Jules, who claims that she has undeniable, unquestionable, unequivocal proof the Big Round Table existed, has decided she was the first to show the Tapas Event picture.
The Tapas Event picture (AKA Tapas Posh Esplanade picture, AKA Frog Esplanade picture AKA CMTV documentary picture) has had various versions (it even has a Ben Salmon one) published since the Frog decided to rehash a picture from our blog.
She did it first in January – no one noticed it, not even us.
A then did it again on Sept 24. This second time we certainly noticed it and said so the following day in this comment in our post “It’s September 2018 - Comments continue”:
“Textusa25 Sep 2018, 09:55:00
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1044313812772564992
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Green Leaper Retweeted Green Leaper
For the benefit of those who want to see the complete big round table....... #mccann
Green Leaper added,
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUlnHhGXcAAiwj-.jpg
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
#mccann
12:53 pm - 24 Sep 2018
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Finally!
After 1,662 days (Mar 7 2014 to Sept 24 2018), has someone from the opposing camp echoed our post “The Proof Ocean Club reads Textusa”:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-proof-ocean-club-reads-textusa.html
Quoting ourselves:
“Lastly, our “Swan Lake - Act 3” post (10Nov2012) showed the extent of image manipulation in Mr Brunts’ Sky News video.
As you can see it has been quite a quest to find BRT.
The elusive and camera shy BRT.
Until, allegedly, November 16, 2013.
The BRT finally appeared and it came from a rather surprising source.
It was when CMTV aired its special on Maddie with Gonçalo Amaral and Francisco Moita Flores in studio.
After this documentary aired we said that we wouldn’t comment about its content until a decision from the Portuguese Justice System on the ongoing damage trial McCann v Amaral in Lisbon.
Our decision was made so as not to hinder in any way whatever tactic Mr Amaral chose to undertake with the CMTV documentary.
But there’s a detail in it that is not from Mr. Amaral, but from the Ocean Club itself.
A “rub-it-in-your-face” moment that no one, to our surprise we must confess, didn’t use to… rub it in our face: the historic moment when the BRT was finally photographed!
After Yeti and the Lochness Monster, only the BRT had remained to be photographed, until that precise moment.
In the CMTV video, part 1, at 29:00, when dealing with the Smith Sighting, to illustrate where, allegedly, Gerry McCann was at the time:”
And we show the picture the Frog has shown above.
Thank you, Frog!”
Please note the word “Finally”:
We would have admitted that the photo compromised our theory if it did. We would hardly have so enthusiastically highlighted the photo if it contradicted our theory, whilst maintaining at the same time that it didn’t.
We used it because when we saw it in 2013 (we invite anyone to show us a publication of that photo before it was shown in the CMTV documentary) we understood that it would significantly help prove our theory, as time as shown that to be so, no matter how much the handful of Monty Python’s Black Knights insisting, oblivious to reality, that “Tis but a scratch”, or as they say “Tis been proven over and over that the BRT existed!”, “Why tis that they still go on and on about the BRT?” or “Tis really annoying they won’t let go of the BRT...”.
In that post of March 7 2014, we clearly published the picture that Jules says now she was the first to publish:
Jules and her photographer (then it was only one, it would become 3 later...) are off the mark in a few years, in the photo that, according to her, is the one that will own us.
We are not aware of any publication of this picture before us.
It would seem logical that Jules obtained the picture from our post, having called her attention to it from our Sept 25 comment above. That is not the case. One indication is that the table with the tablecloth swung over showing the rough wood round top is totally visible in our picture and it isn’t in Jules’ September picture.
One could say she cropped that bit out and added the red arrow. Well, there is one detail in Jules’ photo that shows that was not the case. And the detail is that the picture shows where it came from and it wasn’t from our blog:
It came from CMOMM.
Is Jules’ photographer from Mr Thompson’s and Blacksmith’s favourite place on the internet?! It appears that to be the case!
The photo appears to have come from here:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.
Doug D credits Textusa with the photo of Tapas. Who could have imagined that we would turn out to be Jules’ photographer??
The only other picture that Jules has put up is this one:
It proves absolutely nothing. And it comes from this Chilean documentary:
We have insisted that Jules tell Silverdoe what is so interesting about this video. But strangely enough - NOT - neither seems Jules interested in telling Silverdoe nor does Silverdoe seems to be interested in knowing. Why?
Well, this is what is interesting about this video (as of 27:59):
“Hairdresser: They left them awake didn’t they? Because on the Tuesday… there’s a lady who lives above she comes in to have her hair done… and she was saying that Madeleine was crying on the Tuesday… from 10 o´clock until quarter to twelve in a panic...
Reporter: What?... and they, they not come to... to see?
Hairdresser: No, they were at Chaplin’s that night.
Reporter: In the Chaplin? Not in the other restaurant?
Hairdresser: Not on the Tuesday.”
Interesting that in August (Mrs Fenn gave her statement on Aug 21) a hairdresser knows what the PJ doesn’t or only very recently does.
This hairdresser scene is clearly staged and meaningless as it doesn’t prove that they were at Chaplin’s. But people like Silverdoe and Jules have to explain how Maddie’s crying episode is told with such detail.
What one cannot do is to say this is false and then say the esplanade images, which don’t show the BRT, are true. Either all is true or all is staged. If staged, then why? Why would a foreign TV station stage things?
Lastly, we would like to ask all those who say the Tapas Event picture proves the existence of the BRT during the whole week, if this picture proves that there was a truck parked ALL week in front of the Tapas entrance:
According to them it does. According to them, anything that was photographed on May 4 is proof that it existed and was there all the previous days. Of course it is absurd to think that truck was there all week as it is absurd to think that the esplanade looked like this all week:
It was set up like that for a single and specific day: May 4. It remained in place the next day because Maddie’s disappearance altered all plans and the event became something no one cared about with the exception of making sure that no TV station filmed it.
Jules has said that she’s going to own us. She says she has e-mails and pictures that prove that the BRT, the table used by the T9 existed. She has shown no such thing. She has put up a picture of a table that was there only for a day in that esplanade and for an event that never took place and another that frankly shows nothing. And as an indication that the Tapas Event photo proves the exact opposite of what Jules attempts uselessly to say it does, is the fact that she can scour NT’s blog and see that not once does he mention it.
But she says she has published all the pictures, she has no more pictures to show:
As we have seen, she has shown nothing. So all she has left to prove she’s not bluffing with an empty hand are the e-mails. But then it won’t be hard, she knows where those mails are:
We have put up a reminded on top of the blog so that she doesn’t forget to show these to all of us:
All in her time, of course.
Post Scriptum:
As readers know, Jules has reacted by saying that she had put the Tapas Event picture before the one that she published on Sept 29:
We asked Jules to show us when. As usually happens when we ask for Jules to put her money where her mouth was, we got nothing. No surprise there.
But then Silverdoe told us she had found it easily and told us to look for it. It turned out that by saying that Jules had “put it up less than a week ago” it meant she was telling us to find the tweet published on Jan 22, which picture we had already published and which is at the top of this post.
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We didn't look for it but a friend of the blog did. And s/he found that “early tweet”. It turns out that Jules has really published a Tapas Event picture before Sept 29. It was on... brace yourselves... on Sept 24!
A whole 5 days before!
Remember, this is all about Jules claiming that she put the picture before the Frog did. So let’s compare the Jules’ Sept 24 tweet with the one from the Frog on Jan 27, a few months before:
And we remind readers that the Frog had retweeted her Jan 27 tweet on that same Sept 24:
Only it was 3 hours before Jules tweeted hers. Another copy and paste job from her.
It seems Jules, even by bringing at the last minute this new horse called “Early Tweet”, has again lost the race to the Frog.
The more she digs the bigger the hole she’s put herself in, becomes.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1088227019119362048
ReplyDeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns @Anvil161Anvil16 @jules999x
Tried to out me? I'm now so many people I've lost track : ) Am I also a 'gang' member, paid to protect the swingers in PdL? A bad person because I made it clear Textusa's desperation to discredit my tweets, & those of others, was both weak & unacceptable? All rubbish. All wrong.
4:08 pm - 23 Jan 2019
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Let’s not forget that JBLIttlemore is one of the few who we know is privy to all Jules’ secret BRT information.
JBLittlemore, we think you are one person and one person only, so under the penalty of confirming that you are as big a liar as the rest of the Lick-Spittle Gang, please list all the names of the people we have accused you of being, including the one we think you are.
JBL was also aware of the content of Jule’s deleted tweets.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1088412936371138560
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules1602x @TheBunnyReturns and 2 others
Good day Jules. But which non gang member am I? Pros suggested I'm M Grime, JillyCL, Lizzy HDH, Syn0nymph, Vicky L & others - & now apparently Lowe is dragged in?! Ye gods! Nor am I in a gang. The 'knowing who', paranoia & insanity that pervades this case now is beyond belief.
4:27 am - 24 Jan 2019
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Thank you for your reply. Your words speak for themselves.
None of the above were said by us, the ones who say you are clearly part of the Lick-Spittle Gang.
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1088335631703556097
ReplyDeleteJules ♡ @jules999x
Replying to @CarlaSpade
Those sheets only show MW guests who dined between the hours of 7-9.. We have nothing before or after.. There could well be other sheets that we're not privy to.. Not saying there is, but a possibility surely, considering all guests who used Tapas are in the files.. #McCann
11:20 pm - 23 Jan 2019
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The Lick-Spittle Gang should have a proof reader. Don’t these people read themselves before they write?
Remember the tweet Jules made about there being no explanation as to why the Tapas reservation sheets only had Mark Warner guests and only for the period 7 – 9, implying there must be other reservation books for other tourist operators and within them each for a separate period of time in the day?
Well, now she confirms all by saying there could be Tapas reservation sheets that we’re not privy to. Why would that be? Because James Bond’s name may be in one of them?
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1088144778225700864
ReplyDeleteKilla Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Replying to @jules1602x
So where are the other 415+ Swingers that TEXTUSA says were wallowing around in filth? #mccann
10:41 am - 23 Jan 2019
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Oh, so swinging is “wallowing around in filth”?
The Frog has deleted his twitter account!
ReplyDeleteOr HER account, in my opinion.
DeleteI suspect her identity was reaveled, or close to be revealed.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/mcstravick_mac/status/1088327152334970880
ReplyDeleteMarykate @mcstravick_mac
Replying to @CarlaSpade
Does anyone with half a brain still believe they dined on shakey tables at the edge of a cold pool in a cold week in April 🤥🤥
10:46 pm - 23 Jan 2019
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…and around one really big round table that amazingly has never been photographed!
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1088714627545001984
ReplyDeleteJules ♡ @jules999x
Replying to @CarlaSpade @JillWillybach @Chinado59513358
Hi.. I've replied on your blog.. People are sick of seeing this shite on tag now.. I actually tweeted a pic before the 29th September.. The 29th pic was one I shared from a friends TL.. For the record.. :) If only your 'friend' had gone further down my TL!!
12:26 am - 25 Jan 2019
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This is the reply Jules is referring to:
Jules.. has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
Wow.. I almost feel 'owned'
Have you thought about getting out more..?
I bet Frog has almost peed herself off her lily pad.. Keep up the good work.. You're doing a sterling job.. Over & out..
Posted by Jules.. to Textusa at 24 Jan 2019, 13:36:00
We didn’t publish this comment because as readers can see for themselves it didn’t add anything new other than to warrant a reply that we will always find the time to expose liars who are helping in covering-up the death of a 3 yr old girl, the disposal of her body and the persecution of a good man who was only doing his job.
But now Jules’ comment has become relevant because it shows that yesterday it slipped her mind to mention that she had, allegedly, published the photo on an earlier tweet. All she has to do is show us that earlier tweet.
And take the opportunity and show the e-mails about the BRT as well.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_605.jpg
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone think this looks genuine? If names were genuinely changed on a rota, it would be easier to re-do the rota sheet?
Whose names were underneath the blotted our parts?
Jules earlier tweet of the BRT pic is there on her account, I found it easily, surely if you've took time to go through others accounts to place the links on this blog, you'd know how to do so yourself?
ReplyDeleteOr don't you do your own work? Or do you have puppets to do your bidding?
Why does Jules have to do your work for you to disprove YOUR claim?
Why does she have to show you emails that you have bullied her for months over? It's disgusting. Shame on the lot of you.
Was CMOMM btw locked as Jill done so at the time Jules tweet of the BRT was posted? Perhaps or perhaps not, worth a check and I mean YOU checking yourself.
Hello Mr Thompson,
DeleteAnd here we thinking that you had been ordered to stay away from us... but you can't control yourself, can you?
Published your comment just to show what a fool you are making of yourself. Again. As usual.
If CMOMM locked, then Jules wouldn't have been able to copy and paste the picture from there.
Oh, it's you Silver?
DeleteYou left poor Jules on her own yesterday... tut, tut..
Ready to answer the Hynds question?
Also, Jules herself said she would show emails in a tweet of hers, we are all wondering where they are or when the reveal will take place. It’s odd, to say the least, that no photo of a group of friends enjoying a night out on a BRT has never surfaced. That’s what people do, especially when they are all sat together around a BRT it’s a photo opportunity! often waiting staff are asked to take a photo so all friends can be in it together. Anyway we await patiently for these telling emails.
DeleteAre you ready to show the BRT didn't exist before the 3rd?
DeleteAnd to apologise to Mr Thompson you unfairly accused?
Whatever proof you get shown, it won't matter, you'll twist it and belittle, so what is the point of showing you anything?
Or answering anything?
