apartment where the child disappeared place the suspect at the scene of the crime. But several witnesses have already been heard that indicate that Christian Brueckner knew the Ocean Club well and knew about Maddie's parents' routines.
For the German authorities, there is little doubt that it was Christian Brueckner who killed Maddie, after kidnapping her, but the biggest thing left to know remains the place where the body was hidden.
At the meeting that took place recently in our country, the PJ reported all the diligences it did in the Algarve, namely the searches carried out in various places and which proved to be unsuccessful. Wells and holes were finely combed, but there was no sign of any of the girl’s remains.
The German authorities asked the PJ for details of two other cases, which could allow to maintain suspect in prison for several years. For now, the German is serving time for the rape of an American woman in Praia da Luz – a seven year sentence - but he could soon be accused of a rape in 2004 and an attempt to kidnap two children in 2017. Both crimes occurred in the Algarve.
Portuguese, English and Germans do not give up on the investigation and for now continue to try to gather information about the suspect's past. It is essential to understand the routines in 2007, when Maddie disappeared, at the same time that Christian Brueckner lived nearby
[Inserted in the text of the article: SEARCHES TO THE BASEMENT HAVE NOT HELPED TO CLARIFY DISAPPEARANCE and PJ GAVE DATA THAT ALLOW GERMANS TO KEEP BRUECKNER IN JAIL]
[Photo caption: Kate McCann, with the doll her daughter used, always spoke about abduction.]
SECRET - Friend said that Brueckner confessed to the crime in 2008. But he only revealed it eight years later.
The Brueckner investigation was born out of a coffee conversation. Helge Busching, who met the German when Maddie disappeared, in Praia da Luz, Lagos, says the suspect revealed to him having been involved in the child's disappearance in 2008.
Busching, who helped convict Brueckner for violating the 73-year-old American woman - stole from him the camera he used to film the crime - gave name of the German to the English police in 2017, on the 10th anniversary of the girl's disappearance .
He assures that Brueckner told him, during a festival in Spain, when they were in a cafe, that he had been involved in the disappearance. Nine years later, after Busching was arrested for immigrant trafficking in Greece, he said he wanted to speak to the British police. In Athens, when asked what he thought of Brueckner, regarding Maddie, he replied: Guilty.
The suspicions were later passed on to the Portuguese police, who managed to place Brueckner’s the cell phone in the vicinity of the crime scene. It was Busching who revealed the number that the friend used at the time.
[Inserted in the text of the article: KNEW THE NUMBER OF THE MOBILE PHONE THE GERMAN USED IN 2007
[Photo captions: - Camper used by Brueckner when he was in Luz, in 2007. - Germans have already searched several places, looking for clues.]
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Other articles:
WARRANT - WAS RELEASED The two children who were harassed by Brueckner in 2017 say they saw him masturbate near a slide while playing. They called the parents, the man was arrested, but although he had a pending arrest warrant, he was released and escaped with impunity.
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PJ - INTENSE COLLABORATION The PJ has collaborated intensively with the English and German authorities. There is an exchange of elements and also a lot of information that is worked jointly to try to understand where Madeleine McCann may be. The Germans have already guaranteed that the girl is dead.
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PARENTS - SEARCHES NEAR THE BEACH An image showing Maddie's father, hours after her disappearance, by the beach, in the area of the resort, raised suspicions to the authorities. At the time, the couple claimed that the girl had been abducted, but the Englishman seems to be looking for a body. That was one of the leads that was followed.
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COFFIN - INCINERATED BODY ANOTHER OF THE LEADS THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY THE PJ AT THE TIME WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF MADDIE'S BODY TO HAVE BEEN PLACED IN A COFFIN AND HAVE BEEN INCINERATED.
Mother was arguida The PJ even followed the line that Maddie was accidentally killed by her mother, and Kate was constituted arguido for negligent homicide. She was never accused.
Contaminated scenario When the PJ arrived at the room where the girl slept in 2007, the scene had already been contaminated. Tens of people had been at the site and tens of DNA profiles were collected.
Case reopened After being archived, the case was reopened and the case was sent to the Porto’s PJ who became in charge of reading all the documents. The objective was to try to find new lines of investigation. It was only then that the hypothesis of the girl's abduction and death gained strength.
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SIMILARITIES LED AUTHORITIES TO MOVE FORWARD The similarities between the rape of an Irish female in 2004 and the case of the American woman that led to Brueckner's conviction led the PJ to reopen the case and send the evidence to Germany.
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SUSPECTED ABUSE OF 10 YEARS CHILD Christian Bruecker is also suspect of another sexual abuse of a 10-year-old German child, on a beach, in the Algarve, in Portugal, in the same year that Maddie disappeared.
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SEXUAL HARASSMENT GOES TO JUDGMENT Also going to trial in Germany is a case of sexual harassment that involved two children in a playground in São Bartolomeu de Messines, in the Algarve. It was in 2017.
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Arrived in the Algarve with just 18 years Christian Brueckner, 43, spent more than a decade living in Portugal and left the country shortly after Maddie's disappearance. He arrived in the Algarve in 1995, at the age of 18. He lived in a camper that was seized.
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Photo captions: 1 - Maddie was sleeping with her twin siblings, in Praia da Luz, when she disappeared 2 - Resort where the girl slept was, at the time, combed finely by the PJ 3 - Authorities have been doing several searches in recent years to try to find any lead 4 - German police made excavations near a place where Brueckner lived. Found nothing
The secret meeting in September was at PJ HQ in Lisbon, with German and English police, to exchange information about Brueckner.
It seems to have allowed the German authorities to gather elements relating to 2 other cases which could keep the suspect in prison for several years.
The meeting reportedly had the objective of drawing a profile of Brueckner, in order to understand how he got rid of Maddie’s body.
However, the 2 cases refer to the rape of Hazel B, where is has since been established that Brueckner’s DNA didn’t match and the Salema beach incident in 2007, where a man carried out an indecent act in front of 10 year old Joana E.
In the latter case, the girl couldn’t identify Brueckner as the man from photographs.
Neither case involve abduction or intent to abduct. We cannot see how either will shed any light as to how Maddie’s body was disposed, even if there was solid proof that Brueckner was linked to either or both.
The fact that there is no proof that he was involved in either makes it all even more absurd.
The Irish authorities were represented at the September ECJ hearing by J Quaney and M Gray, QC. This must relate to their interest in the case of Hazel B, although the published hearing transcript makes no reference to that case.
The article seems to confirm that it was Helge B who gave Brueckner’s mobile number to the police, who then traced the call as being made in the general area of PdL.
It also confirms that the number was not in the PJ files of 2007 relating to the Maddie case.
Isn’t it likely that the mystery caller that night was Helge B himself, as he did say he was living in the area at the time?
HOPES DASHED Madeleine McCann’s parents face new heartache as prosecutors say suspect Christian B may not be charged until next year
Nick Pisa 2 Nov 2020, 16:32 Updated: 2 Nov 2020, 16:33
MADELEINE McCann's parents face fresh heartache after prosecutors revealed they would not be charging the prime suspect until next year at the earliest.
Convicted rapist and paedophile Christian B, 43, was identified as the man responsible for the three-year old's kidnap and murder by the German authorities in June.
Kate and Gerry hoped it would mark the end of their 13 year agony at not knowing what had happened to their beloved daughter but now their hopes have been dashed.
Speaking exclusively to The Sun, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters admitted leads had dried up and there would be no developments this year, with charges unlikely before the Spring and only if they find more evidence.
He said: ''I cannot say how long our investigation will go on for but I know there will be no developments this year, in 2020. We had hoped to charge him but that has not been possible.
''Maybe we hope to have something by the Spring of 2021, maybe it could take longer but certainly nothing this year.
''We have some evidence against our suspect but it is not strong enough. We have proof that he was involved and that he killed Madeleine but it's not strong enough to charge him.
''We need more evidence and more witnesses but if we don't get them then the case may drop but we hope that will not happen and he will be charged.''
His downbeat comments are in contrast to June where he announced in a headline grabbing news conference he had ''concrete evidence'' Maddie was dead.
He added: ''So long as we have something to investigate then we will investigate but if no witnesses come forward then we will have to come to an end but at the moment I can't see this point.
"It may be that we have to make another appeal to see if we can get any more tips.
''We have not been in touch with Madeleine's parents other than a few months ago when we made the announcement of our investigation because there is no need to."
Last month Christian B's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher - who insists his client is innocent - called on prosecutors to reveal their evidence to be ''fair'' to his client and the McCann family.
He added: ''The prosecutor has not revealed anything to us about the investigation.
"They are adamant but they are chasing someone who is just convenient to them.''
Madeleine disappeared from her holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast in May 2007.
Christian B - who has convictions for rape and child abuse - is currently serving 21 months for drug offences in Germany's Kiel prison.
At the end of last month we reported how Scotland Yard detectives reportedly held a secret meeting with German and Portuguese police in Lisbon in a bid to find Madeleine.
The aim of the conference was to fine-tune suspect Christian B's profile to try to work out where the child’s body may have been buried after she was kidnapped, with German cops believing she is dead.
The meeting is said to have taken place “recently” at the Lisbon HQ of the Policia Judiciaria (PJ), the force heading the Portuguese probe into the three-year-old's disappearance, reports daily newspaper Correio da Manha.
Three wells near Praia da Luz are known to have been searched in July but police and firefighters failed to find any trace of Madeleine.
German authorities are treating the case as a murder inquiry and say they have concrete evidence the missing youngster is dead - but have yet to reveal what this evidence they have.
The abandoned wells are a 15-minute drive from Christian B's rented cottage on the outskirts of Praia de Luz, on a narrow road leading down to a beach where the paedophile used to park his VW camper van.
Christian B is also being probed in Germany over a 2004 Algarve rape and a sex attack on a beach near Praia da Luz a month before Madeleine vanished.
In Portugal, prosecutors have reopened their investigation into a sex crime in a playground he was arrested over in 2017.
He was held on suspicion of exposing himself to young children at a playground in Sao Bartolomeu de Messines a 40-minute drive from Praia de Luz.
Police discovered after his detention that he was wanted by Germany on an international arrest warrant for child sex abuse and possession of child pornography.
He was extradited to his homeland and was never prosecuted in Portugal following his Algarve arrest.
The criminal probe was mothballed despite protests from the youngsters’ angry parents but reopened in September.
OG are out of the investigation now, unless they decide to look for another suspect.
How would they ever find a better fit than Brueckner? He was their “discovery” in the first place but the German authorities seem to have taken over the case.
Portugal have done what was requested. They have searched the wells and found nothing.
Normally, when police have “proof”, as Wolters calls it, surely the next step would be to question the suspect?
Under interrogation, suspects sometimes slip up and reveal incriminating information.
The answer to this rhetorical question seems to be the reluctance of the German prosecutor to make the evidence/proof available to the suspect and his lawyer.
Only when that information is made available can the strength of the evidence be tested.
One day, Brueckner will be used as a case-study: if one is to ever build a patsy for whatever reason, Brueckner is the polar-opposite of what should be done to achieve that.
‘SO BAD’ ‘Shocked’ Madeleine McCann cops claim German prosecutors have ‘no evidence’ Christian B snatched toddler in leaked memo
Nick Pisa 9 Nov 2020, 13:56 Updated: 9 Nov 2020, 13:56
AN international row broke out today as a leaked memo reveals Portuguese cops have rubbished a German probe into Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
Local officers insisted counterparts in Germany have no solid evidence that prime suspect Christian B was involved in snatching the British toddler in 2007.
Officials from the Policia Judiciaria in Portugal, Germany's BKA and Scotland Yard met to discuss the state of the probe.
In June, the convicted rapist and paedophile was identified by German cops as the prime suspect for Madeleine's disappearance in Portugal 13 years ago.
Prosecutors said they had ''concrete evidence'' she was dead but since then there has been no significant development in the long running saga, leaving parents Kate and Gerry facing an agonising uncertainty.
Now a leaked memo from the Policia Judiciaria, seen by The Sun, has revealed dismissive comments made in an internal email following the top secret conference in Lisbon.
In it an unidentified Portuguese officer claimed that the German BKA have no solid leads and are just holding the suspect in jail in the hope they can make two other sex cases against him stick.
He wrote: ''There is no evidence, just speculation. When reading the German case I was shocked. I never thought that the BKA would investigate so badly.
"It is not a serious and objective investigation, but only just to keep the suspect in prison at all costs.
''The meeting was to get the point of the situation, the BKA wants to investigate the other two cases of possible sexual harassment, so that the suspect does not leave prison until the end of the year and they will drop the suspect.''
Portuguese cops have been accused of bungling the investigation and lead officer Goncalo Amaral was later fired after pursuing a false theory that Kate and Gerry were responsible.
Christian B is currently in jail after being convicted of raping a 72 year old woman in Praia da Luz in 2005 - two years before the Brit youngster vanished from the same resort in May 2007 aged three.
He was given seven years but is appealing. German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters hit back at the Portuguese cops, saying: "We don't want to comment on this.
"The accused will have to stay in prison for the next few years anyway."
Last month Christian B's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher - who insists his client is innocent - called on prosecutors to reveal their evidence to be ''fair'' to his client and the McCann family.
He added: ''The prosecutor has not revealed anything to us about the investigation.
"They are adamant but they are chasing someone who is just convenient to them.''
Madeleine disappeared from her holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast.
Three wells near the resort are known to have been searched in July but police and firefighters failed to find any trace of Madeleine.
The abandoned wells are a 15-minute drive from Christian B's rented cottage on the outskirts of Praia de Luz, on a narrow road leading down to a beach where the paedophile used to park his VW camper van.
Christian B is also being probed in Germany over a 2004 Algarve rape and a sex attack on a beach near Praia da Luz a month before Madeleine vanished.
In Portugal, prosecutors have reopened their investigation into a sex crime in a playground he was arrested over in 2017.
He was held on suspicion of exposing himself to young children at a playground in Sao Bartolomeu de Messines a 40-minute drive from Praia de Luz.
Police discovered after his detention that he was wanted by Germany on an international arrest warrant for child sex abuse and possession of child pornography.
He was extradited to his homeland and was never prosecuted in Portugal following his Algarve arrest.
The criminal probe was mothballed despite protests from the youngsters’ angry parents but reopened in September.
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The PJ won’t accept the case against Brueckner. Why aren’t we surprised?
“…that the German BKA have no solid leads and are just holding the suspect in jail in the hope they can make two other sex cases against him stick. He wrote: ''There is no evidence, just speculation. When reading the German case I was shocked. I never thought that the BKA would investigate so badly. It is not a serious and objective investigation, but only just to keep the suspect in prison at all costs.””
'CELL ATTACK' Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B ‘suffers broken ribs after being attacked in cell’ ahead of parole hearing
Exclusive Nick Pisa 16 Nov 2020, 16:34 Updated: 17 Nov 2020, 1:34
THE Madeleine McCann prime suspect needed hospital treatment after claiming he was attacked in a German court cell.
Convicted rapist and paedophile Christian B, 43, was treated for two broken ribs yesterday, saying he was assaulted as he waited ahead of a parole hearing.
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher claimed he had been hurt by officials and he would be filing charges - but the court insisted he had ''fallen over''.
Police were said to have been called to the court to deal with the incident and the suspect was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.
Last night a spokesperson for the court said: ''The exact sequence of events is now the subject of investigation.
"Against this background, we cannot comment on the details.''
Christian B was identified by German police as the man responsible for Madeleine's abduction and murder in May 2007.
Yesterday he was driven from prison in Kiel, two hours south to Braunschweig court where he appeared for a parole hearing in his first public appearance.
He is currently serving 21 months for drug offences but he is eligible for parole on January 6 after serving two thirds of his sentence.
Wearing a white mask he was driven into the back of the court building flanked by two police officers before being escorted into the building for the hearing.
A source at the court said: ''The hearing was to decide on whether he can have parole for the drugs case.
''Technically he can be freed in early January as he has served his time but the prosecution is opposing it because of the outstanding Madeleine McCann investigation.''
Madeleine, three, was taken from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast in May 2007.
This year investigators in Germany claimed they had solved the world's most famous missing person's mystery.
They say they have "concrete evidence" she is dead and believe Christian B abducted and murdered her.
He was known to spend time in the area around the resort and was arrested on other matters.
Last December the suspect was also sentenced to seven years in jail for raping a 72-year-old American woman near Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine vanished.
He took his case to the European Court of Justice earlier this year but it was thrown out .
He is expected to serve the full term although his lawyers are appealing the verdict.
It means he will not be released even if he wins parole in the drugs case.
Last week we revealed German investigators vowed to "fight tooth and nail" to convict Christian B for Madeleine's murder.
It came after Portuguese cops rubbished their investigation and claimed they have no real evidence.
Madeleine McCann suspect's ribs broken in cell as he's seen in public for first time
Christian Brueckner's defence lawyer has reportedly claimed his client was hurt by officials but the court insists he fell over as he waited in a holding cell to appear in court related to a drugs charge
By Joseph WilkesReporter, James King, Andy Lines &Rob Hyde 19:34, 16 NOV 2020
Madeleine McCann prime suspect Christian Brueckner has reportedly broken two ribs in an incident as he was being taken to court today.
The convicted rapist and paedophile was taken to hospital in an ambulance after suffering the injuries as he was being taken to court for his first public appearance since he was named as a suspect in the disappearance of the British toddler.
The 43-year-old was due to appear before German judges to apply for parole in relation to a drugs case that he is involved in.
He is currently serving 21 months for drug-related offences and is eligible for release on January 6, having served two-thirds of his sentence.
He was driven from the German prison in Kiel to the courtroom in Braunschweig some 300km - roughly 186 miles - away for a hearing.
But before the behind closed doors session could start shortly after midday, he ended up being hospitalised and was taken in an ambulance with a blue light where it was later revealed he had apparently broken two ribs.
He had arrived more than an hour before his case was due to be heard, and was kept in a holding cell where the incident happened that resulted in him suffering broken ribs.
The ambulance arrived to take him to the hospital 40 minutes after he arrived.
Eyewitnesses report saying that a prison guard in the entrance greeted the medics telling them: "Somebody's been rioting in there."
He was in the emergency room for an hour before being led back to court with both handcuffs on his wrists and shackles on his feet and the hearing then continued some two hours late.
Court officials have refused to discuss the incident, saying that an investigation was underway.
Brueckner's defence lawyer Friedrich Fuelscher, 36, was heard loudly arguing with prison guards about video footage of the incident from a camera watching the cell where he was being kept.
It is unclear what this has to do with the fact that he was injured or how he was injured.
Meanwhile, the Sun reports Mr Fuelscher claimed his client had been hurt by officials and he would be filing charges.
But the court insisted Brueckner had ''fallen over'' while waiting in the cell downstairs, the paper reports.
Brueckner's appearance in court was a surprise one today.
He was named by German police earlier this year as the prime suspect in Maddie's abduction after mobile phone records placed him in Praia da Luz on the night she vanished.
No press or members of the public were allowed into the the Chamber of Penalties court today.
Brueckner is at the centre of series of complex legal issues.
He is currently serving the sentence in the north German city of Kiel for drug dealing which ends on January 7.
And he has been convicted of the rape of a pensioner in Praia da Luz two years before three-year-old Maddie went missing in 2007 – but he is appealing the seven year sentence.
Maike Block-Cavallaro, spokeswoman for the Braunschweig Regional court confirmed the hearing was about Brueckner's sentence for drug trafficking.
Brueckner was returned for the hearing, If he had 2 broken ribs, why would he be shackled and returned to court?
We would have expected the hearing to be adjourned until he had recovered.
We all know that truth does not exactly follow the Maddie case – trying to pin the blame on him is one example – so we will remain sceptic about this episode. No, we’re not saying that it didn’t happen, we’re just leaving open every possibility.
Also, we are aware that it has been widely reported that he won’t be prosecuted regarding Maddie. The reader just has join that dot with the one of him being persistently finger pointed as Maddie’s abductor AND paedo-murderer to understand that to the less enlightened Brueckner is just another vile criminal about to get away with it.
They don’t question that the reason he’s not going to be prosecuted is because he didn’t do it. To them a “couple of broken ribs” befalls under the category of ‘getting what he deserves’. In fact, many will think he deserves a whole lot more.
That, is called lynching.
Lynching has material authors but it has also moral authors. Those who drove the material authors to commit said crime.
I could understand why CB might kick off if his appeal was turned down, but it’s unlikely a person as familiar as the court systems as he is would behave like this whilst his parole application was under consideration. His alleged behaviour doesn’t make sense.
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner 'had ribs broken after blocking cell toilet'
Convicted rapist and paedophile Christian Brueckner had two ribs broken by prison guards after throwing a "tantrum" around his cell and blocking the toilet before a hearing, reports say
by Berny Torre 09:59, 18 Nov 2020Updated10:00, 18 Nov 2020
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner had two ribs broken by prison guards after throwing "a tantrum" and blocking the toilet, reports say.
The convicted rapist and paedophile, 43, was seen for the first time in public on Monday since he was named by German police as the chief suspect in the three-year-old's 2007 disappearance in the Algarve.
He was rushed to hospital for treatment after he smearing his courthouse cell with yogurt and filling the toilet with loo roll.
He was due to appear before a judge in Braunschweig for a parole hearing on an unrelated drugs charge but 40 minutes after arriving he reacted furiously to being filmed and put in chains.
A source at the court told The Sun: "He got angry at being filmed and complained. He reacted angrily and when he refused to put the shackles on there was a more violent tussle and he hurt himself."
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher told the paper that the guards were filming him via a monitor and asked them to stop.
He added he had to get a judge to ensure the footage was deleted and has filed a criminal complaint against the guards for allegedly beating his client.
The court has claimed that Brueckner had "fallen over" after arriving at the court from his prison in Kiel and an investigation is underway.
Brueckner had been driven 186 miles from Kiel to Braunschweig for a parole hearing on his current 21-month drugs sentence.
He will have served two-thirds of his sentence in January and will be eligible for parole.
The criminal has been identified by German police as the prime suspect in Madeleine's abduction in Portugal 13 years ago.
We didn’t realise Germany shackled prisoners, like the USA does.
We still don’t understand why Brueckner would do this prior to an application for parole, knowing it would jeopardise his chances of parole being granted.
We can imagine CCTV recording the holding cell, as that happens in the UK but this seems to suggest the guards were filming him when they had no right to do so.
About the link between Brueckner and Maddie, if there was ever a situation where it would attempted to prove how a lie told a thousand times will become the truth, this would be it.
CB, pelo que se sabe, "admitiu" saber o que se tinha passado e deu a entender que poderia estar envolvido de alguma maneira no caso MBM. Isso é diferente de raptar e matar a criança. A haver um corpo, consequência de uma morte acidental, este teve de estar escondido em algum lado.. CB, pode muito bem ser o elo mais fraco desta história, eu não o dispensaria.
Could you please give us a link as to where Brueckner "admitted" knowing what had happened and where he implied he was involved in some way with the MBM case?
Na conversa de café que teve com o amigo em 2017. Eu acredito que de alguma forma CB esteve envolvido neste trama. Aparentemente ele não tem álibi para essa noite, e digamos que era o tipo de pessoa que faria o género de trabalho sujo. Como disse, a haver um corpo, teve de estar escondido temporariamente em algum lugar. CB conhecia o terreno, não tinha qualquer tipo de pudor, era conhecido no resort, precisava de € ou seja seria o tipo de pessoa a quem alguém eventualmente recorreria, se necessitasse. A ser, será uma pequena peça no grande puzzle. Não se lhe avizinha um futuro fácil, o que se seguirá às costelas partidas?!
A friend - that friend in particular - saying Brueckner admitted to something does not qualify as Brueckner admitting to anything.
The rest of you comment, is very, very pertinent and, as the Portuguese say, goes in the direction of Brueckner not admitting anything to anyone.
His possible link to the case - we believe it could be under similar circumstances of those regarding Euclides Monteiro - would have been made elsewhere, by someone who knew about his possible involvement and not by a petty criminal as was this particular friend.
Thank you very much for your comment. Much appreciated.
É verdade que não podemos confirmar se CB realmente o disse, é uma questão de acreditar ou não. A mim parece-me credível ele ter-se descaído num momento vulnerável. Quanto ao amigo, se o denunciou não foi por bom samaritanismo, mas sim porque de algum modo o quis tramar.
O que quer que tenha acontecido, envolveu um certo número de pessoas e não me parece nada descabido que CB faça parte desse grupo.
“The search was initially linked to the Madeleine McCann probe by the local German press. However, cops have since told The Sun that the operation was unconnected to the missing Brit girl or prime suspect Christian B.”
But even though the article states that it isn’t related to Maddie, do note how the article is all about Maddie.
We would say that the Brueckner “patsying” is on its consolidation stage: make the public automatically link him to Maddie like they do between Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK.
Madeleine McCann police ‘search a new property in Hanover with sniffer dogs’ - a week after Portuguese cops said they were 'shocked' by lack of evidence against main suspect
Police descended on the house near Hanover today after receiving a tip-off But the eight-hour search has brought no apparent breakthrough in the case Police searched a nearby allotment in July once used by Christian Brueckner
By Tim Stickings For Mailonline Published: 14:47 GMT, 18 November 2020 | Updated: 16:01 GMT, 18 November 2020
Madeleine McCann police were today searching a new property in Germany, local media said, months after her suspected kidnapper's nearby allotment was dug up in a search for evidence.
Officers equipped with sniffer dogs and a mobile police station descended on a house near Hanover, where suspect Christian Brueckner once lived, after receiving a tip-off from a member of the public.
Authorities did not reveal the nature of the tip-off, but local newspaper Neue Presse said it was linked to the Madeleine case.
However, the current residents of the house were found to be 'totally blameless' and the eight-hour search has yet to lead to a breakthrough.
Prosecutors told Calenberger Online News that the search had backed up their 'gut feeling' that the tip-off was wrong, while adding that investigations were still ongoing.
A spokesman for the prosecutor's office said there had been doubts about the tip-off from the beginning, but said it could not be ignored.
Their assessment was downbeat enough that the spokesman even suggested that the tipster could be investigated for making a false complaint.
In July, German police searched a vegetable garden 12 miles away which was once occupied by Brueckner, digging up the allotment in a two-day operation.
The allotment was only a short drive away from an apartment block where Brueckner was registered while living in Hanover, and the 'Havana Club' bar which he is thought to have frequented is also nearby.
One gardener said in July that Brueckner had lived off-grid at the allotment in 2007 and talked about planning his return to southern Europe.
'I remembered his face from the pictures in the news. And I remember his van and his dogs. I had completely forgotten about him up until then,' said Wolfgang Kossack, 73.
German media says Brueckner received at least two criminal convictions from a Hanover court, one for forging documents in 2010 and another for theft in 2013.
He split his time between Germany and Portugal from 2013 to 2015, prosecutors in Hanover have said.
Brueckner lived in the Algarve for much of the period from 1995 to 2007, and German prosecutors say he received a phone call from a Portuguese number around the time of Madeleine's disappearance in May 2007.
Brueckner made a living doing odd jobs in the area where Madeleine disappeared, and was also known to have burgled hotel rooms and holiday flats.
Weeks after the allotment search, authorities indicated they had been looking for digital storage devices, but Brueckner's lawyer accused them of 'desperation'.
Since taking the lead in the case earlier this year, German police have struggled to explain what evidence they have about Madeleine's disappearance.
Last week, a leaked memo revealed that Portuguese investigators were 'shocked' by the lack of concrete evidence after being briefed on the case against Brueckner.
Before that, there was confusion about whether German authorities had specific evidence that Madeleine was dead, as they initially implied they did.
Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, have denied receiving a letter from German investigators stating that 'there is evidence or proof' Madeleine is dead.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, who is leading the German investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, said that a letter had been written to the couple, but would not reveal what it said.
The Metropolitan Police maintain their active investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, Operation Grange, is a missing person inquiry as there is no 'definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead'.
Portuguese authorities are also continuing their investigation and earlier this month searched a series of wells in the Algarve region.
Brueckner is currently in prison for an unrelated drugs conviction, and he is yet to begin a sentence for raping a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal in 2005.
In September, a European court rejected an appeal he had made on procedural grounds against his extradition from Italy to Germany in the drugs case.
A career criminal, he was identified as the new lead suspect in June after German police released a trove of new evidence including details of his cars and phone numbers, urging people to come forward with new tip-offs.
This week it emerged that the 43-year-old was injured while being taken to a parole hearing in Braunschweig.
The Braunschweig court said he sustained injuries to his ribs when law enforcement officers were putting ankle cuffs on him before the hearing Monday.
The court said he was treated in hospital and the parole hearing took place, and he was later returned to prison.
Synopsis of German article on November 18. Gleidingen is in the town of Laatzen, where Brueckner used to live:
“What’s going on in Gleidingen?”
Many police officers and the SEK have been standing in the Ringstrasse since the early hours of the morning.
Thomas Klinge from Chief Public Prosecutor’s office says dozens of officers are investigating the property and apartment.
At 6.30 am the son was taken from the house in handcuffs by the SEK and around 10am, the mother and officers left the house. They were digging up everything in the garden.
The mission was to prevent further criminal offences, but also to exclude any danger.
Klinge later reports that “Our initial feeling was probably correct because these reports (the tip off ?) have not been substantiated.”
A family have been subjected to an ordeal on the basis of a tip -off which proves to have been unsubstantiated.
Nowhere is CB’s name mentioned but it seems more like an operation related to suspected terrorism.
It just happens to have occurred in the town where CB once lived.
There is also a photo of a large police van and a mobile unit
“A spokesman for the prosecutor's office said there had been doubts about the tip-off from the beginning, but said it could not be ignored.”
From THE BEGINNING the tip-off offered little credibility but that didn’t stop the tabloid to write an entire article reenforcing the idea that the patsy is not a patsy but the real cuprit.
“Since taking the lead in the case earlier this year, German police have struggled to explain what evidence they have about Madeleine's disappearance.”
They have struggled to explain but as we write these words, we doubt that anyone in the world doesn’t immediately link Brueckner to Maddie.
To the informed ones because he’s a patsy but to the less informed – who are the vast majority – he’s by now Maddie’s abductor and killer.
Police in Madeleine McCann case receive 'interesting' pictures from British tourists
EXCLUSIVE: Police claim to have possible new leads in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann as holiday photos might have 'some interesting things on them'
By Andy Lines & Rob Hyde 22:06, 18 NOV 2020 Updated22:44, 18 NOV 2020
Police probing Madeleine McCann’s abduction have received photos taken by British tourists in Praia da Luz showing “interesting things”.
Prime suspect Christian Brueckner, 43, is back in jail following hospital treatment for two broken ribs which, he alleges, came from a scuffle with guards.
Chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We got leads from England, including ones from tourists on holiday in Portugal during this time.
“We got some photos where there might be some interesting things on them.
"There are quite good leads we are following up.”
But he said the information would take time to pursue and when the UK leaves the European Union this could take even longer as “many things can’t just be clarified at short notice”.
There were reports in Germany of developments in the case of three-year-old Madeleine who vanished on holiday in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007.
But police in Hanover categorically denied any searches carried out were linked to her disappearance.
Mr Wolters said the formal hurdles in the McCann case post-Brexit will get bigger.
He said: “In the EU everything was unified, and there was a uniform legal assistance between the European countries.”
But when the UK leaves he said Germany would have to “make a formal request, which means that we then write a very formal letter and then query everything individually”.
Phone records put Brueckner near the scene on the night Madeleine went missing.
He is serving a jail term for drug offences in Kiel, Germany.
He was sentenced to another seven years for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz in 2005 but is appealing against his conviction.
Madeleine McCann suspect LOSES his parole bid: Christian Brueckner must complete jail term for drug charges, court rules
Brueckner hoped to serve the remaining part of his sentence on probation But a regional court denied his appeal in a ruling announced on Thursday German media reported Brueckner broke two ribs in incident on Monday He had smeared surveillance cameras with yogurt and blocked the cell's toilet When officers came to arrest him, he refused to kneel so he could be shackled Prison guards are said to have then kicked his legs out, causing him to fall The 43-year-old was then loaded into ambulance after breaking two ribs At this point, he was seen for first time since being named the prime suspect
By Chris Jewers For Mailonline Published: 10:20 GMT, 19 November 2020 | Updated: 14:38 GMT, 19 November 2020
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner has lost his parole bid and must complete the remaining time of his jail term behind bars, a court has ruled.
The chief suspect in the 2007 disappearance of the three-year-old is currently in prison in the German town of Kiel for one year and nine months for drug trafficking.
He has already served two thirds of his sentence, and in theory would have the right to early parole.
However, the Regional Court of Braunschweig announced today that he could not serve the remainder of his sentence on probation after hearing the matter on Tuesday, citing his 'multiple criminal record and failed probation.'
Brueckner's probation for a previous case was revoked because he committed several offences during the probation period, including drug crimes and sexual acts against children.
The court said therefore in the event of a relapse during his probation period, a serious relapse is expect, Bild reported, adding that the court was unable to determine factors that could deter him from committing further crimes.
The news comes after reports in Germany on Monday said that Brueckner freaked out in his cell after being barred from smoking and then broke his ribs on a wooden bed when his legs were kicked away from him by prison guards ahead of his trial.
Brueckner felt that he was being manipulated by the police officers, who had forbidden him to smoke, and was angry at being filmed and shackled ahead of a court hearing, the report says.
In retaliation, he covered the surveillance cameras in his cell with yogurt and blocked the toilet with paper, according to Bild.
When court officials entered the cell to arrest him, they handcuffed his hands to his belt, and told him to kneel down so that he could be shackled, Brueckner reportedly told his lawyer.
When he refused, the prison guards allegedly kicked his legs out from underneath him, causing him to fall on to a wooden bed, breaking two of his ribs.
The incident came the day before police searched a new property where Brueckner once lived in connection with the case, after receiving a tip-off from the public.
The convicted rapist and paedophile was rushed to hospital for treatment after the incident in court on Monday. Police are now also investigating the judicial officers involved in the incident.
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher claims to have seen surveillance camera footage showing the subsequent firs aid treatment of his client that a constable filmed on her cell phone.
The district court's president is said to have requested the footage be deleted, according to Bild.
As he was being loaded into the ambulance on Monday, Brueckner, 43, was seen for the first time in public since being named by German police as the chief suspect in the three-year-old's 2007 disappearance in the Algarve.
He had been due to appear before a judge in Braunschweig for a parole hearing on an unrelated drugs charge, but sparked the incident around 40 minutes after arriving with his furious reaction to being filmed and put in chains.
The hearing - that began two hours late - was about the possibility that Brueckner's remaining prison sentence that he is currently serving for drug trafficking in Keil will be suspended on probation.
Because Brueckner was sentenced to seven years for rape in a separate trial, Bild states that it is likely that he will be released on parole.
On Tuesday, police in Germany searched a new property, local media said, months after McCann's suspected kidnapper's nearby allotment was dug up in a search for evidence.
Officers equipped with sniffer dogs and a mobile police station descended on a house near Hanover, where suspect Christian Brueckner once lived, after receiving a tip-off from a member of the public.
Authorities did not reveal the nature of the tip-off, but local newspaper Neue Presse said it was linked to the Madeleine case.
However, the current residents of the house were found to be 'totally blameless' and the eight-hour search has yet to lead to a breakthrough.
Prosecutors told Calenberger Online News that the search had backed up their 'gut feeling' that the tip-off was wrong, while adding that investigations were still ongoing.
Speaking about Monday's incident, a source at the court told The Sun: 'He got angry at being filmed and complained. He reacted angrily and when he refused to put the shackles on there was a more violent tussle and he hurt himself.'
Fulscher told the paper that the guards were filming him via a monitor and were asked to stop by Brueckner.
'They refused and an argument started. This carried on and they attacked my client with a baton after he refused to put the prison shackles on. He suffered serious injuries, two broken ribs.' The lawyer said.
'It was behaviour not expected from guards. I had to get a judge involved to ensure the footage was deleted.
'Yes, he did dirty his cell but he was understandably angry at being filmed.'
Fulscher has filed a criminal complaint against the guards for allegedly beating his client.
The court has claimed that Brueckner had 'fallen over' after arriving at the court from his prison in Kiel.
A prison guard is said to have told the paramedics who arrived that 'someone had been rioting.'
He was pictured on Monday being escorted back out to a waiting ambulance for transportation back to custody after receiving treatment in A&E.
A court spokesman said at the time: 'The exact sequence of events is now the subject of investigation. Against this background, we cannot comment on the details.'
Brueckner had been driven 186 miles from Kiel to Braunschweig for a parole hearing on his current 21-month drugs sentence.
He will have served two-thirds of his sentence in January and will be eligible for parole.
The criminal has been identified by German police as the prime suspect in Madeleine's abduction in Portugal 13 years ago
Wearing a face mask, Brueckner was driven into the back of the court on Monday flanked by police officers.
Forty minutes later he was rushed out by paramedics after his 'fall.'
The prosecution is opposing his parole because of the outstanding investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.
The three-year-old was abducted from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the popular Algarve region.
German prosecutors say they have 'concrete evidence' that the toddler is dead and are convinced Brueckner was behind the infamous case.
They said Brueckner - who has previous convictions for child abuse and rape - was known to be in the Algarve the year that Madeleine disappeared.
Detectives say phone data proves Brueckner was near the Praia da Luz resort when Madeleine vanished, but have not yet revealed a 'smoking gun' proving that he is the one who took her.
Asked last month whether forensic evidence can place Brueckner inside the flat where Madeleine vanished, he said: 'I have an answer but we have decided not to divulge this information.
'I can't say 'yes' or 'no' as that would bring a thousand other questions and I cannot go into details.
'But you have to believe me when I say we have more evidence.
'Here in Germany our Public Ministry only divulges things when they are solid.'
But last week, Portuguese police accused German cops of having no evidence that Brueckner abducted Madeleine, according to a leaked memo.