I won't pander to your whims, dig all you wish, people everywhere have had enough of your farce now, the BRT has become a joke, the bullying however has not.
Silverdoe,
Delete1. Do we really need to apologise to Mr Thompson? Is it being confused with you that big of an insult? Apparently, to you, it is. For your information, we are glad we confused him for you because the reaction it provoked was priceless.
2. The BRT is a joke? If anything transpires from your comments was your laughter. One could sense what fun you were having when writing them.
3. Says the defendant to the judge, “Your honour, I have absolute proof of my innocence but I won’t show the court because whatever proof I show, it won't matter, the prosecution will twist it and belittle, so what is the point of showing the court anything? Please send me to prison.”
4. Now we have 2 people who have seen the “early tweet”. Jules and Silverdoe. Either both are telling the truth or both are lying. The can easily prove they are telling the truth, it’s their choice and it’s their reputation that’s on the line.
5. Jules, we would say that the longer you take in not showing the pictures, the e-mails and the “early tweet” the more you are embarrassing not only yourself but your friends, like Silverdoe, who are sticking their neck out for you. Please don’t disrespect them. Please publish all you have that will prove us wrong.
Jules has already shown it. She put it up less than a week ago. You owe Mr Thompson an apology for many things, not least of all blaming him for many anonymous comments on this blog. It just so happened on this occasion you were shown to have been wrong on twitter, instead of here where you could hide the truth...as you do so often.
DeleteDo you honestly think before you write???
DeleteJules has said she has published a picture of the Tapas Event picture before Sept 29, not that she published less than a week ago!
Her tweet from less than a week is the first picture of this post!
So you enjoy pressuring others to do your bidding over your false claims whilst making demands and proving absolutely nothing?
DeleteDo YOU think about what you post or just like trying to act like the ''big cheese'' around here?
Actually? I like cheese, scrap that. The big little big horn perhaps always blowing yours without a thought about how unbelievably catty and nasty you sound? Is that the legacy you wish to leave behind?
Where do I hide the truth?
Where was I wrong? Prove it. Back up your accusations or don't make them at all or are you proving you are nothing but the frauds who like their word salads rather than ones who proclaim to be here for Madeleine? Good to know you enjoy provoking a response finding it so funny, that shows a worrying side of your psyche' - I really do worry that you think that you are here for justice.
And don't try to put me beneath you in any way, I'm not. Far from it. I don't need to prove anything. YOU do...Signed SILVERDOE - Before you claim otherwise AGAIN and LIE....AGAIN.
And if we are being ''fair'' you'll publish my last comment seeing as you are challenging me provoking a response still? THAT is my response after all ''signed SILVERDOE''
DeleteI reckon the brilliant Textusa sisters should apologise to all the lick-spittles, once they can make good on something else Jules was talking about last September, also to no avail as yet. Which was the talk of having so much of their content removed or banned, because they were 'stealing tweets, photos and videos' etc. We can't have anyone disbelieving every word they say, can we?
DeleteWhen was it again that SILVERDOE (is that trademarked) said she was NEVER going to mention you again, after so hilariously promoting this great blog all over the place?
DeleteBe fair :) Long before that textusa claimed there was no BRT before the 4th, it's been proven since there was via photographic and disputable proof, has textusa yet got a photo inside the tapas bar which DOESN'T show a BRT anywhere? Signed SILVERDOE
Deletehttps://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qIOt5ee9pRE/W-MtZMSfYjI/AAAAAAAAQ74/xcmduI-BE5wcZd_FNPoZz8T8jXEPAUUUQCLcBGAs/s400/Alamy%2Bpage.jpg
Deletehttps://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-restaurant-of-the-resort-the-ocean-17520962.html
Textusa seeing as I have to ask again for proof of there being no BRT BEFORE the 3rd, those photos were verified to have been taken in September 07 so will you be providing adequate proof please? Signed SILVERDOE
DeleteDear 'Signed SILVERDOE', a few questions about your latest lunacy, @ 16:40:00.
Delete1) When was it that 'textusa claimed there was no BRT before the 4th', for you to be able to state as fact that anything occurred 'long before'?
2) Please explain 'disputable proof', as it's a matter of fact that no such thing exists.
Yours truly,
I, the undersigned,
SILVERDOE
Well see this is the thing about word salads - Imply - Allude - But never quite say what you mean, different things? Enough distractions, deflections and using Madeleine when it suits please, I would like to Have textusa who has done so much work ''debunking'' so you all think the BRT on the 4th is debunked, and didn't exist, whilst not printing out my messages now oddly for some reason, I am asking for proof of otherwise, is that really such a big deal?
DeleteShould be easy for a great ''researcher'' shouldn't it?
Perhaps I am wrong.
Otherwise perhaps textusa should then explain that they're not claiming the BRT wasn't there in the tapas bar before the 4th and why?
That would clear so many things up - Would it not?
Signed SILVERDOE
"Otherwise perhaps textusa should then explain that they're not claiming the BRT wasn't there in the tapas bar before the 4th and why?"
Delete*****
Translation please.
Silverdoe,
DeleteFirst of all, it’s good to know to see you agree that the Tapas Event photo is absolutely meaningless. According to your reasoning, as it was taken after May 3, it proves absolutely nothing.
You have just rendered useless all the efforts made by your friend Jules.
Now, it’s not a very honest thing to do to ask for proof of something that never existed and could never have been photographed.
For example, we can say as much as we like that there wasn’t a statue of an unicorn in the middle of the esplanade that week but we cannot prove it because there will never be a photograph of something that has never existed. Like the BRT.
You should ask Jules and not us to show you the proof she has that the BRT existed. She left you out of the privileged clique? Tut, tut.
We don’t have any proof that the table existed and we have looked for proof of it. We, unlike you, don’t simply point at every round table we can and say that it was that one. We think, as we have explained, that such a large object had to appear in the photographs of the esplanade. There is no proof the BRT did exist before the 4th and it’s obvious there should have been, if it did exist.
Problem is that there aren’t any photographs of those dinners that people queued up to have a meal. Guests have submitted their pictures on the beach but not a single tourist has submitted a picture of their dinners at Tapas. Not talking about the T9 but of every other guest who allegedly ate there. Like earning the right to visit the Pope and then not take a picture next to him.
But there is one person, besides your friend Jules, who says she has pictures. That is Dianne Webster:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm
“ Reply ”Oh no, no not at all.”
4078 ”Okay, so you’ve been back to the Tapas and you’ve collected bits and pieces that people have left lying around. You mentioned a camera, or cameras, had there been many photos taken that evening?”
Reply ”Err there hadn’t, I don’t think there’d been any taken that evening and I think err I can’t remember who, it was either, it was either Kate or err Rachael, it might have been Kate, who’d brought their camera because they hadn’t taken any photographs err at all in the evening. I think I was the only one that ever took any photographs in the evening and that was about the second night we were there, I just took pictures of everybody sitting round the table but I didn’t get any of he surrounding areas err but because we hadn’t been really sat there that long no pictures were taken.”
We asked her to publish those photos in Kate’s book before Kate published her book:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2011/04/will-kates-book-definitely-prove.html
She didn’t.
Don’t you find it strange that those pictures are not in the files. If Mr Amaral acted promptly just because of Raj Balu’s posture in the playground picture, there’s no question that the PJ would be interested in Dianne Webster’s photos.
Now, have you noticed how we answer your questions? Maybe time for you to start answering some. Shall we start with the Hynd question?
Okay ENOUGH twisting words, what I said was meaningless was Thus and please do allow this as this WILL be my last reply so savour the taste.
DeleteWhat I said was meaningless were OTHERS trying to prove to you that the table existed because all you are going to do is what you are doing here to me and what your henchman just done elsewhere, lynching peoples tweets and twisting their words and then bullying them, you know it's psychopathic behaviour don't you? I saw that blog entry of yours swearing and yelling at that poor woman for what?
Disgusting. And you have provided nothing. No proof. Yet all these insinuations, posts, digs, arguments, what were they for?
Oh right, to provoke. I will be screenshotting this either way before I send.
You 'guys' have brought this on yourselves. Ta ta, jog on, why anyone would want to prove anything to the ones who prove NOTHING is beyond me. The mind truly does boggle.
Signed SILVERDOE
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1088948058862338048
DeleteSheLLxx 💯 #MMJC#blockshills @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @CarlaSpade
Unless you can prove the BRT didn't exist before 3rd 2007 then why are others scrambling to prove to you and your master it did?
It's bloody STUPID
I would rather post about ALL of the case, not a bloody table - We ALL know they lied. End of story. Now jog on, end of! 🤦🤦 #mccann
3:53 pm - 25 Jan 2019
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Oh good!
Let’s abandon the BRT then. Let’s start with the Hynds. Do you believe they drank all the Tapas sheet say they did on May 4?
Will wait for the answer. We know what you people say about Kate not answering the questions so we are certain that you will answer this one.
Note, we’re not demanding you to answer it, only saying that if you are consistent, coherent and honest, you will certainly demand from yourself that you answer the question.
One wonders why it is SO important for Jules to discredit the BRT and swinging - to the point of collectively tittering on twitter with her 5 other friends. What's in it for her? What's her own theory on what happened to Maddie McCann, or is the sole purpose of her line of attack to make an example of the parents so that people will ignore those pulling the strings - those behind the hoax?
ReplyDeleteIt is very clear that Jules never had any intention of showing the emails .... because they never existed .
ReplyDeleteHer friends know it too .
Their tweets are woeful efforts to try and distract from Jules’ dilemma .
It’s a bit like when the pros claim the PJ files haven’t been translated correctly , not official documents and done with bias by antis .
And when antis say why don’t the McCanns publish their version of the PJ files , the pros answer “ Why should they “ ...... sounds familiar , doesn’t it .
The gang have all hopped onto twitter to bury the BRT debate under the guise of Sedation
ReplyDeleteThey love their mini convos where they all rinse and repeat the same old drivel. Same old same old every time. Still it will save Jules the bother of showing THE EMAILS eh....because we have all forgotten she was going to show them now they are full on another subject.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1088836767149682688
ReplyDelete00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @AlecSharp81 @Beno_ldn
...and the chance of death when a highly trained cadaver dog that had never given a false alert on many previous investigations, and alerted in several areas, including Kate McCann's clothes, is?
8:31 am - 25 Jan 2019
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And that, according to YOU and your master NT proves what? Absolutely nothing. According to both of you, the scent was lingering in the air and Kate simply happened to walk into it.
Are you going to deny NT’s theory of airborne molecules, whereby where the scent is detected is meaningless as it could have come from anywhere?
A good friend of the blog has found Jules' "early tweet"!
ReplyDeleteAnd we did a Post Scriptum on it,which we invite readers to visit.
Comment received that we have censored:
ReplyDelete“Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you've still not found the correct tweet. Keep *digging* (censored). Seek and you shall find. (censored).
Posted by Anonymous to Textusa at 25 Jan 2019, 21:07:00”
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We are certain our good friend will read your comment.
Of course, you say it was not the correct tweet. You do know lying is addictive, don’t you? Once one loses the shame and gets used in seeing people rolling their eyes to the sound of one’s words, everything stops to matter and one just lies, lies and lies.
This is about a dead little girl. That just makes your lies a lot more disgusting.
Anonymous 25 Jan 2019, 21:07:00,
DeleteOur friend asks if this is the "early tweet":
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1021336077859213313?fbclid=IwAR2zZRxEiNI8yCk68MDddgFH0f6kO0S1XxT1Z9Eb9Z3GoALgwaGs03Xe4pA
Oh, and friend also says:
Delete"Been through every 'media' post by Jules in 2018 now, only those that have been cited are there, excluding obviously irrelevant ones (like that last one"
The irrelevant one being the one in previous comment.
Maybe that "early tweet" is in the unpublished PJ files together with the secret Tapas reservation sheets? You know, the sheets with the reservations for the the guests for the other tourist operators and different times of the day for Mark Warner?
All secret stuff... so secret, they were all written in invisible ink. Including the tweet.
I have some of Jules deleted tweets but haven’t seen any ref to the table in these tweets either.
DeleteJust details about herself and references to Walker, as you will have seen in the unpublished info I sent.
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1089251911679778817
ReplyDelete00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @LCLC1969 @Cerb32 and 2 others
Cerb - who has a vested interest in protecting Kate and Gerry #McCann, thinks "it's important that alternative explanations for the (dogs') alerts are presented" Well, Cerberus, you've tried that, and we've debunked EVERY SINGLE ONE! http://laidbareblog.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-truth-of-dogs-mccann-case-and-more.html …
12:01 pm - 26 Jan 2019
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One has to laugh out loud at this one. Mr Thompson who has, since supporting NT, done a 180 degree turn on the dogs, is now trying to pretend he hasn’t read (and fully supported and promoted) what NT supports about the dogs, and is now recommending people read a post from his blog where he absolutely contradicts his master.
NT is an admin on Ben's justice group.
ReplyDeleteUnpublished Anonymous at 27 Jan 2019, 11:02:00
ReplyDeleteYour comment about Mr Thompson is much too personal to be published.
Thank you for understanding.
You have uncovered a lot over the years in regard to this colossal hoax, what I'm wondering is just how many people are estimated to be involved in this scam and subsequent cover-up? Do you have any idea as to the numbers involved?
ReplyDeleteThe way I see it, there were no independent witnesses in this case, everybody there was a part of it. Of this I'm sure, and all in my personal opinion of course.
Unpublished Mr Thompson (both as anon and as Pseudo Nym),
ReplyDeleteCorrect where you have to correct about NT, this blog is not certainly the place. How things stand, what is interpreted is correct. Besides we have only your word for what you state, and as you know your word has absolutely no value.
About the dogs, we must give it to you, like JBLittlemore you both had the impossible task of squaring a circle.
For years you defended a position on the dogs, totally aligned with ours (the cadaver leaves a residue - it’s both on your blog and Twitter TL), but then having to align yourself with NT’s opposite position (the cadaver leaves no residue) to our common one expressed over the years in his blog and very easily transcribed, you decided to put yourself literally below NT (after all he is the master) and throw away any and all credibility you had on the subject.
There is no possible conciliation between your positions on the dogs pre-NT support and after it, no matter how hard you try. It was your choice. Deal with it. Things went haywire, bad luck.
Don’t think your con artist act has many fooled. You should know by now that even within the gang no one takes you seriously anymore and you we would even say there aren’t any more fools left there or elsewhere. We only don’t say there aren’t any left because your “gender-friends” remain faithful to you for some reason and we have to take into account the remote possibility that they are extremely thick individuals. Everyone else you get a praise from (and ne aware that the “gender-friends” may not be thick at all) is pretending. Anyone with half a brain can see through your act.
So, do count on us to point out your hypocrisy regarding the dogs in this case. According to you and NT, the scent alerts only indicate that there was cadaver scent in the air. According to you both, they don’t indicate any sort of contact between the body and surface the dog alerts to.
Say something about the dogs that supports NT’s theory, we will be silent. Be a hypocrite, be pointed out for one.
I have never said it leaves a residue, and if it does, as you so confidently claim, then where was it? Why wasn't it identified? You are, yet again, lying. I have also not left any anon comment, you make that "mistake" regularly.
DeleteAs for any corrections about NT being admin and this blog not being the place, you have a short memory - it was discussed here.
Keep on hiding on your silly little platform game Mario, you're too much of a coward to do anything but.
Mr Thompson,
DeleteIs this an attempt from you to out the name of one of us? You really didn’t need to do that to tick the box of lowlife scumbag. That box has already been ticked a long time ago.
After attempting to out a gender (knowing exactly how much of a hypocrite that makes you and your “gender-friends”) you had the shamelessness of writing this:
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1087885086589177856
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 @jules999x
I have never outed textusa. In fact I've refused to do so when asked.
5:29 pm - 22 Jan 2019
Now you attempt to out a name. You are really throwing away the last scraps of dignity you have. Well, it shows how trustworthy you can be with confidential information but then do you really think anyone would trust a well-known blabbermouth like yourself with sensitive information? Think again.
Congratulations. After having equalled Tony Bennett with the obsession of the gender of whoever writes this blog, you have now equalled Jill Havern:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15746-textusa-the-three-very-important-photos
“Re: Textusa The Three VERY IMPORTANT PHOTOS
By Jill Havern on 22.12.18 14:01
“@Tony Bennett wrote:
Moreover, despite the furious denials we always get from him, CarlaSpade is Textusa”
Really? Why are you so sure?
I don’t think Carla is Textusa.
According to Bendrew on twitter Carla is Nuala S (which she didn’t deny) and is from the UK.
And Textusa is Maria (or Mario) Santos, depending on who you believe, and is from Portugal.”
Only you’re more than a month behind. You keep equalling the CMOMM people, only trailing behind. Is there anyone left there that you still have to match?
About you saying the cadaver leaves a residue:
https://m.facebook.com/McCannScandal/photos/a.193885737462516.1073741828.193442494173507/281770945340661/?type=3
“The McCann Scandal
Via Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka
(…)
Think of it as really sticky molecular chewing gum, sticks to anything but it's a residue, dries out and no longer attaches itself to other things that it comes into contact with...”
Mr Thompson,
DeleteYou can backtrack all you like when and where it legally counts and see then if indeed the backtracking counts.
Until Mr Thompson offers an alternative meaning to the word, this is what the blog is taking as what one of its members was accused by him:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nonce&=true
Nonce:
Used by prison staff, to explain the segregation of inmates who were convicted of sex crimes towards children and the other inmates.
Not
DeleteOn
Normal
Courtyard
Exercise
I explained the rest above. Typical of you to be melodramatic though.
Mr Thompson,
Delete"Not on normal courtyard exercise" because the inmate in question was "convicted of sex crimes towards children and the other inmates" could suffer harm from other convicts due to the nature of his crimes.
Do not try to downplay the seriousness and severity of your accusation, it's not a question of melodrama but of legality.
Stalkers like you are also set to seg. I'll happily prove that in court if you fancy a trip over to the UK. Loser buys lunch!
DeleteVERY INTERESTING tweet:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/ericson_niklas/status/1089491123930886145
Niklas Ericson @ericson_niklas
Replying to @CarlaSpade
I wonder when the "caterpillar tunnels" arrived to the playground? Photo to right claimed to have been taken late afternoon on May 2. Photo to left taken on early morning May 4.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx6mY6TXQAEEDq5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx6mZT9X4AA0pWj.jpg
3:51 am - 27 Jan 2019
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We had heard about the odd positioning of Raj Balu’s foot in the playground photo but this is very well spotted!
For the avoidance of doubt, and to prevent you from twisting my words, when I say no residue, I mean no oily or physical residue that would be retrievable from where the body was positioned. Now off you scurry, and prove me wrong, you NONCE.
ReplyDeleteMr Thompson,
DeletePlease quote us where we have said RETRIEVABLE physical residue. We will be waiting.
NT says that it's purely gaseous, it leaves NO RESIDUE, retrievable or not while you have said:
"Think of it as really sticky molecular chewing gum, sticks to anything but it's a residue, dries out and no longer attaches itself to other things that it comes into contact with...”
A syrup would be retrievable, would it not? Face it, you saw a bottle of synthetic cadaverine, thought it was the real thing, claimed it as such, and true to form, no matter how many times you are shown the facts, you cannot accept you're wrong, so keep digging, you keep lying to your readers, and you keep smearing those who tell the truth. That's all you ever do when you're wrong. You desperately try to project your own failings upon everyone who corrects you. I'll leave you to your verbose response now. I think we both know it will be full of waffle, designed to mask the fact that you'll be lying yet again. Unlike you, my life doesn't revolve around this shit. Say hello to your gang for me, I might just say hello myself before I log off. Try not to overdo things, and do try to get out more. Whilst you think you're fucking everyone else, you're only making yourself worse.
DeleteToodles!
Mr Thompson,
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection:
“Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.”
We will let readers (all readers, those who support us and those who support you) make up their own minds about what each has said, now and in the past, on the subject.
Were they my words? No. Try harder. You said it was an oily substance.
ReplyDeleteMr Thompson,
DeleteThrowing Bohden Chalawaka under the bus? Yes, that would be very much in-character.
Do you usually co-sign things you don't agree with? Do note that it's "Ben Thompson with Bohden Chalawaka" and not "Bohden Chalawaka with Ben Thompson."
A fingerprint is made up by an oily substance that is left behind by the body and is not retrievable.
NT is very clear: NO RESIDUE. Even calls stupid people who say there is. It's only gas, he says. And you agree.
Not only do you discredit Goncalo Amaral, the PJ, accuse the staff at the OC of lying, you also accuse Martin Grime of being a liar, that's to mention the many people you've stalked on a daily basis and frame as pros just to protect your precious blog. Now, the reason I call you a NONCE is very simple, if you lived in this country, you would have been handed a PIN by now, you would have been forced to cease your misrepresentation of the females you stalk each day. If you continued, you would eventually end up in jail, where, you would be segregated, and due to the crimes you have committed you would be rightly referred to as a NONCE. Do correct where you see fit, you vile little coward.
ReplyDeleteOh, and I hate to break it to you, but your stupidity is indeed limitless.
ReplyDeletehttp://theconversation.com/weve-discovered-a-way-to-recover-dna-from-fingerprints-without-destroying-them-98399
Mr Thompson,
DeleteThat article is from 2018.
It is based on a scientific study from 2016.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073816303334?via%3Dihub
Not all fingerprints yield DNA. However, it all points that in the future that will be the case. Sweat from fingerprints couldn’t be retrieved, is sweat not a physical residue?
Science is in constant progress. Some day in the future, short or long, science will be able to determine what exactly makes up the fluid that emits the cadaver fluid to which cadaver dogs alert and will also be able to retrieve it and get DNA from it. That’s in the future.
If according to you there’s no residue (that we say exists and have called oily substance and apparently Bohden Chalawaka – in a post you co-signed – called it “sticky molecular chewing gum”), then what was the point of writing this tweet?
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1088836767149682688
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @AlecSharp81 @Beno_ldn
...and the chance of death when a highly trained cadaver dog that had never given a false alert on many previous investigations, and alerted in several areas, including Kate McCann's clothes, is?
8:31 am - 25 Jan 2019
Were you trying to make the point of being pointless? If, according to you and NT, there’s no residue, then, as we said in our comment at 25 Jan 2019, 17:11:00 “the [cadaver] scent was lingering in the air and Kate simply happened to walk into it” and so, according to you and NT, the alert on Kate’s McCann’s clothes is meaningless, is it not?
It's difficult to understand why Thompson keeps commenting here when he's made to look an idiot every single time.
DeleteYou are simply trolling now. Any further questions will come at a charge per hour, and will be subject to you the student, not being deliberately obtuse. The body releases no cadaver syrup. You have no idea what the target scent of an EVRD dog is, just admit it, ask politely for help, we'll agree on a fee, and you can try to claw back some credibility.
DeleteMr Thompson,
DeleteWe called it syrup, we may be wrong. We called it an oily substance, we may be wrong. Certain is that up to date, science has been unable to determine what it is in reality so it would stupid of us to say we knew what it was.
A simple yes or no question for you: does the body leave or not a physical residue (whatever it may be) on the surfaces it contacts?
Unpublished Anonymous at 27 Jan 2019, 18:54:00,
DeleteWe will not lower ourselves to to Mr Thompson's level and publish personal information.
Thank you.
Understood. Can I reply with expletives instead like he does?
DeleteYawn. The usual troll no doubt. Good of you to admit you lie when you say I worked for Gamble etc though, as that would be classed as personal. Would it not.
DeleteAnonymous 27 Jan 2019, 19:14:00,
DeleteNo. The expletives will be censored.
Not from the syrup or oily sheen you claimed it did. It's an airborne scent. That doesn't mean it wafts in from miles away as you exaggerated, nor does it mean it hangs in the air waiting for Kate to walk into it. Go do some research. The link to the Cadaver dog handlers handbook is in my blog. Read it, and you'll have all the answers you need. Perhaps not all the answers you want, but definitely all the answers you'll need.
ReplyDeleteFinished yet?
Don't ask for one word answers from me when you can't fart without writing 200,000 words of tedium.
Mr Thompson,
DeleteCan you please give a brief explanation as to how the airborne scent remained outside for months to be there and be detected by the dog in the flowerbed.
Can you explain how your non retrievable residue did?
DeleteScents attach themselves to all manner of things Mr textusa. If I were to sit in a smoky room then go outdoors you would smell it on my clothes right? Martin Grime wasn't certain of this alert anyway. But you should know this. Again, this could be explained by scent pooling, and to understand that, I would urge you to read the book I referred you to above.
The explanation we offer is that by the contact of the body with the soil and border of the flowerbed, the body left that non-retrievable residue, from which the scent was emitted and captured by the dog's nose.
DeleteThe residue was left on May 3 but continued to emit for the following months and that's why the dog alerted to that location.
Your turn. Smoking a cigarette in an open backyard doesn't leave traces for months. And a cigarette would leave a scent much stronger than that of a body dead for a couple of hours.
The difference being, that a human nose isn't anywhere near as powerful as that of a dog. You can offer your explanation as much as you like, but the simple fact is it's all bluster. A decomposing body, in the timescale we are both agreed on, does not give off the fluids you claim it does.
DeleteGiven that it's you that makes such a claim, then the onus is on you to prove it beyond any doubt, which given the massive amount of research into decomposing bodies that is available, shouldn't be a problem for you. Should it?
Now, until such a time you can prove that, I think it's fair that you stop with the trolling and stop attributing anonymous comments to me. If I have anything to say, I'll say it from accounts you're familiar with.
You haven't proved what you claimed you would, which was that I had done a 180, and that my twitter timeline would prove that. I checked, and even as far back as 3 years ago I was saying the exact same, long before NT and I met. So, drop the lies.
Are we finished, because the dog is crossing his legs here and I don't intend to spend my evening online.
Anything else?
ReplyDeleteSince you ask, yes.
DeleteWhy did the scent not dissipate with time and movement from the living-room?
If you are going to say that the scent clung to the curtains, please then offer an explanation as to why it didn't cling to the couches that are made of equally permeable material.
Oh, and please confirm that you are saying that the body may not have been in the bedroom wardrobe nor in the corner of the living room.
DeleteAnd oh again... do explain why you wrote that tweet we have republished in our comment at 27 Jan 2019, 17:57:00.
DeleteThe scent will have been dissipating, it was still detectable.
DeleteI am not an expert in materials, nor have I examined both.
I will confirm that the body may not have been in the wardrobe. Martin Grime said exactly the same, and he's the expert.
My tweet is self explanatory.
Go for a beer with a mate, phone a pal, or spend a bit if time with your family - seriously, in private, you used to be ok text, this stalking and obsessing is madness. I don't know what you hope to achieve, but you'll never see the harm you cause others, and you will experience the damage you do to your own life. Edit that last bit out if you want. I'm not the heartless bastard you think I am, but you're on a one man mission to self destruction. You won't get these years back. You might think I know fuck all, and that I'm "under orders" not to comment here, but that just illustrates how much this case has got to you. I don't comment as much because there's more to life than arguing with FKN spades and bald evolution deniers.