Officers from the Policia Judiciaria said they were 'shocked' after being briefed on the German case against Brueckner, adding there is 'no evidence, just speculation'.
Portuguese detectives believe the allegations against Brueckner are designed to 'keep him in prison at all costs', and accused their German counterparts of failing to conduct a serious investigation.
The extraordinary claims were contained in a memo prepared by Portuguese police after meeting with German BKA detectives and investigators from Scotland Yard.
A leaked copy of the memo was shown to The Sun, in which a Portuguese officer wrote: 'There is no evidence, just speculation.
'When reading the German case I was shocked. I never thought that the BKA would investigate so badly.
'The meeting was to get the point of the situation, the BKA wants to investigate the other two cases of possible sexual harassment, so that the suspect does not leave prison until the end of the year and they will drop the suspect.
'It is not a serious and objective investigation, but only just to keep the suspect in prison at all costs.'
Portuguese police have been accused of bungling the investigation, including pursuing the theory that Madeleine's parents - Kate and Jerry - were responsible.
Goncalo Amaral was fired over his handling of the investigation, and successfully sued by the McCanns after pushing the theory they were responsible in a book.
Hans Christian Wolters, the prosecutor leading the German case, was forced to admit last month that the evidence they have gathered is not strong enough to see Brueckner charged.
He added that they are 'one witness' away from getting the evidence they need, but so far nobody has come forward.
Brueckner has previously said he is innocent of any crime relating to the four-year-old.
It seems it happened over a yoghurt. The Telegraph says the altercation started because Brueckner wasn’t allowed to smoke, so nothing to do with fellow inmates targeting a supposed paedo.
The Mail still repeating the story about the search which was the result of a tip-off.
GET OUT OF JAIL FAIL Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B has early prison-release bid REJECTED as court rules he must stay behind bars
Exclusive Nick Pisa 19 Nov 2020, 10:34 Updated: 19 Nov 2020, 13:11
MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B will stay in jail after his parole request was rejected by judges who ruled he was a ''security risk''.
The 43-year-old convicted rapist and paedophile had appealed to be released early after serving two thirds of a 21-month sentence for drug offences.
He was eligible for parole in June but the decision was delayed after German authorties identified him as the prime suspect for Madeleine's abduction and murder.
Earlier this week he suffered two broken ribs after an alleged attack by guards at the court in Braunschweig, Germany, where he had appeared for his parole hearing.
But this morning in a dramatic ruling judges said he should remain in jail at Keil, northern Germany.
In a statement they said the request was rejected and added:' 'This has the consequence that the criminal detention continues.
''The chamber has thus followed the assessment of the public prosecutor's office, which, in agreement with the prison, is also against a conditional release
''As a justification, the Penal Enforcement Chamber stated that, taking into account the security interests of the general public, a suspended sentence cannot be held responsible. The convicted person has multiple criminal records and parole failures.
''In particular the convict committed several offences during the probation period. In the past, the convict had crimes among them the sexual acts on children, which is why serious crimes are to be expected in the event of a relapse.
Madeleine was three when she vanished from a flat in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz while on holiday with her family in May 2007.
Prosecutors said in June they had "concrete evidence" she was dead and have named Christian B as the main suspect.
"Stabilising factors that could deter the convicted from committing further crimes were not found.''
Reports last night claimed Christian B’s lawyers in Germany have filed a criminal complaint for alleged assault.
The Sun Online can reveal the altercation, which came after he refused put on restraints, is the latest in a string of incidents involving Christian B in recent weeks.
The incident is said to have happened on Monday after Christian B was driven 240 miles from jail in Kiel to Braunschweig for a parole hearing.
A source at the court said the pedophile had "thrown a tantrum'' in his cell, smearing it with yoghurt and blocking the toilet with loo roll, because guards were filming him.
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner to stay jailed at least till 2026 for raping 72-year-old woman
The convict had appealed the rape conviction in a technicality, he can now only apply for parole from 2023
By Namrata Tripathi Published on : 03:21 PST, Nov 21, 2020
Madeleine McCann's murder suspect, Christian Brueckner, is reportedly set to stay in prison at least until 2026, reports state. The update came on Friday, September 20, after judges rejected his appeal on a rape conviction. Brueckner was sentenced to seven years in prison in December 2019 for attacking a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2005. The convict had appealed the rape conviction in a technicality, he can now only apply for parole from 2023.
Brueckner, a 43-year-old pedophile from Germany, was named by authorities in June as the prime suspect in Madeleine's missing case. The three-year-old mysteriously disappeared from her parents' vacation apartment at The Ocean Club Resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal on the night of May 3, 2007. Judges in Germany dismissed Brueckner's appeal and confirmed his seven-year sentence. The news was welcomed by the investigators probing Madeleine's case as one of them said: "t's great news. It means he won't be going anywhere for a very long time and so we can carry on building up our case against him."
Brueckner, earlier this week, reportedly suffered two broken ribs in mysterious circumstances in his prison cell before applying for parole, which was eventually rejected. Reports state that Brueckner had the injuries after being involved in a scuffle with prison guards after throwing a "tantrum" because he was not allowed to smoke in the courthouse. Latest pictures showed Brueckner being led out of the building to be taken to a hospital for treatment.
Brueckner had reportedly appealed against the rape convicting in July at the European Court of Justice, claiming that his arrest warrant was applied incorrectly. Germany's Federal Court, in a statement, said: "The Braunschweig Regional Court sentenced the accused to a total imprisonment of seven years for serious rape.
According to the findings of the regional court, the defendant attacked a 72-year-old American woman in September 2005 at her house in the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia de Luz." "He threatened the woman with a scimitar, handcuffed her and raped her. Then he forced his victim to hand over money," the statement continued. "The 6th Criminal Senate of the Federal Court of Justice had submitted the legal question to the European Court of Justice as to whether the principle of mutual legal assistance as defined in European law opposed the specialty of conviction." The court statement added: "The Court of Justice denied this with a judgment of September 24, 2020. Since the appellate review of the judgment of the Regional Court of Braunschweig — apart from a clarification of the sentence formula — did not reveal any legal error to the detriment of the accused, the Senate rejected his appeal as unfounded in accordance with the motion of the Attorney General. The aforementioned judgment is therefore final."
Brueckner's criminal history states that he was convicted of sexually abusing a child in 1994 when he was 17. The suspect was reportedly given a youth sentence of two years. Later, in 2016, he was imprisoned again for a year and three months for "abusing a child in the act of procuring himself and possessing child pornography," and in June 2017 he received 15 months' prison sentence for sexual abuse of a child. Brueckner, as he went in and out of prison, spent his time between Germany and Portugal, where he was living at the time of Madeleine's disappearance. The suspect would have been 30 at the time when the toddler disappeared. His phone records showed him near the resort on the day of Maddie's disappearance.
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NEW CELL Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B to be transferred to maximum security prison ahead of questioning in New Year
Exclusive Nick Pisa 29 Nov 2020, 15:47 Updated: 29 Nov 2020, 15:47
MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B is moving to a maximum security prison ahead of questioning in the New Year.
The convicted paedophile and rapist 43, is currently serving a 21-month drugs sentence and is in isolation for his own safety.
In January, that term will end and he will be moved from Kiel maximum security prison to one 200 miles south in Lower Saxony at either Celle or Wolfenbuttel.
Both are Category A maximum security.
Christian B has already spent time in Wolfenbuttel when he was on remand ahead of his trial last year for raping a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz in 2005 - just two years before Madeleine vanished.
MAXIMUM SECURITY
Judges at Germany's Federal court confirmed the sentence earlier this month and while on remand investigators used an informant to spy on him to gain evidence for their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.
The move will make it easier for prosecutors based at Braunsweig to question him in connection with the Madeleine case, and two other sex crimes they are trying to pin on him. Christian B was identified as the prime suspect in the Madeleine disappearance last June by German investigators.
They said they had ''concrete evidence'' she was dead and that he was responsible, although no charges have been brought yet.
'CONCRETE EVIDENCE'
A source close to the case said: ''(Christian B) hasn't been questioned yet in connection with the Madeleine inquiry as the evidence is still being gathered and checked but the idea is to wait until he is closer to where the team are based.
''A 640km round trip (400 miles) every week would waste a lot of time and resources and now we know he will be in prison until 2026 we know where he is and we can get to him easier.
''The feeling is though he won't say anything even when we do see him but at least it will make it easier.''
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: ''In Germany, the execution of sentences is basically the federal state in which the conviction took place.
''This also has cost reasons, because each federal state only wants to pay for the execution of sentences for which it is itself responsible.''
Lawyer Friedrich Fulscher, who is defending him and insists the police have the wrong man, said: ''It's very likely he will be transferred in January but I have no comment to make.''
Is The Sun doing this of their own volition? Or, has someone been buying ad space again? My guess would be that the same old crowd, Sky, The Sun and ilk are pushing this to the death to cover their own miserable backsides.
Madeleine missing doesn't make serious dough anymore, discovering her whereabouts will inevitably be a massive windfall for anyone willing to take it on though.
So, why don't they do it? Loyalty? Lawyers? Contracts?
Whatever it was and ostensibly still is, they certainly weren't honest with the public or considerate of their legal rights, and specifically their human rights.
And Wolters, that man is a schoolboy in short pants and an even shorter jacket playing pin the tail on the donkey with the big boys.
I'll say it again, why is Wolters doing this? And, what's in it for him? He's a clown and can't even stop himself from laughing at the most serious moments on camera.
I wouldn't hire him, there are far too many obvious signs of the flake in a cheap ill-fitted suit being too weak and way too untrustworthy already.
Madeleine was not abducted, nor is she anywhere in Deutschland either. You're a mug, Herr Wolters. And you are not going to pin Madeleine's death on vile scum like him.
You're not even an active participant in this crazy sideshow, you're just another one-dimensional guy who has a few clumsy lines in a long-running and wholly unedifying, fictitious scripted plot.
One neatly dotted with crumbs of truth to make it plausible to the various levels of gullibility demographic. And no, I did not mention Mrs Bragalot in Paradise;)
Show some respect for Madeleine, all of you, it's more than way past overdue.
Thanks, Textusa! I'm just sick and tired of the wimps and imbeciles, all of whom shouldn't be anywhere near a case involving the most vulnerable and defenceless members of society.
A child for goodness sake, a little one of only allegedly 90cms high. I use the word allegedly because so much of what has been documented in the files is clearly their story, which to all intents and purposes is an in-house fairy tale.
All I could honestly testify to knowing in this case is that Madeleine was once a real and alive human being. As for the rest, there's no way I could hand on heart swear to any of it being true.
I think OG is being distanced from Germany because CD knows it’s unlikely CB will be prosecuted by Germany. OG took down their appeal for info about CB and the phone calls a few weeks ago. OG prefer to follow the line of she may be alive because the search for a dead M would go nowhere and couldn’t justify OG continuing? Maybe CD doesn’t want the PJ to release any files on any work done. Which is what they might do once OG declares it has no further role. I doubt Portugal want to pursue this case and would declare their investigations have come to an end once OG says they are no longer investigating. Once we Brexit, I imagine we will have a less powerful influence in Portugal. The PJ won’t be interested in OG’s leads.
When people try to debate the McCann case on twitter, a certain person who has never made any contributions to the case, always comes along to try and disrupt and intimidate people with personal insults.
Columbian Ric @RicColumbian Replying to @RicColumbian @EricaCantona7 and @jules999x
Or Fredthefish10 aka Andy, aka Sydthesquid who remarkabley has a Yorkshire accent and says he’s from Wilmslow 4:14 PM · May 31, 2020
Niklas Ericson @ericson_niklas
· Dec 2 Hello #McCann I´am back
SidTheStarFish @SidShark1
Replying to @ericson_niklas You're a Prat, N-E. Are you still giving Tony Bent Bennett a nosh? Clown on #McCann Do one, you idiot.
SidTheStarFish @SidShark1
Replying to @njbennett @lyssa_jordan and 2 others Nick. I've seen your Tweets for a long time & if I'm being honest, then I think you're a Prat! However - what does this Prat think on #McCann ? Can you Think for yourself? (That's a genuine Q) Cheers. 1:21 AM · Dec 3, 2020·Twitter Web App
There's another article by the by the BBC today claiming essentially that Wondrous Wolters will nail his man to the wall after all. There's evidence alright, and your man's got it, just not enough to prove their earthshattering investigative genius yet.
Whoever 'they are', as of course we have heard the pluralised version of prosecutor mentioned on numerous occasions, yet the only prosecutor named is Herr Plausibility himself.
Seriously, has no-one reported the blustering lying idiot yet? If not, it's high time someone put pen to paper and had him removed from a job he is clearly rubbish at.
Madeleine was not abducted.
Madeleine was not taken by Bruckner, [you sick bast*rds for even thinking it].
Madeleine was not taken to Germany and is not buried there.
Apologies for the repetition on the first line and the incorrect spelling of the convict's last name, Text. I should have read it through before publishing.
Madeleine McCann: Public 'would reach same conclusion' on suspect
By Jenny Hill BBC Berlin correspondent
A prosecutor who believes Madeleine McCann was killed by a German sex offender says the public would reach the same conclusion if they "knew the evidence we had".
Hans Christian Wolters told the BBC that while his team does not currently have enough evidence to charge Christian B, he is "very confident".
Their prime suspect is in prison serving sentences in Germany for drug smuggling and rape.
Madeleine disappeared in 2007.
She was on holiday with her family in Praia da Luz, Portugal, at the time of her disappearance, the same resort where Christian B raped a 72-year-old American woman.
Suspects' surnames are not usually revealed in Germany for privacy reasons.
Although Christian B, 43, was identified as a suspect in June prosecutors do not have enough evidence to charge him.
Mr Wolters said: "If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can't give you details because we don't want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations."
The six-month investigation has yielded fresh evidence of other alleged crimes.
Christian B lived in Portugal on and off for years and investigators now believe he may have committed at least three other sex crimes here - two of them against children, Mr Wolters said. He said charges may follow early next year.
Mr Wolters said progress in the case of Madeleine was slower because of the logistical challenges posed by a disappearance now 13 years old in a different country.
But he said his team was working to build a water tight case against him.
Christian B recently lost an appeal against his rape conviction and will remain in prison for a seven-year sentence once his current drugs sentence ends in January.
Mr Wolters said: "I can't promise, I can't guarantee that we have enough to bring a charge but I'm very confident because what we have so far doesn't allow any other conclusion at all."
Last week, Met Police commissioner Dame Cressida Dick said that the Met's position had not changed since the summer, when the force said its investigation - Operation Grange - remained a missing person inquiry as there is no "definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead".
Madeleine, from Rothley in Leicestershire, went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, on 3 May 2007, shortly before her fourth birthday.
Christian B is currently serving a prison sentence for drug offences in Germany and lost an appeal last month against a further seven-year sentence for rape.
He attacked the American woman in 2005 in the same area where Madeleine disappeared about 18 months later.
Police believe he was regularly living in this part of Portugal between 1997 and 2007, staying in a camper van at the time he is suspected of abducting Madeleine.
“Mr Wolters said: "If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can't give you details because we don't want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations."”
Really? Where have we heard people saying they have evidence but can’t show it?
The Trump legal team alleging fraud (but only outside the court-rooms), saying they have evidence of it but not “being able” to provide it.
Surprised she hasn't manufactured at least one so far, we know Photoshop has been around since forever, we also know that even though much of the general public know this, they still fall for it, hook, line and sinker - every time.
That tells me that that individual (or more than one) is not part of the inner circle, more like a troublemaker and attention-seeker who knows half a story and has made up the rest with a little help from her superstar internet sleuthing and agitator friends.
You are not wrong about the BRT ludicrousness, it was a snack and drinks bar there to serve the pool, and not till late at night either, that's it, you are correct and that one is a liar.
"A prosecutor who believes Madeleine McCann was killed by a German sex offender says the public would reach the same conclusion if they "knew the evidence we had."
Drafting in foreign police to act as publicity officials for the prime suspects is a novel idea, and is providing amusement for people who have read this latest rubbish.
However, the German police should note that the general public have no reason whatsoever to doubt the evidence in the PJ files. Most of which was provided by the McCanns and their friends during interviews. The German police may wish to read the PJ files before continuing to make fools of themselves.
For instance, CB could not have had access to the McCanns hired car to transport Madeleine's frozen corpse without the McCanns and their friends knowing about it. (Evidence of Madeleine's bodily fluids were discovered in the car.)
Therefore the German police have scored an own goal here. As this would firmly suggest the McCanns must have been in league with CB at some point after the death of Madeleine.
Are the Germans playing slowly, slowly catchee monkeys here? If so, they should carry on. This can only assist in justice for Madeleine. Rest in peace.
Everyone knows he's a troll who stalks and attacks people on the case and disrupts all discussions. They know he pretends to be a businessman living in Wilmslow, when in reality he is a benefits scrounger from Yorkshire. This info came from Zora McCartney, who also said he found out Jules is allegedly related to people connected to the McCann family, after infiltrating her fence-sitting group, and that he calls Jules 'Roland Rat' behind her back.
���������������� ᖇᗴᗷᗴᑕᑕᗩ Glowing star @loverandomieigh Except, the troll in question is NOT a pro #McCann & is actually besties with ur lot ~ colonel porker, spoon Spoon & Co. Nice try chinny Clown face
@Anvil161Anvil16 I see @AlgarvePost (Walker and his shared account) has been owned, hissing like a caged rat and spewing names. His tweet 'liked' of course by the repugnant slags and hypocrites. #mccann
Elaine Strachan #kbf @strackers74 "Walker" How stupid are these ppl? Someone pls tell Arnie there is no Walker let alone Michael Wright being Walker - PLEASE!!! The guy just won't listen to sense
@Anvil161Anvil16 Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 Not surprisingly, Walker, the abhorrent, is liked by Jules who is (supposedly) opposed to him (he wrote an unflattering poem about her wide knickers and her snatch) unless it suits her weird agenda. In which case they lick each others malignant sores. #mccann
Elaine Strachan #kbf @strackers74 There r some smart people on the periphery of the inner sanctum of scum. Why don't they call out Spoon&PIN & ask them about their weird relationships with Frog & Walker? I had a look for the 1st time in a while & apart from not having to read ferret bile YAY (result), nowt's diff
We’ve seen no evidence that Jules is related to either side of the McCann family, although it’s been suggested that Misty (Frog) and a Jules were linked on a forum that no longer exists. We think it was Amazon.
In the days when HTFM was at its peak, many people from across the country were linked, but we can’t recall the names from so long ago.
Also, we have first-hand experience on how unreliable the source of information you mention is.
Not seen evidence of her being connected myself, but saw them start rumours she is connected to a female family member who is never mentioned. His assertions that Frog is Kate McCann and Walker is Michael Wright make the tag look ridiculous.
SidTheShark @sid_shark · Nov 23 Replying to @MistyDa83907643
@craig_c83 and 45 others FRANCESCA FROG.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE KATE #McCann
10k to anyone right now, if I'm wrong
I never am!
Cheers. SidTheShark @sid_shark · Nov 23 Replying to @MistyDa83907643
@shazbat2008 and 45 others Crap defense Nonsense as Per, Frog/Kate...
The Parents are Guilty, as you bloody well know!
What's with this Rubbish, that has Sod all to do with the #McCann SidTheShark @sid_shark · Nov 23 Replying to @MistyDa83907643
@JamesMcPeake and 45 others ... you're not very good at this, are you Toad!
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339314673737490434 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @cantona_erica, @MMTRUTHORLIE and 48 others It was rectangular judging by photos of Dolphin seating areas - so still a BRT. The round ones may have been hidden from view, only brought out on special occasions. 9:01 PM · Dec 16, 2020·Twitter Web App
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So something that is rectangular is also round. Go figure.
Throwing basic geometry out the window and supposing that a rectangular object can be simultaneously round, if the BRT was available for special occasions, why did Tanner describe the “mackling” of other small tables to make a large, round table?
It would have been easier to bring out the special table, as these function tables are very easy to assemble.
Nowhere is it stated by the Tapas staff that a special table had to be ordered for the second time the group (said that) they ate there.
Why would the Tapas bar already have a special large, round table-in-waiting when it was easier to link 2, 3 or whatever number would be needed of square tables together? Square tables, BTW, which are missing from Frog’s photo of the esplanade and are rather numerous in pictures in Amaral’s book.
Besides, Frog has already acknowledged that there was no BRT at Tapas before the T9 arrived. For some reason she deleted her original account.
As promised, the blog we will publish that acknowledgement the moment Jules publishes the BRT photos she says she has and which will own the blog, a threat made almost 2 years ago.
There was no BRT. And that Jules mouthpiece has lied about its existence to likeminded individuals because they too are sufficiently ignorant enough to swallow any old invented twaddle on Twitter and such.
They know nothing, and they care about Madeleine and the truth even less. They say Madeleine is missing every day when she is not. In short, those people are a complete waste of time and space re anything that resembles reality in the Maddie affair.
Madeleine is not missing, they can't even get that basic fact straight. Just another clown act, amongst the countless many..
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339700645062914048 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @Jules1602xx, @craig_c83, and 48 others And now the person who doesn't realise the words rectangular & round both start with the letter "r" has had the audacity to criticise your intelligence. 🙄 10:34 PM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter Web App
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This individual explains that she means that the acronym BRT which stands for Big Round Table – used to describe SPECIFICALLY the table allegedly used by the T9 at Tapas and its round shape is in the PJ Files drawn up by Kate McCann – can also stand for Big Rectangular Table.
The individual does not mention but BRT can also stand for Big Rhombus Table, Big Rock Table or, this only for our Portuguese readers, Big Raiostapartam Table. What relevance does Rectangular, Rhombus, Rock or Raiostapartam have to do with the Maddie case? None whatsoever.
Imagine that when discussing which car brand that one reputes to be the best, one would mention one of the following 621 miniature car brands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_model_car_brands
Technically, all of them are cars and each one is a brand so when mentioning any of 621 brands in the discussion above, one would be indeed mentioning a “car brand”. Faultlessly.
But one would only mention any of the 621 in the context of the abovementioned conversation if one was a moron, if one wanted to derail the conversation or, most likely, both.
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339292733731713028 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @craig_c83, @grandwazoo19 and 48 others Don't tell anyone else but...Textusa thinks Jules is related to the McCanns so she's really my sister-in-law 🤣 7:34 PM · Dec 16, 2020·Twitter Web App
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This just shows how allergic to the truth this individual is. But then, she had to delete her original account didn’t she?
Jules knows how to read a script, but can't seem to discern whether it's fiction or not. Therefore she cherry picks and decides what resonates with her subjective analyses and conclusions and what does not.
That's the primary reason why, effectively, and in real concrete proof terms...she knows NOWT.
Stop lying and saying Madeleine is missing, she is not.
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339700645062914048 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @Jules1602xx, @craig_c83, and 48 others And now the person who doesn't realise the words rectangular & round both start with the letter "r" has had the audacity to criticise your intelligence. 🙄 10:34 PM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter Web App
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Interesting is to see someone trying to be clever with words and failing miserably, especially when incapable of understanding the difference between being intelligent and being educated.
To help this individual, and quoting Google: Education is knowledge acquired in formal learning environments, such as school. Intelligence is that actual ability to learn, to acquire, assimilate, and use new knowledge
Iit’s noted that with her silence, this individual has tacitly recognized that she has lied about the connection she alleges we made between Jules and the McCanns.
Nothing shows better a person’s character than when that persons denigrates dwarfism to attack someone:
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339733849501282304 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 He's also higher in that table than you. 12:46 AM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App
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Wolters will look like the village idiot when he's finally confronted with the real truth. German turf, son? No, lad. Rothley, just go to Rothley for afternoon tea, concrete truth and sympathy.
He won't though, because as anyone with an ounce of sense knows, this affair, is precisely and with zero exception, nothing to do with him.
All I want to say at the moment is Happy New Year, and karma is working. It is undoubtfully working in the most mysterious of ways, but it is working. Egos and false beliefs are major components in the doggedly rigid adherence to the shockingly egregious and ultimately dangerously dumba** pact.
Make it a great one, make it a fabulous one, make it the best one yet. Lies destroy. Truth transforms. And our NHS is ripe for a thorough national audit. Then Leicester Constabulary, then Grange, then we go for the rest. Dig, remove, cleanse, repeat. Until it's done...
He was said by a girlfriend to have had relationships with older women in the area. We bet they will be mortified if they are interviewed.
It will be interesting if Robert Murat is interviewed, given that his partner Michaela once had a German food shop in the area and Murat himself travelled to Germany to buy cars and also knew the American rape victim.
Uma vizinha (entrevistada por Sandra Felgueiras) de Bruekner também conhecia a mulher americana, coincidência ou não. Também havia um individuo alemão que trabalhou na cozinha do tapas bar e que foi despedido ou saiu por livre vontade pouco antes de 3 de Maio.. Outra coincidência.
Ruth McClean was the neighbour of Brueckner who knew the American woman. Ruth was interviewed by Sandra Felgueiras.
Ruth and her daughter said they hadn’t seen Brueckner or his camper van in the area, as he’d left the property some time ago. Ruth cleaned up the property after he left. She knew the American women, but hadn’t been told anything about the attack.
The programme also showed documents that described the woman being assisted by neighbours, but Ruth obviously wasn’t one of them.
There was a Peter K, an OC worker (PJ Files says in a handwritten comment that he was a cook at Tapas), with a surname that sounds German, who was under temporary leave from May 2 to May 10 for psychiatric reasons (also a handwritten comment).
Peter era chefe de cozinha, e o facto de ter trabalhado até 2 de maio no Tapas bar, era motivo para ter sido entrevistado pela pj, mas parece que não foi. E era alemão, pois há outro funcionário(J.Young) que o refere (assim como o facto de ter saído inesperadamente) e o descreve fisicamente.
Psychiatric reasons for eight days? Why did an employer and one would think doctor put those words in print? Psychiatric reasons?
Surely more sensitive wording would have been used, something like nervous debility in an English sense according to Sue who is a working medic.
I'll probably ask others when the opportunity presents itself, but psychiatric reasons, isn't that a tad nebulous or at least potentially harmful to someone in an employee/employer situation?
That's non-specific and uses a word which could be potentially alarming to an employer and possibly detrimental to the employee.
Who is Peter K with a surname that sounds German? Is he even real? You never know with that lot and their soap opera style fabrications. Gosh, it's like watching ye olde English children's TV shows all over again.
They were fictional with an undercurrent of truth, in fact, pretty much the same template as this one.
The only missing ingredient being Madeleine, who ironically, and one could say predictably, was never missing at all.
The handwritten comment in the Files says Peter Kay “Cozinheiro “Tapas” (Baixa Psiq. Desde 02 a 10 Mai 07)”
If we are to believe in that statement – we now know that the Ocean Club was very economical with the truth regarding Maddie – then Peter K was not present when the little girl disappeared.
However, he was on duty up to May 1 which means he should have been questioned, as he could have seen something that would turn to be of interest in the preceding days.
There is no statement from Peter K on the Files-
John Young, outside the roster list who refers to Peter K as far as we know (our translation): https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_YOUNG.htm
“Questioned, the deponent refers that he has no knowledge of any type of situation which he believes to be suspicious that may be directly or indirectly related to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. As to the normal functioning of the area where he works, he only remembers as a fact out of the normal routine, that the Kitchen Chef from the Tapas, a German individual named Peter, abandoned his functions about a week before the occurrence of the facts, however characterizing that this person's behaviour was that of a perfectly normal person. He further adds that this person's build is as follows: thin, Caucasian, height of about 1,77m with full, light brown/grey and to the full hair.”
We translated “Baixa Psiquiátrica” above as a “temporary leave for psychiatric reasons” when we it’s best translated as “psychiatric sick leave”.
This sick leave is very easy to obtain in Portugal. It is not needed to be signed by a psychiatrist or a psychologist, being enough the signature of a GP.
All one has to do is to go to a local GP, state that one is not feeling well, that one cannot cope with the work pressure at that moment and that one needs urgently to have a rest, that one gets such a sick leave.
In terms of salary, the Social Security will pay that individual the salary during the period of the sick leave and the employer is exempt from paying the salary and taxes for that period. Please see para “2. Salary that is a salary and a half” of our post “Tourism diet”. http://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/04/tourism-diet.html
Obviously, this facilitates fraudulent sick leaves, which unless there is a denunciation the system is unable to detect. If there is an agreement between the worker and the employer, then these fraudulent sick leaves simply go undetected. All is needed is to head to the nearest health facility, whine a bit and come back with a signed paper validating it.
A fraudulent psychiatric sick leave would be a very easy go-to mechanism to “avoid” the presence of someone during both when occurrences happened and the period to be questioned by the police who would refuse to go along in telling lies that others had no problems in telling.
Isn’t it fascinating that on May 8, a Mill worker knows about a psychiatric sick leave from someone who works at Tapas? Did all Ocean Club workers follow each other’s presence at work even though the Ocean Club has a footprint in so many locations all over Praia da Luz?
Baixas de 8 dias serão obviamente fraudulentas em PT e no resto do mundo( e nunca teria o nome de "baixa", se tanto "ausente por.."), e é logo motivo para desconfiar. Vamos acreditar que a pj não fechou os olhos a isso :) e o interrogatório ao Peter está na parte do processo privado. Mas são tantos outros que por milagre escaparam ao interrogatório policial por estarem ausentes.. Que conveniente! Na minha opinião qualquer coisa se passou muito provavelmente no dia 1 ou 2 de Maio. Muito provavelmente esse acontecimento veio a culminar com a morte de MM no dia 3. Há pessoas que sabem e foram estrategicamente afastadas, não vou dizer nomes, mas basta uma pesquisa. Talvez seja através deste Peter que surge o CB nesta história toda.
It was an inside job, Murat said so. And, everyone was acting, Kate tried to make that as clear as possible under the circumstances.
She didn't have to, but my belief is that shame and the results of what is considered to be a decent upbringing outweighed her ability to follow a script written by a bunch of pretentious and wet behind the ears, pure and never learned a thing from history - skalls.
Toss it all out the window and believe nothing until you KNOW it's the truth. It's also worth remembering that good fiction is meant to sound believable, and if you can mix it up with real life and call it the news...even better.
The toe-rags have been faking it for decades, and oh, what's the point..? They've all lied, all of them.
Especially the copper a day underachievers at Leicester and their mates from hither and thither. (What happened to your law books, BTW?)
Let us pray.
From Welland to Rio to Kingston to Atherton to Liverpool to Luz, and with an obligatory meet-and-greet (for 5 seconds) with the pope. Let us pray again... and, it must be said...hallelujah!
Beyond that, Madeleine prefers blue. Seriously, if being ridiculous is what they insist on being then the Madeleine Mirror is reflecting their faces only.
Which reminds one, someone who used to wear a uniform, is incredibly wimpy and has lied on camera about Madeleine is losing concentration.
And we all know what that leads to, don't we?
ACCIDENTS.
Cause and effect is real, be careful how you act.
And to Textusa and team members, your persistence and unyielding determination is astounding.
If by “na parte do processo privado” you mean the infamous and often mentioned “Unpublished PJ Files”, we do not believe they exist: http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/01/debunking-urban-myths-unpublished-pj.html
We will not debate this.
We have said that there we believe that there is unpublished material – an example we gave was what Mrs Fenn said on the night of May 3 or on May 4 – which the PJ considered to NOT HAVE IMPORTANCE to be presented for decision from the higher echelon, and so was not included in the files.
Shall we say that it’s the Recycle Bin of the process that hasn’t been emptied out yet.
Taking into account that we have a lot of meaningless statements from the OC staff we assume that Peter K was not questioned. However, we do not discard that his statement may be in the said bin. If it is, then it’s because he had nothing to say the PJ considered relevant and not because he said anything sensitive/secretive.
For any document to be retrieved from that bin and to be included in the ongoing investigation there has to be a RELEVANT reason, which must be given and put in the process so that the decider can fully understand why it wasn’t included in the initial process and now it has become relevant.
Eu estava a ser ironica e também não acredito que Peter K. tenha sido interrogado. Foi descartado, como tantos outros, uns que apenas foram ouvidos informalmente, outros nem isso. Os funcionários dos desportos aquáticos não foram ouvidos porquê? São funcionários e deveriam ser TODOS interrogados, independentemente se são considerados relevantes. Continuo a achar que Peter K. é uma peça imortante neste puzzle. Brueckner não surge do nada. Havia relação entre eles, muito, mas mesmo muito provavelmente.
If people really are interested in understanding the false multiple layers of the Ocean Club madness then they should discover who Mrs. Fenn's rust coloured patio umbrella really belonged to.
Her favourite fish restaurant and regular Praia da Luz hairdresser was also a pile of hooey. It was pretty much in keeping with the most deplorable kinds of mockery television at the time though.
Shows as sickeningly patronising as My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. Virtually a total marketing ripoff of the Greek titled movie, perhaps not the greatest movie ever made, but at least it was filmed in a genuine Greek area.
[Jez Wilkins and Jon Corner's former business dealings? Discuss].
Remember when everybody laughed and said you were as good as crazy for saying how many individuals were involved in the abduction hoax and the subsequent, seemingly sealed in blood, cover-up?
They were wrong. And your logical untangling of the bogus story line was absolutely correct.
Cooks, tennis instructors, unqualified non lifesaving nannies taking babies out on boats in Baltic weather conditions in the deep dark Atlantic.
Who the heck wrote that? Someone who never went further than their own backdoor in childhood - I'm guessing.
Textusa, as much as folk love to focus on Kate and Gerry, [big bad connected to the most supreme power, Kate and Gerry McCann].
It can now be proved that along with Control Risks Group and others who cannot be mentioned for legal reasons [at this time], that at least two Sky News employees were also present on the ground one week prior to going live with their pension pots.
"That Textusa is so insane that s/he's involved everybody in the abduction hoax. Therefore, it can't be true."
It takes all sorts. They should, however, come clean.
Twitter seems to be hellbent today on claiming who the independent witnesses were. As if they'd know, pur-lease - with a cherry on top. They become more clueless as each day passes.
Nevertheless, please note, they are all on Madeleine's side and want justice for her. Interpretations of meanings differ immensely, but never mind, they're all seeking justice for Maddie - on TWITTER.
"Madeleine is out there." Said many who allegedly adored science fiction and all things where no data is required.
Think Hitchcock, thing Spielberg, think Tarantino, think Film Noire, in fact, think of it all, for there are no limits to the imagination or lack of light at the end of Gerry's esoteric vision of a....TUNNEL, it had to be.
But of course, only a tunnel with the otherworldly bright white light would do.
Anyhow, I didn't mean to digress or take liberties, Textusa. It's just a little something maybe worth remembering, that Madeleine IS 'out there'.
She's not, but that's besides the point. The McCann couple are hooked in big time, and the press and MSM in general are still playing pass the hot potato swag bag around the realms of a dying trade, and....KERCHING!!! For now.
As a seemingly cunning back-up plan to Brueckner being the perpetrator of an abduction, Martin Ney is back in the picture. Ney is serving a life sentence in Germany for 3 child murders and 40 sexual assaults. He was named as a suspect by the McCanns’ private investigators in 2011; presumably the questionable Metodo 3, who were still employed by them in 2011.
Ney was extradited to France on January 22nd , for questioning over the murder of 10 year old Jonathan Coulom in 2004. The French authorities have been given 8 months to carry out the investigation. The TV station RTL claimed Ney would also be interviewed by Scotland Yard.
According to the Star on January 24th, Ney was quizzed earlier by the police after his resemblance to the sketch of a prowler outside the McCann apartment. Ney is reported to have visited Portugal at some point in the 1990s and early 2000s, but in 2007, he was living in Hamburg, where he was employed as a youth worker with Evangelischen Jugendhilfe Friedenshort. Presumably, they have records of his work with them in May 2007. As in the case of Brueckner, Ney is alleged to have made a confession to a cellmate.
The UK police have not requested the extradition of Brueckner to the UK for questioning and may have missed any opportunity to do so, as the UK is no longer a member of the EU. As far as we know, he still hasn’t been questioned by the German authorities.
According to the Mirror, the German and Portuguese investigators will carry out new interviews in the Algarve and a summit of German, Portuguese and British detectives will take place in Lisbon in the spring. Witnesses have been put on standby.
This is where it starts to get more interesting.
According to an article written in 2019, by Martin Fricker, Ney was in Portugal at the time of M’s disappearance and a former resort worker claimed they saw Ney in Praia da Luz before Maddie disappeared, staring intently at them as they drank in an Algarve bar. (“them” seems to be a way of avoiding saying whether this person is male or female, rather than meaning more than one person) This person claimed to recognise Ney after seeing his photo in the Sun newspaper. Ney was there “for a fact”.
The ex -Mark Warner employee saw Ney shortly after arriving in PdL in April 2007 and at the Baptista supermarket, saying “I have a good memory for faces”. The witness was later moved to another resort in Greece. The report concludes with the fact that Scotland Yard had spoken to their German counterparts several years ago and ruled out the involvement of Ney as he was only interested in young boys.
From this report, it can be deduced that the witness was a nanny, as some nanny staff were reportedly moved to Greece. This is confirmed by another article by Fricker and co., written on June 6th 2020, when he reports that a” Resort nanny quizzed by the police over a new suspect, 5 days after M disappeared”.
Here, the suspect is Brueckner, not Ney.
“A nanny who looked after M was shown a picture of a German paedophile, she was told his name on May 8th 2007 at the McCanns’ holiday apartment… She was shown an identikit on the day after they took my statement”. Assuming this is the order of events - May 6th, nanny makes her statement (where there is no reference to photos or identikits, as with all the nannies) May 7 nanny is shown an identikit, May 8th, nanny is told his name, at the apartment.
If this is the order of events, the nanny is likely to be Cat Baker, who made her statement on May 6th, 2007, translated by Robert Murat. However, in her rogatory interview in 2008, no mention is made of names or identikits and she says she never noticed anyone suspicious. She does confirm that she had been in Portugal since March 21st 2007, which may be consistent with the unnamed ex Mark warner employee who had seen Ney shortly after arriving in PdL, in April 2007. Depending on whether she means she saw him in April, shortly after SHE had arrived in PdL (on March 21st).
March 21st? Or May 21st in accordance with Brunt and co.'s original 'they've been here for two weeks' line? If you're going to mix it up, numbers are more difficult to remember than words, for most people that I've encountered, that is. The official arrival date was, or at least became the 28th, but is that true? Is any of it true? With the exception of Madeleine's departure, of course. Are there any genuinely authentic summer season 2007 employees who will attest officially to the OC nannies working at a MW resort in Greece? My money is on NO.
I meant the 21st of April, as oppose to May. They officially arrived on the 28th of April, it's totally my mistake and I meant the 21st of April which is the actual timeline referred to by Brunt and ostensible acolytes.
Apologies for the inaccuracy, getting the date wrong by one whole month is not a good thing, we've had enough of that already.
Thank you for the reminder, I'll slap the back of my own hand now. Brain damage and far worse, as a direct result of abhorrent lies in kangaroo courts tends to have that effect on some people. Their fault, Gamble, Brunt and flock, not mine.
Your laconic sarcasm is more enlightening than the retrofitted skylights in the builder beige eyesore.
Cat Baker had visited the McCanns at their home in November 2007, before her rogatory interview. If she was the nanny concerned, did she mention the identikit and name to them?
Could Cat Baker also be the anonymous Mark Warner employee who we deduced to have been a nanny and who claimed to have seen Ney in Praia da Luz, in the Baptista supermarket?
Or were there 2 nannies who independently claim to have seen Ney and Brueckner respectively? Her/ their identities are known to Fricker, so he may be able to assist regarding any witnesses who are on standby to be interviewed.
It would be remarkable if both of these notorious individuals, Ney and Brueckner had been in the area at the same time, along with the deceased Euclides Monteiro, whose phone signal was also said to have placed him in the same area that night.
We find it extremely difficult to believe an ECHR spokesman has discussed the progress of a case with the press.
Its own website has a question and answer information sheet for applicants: “How can I obtain information on a case?” “The court cannot answer all the requests it receives for information about the progress of cases pending before it.”
Applicants can go online for cases pending and check the present state of proceedings in the case, as described in the article.
Before the case is communicated to the state of Portugal, it has to be ruled as admissable.
The article has put words into the mouth of the “spokesman” as the spokesman here is declaring that the first stage of being ruled admissible has already taken place and the next stage is communicating to the state but the article then goes on to describe the correct process and the current state of the application, which shows ADMISSIBILITY HAS NOT YET BEEN DECIDED.
All that is shown on the present application is that if has met the requirements on the application form for it to be considered by the ECHR.
So why are we being fed false information about a decision by spring?
And why would be (are, according to the rag) the McCanns able to obtain information that isn’t available other applicants?
Lastly, we find it fascinating and deeply troubling that even though the media is witnessing the damage society – and itself as well – as suffered as result of the continued perseverance in pushing obvious lies – or the true peddling of fake news – the British tabloids insist on the same formula.
Another thing, as the ECHR deals with over 45 thousand cases per year on average and deals with cases according to urgency rather than according to the date of applications, it seems to us unlikely that a non-urgent case submitted in 2017 would be dealt with by spring 2021.
The Smith family was the one contacting the authorities upon seeing on TV the image of Gerry McCann walking down the stairs of the plane on their return to England. That image apparently jolted the memory of the family regarding the man they saw with a girl on his arms in the Rua da Escola Primária on the night of May 3.
Martin Smith contacted DC John Hughes of Leicester Police on 20 September 2007.
Here is the link which should answer the questions you asked.
“PLEASE DO NOT PUBLISH” fully identified reader at at 12 Feb 2021, 15:49:00,
Apologies for such a late reply.
From our reading, it isn’t normal procedure to keep applicants informed of the process of any decisions before a judgement is made.
The McCann/Healy application was received by the ECHR in July 2017 and acknowledged on August 8 2017.
No further action has been recorded on the site since this date.
Not disputing your information but can’t understand the discrepancy with the guidelines in this link: https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Your_Application_ENG.pdf
McCann Healy case was communicated to the State of Portugal on 14/1/2021.
Importance level 3. ECHR level 3 case: “Low importance- judgements, decisions and advisory opinions of little legal interest... simply applying existing case-law, friendly settlements and strike outs...”
Article 6 6-2 - Right to a fair trial
Article 8 8-1 – Right to respect for private and family life.
Seems the McCanns have made their case stick at the ECHR.
As far as we know, this means Portugal are asked to respond in some way but not to dispute the court findings.
We think these may only be published when Portugal has responded, as the next step could be a friendly settlement or if not, a publication of the judgement on the ECHR website.
So, it seems isn’t about the urgency of a case but whether it would mean certain legal issues were involved. They may be of low legal significance in that it applies existing legislation/law rather than a challenge to the legislation.
After a case has been communicated to the state and the possibility of friendly settlement.
State can respond and it seems as if the response can have some influence as to how the application proceeds.
As a written document will eventually be available, we’ll eventually find out. Initially, friendly settlement procedure is confidential, but I don’t know whether that means it won’t appear on ECHR website, or whether the details won’t be outlined but the fact of a FS being reached would be.
Maybe some readers may be able to offer more expert knowledge?
In the communicated case to the State of Portugal, 2 questions were posed to the parties. Article 6 6-2 - Right to a fair trial- Article 8 8-1 – Right to respect for private and family life.
We’ll begin to address the second question, regarding Article 6 6-2 - Right to a fair trial: “Has the presumption of innocence guaranteed by Article 6-2 of the Convention been respected in the present case having regard to the reasoning contained in the decisions handed down on 31 January and 21 March by the Supreme Court (see, Allen v. The United Kingdom no 25424/09- 94 ECHR 2013)?”
The case referred to was brought by a woman who served 3 years imprisonment for the manslaughter of her baby son. She did not appeal her sentence at the time.
Following her release, certain facts (regarding shaken baby syndrome) came to light which rendered her original conviction unsafe but no re-trial was ordered. Her original conviction was quashed.
She took her case for miscarriage of justice through the U.K. courts, with a claim for compensation but was unsuccessful.
Her case in the ECHR was heard by a panel of judges of the Grand Chamber.
The issue of presumption of innocence was considered by the Grand Chamber as part of their deliberations.
The case was communicated to the UK, who contested the application.
The ECHR did not find in her favour.
The case referred to is in no way similar in its details to the case brought by McCann/Healy, but the Portuguese state is being asked to respond to the reasoning contained in the Allen case with regard to the presumption of innocence guaranteed by Article 6-2 of the Convention as it applies to this case.
As we are not qualified to interpret a legal document, we won’t attempt to summarise the reasoning in this lengthy and densely argued case of Allen and suggest readers read it for themselves and check if our summary adequately reflects the very basic facts of the case.
However, it does show that the communication of the case to Portugal does not guarantee that the McCann/ Healy case will prevail in its arguments.
We will look at question 1 about the applicants’ rights to respect for their private life, in relation to GA’s book and documentary, at a later date, as a number of previous cases are quoted which will take some time to read.
Portugal is asked if their domestic courts adequately balanced respect to private life of the parties and the rights of their opponents to freedom of expression.
Questions to the parties 1 “Was there an infringement of the applicants’ right to respect for their private life, within the meaning of Article 8-1 of the Convention ( see, Axel Springer AG v. Germany no 39954/08, section 83 7 February 2012; and Larranaga Arando and Others v. Spain (dec) (Nos.73911/16, 233/17, 3086 and 5515/17 section 42, 25 June 2019) with regard in particular to the allegations made by GA in the disputed book and documentary? In particular, did the respondent State comply with its positive obligations aimed at guaranteeing the applicants the right to respect for their “private life” within the meaning of Article 8 of the Convention?”
In addition, in their decisions, did the domestic courts carry out an adequate balance, in accordance with the criteria established by the Court’s case-law, between the the applicants’ right to respect for their private life and the right of the parties? opponents of freedom of expression ( see Von Hannover ( no 2) nos 40660/08 and 60641/08 sections 108-113 ECHR 2012 Axel Springer AG, cited above sections 89-95, and Bedat v. Switzerland no 56925/08 sections 52-54, ECHR 2016)?”
We will comment later on the first case we give a link to, LA and Others v Spain, as this is the shortest case to read. Others to follow.
Having read the ECHR press release on the case against the State of Spain, it’s not clear to us why this case is quoted in the Questions to the Parties 1, as the press release relates to the presumption of innocence under Article 6 section 2, whereas the questions relate to applicants respect for private life Article 8 section 1 of the Convention.
Reading the case in full from the Polish translation of the ECHR ruling doesn’t clarify anything for us.
The wording which could be significant to the ref to Amaral is the applicants’ argument that exclusion (from compensation) “could only be based on a criminal conviction and not on mere suspicions in police reports.”
The police reports “which indicated that the applicants’ relatives had been members of the ETA terrorist organisation. These reports referred to different sources (statements made by other ETA members, press articles and publications related to ETA).”
As already stated, we are not legally qualified to interpret these documents, so this is only an observation.
The relevance of this case to GA’s book and video is more obvious.
There were 2 dissenting judges at the final hearing.
The boxes below the written piece are worth opening for further information
The case covers what is confidential information in court proceedings and how much can be published legitimately.
Amaral’s situation did not involve court proceedings in progress, so seemingly, not directly comparable, although the balance of underlying principles may be.
Th Von Hannover case concerns publication in the press of photographs of the royal family of Monaco and sets out the criteria to be followed when balancing the right to privacy - Article 8 against the right to freedom of expression Article 10, which is exactly what the Lisbon trial was only about.
Although the McCann/Healy case does not relate to photographs as far as we are aware, the first 4 criteria can be applied in the case against the State of Portugal.
If readers look at the Axel Springer case on the ECHR website. paras 89-95, referred to in the Mccann/Healy communicated case of 14/1/2021, discussion of the criteria is covered in detail.
We would like to remind our readers that the Portuguese Supreme Court referred to many examples of ECHR case law in its judgement, including the case of Allen v UK 2013. See pages 12 and 68 of the SCJ judgement.
The PSC did not refer to the cases of Axel Springer and Von Hannover 2012, or Bedat 2016.
The case of Larranaga 2019 was after the PSC in 2017.
Are you still paying reasonably close attention to Dame Dick and cohorts? Substantial improvement and closer scrutiny has still gone largely unaddressed. For crying out loud, the poor woman is a bag of nerves in front of their reliable friends in the British media.
Why are their 'operations', imagery, constructs and penchant for numbers so consistently inconsistent? Just kidding!
Kindly remain distracted, and if you utter a word you're a deranged sicko. Got it? Have you really got it? Have you really, really, really, got it? Good. Now, stfu.
Stay well, Textusa and sisters, and have a nice, sun-filled afternoon X
This is the information to applicants which will have been sent to the McCanns, as the first 2 paras now appear on their application on the ECHR website.
Note the information about another Contracting State, which suggests the UK will be invited to take part in the proceedings. Unless anyone knows of a reason why this section would not apply:
“9. Intervention of another Contracting State: If you are a national of a Contracting State other thanthe respondent State, the Government of that State will be invited to take part in the proceedings(see Article 36 § 1 and Rule 44). You will be informed of that Government’s response.”
More funding. Funding, meaning basically salaries.
The prosecution, or not, of CB now lies with the German authorities, not the UK.
At least this shows that Operation Grange have put all their eggs in the one basket of CB being the object of their investigation.
As they were responsible for setting Germany off in pursuit of Brueckner, after the interview of the criminal Helge Busching in the Athens hotel, by OG detective Mark and colleague, they can share the blame with Germany when this goes nowhere.
We’re still hoping it will result in the prosecution of Brueckner, to open the facts of the Maddie case to the fresh air of re-investigation.
This blog article from 2017 deals with the right of presumption of innocence; one of the issues now before the ECHR, the other being respect for private life.
The jurist commenting here clarifies the contradictions and confusion contained in the Archiving Despatch, between Articles 277-1 and 277-2 of the Code of Criminal Procedure and the reliance of the McCanns on 277-1.
They claim under 277-1 they were found not to be those who committed the crime and were therefore exonerated, rather than 277-2, which is based on insufficiency of evidence, which the Supreme Court says does not equate to a declaration of innocence.
The opinion of the jurist is that the McCanns’ application for annulment of the SCJ ruling was more than a dilatory strategy and was to enable them to have an argument to proceed with a complaint to the ECHR.
The application for annulment was unsuccessful, as the jurist predicted.
A clarification regarding the ECHR and Questions to the parties 1 and 2.
The questions referring to cases already adjudicated on by the ECHR are questions posed by the ECHR to both parties; the McCanns and the State of Portugal.
Allen v the UK 2013 was referenced by the Portuguese Supreme Court, so it may be that the McCanns did not use it to support their application and are now being requested to do so.
We know the other cases were not referenced by the PSCJ but the cases referenced in the McCann application are unknown.
I wonder if you haven't touched upon something relatively unknown in these cases, the PSC referenced a good handful of previously adjudicated cases by the ECHR in their upholding the appeal by Amaral, were the McCann's then meant to use the same ECHR judgements to show the interpretation of them by the SC wrong and have now been asked to clarify.
This case, one of several referenced by the ECHR in its questions to the parties, seems, from our perspective of laypersons, to be the only one which may support the McCanns’ application in some, but not all respects; in that the ECHR found in favour of the State of Switzerland and against the applicant’s case for freedom of expression.
As we’ve already said, this case involved a case in the court process, whereas the McCanns were never brought before a criminal court.
It also involves information obtained illicitly (rather than illegally), whereas the information used by Amaral was already in the public domain.
This paper outlines the controversial nature of the case and its implications.
Its the brit press, but they were right about some movement earlier last month. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14472108/madeleine-mccann-parents-friendly-settlement/
This is the stage the McCann case has reached - the non-contentious stage.
It is likely the Portuguese State has responded within the 12-week period, to the case law examples referenced by the ECHR in January.
Under Friendly Settlements para 2, a declaration can be sent to the parties.
Alternatively, no declaration is sent and both parties have 12 weeks to indicate their position regarding a FS.
The contentious phase only begins if the parties cannot reach agreement.
IF a declaration has been sent, the terms of the declaration are set by the ECHR, which suggests to us that the court would have made its position on the application clear to both sides.
Both sides then have 12 weeks to respond.
FS procedures are being increasingly used by the ECHR to deal with the backlog of cases and are used when cases involve well established case law.
Some seem not to understand the ECHR as they are stating the court wouldn’t propose friendly settlements, but then again, these people in the past had no qualms whatsoever to state absurdities as facts of the case.
This is first of 2 articles which shows the issues the McCanns would have to consider IF they have been presented with a Friendly Settlement declaration by the ECHR.
If the court has proposed a concrete compensation amount and the State acknowledges human rights’ violations and undertakes to pay the compensation, the applicant accepting the proposed sum undertakes NOT to initiate another compensation procedure for the injustice suffered, since it has been remedied.
What would be the implications of that undertaking for the applicants?
The law blog considers the negative aspects of FS compared to procedures prior to 2018. The McCanns made their application in 2017.
Prior to 2018, the ECHR simply informed the parties of the possibility of concluding with a FS and only put forward specific proposals in a limited category of cases.
Cases seen so far under the new procedures by the writer Jessica Gavron merely consisted of ex -gratia payments with no acknowledgment by the State of any violations.
The writer considers that an offer of a FS from the court to be an “inescapable signal sent to the applicant is that the court considers the case not to warrant further consideration; that the payment is not required to be in recognition of any violations and that no non- monetary provisions, such as undertakings to investigate, are required”
The case could be struck out if the applicants decline a FS.
Both situations referred to, with big IFs, suggest the McCanns, IF they are offered a FS, have to consider the implications of not being able to pursue any further claims and the possibility of the State not being required to acknowledge any violations have occurred.
It may be that their case will move from the compulsory (as stated here) non- contentious stage to the contentious stage, if both parties fail to agree to a FS.
Sonia Poulton has started her own Fighting Fund, I thought you might like to know. Apparently she's having problems with several people, Carter-Ruck and the McCanns are mentioned in her latest online piece, it's worth a read - I think, maybe? Perhaps?
Whether you agree with her spurious facts approach or not, it's interesting to stay somewhat abreast of the ongoing drama and minutiae thereof.
She never did reveal the shocking information which we were all not going to believe about who she discovered was behind keeping the lost in space narrative alive, did she?
How did she gain vital personal data of poor Miss Leyland's address prior to the village being common knowledge, it wasn't anywhere online until Brunt's bad acting stunt was completed on amateur dramatics day.
I did wonder about that at the time and then shortly dismissed it once I realised the woman was short on facts and if I may say so, arrogantly stubborn and with an unhealthy unwillingness to listen - to boot.
Frankly, I think there's a touch of loop the loop amongst too many of the major wannabe gangsta players on all sides of the buried coin. Three sheets and all that lovely karmic jazz, maybe?
Rude, ill-mannered, parochial and severely, that word again, "limited" at least in the old sifting and filtering department, me thinks.
Shedloads of dough have been made out of this, unless someone loses the ego, every penny will be paid back tenfold after someone dies IMO, poor kids, the sins of the fathers weigh heavily for generations to come.
Oliver Cromwell will look like a street corner fish hawker when all this is done, GUARUNTEED. It's their own fault for not growing an inch. They've not all been investigated yet, TV personalities et al, the challenge is far too easy and must be strategically nurtured, fully embracing the last drop of truth.
Missing People, largely funded by the British taxpayer nowadays, were on their knees in 06, go figure? And then some. Kate and Gerry, Madeleine, blah blah blah - irrelevant.
Thank you for everything. Miss May S. March (long-time observer and supporter).
Just checking out the details as I’m not familiar with what’s been going on, but subject to corrections from anyone who does, this is my understanding. John M, the former MP, has taken court action against SP for falsely accusing him of child abuse. Darren L has also taken court action for similar allegations against him, which is at the pre-hearing stage. I also understand certain allegations made against him resulted in him being arrested but not subsequently charged. as a result of those allegations and that SP had to disclose the names of others involved with her in the case of Darren L. As far as I’m aware, John M has an unblemished record and Darren L has a previous conviction unrelated to child abuse, as reported in the press.
I have read her side. Who is she? And why is she selling fiction as fact? She knows absolutely zero about what happened to Madeleine Beth.
And yes, she's very subjectively judgemental, is beyond clueless in this affair, doesn't actually care a damn in terms of what she's meddling in and is as out of her depth in sorting the wheat from the proverbial as is the boastful American kindergarten detective.
They are more of a superfluous irritation than anything. She believes any old fool before she'll take the time to put the necessary work in, starting by learning how to conduct a successful investigation.
I'll listen to her, if she listens to fact, truth and reason. And apologises for her childish nasty words, all saved. Otherwise - no, not interested. If I believed she was a genuine truth-seeker and exercised a modicum of humility, she would not find a better supporter and a more effective bodyguard than me :) Modest. Just joking.
I'm probably the least remarkable person you'll find around this greedy circus, but lying is not my bag, that is reserved only for extenuating/have no choice in the matter - circumstances. Hello Gerry and Kate.
She used a misogynistic, wrong-footed, egomaniacal rage machine as a dependable source for her TRUTH DOC, outrageous incompetence at best.
They are a bad mix, those ignorant people on Twitter and such, those who obstinately refuse to see, and then they label others with their contemptuous words and haughty imperious certainty.
When, in the cold light of day, in the actual real world, they are in fact, quite easy to manipulate.
Two well-known McCann-centred, alleged related professionals, are a perfect example of this, one day, their words, I'm sorry to say, will make them look incredibly stupid.
Which is ironic really, because they seem to think they are in some kind of secretive selective club that have the inside scoop, when they know virtually nothing at all because they have followed the breadcrumbs laid out for them to find.
And they've swallowed them, hook, line and sinker.
They're still at it, the Madeleine died on Sunday brigade. No she didn't, that is preposterous.
Start at the outset, not anywhere you choose, and on the basis of an image and a cleaner, a cleaner you say? Prove it.
It's not a lucky dip for life's sensationally motivated superstar wannabes, you know! It's not a game where you have the opportunity to show off how "SPECIAL" you are.
Who sent S.P. to Rosalinda Hutton's blog in 2014? Why then? Why such an unremarkable place that attracts very few visitors? Why There? Why then? Why her, 7 years down the line?
Rah rah rah, Rosalinda. Did she keep in regular touch? Doubt it.
And I reiterate, Brenda Leyland's address in Leicester. How did she obtain it? Who told her? And why did she not scout the territory and ask questions whilst she had ample opportunity?
Look, I know nothing, and even I would do that, it's normal inquisitive human behaviour. Wouldn't you think?
Something's not right, sisters. Summat stinks!
Cheers for being fair to her though, she has positive strengths, I'm sure, but the negative ones are outweighing them at the moment it seems.
Another great shame.
As an aside, you'll never guess who is in my house right now, Daniel Craig's neighbour, (interesting info, LOL!) it's a small world - but I'd rather it be an honest and decent one - the entertainment/news industry is severely f****d up and this case exemplifies that unfortunate contemporary absolute - in spades.
The inevitable happened, Mrs. McFadden is onboard with assisting S.P.s' fighting fund. She can't win, mainly because of her own lack of insight and the fact she has refused to, calm down, back down and think about it.
She has accused the wrong people and accused innocent individuals of the most heinous crimes. She has no evidence, she can't prove anything, in fact, the contrary of that is true. She has accepted diabolically untrue data as fact. If no one is ready to do a deal with her they'll throw the book at the meddlesome derailing imposter imo.
Which children has she saved, without mentioning real names and compromising legally protected data? How many? How many crimes has she been instrumental in bringing to their rightful conclusion?
Observe how and whom finances her flights of fancy. It's bound to be the chosen few, the ones who know how to decipher and encrypt data where no one else but them on tinternet can do.
Every single one of them are looking for heroes in all the wrong places, why is that? My guess is that they are hooked on mainstream perceptions of credibility. In short, they will only believe the manufactured version of the truth when it tells them what they want to hear on Sky News.
It's a sensible time now for the businessman Rupert Murdoch to start exposing the real crooks, go for it, turn the tables. It's the right thing to do from a cause and effect perspective. It will elevate your soul in preparation for what must come to pass.
Textusa, do you remember that account from ages ago on Twitter called Dirtypurpleturtles? I cannot for the life of me remember how it was written, I know it's eons back but something just pinged and I'm trying to find out about a video that was on YouTube but taken down after a fair amount of time for some unknown reason.
It's important if you or any of your 5 readers can help out.
News 13th April Niece branded 'despicable' as she is jailed for £122,000 fraud
By Graeme Hetherington graemeecho Crime & Court Reporter
A WOMAN who fleeced her elderly aunt out of £122,000 has been branded ‘despicable and wicked’ as she was jailed for two years.
Karen Sanders spent four years draining the cash from the pensioner’s bank accounts to fund her lavish lifestyle.
To cover her tracks, she created a number of forged bank statements to convince her frail aunt that her finances were in good health.
The victim, who is in her 80s, was left penniless after Karen Sanders emptied all of her bank accounts when she was given power of attorney over her aunt's financial affairs.
Judge Recorder Taryn Turner said: “I will say from the outset of the most despicable treachery and wickedness and will send a chill to the heart of many who are encouraged to entrust the running of their financial affairs to their friends, family or supporters, as they themselves face the decline in health and mobility as they grow older.”
Teesside Crown Court heard how Sanders emptied more than £80,000 from the pensioner’s accounts as well as securing loans in her aunt’s name bringing the total deception to £122,000.
The judge added: “This was a sinister, callous and wicked deceit because behind your aunt’s back, over a period of four years, you systematically abused the trust and faith your aunt put in you in order to clean out her bank accounts.
“Taking something in excess of £122,000 but worse still were the steps you took to cover the tracks of your dishonesty. You used a computer to manufacture false bank statements that you could then show to your aunt to convince her that her finances were in a healthy state - when plainly they were not.”
The 63-year-old former NHS worker had pleaded guilty to three charges, including fraud by abuse of position, fraud by false representation and making articles for use in fraud.
The court had heard how the defendant had initially borrowed some of her aunt’s money when she was suffering financial difficulties but failed to repay any of the cash, instead spending it on holidays and designer goods. The judge praised the victim’s bank for reimbursing all of the money that had been drained from the victim’s accounts.
Sanders, formerly of St Johns Garth, Thirsk, was also made the subject of an indefinite restraining order.
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hodgie1 13th April 12:39 pm User ID: 17003 They should throw away the key! Last Updated: 13th April 7:47 pm
Homshaw1 13th April 1:01 pm User ID: 295165 Not sure why the bank are responsible. Yes they should throw away the key. Last Updated: 13th April 7:47 pm
News 13th April Elderly aunt left devastated after niece fleeced £122,000 out of her bank accounts
By Graeme Hetherington graemeecho Crime & Court Reporter
A WOMAN who fleeced her frail, elderly aunt out of more than £100,00 has been warned she is facing custody after leaving the vulnerable pensioner virtually penniless.
Karen Sanders emptied the bank accounts of the victim, who is in her 80s, over a four year period after she was made power of attorney over her aunt's financial affairs.
The 63-year-old is accused of using the money to fund her lavish lifestyle, including buying designer clothes, watches and handbags, as she relentlessly drained her aunt of all of her financial assets.
Teesside Crown Court heard how Sanders would do the pensioner's shopping whilst also dipping into the victim's savings for herself.
Ian West, prosecuting, said the defendant was 'more than likely' to be the soul beneficiary of her aunt's estate when she died.
He said: "The defendant, in order to cover her tracks, used a computer to manufacture false bank statements which she would show to her aunt to convince her that her accounts were in a healthy state.
"Whereas when the fraud was discovered in 2019 they had been pretty much stripped bare.
"The defendant, it seems, spent the money on the high life style."
Police seized dozens of expensive designer handbags, shoes, jewellery and sunglasses when her house was searched.
Mr West said the victim described Sanders as her 'one and only niece' and she has 'betrayed me in the most dreadful manner'.
The court heard how the victim was left £2,000 overdrawn when Sanders' offending came to light – leaving the pensioner out of pocket by £122,000.
Mr West said the stolen money was replaced by the victim's bank but the impact of the deception had had a traumatic affect on the pensioner.
Sanders, formerly of St Johns Garth, Thirsk, pleaded guilty to three charges, including fraud by abuse of position, fraud by false representation and making articles for use in fraud.
Kelleigh Lodge, in mitigation, said her client had initially borrowed some of the money to help her out when she hit financial difficulties but accepts she never paid the money back.
She said: "She did plead guilty at the lower court and when interview by police she made admissions and gave a detailed account of her offending."
Sanders will be sentenced this morning.
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DownRoverDown 13th April 12:03 pm User ID: 1945793 There are people in this world that one can trust, absolutely. However, they are not necessarily your blood relations! Patterns of spending and withdrawals. The old lady's bank should have questioned the patterns of withdrawals. In reimbursing the lady they have given a nod to this.
stevegg 13th April 12:13 pm User ID: 105561 Disgusted by her actions. She was in a position of trust and exploited it for her own selfish gain. The bank also has a duty to question large and frequent withdrawals, vulnerable customers should be identified to them.
News 13th April Pensioner's heartbreak as she is 'knocked for six' by niece's £122,000 fraud
By Graeme Hetherington graemeecho Crime & Court Reporter
A PENSIONER has spoken of her heartbreak after being fleeced of more than £120,000 by her own niece.
The victim, who is in her 80s, was left penniless after Karen Sanders emptied all of her bank accounts when she was given power of attorney over her aunt's financial affairs.
In an emotional victim impact statement, the pensioner said she couldn't believe her own niece had targeted her savings to fund her lavish lifestyle.
"It's knocked me for six," she said. "How could she sit there and tell me the lies which rolled off her tongue because she said all the beautiful things I would comment on had come from eBay.
"I just believed every word that she said.
"I wasn't too well and I'm certainly not too grand now."
At the time of the statement, he frail pensioner didn't know that her bank would refund all of the lost £122,000.
The widow added: "I just can't believe that she could be so deceitful and dishonest while looking me in the eye.
"I don't know how long I live and I don't know what the future is going to hold and I think that is the worst of all – wondering about the house and its contents because I love it.
"It has just knocked me for six – I can't put it any other way."
Sanders, formerly of Thirsk, will be sentenced this morning after pleading guilty to three charges, including fraud by abuse of position, fraud by false representation and making articles for use in fraud.
Anonymous @ 23.27pm Has Shell offered to find it for you? She's one of the five readers and she keeps files of everybody's videos and tweets. She has a file from when she set the police on Elaine and Debbie, and files on KLS and Isabelle McFadden's businesses. Though she doesn't have to keep quiet about KLS any longer. How many people in the gang are honest enough to do a day's work and earn their own money? Are they all on drugs and benefits and committing fraud?
Thank you. Though I have no idea who these people are beyond some of their more comprehensible, yet acerbically spiky tweets. Madeleine and common sense doesn't factor into the equation of screechy scream-y attention-seekers.
Shell's lawyer and police won't help her when they find out what she is involved in. The only way she could afford to choose a lawyer, is if Isabelle paid for it. Though if Isabelle gives Shell the same job as she gave her daughter for a month, Shell could earn thousands of dollars.
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Carry this type of claim on & I will contact my lawyer & police. As for your ''pals?'' I suggest they remember THEY'VE had a police visit themselves - oh and remember it was KAREN who you believed regarding my investigation? I can reopen it ANY TIME #mccann
In addition to her 2 year prison sentence, BRC was made subject to an indefinite restraining order.
Isn't that so interesting? Why did the judge consider this necessary?
One can only presume the judge perceived possible risk of repetition of certain actions. An evident pattern in the character of the condemned criminal, we would say.
Under the section Proceedings, the ECHR may decide that the observations by the State and the friendly settlement proceedings can occur at the same time.
How that works in practice with the different timescales isn’t made clear.
Doug D, in another forum, has estimated the timescale for a response as May 6th and he may be correct if the State make use of the full 16 weeks given for their response.
If the Friendly Settlement procedure is running in parallel, then the time scale is 12 weeks for the non-contentious stage, followed by another 12 weeks for the contentious stage, as from January 14th.
If nothing appears on the court website in the next couple of weeks, it may indicate that there has been no agreement.
We have already said in the past that one of the best pieces of advice that we have received came from a very wise person who one day told me “whenever possible, never react immediately to any information, rather let 3 or 4 days to pass by and so allow for all the snow in the globe to settle and also give your adversaries all the opportunities to make all the mistakes they want as freely as they can”. Very wise words, indeed.
As the reader will quickly understand this comment is about Big Round Convict, formerly known as the Big Round Chihuahua, Karen Lowe Sanders.
This is the second time a member of the Lick-Spittle gang has been caught scamming.
The other time was Zora with her We’restarvingfraudFund (to be clear, quoting from the text used in the Fund, “Some nights she [the mum, Zora] has gone without dinner so that us kids could eat”).
Now, KLS has stolen the life-savings from her elderly aunt to buy expensive handbags among other things, while then Zora took the money from, among others, this particular contribution of a 14 yr old girl to spend by going to watch a concert among other things:
“XXXXXX XXXXXXX donated £5 i can’t imagine being in such a terrible situation, i’m sorry i can’t give much (i’m only 14) but i hope this helps. i really hope your situation gets better, no human deserves to be in this position ❤”
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We are certain that those £5 represented a lot to that young teenager with a heart of gold a lot. And we sincerely hope that she never got to find out how she was scammed out of them.
When this scam was exposed, the gang used the minor in whose name the GoFraud text was signed as a shield to twist the disgraceful and evident reality that a scam had taken place and that money had been taken from people with good hearts who were duped into contributing.
It’s irrelevant as to who really wrote those words – some who know Zora very well assure us that it was Zora herself and not the minor writing them. One has to be over 16 to set up a GoFundMe account unless an adult is involved in setting it up. So it couldn’t be done without the adult’s knowledge or consent. Zora would later recognise she was fully in agreement with it all.
Psychological projection is a common trait of the evil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
And like clockwork, Jules has to used it, concerning KLS:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385281529388097537 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @EsMiluLatvijuxx, @feckinseriouss and 5 others They couldn't give a toss about Karen's aunt, they're using Karen's aunt to troll us whilst trying, but failing to take the moral high ground.. Not forgetting libelling some of us by claiming we not only knew what Karen was up to, but benefited from it too.. #McCann 6:17 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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As the reader can see, this is a very good example of psychological projection regarding the GoFraud scam as it projects the feelings of the gang in relation to the minor they used as a shield.
One just has to replace “Karen’s aunt” for “the minor” and the statement becomes 100% accurate: The gang couldn't give a toss about the minor, they used the minor to troll us whilst trying, but failing to take the moral high ground…
Anyone could see how disgusting the scam was but for the gang it did not matter if the GoFund text was a twaddle of tear-jerking lies (Zora would later detail in exactly what she spent the money scammed), for the gang it didn’t matter innocent people were duped into giving their money away, for the gang it didn’t matter if a 14yr was scammed out of her pocket money because for the gang it only mattered how it was known about the scam.
For the gang, the acquirement of that knowledge was the only thing which happened that should be criticised and shamed. And they persistently did that.
Those who exposed the disgusting scam were the baddies whilst Zora continued to be the saint in the gang’s good grace.
Interesting that now, of all the accusations made against Elaine, “child-stalking” was not among of them. Maybe because the similarities between what happened then and the crime now committed are too close for comfort.
Now, the gang’s amorality has shown itself again, with a court handing out a clear verdict and respective sentence.
The gang’s problem? This time there’s no child to use as a shield and hide behind.
In the absence of a minor, what did the gang resort to? An alleged suicide note.
An alleged suicide note that allegedly mentioned Elaine, so has said Jules:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385209748254085128 Jules ♡@jules999x Ben hasn't tweeted about anything you lying bore.. Yes, being named on a suicide note like you [Elaine] were is as bad in my books.. You're a multi sock devious troll, regardless of what Karen has done.. Yea, I'm sure Karen would have told us she was fleecing her aunt... 🤡 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzlA7JTXEAAA5UV?format=jpg&name=medium 1:31 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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The revelation of this alleged suicide note caught, supposedly, the gang totally by surprise. Here is Silverdoe’s reaction:
***** https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385211219448143873 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @Phoenixrises_12 You don't know the half of it Shell.. 1:37 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
***** https://twitter.com/Phoenixrises_12/status/1385211398612045827 SilverPhoenixShell@Phoenixrises_12 Replying to @jules999x Apparently I do - seriously Jules? Bloody hell 🤦 1:38 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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So, on April 22, Silverdoe states clearly that she has never heard of it before nor has the faintest idea who the alleged person with suicidal thoughts may be.
Silverdoe, who knows all, apparently didn’t know anything about this surprising bombshell. Silverdoe who DMs about everything decides to express publicly “I won't ask who for their privacy's sake”. Go figure.
Another “member” of the gang, Geeky (we say “member” because it’s clearly a collective account used by the various members of the gang) was NOT surprised but on reading such dramatic news didn’t give a rat’s behind about Jules’ friend who allegedly was being pushed over the edge.
https://twitter.com/gkylilghost/status/1385213562612850688 geeky@gkylilghost Replying to @jules999x I can only assume from this that were elaine to find herself facing the same news about someone close to her she wouldn't be surprised. 1:47 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter Web App
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Rather an insensitive “person” Geeky showed itself to be… but at least Geeky wasn’t surprised, unlike Silverdoe supposedly was.
As this was in the context of KLS’s criminal behaviour, one assumed that this alleged suicide note had been written by KLS. Jules says it could not be:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385247791283425280 Jules ♡@jules999x Where has anyone blamed others for what Karen did.. Who mentioned Karen was the one you all helped pushed towards suicide.. Come on mouth.. Show us.. #McCann https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzljhcqXIAAcp3X?format=jpg&name=360x360 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzljhmBXIAIwHZo?format=jpg&name=360x360 4:03 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
***** https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385255964228657154 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @feckinseriouss, @carmarsutra and 4 others Another one [Whispering] with a guilty conscience.. Nobody mentioned who was pushed towards suicide.. 🤡 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezlq9UDWQAEzo-1?format=jpg&name=small 4:35 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
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Note, Jules strongly suggests that it is not KLS but doesn’t categorically say it wasn’t.
At this point in time there’s only one certainty: only Jules knows who wrote the alleged suicide note. No one else does. Not even the alleged harasser, because if the harasser knew then Jules would have no need to say that no one said it was KLS.
Did we say harasser? We meant to say harassers. Above Jules already hinted that it was the case by saying “you all helped pushed towards suicide..”.
This multiple list of harassers had been confirmed by Jules in a previous tweet:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385221811722465280 Jules ♡@jules999x 'Ben ran down and saved Karen's life' Which voice in your head told you that.. You and others were named on a suicide note.. Your lies and harassment helped in almost pushing someone over the edge.. Sue me for libel if I'm lying.. Come on mouth.. #McCann https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzlL5WwWUAEJVoa?format=jpg&name=large 2:19 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
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The fact that allegedly there are many harassers and not only Elaine excludes the possibility of the bullying having been done privately. It had to have been an onslaught of public online abuse by many against that person. Did anyone see it? We didn’t.