You're wasting your life, and you only get one. Do what you want though, it's not my gig, it's yours.
As readers can see, a pro wouldn't have dissed the dogs better. But then, very few doubt on which side Mr Thompson is.
ReplyDeleteLet's now play a game. Who said this:
"the substance behind the sofa couldn't even be determined to be human blood, let alone Madeleine's blood, and the evidence of the cadaver dogs, was questionable"
a) NotTextusa
b) Mr Thompson
c) Someone else
A hint. It is a trick question.
JBLittlemore: "It could have been blood", meaning it could have been something else.
ReplyDeleteMr Thompson: "I will confirm that the body may not have been in the wardrobe".
Begs the question: what good then are the dogs for? Scrap them.
How many times do you need to be shown this textusa? From Martin Grime's statement. Have you read it?
ReplyDelete"What we have to be able to understand in a situation such as this is in a hot climate with the apartment being closed down, the scent will build up in a particular area. If there isn't a scent source in here, i.e. a physical article where the scent is emitting from, any scent residue will collect in a particular place due to the air movement of the flat, the apartment and what I would say in this case is that there is enough scent in that area there for him to give me a bark indication but the source may not be in that cupboard, the source may well be in this room somewhere else but the air is actually pushing into that corner. But strong indication and I would say its positive for things that he is trained to find, which will be part of a separate debrief."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm
We have explained exactly what he meant with that. Look it up in the blog. Don't twist his words.
DeleteI'm not twisting his words. You do realise that the person who co-wrote the blog with me, spoke is a personal friend of Martin Grime, and he confirmed what I have told you, don't you? It's you who is the king of spin. I don't need to look anything up in your blog thanks.
DeleteSo you are now supporting Bohden?? The person you say spoke of the residue and you made certain everyone knew that those words were his and not yours?
DeleteDon't you get dizzy?
As you can clearly see, Martin Grime himself states that the source may not have been in the wardrobe. What is your issue? Do you think the entire world is against you?
ReplyDeletePseudo Nym, could you please back up your claim that body decomposition produces no residue by prodviding adequate references? Not a blog, but peer-reviewed scientific publications if possible.
ReplyDeleteThis would certainly enlight us as to how your theory complies with the following scientific facts (quoting João Pinheiro, Decay process of a cadaver, Forensic anthropology and medicine: Complementary sciences from recovery to cause of death, 2006, pages 85-116):
http://eknygos.lsmuni.lt/springer/657/85-116.pdf
"The formation of adipocere is a natural preservation process that has been known for centuries. Its name, attributed to Fourcroy in 1789, comes from the combination of the Latin adipo- (fat) and cera (wax). This process, which some wrongly consider as a part of putrefaction, is known as saponification.
[...]
This produces a waxy, fatty substance that is brittle; in color, it is yellowish off-white [...], although when stained by decayed matter or blood, may acquire reddish, grayish, or gray-green tones.
[...]
It also gives off a characteristic "earthy, cheesy, and ammoniacal" odor, which may be recognized by dogs trained to discover human remains."
Thank you in advance.
NotFrog
Not Frog,
DeleteAlthough correct in your comment, this is referring to advanced stage of decomposition and would not apply to Maddie's body, as it would be nowhere near this state in the timescale.
All we say is that Maddie's body touched surfaces directly and left enough residual traces detectable only to a cadaver dog, but not in sufficient quantity to be physically retrievable for forensic testing, given the present state of scientific knowledge and abilities.
We agree that Mr Thompson should back up his claim "peer-reviewed scientific publications if possible" or if not in the same manner and haste he had when providing proof for the fingerprint question.
This is also my understanding (although it does not seem to be yet fully understood when the adipocere process starts and under which conditions). The question is how does Pseudo Nym know that human body decomposition leaves no physical residue at early stage when it is well-known that it does at later stages?
DeleteFrom what I have been able to find on the topic, it seems to be now well understood that "human decomposition fluid" consists of various volatile organic compounds - so, as far as I understand, fatty substances that tend to evaporate easily at ordinary room temperature:
https://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/bitstream/10453/62158/2/02whole.pdf
Just taking the oppportunity of Pseudo Nym's presence to ask some questions as he seems to be such a specialist.
NotFrog
A series of comments by Mr Thompson:
ReplyDeletePseudo Nym has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
Seriously, can any of your supporters come on here using their own name or account names, and disagree with what I've said above? Let's see if your own support can defend what you're claiming, because you've totally lost it now. Martin is saying the source of the target scent may have been elsewhere in the room, but because of airflow in that room, and without the physical article (ie the body) the scent may have found (via scent pooling, which I've tried to get you to read about for months) its way into the wardrobe where it settled and was alerted to. It really isn't difficult. I don't know why you insist on making it so.
Posted by Pseudo Nym to Textusa at 27 Jan 2019, 22:11:00
Pseudo Nym has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
Omg! How do you not understand this? You have to be trolling.
Posted by Pseudo Nym to Textusa at 27 Jan 2019, 22:12:00
Pseudo Nym has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
You mentioned Bo, and then refused to publish my comment explaining his, not me. Why do you troll antis so much?
Posted by Pseudo Nym to Textusa at 27 Jan 2019, 22:14:00
Pseudo Nym has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
Bo didn't co-write the blog. Come on textusa, give up now, you're making a massive fool of yourself here.
Posted by Pseudo Nym to Textusa at 27 Jan 2019, 22:16:00
Pseudo Nym has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
Back to not publishing comments again now you've been shown to be wrong again. What an utter fraud!
Posted by Pseudo Nym to Textusa at 27 Jan 2019, 22:20:00
Pseudo Nym has left a new comment on your post "Jules and owning the BRT":
Come on textusa, for once in your life, stand up and be honest. You've been proven wrong, and you're trying to be an arse to yet another person. Just let the comments through, admit you were wrong, apologise to Bo, and stop this utter nonsense once and for all!
Posted by Pseudo Nym to Textusa at 27 Jan 2019, 22:32:00
Mr Thompson,
DeleteWe would like to know what your friend “Bo” will have to say about you calling him “Bo” after you publicly distanced yourself from an article you both co-signed. With friends like you, who needs enemies?
By the way, Bohden Chalawaka is the latest person on the list of people to have fooled you. It was Lizzy with death before 3, it is Bohden with the residue, it was us on… whatever. We still have to know who fooled you on the nannies and you still have to explain why, now that you are fully on board that the McCanns did have breakfast at the Mill, did the T9 get a week’s booking at Tapas.
If you are referring to your co-blog author as having been Synonymph – who, even though she disagrees with us has done an excellent and very commendable work about the dogs, so we basically subscribe her opinions on the dogs – we would LOVE to know what’s her opinion about your “no-physical-residue-all-airborne” theory. Synonymph, if you are reading, please do say something.
We are witnessing an interesting piggy-back phenomenon. You co-write stuff. But it seems that the co-author is indeed the author. The sole author. The residue was by Bohden Chalawaka and this blog by You just lend your name and/or platform. Do you really ever write something on your own?
We have a post, more specifically a legal one, that was basically written by a friend of ours with legal experience. We gave it a platform. We were then careful to acknowledge that collaboration of that friend who opted for anonymity. By publishing it we assumed its content.
Even though most of the content was not written by any of us, it was our opinion. We would never, ever, ever, now say… wait a minute, that was our friend who wrote that, it’s not our opinion. They are our friend’s words but we assume them as the expression our opinion then.
You should have read NT’s blog better. That paragraph from Martin Grime has been used by him over and over again. Without success. Martin Grime says “the source may well be in this room somewhere else but the air is actually pushing into that corner.”
One, there is a source. A physical source that emits the scent that the air MAY EVENTUALYY push into the corner. He’s speaking of an extreme hypothetical possibility. Saying the source is the bedspread is absurd. As absurd as your cigarette analogy in the backyard. The dog’s nose is amazing but still cannot alert to a single molecule floating in the air. If that was the case, the dog would alert to any item of clothing that had ever been present at a funeral. The body, when in that room (according to us, that is because according to you it may have never been there) was recently deceased.
Later, we will direct readers to where in the blog we have offered our explanation Grime’s words.
For now, we got what we wanted: you finally committing yourself to no residue, which renders location alerted to by dog as useless.
Presumably acceptable trolling is to accuse you of being a nonce, or TB of cottaging, without any evidence to substantiate, simply because you’re seen as the opposition?
ReplyDeleteVile.
Ben didn't accuse Tony of cottaging. I have seen Tony make many false accusations of Ben and many others though, some extremely vile.
DeleteI note defence of B against TB completely ignored nonce allegation.
DeleteAnonymous 28 Jan 2019, 13:25:00,
DeleteWe would like for you or Mr Thompson to provide links to where these insults happened. Not enough to say Mr Thompson says so, as you know, his word is worthless.
To spread rumours is to equally libellous. Mr Thompson may have not accused Mr Bennett of cottaging directly, the fact that he has promoted the rumour is paramount to making the accusation himself. And if Mr Bennett takes him to court for libel on this, we are of the opinion he would win the case.
Mr Thompson says he saw it on the internet but hasn’t said from where but we will inform you that it comes from the infamous Muratfan, so it’s quite telling Mr Thompson to be promoting something from such a vile pro.
To Mr Thompson:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/938132430501957632
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower @AndyFish19
Would that be the "research" where you lie about people being sex offenders, and more, refuse to show a scrap of evidence, then Tony denying it ever being said? Or would it be the "research" you get from pros? #PairOfLiarsTogether
11:46 am - 5 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/927924191449534464
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower
As well as accuse me of 7 other serious crimes I didn't commit? @zampos
7:42 am - 7 Nov 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/940601365352583169
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower
Jill, I'll give you nothing. You accused me of 8 crimes without a scrap of evidence. Your time to have your say will come - you can absolutely count on that. Out of curiosity, what's the name of your local paper?
7:16 am - 12 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/941312345078419457
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower @AndyFish19
No, I haven't. It's obvious that not all the tweets prior to that are in the thread. It was 8 crimes you accused me of. As I said, enjoy it whilst it lasts. You're going to wish you'd just admitted you lied, not just about me either. You're about to be finished for good.
6:22 am - 14 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/941360037737435136
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower
Caught out again eh. You won't win this. Last chance - admit you lied about 8 crimes you accused me of being guilty of. Admit Bennett did a deal with #McCann. Admit you've both stalked & harassed antis ever since. Admit u both collude with pros, or STFU and I'll show the proof.
9:31 am - 14 Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/989580988094341126
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower @zampos
If you want me to remove all my tweets with your name in, I will, once you're honest about the lies. The blog came after you falsely accused me of 8 crimes I have never committed - you then discussed where I used to live on your forum, forcing me to move house.
12:04 pm - 26 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/989059651194015744
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @zampos @QueenDPortugal
Will you publish a correction over your lies about me being Andy; your lies about me ringing you; the 8 crimes Havern falsely accused me of; your lies with regards to the holocaust, and many more? Until you do, I suggest you get off your high horse, and fuck off. #McCann
1:32 am - 25 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/989601140991053824
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower @zampos
It was a non specific turn of phrase - not a threat. Jill, you told thousands of people I was guilty of 8 crimes I've never committed, 1 of which was sexual assault, you discussed my location on ur forum & carried that on for months on end. Are we really comparing notes on this?
1:24 pm - 26 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1014936412146274305
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower
Oh, you've unblocked me. Now admit you lied about the 8 crimes you accused me of, and that you faked that IP information to frame me, whilst pretending you'd been doing it on behalf of the police for two years. You have 24 hours to fully retract all you said and apologise #McCann
11:17 am - 5 Jul 2018
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00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @zampos @DaveHallCoLtd and 2 others
Mischief? What would you describe Jill was doing when she stated, as fact, that amongst other crimes I was guilty of sexual assault? Can you answer that Mr Bennett, or will you pretend it didn't happen?
3:01 pm - 5 Jul 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1036647587984683009
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @zampos @DavidHuddo and 4 others
Before you carry on discrediting the dead. How about you and Jill apologise for falsely accusing me of 8 crimes, including me being a sex offender, and you drop the bullshit about me being Andy.
9:10 am - 3 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1049003143617544197
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @zampos
Whilst you're replying. When are you going to admit I'm not Andy, remove all your lies about me from CMoMM, including saying I called you a paedophile - which I didn't, and get Havern to admit she lied about those 8 crimes she said I was guilty of??
11:26 am - 7 Oct 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1054489236211200000
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @zampos @K9Truth @ProfilerPatB
My intolerance of Tony Bennett is due to him being a serial liar. My vitriol towards him, is down to the fact he was involved in a sick campaign whereby he stalked, and lied about me, as his pal Jill Havern incorrectly accused me of being a sex offender. http://laidbareblog.blogspot.com/2017/12/shining-light-into-dark-place.html?m=1 …
2:46 pm - 22 Oct 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1059212061773713408
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @zampos @McCannCaseTweet and 2 others
Like when you accuse me of being Andy Fish, or Havern accused me of 8 crimes I have never committed (as you well know), including being a sex offender? By the way, how's that investigation going that you lied about? Time you BOTH apologised.
2:33 pm - 4 Nov 2018
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1082714321514364928
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower @S100Maggie and 6 others
Thanks. Now, why have you removed the date on the email you claim proves an investigation is active? Without the date it proves nothing, does it. I take it the police confirmed that your vile accusations regarding the 8 crimes you accused me of were untrue, so apologise fully pls
11:03 am - 8 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1082721034405625859
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @abuseofpower @S100Maggie and 6 others
So, about the 8 crimes you stated I was guilty of. You are aware you were wrong, so where is my apology and, have you told the police who was behind the mailicious claims that have caused so many problems? Because you will be required to.