Jules then seems to like to play a game about revealing the names of the alleged harassers:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1386046759751884803 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @carmarsutra, @222Phoenixrises and 3 others That thing Snipes was another one named on the suicide note.. I think Necky is waiting to see if she was named on it too, in fact it's probably hoping it was, it clearly gets a kick out of people being pushed to take their own life.. Birds of a feather.. #McCann 8:57 PM · Apr 24, 2021
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As Whispering has correctly stated, ANYONE could have their name on that list:
https://twitter.com/Anvil161Anvil16/status/1385296734130249740 W@Anvil161Anvil16 So, if we don't know who was pushed - & that includes the alleged harasser - where is the harassment? Basically just write on a piece of paper with the heading "suicide note" any old name & that person becomes automatically the harasser without knowing s/he was one!! (Dim as) 😂 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzmQCUpWUAo18cM?format=jpg&name=medium 7:17 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385648347235639296 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @carmarsutra Imagine being named as someone who helped push someone to suicide.. I really can't think of anything worse.. 6:34 PM · Apr 23, 2021·
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Interesting that she didn’t have any problem in reading her friend (and Frog’s) Walker saying publicly that there was little left to push Elaine over the edge…
Jules then equates words on Twitter that no one has seen, with the effective stealing £122,000 off an elderly relative:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385260602252275720 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @feckinseriouss, @carmarsutra and 4 others What Karen has done is wrong on every level, but The Glums aren't coming off any better.. 4:53 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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Words on Twitter, lest Jules forget and she shouldn’t forget it, do have judicial accountability and if she can prove what she is accusing Elaine, Snips and unspecified others of, then she should act accordingly and head for the police. It’s her duty to do just that to defend her allegedly abused friend, or better said, friends.
Let’s recap before things get too confusing, according to Jules and Jules alone, someone, who Jules and only Jules knows who it is, wrote a suicide note naming Elaine, Snips and unspecified others as responsible for an abuse that no one has seen or talked about, which almost pushed that someone over the edge.
And before KLS got arrested, apparently no one but Jules knew about these dramatic events.
But do wait because it gets better. It wasn’t just one probable suicide but many:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385212887615086592 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @Annalee63433060 and @Phoenixrises_12 Yes.. and if it wasn't for someone's quick actions that thing, plus others would have succeeded.. 1:44 PM · Apr 22, 2021
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Now we get to know that it’s not only not one alleged near-suicide but many. Not one other but “others”.
But most importantly, we also get to know that it’s not only Jules who is aware of all this drama, but someone else, of quick of action, also is. Who? We don’t know.
We don’t get to know who are the near-suicidal people nor who are the harassers besides Elaine and Snips.
No one in the gang has acknowledged to have been the author of the note nor has anyone come out to thank the unknown “quick-action” individual mentioned by Jules.
Silverdoe, the biggest whiner of the gang was supposedly surprised, so it can’t be her.
Also, no one has come out to acknowledge to have been the quick-action person.
Also, before it was known that KLS had been sent to prison for her crime, no one, including Jules, mentioned before this drama that allegedly was ongoing.
It’s really like all this suicidal drama is entirely just inside Jules’ head. Just like the BRT pics.
Jules, as is known, is a liar and a terrible one at that. Her obsession for doubling down is her biggest downfall. An obsession which makes her constantly try to heal paper cuts by swinging axes on them.
What is the difference between Jules and Monty Python’s Black Knight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs
The difference is that the Black Knight is alone.
He does not have a circle of medieval peasants egging him on. There’s no one around him shouting “you tell him”, “look at the coward turning his back on you” or “if he hadn’t run away, you’d have spilled his blood all over the ground”.
Would these imagined peasants make the Black Knight look more or less pathetic? We will leave that up to the reader to judge.
However, the peasants are imagined but the gang egging on “limbless” Jules is real, very real.
Here is just another example of what a terrible liar Jules is:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1386064399027392513 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @222Phoenixrises, @carmarsutra and 3 others Dave Hall informed me in an e-mail that he knew Karen was bi-polar, so Slackers can do one.. Having mental health issues is no excuse for being a troll like that lot are.. 10:07 PM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter for Android
***** https://twitter.com/DaveHallCoLtd/status/1386072301368709122 DaveHall@DaveHallCoLtd Did I? Did I hell as like. Care to show proof to everyone? @jules999x @strackers74 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzxRDIKXoAM1bVt?format=png&name=small 10:39 PM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
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When Jules is backed into a corner, what does she always do? She summons her lapdog JBLittlemore.
Unsurprisingly she did just that, and so transparent all was that it helped show how desperate she was after falling down the rabbit hole that she had created. This tweet tells us a lot:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1386050568720982017 Jules ♡@jules999x Replying to @JBLittlemore, @Phoenixrises_12 and 6 others I've no idea JBL.. She just disappeared, wasn't answering calls, msgs etc.. We were all worried sick & then the homophobic troll tweeted an article.. We were all gobsmacked to say the least.. 9:13 PM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter for Android
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Jules, after trying to make us believe there are BRT pics and that there is a suicide note, uses her lapdog to try and convince us that they were all caught by surprise.
If what Jules is saying is correct, then KLS could have been dead for all they cared because nowhere can it be seen this alleged worrying mirrored in anyway on Twitter. A friend disappears and life goes on exactly as it always had. Good friends KLS has…
If this suicide note was written by KLS then the prison should have been made aware if she is a suicide risk, as procedures must be put in place for at- risk prisoners: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/suicide-self-harm-prevention-in-prison
Her defence barrister seems to have made no mention of a suicide attempt in her mitigation. That would have been an important point to make regarding sentencing.
If KLS refrained from briefing her barrister because she wanted to keep that private, her so-called friend Jules has breached that confidentiality by putting it all over twitter.
The same if it wasn’t KLS. Jules has broken confidentiality. If the note is true, that is.
And if it is supposed to be KLS it’s interesting that the gang don’t find it strange that she was more distressed by someone being mean to her on Twitter rather than because of remorse about what she did to her aunt.
And about what KLS did to her aunt this is what Jules’ and Frog’s friend Walker had to say:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lostinthecity7/status/1385312516364984320 Miss J@Lostinthecity7 Replying to @MMTRUTHORLIE, @SidShite and 48 others Apparently the thief’s actions were noble... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzmeYrOXIAE9zgp?format=jpg&name=large 8:20 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
[The picture attached is a screengrab of a Tweet from Walker, since deleted: “The Algarve Post@... 1h She should have got 5 years for that amount of cash. Word from my CPS contacts is that the Aunt knew and was wilfully disinvesting herself to avoid huge care costs. Looks like Karen took the wrap, sounds noble to me. Bet the money is still out there, somewhere. #mccann”]
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This is an absolutely defamatory statement about the elderly aunt, who is accused of fraud and perverting the course of justice and attributing the leaking of this accusation to the Crown Prosecution Service.
The woman hasn’t been named but will be identifiable to many people who know her.
We haven’t seen a single word of condemnation of this by the gang and 2 people liked this tweet.
And talking about condemning or not abhorrent behaviour, we have not seen a single member of the gang condemning KLS in clear terms. The best we have had was Jules saying “What Karen has done is wrong on every level, but…”
Some claim KLS they don’t condone what she did. The fact they implicitly expect that we would expect them condoning a crime says more about them than about us. Of course no one condones, but any decent human being should condemn categorically and without hesitation the ripping off of the life-savings of an elderly relative as they should have condemned the taking of money from good-hearted people, including the pocket-money of a teen girl which none did in both cases.
For the Frog, Walker’s and Jules’ friend, we are all taking pleasure of KLS’ misfortune:
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1385909147519131648 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @loverandomieigh Schadenfreude poisons your soul. 11:51 AM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
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This is what Wikipedia has to say about Schadenfreude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
“Schadenfreude is the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of another. Schadenfreude is a complex emotion where, rather than feeling sympathy, one takes pleasure from watching someone's misfortune. This emotion is displayed more in children than adults. However, adults also experience schadenfreude, although generally they conceal it.”
As far as we know, the only person having a misfortune was the victim, who, according to Frog we shouldn’t feel sympathy for because we don’t know her:
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1386688083362553859 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @strackers74 and @loverandomieigh Misfortune is just 1 word used in Schadenfreude, if u bothered to look. K's reported misfortune was to suffer financial difficulties & she chose a criminal route to deal with it. Your faux sympathy for a nameless, faceless victim is worthless when your sole interest is perp. 3:26 PM · Apr 26, 2021·
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And this must be the most idiotic deflection of the KLS situation we have seen so far:
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1386688733169262597 Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643 Replying to @strackers74 and @loverandomieigh It's a crime - as is stealing someone else's photo online & passing them off as yourself. Tell me - do you feel the same way about Amaral as you do about KS? (and he never served time for his financial crimes) 3:28 PM · Apr 26, 2021
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Frog equates KLS to Gonçalo Amaral. We don’t think we need to say anything more about this pathetic comparison.
But there is something similar between KLS and Gonçalo Amaral and that is that they have both faced justice in the appropriate place to face it: their respective country’s judicial system. One is in prison, the other is not.
KLS is now paying the price for her actions, so we think people should refrain from saying anything further about her. If she resumes her previous behaviour, that’s another totally different scenario.
Also, taking into account that apparently the police seized KLS’ computer and phone equipment, if any news comes out of this, we will obviously comment.
We all have our particular stories, successes and failures, things we are proud of and things we are ashamed of in our lives but the knowledge that we are on the opposite side of the fence of Jules, KLS, Frog, Walker, Zora, BenT and the rest of the Lick Spittle gang is a balm for the mind because it means we continue have values, empathy and souls, a true badge of honour to be worn with pride.
Nobody has as many suicidal friends as Ben Thompson. If they didn’t stalk people and threaten them with violence or commit fraud, they wouldn’t be suicidal. When Erica Jane and Shell told lies to the police to have Debbie and Elaine arrested, some of the gang were bound to feel suicidal. Because they are scared of being investigated by the police and ending up where Karen is.
They also know the consequences for telling lies about Anvil being on the sex register for paedophilia and accusing Elaine of stalking a child. Why has Zora McCartney still not reported Elaine to the police? Is she afraid their point of view would be that Elaine had protected the child by exposing the gofundme (which the child was not old enough to have) and that they would have to refer Zora to social services for having enabled her child to beg for money on the internet, because she could not afford food and rent for her family?
Bugsy @BunnyRetuned
· 15h The lot of you are trying your very best to drive someone, anyone, over the edge. You've been told you nearly drove someone to suicide (you weren't told who) long before this Karen stuff, and yet you ALL continue. 1 1 6
Bugsy @BunnyRetuned
· 15h So don't be surprised when/if the police turn up at all of your doors. You've been asked and warned to stop several times, but you continue regardless. If someone chooses to go to the police about any or all of you, you only have yourselves to blame. 1 1 6
Bugsy @BunnyRetuned
Replying to @BunnyRetuned @DaveHallCoLtd and @Phoenixrises_12 You can try as hard as you want to rewrite history, but should someone now involve the police, they'll see exactly what all of you are like. Full-time stalkers and trolls. Which, as you know, are jailable offences. 2:29 PM · Apr 27, 2021·Twitter for Android
Not sure if you're aware or not but today was the Sonia Poulton court case regarding her YouTube video Paedophiles in Parliament. I don't want to mention the former MPs name as people can look it up. She is claiming her work was highly researched.
I for one, beg to differ. Her Twitter followers, on the other hand, are right behind her and believe what she says is the truth. Her research methods are for the birds IMHO, and she's spread more harm than good, plus, she never did understand the Maddie affair.
She dangled the inducement carrot and came up with nada. No matter, let them pay her extravagant lawyer's fees and lifestyle bills if they need to believe her research that badly. That way, their questions will always go unanswered.
Why is Ben Thompson saying people are talking about friends of his who have committed suicide? It was mentioned that he has friends who say they are suicidal, not that he had friends in his past who committed suicide. The only reason his friends have threatened to take their own lives, is because they know what the police will find if they are investigated.
Bugsy @BunnyRetuned · 5h Replying to @DaveHallCoLtd
@athubah and @strackers74 After seeing her gloating over the suicide of people I know this morning, I couldn't disagree more. That woman doesn't deserve a shred of happiness, not when she delights in the misery and unimaginable suffering of others. Bugsy @BunnyRetuned · 5h Replying to @BunnyRetuned
@sarahlustne and 4 others Elaine Strachan was named - along with other sick trolls, in a #suicide note left by a friend of mine. She was named because she and her friends trolled and bullied my friend to such a degree that they felt the only option was to take their own life. Bugsy @BunnyRetuned · 5h Replying to @BunnyRetuned
@sarahlustne and 4 others I have just been sent a screenshot of a tweet from a sick troll who thinks it's ok to use the #suicide of two of my friends as a stick to beat me with. Elaine Strachan @ Strackers74 This is beyond vile, even by your Bugsy @BunnyRetuned · Apr 27 Replying to @BunnyRetuned
@DaveHallCoLtd and @Phoenixrises_12 The lot of you are trying your very best to drive someone, anyone, over the edge. You've been told you nearly drove someone to suicide (you weren't told who) long before this Karen stuff, and yet you ALL continue. Bugsy @BunnyRetuned · Apr 27 Replying to @BunnyRetuned
@DaveHallCoLtd and @Phoenixrises_12 ...and now you have Chris who's been dripping his poison into all of your DM boxes for months, and only last week told the most sickening lies about someone who committed suicide, and then claimed to be "her voice" The list of Chris' sick games is endless, so no surprise.
If someone who refuses to get a job had a friend who kept lending them money from an old aunty's bank account, but the friend went to prison before the money could be paid back into the account, who should the money be paid back to? To their friend in prison, so they can buy luxuries like food and toilet rolls, or should it be returned to the old aunty? Or should they keep the money as a gift, as the bank has reimbursed the old aunty? Asking for a friend.
Elaine Strachan #kbf @strackers74
Thread on Karen Sanders and the "terrible abuse she got on Twitter".Face with rolling eyesFace with rolling eyesFace with rolling eyes You'd think Ben would zip it given I know about his private life from one person - KAREN!!!! Clown faceClown faceClown face
Smiling face @karmakarmaaah · 1h @strackers74 @leetronix @DaveHallCoLtd @Anvil161Anvil16 @Lostinthecity7 @Ioverandomleigh @loverandomieigh Karen sanders Down pointing backhand index#troll on #mccann tag. Now in prison for theft. This is her being ‘pushed’ to edge... can’t you tell how down she was.
Software for analysing imagery hasn't been invented yet, at least not in the minds of individuals who see all things dark and sinister in the images of Maddie.
I felt an overwhelming need to say that, as there are grown men again on Twitter who insist on viewing this situation through a lens of depraved murkiness. Which individuals stood to gain from exploiting the nonce angle?
Additionally, how disappointed would Madeleine be about this casual accusatory blackening of her name, on a scale of one to ten? My guess would be bigger than the dollar value of the entire Madeleine-industrial complex.
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(Censored). This was around the time Karen was saying Ben was trying to come between her and Jules by telling her things about Jules she knew were lies because she has known Jules for years. Karen didn't believe the warning she might be sent to prison, and she did not expect the sentence she was given. So why have her friends who tweet about caring about their potentially suicidal friends and friends with mental health issues, left her to rot and not rung her to tell her they are thinking about her and to ask her if she needs anything?
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We have censored the comment because you make serious allegations about the inner life and habits of the members of the gang you mention. We are not doubting you word – in fact we are very much inclined to believe all you have said – but as there are no hard proof, we have preferred to not publish it in its entirety.
https://twitter.com/GnusCast/status/1385623554536976387 TheGnus Ⓥ@GnusCast For 5 years I suffered unprovoked harassment, intimidation, attempted blackmail as protected witness in a criminal prosecution from Karen Lowe Sanders. The prosecution was successful. Yesterday, this: https://thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19228879.niece-branded-despicable-jailed-122-000-fraud/ A #fraudster & #thief as well. Two years isn't enough. 4:56 PM · Apr 23, 2021·
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https://twitter.com/ChrisRo43783874/status/1388541078882693121 Chris Roberts@ChrisRo43783874 For the avoidance of doubt,the BRC was issued with a PIN notice following her lying to the police that I had harassed her even though I'd had NOTHING to do with her for 4 years. SS of her own rabid abuse sealed the deal. If you want to come for me, you need to "load for bear". 😊 6:09 PM · May 1, 2021
https://mobile.twitter.com/johnhemming4mp/status/1388743536514846723 John Hemming@johnhemming4mp Replying to @cherylw70517755 There is an organised harassment campaign against my family and myself. I have already reported this to the police. Please give me your name and address so I can provide your details to the police as part of that campaign. 7:33 AM · May 2, 2021·Twitter Web App
****** https://mobile.twitter.com/MayklUoker/status/1388887328786092033 Maykl Uoker@MayklUoker Replying to @johnhemming4mp and @cherylw70517755 Are you aware Poulton door stepped Kate McCann who’s child had been abducted and accused her of being complicit in the crime? She’s disgusting. The video is on YouTube. 5:05 PM · May 2, 2021·
***** https://mobile.twitter.com/johnhemming4mp/status/1388911315704549381 John Hemming@johnhemming4mp Replying to @MayklUoker and @cherylw70517755 They have done a lot of nasty things to lots of people. 6:40 PM · May 2, 2021
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Somebody within the gang should tell idiot Walker that there are times during which one plays a character and other times when life is really real.
Nothing like throwing S. Poulton under the bus at a critical time.
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Great to see BRC where she belongs. (Censored). The transparent attempts to distract from the bombshell news of Kaz Incarcerated have been frankly laughable, or would have been if the whole thing wasn't so vile. Literally everyone can see what you are doing! They've gone quiet now. It won't be from shame. They don't have any of that. No doubt they're cooking up another "the police are on their way to see you" intimidation campaign. As to Kaz's mate "Walker", well she must be laughing her (many, MANY) socks off that people still think she's a male. Even outed herself with this Tweet https://twitter.com/MayklUoker/status/1388919968444600324 which seemed to go unnoticed, maybe because the yapper gang was not on #mccann when all this happened. For their info, the only person Poulton's then boyfriend sent a gun pic to was @Urcrazytoo (ID known. Female called MA [Full name redacted by the blog to its initials] . Yappers can ask BT. He knows all about her. Please redact name or just use intials if you feel necessary) https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/565082728895631361 There are many more Tweets from Urcrazytoo about the gun threat. https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/563668426552770561 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/565236524544184320 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/566568632751517696 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/566649884795994113 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/563623922835677185 etc She (Walker) probably had too many Bank Holiday sherberts when she made this major gaffe. Just as a final thought, how on earth has no-one clocked that @I_Love_cats2014 and @OnideousM is the same troll? Thinking this one has many accounts. MrNayNay3 could be another but I can't see those Tweets any more. Please be Careful who you share confidences with, so many trolls & gameplayers out there. Anyway, Happy Birthday Madeleine, praying that this year is your year.
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Reason for censoring: it involved details about KLS’ personal life and lifestyle. As the blog has stated, KLS has been made accountable for her actions by the justice system and the punishment is by paying the price that same system has determined as appropriate.
Thanks for publishing my message. I've just read it back & to clarify I'm not saying @I_Lovecats2014 / @OnideousM is UrCrazyWalker (M.A.). Not sure if that was clear from my earlier message. Cheers!
Someone said about a year ago that the CB tale was nothing more than another distraction, after some very basic research, that opinion seems to be closer to correct than not.
They are out of control, and Wolters has been paid do do a job, but instead he lied. Shocking bunch of charlatans, what happened to unbiased Gamble?
He was dead certain of the odd-looking characters' guilt this time last year, him and some usual members of the Madeleine disrespectful entourage, then nothing but carrot-dangling story lines. How strange!
Maddie was killed in Portugal, so says the article is what the German police believes. Based on what?
Where is the body?
Will Brueckner accept this? If he doesn’t, how do they intend to avoid him expressing himself and denouncing the plot that possibly is being set up to frame him?
If they believe she wasn’t taken to Germany, what makes them come to this conclusion?
German police seem to have found that Brueckner did not rent the cellars which they recently searched in Germany, at the time Maddie disappeared. They dug the properties in vain and now look stupid.
It’s usual for German allotments to have cellars, which are not “hidden lairs” as the press claimed. They are cold storage areas for produce.
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1393359814777085952 @MistyDa83907643 A warning for those without anti-virus software #mccann The Frog troll & her mate have been trying to scare people away from this blog by saying it's not safe & anyone visiting will be hacked if they don't have anti virus. My access to this site was blocked a few weeks back. I got the message "Sorry, this website is blocked textusa.blogspot.com has been blocked by ******* because it matches these categories:
Weapons, Violence, Gore & Hate If you want to visit this site, you’ll need to change your settings.
Change settings Have we blocked this site by mistake?
Let us know"
As I know this site contains none of the things mentioned, I suspected someone had reported this blog to try get it blocked. Now I think the culprits have come forward to announce it was them. It's almost as if there's something on here they desperately don't want people to see! ;)
There is nothing in the German press about the Maddier case - only the 3 crimes, allegedly relating to Brueckner.
We remind readers that the Brit police, in 2016, after putting up a spectacular show declared that Ben Needham was dead. All based on a toy car literally dug up by a bulldozer. http://textusa.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-road-of-no-return-and-apologies.html
Since then, we have yet to know on what evidence the police came to that conclusion.
The media then, pointed the finger to a Konstatinos Barkas:
“In the case of Ben, it was a bulldozer driver, Konstantinos Barkas “outed” in the Mirror article of Sept 16, 2016 by Lucy Thornton “Ben Needham investigation breakthrough as cops probe witness claims missing tot was killed” and later confirmed in another article from the same paper on the same day by Tom Parris, Lucy Thornton and Andy Lines “Digger driver at centre of Ben Needham police probe was successful businessman who 'knew everyone on the island'””
Mr Barkas was never charged. But he became Ben’s Lee Harvey Oswald. For the general public, thanks to the media help, the case was solved: Ben was dead and a culprit had been found.
Now, Brueckner is filling the shoes filled by Barkas in the Ben Needham case. The media is really doing a great job making him Maddie’s Lee Harvey Oswald.
The only difference we see between Barkas and Brueckner is that now the German police has put its chips on the German patsy. We will see how relevant that will be.
https://twitter.com/anvil161anvil16/status/1397150253317509126 W@Anvil161Anvil16 Irony alert: NOW is the time to train Covid sniffer dogs to alert also to Malaria. That way, you see, when there's an alert, it can be both Covid and Malaria. Of course they can then bring in a (err) Malaria dog to make certain that it is... wait, what? #mccann #bullshit #lies 12:19 PM · May 25, 2021·
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Exactly!
Train Covid dogs to also to alert to Malaria but make sure they are known publicly ONLY as the Covid dogs.
Keep the Malaria alerting thing to be like a “professional secret”, for example by not alerting to that fact before each search. That way, one won’t spoil the fun of letting a patient believe that he has Covid although the alert wouldn’t mean that!
Also, train other dogs to only to alert to Malaria. That way one can fill one’s mouth with having them “working in tandem” which although it only means working together for a same objective, sounds cool and gives an aura of having “professional secret” knowledge that the rest of humanity doesn’t have.
To each alert by the Covid (& Malaria) dog, bring in a Malaria dog. If it alerts, it’s only Malaria. No, because it could be both Covid and Malaria. If it doesn’t, then it has to be Covid unless it’s a false negative for Malaria.
All very simple. And objective.
What is wrong with this reasoning? Did the reader spot it?
If one trains Covid dogs to alert also to Malaria then why train Malaria dogs only to Malaria? Train them to Paludism as well! That way an alert by the Covid (& Malaria) dog together with an alert by the Malaria (& Paludism) dog means that the patient may have Covid, Malaria and Paludism! That’s a whole new level of panic.
And while the reader thinks of how absurd this is, this is what BenT, NotTextusa, JBLittlemore, Jules and the other gang minion parrots defend regarding the dogs used in the Maddie case.
EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann's parents are STILL having to pay legal fees to fight Portuguese detective's sickening claim that they were responsible for their daughter's death
By Andy Buckwell For Mailonline 17:40 27 May 2021, updated 19:02 27 May 2021
- Documents reveal the McCann's face ongoing expenses as part of libel action - Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral claimed they accidentally killed Maddie - The couple won an initial libel claim challenging his outrageous claim - But Amaral overturned the decision and it was also upheld by another court
Kate and Gerry McCann are still facing legal costs to fight sickening claims by a Portuguese detective that they were responsible for their daughter Maddie's death, MailOnline has learned.
New documents reveal they face ongoing expenses as part of their long running libel action against the police officer who investigated the disappearance of Maddie, 14 years ago this month.
In a 2008 book Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral claimed Kate and Gerry accidentally killed Maddie and covered it up by pretending she had been abducted.
The couple won an initial libel claim challenging his outrageous claim, but the policeman overturned the decision and it was also upheld by another court.
Two years ago court files showed the couple had had to fork out £29,500 on legal fees for Amaral. Since then they have had to pay out a further £4,229 in legal costs making a total of nearly £34,000.
The European Court of Human Rights is due to rule on a further legal appeal shortly and if the McCanns lose the right to appeal they will have to pay still further court costs to Amaral.
The latest payout is detailed in accounts for the company, Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited, which is funding the search for the couple's daughter aged three who disappeared on May 3, 2007.
Paperwork says: 'Legal costs of £4,229 were reimbursed to the directors, Gerald and Kate McCann in relation to ongoing libel action in Portugal.'
The family's lawyer in Portugal Isabel Duarte said she did not wish to comment on the costs.
Referring to the legal case earlier this year a close friend of the couple said: 'It drags on and on. They go one step forward then two two back. It's caused them so much anguish over the years and they just want to draw a line under it.
'It's never been about seeking damages but simply trying to stop false and malicious accusations being spouted. They still have no idea if their appeal in their fight for justice will be granted, or not.'
Sales of Kate McCann's book 'Madeleine: Our Daughter's disappearance and the continuing search for her' helped boost the fund by £6,543 during the year, the accounts said.
Three-year-old Maddie went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May 2007.
Heart doctor Gerry and medical worker Kate have fought tirelessly to find their daughter.
The Mail article is incorrect. The ECHR application is nothing to do with libel, nor is it an appeal.
It’s an application by the McCanns against the state of Portugal for alleged violations regarding their rights to private and family life and the presumption of innocence.
Is this article preparing the public for news that the McCanns are about to lose their case?
Their case was notified to Portugal on January 14 2021, with 16 weeks for the state to respond to a number of case examples quoted by the ECHR. That date would be June 6, if Portugal used the full period allowed.
Since January 2019 it is routine for the parties to be asked to consider a Friendly Settlement (FS) procedure. It’s not “ an extraordinary request” as claimed by a friend of the McCanns in March.
This can be divided into a non- contentious and a contentious stage, each lasting 12 weeks. The first stage is confidential and without prejudice.
Alternatively, it can be a single phase procedure where admissibility and merits are examined at the same time and the applicants are asked to respond to the government observations within 6 weeks.
We think the latter procedure may have been used in this case because it does not require new case law to be applied. We think this because the ECHR stated in January that it was only a case of importance level 3. This means of low importance in that existing case law can be applied.
The court can make its own proposals for a FS to both parties when the single stage procedure is used.
The parties then have 6 weeks to respond.
The state may accept the FS proposal made by the ECHR, which states that this does not indicate that a violation may have occurred. The state may offer financial recompense without accepting any violations occurred.
If the state offers a FS and the applicants refuse it, the state can make a Unilateral Declaration, which the applicants do not have to agree to.
Usually the state accepts violations have occurred and offers financial recompense, but if the ECHR proposal does not include recognition of violations, presumably a Unilateral Declaration would reflect this?
On March 27, according to the Sun, the McCanns received a “legal blow” when they were “told” to accept a Friendly Settlement.
This made us wonder if Portugal had responded earlier than 16 weeks to the cases quoted, defending the decision of the Supreme Court, but also offering a FS which did not accept violations, although still offering some recompense? Let’s say, for example, by covering the court costs incurred by the McCanns.
This would present a dilemma? Take the recompense without receiving any acknowledgment that any human rights had been breached or risk the state making a Unilateral Declaration.
If the single stage procedure has been adopted, we would expect any FS agreed to be made before the end of June.
If the two stage procedure of 24 weeks has been adopted, dating from January 14, then it would be a later date, depending on when exactly the parties respond in the timescales given and whether it moves to the contested stage.
If the ECR have made a FS proposal, that would seem indicative of their thinking and either party wishing to enter the contentious stage suggests they feel the FS proposal is in their favour.
All of this is speculation and not a legal interpretation of events.
Fully identified reader “Please don’t publish as such” at 28 May 2021, 11:17:00, we didn’t know if you desired full anonymity or not, so we decided not to risk it. If you wish for us to identify you, we will gladly do so.
This reader, who we consider to be very reliable has informed us that the ECHR “will probably examine the case in the first semester of 2022”.
Our comment above at 25 May 2021, 12:58:00 was written before we opened your comment.
Maybe the case has moved to the contentious stage?
We are reminded of the time when Gonçalo Amaral refused to settle outside the court.
It’s from Nick Pisa, so the usual lies were expected. The legal battle in question is not against Amaral as stated but against the state of Portugal. Amaral has literally nothing to do with this however many times his name is mentioned both in and outside the process.
Another lie, is to say they lost an appeal. No, they lost 2 of them, the last defeat being against the highest court in the country.
This article says it will be settled this year but our information is first semester of next year. Obviously, we trust way more our source.
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Comment submitted to previous post and that we are publishing on this one:
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https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/encontro-secreto-para-encontrar-madeleine-mccann?ref=Pesquisa_Destaques
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 27 Oct 2020, 10:30:00”
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This article is only available to online subscribers. This is what can be read publicly:
In Portuguese:
“PJ junta polícias inglesa e alemã em encontro secreto para encontrar Maddie
ADN não coloca suspeito no apartamento, mas há provas de envolvimento em outros crimes.
Tânia Laranjo e Paulo João Santos 01:30
O encontro foi secreto e decorreu recentemente na Polícia Judiciária de Lisboa. Juntou as autoridades inglesas e alemãs e teve como objectivo reunir provas para encontrar Madeleine McCann. Para já, os dados continuam a ser circunstanciais, mas os alemães já levaram os elementos de outros 2 processos, que permitem…”
Our translation:
“PJ joins English and German police in secret meeting to find Maddie
DNA does not place a suspect in the apartment, but there is evidence of involvement in other crimes.
Tânia Laranjo and Paulo João Santos 01:30
The meeting was secret and it took place recently in Lisbon’s PJ. It joined the English and German authorities and had as objective gathering evidence to find Madeleine McCann. For now, the data remains circumstantial, but the Germans have already taken the elements of two other processes, which allow...”
Unpublished Anonymous at 27 Oct 2020, 09:10:00 (comment submitted to previous post)
ReplyDeleteWe are not publishing your post, however tempting it would to do so.
The bullies are provoking, trying to get a reaction which they can report to the police. We believe that publishing your comment would play into their hands.
About the content, is it really a surprise? We don’t think it was. Only the confirmation of what we all knew.
Joana Morais sent me the newspaper article published October 27 and which we mentioned in our comment at 27 Oct 2020, 11:05:00. We then said that the article was an online exclusive and we were wrong, as it was published that day in the paper edition.
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Front page:
NEW ADVANCES IN THE INVESTIGATION
SECRET MEETING TO FIND MADDIE
ENGLISH AND GERMAN POLICE AT PJ’S HEADQUARTERS OF THE JUDICIAL PGS 12 AND 13
- PJ hands-over evidence of the main suspect’s involvement in other crimes
- BRUECKNER tried to abduct two children in 2017
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Main article:
Secret meeting to find Madeleine
LEADS - DNA does not place suspect in the apartment, but there is evidence of involvement in other crimes
TÂNIA LARANJO / PAULO JOÃO SANTOS
The meeting was secret and it took place recently in Lisbon’s PJ. It brought together English and German authorities and had as objective the gathering of evidence to find Madeleine McCann. For now, the data remains circumstantial, but the Germans have already taken the elements of two other cases, which allow Christian Brueckner, the main suspect in Maddie's disappearance, to be maintained in prison.
The objective is to be able to draw a profile of the German, that will help the authorities to understand how he will have disposed of the body, after having abducted the English girl in the Ocean Club.
The searches in the basement where the man lived for several years revealed nothing, nor even did the DNA profiles collected in the apartment where the child disappeared place the suspect at the scene of the crime. But several witnesses have already been heard that indicate that Christian Brueckner knew the Ocean Club well and knew about Maddie's parents' routines.
For the German authorities, there is little doubt that it was Christian Brueckner who killed Maddie, after kidnapping her, but the biggest thing left to know remains the place where the body was hidden.
At the meeting that took place recently in our country, the PJ reported all the diligences it did in the Algarve, namely the searches carried out in various places and which proved to be unsuccessful. Wells and holes were finely combed, but there was no sign of any of the girl’s remains.
The German authorities asked the PJ for details of two other cases, which could allow to maintain suspect in prison for several years. For now, the German is serving time for the rape of an American woman in Praia da Luz – a seven year sentence - but he could soon be accused of a rape in 2004 and an attempt to kidnap two children in 2017. Both crimes occurred in the Algarve.
Portuguese, English and Germans do not give up on the investigation and for now continue to try to gather information about the suspect's past. It is essential to understand the routines in 2007, when Maddie disappeared, at the same time that Christian Brueckner lived nearby
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SEARCHES TO THE BASEMENT HAVE NOT HELPED TO CLARIFY DISAPPEARANCE
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PJ GAVE DATA THAT ALLOW GERMANS TO KEEP BRUECKNER IN JAIL]
[Photo caption: Kate McCann, with the doll her daughter used, always spoke about abduction.]
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Conversation in cafe relaunched the investigation
SECRET - Friend said that Brueckner confessed to the crime in 2008. But he only revealed it eight years later.
The Brueckner investigation was born out of a coffee conversation. Helge Busching, who met the German when Maddie disappeared, in Praia da Luz, Lagos, says the suspect revealed to him having been involved in the child's disappearance in 2008.
Busching, who helped convict Brueckner for violating the 73-year-old American woman - stole from him the camera he used to film the crime - gave name of the German to the English police in 2017, on the 10th anniversary of the girl's disappearance .
He assures that Brueckner told him, during a festival in Spain, when they were in a cafe, that he had been involved in the disappearance. Nine years later, after Busching was arrested for immigrant trafficking in Greece, he said he wanted to speak to the British police. In Athens, when asked what he thought of Brueckner, regarding Maddie, he replied: Guilty.
The suspicions were later passed on to the Portuguese police, who managed to place Brueckner’s the cell phone in the vicinity of the crime scene. It was Busching who revealed the number that the friend used at the time.
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KNEW THE NUMBER OF THE MOBILE PHONE THE GERMAN USED IN 2007
[Photo captions:
- Camper used by Brueckner when he was in Luz, in 2007.
- Germans have already searched several places, looking for clues.]
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Other articles:
WARRANT - WAS RELEASED
The two children who were harassed by Brueckner in 2017 say they saw him masturbate near a slide while playing. They called the parents, the man was arrested, but although he had a pending arrest warrant, he was released and escaped with impunity.
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PJ - INTENSE COLLABORATION
The PJ has collaborated intensively with the English and German authorities. There is an exchange of elements and also a lot of information that is worked jointly to try to understand where Madeleine McCann may be. The Germans have already guaranteed that the girl is dead.
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PARENTS - SEARCHES NEAR THE BEACH
An image showing Maddie's father, hours after her disappearance, by the beach, in the area of the resort, raised suspicions to the authorities. At the time, the couple claimed that the girl had been abducted, but the Englishman seems to be looking for a body. That was one of the leads that was followed.
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COFFIN - INCINERATED BODY
ANOTHER OF THE LEADS THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY THE PJ AT THE TIME WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF MADDIE'S BODY TO HAVE BEEN PLACED IN A COFFIN AND HAVE BEEN INCINERATED.
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Mother was arguida
The PJ even followed the line that Maddie was accidentally killed by her mother, and Kate was constituted arguido for negligent homicide. She was never accused.
Contaminated scenario
When the PJ arrived at the room where the girl slept in 2007, the scene had already been contaminated. Tens of people had been at the site and tens of DNA profiles were collected.
Case reopened
After being archived, the case was reopened and the case was sent to the Porto’s PJ who became in charge of reading all the documents. The objective was to try to find new lines of investigation. It was only then that the hypothesis of the girl's abduction and death gained strength.
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SIMILARITIES LED AUTHORITIES TO MOVE FORWARD
The similarities between the rape of an Irish female in 2004 and the case of the American woman that led to Brueckner's conviction led the PJ to reopen the case and send the evidence to Germany.
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SUSPECTED ABUSE OF 10 YEARS CHILD
Christian Bruecker is also suspect of another sexual abuse of a 10-year-old German child, on a beach, in the Algarve, in Portugal, in the same year that Maddie disappeared.
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SEXUAL HARASSMENT GOES TO JUDGMENT
Also going to trial in Germany is a case of sexual harassment that involved two children in a playground in São Bartolomeu de Messines, in the Algarve. It was in 2017.
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Arrived in the Algarve with just 18 years
Christian Brueckner, 43, spent more than a decade living in Portugal and left the country shortly after Maddie's disappearance. He arrived in the Algarve in 1995, at the age of 18. He lived in a camper that was seized.
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Photo captions:
1 - Maddie was sleeping with her twin siblings, in Praia da Luz, when she disappeared
2 - Resort where the girl slept was, at the time, combed finely by the PJ
3 - Authorities have been doing several searches in recent years to try to find any lead
4 - German police made excavations near a place where Brueckner lived. Found nothing
The blog’s opinion about this:
DeleteIt’s all a storm in a teacup.
The secret meeting in September was at PJ HQ in Lisbon, with German and English police, to exchange information about Brueckner.
It seems to have allowed the German authorities to gather elements relating to 2 other cases which could keep the suspect in prison for several years.
The meeting reportedly had the objective of drawing a profile of Brueckner, in order to understand how he got rid of Maddie’s body.
However, the 2 cases refer to the rape of Hazel B, where is has since been established that Brueckner’s DNA didn’t match and the Salema beach incident in 2007, where a man carried out an indecent act in front of 10 year old Joana E.
In the latter case, the girl couldn’t identify Brueckner as the man from photographs.
Neither case involve abduction or intent to abduct. We cannot see how either will shed any light as to how Maddie’s body was disposed, even if there was solid proof that Brueckner was linked to either or both.
The fact that there is no proof that he was involved in either makes it all even more absurd.
The Irish authorities were represented at the September ECJ hearing by J Quaney and M Gray, QC. This must relate to their interest in the case of Hazel B, although the published hearing transcript makes no reference to that case.
The article seems to confirm that it was Helge B who gave Brueckner’s mobile number to the police, who then traced the call as being made in the general area of PdL.
It also confirms that the number was not in the PJ files of 2007 relating to the Maddie case.
Isn’t it likely that the mystery caller that night was Helge B himself, as he did say he was living in the area at the time?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13086481/madeleine-mccann-heartache-suspect-charged-next-year/
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Madeleine McCann’s parents face new heartache as prosecutors say suspect Christian B may not be charged until next year
Nick Pisa
2 Nov 2020, 16:32 Updated: 2 Nov 2020, 16:33
MADELEINE McCann's parents face fresh heartache after prosecutors revealed they would not be charging the prime suspect until next year at the earliest.
Convicted rapist and paedophile Christian B, 43, was identified as the man responsible for the three-year old's kidnap and murder by the German authorities in June.
Kate and Gerry hoped it would mark the end of their 13 year agony at not knowing what had happened to their beloved daughter but now their hopes have been dashed.
Speaking exclusively to The Sun, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters admitted leads had dried up and there would be no developments this year, with charges unlikely before the Spring and only if they find more evidence.
He said: ''I cannot say how long our investigation will go on for but I know there will be no developments this year, in 2020. We had hoped to charge him but that has not been possible.
''Maybe we hope to have something by the Spring of 2021, maybe it could take longer but certainly nothing this year.
''We have some evidence against our suspect but it is not strong enough. We have proof that he was involved and that he killed Madeleine but it's not strong enough to charge him.
''We need more evidence and more witnesses but if we don't get them then the case may drop but we hope that will not happen and he will be charged.''
His downbeat comments are in contrast to June where he announced in a headline grabbing news conference he had ''concrete evidence'' Maddie was dead.
He added: ''So long as we have something to investigate then we will investigate but if no witnesses come forward then we will have to come to an end but at the moment I can't see this point.
"It may be that we have to make another appeal to see if we can get any more tips.
''We have not been in touch with Madeleine's parents other than a few months ago when we made the announcement of our investigation because there is no need to."
Last month Christian B's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher - who insists his client is innocent - called on prosecutors to reveal their evidence to be ''fair'' to his client and the McCann family.
He added: ''The prosecutor has not revealed anything to us about the investigation.
"They are adamant but they are chasing someone who is just convenient to them.''
Madeleine disappeared from her holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast in May 2007.
Christian B - who has convictions for rape and child abuse - is currently serving 21 months for drug offences in Germany's Kiel prison.
At the end of last month we reported how Scotland Yard detectives reportedly held a secret meeting with German and Portuguese police in Lisbon in a bid to find Madeleine.
The aim of the conference was to fine-tune suspect Christian B's profile to try to work out where the child’s body may have been buried after she was kidnapped, with German cops believing she is dead.
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ReplyDeleteThe meeting is said to have taken place “recently” at the Lisbon HQ of the Policia Judiciaria (PJ), the force heading the Portuguese probe into the three-year-old's disappearance, reports daily newspaper Correio da Manha.
Three wells near Praia da Luz are known to have been searched in July but police and firefighters failed to find any trace of Madeleine.
German authorities are treating the case as a murder inquiry and say they have concrete evidence the missing youngster is dead - but have yet to reveal what this evidence they have.
The abandoned wells are a 15-minute drive from Christian B's rented cottage on the outskirts of Praia de Luz, on a narrow road leading down to a beach where the paedophile used to park his VW camper van.
Christian B is also being probed in Germany over a 2004 Algarve rape and a sex attack on a beach near Praia da Luz a month before Madeleine vanished.
In Portugal, prosecutors have reopened their investigation into a sex crime in a playground he was arrested over in 2017.
He was held on suspicion of exposing himself to young children at a playground in Sao Bartolomeu de Messines a 40-minute drive from Praia de Luz.
Police discovered after his detention that he was wanted by Germany on an international arrest warrant for child sex abuse and possession of child pornography.
He was extradited to his homeland and was never prosecuted in Portugal following his Algarve arrest.
The criminal probe was mothballed despite protests from the youngsters’ angry parents but reopened in September.
So now it’s possibly spring, if ever.
DeleteOG are out of the investigation now, unless they decide to look for another suspect.
How would they ever find a better fit than Brueckner? He was their “discovery” in the first place but the German authorities seem to have taken over the case.
Portugal have done what was requested. They have searched the wells and found nothing.
Maddie would have been 18 by next May.
Maybe this is when OG will finally end?
Why no questions for Brueckner?
DeleteNormally, when police have “proof”, as Wolters calls it, surely the next step would be to question the suspect?
Under interrogation, suspects sometimes slip up and reveal incriminating information.
The answer to this rhetorical question seems to be the reluctance of the German prosecutor to make the evidence/proof available to the suspect and his lawyer.
Only when that information is made available can the strength of the evidence be tested.
One day, Brueckner will be used as a case-study: if one is to ever build a patsy for whatever reason, Brueckner is the polar-opposite of what should be done to achieve that.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13144534/madeleine-mccann-cops-german-prosecutors-no-evidence-row/
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‘Shocked’ Madeleine McCann cops claim German prosecutors have ‘no evidence’ Christian B snatched toddler in leaked memo
Nick Pisa
9 Nov 2020, 13:56 Updated: 9 Nov 2020, 13:56
AN international row broke out today as a leaked memo reveals Portuguese cops have rubbished a German probe into Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
Local officers insisted counterparts in Germany have no solid evidence that prime suspect Christian B was involved in snatching the British toddler in 2007.
Officials from the Policia Judiciaria in Portugal, Germany's BKA and Scotland Yard met to discuss the state of the probe.
In June, the convicted rapist and paedophile was identified by German cops as the prime suspect for Madeleine's disappearance in Portugal 13 years ago.
Prosecutors said they had ''concrete evidence'' she was dead but since then there has been no significant development in the long running saga, leaving parents Kate and Gerry facing an agonising uncertainty.
Now a leaked memo from the Policia Judiciaria, seen by The Sun, has revealed dismissive comments made in an internal email following the top secret conference in Lisbon.
In it an unidentified Portuguese officer claimed that the German BKA have no solid leads and are just holding the suspect in jail in the hope they can make two other sex cases against him stick.
He wrote: ''There is no evidence, just speculation. When reading the German case I was shocked. I never thought that the BKA would investigate so badly.
"It is not a serious and objective investigation, but only just to keep the suspect in prison at all costs.
''The meeting was to get the point of the situation, the BKA wants to investigate the other two cases of possible sexual harassment, so that the suspect does not leave prison until the end of the year and they will drop the suspect.''
Portuguese cops have been accused of bungling the investigation and lead officer Goncalo Amaral was later fired after pursuing a false theory that Kate and Gerry were responsible.
Christian B is currently in jail after being convicted of raping a 72 year old woman in Praia da Luz in 2005 - two years before the Brit youngster vanished from the same resort in May 2007 aged three.
He was given seven years but is appealing. German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters hit back at the Portuguese cops, saying: "We don't want to comment on this.
"The accused will have to stay in prison for the next few years anyway."
Last month Christian B's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher - who insists his client is innocent - called on prosecutors to reveal their evidence to be ''fair'' to his client and the McCann family.
He added: ''The prosecutor has not revealed anything to us about the investigation.
"They are adamant but they are chasing someone who is just convenient to them.''
Madeleine disappeared from her holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast.
Three wells near the resort are known to have been searched in July but police and firefighters failed to find any trace of Madeleine.
The abandoned wells are a 15-minute drive from Christian B's rented cottage on the outskirts of Praia de Luz, on a narrow road leading down to a beach where the paedophile used to park his VW camper van.
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ReplyDeleteChristian B is also being probed in Germany over a 2004 Algarve rape and a sex attack on a beach near Praia da Luz a month before Madeleine vanished.
In Portugal, prosecutors have reopened their investigation into a sex crime in a playground he was arrested over in 2017.
He was held on suspicion of exposing himself to young children at a playground in Sao Bartolomeu de Messines a 40-minute drive from Praia de Luz.
Police discovered after his detention that he was wanted by Germany on an international arrest warrant for child sex abuse and possession of child pornography.
He was extradited to his homeland and was never prosecuted in Portugal following his Algarve arrest.
The criminal probe was mothballed despite protests from the youngsters’ angry parents but reopened in September.
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The PJ won’t accept the case against Brueckner. Why aren’t we surprised?
“…that the German BKA have no solid leads and are just holding the suspect in jail in the hope they can make two other sex cases against him stick. He wrote: ''There is no evidence, just speculation. When reading the German case I was shocked. I never thought that the BKA would investigate so badly. It is not a serious and objective investigation, but only just to keep the suspect in prison at all costs.””
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6289432/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-first-public-appearance-parole-germany/
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Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B ‘suffers broken ribs after being attacked in cell’ ahead of parole hearing
Exclusive
Nick Pisa
16 Nov 2020, 16:34 Updated: 17 Nov 2020, 1:34
THE Madeleine McCann prime suspect needed hospital treatment after claiming he was attacked in a German court cell.
Convicted rapist and paedophile Christian B, 43, was treated for two broken ribs yesterday, saying he was assaulted as he waited ahead of a parole hearing.
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher claimed he had been hurt by officials and he would be filing charges - but the court insisted he had ''fallen over''.
Police were said to have been called to the court to deal with the incident and the suspect was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.
Last night a spokesperson for the court said: ''The exact sequence of events is now the subject of investigation.
"Against this background, we cannot comment on the details.''
Christian B was identified by German police as the man responsible for Madeleine's abduction and murder in May 2007.
Yesterday he was driven from prison in Kiel, two hours south to Braunschweig court where he appeared for a parole hearing in his first public appearance.
He is currently serving 21 months for drug offences but he is eligible for parole on January 6 after serving two thirds of his sentence.
Wearing a white mask he was driven into the back of the court building flanked by two police officers before being escorted into the building for the hearing.
A source at the court said: ''The hearing was to decide on whether he can have parole for the drugs case.
''Technically he can be freed in early January as he has served his time but the prosecution is opposing it because of the outstanding Madeleine McCann investigation.''
Madeleine, three, was taken from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast in May 2007.
This year investigators in Germany claimed they had solved the world's most famous missing person's mystery.
They say they have "concrete evidence" she is dead and believe Christian B abducted and murdered her.
He was known to spend time in the area around the resort and was arrested on other matters.
Last December the suspect was also sentenced to seven years in jail for raping a 72-year-old American woman near Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine vanished.
He took his case to the European Court of Justice earlier this year but it was thrown out .
He is expected to serve the full term although his lawyers are appealing the verdict.
It means he will not be released even if he wins parole in the drugs case.
Last week we revealed German investigators vowed to "fight tooth and nail" to convict Christian B for Madeleine's murder.
It came after Portuguese cops rubbished their investigation and claimed they have no real evidence.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-ribs-broken-23020491
ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann suspect's ribs broken in cell as he's seen in public for first time
Christian Brueckner's defence lawyer has reportedly claimed his client was hurt by officials but the court insists he fell over as he waited in a holding cell to appear in court related to a drugs charge
By Joseph WilkesReporter, James King, Andy Lines &Rob Hyde
19:34, 16 NOV 2020
Madeleine McCann prime suspect Christian Brueckner has reportedly broken two ribs in an incident as he was being taken to court today.
The convicted rapist and paedophile was taken to hospital in an ambulance after suffering the injuries as he was being taken to court for his first public appearance since he was named as a suspect in the disappearance of the British toddler.
The 43-year-old was due to appear before German judges to apply for parole in relation to a drugs case that he is involved in.
He is currently serving 21 months for drug-related offences and is eligible for release on January 6, having served two-thirds of his sentence.
He was driven from the German prison in Kiel to the courtroom in Braunschweig some 300km - roughly 186 miles - away for a hearing.
But before the behind closed doors session could start shortly after midday, he ended up being hospitalised and was taken in an ambulance with a blue light where it was later revealed he had apparently broken two ribs.
He had arrived more than an hour before his case was due to be heard, and was kept in a holding cell where the incident happened that resulted in him suffering broken ribs.
The ambulance arrived to take him to the hospital 40 minutes after he arrived.
Eyewitnesses report saying that a prison guard in the entrance greeted the medics telling them: "Somebody's been rioting in there."
He was in the emergency room for an hour before being led back to court with both handcuffs on his wrists and shackles on his feet and the hearing then continued some two hours late.
Court officials have refused to discuss the incident, saying that an investigation was underway.
Brueckner's defence lawyer Friedrich Fuelscher, 36, was heard loudly arguing with prison guards about video footage of the incident from a camera watching the cell where he was being kept.
It is unclear what this has to do with the fact that he was injured or how he was injured.
Meanwhile, the Sun reports Mr Fuelscher claimed his client had been hurt by officials and he would be filing charges.
But the court insisted Brueckner had ''fallen over'' while waiting in the cell downstairs, the paper reports.
Brueckner's appearance in court was a surprise one today.
He was named by German police earlier this year as the prime suspect in Maddie's abduction after mobile phone records placed him in Praia da Luz on the night she vanished.
No press or members of the public were allowed into the the Chamber of Penalties court today.
Brueckner is at the centre of series of complex legal issues.
He is currently serving the sentence in the north German city of Kiel for drug dealing which ends on January 7.
And he has been convicted of the rape of a pensioner in Praia da Luz two years before three-year-old Maddie went missing in 2007 – but he is appealing the seven year sentence.
Maike Block-Cavallaro, spokeswoman for the Braunschweig Regional court confirmed the hearing was about Brueckner's sentence for drug trafficking.
No decision was made today.
Brueckner was returned for the hearing, If he had 2 broken ribs, why would he be shackled and returned to court?
ReplyDeleteWe would have expected the hearing to be adjourned until he had recovered.
We all know that truth does not exactly follow the Maddie case – trying to pin the blame on him is one example – so we will remain sceptic about this episode. No, we’re not saying that it didn’t happen, we’re just leaving open every possibility.
Also, we are aware that it has been widely reported that he won’t be prosecuted regarding Maddie. The reader just has join that dot with the one of him being persistently finger pointed as Maddie’s abductor AND paedo-murderer to understand that to the less enlightened Brueckner is just another vile criminal about to get away with it.
They don’t question that the reason he’s not going to be prosecuted is because he didn’t do it. To them a “couple of broken ribs” befalls under the category of ‘getting what he deserves’. In fact, many will think he deserves a whole lot more.
That, is called lynching.
Lynching has material authors but it has also moral authors. Those who drove the material authors to commit said crime.
“Do not publish” Anonymous at 16 Nov 2020, 23:40:00,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment. 😊
I could understand why CB might kick off if his appeal was turned down, but it’s unlikely a person as familiar as the court systems as he is would behave like this whilst his parole application was under consideration. His alleged behaviour doesn’t make sense.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-23028620.amp
ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner 'had ribs broken after blocking cell toilet'
Convicted rapist and paedophile Christian Brueckner had two ribs broken by prison guards after throwing a "tantrum" around his cell and blocking the toilet before a hearing, reports say
by Berny Torre
09:59, 18 Nov 2020Updated10:00, 18 Nov 2020
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner had two ribs broken by prison guards after throwing "a tantrum" and blocking the toilet, reports say.
The convicted rapist and paedophile, 43, was seen for the first time in public on Monday since he was named by German police as the chief suspect in the three-year-old's 2007 disappearance in the Algarve.
He was rushed to hospital for treatment after he smearing his courthouse cell with yogurt and filling the toilet with loo roll.
He was due to appear before a judge in Braunschweig for a parole hearing on an unrelated drugs charge but 40 minutes after arriving he reacted furiously to being filmed and put in chains.
A source at the court told The Sun: "He got angry at being filmed and complained. He reacted angrily and when he refused to put the shackles on there was a more violent tussle and he hurt himself."
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher told the paper that the guards were filming him via a monitor and asked them to stop.
He added he had to get a judge to ensure the footage was deleted and has filed a criminal complaint against the guards for allegedly beating his client.
The court has claimed that Brueckner had "fallen over" after arriving at the court from his prison in Kiel and an investigation is underway.
Brueckner had been driven 186 miles from Kiel to Braunschweig for a parole hearing on his current 21-month drugs sentence.
He will have served two-thirds of his sentence in January and will be eligible for parole.
The criminal has been identified by German police as the prime suspect in Madeleine's abduction in Portugal 13 years ago.
We didn’t realise Germany shackled prisoners, like the USA does.
DeleteWe still don’t understand why Brueckner would do this prior to an application for parole, knowing it would jeopardise his chances of parole being granted.
We can imagine CCTV recording the holding cell, as that happens in the UK but this seems to suggest the guards were filming him when they had no right to do so.
About the link between Brueckner and Maddie, if there was ever a situation where it would attempted to prove how a lie told a thousand times will become the truth, this would be it.
CB, pelo que se sabe, "admitiu" saber o que se tinha passado e deu a entender que poderia estar envolvido de alguma maneira no caso MBM. Isso é diferente de raptar e matar a criança. A haver um corpo, consequência de uma morte acidental, este teve de estar escondido em algum lado.. CB, pode muito bem ser o elo mais fraco desta história, eu não o dispensaria.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 18 Nov 2020, 14:52:00,
DeleteCould you please give us a link as to where Brueckner "admitted" knowing what had happened and where he implied he was involved in some way with the MBM case?
Thank you
Na conversa de café que teve com o amigo em 2017. Eu acredito que de alguma forma CB esteve envolvido neste trama. Aparentemente ele não tem álibi para essa noite, e digamos que era o tipo de pessoa que faria o género de trabalho sujo. Como disse, a haver um corpo, teve de estar escondido temporariamente em algum lugar. CB conhecia o terreno, não tinha qualquer tipo de pudor, era conhecido no resort, precisava de € ou seja seria o tipo de pessoa a quem alguém eventualmente recorreria, se necessitasse.
DeleteA ser, será uma pequena peça no grande puzzle. Não se lhe avizinha um futuro fácil, o que se seguirá às costelas partidas?!
Anonymous 18 Nov 2020, 21:54:00,
DeleteA friend - that friend in particular - saying Brueckner admitted to something does not qualify as Brueckner admitting to anything.
The rest of you comment, is very, very pertinent and, as the Portuguese say, goes in the direction of Brueckner not admitting anything to anyone.
His possible link to the case - we believe it could be under similar circumstances of those regarding Euclides Monteiro - would have been made elsewhere, by someone who knew about his possible involvement and not by a petty criminal as was this particular friend.
Thank you very much for your comment. Much appreciated.
É verdade que não podemos confirmar se CB realmente o disse, é uma questão de acreditar ou não. A mim parece-me credível ele ter-se descaído num momento vulnerável. Quanto ao amigo, se o denunciou não foi por bom samaritanismo, mas sim porque de algum modo o quis tramar.
DeleteO que quer que tenha acontecido, envolveu um certo número de pessoas e não me parece nada descabido que CB faça parte desse grupo.
Reports of searches in Germany again.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1361646/madeline-mccann-police-investigation-hanover-germany-property-search
Anon,
DeleteThank you for the link. According to this article, it has nothing to do with Brueckner or Maddie.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13232508/cops-search-property-germany/
“The search was initially linked to the Madeleine McCann probe by the local German press.
However, cops have since told The Sun that the operation was unconnected to the missing Brit girl or prime suspect Christian B.”
But even though the article states that it isn’t related to Maddie, do note how the article is all about Maddie.
We would say that the Brueckner “patsying” is on its consolidation stage: make the public automatically link him to Maddie like they do between Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8962299/Madeleine-McCann-police-search-new-property-Hanover-sniffer-dogs.html
ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann police ‘search a new property in Hanover with sniffer dogs’ - a week after Portuguese cops said they were 'shocked' by lack of evidence against main suspect
Police descended on the house near Hanover today after receiving a tip-off
But the eight-hour search has brought no apparent breakthrough in the case
Police searched a nearby allotment in July once used by Christian Brueckner
By Tim Stickings For Mailonline
Published: 14:47 GMT, 18 November 2020 | Updated: 16:01 GMT, 18 November 2020
Madeleine McCann police were today searching a new property in Germany, local media said, months after her suspected kidnapper's nearby allotment was dug up in a search for evidence.
Officers equipped with sniffer dogs and a mobile police station descended on a house near Hanover, where suspect Christian Brueckner once lived, after receiving a tip-off from a member of the public.
Authorities did not reveal the nature of the tip-off, but local newspaper Neue Presse said it was linked to the Madeleine case.
However, the current residents of the house were found to be 'totally blameless' and the eight-hour search has yet to lead to a breakthrough.
Prosecutors told Calenberger Online News that the search had backed up their 'gut feeling' that the tip-off was wrong, while adding that investigations were still ongoing.
A spokesman for the prosecutor's office said there had been doubts about the tip-off from the beginning, but said it could not be ignored.
Their assessment was downbeat enough that the spokesman even suggested that the tipster could be investigated for making a false complaint.
In July, German police searched a vegetable garden 12 miles away which was once occupied by Brueckner, digging up the allotment in a two-day operation.
The allotment was only a short drive away from an apartment block where Brueckner was registered while living in Hanover, and the 'Havana Club' bar which he is thought to have frequented is also nearby.
One gardener said in July that Brueckner had lived off-grid at the allotment in 2007 and talked about planning his return to southern Europe.
'I remembered his face from the pictures in the news. And I remember his van and his dogs. I had completely forgotten about him up until then,' said Wolfgang Kossack, 73.
German media says Brueckner received at least two criminal convictions from a Hanover court, one for forging documents in 2010 and another for theft in 2013.
He split his time between Germany and Portugal from 2013 to 2015, prosecutors in Hanover have said.
Brueckner lived in the Algarve for much of the period from 1995 to 2007, and German prosecutors say he received a phone call from a Portuguese number around the time of Madeleine's disappearance in May 2007.
Brueckner made a living doing odd jobs in the area where Madeleine disappeared, and was also known to have burgled hotel rooms and holiday flats.
Weeks after the allotment search, authorities indicated they had been looking for digital storage devices, but Brueckner's lawyer accused them of 'desperation'.
Since taking the lead in the case earlier this year, German police have struggled to explain what evidence they have about Madeleine's disappearance.
Last week, a leaked memo revealed that Portuguese investigators were 'shocked' by the lack of concrete evidence after being briefed on the case against Brueckner.
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ReplyDeleteBefore that, there was confusion about whether German authorities had specific evidence that Madeleine was dead, as they initially implied they did.
Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, have denied receiving a letter from German investigators stating that 'there is evidence or proof' Madeleine is dead.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, who is leading the German investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, said that a letter had been written to the couple, but would not reveal what it said.
The Metropolitan Police maintain their active investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, Operation Grange, is a missing person inquiry as there is no 'definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead'.
Portuguese authorities are also continuing their investigation and earlier this month searched a series of wells in the Algarve region.
Brueckner is currently in prison for an unrelated drugs conviction, and he is yet to begin a sentence for raping a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal in 2005.
In September, a European court rejected an appeal he had made on procedural grounds against his extradition from Italy to Germany in the drugs case.
A career criminal, he was identified as the new lead suspect in June after German police released a trove of new evidence including details of his cars and phone numbers, urging people to come forward with new tip-offs.
This week it emerged that the 43-year-old was injured while being taken to a parole hearing in Braunschweig.
The Braunschweig court said he sustained injuries to his ribs when law enforcement officers were putting ankle cuffs on him before the hearing Monday.
The court said he was treated in hospital and the parole hearing took place, and he was later returned to prison.
https://www.leine-on.de/laatzen/nachricht/34296-update-was-ist-in-gleidingen-los-grosser-polizeieinsatz.html
ReplyDeleteSynopsis of German article on November 18. Gleidingen is in the town of Laatzen, where Brueckner used to live:
“What’s going on in Gleidingen?”
Many police officers and the SEK have been standing in the Ringstrasse since the early hours of the morning.
Thomas Klinge from Chief Public Prosecutor’s office says dozens of officers are investigating the property and apartment.
At 6.30 am the son was taken from the house in handcuffs by the SEK and around 10am, the mother and officers left the house. They were digging up everything in the garden.
The mission was to prevent further criminal offences, but also to exclude any danger.
Klinge later reports that “Our initial feeling was probably correct because these reports (the tip off ?) have not been substantiated.”
A family have been subjected to an ordeal on the basis of a tip -off which proves to have been unsubstantiated.
Nowhere is CB’s name mentioned but it seems more like an operation related to suspected terrorism.
It just happens to have occurred in the town where CB once lived.
There is also a photo of a large police van and a mobile unit
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About the role of SEK:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEK_(Germany)
“A spokesman for the prosecutor's office said there had been doubts about the tip-off from the beginning, but said it could not be ignored.”
DeleteFrom THE BEGINNING the tip-off offered little credibility but that didn’t stop the tabloid to write an entire article reenforcing the idea that the patsy is not a patsy but the real cuprit.
“Since taking the lead in the case earlier this year, German police have struggled to explain what evidence they have about Madeleine's disappearance.”
They have struggled to explain but as we write these words, we doubt that anyone in the world doesn’t immediately link Brueckner to Maddie.
To the informed ones because he’s a patsy but to the less informed – who are the vast majority – he’s by now Maddie’s abductor and killer.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-madeleine-mccann-case-receive-23033004
ReplyDeletePolice in Madeleine McCann case receive 'interesting' pictures from British tourists
EXCLUSIVE: Police claim to have possible new leads in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann as holiday photos might have 'some interesting things on them'
By Andy Lines & Rob Hyde
22:06, 18 NOV 2020 Updated22:44, 18 NOV 2020
Police probing Madeleine McCann’s abduction have received photos taken by British tourists in Praia da Luz showing “interesting things”.
Prime suspect Christian Brueckner, 43, is back in jail following hospital treatment for two broken ribs which, he alleges, came from a scuffle with guards.
Chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We got leads from England, including ones from tourists on holiday in Portugal during this time.
“We got some photos where there might be some interesting things on them.
"There are quite good leads we are following up.”
But he said the information would take time to pursue and when the UK leaves the European Union this could take even longer as “many things can’t just be clarified at short notice”.
There were reports in Germany of developments in the case of three-year-old Madeleine who vanished on holiday in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007.
But police in Hanover categorically denied any searches carried out were linked to her disappearance.
Mr Wolters said the formal hurdles in the McCann case post-Brexit will get bigger.
He said: “In the EU everything was unified, and there was a uniform legal assistance between the European countries.”
But when the UK leaves he said Germany would have to “make a formal request, which means that we then write a very formal letter and then query everything individually”.
Phone records put Brueckner near the scene on the night Madeleine went missing.
He is serving a jail term for drug offences in Kiel, Germany.
He was sentenced to another seven years for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz in 2005 but is appealing against his conviction.
Why would tourists be sending photos now?
DeleteDoes he mean German tourists?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8965403/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-freaked-court-cell-broke-ribs-wooden-bed.html
ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann suspect LOSES his parole bid: Christian Brueckner must complete jail term for drug charges, court rules
Brueckner hoped to serve the remaining part of his sentence on probation
But a regional court denied his appeal in a ruling announced on Thursday
German media reported Brueckner broke two ribs in incident on Monday
He had smeared surveillance cameras with yogurt and blocked the cell's toilet
When officers came to arrest him, he refused to kneel so he could be shackled
Prison guards are said to have then kicked his legs out, causing him to fall
The 43-year-old was then loaded into ambulance after breaking two ribs
At this point, he was seen for first time since being named the prime suspect
By Chris Jewers For Mailonline
Published: 10:20 GMT, 19 November 2020 | Updated: 14:38 GMT, 19 November 2020
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner has lost his parole bid and must complete the remaining time of his jail term behind bars, a court has ruled.
The chief suspect in the 2007 disappearance of the three-year-old is currently in prison in the German town of Kiel for one year and nine months for drug trafficking.
He has already served two thirds of his sentence, and in theory would have the right to early parole.
However, the Regional Court of Braunschweig announced today that he could not serve the remainder of his sentence on probation after hearing the matter on Tuesday, citing his 'multiple criminal record and failed probation.'
Brueckner's probation for a previous case was revoked because he committed several offences during the probation period, including drug crimes and sexual acts against children.
The court said therefore in the event of a relapse during his probation period, a serious relapse is expect, Bild reported, adding that the court was unable to determine factors that could deter him from committing further crimes.
The news comes after reports in Germany on Monday said that Brueckner freaked out in his cell after being barred from smoking and then broke his ribs on a wooden bed when his legs were kicked away from him by prison guards ahead of his trial.
Brueckner felt that he was being manipulated by the police officers, who had forbidden him to smoke, and was angry at being filmed and shackled ahead of a court hearing, the report says.
In retaliation, he covered the surveillance cameras in his cell with yogurt and blocked the toilet with paper, according to Bild.
When court officials entered the cell to arrest him, they handcuffed his hands to his belt, and told him to kneel down so that he could be shackled, Brueckner reportedly told his lawyer.
When he refused, the prison guards allegedly kicked his legs out from underneath him, causing him to fall on to a wooden bed, breaking two of his ribs.
The incident came the day before police searched a new property where Brueckner once lived in connection with the case, after receiving a tip-off from the public.
The convicted rapist and paedophile was rushed to hospital for treatment after the incident in court on Monday. Police are now also investigating the judicial officers involved in the incident.
His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher claims to have seen surveillance camera footage showing the subsequent firs aid treatment of his client that a constable filmed on her cell phone.
The district court's president is said to have requested the footage be deleted, according to Bild.
As he was being loaded into the ambulance on Monday, Brueckner, 43, was seen for the first time in public since being named by German police as the chief suspect in the three-year-old's 2007 disappearance in the Algarve.
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ReplyDeleteHe had been due to appear before a judge in Braunschweig for a parole hearing on an unrelated drugs charge, but sparked the incident around 40 minutes after arriving with his furious reaction to being filmed and put in chains.
The hearing - that began two hours late - was about the possibility that Brueckner's remaining prison sentence that he is currently serving for drug trafficking in Keil will be suspended on probation.
Because Brueckner was sentenced to seven years for rape in a separate trial, Bild states that it is likely that he will be released on parole.
On Tuesday, police in Germany searched a new property, local media said, months after McCann's suspected kidnapper's nearby allotment was dug up in a search for evidence.
Officers equipped with sniffer dogs and a mobile police station descended on a house near Hanover, where suspect Christian Brueckner once lived, after receiving a tip-off from a member of the public.
Authorities did not reveal the nature of the tip-off, but local newspaper Neue Presse said it was linked to the Madeleine case.
However, the current residents of the house were found to be 'totally blameless' and the eight-hour search has yet to lead to a breakthrough.
Prosecutors told Calenberger Online News that the search had backed up their 'gut feeling' that the tip-off was wrong, while adding that investigations were still ongoing.
Speaking about Monday's incident, a source at the court told The Sun: 'He got angry at being filmed and complained. He reacted angrily and when he refused to put the shackles on there was a more violent tussle and he hurt himself.'
Fulscher told the paper that the guards were filming him via a monitor and were asked to stop by Brueckner.
'They refused and an argument started. This carried on and they attacked my client with a baton after he refused to put the prison shackles on. He suffered serious injuries, two broken ribs.' The lawyer said.
'It was behaviour not expected from guards. I had to get a judge involved to ensure the footage was deleted.
'Yes, he did dirty his cell but he was understandably angry at being filmed.'
Fulscher has filed a criminal complaint against the guards for allegedly beating his client.
The court has claimed that Brueckner had 'fallen over' after arriving at the court from his prison in Kiel.
A prison guard is said to have told the paramedics who arrived that 'someone had been rioting.'
He was pictured on Monday being escorted back out to a waiting ambulance for transportation back to custody after receiving treatment in A&E.
A court spokesman said at the time: 'The exact sequence of events is now the subject of investigation. Against this background, we cannot comment on the details.'
Brueckner had been driven 186 miles from Kiel to Braunschweig for a parole hearing on his current 21-month drugs sentence.
He will have served two-thirds of his sentence in January and will be eligible for parole.
The criminal has been identified by German police as the prime suspect in Madeleine's abduction in Portugal 13 years ago
Wearing a face mask, Brueckner was driven into the back of the court on Monday flanked by police officers.
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ReplyDeleteForty minutes later he was rushed out by paramedics after his 'fall.'
The prosecution is opposing his parole because of the outstanding investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.
The three-year-old was abducted from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the popular Algarve region.
German prosecutors say they have 'concrete evidence' that the toddler is dead and are convinced Brueckner was behind the infamous case.
They said Brueckner - who has previous convictions for child abuse and rape - was known to be in the Algarve the year that Madeleine disappeared.
Detectives say phone data proves Brueckner was near the Praia da Luz resort when Madeleine vanished, but have not yet revealed a 'smoking gun' proving that he is the one who took her.
Asked last month whether forensic evidence can place Brueckner inside the flat where Madeleine vanished, he said: 'I have an answer but we have decided not to divulge this information.
'I can't say 'yes' or 'no' as that would bring a thousand other questions and I cannot go into details.
'But you have to believe me when I say we have more evidence.
'Here in Germany our Public Ministry only divulges things when they are solid.'
But last week, Portuguese police accused German cops of having no evidence that Brueckner abducted Madeleine, according to a leaked memo.
Officers from the Policia Judiciaria said they were 'shocked' after being briefed on the German case against Brueckner, adding there is 'no evidence, just speculation'.
Portuguese detectives believe the allegations against Brueckner are designed to 'keep him in prison at all costs', and accused their German counterparts of failing to conduct a serious investigation.
The extraordinary claims were contained in a memo prepared by Portuguese police after meeting with German BKA detectives and investigators from Scotland Yard.
A leaked copy of the memo was shown to The Sun, in which a Portuguese officer wrote: 'There is no evidence, just speculation.
'When reading the German case I was shocked. I never thought that the BKA would investigate so badly.
'The meeting was to get the point of the situation, the BKA wants to investigate the other two cases of possible sexual harassment, so that the suspect does not leave prison until the end of the year and they will drop the suspect.
'It is not a serious and objective investigation, but only just to keep the suspect in prison at all costs.'
Portuguese police have been accused of bungling the investigation, including pursuing the theory that Madeleine's parents - Kate and Jerry - were responsible.
Goncalo Amaral was fired over his handling of the investigation, and successfully sued by the McCanns after pushing the theory they were responsible in a book.
Hans Christian Wolters, the prosecutor leading the German case, was forced to admit last month that the evidence they have gathered is not strong enough to see Brueckner charged.
He added that they are 'one witness' away from getting the evidence they need, but so far nobody has come forward.
Brueckner has previously said he is innocent of any crime relating to the four-year-old.
It seems it happened over a yoghurt. The Telegraph says the altercation started because Brueckner wasn’t allowed to smoke, so nothing to do with fellow inmates targeting a supposed paedo.
DeleteThe Mail still repeating the story about the search which was the result of a tip-off.
https://www.thesun.ie/news/6170452/madeleine-mccann-suspect-early-prison-release-bid-rejected/
ReplyDeleteGET OUT OF JAIL FAIL
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B has early prison-release bid REJECTED as court rules he must stay behind bars
Exclusive
Nick Pisa
19 Nov 2020, 10:34 Updated: 19 Nov 2020, 13:11
MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B will stay in jail after his parole request was rejected by judges who ruled he was a ''security risk''.
The 43-year-old convicted rapist and paedophile had appealed to be released early after serving two thirds of a 21-month sentence for drug offences.
He was eligible for parole in June but the decision was delayed after German authorties identified him as the prime suspect for Madeleine's abduction and murder.
Earlier this week he suffered two broken ribs after an alleged attack by guards at the court in Braunschweig, Germany, where he had appeared for his parole hearing.
But this morning in a dramatic ruling judges said he should remain in jail at Keil, northern Germany.
In a statement they said the request was rejected and added:' 'This has the consequence that the criminal detention continues.
''The chamber has thus followed the assessment of the public prosecutor's office, which, in agreement with the prison, is also against a conditional release
''As a justification, the Penal Enforcement Chamber stated that, taking into account the security interests of the general public, a suspended sentence cannot be held responsible. The convicted person has multiple criminal records and parole failures.
''In particular the convict committed several offences during the probation period. In the past, the convict had crimes among them the sexual acts on children, which is why serious crimes are to be expected in the event of a relapse.
Madeleine was three when she vanished from a flat in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz while on holiday with her family in May 2007.
Prosecutors said in June they had "concrete evidence" she was dead and have named Christian B as the main suspect.
"Stabilising factors that could deter the convicted from committing further crimes were not found.''
Reports last night claimed Christian B’s lawyers in Germany have filed a criminal complaint for alleged assault.
The Sun Online can reveal the altercation, which came after he refused put on restraints, is the latest in a string of incidents involving Christian B in recent weeks.
The incident is said to have happened on Monday after Christian B was driven 240 miles from jail in Kiel to Braunschweig for a parole hearing.
A source at the court said the pedophile had "thrown a tantrum'' in his cell, smearing it with yoghurt and blocking the toilet with loo roll, because guards were filming him.
He wouldn’t have been successful in a parole application in the UK, regardless of his behaviour in the cell.
DeleteNote, he is referred to as "pedophile" even though his only conviction is related with the rape of an old woman.
All his supposed crimes against minors are alleged at this point in time.
https://meaww.com/amp/madeleine-mc-cann-suspect-christian-brueckner-to-stay-in-prison-until-at-least-2026-raping-old-woman
ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner to stay jailed at least till 2026 for raping 72-year-old woman
The convict had appealed the rape conviction in a technicality, he can now only apply for parole from 2023
By Namrata Tripathi
Published on : 03:21 PST, Nov 21, 2020
Madeleine McCann's murder suspect, Christian Brueckner, is reportedly set to stay in prison at least until 2026, reports state. The update came on Friday, September 20, after judges rejected his appeal on a rape conviction. Brueckner was sentenced to seven years in prison in December 2019 for attacking a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2005. The convict had appealed the rape conviction in a technicality, he can now only apply for parole from 2023.