11:29 am - 8 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1073170910176296960
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
@AbuseOfPower I'll unlock my account for this, Jill. So now we know who the anonymous shit stirrer is over at textusa's. Were your disgusting lies about me being a sex offender not enough, Jill? You're being played by the very ppl you detest, textusa - Bennett and Havern! #McCann
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3:00 am - 13 Dec 2018
For Mr Thompson:
Deletehttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/22/lord-mcalpine-libel-row-sally-bercow
Lord McAlpine libel row with Sally Bercow formally settled in high court
Press Association
Tue 22 Oct 2013 12.12 BST First published on Tue 22 Oct 2013 12.12 BST
Sally Bercow has apologised for 'irresponsible use of Twitter' and agreed to pay undisclosed damages to peer, court told
Lord McAlpine's libel action against Sally Bercow has been formally settled at the high court.
Sally Bercow, who is married to the Commons Speaker John Bercow, was not at Tuesday's brief hearing before Mr Justice Tugendhat in London.
Sir Edward Garnier QC told the judge that she had apologised for her "irresponsible use of Twitter", which caused the peer great distress and embarrassment, and had agreed to pay him undisclosed damages – which had been given to charity – and his costs.
She had also undertaken never to repeat the allegations about him and had withdrawn them unreservedly.
Bercow accepted an earlier offer to settle the matter after Tugendhat's ruling in May that a tweet posed by her was highly defamatory.
Her posting appeared two days after a Newsnight report last November wrongly implicated the former Conservative Party treasurer in allegations of sex abuse at Bryn Estyn children's home in the 1970s and 1980s.
Bercow denied that the tweet – "Why is Lord McAlpine trending? *Innocent face*" – was defamatory, but McAlpine, who has already received six-figure payouts from the BBC and ITV, said it pointed the finger of blame during a media frenzy.
The judge agreed with McAlpine.
Bercow's QC, William McCormick, said: "Mrs Bercow wishes and hopes that as a result of this matter other Twitter users will behave more responsibly in how they use that platform. She certainly intends to do so herself."
Garnier said that, at the time of her tweet, Bercow had more than 56,000 followers and, as was foreseeable, a substantial number of them re-tweeted her "unsubtle message".
Afterwards, McAlpine's lawyer, Andrew Reid, said: "Today has seen closure of a piece of litigation which has now become the leading case in terms of internet responsibility.
"Our client had never wanted the situation to get to this stage. It was always his intention to avoid litigation if at all possible, just as it was always Mrs Bercow's intention, until today, not to provide an apology satisfactory to our client.
"It is to be hoped that lessons will be learned: This litigation could so easily have been avoided if common sense had prevailed over political positioning.
"In January of this year, Lord McAlpine made a 'without prejudice' offer to Mrs Bercow to settle at a substantially lower sum than his leading counsel, Sir Edward Garnier QC, advised that he was likely to obtain if the matter went to full trial.
"He made the offer in an attempt to avoid the detrimental effect of litigation on his health, but sadly, Mrs Bercow was not prepared at the relevant time to avail herself of this reasonable offer."
He added that it was now a legal requirement that, if Bercow were to re-activate her Twitter account, she must formally issue on it her apology.
You said: "Mr Thompson says he saw it on the internet but hasn’t said from where but we will inform you that it comes from the infamous Muratfan, so it’s quite telling Mr Thompson to be promoting something from such a vile pro."
DeleteExactly Textusa!
Unpublished Anonymous (as if we didn't know who you were - a hint only ONE person is interested in defending Mr Thompson, guess who?)at 28 Jan 2019, 21:18:00,
DeleteProvide links to see your comments published. Tired of your hearsay.
Mr Thompson has a very simple and straightforward technique: he tries to provoke angry reactions. Once he gets them, he plays the victim, the nice guy. He is the victim not the perpetrator. He only reacts violently because he loses control to counter the violence, that he was a victim of.
DeleteFor example, yesterday he accused a member of our team to be a nonce but then tried to end up as the nice guy: “I'm not the heartless bastard you think I am”.
To play the victim what he does is that he lies about the accusations he has been a target of.
For example, his latest accusation against us is that we have accused him to work for Jim Gamble.
In comments in this post (our caps):
“Pseudo Nym27 Jan 2019, 16:37:00
I have called you Mad Max, Bruce Swingstein, and Mario due to the silly platform games you play. If I've touched a nerve, then that's your problem. You've tried to out NT as being the vilest pro going, and you lied, YOU'VE TOLD PEOPLE I WORK FOR JIM GAMBLE, and that my friends are part of some gang that do the same, all if which is complete and utter tripe. Now fuck off, you sick piece of shit - if your new game is to make me feel guilty when you behave as you do, then you'll be very disappointed.”
And:
“Pseudo Nym27 Jan 2019, 19:28:00
Yawn. The usual troll no doubt. Good of you to admit you lie WHEN YOU SAY I WORKED FOR GAMBLE etc though, as that would be classed as personal. Would it not.”
The accusation couldn’t be clearer.
However it stems from a comment made by him in our post “The help and tennis- comments continue”
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue.html
“Textusa29 May 2018, 12:52:00
Ben Thompson: Or perhaps Textusa insinuating I was helping Jim Gamble, along with Colin Sutton.
Did you miss that one as well?”
To contextualise, then we had challenged Blacksmith and Sade Anslow who both had called us liars, to list our lies, and even gave them the idea for it to be in batches. Sade Anslow listed the only “lie” to date we have said: that NT was Walkercan1000. And Mr Thompson wrote the above.
Note that then it was an insinuation, not an accusation as now Mr Thompson distorts things to his convenience to play the victim.
From where did this insinuation – never had been an accusation – come from?
From a comment made by an Anonymous and our reply to it in our post “The help and tennis – comments continue”
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-ii.html
The comment:
“Anonymous5 May 2018, 16:48:00
How can Sonia Poulton state in her documentary that she managed to get a look at a classified document - the CEOP report, written by Jim Gamble. Who helped her get her hands on it, and what other nuggets are in it, and how does it effect the case? Strange how there's complete silence from Poulton, Ben Thompson (who seemed to have assisted in the documentary) and Sutton on this matter.”
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“Textusa5 May 2018, 17:15:00
Anonymous 5 May 2018, 16:48:00,
We want to take the opportunity and use your comment to clarify something.
As our readers remember, there was recently some tension between the blog and Ben Thompson.
We are not going to revisit that issue, however it can be interpreted as us having named Ben Thompson because of it.
This is not a game. This is not about egos. This is not who crosses imaginary lines first nor about who gets imaginary gold medals. We have said it before and will say it again, our loyalty lies only with the truth and our consciences.
Sonia Poulton names as “additional researchers” Ben Thompson and Cheryl Moncrieffe. We have mentioned only Ben Thompson because from what we were able to see, we couldn’t find any link between Cheryl Moncrieffe and the case, while about Ben it’s well known his interest in the case.
That means we don’t know in what way Cheryl could have helped Sonia, while we can make a reasonable assumption as to what extent Ben could.
It is only because of this, and only this, that we “singled out” Ben Thompson. If Cheryl Moncrieffe happened to be an admin of a Maddie related blog/FB group/forum, we would have equally named her in the comment.
The reason Ben is named is simple. We as a team share information about the case. There is information that we don’t share among team, more specifically sources who we have individually. The question we have raised we think is pertinent and easily clarified: did the research team of this video share the entirety of the information or not. If it did, then the report shown (about which we also wait conformation if it is the CEOP report or not) is included.
Any other interpretation away from this is speculation for which we are not responsible.”
Where is the insinuation/accusation made by us that Mr Thompson works for Jim Gamble?
Mr Thompson trusts that readers will not be able to check the facts or having that possibility, will not go through the effort and if we had not written this comment, the accusation that we said he worked for Jim Gamble would stand.
Easy and effective technique used by many a manipulator: complain about accusations that were never made.
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DeleteAnother example. Here he accuses us of having TOLD HIM that “Tigger was "Insane" "Walker" and "Not Textusa":
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-ambush.html
“Pseudo Nym7 Apr 2018, 22:07:00
You did claim that the Meerkat account was "Insane" "NotTextusa" and "Michael Walker" though. I contacted you privately and politely to let you know that wasn't true. Included in your patronising response was "you know fuck all".
You also told me once that Tigger was "Insane" "Walker" and "Not Textusa" as well - that was also absolutely wrong. I've spoken to Tigger as well, and they're not these people either. I assume you were confusing Tigger, with Tiger Loaf, who was the pro McCann - Paul Castello, a close friend of George Madden. Madden has, in the past, boasted of having 15 twitter accounts. If you're looking for suspects, then despite me knowing "fuck all" you might want to start there, and perhaps also look at conversations between Madden and "Wahootie"
Sorry for not falling in line and being a humble sheep, but I'm not one for worshipping others blindly. I've supported you for years, but if you're wrong am I just to sit, nod, and say "Superb piece" to everything you write? Not going to happen. I shall leave it there, and give you the last word.
Take care.”
And we asked for proof of ever having said that:
“Textusa7 Apr 2018, 22:28:00
Pseudo Nym,
WRIGHT. W-R-I-G-H-T. Not Walker. We have stated many times we believe Insane and Walkercan1000 (Michael Walker) are one and the same.
You stated we claimed he was Michael Wright.
By the way, please quote us where we have said that Tigger was Insane.
What you offered/proposed/said and what I answered and why is private so we, as we said, won't comment.”
No quote was shown. There couldn’t have been because we don’t think Tigger is any of the characters he mentioned.
Yet, he said that we told him. If we had not challenged it would have passed. Mr Thompson, as usual, was lying.
So, the next time you read Mr Thompson whimpering that he has been mistreated, that he is the one who is the victim and not the perpetrator and poor him is only reacting, take it with lots of salt and don’t fall for the act. Because it’s just an act.
We would really like to see the proof Mr Thompson has of people having accused him of being a sex offender. He may have it but until we do see it, it falls under a Thompson’s “Boohoo, Textusa is accusing me of working for Jim Gamble, sniff, sniff…” kind of accusation.
About the Martin Grime paragraph quoted above by Mr Thompson, we would like the readers to revisit the following comments by us in the “The help and the tennis – comments continue IV”
ReplyDeletehttps://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html
The comments:
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570723812#c3129814539986064204
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570766991#c436090333118815860
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570799437#c7358094441578667279
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570830896#c741535636988962152
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570851573#c1305172484809305535
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570873409#c8222946027752110559
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570897962#c4665768074342886520
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570918472#c6137476689690823057
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570939681#c8877651997130617794
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570964425#c8497636412164866333
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528570996669#c4790812494172445328
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-help-and-tennis-comments-continue-iv.html?showComment=1528571025503#c1425809798473860980
"Maria: Not for publication please" identified readers at 29 Jan 2019, 00:17:00,
ReplyDeleteWe are certain you will be the first one to understand that we cannot say anything about your comment. Thank you for the information.
One has to give it to this dog-disser, he is tireless. It’s as if he’s a stakeholder in this:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1089922820149252096
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @strackers74 @Care15156 @TheBunnyReturns
And without that absolute identification, a court/judge/jury is left also having to accept that a laboratory could not prove beyond reasonable doubt what those cells were from ... so leaving doubt.
8:27 am - 28 Jan 2019
[A PROVEN FACT by the Portuguese courts that it is blood means that it has stood the test of “beyond reasonable doubt” and yet this wolf shamelessly in sheep’s clothing keeps trying to push the idea that it isn't a PROVEN FACT]
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1089941951137366016
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @strackers74 @Care15156 @TheBunnyReturns
I think sticking with Keela alerted, indicating blood, but not confirmed or disproven in laboratory tests. I repeat, I believe both Keela and Eddie alerted as trained.
9:43 am - 28 Jan 2019
[Yeah, yeah and yeah… he believes in the dogs BUT… they're useless, sorry, folks. He's so, so sorry that the dogs are useless but that's what he says they are, so chin up but do move along...]
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1089967933315563522
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @strackers74 @Care15156 @TheBunnyReturns
No semantics involved. Without the scientific proof of blood (or not) no-one can say categorically that it was, to the satisfaction of a court, for instance. No shades of grey in that position. We can believe it was, however. #Mccann
11:26 am - 28 Jan 2019
[Yes, SOMEONE “can say categorically that it was” and that someone has categorically said so, and JBLittlemore knows this very well because he has said that he doesn't care what the PT courts say. Unfortunately for him, it can also be categorically said that the Portuguese courts have absolute jurisdiction over this case]
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JBLittlemore,
Exactly, there are “no shades of grey” in the position that it has been legally proven where it legally matters that it was blood that was found in apartment 5A no matter how much grey you try to obfuscate people with. Give it up.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090269821193773064
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @CarlaSpade
Unblocked because I am fed up with your attacks & the nonsense you support & espouse. How about you tell me & everyone else here by which scientific test the PT courts had it proven a few cells were definitely blood? What do I 'pretend'? Look up 'gaslighting' dear. #Mccann
7:25 am - 29 Jan 2019
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JBLittlemore is clearly a man of science having a difficult time to grasp the concept of “proven”. Let’s see what the Merriam-Webster says what “prove” is:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prove
Definition of prove
transitive verb
1 archaic : to learn or find out by experience
2a : to test the truth, validity, or genuineness of
b : to test the worth or quality of
specifically : to compare against a standard —sometimes used with up or out
c : to check the correctness of (something, such as an arithmetic result)
3 a : to establish the existence, truth, or validity of (as by evidence or logic)
b : to demonstrate as having a particular quality or worth the vaccine has been proven effective after years of tests proved herself a great actress
4 : to show (oneself) to be worthy or capable
: to turn out especially after trial or test
There it is. We thought JBL was an English-speaker. If he is, then he has a major difficulty with one of the language’s simplest words.
So there’s no doubt we will repeat what is said above (our caps): “to establish the existence, truth, or validity of (as by evidence or LOGIC)”.
So what ‘s the “which scientific test the PT courts had it PROVEN a few cells were definitely blood” (our caps) we would call it, not being scientists, the human brain test.
The human brains who wrote all the laws that compose the judiciary system of a foreign nations, and who included in it something called courts.
The human brains who decided to give the power to judges to make legal decisions.
The human brains that educated the judges and who decided that they had the required qualifications to make the decisions they made.
And lastly the human brain of the judges who made their decisions.
For example, the legal, legitimate and sovereign decision that it was PROVEN that blood was found in apartment 5A.
You find the Portuguese justice system primitive, even Neanderthal? It’s your right and our right to judge you on finding that but either judgement, ours and yours, have no legal value. On the contrary, decision that it was PROVEN that blood was found in apartment 5A has undisputed legal value because it has been validated by the highest court of the country outside constitutional matters.
It must be said that the opinion of an English speaker who doesn’t know the meaning of the word “PROVEN” is not exactly relevant.
Have we been scientific enough?
Now, it’s your turn.
Funny thing, the word PROVEN in this context is exclusively a legal one. For example, and just for the sake of argument, the FSS could have stated it was PROVED it was blood but if the defence could provide a different set of results that it was NOT PROVED from another much more credible laboratory and convince the judge that these were much more reliable, then the PROVED from the FSS would be legally meaningless.
Legally, PROVED is in a court of law not in any laboratory.
And because we are talking legally here and not scientifically, what are your legal qualifications to say that the decision made by the PT courts was wrong?
Lastly, what are your legal qualifications that make you a better lawyer than all those who made up the McCann legal team, because they have accepted the legal, legitimate and sovereign decision that it was PROVEN that blood was found in apartment 5A, a decision that can no longer be contested?
Will be waiting for your answer. Yes, you can continue to pretend you don’t read the blog.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1089649656211140608
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
J B Littlemore Retweeted J B Littlemore
So it has to be said that if the FSS, using multiple complex repeat testing on a sample, could not be definitive about the exact cell source then who knows better? #Mccann
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1089647882020495360
2:21 pm - 27 Jan 2019
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JBlittlemore,
Could you please explain how do you know the FSS used “multiple complex repeat testing on a sample”? Were you there to see and count?
Look at who is supporting JBLittlemore:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1090302923723010048
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Who is @JBLittlemore ???
A fountain of knowledge on Madeleine #mccann
Why are #McCann PR team AFRAID and target JBL?
Because it’s EXPOSING McCanns “shortcomings”
Knowledge is power!!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1090302923723010048
9:37 am - 29 Jan 2019
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Of course the McCanns are TERRIFIED that it would be possible to not be a PROVEN fact that blood was found in apartment 5A! They can’t sleep at night just thinking about that!!
Has McFadded shared her messages from the FSS staff with JBLIttlemore? Is that why he knows so much about how the FSS worked in this case?
Oh, by the way… is there no feedback from that letter sent to the PJ with these messages?
https://twitter.com/SadeElisha86/status/1090317390431301633
Delete00Sade 🕵️♀️ @SadeElisha86
Replying to @jules999x @CarlaSpade @JBLittlemore
What I imagine a *criminal* defence lawyer would say to Carla's picture (complete with arrows 🤔) is:
Only for the benefit of the civil case, to determine Amaral's 'right' to repeat information from the investigation, are those facts - quote - "considered" proven. #McCann
10:34 am - 29 Jan 2019
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So now we are supposed to have legally “civil facts” and “criminal facts”! And a fact may be a civil fact but not a criminal fact. Or as Rudy Giuliani said “truth isn’t truth!”
And he continues, and continues, and continues, and continues…
Deletehttps://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090329221203927042
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @CarlaSpade
Oh! You hid until I was gone! ; ) Keela alerts to blood - agreed. I do not 'diss the dogs' (such childish playground babble, dear) If it was BLOOD, how will it be proven to the defence demands for proof that it was? Legal brains 'knew'? Go on - EXPLAIN! 1/2 #Mccann
11:21 am - 29 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090330250939109381
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @CarlaSpade
2/2 I'd lay money the document is confirming the dogs ALERTED (to blood and cadaver) as in the act. As M Grime clarified, without corroboration this is not PROOF of the crime/source/blood/cadaver or - as a defence will allege - something else entirely, #Mccann
11:26 am - 29 Jan 2019
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Now, Martin Grime’s words weigh more in the PT courts than their own acórdãos! Wow!
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090350563609456641
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @CarlaSpade
I'm anything BUT a pro #Mccann dear. Best you get your head round that sooner than later.
What evidence did the PT SC view that told them, beyond reasonable doubt, that it was blood?
REASONABLE being the important qualification & what courts depend on in criminal cases? #Mccann
12:46 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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JBLittlemore the pro continues to think he knows better than the PT courts… and the McCann legal team.
The McCann legal team was really incompetent. The 1st instance court published the PROVEN and NOT PROVEN facts before its acórdão to allow for them to be challenged by either side. No side challenged the PROVEN facts about the dogs.
https://twitter.com/AguiaV/status/1090369500002824194
DeleteCarolina @AguiaV
Replying to @JBLittlemore @CarlaSpade @Andreamariapre2
A trial would be in Portugal.
2:02 pm - 29 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090370847599222785
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @AguiaV @CarlaSpade @Andreamariapre2
Agreed. In view of Section 9 legislation it could also be in UK. Either way the alerts would need to be demonstrated as proving the case and also that they are beyond any reasonable doubt.
2:07 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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Carolina,
What for? According to JBLittlemore, in Portugal the courts are made up of a complete set of incompetent idiots as per his words in his reply: “the alerts would need to be demonstrated as proving the case and also that they are beyond any reasonable doubt.”. They have been.
JBLittlemore,
No, Section 9 VERY CLEARLY states that is not so. Such a trial would invalidate a trial in Portugal and that would be illegal according to Section 9. Yes, we now your English is very poor…
https://twitter.com/Andreamariapre2/status/1090365765155467264
DeleteAndrea maria preston @Andreamariapre2
Replying to @JBLittlemore @CarlaSpade
#McCann Keela and Grimes knew it was blood. Grimes trained Keela'daily' for years to only alert to human blood.
1:47 pm - 29 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090366235777425408
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Andreamariapre2 @CarlaSpade
Agreed. I don't doubt it. But ask the man on the street to believe it, the immediate response is - but how do you know that's what they alerted to? Or - surely it could have been meat, being dogs..? (I've tried it out ; )) #Mccann
1:49 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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Why have judges? Let’s just let the man on the street judge!
https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/thumb/3/3f/Calvin_rofl.jpg/300px-Calvin_rofl.jpg
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090365427354685440
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
You two demonstrate the obsessional & paranoid suspicions on that blog site. I know you & your dear Textusa are desperate to suggest I am John Lowe, defending my reports. As if I'd be on here if I was? Not allowed.
So you work out, common sense only, how I know.. ; ) #Mccann
1:45 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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Everyone on Twitter: please scan and publish the permission from your employer giving your permission to use Twitter. Failing to do so will mean… erm… nothing?
Note, we have not accused JBLittlemore of being anyone. Nor are we accusing or implying. We have said that we think he’s someone. Who that person is, we will keep it to ourselves, as we have said.
But couldn’t resist publishing the above, it just shows JBLIttlemore’s school of reasoning.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090375416588759040
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @CarlaSpade
Again you can't answer. You are showing yourself up more & more, every tweet. Why can't you understand what PT judges meant? This was not a trial at which the evidence was TESTED. The alerts would be TESTED. Those few cells would have to be subject to scrutiny & PASS. #Mccann
2:25 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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We thought you couldn’t care less as to what the PT courts said!!! Want a quote from you on that?
What the PT judges meant: PROVED. All the way up to the Portuguese Supreme Justice Court.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090376417899171840
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @CarlaSpade
The only person exposing their weak underbelly at present is you, Carla. You are proving you don't know anything about how the court processes would work in the event of a trial where there is little to no corroborating evidence to support alerts. SO ANSWER? #Mccann
2:29 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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In the event of a trial? You mean the one that HAS ALREADY happened? Because if the McCanns are to be prosecuted in Portugal, as we hope they are and you are doing all you can to derail, that issue will not be debated. It has been PROVEN. It’s a FACT.
https://twitter.com/mrjnh07/status/1090380923768631301
DeleteCardinal James @mrjnh07
Replying to @PollyGraph69
Portuguese Supreme Court held as fact, that blood was signalled by top class CSI dog Keela, within the #McCann apartment - please note, confirmed FACT.
2:47 pm - 29 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1090381509117337602
0Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @mrjnh07 @PollyGraph69
Whose blood, James? Did they call upon expert witnesses? Was it a criminal case? Do you know what the judge actually said regarding discussion of the dogs? Clearly not. #McCann
2:49 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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Mr Thompson going against JBL and recognising explicitly that it was blood!!
Bad form, old chap, very bad form!
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090382416152276996
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @AguiaV @CarlaSpade @Andreamariapre2
Sorry - I should have included the explanation of Section 9 and how it would work, whereby UK could investigate (is) & charge etc., but only after/without taking away the rights of PT first. #Mccann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyHQ61gXQAEoAgl.jpg
2:53 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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JBLittlemore showing he can read after all. A pity he doesn’t credit the blog (yes, he does monitor it closely) because before we wrote about this, he said it was possible.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090553742670393345
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
You need to understand the difference between civil and criminal court criteria of proof. There has been no criminal case yet. So can you explain how the judges proved, beyond reasonable doubt, that those few cells were blood (clue - microscope needed to start ..)
2:14 am - 30 Jan 2019
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A broken record. But he does try. No, FACT is a FACT (by the way you are citing a British thing, the criteria of proof between criminal and civil cases).
That’s why it’s written proven and not proven FACTS. It you read the extensive list, most of them were not used, because the judge deemed these not used PROVEN FACTS not relevant to her decision.
Now, a FACT has (or not) legal consequences. A FACT may implicate criminal charges and another FACT only implicate civil charges. Both are FACTS nothing but FACT. Proven or not proven.
Let’s give an example. Man A hits Man B over the head with a stick because of the boundaries of a wall between their properties.
There are 2 different cases here: the criminal, assault, hitting with a stick; civil, the boundaries question.
If the civil trial takes place before the criminal one and the judge sees necessary to conclude the criminal FACT, assault, as proved, then it will be considered proved for the legal system.
One cannot argue in Portugal that something that has been proven in one court not be proven in another. In the criminal court the defense may argue the intent, and even damage of Man B being hit with said stick and it they may even be able to argue that it was not assault. The PROVEN FACT remains intact: Man A hit Man B with a stick.
So this is right:
https://twitter.com/mcstravick_mac/status/1090554526971691008
Marykate @mcstravick_mac
Replying to @JBLittlemore @CarlaSpade
Am I wrong in saying that the Portuguese Supreme Court said this was proven.......if I’m right why would an anti be doing the job of a pro and demand further proof
2:17 am - 30 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090555797942292480
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Replying to @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
Then I am asking how was it proven to them? It was in regard to a civil matter which means they work on 'balance of probability' (ergo it was almost certainly blood that Keela alerted to) but in a criminal court the absolute proof, beyond reasonable doubt, is required. SO?
2:22 am - 30 Jan 2019
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JBLittlemore,
You only have to write to the McCann legal team and ask them why they didn’t challenge that. Evidently they know less about law and evidence in court than you do, and even though it’s too late and nothing can be done about it, the McCanns may get a rebate for incompetence.
But can venture you a hypothesis. The judge read the Grime report and concluded that it was logical enough to consider PROVED that blood, and no other substance was found in apartment 5A.
You don’t like it? Tough luck. Her decision is LEGAL, LEGITIMATE and SOVEREIGN.
Then she read the FSS report to see if it was determined to whom the blood found belonged. As you know, the FSS that you so much praise and has been ridiculed for 12 years, did not determine that. So, based on the scientific evidence put before her, she considered it wasn’t enough to consider that proved.
So, blood proved. To whom the blood belonged to, not proved.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090558074732101632
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
The court supplied satisfaction that the dogs had alerted as required. By civil court standards & knowledge of the dogs' abilities, that is - on balance of probabilities - taken as proven. Criminal courts would demand scientific results - where are they?
2:31 am - 30 Jan 2019
Correct the above from the racist JBLittlemore:
By BRITISH civil court standards & knowledge of the dogs' abilities, that is - on balance of probabilities - taken as proven. BRITISH Criminal courts would demand scientific results.
in Portugal as it’s an inquisitorial system and not adversarial as in U.K.
To those waiting for Mr Thompson’s reply, this is what is there up to now:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/TheBunnyReturns/status/1090267357014945793
00Bugsy @TheBunnyReturns
Replying to @jules1602x @JBLittlemore and 2 others
Haha! Welcome back, how was the pampas convention?
I'll have a look over there at the weekend, if I can be arsed. No doubt he's raging at me for pointing out facts, is desperately writing reams of total nonsense to hide his inadequacies, or is back to stalking again.