Brueckner, a 43-year-old pedophile from Germany, was named by authorities in June as the prime suspect in Madeleine's missing case. The three-year-old mysteriously disappeared from her parents' vacation apartment at The Ocean Club Resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal on the night of May 3, 2007. Judges in Germany dismissed Brueckner's appeal and confirmed his seven-year sentence. The news was welcomed by the investigators probing Madeleine's case as one of them said: "t's great news. It means he won't be going anywhere for a very long time and so we can carry on building up our case against him."
Brueckner, earlier this week, reportedly suffered two broken ribs in mysterious circumstances in his prison cell before applying for parole, which was eventually rejected. Reports state that Brueckner had the injuries after being involved in a scuffle with prison guards after throwing a "tantrum" because he was not allowed to smoke in the courthouse. Latest pictures showed Brueckner being led out of the building to be taken to a hospital for treatment.
Brueckner had reportedly appealed against the rape convicting in July at the European Court of Justice, claiming that his arrest warrant was applied incorrectly. Germany's Federal Court, in a statement, said: "The Braunschweig Regional Court sentenced the accused to a total imprisonment of seven years for serious rape.
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ReplyDeleteAccording to the findings of the regional court, the defendant attacked a 72-year-old American woman in September 2005 at her house in the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia de Luz."
"He threatened the woman with a scimitar, handcuffed her and raped her. Then he forced his victim to hand over money," the statement continued. "The 6th Criminal Senate of the Federal Court of Justice had submitted the legal question to the European Court of Justice as to whether the principle of mutual legal assistance as defined in European law opposed the specialty of conviction." The court statement added: "The Court of Justice denied this with a judgment of September 24, 2020. Since the appellate review of the judgment of the Regional Court of Braunschweig — apart from a clarification of the sentence formula — did not reveal any legal error to the detriment of the accused, the Senate rejected his appeal as unfounded in accordance with the motion of the Attorney General. The aforementioned judgment is therefore final."
Brueckner's criminal history states that he was convicted of sexually abusing a child in 1994 when he was 17. The suspect was reportedly given a youth sentence of two years. Later, in 2016, he was imprisoned again for a year and three months for "abusing a child in the act of procuring himself and possessing child pornography," and in June 2017 he received 15 months' prison sentence for sexual abuse of a child. Brueckner, as he went in and out of prison, spent his time between Germany and Portugal, where he was living at the time of Madeleine's disappearance. The suspect would have been 30 at the time when the toddler disappeared. His phone records showed him near the resort on the day of Maddie's disappearance.
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This article updates everything and gives accurate details of convictions related to children.
The ECJ referenced the 2017 offence.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/13330977/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-maximum-security-prison/
ReplyDeleteNEW CELL
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B to be transferred to maximum security prison ahead of questioning in New Year
Exclusive
Nick Pisa
29 Nov 2020, 15:47 Updated: 29 Nov 2020, 15:47
MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B is moving to a maximum security prison ahead of questioning in the New Year.
The convicted paedophile and rapist 43, is currently serving a 21-month drugs sentence and is in isolation for his own safety.
In January, that term will end and he will be moved from Kiel maximum security prison to one 200 miles south in Lower Saxony at either Celle or Wolfenbuttel.
Both are Category A maximum security.
Christian B has already spent time in Wolfenbuttel when he was on remand ahead of his trial last year for raping a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz in 2005 - just two years before Madeleine vanished.
MAXIMUM SECURITY
Judges at Germany's Federal court confirmed the sentence earlier this month and while on remand investigators used an informant to spy on him to gain evidence for their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.
The move will make it easier for prosecutors based at Braunsweig to question him in connection with the Madeleine case, and two other sex crimes they are trying to pin on him.
Christian B was identified as the prime suspect in the Madeleine disappearance last June by German investigators.
They said they had ''concrete evidence'' she was dead and that he was responsible, although no charges have been brought yet.
'CONCRETE EVIDENCE'
A source close to the case said: ''(Christian B) hasn't been questioned yet in connection with the Madeleine inquiry as the evidence is still being gathered and checked but the idea is to wait until he is closer to where the team are based.
''A 640km round trip (400 miles) every week would waste a lot of time and resources and now we know he will be in prison until 2026 we know where he is and we can get to him easier.
''The feeling is though he won't say anything even when we do see him but at least it will make it easier.''
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: ''In Germany, the execution of sentences is basically the federal state in which the conviction took place.
''This also has cost reasons, because each federal state only wants to pay for the execution of sentences for which it is itself responsible.''
Lawyer Friedrich Fulscher, who is defending him and insists the police have the wrong man, said: ''It's very likely he will be transferred in January but I have no comment to make.''
Why a high security prison?
Deleteconvém.. isso só parece demonstrar que ele sabe/fez alguma coisa. Digamos que haverá muito Boa gente que o quer caladinho.. ;)
Deletehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13365219/maddie-cops-confident-charge-christian-b/
ReplyDeleteIt’s already been stated that he wasn’t involved in Hazel B rape. This article seems out-of -date.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8791497/amp/Main-suspect-Madeleine-McCann-case-CLEARED-rape-Irish-woman.html
DeleteDNA mismatch.
Seems unlikely he will be charged in this case.
Is The Sun doing this of their own volition? Or, has someone been buying ad space again? My guess would be that the same old crowd, Sky, The Sun and ilk are pushing this to the death to cover their own miserable backsides.
DeleteMadeleine missing doesn't make serious dough anymore, discovering her whereabouts will inevitably be a massive windfall for anyone willing to take it on though.
So, why don't they do it? Loyalty? Lawyers? Contracts?
Whatever it was and ostensibly still is, they certainly weren't honest with the public or considerate of their legal rights, and specifically their human rights.
And Wolters, that man is a schoolboy in short pants and an even shorter jacket playing pin the tail on the donkey with the big boys.
I'll say it again, why is Wolters doing this? And, what's in it for him? He's a clown and can't even stop himself from laughing at the most serious moments on camera.
I wouldn't hire him, there are far too many obvious signs of the flake in a cheap ill-fitted suit being too weak and way too untrustworthy already.
Madeleine was not abducted, nor is she anywhere in Deutschland either. You're a mug, Herr Wolters. And you are not going to pin Madeleine's death on vile scum like him.
You're not even an active participant in this crazy sideshow, you're just another one-dimensional guy who has a few clumsy lines in a long-running and wholly unedifying, fictitious scripted plot.
One neatly dotted with crumbs of truth to make it plausible to the various levels of gullibility demographic. And no, I did not mention Mrs Bragalot in Paradise;)
Show some respect for Madeleine, all of you, it's more than way past overdue.
Thanks, Textusa! I'm just sick and tired of the wimps and imbeciles, all of whom shouldn't be anywhere near a case involving the most vulnerable and defenceless members of society.
A child for goodness sake, a little one of only allegedly 90cms high. I use the word allegedly because so much of what has been documented in the files is clearly their story, which to all intents and purposes is an in-house fairy tale.
All I could honestly testify to knowing in this case is that Madeleine was once a real and alive human being. As for the rest, there's no way I could hand on heart swear to any of it being true.
Dame Cressida Dick.
ReplyDelete"Madeleine McCann still a missing person case" 3/12/2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55181357
https://www.irvinetimes.com/news/national-news/18918858.scotland-yard-will-continue-missing-madeleine-mccann-probe/
DeleteIf there was any evidence, why wouldn’t it be shared between the police of the 3 countries?
Particularly before Brexit could complicate matters of exchange of information.
Is there some sort of competition between Germany and the UK?
Let’s hope he is charged so that his alleged involvement can be aired in public.
Simply asserting Brueckner is guilty isn’t convincing evidence.
I think OG is being distanced from Germany because CD knows it’s unlikely CB will be prosecuted by Germany. OG took down their appeal for info about CB and the phone calls a few weeks ago.
DeleteOG prefer to follow the line of she may be alive because the search for a dead M would go nowhere and couldn’t justify OG continuing?
Maybe CD doesn’t want the PJ to release any files on any work done. Which is what they might do once OG declares it has no further role.
I doubt Portugal want to pursue this case and would declare their investigations have come to an end once OG says they are no longer investigating.
Once we Brexit, I imagine we will have a less powerful influence in Portugal.
The PJ won’t be interested in OG’s leads.
When people try to debate the McCann case on twitter, a certain person who has never made any contributions to the case, always comes along to try and disrupt and intimidate people with personal insults.
ReplyDeleteColumbian Ric
@RicColumbian
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@RicColumbian
@EricaCantona7
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@jules999x
Or Fredthefish10 aka Andy, aka Sydthesquid who remarkabley has a Yorkshire accent and says he’s from Wilmslow
4:14 PM · May 31, 2020
Niklas Ericson
@ericson_niklas
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Hello #McCann I´am back
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You're a Prat, N-E. Are you still giving Tony Bent Bennett a nosh? Clown on #McCann Do one, you idiot.
SidTheStarFish
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@lyssa_jordan
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Nick. I've seen your Tweets for a long time & if I'm being honest, then I think you're a Prat! However - what does this Prat think on #McCann ? Can you Think for yourself? (That's a genuine Q) Cheers.
1:21 AM · Dec 3, 2020·Twitter Web App
There's another article by the by the BBC today claiming essentially that Wondrous Wolters will nail his man to the wall after all. There's evidence alright, and your man's got it, just not enough to prove their earthshattering investigative genius yet.
ReplyDeleteWhoever 'they are', as of course we have heard the pluralised version of prosecutor mentioned on numerous occasions, yet the only prosecutor named is Herr Plausibility himself.
Seriously, has no-one reported the blustering lying idiot yet? If not, it's high time someone put pen to paper and had him removed from a job he is clearly rubbish at.
Madeleine was not abducted.
Madeleine was not taken by Bruckner, [you sick bast*rds for even thinking it].
Madeleine was not taken to Germany and is not buried there.
Go to Rothley FGS.
Apologies for the repetition on the first line and the incorrect spelling of the convict's last name, Text. I should have read it through before publishing.
DeleteNo sleep and bad medication. Sorry!!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55224904
ReplyDeleteMadeleine McCann: Public 'would reach same conclusion' on suspect
By Jenny Hill
BBC Berlin correspondent
A prosecutor who believes Madeleine McCann was killed by a German sex offender says the public would reach the same conclusion if they "knew the evidence we had".
Hans Christian Wolters told the BBC that while his team does not currently have enough evidence to charge Christian B, he is "very confident".
Their prime suspect is in prison serving sentences in Germany for drug smuggling and rape.
Madeleine disappeared in 2007.
She was on holiday with her family in Praia da Luz, Portugal, at the time of her disappearance, the same resort where Christian B raped a 72-year-old American woman.
Suspects' surnames are not usually revealed in Germany for privacy reasons.
Although Christian B, 43, was identified as a suspect in June prosecutors do not have enough evidence to charge him.
Mr Wolters said: "If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can't give you details because we don't want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations."
The six-month investigation has yielded fresh evidence of other alleged crimes.
Christian B lived in Portugal on and off for years and investigators now believe he may have committed at least three other sex crimes here - two of them against children, Mr Wolters said.
He said charges may follow early next year.
Mr Wolters said progress in the case of Madeleine was slower because of the logistical challenges posed by a disappearance now 13 years old in a different country.
But he said his team was working to build a water tight case against him.
Christian B recently lost an appeal against his rape conviction and will remain in prison for a seven-year sentence once his current drugs sentence ends in January.
Mr Wolters said: "I can't promise, I can't guarantee that we have enough to bring a charge but I'm very confident because what we have so far doesn't allow any other conclusion at all."
Last week, Met Police commissioner Dame Cressida Dick said that the Met's position had not changed since the summer, when the force said its investigation - Operation Grange - remained a missing person inquiry as there is no "definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead".
Madeleine, from Rothley in Leicestershire, went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, on 3 May 2007, shortly before her fourth birthday.
Christian B is currently serving a prison sentence for drug offences in Germany and lost an appeal last month against a further seven-year sentence for rape.
He attacked the American woman in 2005 in the same area where Madeleine disappeared about 18 months later.
Police believe he was regularly living in this part of Portugal between 1997 and 2007, staying in a camper van at the time he is suspected of abducting Madeleine.
“Mr Wolters said: "If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can't give you details because we don't want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations."”
DeleteReally? Where have we heard people saying they have evidence but can’t show it?
The Trump legal team alleging fraud (but only outside the court-rooms), saying they have evidence of it but not “being able” to provide it.
Oh, and who could forget Jules and her BRT pics?
DeleteSurprised she hasn't manufactured at least one so far, we know Photoshop has been around since forever, we also know that even though much of the general public know this, they still fall for it, hook, line and sinker - every time.
DeleteThat tells me that that individual (or more than one) is not part of the inner circle, more like a troublemaker and attention-seeker who knows half a story and has made up the rest with a little help from her superstar internet sleuthing and agitator friends.
You are not wrong about the BRT ludicrousness, it was a snack and drinks bar there to serve the pool, and not till late at night either, that's it, you are correct and that one is a liar.
"A prosecutor who believes Madeleine McCann was killed by a German sex offender says the public would reach the same conclusion if they "knew the evidence we had."
ReplyDeleteDrafting in foreign police to act as publicity officials for the prime suspects is a novel idea, and is providing amusement for people who have read this latest rubbish.
However, the German police should note that the general public have no reason whatsoever to doubt the evidence in the PJ files. Most of which was provided by the McCanns and their friends during interviews. The German police may wish to read the PJ files before continuing to make fools of themselves.
For instance, CB could not have had access to the McCanns hired car to transport Madeleine's frozen corpse without the McCanns and their friends knowing about it. (Evidence of Madeleine's bodily fluids were discovered in the car.)
Therefore the German police have scored an own goal here. As this would firmly suggest the McCanns must have been in league with CB at some point after the death of Madeleine.
Are the Germans playing slowly, slowly catchee monkeys here? If so, they should carry on. This can only assist in justice for Madeleine. Rest in peace.
Everyone knows he's a troll who stalks and attacks people on the case and disrupts all discussions. They know he pretends to be a businessman living in Wilmslow, when in reality he is a benefits scrounger from Yorkshire. This info came from Zora McCartney, who also said he found out Jules is allegedly related to people connected to the McCann family, after infiltrating her fence-sitting group, and that he calls Jules 'Roland Rat' behind her back.
ReplyDelete���������������� ᖇᗴᗷᗴᑕᑕᗩ Glowing star
@loverandomieigh
Except, the troll in question is NOT a pro #McCann & is actually besties with ur lot ~ colonel porker, spoon Spoon & Co.
Nice try chinny Clown face
@Anvil161Anvil16
I see
@AlgarvePost
(Walker and his shared account) has been owned, hissing like a caged rat and spewing names. His tweet 'liked' of course by the repugnant slags and hypocrites. #mccann
Elaine Strachan #kbf
@strackers74
"Walker"
How stupid are these ppl? Someone pls tell Arnie there is no Walker let alone Michael Wright being Walker - PLEASE!!! The guy just won't listen to sense
@Anvil161Anvil16
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Not surprisingly, Walker, the abhorrent, is liked by Jules who is (supposedly) opposed to him (he wrote an unflattering poem about her wide knickers and her snatch) unless it suits her weird agenda. In which case they lick each others malignant sores. #mccann
Elaine Strachan #kbf
@strackers74
There r some smart people on the periphery of the inner sanctum of scum. Why don't they call out Spoon&PIN & ask them about their weird relationships with Frog & Walker?
I had a look for the 1st time in a while & apart from not having to read ferret bile YAY (result), nowt's diff
Anonymous 9 Dec 2020, 11:46:00,
DeleteWe’ve seen no evidence that Jules is related to either side of the McCann family, although it’s been suggested that Misty (Frog) and a Jules were linked on a forum that no longer exists. We think it was Amazon.
In the days when HTFM was at its peak, many people from across the country were linked, but we can’t recall the names from so long ago.
Also, we have first-hand experience on how unreliable the source of information you mention is.
Not seen evidence of her being connected myself, but saw them start rumours she is connected to a female family member who is never mentioned. His assertions that Frog is Kate McCann and Walker is Michael Wright make the tag look ridiculous.
DeleteSidTheShark
@sid_shark
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@MistyDa83907643
@craig_c83
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FRANCESCA FROG.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE KATE #McCann
10k to anyone right now, if I'm wrong
I never am!
Cheers.
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Crap defense Nonsense as Per, Frog/Kate...
The Parents are Guilty, as you bloody well know!
What's with this Rubbish, that has Sod all to do with the #McCann
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... you're not very good at this, are you Toad!
You're all going down
Can't wait to see it on #McCann
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339314673737490434
ReplyDeleteFrancesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @cantona_erica, @MMTRUTHORLIE and 48 others
It was rectangular judging by photos of Dolphin seating areas - so still a BRT. The round ones may have been hidden from view, only brought out on special occasions.
9:01 PM · Dec 16, 2020·Twitter Web App
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So something that is rectangular is also round. Go figure.
Throwing basic geometry out the window and supposing that a rectangular object can be simultaneously round, if the BRT was available for special occasions, why did Tanner describe the “mackling” of other small tables to make a large, round table?
DeleteIt would have been easier to bring out the special table, as these function tables are very easy to assemble.
Nowhere is it stated by the Tapas staff that a special table had to be ordered for the second time the group (said that) they ate there.
Why would the Tapas bar already have a special large, round table-in-waiting when it was easier to link 2, 3 or whatever number would be needed of square tables together? Square tables, BTW, which are missing from Frog’s photo of the esplanade and are rather numerous in pictures in Amaral’s book.
Besides, Frog has already acknowledged that there was no BRT at Tapas before the T9 arrived. For some reason she deleted her original account.
As promised, the blog we will publish that acknowledgement the moment Jules publishes the BRT photos she says she has and which will own the blog, a threat made almost 2 years ago.
There was no BRT. And that Jules mouthpiece has lied about its existence to likeminded individuals because they too are sufficiently ignorant enough to swallow any old invented twaddle on Twitter and such.
DeleteThey know nothing, and they care about Madeleine and the truth even less. They say Madeleine is missing every day when she is not. In short, those people are a complete waste of time and space re anything that resembles reality in the Maddie affair.
Madeleine is not missing, they can't even get that basic fact straight. Just another clown act, amongst the countless many..
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339700645062914048
DeleteFrancesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @Jules1602xx, @craig_c83, and 48 others
And now the person who doesn't realise the words rectangular & round both start with the letter "r" has had the audacity to criticise your intelligence. 🙄
10:34 PM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter Web App
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This individual explains that she means that the acronym BRT which stands for Big Round Table – used to describe SPECIFICALLY the table allegedly used by the T9 at Tapas and its round shape is in the PJ Files drawn up by Kate McCann – can also stand for Big Rectangular Table.
The individual does not mention but BRT can also stand for Big Rhombus Table, Big Rock Table or, this only for our Portuguese readers, Big Raiostapartam Table. What relevance does Rectangular, Rhombus, Rock or Raiostapartam have to do with the Maddie case? None whatsoever.
Imagine that when discussing which car brand that one reputes to be the best, one would mention one of the following 621 miniature car brands:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_model_car_brands
Technically, all of them are cars and each one is a brand so when mentioning any of 621 brands in the discussion above, one would be indeed mentioning a “car brand”. Faultlessly.
But one would only mention any of the 621 in the context of the abovementioned conversation if one was a moron, if one wanted to derail the conversation or, most likely, both.
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339292733731713028
ReplyDeleteFrancesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @craig_c83, @grandwazoo19 and 48 others
Don't tell anyone else but...Textusa thinks Jules is related to the McCanns so she's really my sister-in-law 🤣
7:34 PM · Dec 16, 2020·Twitter Web App
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This just shows how allergic to the truth this individual is. But then, she had to delete her original account didn’t she?
Just to highlight this individual’s dishonesty, we said quite clearly that there was no evidence Jules was related to either side of McCann family.
DeleteBoth sides of the McCann family are also well educated, which Jules doesn’t appear to be.
Jules knows how to read a script, but can't seem to discern whether it's fiction or not. Therefore she cherry picks and decides what resonates with her subjective analyses and conclusions and what does not.
DeleteThat's the primary reason why, effectively, and in real concrete proof terms...she knows NOWT.
Stop lying and saying Madeleine is missing, she is not.
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339700645062914048
DeleteFrancesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @Jules1602xx, @craig_c83, and 48 others
And now the person who doesn't realise the words rectangular & round both start with the letter "r" has had the audacity to criticise your intelligence. 🙄
10:34 PM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter Web App
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Interesting is to see someone trying to be clever with words and failing miserably, especially when incapable of understanding the difference between being intelligent and being educated.
To help this individual, and quoting Google:
Education is knowledge acquired in formal learning environments, such as school.
Intelligence is that actual ability to learn, to acquire, assimilate, and use new knowledge
Iit’s noted that with her silence, this individual has tacitly recognized that she has lied about the connection she alleges we made between Jules and the McCanns.
Nothing shows better a person’s character than when that persons denigrates dwarfism to attack someone:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1339733849501282304
Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16
He's also higher in that table than you.
12:46 AM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App
Team TEXTUSA, I wish you a Happy New Year. With my gratitude for your great work. Happy New Year also to your (6) readers ;) all around the world. Thank you, Team Textusa !
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 29 Dec 2020, 15:04:00,
DeleteThank you so much! Crossing fingers that 2021 will be a great year for you as well as for our other "five" readers! :)
https://www.thesun.ie/news/6339591/maddie-mccann-detectives-believe-case-solved/
ReplyDeleteA slightly re-warmed story
The addition seems to be that relations between Germany and Portugal are far from cordial.
Possibly CB has some knowledge of what happened on May 3rd but he’s not the abductor.
From the article:
Delete"Parents Kate and Gerry, of Rothley, Leics, are said to be “baffled” that Christian B, who is in prison, has not yet been quizzed".
I'll bet they are, if he was out and about what did he see, important witness? Wolters has never said that CB took the girl out of 5a.
Wolters will look like the village idiot when he's finally confronted with the real truth. German turf, son? No, lad. Rothley, just go to Rothley for afternoon tea, concrete truth and sympathy.
DeleteHe won't though, because as anyone with an ounce of sense knows, this affair, is precisely and with zero exception, nothing to do with him.
Ask Brunt.
All I want to say at the moment is Happy New Year, and karma is working. It is undoubtfully working in the most mysterious of ways, but it is working. Egos and false beliefs are major components in the doggedly rigid adherence to the shockingly egregious and ultimately dangerously dumba** pact.
ReplyDeleteMake it a great one, make it a fabulous one, make it the best one yet. Lies destroy. Truth transforms. And our NHS is ripe for a thorough national audit. Then Leicester Constabulary, then Grange, then we go for the rest. Dig, remove, cleanse, repeat. Until it's done...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9133425/amp/Madeleine-McCann-police-Germany-interview-witnesses-knew-paedophile-Christian-Brueckner.html
ReplyDeleteThis should be interesting.
He was said by a girlfriend to have had relationships with older women in the area. We bet they will be mortified if they are interviewed.
It will be interesting if Robert Murat is interviewed, given that his partner Michaela once had a German food shop in the area and Murat himself travelled to Germany to buy cars and also knew the American rape victim.
Uma vizinha (entrevistada por Sandra Felgueiras) de Bruekner também conhecia a mulher americana, coincidência ou não. Também havia um individuo alemão que trabalhou na cozinha do tapas bar e que foi despedido ou saiu por livre vontade pouco antes de 3 de Maio.. Outra coincidência.
DeleteRuth McClean was the neighbour of Brueckner who knew the American woman. Ruth was interviewed by Sandra Felgueiras.
DeleteRuth and her daughter said they hadn’t seen Brueckner or his camper van in the area, as he’d left the property some time ago. Ruth cleaned up the property after he left. She knew the American women, but hadn’t been told anything about the attack.
The programme also showed documents that described the woman being assisted by neighbours, but Ruth obviously wasn’t one of them.
There was a Peter K, an OC worker (PJ Files says in a handwritten comment that he was a cook at Tapas), with a surname that sounds German, who was under temporary leave from May 2 to May 10 for psychiatric reasons (also a handwritten comment).
Peter era chefe de cozinha, e o facto de ter trabalhado até 2 de maio no Tapas bar, era motivo para ter sido entrevistado pela pj, mas parece que não foi. E era alemão, pois há outro funcionário(J.Young) que o refere (assim como o facto de ter saído inesperadamente) e o descreve fisicamente.
DeletePsychiatric reasons for eight days? Why did an employer and one would think doctor put those words in print? Psychiatric reasons?
DeleteSurely more sensitive wording would have been used, something like nervous debility in an English sense according to Sue who is a working medic.
I'll probably ask others when the opportunity presents itself, but psychiatric reasons, isn't that a tad nebulous or at least potentially harmful to someone in an employee/employer situation?
That's non-specific and uses a word which could be potentially alarming to an employer and possibly detrimental to the employee.
Who is Peter K with a surname that sounds German? Is he even real? You never know with that lot and their soap opera style fabrications. Gosh, it's like watching ye olde English children's TV shows all over again.
They were fictional with an undercurrent of truth, in fact, pretty much the same template as this one.
The only missing ingredient being Madeleine, who ironically, and one could say predictably, was never missing at all.
And neither was Richard III.
The handwritten comment in the Files says Peter Kay “Cozinheiro “Tapas” (Baixa Psiq. Desde 02 a 10 Mai 07)”
DeleteIf we are to believe in that statement – we now know that the Ocean Club was very economical with the truth regarding Maddie – then Peter K was not present when the little girl disappeared.
However, he was on duty up to May 1 which means he should have been questioned, as he could have seen something that would turn to be of interest in the preceding days.
There is no statement from Peter K on the Files-
John Young, outside the roster list who refers to Peter K as far as we know (our translation):
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_YOUNG.htm
“Questioned, the deponent refers that he has no knowledge of any type of situation which he believes to be suspicious that may be directly or indirectly related to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
As to the normal functioning of the area where he works, he only remembers as a fact out of the normal routine, that the Kitchen Chef from the Tapas, a German individual named Peter, abandoned his functions about a week before the occurrence of the facts, however characterizing that this person's behaviour was that of a perfectly normal person. He further adds that this person's build is as follows: thin, Caucasian, height of about 1,77m with full, light brown/grey and to the full hair.”
We translated “Baixa Psiquiátrica” above as a “temporary leave for psychiatric reasons” when we it’s best translated as “psychiatric sick leave”.
This sick leave is very easy to obtain in Portugal. It is not needed to be signed by a psychiatrist or a psychologist, being enough the signature of a GP.
All one has to do is to go to a local GP, state that one is not feeling well, that one cannot cope with the work pressure at that moment and that one needs urgently to have a rest, that one gets such a sick leave.
In terms of salary, the Social Security will pay that individual the salary during the period of the sick leave and the employer is exempt from paying the salary and taxes for that period. Please see para “2. Salary that is a salary and a half” of our post “Tourism diet”.
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/04/tourism-diet.html
Obviously, this facilitates fraudulent sick leaves, which unless there is a denunciation the system is unable to detect. If there is an agreement between the worker and the employer, then these fraudulent sick leaves simply go undetected. All is needed is to head to the nearest health facility, whine a bit and come back with a signed paper validating it.
A fraudulent psychiatric sick leave would be a very easy go-to mechanism to “avoid” the presence of someone during both when occurrences happened and the period to be questioned by the police who would refuse to go along in telling lies that others had no problems in telling.
Isn’t it fascinating that on May 8, a Mill worker knows about a psychiatric sick leave from someone who works at Tapas? Did all Ocean Club workers follow each other’s presence at work even though the Ocean Club has a footprint in so many locations all over Praia da Luz?
Interesting, isn’t it?
Baixas de 8 dias serão obviamente fraudulentas em PT e no resto do mundo( e nunca teria o nome de "baixa", se tanto "ausente por.."), e é logo motivo para desconfiar. Vamos acreditar que a pj não fechou os olhos a isso :) e o interrogatório ao Peter está na parte do processo privado.
DeleteMas são tantos outros que por milagre escaparam ao interrogatório policial por estarem ausentes.. Que conveniente! Na minha opinião qualquer coisa se passou muito provavelmente no dia 1 ou 2 de Maio. Muito provavelmente esse acontecimento veio a culminar com a morte de MM no dia 3. Há pessoas que sabem e foram estrategicamente afastadas, não vou dizer nomes, mas basta uma pesquisa. Talvez seja através deste Peter que surge o CB nesta história toda.
It was an inside job, Murat said so. And, everyone was acting, Kate tried to make that as clear as possible under the circumstances.
DeleteShe didn't have to, but my belief is that shame and the results of what is considered to be a decent upbringing outweighed her ability to follow a script written by a bunch of pretentious and wet behind the ears, pure and never learned a thing from history - skalls.
Toss it all out the window and believe nothing until you KNOW it's the truth. It's also worth remembering that good fiction is meant to sound believable, and if you can mix it up with real life and call it the news...even better.
The toe-rags have been faking it for decades, and oh, what's the point..? They've all lied, all of them.
Especially the copper a day underachievers at Leicester and their mates from hither and thither. (What happened to your law books, BTW?)
Let us pray.
From Welland to Rio to Kingston to Atherton to Liverpool to Luz, and with an obligatory meet-and-greet (for 5 seconds) with the pope. Let us pray again... and, it must be said...hallelujah!
Beyond that, Madeleine prefers blue. Seriously, if being ridiculous is what they insist on being then the Madeleine Mirror is reflecting their faces only.
Which reminds one, someone who used to wear a uniform, is incredibly wimpy and has lied on camera about Madeleine is losing concentration.
And we all know what that leads to, don't we?
ACCIDENTS.
Cause and effect is real, be careful how you act.
And to Textusa and team members, your persistence and unyielding determination is astounding.
Thank you.:{)
Anonymous 14 Jan 2021, 14:51:00,
DeleteIf by “na parte do processo privado” you mean the infamous and often mentioned “Unpublished PJ Files”, we do not believe they exist:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2012/01/debunking-urban-myths-unpublished-pj.html
We will not debate this.
We have said that there we believe that there is unpublished material – an example we gave was what Mrs Fenn said on the night of May 3 or on May 4 – which the PJ considered to NOT HAVE IMPORTANCE to be presented for decision from the higher echelon, and so was not included in the files.
Shall we say that it’s the Recycle Bin of the process that hasn’t been emptied out yet.
Taking into account that we have a lot of meaningless statements from the OC staff we assume that Peter K was not questioned. However, we do not discard that his statement may be in the said bin. If it is, then it’s because he had nothing to say the PJ considered relevant and not because he said anything sensitive/secretive.
For any document to be retrieved from that bin and to be included in the ongoing investigation there has to be a RELEVANT reason, which must be given and put in the process so that the decider can fully understand why it wasn’t included in the initial process and now it has become relevant.
Eu estava a ser ironica e também não acredito que Peter K. tenha sido interrogado. Foi descartado, como tantos outros, uns que apenas foram ouvidos informalmente, outros nem isso. Os funcionários dos desportos aquáticos não foram ouvidos porquê? São funcionários e deveriam ser TODOS interrogados, independentemente se são considerados relevantes.
DeleteContinuo a achar que Peter K. é uma peça imortante neste puzzle. Brueckner não surge do nada. Havia relação entre eles, muito, mas mesmo muito provavelmente.
If people really are interested in understanding the false multiple layers of the Ocean Club madness then they should discover who Mrs. Fenn's rust coloured patio umbrella really belonged to.
DeleteHer favourite fish restaurant and regular Praia da Luz hairdresser was also a pile of hooey. It was pretty much in keeping with the most deplorable kinds of mockery television at the time though.
Shows as sickeningly patronising as My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. Virtually a total marketing ripoff of the Greek titled movie, perhaps not the greatest movie ever made, but at least it was filmed in a genuine Greek area.
[Jez Wilkins and Jon Corner's former business dealings? Discuss].
Remember when everybody laughed and said you were as good as crazy for saying how many individuals were involved in the abduction hoax and the subsequent, seemingly sealed in blood, cover-up?
They were wrong. And your logical untangling of the bogus story line was absolutely correct.
Cooks, tennis instructors, unqualified non lifesaving nannies taking babies out on boats in Baltic weather conditions in the deep dark Atlantic.
Who the heck wrote that? Someone who never went further than their own backdoor in childhood - I'm guessing.
Run, Forrest. Run.
Jump, Kate. Jump.
How high?
PITIFUL.
Textusa, as much as folk love to focus on Kate and Gerry, [big bad connected to the most supreme power, Kate and Gerry McCann].
ReplyDeleteIt can now be proved that along with Control Risks Group and others who cannot be mentioned for legal reasons [at this time], that at least two Sky News employees were also present on the ground one week prior to going live with their pension pots.
"That Textusa is so insane that s/he's involved everybody in the abduction hoax. Therefore, it can't be true."
It takes all sorts. They should, however, come clean.
Felicidades, Textusa. Cheers!
Twitter seems to be hellbent today on claiming who the independent witnesses were. As if they'd know, pur-lease - with a cherry on top. They become more clueless as each day passes.
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, please note, they are all on Madeleine's side and want justice for her. Interpretations of meanings differ immensely, but never mind, they're all seeking justice for Maddie - on TWITTER.
Where else?
That's bound to work.
Why do so many people, especially on Twitter lately, insist on asking questions or claiming that Madeleine was disposed of?
ReplyDeleteThey're obsessed with that word, especially Madam McTrump. Did Gerry McCann 'dispose' of Madeleine's body, blah blah blah?
No, research (with all due respect), flunkies, do some. He did not dispose of Madeleine, period.
In the truest most literal sense of the word, Madeleine was not disposed of. She died, for sure she passed away, but she WAS NOT DISPOSED OF.
Go to ground zero, for even Occam's cat would have started the filter and discard process at the beginning.
The Ocean Club disposal unit would have been full of superfluous junk.
All of the above is in my opinion only.
"Madeleine is out there." Said many who allegedly adored science fiction and all things where no data is required.
ReplyDeleteThink Hitchcock, thing Spielberg, think Tarantino, think Film Noire, in fact, think of it all, for there are no limits to the imagination or lack of light at the end of Gerry's esoteric vision of a....TUNNEL, it had to be.
But of course, only a tunnel with the otherworldly bright white light would do.
Anyhow, I didn't mean to digress or take liberties, Textusa. It's just a little something maybe worth remembering, that Madeleine IS 'out there'.
She's not, but that's besides the point. The McCann couple are hooked in big time, and the press and MSM in general are still playing pass the hot potato swag bag around the realms of a dying trade, and....KERCHING!!! For now.
But, who will choke first?
Have a great day and stay well, stalwarts.
As a seemingly cunning back-up plan to Brueckner being the perpetrator of an abduction, Martin Ney is back in the picture. Ney is serving a life sentence in Germany for 3 child murders and 40 sexual assaults. He was named as a suspect by the McCanns’ private investigators in 2011; presumably the questionable Metodo 3, who were still employed by them in 2011.
ReplyDeleteNey was extradited to France on January 22nd , for questioning over the murder of 10 year old Jonathan Coulom in 2004. The French authorities have been given 8 months to carry out the investigation. The TV station RTL claimed Ney would also be interviewed by Scotland Yard.
According to the Star on January 24th, Ney was quizzed earlier by the police after his resemblance to the sketch of a prowler outside the McCann apartment. Ney is reported to have visited Portugal at some point in the 1990s and early 2000s, but in 2007, he was living in Hamburg, where he was employed as a youth worker with Evangelischen Jugendhilfe Friedenshort. Presumably, they have records of his work with them in May 2007. As in the case of Brueckner, Ney is alleged to have made a confession to a cellmate.
The UK police have not requested the extradition of Brueckner to the UK for questioning and may have missed any opportunity to do so, as the UK is no longer a member of the EU. As far as we know, he still hasn’t been questioned by the German authorities.
According to the Mirror, the German and Portuguese investigators will carry out new interviews in the Algarve and a summit of German, Portuguese and British detectives will take place in Lisbon in the spring. Witnesses have been put on standby.
This is where it starts to get more interesting.
According to an article written in 2019, by Martin Fricker, Ney was in Portugal at the time of M’s disappearance and a former resort worker claimed they saw Ney in Praia da Luz before Maddie disappeared, staring intently at them as they drank in an Algarve bar. (“them” seems to be a way of avoiding saying whether this person is male or female, rather than meaning more than one person) This person claimed to recognise Ney after seeing his photo in the Sun newspaper. Ney was there “for a fact”.
The ex -Mark Warner employee saw Ney shortly after arriving in PdL in April 2007 and at the Baptista supermarket, saying “I have a good memory for faces”. The witness was later moved to another resort in Greece. The report concludes with the fact that Scotland Yard had spoken to their German counterparts several years ago and ruled out the involvement of Ney as he was only interested in young boys.
From this report, it can be deduced that the witness was a nanny, as some nanny staff were reportedly moved to Greece. This is confirmed by another article by Fricker and co., written on June 6th 2020, when he reports that a” Resort nanny quizzed by the police over a new suspect, 5 days after M disappeared”.
Here, the suspect is Brueckner, not Ney.
“A nanny who looked after M was shown a picture of a German paedophile, she was told his name on May 8th 2007 at the McCanns’ holiday apartment… She was shown an identikit on the day after they took my statement”. Assuming this is the order of events - May 6th, nanny makes her statement (where there is no reference to photos or identikits, as with all the nannies) May 7 nanny is shown an identikit, May 8th, nanny is told his name, at the apartment.
If this is the order of events, the nanny is likely to be Cat Baker, who made her statement on May 6th, 2007, translated by Robert Murat. However, in her rogatory interview in 2008, no mention is made of names or identikits and she says she never noticed anyone suspicious. She does confirm that she had been in Portugal since March 21st 2007, which may be consistent with the unnamed ex Mark warner employee who had seen Ney shortly after arriving in PdL, in April 2007. Depending on whether she means she saw him in April, shortly after SHE had arrived in PdL (on March 21st).
(Cont)
March 21st? Or May 21st in accordance with Brunt and co.'s original 'they've been here for two weeks' line? If you're going to mix it up, numbers are more difficult to remember than words, for most people that I've encountered, that is. The official arrival date was, or at least became the 28th, but is that true? Is any of it true? With the exception of Madeleine's departure, of course. Are there any genuinely authentic summer season 2007 employees who will attest officially to the OC nannies working at a MW resort in Greece? My money is on NO.
DeleteI meant the 21st of April, as oppose to May. They officially arrived on the 28th of April, it's totally my mistake and I meant the 21st of April which is the actual timeline referred to by Brunt and ostensible acolytes.
DeleteApologies for the inaccuracy, getting the date wrong by one whole month is not a good thing, we've had enough of that already.
Thanks a lot and happy hunting.
You did say numbers are more difficult to remember.
DeleteThank you for the reminder, I'll slap the back of my own hand now. Brain damage and far worse, as a direct result of abhorrent lies in kangaroo courts tends to have that effect on some people. Their fault, Gamble, Brunt and flock, not mine.
DeleteYour laconic sarcasm is more enlightening than the retrofitted skylights in the builder beige eyesore.
Blows kisses xxx
(Cont.)
ReplyDeleteCat Baker had visited the McCanns at their home in November 2007, before her rogatory interview. If she was the nanny concerned, did she mention the identikit and name to them?
Could Cat Baker also be the anonymous Mark Warner employee who we deduced to have been a nanny and who claimed to have seen Ney in Praia da Luz, in the Baptista supermarket?
Or were there 2 nannies who independently claim to have seen Ney and Brueckner respectively? Her/ their identities are known to Fricker, so he may be able to assist regarding any witnesses who are on standby to be interviewed.
It would be remarkable if both of these notorious individuals, Ney and Brueckner had been in the area at the same time, along with the deceased Euclides Monteiro, whose phone signal was also said to have placed him in the same area that night.
Quite why someone from the ECHR should talk to sun who knows but hey oh!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13975731/madeleine-mccann-parents-silence-ex-cop-setback/
We find it extremely difficult to believe an ECHR spokesman has discussed the progress of a case with the press.
DeleteIts own website has a question and answer information sheet for applicants:
“How can I obtain information on a case?”
“The court cannot answer all the requests it receives for information about the progress of cases pending before it.”
Applicants can go online for cases pending and check the present state of proceedings in the case, as described in the article.
Before the case is communicated to the state of Portugal, it has to be ruled as admissable.
The article has put words into the mouth of the “spokesman” as the spokesman here is declaring that the first stage of being ruled admissible has already taken place and the next stage is communicating to the state but the article then goes on to describe the correct process and the current state of the application, which shows ADMISSIBILITY HAS NOT YET BEEN DECIDED.
All that is shown on the present application is that if has met the requirements on the application form for it to be considered by the ECHR.
So why are we being fed false information about a decision by spring?
And why would be (are, according to the rag) the McCanns able to obtain information that isn’t available other applicants?
Lastly, we find it fascinating and deeply troubling that even though the media is witnessing the damage society – and itself as well – as suffered as result of the continued perseverance in pushing obvious lies – or the true peddling of fake news – the British tabloids insist on the same formula.
Another thing, as the ECHR deals with over 45 thousand cases per year on average and deals with cases according to urgency rather than according to the date of applications, it seems to us unlikely that a non-urgent case submitted in 2017 would be dealt with by spring 2021.
DeleteUnpublished Anonymous at 9 Feb 2021, 15:14:00
ReplyDeleteThe Smith family was the one contacting the authorities upon seeing on TV the image of Gerry McCann walking down the stairs of the plane on their return to England. That image apparently jolted the memory of the family regarding the man they saw with a girl on his arms in the Rua da Escola Primária on the night of May 3.
Martin Smith contacted DC John Hughes of Leicester Police on 20 September 2007.
Here is the link which should answer the questions you asked.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
Pages 4134-4139 name Detective Liam Hogan from Drogheda. Dated 30th January 2008. Hogan described Smith as a genuine person who was known locally.
From our own knowledge of Mr Smith’s address in Drogheda, he was living there before 2007 as there is a media article about his family.
We are not giving a link for this as it gives family details about a daughter who had no involvement in this case.
The details in your comment were the reason we decided not to publish your comment. Hope you understand.
Another Irish officer based in Madrid is Bernard Gaffney who corresponds with Joao Carlos from PJ.
“PLEASE DO NOT PUBLISH” fully identified reader at at 12 Feb 2021, 15:49:00,
ReplyDeleteApologies for such a late reply.
From our reading, it isn’t normal procedure to keep applicants informed of the process of any decisions before a judgement is made.
The McCann/Healy application was received by the ECHR in July 2017 and acknowledged on August 8 2017.
No further action has been recorded on the site since this date.
Not disputing your information but can’t understand the discrepancy with the guidelines in this link:
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Your_Application_ENG.pdf
We went on ECHR site this morning.
ReplyDeleteMcCann Healy case was communicated to the State of Portugal on 14/1/2021.
Importance level 3. ECHR level 3 case: “Low importance- judgements, decisions and advisory opinions of little legal interest... simply applying existing case-law, friendly settlements and strike outs...”
Article 6 6-2 - Right to a fair trial
Article 8 8-1 – Right to respect for private and family life.
Seems the McCanns have made their case stick at the ECHR.
As far as we know, this means Portugal are asked to respond in some way but not to dispute the court findings.
We think these may only be published when Portugal has responded, as the next step could be a friendly settlement or if not, a publication of the judgement on the ECHR website.
So, it seems isn’t about the urgency of a case but whether it would mean certain legal issues were involved. They may be of low legal significance in that it applies existing legislation/law rather than a challenge to the legislation.
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Applicants_communication_non_contentious_ENG.pdf
ReplyDeleteAfter a case has been communicated to the state and the possibility of friendly settlement.
State can respond and it seems as if the response can have some influence as to how the application proceeds.
As a written document will eventually be available, we’ll eventually find out.
Initially, friendly settlement procedure is confidential, but I don’t know whether that means it won’t appear on ECHR website, or whether the details won’t be outlined but the fact of a FS being reached would be.
Maybe some readers may be able to offer more expert knowledge?
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Applicants_communication_contentious_ENG.pdf
ReplyDeleteIf no friendly settlement, this is next stage.
This suggests that although the State can respond, it doesn’t alter any judgements already made by the ECHR.
It may also take some time for a final statement to be made on ECHR website, given the 12 week periods for parties to respond.
In the communicated case to the State of Portugal, 2 questions were posed to the parties.
ReplyDeleteArticle 6 6-2 - Right to a fair trial-
Article 8 8-1 – Right to respect for private and family life.
We’ll begin to address the second question, regarding Article 6 6-2 - Right to a fair trial: “Has the presumption of innocence guaranteed by Article 6-2 of the Convention been respected in the present case having regard to the reasoning contained in the decisions handed down on 31 January and 21 March by the Supreme Court (see, Allen v. The United Kingdom no 25424/09- 94 ECHR 2013)?”
The case referred to was brought by a woman who served 3 years imprisonment for the manslaughter of her baby son. She did not appeal her sentence at the time.
Following her release, certain facts (regarding shaken baby syndrome) came to light which rendered her original conviction unsafe but no re-trial was ordered. Her original conviction was quashed.
She took her case for miscarriage of justice through the U.K. courts, with a claim for compensation but was unsuccessful.
Her case in the ECHR was heard by a panel of judges of the Grand Chamber.
The issue of presumption of innocence was considered by the Grand Chamber as part of their deliberations.
The case was communicated to the UK, who contested the application.
The ECHR did not find in her favour.
The case referred to is in no way similar in its details to the case brought by McCann/Healy, but the Portuguese state is being asked to respond to the reasoning contained in the Allen case with regard to the presumption of innocence guaranteed by Article 6-2 of the Convention as it applies to this case.
As we are not qualified to interpret a legal document, we won’t attempt to summarise the reasoning in this lengthy and densely argued case of Allen and suggest readers read it for themselves and check if our summary adequately reflects the very basic facts of the case.
However, it does show that the communication of the case to Portugal does not guarantee that the McCann/ Healy case will prevail in its arguments.
We will look at question 1 about the applicants’ rights to respect for their private life, in relation to GA’s book and documentary, at a later date, as a number of previous cases are quoted which will take some time to read.
Portugal is asked if their domestic courts adequately balanced respect to private life of the parties and the rights of their opponents to freedom of expression.
Questions to the parties 1
ReplyDelete“Was there an infringement of the applicants’ right to respect for their private life, within the meaning of Article 8-1 of the Convention ( see, Axel Springer AG v. Germany no 39954/08, section 83 7 February 2012; and Larranaga Arando and Others v. Spain (dec) (Nos.73911/16, 233/17, 3086 and 5515/17 section 42, 25 June 2019) with regard in particular to the allegations made by GA in the disputed book and documentary? In particular, did the respondent State comply with its positive obligations aimed at guaranteeing the applicants the right to respect for their “private life” within the meaning of Article 8 of the Convention?”
In addition, in their decisions, did the domestic courts carry out an adequate balance, in accordance with the criteria established by the Court’s case-law, between the the applicants’ right to respect for their private life and the right of the parties? opponents of freedom of expression ( see Von Hannover ( no 2) nos 40660/08 and 60641/08 sections 108-113 ECHR 2012 Axel Springer AG, cited above sections 89-95, and Bedat v. Switzerland no 56925/08 sections 52-54, ECHR 2016)?”
We will comment later on the first case we give a link to, LA and Others v Spain, as this is the shortest case to read. Others to follow.
https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&id=003-6464463-8514402&filename=Decisions%20in%20Larra%C3%B1aga%20Arando%20and%20Others%20and%20other%20applications%20v.%20Spain%20-%20complaints%20about%20lack%20of%20compensation%20for%20victims%20of%20terrorism%20.pdf
Having read the ECHR press release on the case against the State of Spain, it’s not clear to us why this case is quoted in the Questions to the Parties 1, as the press release relates to the presumption of innocence under Article 6 section 2, whereas the questions relate to applicants respect for private life Article 8 section 1 of the Convention.
ReplyDeleteReading the case in full from the Polish translation of the ECHR ruling doesn’t clarify anything for us.
The wording which could be significant to the ref to Amaral is the applicants’ argument that exclusion (from compensation) “could only be based on a criminal conviction and not on mere suspicions in police reports.”
The police reports “which indicated that the applicants’ relatives had been members of the ETA terrorist organisation. These reports referred to different sources (statements made by other ETA members, press articles and publications related to ETA).”
As already stated, we are not legally qualified to interpret these documents, so this is only an observation.
Reflections on another case quoted by ECHR, the Bedat case.
ReplyDeletehttps://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/cases/bedat-v-switzerland/
The relevance of this case to GA’s book and video is more obvious.
There were 2 dissenting judges at the final hearing.
The boxes below the written piece are worth opening for further information
The case covers what is confidential information in court proceedings and how much can be published legitimately.
Amaral’s situation did not involve court proceedings in progress, so seemingly, not directly comparable, although the balance of underlying principles may be.
https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/cases/von-hannover-v-germany-no-2/
ReplyDeleteTh Von Hannover case concerns publication in the press of photographs of the royal family of Monaco and sets out the criteria to be followed when balancing the right to privacy - Article 8 against the right to freedom of expression Article 10, which is exactly what the Lisbon trial was only about.
Although the McCann/Healy case does not relate to photographs as far as we are aware, the first 4 criteria can be applied in the case against the State of Portugal.
https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/cases/axel-springer-ag-v-germany/
ReplyDeleteIn the case of Axel Springer, parent company of German newspaper Bild, the ECHR found in favour of Axel Springer by a majority.
The case concerned popular actor X, who was reported in an article as having taken cocaine.
The court balanced freedom of expression and privacy and established 5 criteria in their judgement.
The criteria included how well known the person is, the prior conduct of the person concerned and the content, form and consequences of publication.
If readers look at the Axel Springer case on the ECHR website. paras 89-95, referred to in the Mccann/Healy communicated case of 14/1/2021, discussion of the criteria is covered in detail.
DeleteWe would like to remind our readers that the Portuguese Supreme Court referred to many examples of ECHR case law in its judgement, including the case of Allen v UK 2013. See pages 12 and 68 of the SCJ judgement.
ReplyDeleteThe PSC did not refer to the cases of Axel Springer and Von Hannover 2012, or Bedat 2016.
The case of Larranaga 2019 was after the PSC in 2017.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14150992/christian-b-cleared-abducting-german-maddie/amp/
ReplyDeleteBrueckner ruled out of the Inga case.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9295981/amp/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-ruled-probe-missing-German-Maddie.html
DeleteAnd he hasn't been questioned about Maddie. He's only made world headlines as being Maddie's prime suspect 266 days ago...
Are you still paying reasonably close attention to Dame Dick and cohorts? Substantial improvement and closer scrutiny has still gone largely unaddressed. For crying out loud, the poor woman is a bag of nerves in front of their reliable friends in the British media.
ReplyDeleteWhy are their 'operations', imagery, constructs and penchant for numbers so consistently inconsistent? Just kidding!
Kindly remain distracted, and if you utter a word you're a deranged sicko. Got it? Have you really got it? Have you really, really, really, got it? Good. Now, stfu.
Stay well, Textusa and sisters, and have a nice, sun-filled afternoon X
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Applicants_communication_ENG.pdf
ReplyDeleteThis is the information to applicants which will have been sent to the McCanns, as the first 2 paras now appear on their application on the ECHR website.
Note the information about another Contracting State, which suggests the UK will be invited to take part in the proceedings. Unless anyone knows of a reason why this section would not apply:
“9. Intervention of another Contracting State: If you are a national of a Contracting State other thanthe respondent State, the Government of that State will be invited to take part in the proceedings(see Article 36 § 1 and Rule 44). You will be informed of that Government’s response.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-want-cash-23755484.amp
ReplyDeleteMore funding. Funding, meaning basically salaries.
The prosecution, or not, of CB now lies with the German authorities, not the UK.
At least this shows that Operation Grange have put all their eggs in the one basket of CB being the object of their investigation.
As they were responsible for setting Germany off in pursuit of Brueckner, after the interview of the criminal Helge Busching in the Athens hotel, by OG detective Mark and colleague, they can share the blame with Germany when this goes nowhere.
We’re still hoping it will result in the prosecution of Brueckner, to open the facts of the Maddie case to the fresh air of re-investigation.
https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2017/03/on-mccanns-request-for-annulment-of.html
ReplyDeleteThis blog article from 2017 deals with the right of presumption of innocence; one of the issues now before the ECHR, the other being respect for private life.
The jurist commenting here clarifies the contradictions and confusion contained in the Archiving Despatch, between Articles 277-1 and 277-2 of the Code of Criminal Procedure and the reliance of the McCanns on 277-1.
They claim under 277-1 they were found not to be those who committed the crime and were therefore exonerated, rather than 277-2, which is based on insufficiency of evidence, which the Supreme Court says does not equate to a declaration of innocence.
The opinion of the jurist is that the McCanns’ application for annulment of the SCJ ruling was more than a dilatory strategy and was to enable them to have an argument to proceed with a complaint to the ECHR.
The application for annulment was unsuccessful, as the jurist predicted.
A clarification regarding the ECHR and Questions to the parties 1 and 2.
ReplyDeleteThe questions referring to cases already adjudicated on by the ECHR are questions posed by the ECHR to both parties; the McCanns and the State of Portugal.
Allen v the UK 2013 was referenced by the Portuguese Supreme Court, so it may be that the McCanns did not use it to support their application and are now being requested to do so.
We know the other cases were not referenced by the PSCJ but the cases referenced in the McCann application are unknown.
I wonder if you haven't touched upon something relatively unknown in these cases, the PSC referenced a good handful of previously adjudicated cases by the ECHR in their upholding the appeal by Amaral, were the McCann's then meant to use the same ECHR judgements to show the interpretation of them by the SC wrong and have now been asked to clarify.
DeleteAnon,
DeleteThis case, one of several referenced by the ECHR in its questions to the parties, seems, from our perspective of laypersons, to be the only one which may support the McCanns’ application in some, but not all respects; in that the ECHR found in favour of the State of Switzerland and against the applicant’s case for freedom of expression.
As we’ve already said, this case involved a case in the court process, whereas the McCanns were never brought before a criminal court.
It also involves information obtained illicitly (rather than illegally), whereas the information used by Amaral was already in the public domain.
This paper outlines the controversial nature of the case and its implications.
https://strasbourgobservers.com/2016/04/11/the-grand-chamber-strikes-again-by-finding-no-violation-in-freedom-of-expression-case-bedat-v-switzerland/amp/
Its the brit press, but they were right about some movement earlier last month.
Deletehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14472108/madeleine-mccann-parents-friendly-settlement/
Anon,
DeleteWe think a friendly settlement suggestion is the first part of the normal process.
However, we think that if Portugal agree, they will be admitting some or all of Mc claims have some substance.
It remains to be seen if this happens.
Portugal may not agree.
Happy Heavenly Birthday Debbie Lee Perry.
ReplyDeleteMuch, much missed, always, always present.
http://ehrac.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Guide-to-Friendly-Settlements-and-Unilateral-Declarations_August-2018.pdf
ReplyDeleteFS document of ECHR.
https://www.echr.am/en/functions/representation/friendly-settlements.html
ReplyDeleteIt seems as if it’s a routine suggestion to reduce the backlog of cases, in applications where existing case law can be applied.
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Applicants_communication_non_contentious_ENG.pdf
ReplyDeleteWe think this is the most relevant document.
This is the stage the McCann case has reached - the non-contentious stage.
It is likely the Portuguese State has responded within the 12-week period, to the case law examples referenced by the ECHR in January.
Under Friendly Settlements para 2, a declaration can be sent to the parties.
Alternatively, no declaration is sent and both parties have 12 weeks to indicate their position regarding a FS.
The contentious phase only begins if the parties cannot reach agreement.
IF a declaration has been sent, the terms of the declaration are set by the ECHR, which suggests to us that the court would have made its position on the application clear to both sides.
Both sides then have 12 weeks to respond.
FS procedures are being increasingly used by the ECHR to deal with the backlog of cases and are used when cases involve well established case law.
Some seem not to understand the ECHR as they are stating the court wouldn’t propose friendly settlements, but then again, these people in the past had no qualms whatsoever to state absurdities as facts of the case.
https://drkarsai.hu/en/friendly-settlement-procedure/
ReplyDeleteThis is first of 2 articles which shows the issues the McCanns would have to consider IF they have been presented with a Friendly Settlement declaration by the ECHR.
If the court has proposed a concrete compensation amount and the State acknowledges human rights’ violations and undertakes to pay the compensation, the applicant accepting the proposed sum undertakes NOT to initiate another compensation procedure for the injustice suffered, since it has been remedied.
What would be the implications of that undertaking for the applicants?
https://strasbourgobservers.com/2019/11/14/strasbourg-courts-new-non-contentious-phase-a-tax-on-lawlessness/
ReplyDeleteThe law blog considers the negative aspects of FS compared to procedures prior to 2018. The McCanns made their application in 2017.
Prior to 2018, the ECHR simply informed the parties of the possibility of concluding with a FS and only put forward specific proposals in a limited category of cases.
Cases seen so far under the new procedures by the writer Jessica Gavron merely consisted of ex -gratia payments with no acknowledgment by the State of any violations.
The writer considers that an offer of a FS from the court to be an “inescapable signal sent to the applicant is that the court considers the case not to warrant further consideration; that the payment is not required to be in recognition of any violations and that no non- monetary provisions, such as undertakings to investigate, are required”
The case could be struck out if the applicants decline a FS.
Both situations referred to, with big IFs, suggest the McCanns, IF they are offered a FS, have to consider the implications of not being able to pursue any further claims and the possibility of the State not being required to acknowledge any violations have occurred.
It may be that their case will move from the compulsory (as stated here) non- contentious stage to the contentious stage, if both parties fail to agree to a FS.
Personally, I can't see a FS being made by either party, not when both sides believe they are 100% correct and want to prove the other side wrong.
DeleteThey'll try to make Senior Amaral look like a fool first and then attempt to do the same thing last as well, in my view of course.
One of the major problems, it seems, is that neither side can actually prove what they have claimed, abduction or death in the apartment.
There's nothing solid enough either way, not unless someone decides they've had enough, uses their brain and opens their mouth.
Sonia Poulton has started her own Fighting Fund, I thought you might like to know. Apparently she's having problems with several people, Carter-Ruck and the McCanns are mentioned in her latest online piece, it's worth a read - I think, maybe? Perhaps?
ReplyDeleteWhether you agree with her spurious facts approach or not, it's interesting to stay somewhat abreast of the ongoing drama and minutiae thereof.
She never did reveal the shocking information which we were all not going to believe about who she discovered was behind keeping the lost in space narrative alive, did she?
How did she gain vital personal data of poor Miss Leyland's address prior to the village being common knowledge, it wasn't anywhere online until Brunt's bad acting stunt was completed on amateur dramatics day.
I did wonder about that at the time and then shortly dismissed it once I realised the woman was short on facts and if I may say so, arrogantly stubborn and with an unhealthy unwillingness to listen - to boot.
Frankly, I think there's a touch of loop the loop amongst too many of the major wannabe gangsta players on all sides of the buried coin. Three sheets and all that lovely karmic jazz, maybe?
Rude, ill-mannered, parochial and severely, that word again, "limited" at least in the old sifting and filtering department, me thinks.
Shedloads of dough have been made out of this, unless someone loses the ego, every penny will be paid back tenfold after someone dies IMO, poor kids, the sins of the fathers weigh heavily for generations to come.
Oliver Cromwell will look like a street corner fish hawker when all this is done, GUARUNTEED. It's their own fault for not growing an inch. They've not all been investigated yet, TV personalities et al, the challenge is far too easy and must be strategically nurtured, fully embracing the last drop of truth.
Missing People, largely funded by the British taxpayer nowadays, were on their knees in 06, go figure? And then some. Kate and Gerry, Madeleine, blah blah blah - irrelevant.
Thank you for everything.
Miss May S. March (long-time observer and supporter).
To read her side on the issue:
Deletehttps://www.soniapoulton.co.uk/fighting-fund
Just checking out the details as I’m not familiar with what’s been going on, but subject to corrections from anyone who does, this is my understanding.
DeleteJohn M, the former MP, has taken court action against SP for falsely accusing him of child abuse.
Darren L has also taken court action for similar allegations against him, which is at the pre-hearing stage. I also understand certain allegations made against him resulted in him being arrested but not subsequently charged. as a result of those allegations and that
SP had to disclose the names of others involved with her in the case of Darren L.
As far as I’m aware, John M has an unblemished record and Darren L has a previous conviction unrelated to child abuse, as reported in the press.
https://mobile.twitter.com/johnhemming4mp/status/1375483950089506819
DeleteThis is John Hemmings response to Sonia Poulton.
I have read her side. Who is she? And why is she selling fiction as fact? She knows absolutely zero about what happened to Madeleine Beth.
DeleteAnd yes, she's very subjectively judgemental, is beyond clueless in this affair, doesn't actually care a damn in terms of what she's meddling in and is as out of her depth in sorting the wheat from the proverbial as is the boastful American kindergarten detective.
They are more of a superfluous irritation than anything. She believes any old fool before she'll take the time to put the necessary work in, starting by learning how to conduct a successful investigation.
I'll listen to her, if she listens to fact, truth and reason. And apologises for her childish nasty words, all saved. Otherwise - no, not interested. If I believed she was a genuine truth-seeker and exercised a modicum of humility, she would not find a better supporter and a more effective bodyguard than me :) Modest. Just joking.
I'm probably the least remarkable person you'll find around this greedy circus, but lying is not my bag, that is reserved only for extenuating/have no choice in the matter - circumstances. Hello Gerry and Kate.
She used a misogynistic, wrong-footed, egomaniacal rage machine as a dependable source for her TRUTH DOC, outrageous incompetence at best.
They are a bad mix, those ignorant people on Twitter and such, those who obstinately refuse to see, and then they label others with their contemptuous words and haughty imperious certainty.
When, in the cold light of day, in the actual real world, they are in fact, quite easy to manipulate.
Two well-known McCann-centred, alleged related professionals, are a perfect example of this, one day, their words, I'm sorry to say, will make them look incredibly stupid.
Which is ironic really, because they seem to think they are in some kind of secretive selective club that have the inside scoop, when they know virtually nothing at all because they have followed the breadcrumbs laid out for them to find.
And they've swallowed them, hook, line and sinker.
They're still at it, the Madeleine died on Sunday brigade. No she didn't, that is preposterous.
Start at the outset, not anywhere you choose, and on the basis of an image and a cleaner, a cleaner you say? Prove it.
It's not a lucky dip for life's sensationally motivated superstar wannabes, you know! It's not a game where you have the opportunity to show off how "SPECIAL" you are.
Who sent S.P. to Rosalinda Hutton's blog in 2014? Why then? Why such an unremarkable place that attracts very few visitors? Why There? Why then? Why her, 7 years down the line?
Rah rah rah, Rosalinda. Did she keep in regular touch? Doubt it.
And I reiterate, Brenda Leyland's address in Leicester. How did she obtain it? Who told her? And why did she not scout the territory and ask questions whilst she had ample opportunity?
Look, I know nothing, and even I would do that, it's normal inquisitive human behaviour. Wouldn't you think?
Something's not right, sisters. Summat stinks!
Cheers for being fair to her though, she has positive strengths, I'm sure, but the negative ones are outweighing them at the moment it seems.
Another great shame.
As an aside, you'll never guess who is in my house right now, Daniel Craig's neighbour, (interesting info, LOL!) it's a small world - but I'd rather it be an honest and decent one - the entertainment/news industry is severely f****d up and this case exemplifies that unfortunate contemporary absolute - in spades.
Take care and cheers again,
May
The inevitable happened, Mrs. McFadden is onboard with assisting S.P.s' fighting fund. She can't win, mainly because of her own lack of insight and the fact she has refused to, calm down, back down and think about it.
ReplyDeleteShe has accused the wrong people and accused innocent individuals of the most heinous crimes. She has no evidence, she can't prove anything, in fact, the contrary of that is true. She has accepted diabolically untrue data as fact. If no one is ready to do a deal with her they'll throw the book at the meddlesome derailing imposter imo.
Which children has she saved, without mentioning real names and compromising legally protected data? How many? How many crimes has she been instrumental in bringing to their rightful conclusion?
Observe how and whom finances her flights of fancy. It's bound to be the chosen few, the ones who know how to decipher and encrypt data where no one else but them on tinternet can do.
Every single one of them are looking for heroes in all the wrong places, why is that? My guess is that they are hooked on mainstream perceptions of credibility. In short, they will only believe the manufactured version of the truth when it tells them what they want to hear on Sky News.
That should make it real enough for them.
It's a sensible time now for the businessman Rupert Murdoch to start exposing the real crooks, go for it, turn the tables. It's the right thing to do from a cause and effect perspective. It will elevate your soul in preparation for what must come to pass.
ReplyDeleteWith respect.
It's decision time.....
Textusa, do you remember that account from ages ago on Twitter called Dirtypurpleturtles? I cannot for the life of me remember how it was written, I know it's eons back but something just pinged and I'm trying to find out about a video that was on YouTube but taken down after a fair amount of time for some unknown reason.
ReplyDeleteIt's important if you or any of your 5 readers can help out.
Thank you in advance.
Hello again, I found a YouTube account but it's not the same McCann related person on Twitter.
ReplyDeleteThanks anyway.
January 14 was the date the ECHR communicated the case to Portugal, so the 12 week non-contentious stage of ECHR proceedings is now over.
ReplyDeleteIf a friendly settlement is agreed, it is published on the website and it can take 2 weeks before it appears.
If a friendly settlement has not been agreed, a further 12 weeks is given for the contentious stage.
Oh, look at the news that a good friend gave us a heads-up about.
ReplyDeleteIt seems we were spot on about BRC’s character. Not surprised at all. We remind readers that BRC is a prominent member of the gang.
Besties with Jules, Silver, BenT and Zora, among others, a group who has throughout the years derided the blog:
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19228879.niece-branded-despicable-jailed-122-000-fraud/
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13th April
Niece branded 'despicable' as she is jailed for £122,000 fraud
By Graeme Hetherington graemeecho Crime & Court Reporter
A WOMAN who fleeced her elderly aunt out of £122,000 has been branded ‘despicable and wicked’ as she was jailed for two years.
Karen Sanders spent four years draining the cash from the pensioner’s bank accounts to fund her lavish lifestyle.
To cover her tracks, she created a number of forged bank statements to convince her frail aunt that her finances were in good health.
The victim, who is in her 80s, was left penniless after Karen Sanders emptied all of her bank accounts when she was given power of attorney over her aunt's financial affairs.
Judge Recorder Taryn Turner said: “I will say from the outset of the most despicable treachery and wickedness and will send a chill to the heart of many who are encouraged to entrust the running of their financial affairs to their friends, family or supporters, as they themselves face the decline in health and mobility as they grow older.”
Teesside Crown Court heard how Sanders emptied more than £80,000 from the pensioner’s accounts as well as securing loans in her aunt’s name bringing the total deception to £122,000.
The judge added: “This was a sinister, callous and wicked deceit because behind your aunt’s back, over a period of four years, you systematically abused the trust and faith your aunt put in you in order to clean out her bank accounts.
“Taking something in excess of £122,000 but worse still were the steps you took to cover the tracks of your dishonesty. You used a computer to manufacture false bank statements that you could then show to your aunt to convince her that her finances were in a healthy state - when plainly they were not.”
The 63-year-old former NHS worker had pleaded guilty to three charges, including fraud by abuse of position, fraud by false representation and making articles for use in fraud.
The court had heard how the defendant had initially borrowed some of her aunt’s money when she was suffering financial difficulties but failed to repay any of the cash, instead spending it on holidays and designer goods. The judge praised the victim’s bank for reimbursing all of the money that had been drained from the victim’s accounts.
Sanders, formerly of St Johns Garth, Thirsk, was also made the subject of an indefinite restraining order.
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hodgie1 13th April 12:39 pm
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They should throw away the key!
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Homshaw1 13th April 1:01 pm
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Not sure why the bank are responsible. Yes they should throw away the key.
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https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19227676.elderly-aunt-left-devastated-niece-fleeced-122-000-bank-accounts/
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13th April
Elderly aunt left devastated after niece fleeced £122,000 out of her bank accounts
By Graeme Hetherington graemeecho Crime & Court Reporter
A WOMAN who fleeced her frail, elderly aunt out of more than £100,00 has been warned she is facing custody after leaving the vulnerable pensioner virtually penniless.
Karen Sanders emptied the bank accounts of the victim, who is in her 80s, over a four year period after she was made power of attorney over her aunt's financial affairs.
The 63-year-old is accused of using the money to fund her lavish lifestyle, including buying designer clothes, watches and handbags, as she relentlessly drained her aunt of all of her financial assets.
Teesside Crown Court heard how Sanders would do the pensioner's shopping whilst also dipping into the victim's savings for herself.
Ian West, prosecuting, said the defendant was 'more than likely' to be the soul beneficiary of her aunt's estate when she died.
He said: "The defendant, in order to cover her tracks, used a computer to manufacture false bank statements which she would show to her aunt to convince her that her accounts were in a healthy state.
"Whereas when the fraud was discovered in 2019 they had been pretty much stripped bare.
"The defendant, it seems, spent the money on the high life style."
Police seized dozens of expensive designer handbags, shoes, jewellery and sunglasses when her house was searched.
Mr West said the victim described Sanders as her 'one and only niece' and she has 'betrayed me in the most dreadful manner'.
The court heard how the victim was left £2,000 overdrawn when Sanders' offending came to light – leaving the pensioner out of pocket by £122,000.
Mr West said the stolen money was replaced by the victim's bank but the impact of the deception had had a traumatic affect on the pensioner.
Sanders, formerly of St Johns Garth, Thirsk, pleaded guilty to three charges, including fraud by abuse of position, fraud by false representation and making articles for use in fraud.
Kelleigh Lodge, in mitigation, said her client had initially borrowed some of the money to help her out when she hit financial difficulties but accepts she never paid the money back.
She said: "She did plead guilty at the lower court and when interview by police she made admissions and gave a detailed account of her offending."
Sanders will be sentenced this morning.
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DownRoverDown 13th April 12:03 pm
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There are people in this world that one can trust, absolutely. However, they are not necessarily your blood relations! Patterns of spending and withdrawals. The old lady's bank should have questioned the patterns of withdrawals. In reimbursing the lady they have given a nod to this.
stevegg 13th April 12:13 pm
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Disgusted by her actions. She was in a position of trust and exploited it for her own selfish gain. The bank also has a duty to question large and frequent withdrawals, vulnerable customers should be identified to them.
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19227317.pensioners-heartbreak-knocked-six-nieces-122-000-fraud/
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13th April
Pensioner's heartbreak as she is 'knocked for six' by niece's £122,000 fraud
By Graeme Hetherington graemeecho Crime & Court Reporter
A PENSIONER has spoken of her heartbreak after being fleeced of more than £120,000 by her own niece.
The victim, who is in her 80s, was left penniless after Karen Sanders emptied all of her bank accounts when she was given power of attorney over her aunt's financial affairs.
In an emotional victim impact statement, the pensioner said she couldn't believe her own niece had targeted her savings to fund her lavish lifestyle.
"It's knocked me for six," she said. "How could she sit there and tell me the lies which rolled off her tongue because she said all the beautiful things I would comment on had come from eBay.
"I just believed every word that she said.
"I wasn't too well and I'm certainly not too grand now."
At the time of the statement, he frail pensioner didn't know that her bank would refund all of the lost £122,000.
The widow added: "I just can't believe that she could be so deceitful and dishonest while looking me in the eye.
"I don't know how long I live and I don't know what the future is going to hold and I think that is the worst of all – wondering about the house and its contents because I love it.
"It has just knocked me for six – I can't put it any other way."
Sanders, formerly of Thirsk, will be sentenced this morning after pleading guilty to three charges, including fraud by abuse of position, fraud by false representation and making articles for use in fraud.
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Fraud discovered in 2019 yet the freak continued!
DeleteIt's beyond reason!
Anonymous @ 23.27pm Has Shell offered to find it for you? She's one of the five readers and she keeps files of everybody's videos and tweets. She has a file from when she set the police on Elaine and Debbie, and files on KLS and Isabelle McFadden's businesses. Though she doesn't have to keep quiet about KLS any longer. How many people in the gang are honest enough to do a day's work and earn their own money? Are they all on drugs and benefits and committing fraud?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19228879.niece-branded-despicable-jailed-122-000-fraud/
Thank you. Though I have no idea who these people are beyond some of their more comprehensible, yet acerbically spiky tweets. Madeleine and common sense doesn't factor into the equation of screechy scream-y attention-seekers.
DeleteIt's all about me me me, and only....me me me.
Cue the effing toss*r tapes.
Shell's lawyer and police won't help her when they find out what she is involved in. The only way she could afford to choose a lawyer, is if Isabelle paid for it. Though if Isabelle gives Shell the same job as she gave her daughter for a month, Shell could earn thousands of dollars.
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Carry this type of claim on & I will contact my lawyer & police. As for your ''pals?''
I suggest they remember THEY'VE had a police visit themselves - oh and remember it was KAREN who you believed regarding my investigation?
I can reopen it ANY TIME #mccann
In addition to her 2 year prison sentence, BRC was made subject to an indefinite restraining order.
ReplyDeleteIsn't that so interesting? Why did the judge consider this necessary?
One can only presume the judge perceived possible risk of repetition of certain actions. An evident pattern in the character of the condemned criminal, we would say.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/restraining-orders-section-5-protection-harassment-act-1997
Under the section Proceedings, the ECHR may decide that the observations by the State and the friendly settlement proceedings can occur at the same time.
ReplyDeleteHow that works in practice with the different timescales isn’t made clear.
Doug D, in another forum, has estimated the timescale for a response as May 6th and he may be correct if the State make use of the full 16 weeks given for their response.
If the Friendly Settlement procedure is running in parallel, then the time scale is 12 weeks for the non-contentious stage, followed by another 12 weeks for the contentious stage, as from January 14th.
If nothing appears on the court website in the next couple of weeks, it may indicate that there has been no agreement.
We have already said in the past that one of the best pieces of advice that we have received came from a very wise person who one day told me “whenever possible, never react immediately to any information, rather let 3 or 4 days to pass by and so allow for all the snow in the globe to settle and also give your adversaries all the opportunities to make all the mistakes they want as freely as they can”. Very wise words, indeed.
ReplyDeleteAs the reader will quickly understand this comment is about Big Round Convict, formerly known as the Big Round Chihuahua, Karen Lowe Sanders.
This is the second time a member of the Lick-Spittle gang has been caught scamming.
The other time was Zora with her We’restarvingfraudFund (to be clear, quoting from the text used in the Fund, “Some nights she [the mum, Zora] has gone without dinner so that us kids could eat”).
Now, KLS has stolen the life-savings from her elderly aunt to buy expensive handbags among other things, while then Zora took the money from, among others, this particular contribution of a 14 yr old girl to spend by going to watch a concert among other things:
“XXXXXX XXXXXXX donated £5
i can’t imagine being in such a terrible situation, i’m sorry i can’t give much (i’m only 14) but i hope this helps. i really hope your situation gets better, no human deserves to be in this position ❤”
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We are certain that those £5 represented a lot to that young teenager with a heart of gold a lot. And we sincerely hope that she never got to find out how she was scammed out of them.
When this scam was exposed, the gang used the minor in whose name the GoFraud text was signed as a shield to twist the disgraceful and evident reality that a scam had taken place and that money had been taken from people with good hearts who were duped into contributing.