7:16 am - 29 Jan 2019
Now look at who is promoting NT’s new post, the timing of which could not be more obvious and transparent, Silverdoe:
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1090199856168222722
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC#blockshills @xxSiLverdoexx
Well done and well explained 👏👏👏👏https://nottextusa.blogspot.com/2019/01/a-very-very-brief-moment-in-time.html?m=1 … #mccann #MMJC
2:47 am - 29 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1090228560227434501
SheLLxx💯 #MMJC#blockshills @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @Tealtraum
I thoroughly enjoyed it :) Definitely gold!
4:41 AM - 29 Jan 2019
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After his latest post “Attention-seeking missile” on Nov 28, two months later, and by sheer coincidence after Mr Thompson performance in the blog on Sunday, NT publishes a hollow, empty post that even by his standards is cringeworthy.
The gang clearly behaving as a gang. NT coming to Mr Thompson’s rescue and the rest clapping like a heard of seals in some zoo marine show.
This is a sample:
“Let's say people started to gather on the beach from 8am and the beach emptied from around 8pm, as the light started to fail. That's 12 hours during which one would expect people to be milling about on the beach.
A single image captures 1/172,800,000th of that day.
As do the images supposedly showing ''no searching'' going on
As do the images showing less activity than Textusa's shrivelled brain thinks should be happening”
According to NT, the beach was crowded BUT in that exact 1/172,800,000th of the day they all decided to dive under the sand, put their heads under the water, hide behind the trees and houses! Wow, that is one extraordinary choreography.
And people like @TheBunnyReturns, @JBLittlemore, @AndyFish19, @The_Truth_II and “1 user has asked not to be shown in this view” which judging by the Silverdoe’s tweet above is @Tealtraum, clap their flippers, sorry, hands.
But it’s who is promoting this is what is fascinating. Do readers remember when NT was first promoted on Justice FB? It was all pomp and circumstance the Mr Thompson, Sade and Jules doing the honours by blowing the trumpets as the doors opened.
Then it stopped, We remember we had to remind them to promote NT! It was downgraded to being Sade with that task. With time, it was downgraded again and became Jules’ responsibility to do that. Now it’s Silverdoe.
Silverdoe, a person who has said this:
“Shall we add some more pictures of why they [Textusa] claim no PJ were around looking on the 4th (Not adding the logic of course that 1 - They are a small unit and not like a metropolitan town and 2 -The press perhaps were spaced out also?)”
We won’t even bother asking for a quote. We will just ask for some kind soul near Silverdoe to tell her that if someone told her the PJ were searching for Maddie that someone was lying to her.
The PJ has no responsibility to search. The PJ investigates.
By the way, no sign of this post on Justice FB. NT is doubly administrator there (as NT – No Timewasters with 366 likes and as Not Textusa – Balancing the books with 232 likes). Strange, isn’t it?
From "FB Anon":
Delete"I see NT has popped up & dusted off his red pen to write a post on his blog re the aerial photo of PdL taken by Rex. Does he really expect people to believe that just out of shot, and a nano second earlier or later, there was all the activity on the beach with people searching for Maddie? Also the boats and equipment used by the crèche kids, Matt & Russ, but for some reason the professional photographers working for Rex decided to take a photo of.......nothing??"
Btw NT doesn't mention the helicopter shots which give uninterrupted footage of the ghost town of PDL.
DeleteAnonymous 29 Jan 2019, 21:10:00,
DeleteNor about the various Getty/Sky News video clips. No 'nano seconds' involved there.
The high tide / low tide argument is quite funny. It was a known fact that Paraíso ordered their clients out every high tide because the sea covered the esplanade, and on some days, it went all the way up to the Ocean Club reception. Rumours say that once it even reached Lisbon!
Any wonder the place seems deserted - they'd all taken to the 'boats' and were 5 miles out at sea!
Deletehttps://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1090377260333436929
DeleteSheLLxx 💯 #MMJC#blockshills @xxSiLverdoexx
SheLLxx 💯#MMJC#blockshills Retweeted SheLLxx 💯#MMJC#blockshills
If ANYONE can decipher this I'd be most grateful! #mccann
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1090368400206032897
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1090368400206032897
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC#blockshills @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @EricaCantona7
I'm still trying to work this one out, for the life of me I can't......
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyHENQ4XcAEJTmp.jpg
1:57 pm - 29 Jan 2019
[The picture attached has an extract from our comment at 29 Jan 2019, 19:08:00:
““Shall we add some more pictures of why they [Textusa] claim no PJ were around looking on the 4th (Not adding the logic of course that 1 - They are a small unit and not like a metropolitan town and 2 -The press perhaps were spaced out also?)”
We won’t even bother asking for a quote. We will just ask for some kind soul near Silverdoe to tell her that if someone told her the PJ were searching for Maddie that someone was lying to her.
The PJ has no responsibility to search. The PJ investigates.”
Silverdoe has underlined this:
“The PJ has no responsibility to search. The PJ investigates.”]
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https://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/b0/a2/b0a251_1211990.gif
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1090379661622890496
DeleteSheLLxx 💯 #MMJC#blockshills @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @MrSelfdestructU
In Portugal at that time? None. But this ''Fake blogger'' claims the PJ weren't required to search for Madeleine just investigate, and I am trying to work out what the difference is? It was regarding the 4th the first full day Madeleine went missing...
2:42 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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This is priceless! And this person is said by her “peers” to be a brilliant researcher!
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1090421727107211266
DeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @MrSelfdestructU
Tex is both right & wrong. The GNR (foot-soldiers) were responsible for most of the searching, PJ were conducting door-to-door inquiries ( which is a form of searching) & taking witness statements.
5:29 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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Et tu, Frog??? A “form of searching”? Really? What, a 10% search while investigating? 20%? 30%?
Unpublished Anonymous at 29 Jan 2019, 14:05:00,
ReplyDeleteI (note, not we) am not publishing your comment not because I’m in any way scared to reveal its content but because by keeping it to myself, it gives me the opportunity to talk directly to you and only you and I know what you wrote.
And when you wrote what you wrote, you made a huge mistake: you identified yourself. I know exactly who I’m speaking to. Exactly. You submitted your comment as Anon but denounced yourself completely.
And your comment explains a lot. It really does and I must thank you for that.
Rest assured that you can continue with what you have done because I pride myself in never breaching private conversations and if I ever fail, I’ll be the first to shame myself.
All I need to know is that you know I know. That alone satisfies me. By the way, in 2015 I was warned against you. Gave you the benefit of the doubt and defended you. Not saying this to play the victim but recognising that then I was wrong and that person was totally right.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090379089951764482
ReplyDeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @CarlaSpade
Cries of PROVE it will come from those who want proper justice against correct perpetrators for the revealed crime. Prove it was blood & how it nails whoever (after you've peeled away 600+ swingers all in the cover up! Surprised you could see anything through them!) #Mccann
2:40 pm - 29 Jan 2019
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 @jules999x @CarlaSpade
I never said repeat tests ... #Mccann Why does it worry you so? Why are you & yours so paranoid about who others are or what they might know? After all, you are all so sure it was swinging, 600 + keeping a dirty secret to deny M justice... makes sense? No!
4:38 pm - 29 Jan 2019
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Glad to know JBLittlemore agrees with that it was 600+ swingers.
But most of all agree that swinging is a “dirty secret”.
https://www.change.org/p/luis-neves-judiciaria-national-director-investigate-the-mccanns
ReplyDeleteSays 828 have signed but on looking at signatures, there don’t seem to be as many as that. It’s interesting to see who haven’t signed yet!
Apparently all personal information (your addresses) garnered in that petition goes to the petition creator, i.e. Isabelle McFadden who is bezzie mates with Ben Thompson. Do you really want your personal info to be seen by him, knowing what a stalker he is? Isabelle must know that the PJ will take no notice of the petition so what is the real purpose of her creating it, especially when better ones have been created that have also had no effect?
DeleteBen Thompson's fb group has got 37k members so why haven't they all signed the petition? Has he really got that many 'real' members? Also the AbScam group has got almost as many members, so why haven't they all signed aswell? And what about all the many thousands of twitter followers Isabelle claims to have? Why haven't they all signed it? What this petition shows is that maybe Ben and Isabelle haven't really got as many 'real' members and followers as they claim. They have the potential to have one of the biggest petitions ever, let's wait and see how many people really sign it!
DeleteBen does have a small nucleus of real members on FB. They are the remnants of FB users he harvested from other groups he deliberately disrupted in the past. Most of his members are botted nowadays though and don't even know they're in his group.
DeleteThe vast majority of Isabelle McFadden's followers on Twitter are automated. If you can be bothered to take the time, you can prove this by a simple experiment. Set up a new account and follow all the followback trucks on Twitter, go back to the account after 10 days, then go to Isabelle's account. Click on her followers, then click on 'followers you know'. You will see many of her followers are the same as the ones your new account has.
DeleteI was admin at Justice when the numbers grew at huge speed (I'm not now). This was because of several posts going viral at a time when there were searches taking place in Portugal. At the time we took in 20,000 members in just two weeks. There was no harvesting or disruption anywhere else. If the person above thinks differently, could they show proof?
DeleteThese comments appear to be from people intent on causing trouble, I'm disappointed to see them being entertained tbh. xx
Whatever the reasons, McFadden’s petition is not commanding the response which would be expected from groups claiming such a vast membership. Many of those who claim to be her close supporters haven’t yet signed.
DeleteIt’s either a matter of trust about her harvesting personal details, people regarding the petition as pointless or lack of supporters.
Anonymous30 Jan 2019, 12:27:00,
ReplyDeleteI agree the petition is pointless. Look at how many has Tony Bennett has started over the years, and how much stick he's taken for it. I thought McFadden's numerous conversations with the PJ's top officers had given her faith that they were "onto McCanns" :) The whole idea of petitioning them to investigate McCanns is ridiculous, unless she really thinks that they haven't already thought of that? In my opinion the petition is just a popularity contest so that McFadden can turn around and say "Look how many signatures I got! Look at how popular I am!"
Anonymous30 Jan 2019, 12:15:00
Yes isn't it strange that so few of the hundreds of signers have bothered to leave a comment?
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090667615029248001
ReplyDeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
Why did the Tapas bar sell tapas & have the storm curtains down in May? Why even advertise inclusive holidays with meals at a couple of eateries - because May is rubbish?
9:46 am - 30 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090612443112505345
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
It was May - pedantic I know. They were in a bar with storm curtains down, so providing some shelter from wind etc, apparently wearing fleeces etc. Others were there too. So you wouldn't. No-one else there or here is you. #Mccann
6:07 am - 30 Jan 2019
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Storm curtains???? What storm curtains???
You mean the plastic tarpaulins? Those they are ALWAYS up to face the May, June, July, August, September and November frequent storms that hit Luz frequently??
Show me ONE SINGLE picture where the tarpaulins are not down at Tapas.
And do these tarpaulins cover ANY storm if the esplanade continues to be open on both ends? Not both ends but on all ends except the one closed by them! The air flows freely inside the esplanade and in April/early May would freeze off anyone sitting there.
Please don’t say that until proven otherwise by some forensic report you will refuse to accept that the wind in Luz (which is quite a windy place and that’s why the region is called Barlavento Algarvio) only blows from North to South and in no other direction.
And people would queue up to have dinner in a restaurant defending itself against storms and doing a very job doing that? Really?
Do you think before you write?
JBLittlemore was warned about this comment and this is what he had to say:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1090688595634073606
Jules ♡ @jules999xReplying to @JBLittlemore @Anvil161Anvil16 and 2 others
Quite.. :) Now the blog is running it's gums about tarpaulins.. 😂#GiveMeStrength
11:09 am - 30 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090691048228175872
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules999x @Anvil161Anvil16 and 2 others
Why? What have they got to do with anything?
11:19 am - 30 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/jules999x/status/1090692716781031430
Jules ♡ @jules999x
Replying to @JBLittlemore @Anvil161Anvil16 and 2 others
I've no idea.. I couldn't be arsed to read it all.. I see you and Shell are highlight of the week though.. #Infamy 😎
11:26 am - 30 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090693452042510336
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules999x @Anvil161Anvil16 and 2 others
Infamy, Infamy! Textusa & co have all got it infamy! ; )
11:29 am - 30 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1090958301309874176
DeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
For You Know Who. A VERY important photo showing "missing" storm curtains. #mccann
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyPcvixWkAEzfuB.jpg
5:01 am - 31 Jan 2019
[Attached is a photo copied from our post “The proof Ocean Club reads Textusa”
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-proof-ocean-club-reads-textusa.html
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SEHhbbBv-_Q/Uxt05Y4C3-I/AAAAAAAAH2c/WH9nR6d1lEs/s1600/Promo+11.jpg]
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1090975103154880512
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @EricaCantona7
Tex said the storm curtains were always down, spring or summer. Official MW brochure pic shows otherwise. Wish there was a time machine tho.....
6:08 am - 31 Jan 2019
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Frog,
You are certainly familiar with the Portuguese expression “a excepção confirma a regra?”
Portugal a country so much belittled by JBLittlemore…
But in this case it’s not even an exception. It’s a nothing. As you recognise it, it comes from an “Official MW brochure”. As if MW would show put tarpaulins down in a promotional brochure...
The idea is to sell, to show the pool and the esplanade. It’s called marketing.
Even in promotional pics, the tarpaulins are down:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RV8Pi37jHAo/UxuDN0jgYgI/AAAAAAAAH3Q/AEul5gXM3n8/s1600/Promo+MW+family.jpg
Does it look like a storm is coming above?
What we want is a non-advertisement picture showing a the taurpalins up.