It’s irrelevant as to who really wrote those words – some who know Zora very well assure us that it was Zora herself and not the minor writing them. One has to be over 16 to set up a GoFundMe account unless an adult is involved in setting it up. So it couldn’t be done without the adult’s knowledge or consent. Zora would later recognise she was fully in agreement with it all.
Psychological projection is a common trait of the evil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
And like clockwork, Jules has to used it, concerning KLS:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385281529388097537
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @EsMiluLatvijuxx, @feckinseriouss and 5 others
They couldn't give a toss about Karen's aunt, they're using Karen's aunt to troll us whilst trying, but failing to take the moral high ground..
Not forgetting libelling some of us by claiming we not only knew what Karen was up to, but benefited from it too..
#McCann
6:17 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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As the reader can see, this is a very good example of psychological projection regarding the GoFraud scam as it projects the feelings of the gang in relation to the minor they used as a shield.
One just has to replace “Karen’s aunt” for “the minor” and the statement becomes 100% accurate: The gang couldn't give a toss about the minor, they used the minor to troll us whilst trying, but failing to take the moral high ground…
Anyone could see how disgusting the scam was but for the gang it did not matter if the GoFund text was a twaddle of tear-jerking lies (Zora would later detail in exactly what she spent the money scammed), for the gang it didn’t matter innocent people were duped into giving their money away, for the gang it didn’t matter if a 14yr was scammed out of her pocket money because for the gang it only mattered how it was known about the scam.
For the gang, the acquirement of that knowledge was the only thing which happened that should be criticised and shamed. And they persistently did that.
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ReplyDeleteThose who exposed the disgusting scam were the baddies whilst Zora continued to be the saint in the gang’s good grace.
Interesting that now, of all the accusations made against Elaine, “child-stalking” was not among of them. Maybe because the similarities between what happened then and the crime now committed are too close for comfort.
Now, the gang’s amorality has shown itself again, with a court handing out a clear verdict and respective sentence.
The gang’s problem? This time there’s no child to use as a shield and hide behind.
In the absence of a minor, what did the gang resort to? An alleged suicide note.
An alleged suicide note that allegedly mentioned Elaine, so has said Jules:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385209748254085128
Jules ♡@jules999x
Ben hasn't tweeted about anything you lying bore..
Yes, being named on a suicide note like you [Elaine] were is as bad in my books..
You're a multi sock devious troll, regardless of what Karen has done..
Yea, I'm sure Karen would have told us she was fleecing her aunt... 🤡
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzlA7JTXEAAA5UV?format=jpg&name=medium
1:31 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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The revelation of this alleged suicide note caught, supposedly, the gang totally by surprise. Here is Silverdoe’s reaction:
https://twitter.com/Phoenixrises_12/status/1385210330553454592
SilverPhoenixShell@Phoenixrises_12
Replying to @jules999x
WTF suicide note?
1:34 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385211219448143873
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @Phoenixrises_12
You don't know the half of it Shell..
1:37 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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https://twitter.com/Phoenixrises_12/status/1385211398612045827
SilverPhoenixShell@Phoenixrises_12
Replying to @jules999x
Apparently I do - seriously Jules? Bloody hell 🤦
1:38 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385212036418789379
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @Phoenixrises_12
Seriously Shell..
1:41 PM · Apr 22, 2021
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https://twitter.com/Phoenixrises_12/status/1385212321220399105
SilverPhoenixShell@Phoenixrises_12
Replying to @jules999x
FFS - I won't ask who for their privacy's sake - I'm sickened though Jules. Not gonna lie.
1:42 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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So, on April 22, Silverdoe states clearly that she has never heard of it before nor has the faintest idea who the alleged person with suicidal thoughts may be.
Silverdoe, who knows all, apparently didn’t know anything about this surprising bombshell. Silverdoe who DMs about everything decides to express publicly “I won't ask who for their privacy's sake”. Go figure.
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ReplyDeleteAnother “member” of the gang, Geeky (we say “member” because it’s clearly a collective account used by the various members of the gang) was NOT surprised but on reading such dramatic news didn’t give a rat’s behind about Jules’ friend who allegedly was being pushed over the edge.
https://twitter.com/gkylilghost/status/1385213562612850688
geeky@gkylilghost
Replying to @jules999x
I can only assume from this that were elaine to find herself facing the same news about someone close to her she wouldn't be surprised.
1:47 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter Web App
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Rather an insensitive “person” Geeky showed itself to be… but at least Geeky wasn’t surprised, unlike Silverdoe supposedly was.
As this was in the context of KLS’s criminal behaviour, one assumed that this alleged suicide note had been written by KLS. Jules says it could not be:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385247791283425280
Jules ♡@jules999x
Where has anyone blamed others for what Karen did..
Who mentioned Karen was the one you all helped pushed towards suicide..
Come on mouth.. Show us..
#McCann
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4:03 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
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https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385255964228657154
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @feckinseriouss, @carmarsutra and 4 others
Another one [Whispering] with a guilty conscience..
Nobody mentioned who was pushed towards suicide.. 🤡
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezlq9UDWQAEzo-1?format=jpg&name=small
4:35 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
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Note, Jules strongly suggests that it is not KLS but doesn’t categorically say it wasn’t.
At this point in time there’s only one certainty: only Jules knows who wrote the alleged suicide note. No one else does. Not even the alleged harasser, because if the harasser knew then Jules would have no need to say that no one said it was KLS.
Did we say harasser? We meant to say harassers. Above Jules already hinted that it was the case by saying “you all helped pushed towards suicide..”.
This multiple list of harassers had been confirmed by Jules in a previous tweet:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385221811722465280
Jules ♡@jules999x
'Ben ran down and saved Karen's life'
Which voice in your head told you that..
You and others were named on a suicide note..
Your lies and harassment helped in almost pushing someone over the edge..
Sue me for libel if I'm lying.. Come on mouth..
#McCann
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2:19 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
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The fact that allegedly there are many harassers and not only Elaine excludes the possibility of the bullying having been done privately. It had to have been an onslaught of public online abuse by many against that person. Did anyone see it? We didn’t.
Jules then seems to like to play a game about revealing the names of the alleged harassers:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1386046759751884803
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @carmarsutra, @222Phoenixrises and 3 others
That thing Snipes was another one named on the suicide note..
I think Necky is waiting to see if she was named on it too, in fact it's probably hoping it was, it clearly gets a kick out of people being pushed to take their own life..
Birds of a feather..
#McCann
8:57 PM · Apr 24, 2021
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As Whispering has correctly stated, ANYONE could have their name on that list:
https://twitter.com/Anvil161Anvil16/status/1385296734130249740
W@Anvil161Anvil16
So, if we don't know who was pushed - & that includes the alleged harasser - where is the harassment?
Basically just write on a piece of paper with the heading "suicide note" any old name & that person becomes automatically the harasser without knowing s/he was one!! (Dim as) 😂
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzmQCUpWUAo18cM?format=jpg&name=medium
7:17 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
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https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385648347235639296
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @carmarsutra
Imagine being named as someone who helped push someone to suicide..
I really can't think of anything worse..
6:34 PM · Apr 23, 2021·
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Interesting that she didn’t have any problem in reading her friend (and Frog’s) Walker saying publicly that there was little left to push Elaine over the edge…
Jules then equates words on Twitter that no one has seen, with the effective stealing £122,000 off an elderly relative:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385260602252275720
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @feckinseriouss, @carmarsutra and 4 others
What Karen has done is wrong on every level, but The Glums aren't coming off any better..
4:53 PM · Apr 22, 2021·
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Words on Twitter, lest Jules forget and she shouldn’t forget it, do have judicial accountability and if she can prove what she is accusing Elaine, Snips and unspecified others of, then she should act accordingly and head for the police. It’s her duty to do just that to defend her allegedly abused friend, or better said, friends.
Let’s recap before things get too confusing, according to Jules and Jules alone, someone, who Jules and only Jules knows who it is, wrote a suicide note naming Elaine, Snips and unspecified others as responsible for an abuse that no one has seen or talked about, which almost pushed that someone over the edge.
And before KLS got arrested, apparently no one but Jules knew about these dramatic events.
But do wait because it gets better. It wasn’t just one probable suicide but many:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1385212887615086592
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @Annalee63433060 and @Phoenixrises_12
Yes.. and if it wasn't for someone's quick actions that thing, plus others would have succeeded..
1:44 PM · Apr 22, 2021
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Now we get to know that it’s not only not one alleged near-suicide but many. Not one other but “others”.
But most importantly, we also get to know that it’s not only Jules who is aware of all this drama, but someone else, of quick of action, also is. Who? We don’t know.
We don’t get to know who are the near-suicidal people nor who are the harassers besides Elaine and Snips.
No one in the gang has acknowledged to have been the author of the note nor has anyone come out to thank the unknown “quick-action” individual mentioned by Jules.
Silverdoe, the biggest whiner of the gang was supposedly surprised, so it can’t be her.
Also, no one has come out to acknowledge to have been the quick-action person.
Also, before it was known that KLS had been sent to prison for her crime, no one, including Jules, mentioned before this drama that allegedly was ongoing.
It’s really like all this suicidal drama is entirely just inside Jules’ head. Just like the BRT pics.
Jules, as is known, is a liar and a terrible one at that. Her obsession for doubling down is her biggest downfall. An obsession which makes her constantly try to heal paper cuts by swinging axes on them.
What is the difference between Jules and Monty Python’s Black Knight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs
The difference is that the Black Knight is alone.
He does not have a circle of medieval peasants egging him on. There’s no one around him shouting “you tell him”, “look at the coward turning his back on you” or “if he hadn’t run away, you’d have spilled his blood all over the ground”.
Would these imagined peasants make the Black Knight look more or less pathetic? We will leave that up to the reader to judge.
However, the peasants are imagined but the gang egging on “limbless” Jules is real, very real.
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ReplyDeleteHere is just another example of what a terrible liar Jules is:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1386064399027392513
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @222Phoenixrises, @carmarsutra and 3 others
Dave Hall informed me in an e-mail that he knew Karen was bi-polar, so Slackers can do one..
Having mental health issues is no excuse for being a troll like that lot are..
10:07 PM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter for Android
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https://twitter.com/DaveHallCoLtd/status/1386072301368709122
DaveHall@DaveHallCoLtd
Did I? Did I hell as like. Care to show proof to everyone?
@jules999x @strackers74
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10:39 PM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
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When Jules is backed into a corner, what does she always do? She summons her lapdog JBLittlemore.
Unsurprisingly she did just that, and so transparent all was that it helped show how desperate she was after falling down the rabbit hole that she had created. This tweet tells us a lot:
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1386050568720982017
Jules ♡@jules999x
Replying to @JBLittlemore, @Phoenixrises_12 and 6 others
I've no idea JBL..
She just disappeared, wasn't answering calls, msgs etc.. We were all worried sick & then the homophobic troll tweeted an article.. We were all gobsmacked to say the least..
9:13 PM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter for Android
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Jules, after trying to make us believe there are BRT pics and that there is a suicide note, uses her lapdog to try and convince us that they were all caught by surprise.
If what Jules is saying is correct, then KLS could have been dead for all they cared because nowhere can it be seen this alleged worrying mirrored in anyway on Twitter. A friend disappears and life goes on exactly as it always had. Good friends KLS has…
If this suicide note was written by KLS then the prison should have been made aware if she is a suicide risk, as procedures must be put in place for at- risk prisoners:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/suicide-self-harm-prevention-in-prison
Her defence barrister seems to have made no mention of a suicide attempt in her mitigation. That would have been an important point to make regarding sentencing.
If KLS refrained from briefing her barrister because she wanted to keep that private, her so-called friend Jules has breached that confidentiality by putting it all over twitter.
The same if it wasn’t KLS. Jules has broken confidentiality. If the note is true, that is.
And if it is supposed to be KLS it’s interesting that the gang don’t find it strange that she was more distressed by someone being mean to her on Twitter rather than because of remorse about what she did to her aunt.
And about what KLS did to her aunt this is what Jules’ and Frog’s friend Walker had to say:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lostinthecity7/status/1385312516364984320
Miss J@Lostinthecity7
Replying to @MMTRUTHORLIE, @SidShite and 48 others
Apparently the thief’s actions were noble...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzmeYrOXIAE9zgp?format=jpg&name=large
8:20 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
[The picture attached is a screengrab of a Tweet from Walker, since deleted:
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She should have got 5 years for that amount of cash.
Word from my CPS contacts is that the Aunt knew and was wilfully disinvesting herself to avoid huge care costs. Looks like Karen took the wrap, sounds noble to me. Bet the money is still out there, somewhere.
#mccann”]
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This is an absolutely defamatory statement about the elderly aunt, who is accused of fraud and perverting the course of justice and attributing the leaking of this accusation to the Crown Prosecution Service.
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We haven’t seen a single word of condemnation of this by the gang and 2 people liked this tweet.
And talking about condemning or not abhorrent behaviour, we have not seen a single member of the gang condemning KLS in clear terms. The best we have had was Jules saying “What Karen has done is wrong on every level, but…”
Some claim KLS they don’t condone what she did. The fact they implicitly expect that we would expect them condoning a crime says more about them than about us. Of course no one condones, but any decent human being should condemn categorically and without hesitation the ripping off of the life-savings of an elderly relative as they should have condemned the taking of money from good-hearted people, including the pocket-money of a teen girl which none did in both cases.
For the Frog, Walker’s and Jules’ friend, we are all taking pleasure of KLS’ misfortune:
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1385909147519131648
Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @loverandomieigh
Schadenfreude poisons your soul.
11:51 AM · Apr 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
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This is what Wikipedia has to say about Schadenfreude:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
“Schadenfreude is the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of another.
Schadenfreude is a complex emotion where, rather than feeling sympathy, one takes pleasure from watching someone's misfortune. This emotion is displayed more in children than adults. However, adults also experience schadenfreude, although generally they conceal it.”
As far as we know, the only person having a misfortune was the victim, who, according to Frog we shouldn’t feel sympathy for because we don’t know her:
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1386688083362553859
Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @strackers74 and @loverandomieigh
Misfortune is just 1 word used in Schadenfreude, if u bothered to look. K's reported misfortune was to suffer financial difficulties & she chose a criminal route to deal with it. Your faux sympathy for a nameless, faceless victim is worthless when your sole interest is perp.
3:26 PM · Apr 26, 2021·
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And this must be the most idiotic deflection of the KLS situation we have seen so far:
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1386688733169262597
Francesca Frogg@MistyDa83907643
Replying to @strackers74 and @loverandomieigh
It's a crime - as is stealing someone else's photo online & passing them off as yourself.
Tell me - do you feel the same way about Amaral as you do about KS? (and he never served time for his financial crimes)
3:28 PM · Apr 26, 2021
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Frog equates KLS to Gonçalo Amaral. We don’t think we need to say anything more about this pathetic comparison.
But there is something similar between KLS and Gonçalo Amaral and that is that they have both faced justice in the appropriate place to face it: their respective country’s judicial system. One is in prison, the other is not.
KLS is now paying the price for her actions, so we think people should refrain from saying anything further about her. If she resumes her previous behaviour, that’s another totally different scenario.
Also, taking into account that apparently the police seized KLS’ computer and phone equipment, if any news comes out of this, we will obviously comment.
We all have our particular stories, successes and failures, things we are proud of and things we are ashamed of in our lives but the knowledge that we are on the opposite side of the fence of Jules, KLS, Frog, Walker, Zora, BenT and the rest of the Lick Spittle gang is a balm for the mind because it means we continue have values, empathy and souls, a true badge of honour to be worn with pride.
Nobody has as many suicidal friends as Ben Thompson. If they didn’t stalk people and threaten them with violence or commit fraud, they wouldn’t be suicidal. When Erica Jane and Shell told lies to the police to have Debbie and Elaine arrested, some of the gang were bound to feel suicidal. Because they are scared of being investigated by the police and ending up where Karen is.
ReplyDeleteThey also know the consequences for telling lies about Anvil being on the sex register for paedophilia and accusing Elaine of stalking a child. Why has Zora McCartney still not reported Elaine to the police? Is she afraid their point of view would be that Elaine had protected the child by exposing the gofundme (which the child was not old enough to have) and that they would have to refer Zora to social services for having enabled her child to beg for money on the internet, because she could not afford food and rent for her family?
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The lot of you are trying your very best to drive someone, anyone, over the edge. You've been told you nearly drove someone to suicide (you weren't told who) long before this Karen stuff, and yet you ALL continue.
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So don't be surprised when/if the police turn up at all of your doors. You've been asked and warned to stop several times, but you continue regardless. If someone chooses to go to the police about any or all of you, you only have yourselves to blame.
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You can try as hard as you want to rewrite history, but should someone now involve the police, they'll see exactly what all of you are like. Full-time stalkers and trolls. Which, as you know, are jailable offences.
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Not sure if you're aware or not but today was the Sonia Poulton court case regarding her YouTube video Paedophiles in Parliament. I don't want to mention the former MPs name as people can look it up. She is claiming her work was highly researched.
ReplyDeleteI for one, beg to differ. Her Twitter followers, on the other hand, are right behind her and believe what she says is the truth. Her research methods are for the birds IMHO, and she's spread more harm than good, plus, she never did understand the Maddie affair.
She dangled the inducement carrot and came up with nada. No matter, let them pay her extravagant lawyer's fees and lifestyle bills if they need to believe her research that badly. That way, their questions will always go unanswered.
Why is Ben Thompson saying people are talking about friends of his who have committed suicide? It was mentioned that he has friends who say they are suicidal, not that he had friends in his past who committed suicide. The only reason his friends have threatened to take their own lives, is because they know what the police will find if they are investigated.
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After seeing her gloating over the suicide of people I know this morning, I couldn't disagree more. That woman doesn't deserve a shred of happiness, not when she delights in the misery and unimaginable suffering of others.
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Elaine Strachan was named - along with other sick trolls, in a #suicide note left by a friend of mine. She was named because she and her friends trolled and bullied my friend to such a degree that they felt the only option was to take their own life.
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I have just been sent a screenshot of a tweet from a sick troll who thinks it's ok to use the #suicide of two of my friends as a stick to beat me with. Elaine Strachan @ Strackers74 This is beyond vile, even by your
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The lot of you are trying your very best to drive someone, anyone, over the edge. You've been told you nearly drove someone to suicide (you weren't told who) long before this Karen stuff, and yet you ALL continue.
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...and now you have Chris who's been dripping his poison into all of your DM boxes for months, and only last week told the most sickening lies about someone who committed suicide, and then claimed to be "her voice" The list of Chris' sick games is endless, so no surprise.
If someone who refuses to get a job had a friend who kept lending them money from an old aunty's bank account, but the friend went to prison before the money could be paid back into the account, who should the money be paid back to? To their friend in prison, so they can buy luxuries like food and toilet rolls, or should it be returned to the old aunty? Or should they keep the money as a gift, as the bank has reimbursed the old aunty? Asking for a friend.
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@strackers74
Thread on Karen Sanders and the "terrible abuse she got on Twitter".Face with rolling eyesFace with rolling eyesFace with rolling eyes
You'd think Ben would zip it given I know about his private life from one person - KAREN!!!! Clown faceClown faceClown face
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@strackers74 @leetronix @DaveHallCoLtd @Anvil161Anvil16 @Lostinthecity7 @Ioverandomleigh @loverandomieigh
Karen sanders Down pointing backhand index#troll on #mccann tag. Now in prison for theft. This is her being ‘pushed’ to edge... can’t you tell how down she was.
10:28 AM · May 1, 2021·Twitter for Android
Software for analysing imagery hasn't been invented yet, at least not in the minds of individuals who see all things dark and sinister in the images of Maddie.
ReplyDeleteI felt an overwhelming need to say that, as there are grown men again on Twitter who insist on viewing this situation through a lens of depraved murkiness. Which individuals stood to gain from exploiting the nonce angle?
Additionally, how disappointed would Madeleine be about this casual accusatory blackening of her name, on a scale of one to ten? My guess would be bigger than the dollar value of the entire Madeleine-industrial complex.
Happy Sunday to all genuine people.
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(Censored). This was around the time Karen was saying Ben was trying to come between her and Jules by telling her things about Jules she knew were lies because she has known Jules for years. Karen didn't believe the warning she might be sent to prison, and she did not expect the sentence she was given. So why have her friends who tweet about caring about their potentially suicidal friends and friends with mental health issues, left her to rot and not rung her to tell her they are thinking about her and to ask her if she needs anything?
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 2 May 2021, 13:07:00”
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We have censored the comment because you make serious allegations about the inner life and habits of the members of the gang you mention. We are not doubting you word – in fact we are very much inclined to believe all you have said – but as there are no hard proof, we have preferred to not publish it in its entirety.
Hope you understand.
Latest news on the KLS front:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/GnusCast/status/1385623554536976387
TheGnus Ⓥ@GnusCast
For 5 years I suffered unprovoked harassment, intimidation, attempted blackmail as protected witness in a criminal prosecution from Karen Lowe Sanders. The prosecution was successful.
Yesterday, this:
https://thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19228879.niece-branded-despicable-jailed-122-000-fraud/
A #fraudster & #thief as well.
Two years isn't enough.
4:56 PM · Apr 23, 2021·
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https://twitter.com/ChrisRo43783874/status/1388541078882693121
Chris Roberts@ChrisRo43783874
For the avoidance of doubt,the BRC was issued with a PIN notice following her lying to the police that I had harassed her even though I'd had NOTHING to do with her for 4 years. SS of her own rabid abuse sealed the deal.
If you want to come for me, you need to "load for bear".
😊
6:09 PM · May 1, 2021
https://mobile.twitter.com/johnhemming4mp/status/1388743536514846723
ReplyDeleteJohn Hemming@johnhemming4mp
Replying to @cherylw70517755
There is an organised harassment campaign against my family and myself. I have already reported this to the police. Please give me your name and address so I can provide your details to the police as part of that campaign.
7:33 AM · May 2, 2021·Twitter Web App
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MayklUoker/status/1388887328786092033
Maykl Uoker@MayklUoker
Replying to @johnhemming4mp and @cherylw70517755
Are you aware Poulton door stepped Kate McCann who’s child had been abducted and accused her of being complicit in the crime? She’s disgusting. The video is on YouTube.
5:05 PM · May 2, 2021·
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https://mobile.twitter.com/johnhemming4mp/status/1388911315704549381
John Hemming@johnhemming4mp
Replying to @MayklUoker and @cherylw70517755
They have done a lot of nasty things to lots of people.
6:40 PM · May 2, 2021
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Somebody within the gang should tell idiot Walker that there are times during which one plays a character and other times when life is really real.
Nothing like throwing S. Poulton under the bus at a critical time.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous has left a new comment on your post "Gonçalo Amaral on CdM: "Enough with the lies" - co...":
Great to see BRC where she belongs. (Censored). The transparent attempts to distract from the bombshell news of Kaz Incarcerated have been frankly laughable, or would have been if the whole thing wasn't so vile. Literally everyone can see what you are doing! They've gone quiet now. It won't be from shame. They don't have any of that. No doubt they're cooking up another "the police are on their way to see you" intimidation campaign. As to Kaz's mate "Walker", well she must be laughing her (many, MANY) socks off that people still think she's a male. Even outed herself with this Tweet https://twitter.com/MayklUoker/status/1388919968444600324 which seemed to go unnoticed, maybe because the yapper gang was not on #mccann when all this happened. For their info, the only person Poulton's then boyfriend sent a gun pic to was @Urcrazytoo (ID known. Female called MA [Full name redacted by the blog to its initials] . Yappers can ask BT. He knows all about her. Please redact name or just use intials if you feel necessary) https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/565082728895631361 There are many more Tweets from Urcrazytoo about the gun threat. https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/563668426552770561 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/565236524544184320 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/566568632751517696 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/566649884795994113 https://twitter.com/urcrazytoo/status/563623922835677185 etc
She (Walker) probably had too many Bank Holiday sherberts when she made this major gaffe.
Just as a final thought, how on earth has no-one clocked that @I_Love_cats2014 and @OnideousM is the same troll? Thinking this one has many accounts. MrNayNay3 could be another but I can't see those Tweets any more. Please be Careful who you share confidences with, so many trolls & gameplayers out there.
Anyway, Happy Birthday Madeleine, praying that this year is your year.
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 12 May 2021, 10:05:00
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Reason for censoring: it involved details about KLS’ personal life and lifestyle. As the blog has stated, KLS has been made accountable for her actions by the justice system and the punishment is by paying the price that same system has determined as appropriate.
Thanks for publishing my message. I've just read it back & to clarify I'm not saying @I_Lovecats2014 / @OnideousM is UrCrazyWalker (M.A.). Not sure if that was clear from my earlier message. Cheers!
Deletehttps://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/07/tv-line-of-duty-police-history-corruption-money
ReplyDeleteThe Met Police are still in need of an overhaul. So many disgraceful episodes persist to this day.
Why would anyone have faith in Operation Grange?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57146622
DeleteSarah Everard: Met Police officers investigated over case file access
Following the previous comment about the Met needing a complete overhaul, this only adds to their catalogue of shame.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9573237/Police-probing-Madeleine-McCann-case-dramatic-new-evidence-against-Christian-Brueckner.html
ReplyDeleteNew evidence? This should be interesting! A tip-off, no forensic evidence, only circumstantial.
Will he be charged by summer? Before the 1st anniversary of his “exposure” to the world as the Maddie’s Lee Harvey Oswald?
Was he involved with body disposal?
Who would be called as witnesses for prosecution and defence?
His top lawyer is Johann Schwenn, working with Fulscher.
Provas circunstanciais são igual a zero e já cansa este joguinho de HCW. Nunca vão conseguir provar o que não aconteceu.
Deletehttps://www.archyde.com/christian-bs-lawyer-this-is-ridiculous-3/amp/
ReplyDeleteMaybe more evidence has come to light in the last 10 months (😂😂😂😂) but this is a perspective from his lawyer.
Someone said about a year ago that the CB tale was nothing more than another distraction, after some very basic research, that opinion seems to be closer to correct than not.
ReplyDeleteThey are out of control, and Wolters has been paid do do a job, but instead he lied. Shocking bunch of charlatans, what happened to unbiased Gamble?
He was dead certain of the odd-looking characters' guilt this time last year, him and some usual members of the Madeleine disrespectful entourage, then nothing but carrot-dangling story lines. How strange!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9584525/amp/German-police-say-believe-Madeleine-McCann-killed-Portugal.html
ReplyDeleteMaddie was killed in Portugal, so says the article is what the German police believes. Based on what?
Where is the body?
Will Brueckner accept this? If he doesn’t, how do they intend to avoid him expressing himself and denouncing the plot that possibly is being set up to frame him?
If they believe she wasn’t taken to Germany, what makes them come to this conclusion?
German police seem to have found that Brueckner did not rent the cellars which they recently searched in Germany, at the time Maddie disappeared. They dug the properties in vain and now look stupid.
It’s usual for German allotments to have cellars, which are not “hidden lairs” as the press claimed. They are cold storage areas for produce.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14973862/madeleine-mccann-evidence-revealed-suspects-phone/amp/
ReplyDeleteIf this is true, they will know the people he was in contact with in PDL.
https://twitter.com/MistyDa83907643/status/1393359814777085952
ReplyDelete@MistyDa83907643
A warning for those without anti-virus software #mccann
The Frog troll & her mate have been trying to scare people away from this blog by saying it's not safe & anyone visiting will be hacked if they don't have anti virus. My access to this site was blocked a few weeks back. I got the message
"Sorry, this website is blocked
textusa.blogspot.com has been blocked by ******* because it matches these categories:
Weapons, Violence, Gore & Hate
If you want to visit this site, you’ll need to change your settings.
Change settings
Have we blocked this site by mistake?
Let us know"
As I know this site contains none of the things mentioned, I suspected someone had reported this blog to try get it blocked. Now I think the culprits have come forward to announce it was them. It's almost as if there's something on here they desperately don't want people to see! ;)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-24135981.amp
ReplyDelete3 crimes by Brueckner.
None of these concern the Maddie case.
There is nothing in the German press about the Maddier case - only the 3 crimes, allegedly relating to Brueckner.
We remind readers that the Brit police, in 2016, after putting up a spectacular show declared that Ben Needham was dead. All based on a toy car literally dug up by a bulldozer.
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-road-of-no-return-and-apologies.html
Since then, we have yet to know on what evidence the police came to that conclusion.
The media then, pointed the finger to a Konstatinos Barkas:
“In the case of Ben, it was a bulldozer driver, Konstantinos Barkas “outed” in the Mirror article of Sept 16, 2016 by Lucy Thornton “Ben Needham investigation breakthrough as cops probe witness claims missing tot was killed” and later confirmed in another article from the same paper on the same day by Tom Parris, Lucy Thornton and Andy Lines “Digger driver at centre of Ben Needham police probe was successful businessman who 'knew everyone on the island'””
Mr Barkas was never charged. But he became Ben’s Lee Harvey Oswald. For the general public, thanks to the media help, the case was solved: Ben was dead and a culprit had been found.
Now, Brueckner is filling the shoes filled by Barkas in the Ben Needham case. The media is really doing a great job making him Maddie’s Lee Harvey Oswald.
The only difference we see between Barkas and Brueckner is that now the German police has put its chips on the German patsy. We will see how relevant that will be.
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/19/daniel-morgan-panel-refuses-to-hand-over-report
ReplyDeleteNational security or national embarrassment?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/24/faster-than-pcr-test-dogs-detect-covid-coronavirus-london-bmj
ReplyDeletehttps://www.linkedin.com/feed/news/lassie-do-i-have-covid-5458330
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/05/24/dogs-are-more-reliable-at-sniffing-out-covid-than-lateral-flow-tests-14630171/amp/
https://twitter.com/anvil161anvil16/status/1397150253317509126
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Irony alert: NOW is the time to train Covid sniffer dogs to alert also to Malaria. That way, you see, when there's an alert, it can be both Covid and Malaria. Of course they can then bring in a (err) Malaria dog to make certain that it is... wait, what? #mccann #bullshit #lies
12:19 PM · May 25, 2021·
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Exactly!
Train Covid dogs to also to alert to Malaria but make sure they are known publicly ONLY as the Covid dogs.
Keep the Malaria alerting thing to be like a “professional secret”, for example by not alerting to that fact before each search. That way, one won’t spoil the fun of letting a patient believe that he has Covid although the alert wouldn’t mean that!
Also, train other dogs to only to alert to Malaria. That way one can fill one’s mouth with having them “working in tandem” which although it only means working together for a same objective, sounds cool and gives an aura of having “professional secret” knowledge that the rest of humanity doesn’t have.
To each alert by the Covid (& Malaria) dog, bring in a Malaria dog. If it alerts, it’s only Malaria. No, because it could be both Covid and Malaria. If it doesn’t, then it has to be Covid unless it’s a false negative for Malaria.
All very simple. And objective.
What is wrong with this reasoning? Did the reader spot it?
If one trains Covid dogs to alert also to Malaria then why train Malaria dogs only to Malaria? Train them to Paludism as well! That way an alert by the Covid (& Malaria) dog together with an alert by the Malaria (& Paludism) dog means that the patient may have Covid, Malaria and Paludism! That’s a whole new level of panic.
And while the reader thinks of how absurd this is, this is what BenT, NotTextusa, JBLittlemore, Jules and the other gang minion parrots defend regarding the dogs used in the Maddie case.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9626493/amp/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-having-pay-legal-fees-fight-Portuguese-detective.html
ReplyDeleteEXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann's parents are STILL having to pay legal fees to fight Portuguese detective's sickening claim that they were responsible for their daughter's death
By Andy Buckwell For Mailonline 17:40 27 May 2021, updated 19:02 27 May 2021
- Documents reveal the McCann's face ongoing expenses as part of libel action
- Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral claimed they accidentally killed Maddie
- The couple won an initial libel claim challenging his outrageous claim
- But Amaral overturned the decision and it was also upheld by another court
Kate and Gerry McCann are still facing legal costs to fight sickening claims by a Portuguese detective that they were responsible for their daughter Maddie's death, MailOnline has learned.
New documents reveal they face ongoing expenses as part of their long running libel action against the police officer who investigated the disappearance of Maddie, 14 years ago this month.
In a 2008 book Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral claimed Kate and Gerry accidentally killed Maddie and covered it up by pretending she had been abducted.
The couple won an initial libel claim challenging his outrageous claim, but the policeman overturned the decision and it was also upheld by another court.
Two years ago court files showed the couple had had to fork out £29,500 on legal fees for Amaral. Since then they have had to pay out a further £4,229 in legal costs making a total of nearly £34,000.
The European Court of Human Rights is due to rule on a further legal appeal shortly and if the McCanns lose the right to appeal they will have to pay still further court costs to Amaral.
The latest payout is detailed in accounts for the company, Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited, which is funding the search for the couple's daughter aged three who disappeared on May 3, 2007.
Paperwork says: 'Legal costs of £4,229 were reimbursed to the directors, Gerald and Kate McCann in relation to ongoing libel action in Portugal.'
The family's lawyer in Portugal Isabel Duarte said she did not wish to comment on the costs.
Referring to the legal case earlier this year a close friend of the couple said: 'It drags on and on. They go one step forward then two two back. It's caused them so much anguish over the years and they just want to draw a line under it.
'It's never been about seeking damages but simply trying to stop false and malicious accusations being spouted. They still have no idea if their appeal in their fight for justice will be granted, or not.'
Sales of Kate McCann's book 'Madeleine: Our Daughter's disappearance and the continuing search for her' helped boost the fund by £6,543 during the year, the accounts said.
Three-year-old Maddie went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May 2007.
Heart doctor Gerry and medical worker Kate have fought tirelessly to find their daughter.
The Mail article is incorrect. The ECHR application is nothing to do with libel, nor is it an appeal.
DeleteIt’s an application by the McCanns against the state of Portugal for alleged violations regarding their rights to private and family life and the presumption of innocence.
Is this article preparing the public for news that the McCanns are about to lose their case?
Their case was notified to Portugal on January 14 2021, with 16 weeks for the state to respond to a number of case examples quoted by the ECHR. That date would be June 6, if Portugal used the full period allowed.
Since January 2019 it is routine for the parties to be asked to consider a Friendly Settlement (FS) procedure. It’s not “ an extraordinary request” as claimed by a friend of the McCanns in March.
This can be divided into a non- contentious and a contentious stage, each lasting 12 weeks. The first stage is confidential and without prejudice.
Alternatively, it can be a single phase procedure where admissibility and merits are examined at the same time and the applicants are asked to respond to the government observations within 6 weeks.
We think the latter procedure may have been used in this case because it does not require new case law to be applied. We think this because the ECHR stated in January that it was only a case of importance level 3. This means of low importance in that existing case law can be applied.
The court can make its own proposals for a FS to both parties when the single stage procedure is used.
The parties then have 6 weeks to respond.
The state may accept the FS proposal made by the ECHR, which states that this does not indicate that a violation may have occurred. The state may offer financial recompense without accepting any violations occurred.
If the state offers a FS and the applicants refuse it, the state can make a Unilateral Declaration, which the applicants do not have to agree to.
Usually the state accepts violations have occurred and offers financial recompense, but if the ECHR proposal does not include recognition of violations, presumably a Unilateral Declaration would reflect this?
On March 27, according to the Sun, the McCanns received a “legal blow” when they were “told” to accept a Friendly Settlement.
This made us wonder if Portugal had responded earlier than 16 weeks to the cases quoted, defending the decision of the Supreme Court, but also offering a FS which did not accept violations, although still offering some recompense? Let’s say, for example, by covering the court costs incurred by the McCanns.
This would present a dilemma? Take the recompense without receiving any acknowledgment that any human rights had been breached or risk the state making a Unilateral Declaration.
If the single stage procedure has been adopted, we would expect any FS agreed to be made before the end of June.
If the two stage procedure of 24 weeks has been adopted, dating from January 14, then it would be a later date, depending on when exactly the parties respond in the timescales given and whether it moves to the contested stage.
If the ECR have made a FS proposal, that would seem indicative of their thinking and either party wishing to enter the contentious stage suggests they feel the FS proposal is in their favour.
All of this is speculation and not a legal interpretation of events.
Fully identified reader “Please don’t publish as such” at 28 May 2021, 11:17:00, we didn’t know if you desired full anonymity or not, so we decided not to risk it. If you wish for us to identify you, we will gladly do so.
DeleteThis reader, who we consider to be very reliable has informed us that the ECHR “will probably examine the case in the first semester of 2022”.
Our comment above at 25 May 2021, 12:58:00 was written before we opened your comment.
Maybe the case has moved to the contentious stage?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15116470/madeleine-mccann-parents-legal-battle-cop/
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Madeleine McCann’s parents to find out this year if they’ve won legal battle against ex-cop
Nick Pisa
23:30, 30 May 2021
Updated: 23:32, 30 May 2021
MADELEINE McCann's parents have been told they will find out this year if they have won their legal battle against ex-cop Goncalo Amaral.
Kate and Gerry took action against Amaral, 61, for his slurs in book The Truth of the Lie.
He claimed the devastated couple were responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance in 2007.
The pair initially took the case to court in ¬Portugal and won, but then lost an appeal.
They lodged a fresh case at the European Court of Human Rights in 2017.
ECHR judges wrote to the Portuguese government and the McCanns asking for “observations” and if they would consider settling out of court.
The McCann legal team said they were willing to settle but Portugal refused their offer.
The judges will now give a verdict by the end of the year.
Portugal refused the McCann offer.
DeleteWe are reminded of the time when Gonçalo Amaral refused to settle outside the court.
It’s from Nick Pisa, so the usual lies were expected. The legal battle in question is not against Amaral as stated but against the state of Portugal. Amaral has literally nothing to do with this however many times his name is mentioned both in and outside the process.
Another lie, is to say they lost an appeal. No, they lost 2 of them, the last defeat being against the highest court in the country.
This article says it will be settled this year but our information is first semester of next year. Obviously, we trust way more our source.
A very small article. Telling.