But do you want an exception to the rule? Here it is
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bnlZqh7UY9g/VAlfsMzf0aI/AAAAAAAAJkM/uyA1xt75BDU/s1600/Tapas%2BSky%2B2.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-POcpnLdOgm0/VAllKf8OF2I/AAAAAAAAJkc/78oAvmER6SM/s1600/BRT.jpg
From our post “The clarifying report”:
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2014/09/sky-news-clarifying-report.html
They are screengrabs from this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MKhjjeOkmo&feature=youtu.be
Part of the campaign that ended up with Brenda Leyland taking her life.
Everyone knows that the tarpaulins are always down. When I was there, they down, when my friend was there, they were always down, when the furniture is put away for winter, they remain down as Marti Brunt showed that very clearly:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GgKMxLW4mP4/UJwp6wpIsrI/AAAAAAAADvs/AxyKE9TXlZ8/s400/brunt6.JPG
But, Frog, have you noted what is common in all the pictures shown in this comment, including yours?
There’s no BRT.
So, according to your logic, you agree there was no BRT.
By the way, nice to see you align yourself with JBLittlemore’s pathetic “storm curtains” terminology.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090765954169167872
ReplyDeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @Anvil161Anvil16 and 2 others
If you look closely you'll notice they vanish a bit when asked - repeatedly - to provide proof of their allegations & theories. Maybe, rather than be asked again, they change subject? So now it's NT. Who knows... ; )
4:17 pm - 30 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/xxSiLverdoexx/status/1090767676576804867
SheLLxx 💯 #MMJC#blockshills @xxSiLverdoexx
Replying to @JBLittlemore @Anvil161Anvil16 and 2 others
lol yes when I asked them to provide proof of a BRT before the 4th from inside the tapas? They tried to deflect with the Hynds stuff :) They'll go back to high tide next, then the skirtings, the boats then the dogs then. You've handled them all with more patience than I would!
4:24 pm - 30 Jan 2019
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What proof have you asked that we haven’t given you? All you have you asked is IF a court would accept or not dog evidence without a forensic report backing them up. Is that asking for proof of anything?
What proof of what do you want? Ask.
If you are going to be boring enough about “proof of swinging”, to which Anne Guedes has already said there would be none available, please tell us what would you consider would be the proof of swinging that you would expect to find and that you can turn to us and say “I would expect this, this, and this and as you haven’t proven that this, this, and this happened your swinging theory is baseless”.
So Silverdoe has seen the question about the Hynds, only won’t answer it.
Now we’ll see who vanishes “a bit when asked – repeatedly”.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090933086748061696
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @xxSiLverdoexx @EricaCantona7 and 3 others
Carla's extreme behaviour on here is concerning.
She is clearly ONLY concerned with her crazy theory and defending it by abusing others. She's blocked. The other two will join her. #Mccann
3:21 am - 31 Jan 2019
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Oh, isn’t blocking the Twitter version of “I’m vanishing”?
From "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"From NT"S latest post: "One interesting aspect recently is Textusa's attempts to shift blame away from the McCanns. What he is attempting to do is minimise their role in Madeleine's disappearance by introducing an entire cast of characters to shoulder the blame - the staff, the mysterious unnamed VIPs, the local residents, the ex-pats. Running through it is an undercurrent of finding someone else to blame, rather than the people responsible." In this comment from NT, he has summed up the difference between Textusa and Not Textusa. NT believes that due to the McCann's negligence, Madeleine DISAPPEARED (no death mentioned) and that the McCanns acted completely independently. He believes that there is no cover up, no government involvement, that Martin Brunt is completely unbiased in his reporting (NT has obviously failed to read the transcript of the call between Brunt and Murat where Brunt offers Murat the use of Sky's lawyers and desires the situation in PdL as "sensitive"). NT believes that the staff at The Ocean Club have all been completely truthful, that the Tapas booking sheets are genuine, that Madeleine Mccann really did have a coloboma and that The Last Photo is genuine as well. This is what him and the rest of his gang are desperate to promote. I don't know why he suggests Textusa's stance is recent as from what I can see, this has been the blog's position for years."
From "FB Anon" just now:
Delete"You could always sign off my comment ‘from Menopausal Dingbat no1’ 😅😅😅"
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FB Anon,
Insults from the mouth of the disgusting soulless do really feel like praise, don't they? :)
FB Anon,
Delete2010 is VERY RECENT when compared with when the pyramids were built.
This is the post when I started to publicly announce my position that the hoax was made up mainly by those outside the T9.
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/11/holiday-time.html
The Paraíso pictures showed very clearly there was no BRT.
Don't you mean "our position"? I thought this blog was written by three sisters? ROTFL
DeleteAnonymous 31 Jan 2019, 14:59:00,
DeleteHow long do you need to laugh all you have to laugh about this?
It's now been over 3 hours... shall we give you a couple more hours so that you do laugh ALL? Because we won't you to swallow ALL your laughter. Every little drop.
Oh it's "we" again now is it. Did you send Fred out to find your other two sibllings? How many people have you invented now. Carla, two sisters, Fred, Maria.....did I forget anyone? And you expect to be taken seriously! Looòol
DeleteOh, 5 hours is not enough... ok, WE will reply only tomorrow. WE do hope you can take a break from laughing so much and get some sleep.
DeleteTalk tomorrow.
Anonymous 31 Jan 2019, 14:59:00, 31 Jan 2019, 18:39:00
DeleteHave you laughed all you had to laugh? Really, really all? WE hope you have.
Only an idiot would make a comment like yours in the same post where I made the point in establishing the differences between ME and TEAM, in our comment at 29 Jan 2019, 19:26:00: “I (note, not we) am not publishing your comment not because…”
So I showed very clearly, in this very post, that the blog uses “I” and “WE” depending on circumstances and context.
By the way, then, you didn’t react, why?
On FB, where I went against the will of the other 2 team members (we came to an agreement that I could go on FB as long as the blog didn’t touch Twitter), it is I and not WE. And as the many people who I’ve talked to on FB know, what I talk privately there does NOT get passed on to team without me getting permission first.
That’s why, people like Mr Thompson have said publicly (only one other person said the same privately and I won’t say the name other than to say that Mr Thompson does really hit jackpot when it comes to the people he chooses to align with against us) that the team is a figment of MY imagination.
The blog is currently made up of 3 people. It has been like that since January 2011. Before that there wasn’t a team. To speak of WE of things when there wasn’t a WE would be to share your level of stupidity.
The first post published after team was set up “Hobie or not to be? That is the question”
https://textusa.blogspot.com/2011/01/hobie-or-not-to-be-that-is-question.html
WE recommend you read it as it’s about the Matt and Russ watersports, so very timely.
The first comment on that post was MINE:
“Textusa11 Jan 2011, 23:36:00
Well done, Sina J! And thank you!
A lot of food for thought here. I hope NOW people start to understand why I told them to LOOK again at the Paraiso pictures. So, so much information there. You speak of one that I didn't see: the bags. Wetsuits, especially when they're wet, and even when they're not, are rather big volume to transport, aren't they? THAT detail had escaped me, and does say so much...
Welcome aboard my friend, and congratulations!”
And so, THEN, the team began. The blog stopped expressing MY opinion to express OUR opinion. And it’s been like that for the past 7 years.
So, what has been published on the blog before team came together, is MY opinion (or that of the person who signed it) and after that it’s OUR opinion.
The question at hand was that NT had accused the blog of only recently believing the hoax involved others than the T9.
That “only recently” dated back to November 2010 with the post “Holiday Time”.
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/11/holiday-time.html
We know you’re slow, so we will give you time to scroll up and compare dates…
See? Post in November 2010, MY position, not team’s position. MY position became OUR position the following January.
Now please do broom up all your laughter, swallow it and please leave the floor as spotless as you found it before making such a stupid and meaningless comment.
By the way, when Blacksmith says “we, at the Bureau…” do you protest? Or because he’s such a special person for you he can go from WE to I and vice-versa as he pleases and that is perfectly alright with you?
Thankyou for your reply. Does daddy Gonc know about your secret crush on Thompson?
Deletehttps://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1090974540736483330
ReplyDeleteGreen Leaper @FragrantFrog
Replying to @CarlaSpade @JBLittlemore and 2 others
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_613.jpg
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_614.jpg
What happened to the Hynds booking on the "original" sheet?
6:06 am - 31 Jan 2019
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The Frog has used a picture we used in our post “Tapas Quiz Night, Question #4/?”
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2011/08/tapas-quiz-night-question-4.html
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wwJbuC0y80c/TkJSj25tfPI/AAAAAAAACE8/L0AKczqPc_Q/s400/S_S%2Bsheet.JPG
The Splish-Splash whatever picture.
Which we showed to be a replica (minus the Hynds) for the May 7 Tapas reservation sheet.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XaB7aPpVwXk/TkJRZFl014I/AAAAAAAACEU/0gwauX6ev7w/s400/Tapas%2Bsheet.JPG
So why is the Frog bringing up this picture together with the May 4 reservation sheet?
She is clearly saying Tapas had originals and then gave copies to the PJ. The made clean copies with the drinks written across the sheets? Clean copies with doodles on it? Clean copies with things scribbled out?
Why keep originals in the first place? What was there to hide? Need copies for archival, xerox the originals which one hands over to the police, keep the copies. Re-write them all over again? Seriously trying to convince people that happened?
But by saying that there are “originals” that were not given to the PJ the Frog is clearly saying that Tapas provided the PJ with tampered information.
The gang should be supporting McF's petition rather than griping on twitter.
ReplyDeleteIt’s going rather slowly at the moment.
Or maybe the wording about the dog alerts and the Portuguese Court findings have put them off?
She’s put her foot in her mouth as far as the gang are concerned!
Delete“Proven facts”
Anonymous 31 Jan 2019, 18:11:00,
DeleteAs a friend of the blog would say:
https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1082081895477841921
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 🐌 🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @TheBunnyReturns
Oh dear... 🤦🤦
5:10 pm - 6 Jan 2019
https://mobile.twitter.com/Irissykes14/status/1090960062305263616
ReplyDeleteOne of the gang’s supporters promoting this blog! A conspiracy blog, yet they accuse Textusa of being a conspiracy loon.
It’s worth checking the blog because it is NOT a blog pointing the finger at the Mcs. The opposite, in fact.
The only person who claimed Edmonds left early was Stephen Carpenter. There is no evidence what he said was true. GA checked the private planes which left PDL.
Having said that, could he be fat-faced man in greyscale photos, on the balcony of T9 apartment?
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2018/01/madeleine-mccann-suspects.html?m=1
DeleteAnti-semitic too.
This points the finger at various politicians.
Maybe Iris Sykes on twitter hasn’t read the blog in its entirety?
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-mccanns-versus-worlds-biggest-mafia.html?m=1
Does she believe all of this?
Anonymous 31 Jan 2019, 18:49:00,
DeleteBringing over to the blog the content of the tweet in your comment:
https://twitter.com/Irissykes14/status/1090960062305263616
Iris sykes #MMJC,#blockshills. @Irissykes14
aangirfan: MADELEINE McCANN; THE KRAY TWINS; MARGARET HODGE: http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/03/madeleine-mccann-kray-twins-margaret.html
was this the reason for Government support for Mccanns.
5:08 am - 31 Jan 2019
A goodnight to all from us. Just leaving this to let it sink overnight…
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/Cerb32/status/1090938864531881985
Cerb32 @Cerb32
Replying to @Joysetruth @may_shazzy
Anti #mccann s, JBLittlemore, Andy Pandy 🤡 and Bugs Bunny agree: the dog alerts are not evidence. DNA analysis of samples constitutes evidence. "Traces marked by the dogs were not ratified by the lab" and "No indications of the practice of any crime" according to Archive Report.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyPLGjZW0AMchEa.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyPLHI3XgAArL-q.jpg
3:44 AM - 31 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/AndyFish19/status/1091106562696011776
DeleteAndy Fish @AndyFish19
A message to Whimpering, Textusa & that Quicksand Cerb Twat! #Idiots
The Dogs ARE evidence. The Dogs WERE right. The Dogs are NEVER wrong.
I agreed in what JBL stated, in that to prove BRD in a court of law, then THAT evidence would PROBABLY need to be corrobarated! #McCann
2:50 pm - 31 Jan 2019
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IF the “The Dogs ARE evidence. The Dogs WERE right. The Dogs are NEVER wrong” then why the “PROBABLY”?
There’s no “PROBABLY” in the PROVEN FACTS written up by the PT courts.
Besides the first para, the rest of this tweet could have been written by JBLittlemore himself.
Why don’t you think before you write?
https://twitter.com/Cerb32/status/1091114591545892864
DeleteCerb32 @Cerb32
eplying to @Anvil161Anvil16
I never thought the day would dawn that Bugsy 😠, Pandy 🤡and Littlemore 👺would agree that the dog alerts in themselves are not evidence. #mccann
3:22 pm - 31 Jan 2019
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Quite the awkward experience to be so much liked by pros…
Someone over-egged their puddings…
Lick-Spittle Gang latest tactic is to say we have said that there were 600+ swingers (do note the ‘+’ sign) in Luz.
ReplyDeleteAnd don’t blame Walker/NT/Killa. JBLittlemore has also stated.
The 600 number comes from Robin Crosland and speaks of guests. We have shown that the Ocean Club booking sheets, that have been tampered with, show an average of 350 guests daily that week.
GUESTS.
We don’t know how many of that undetermined number of guests were swingers.
Fact is, those 350+ (according to Booking Sheets) or 600 (according to Robin Crosland) GUESTS are nowhere to be seen on May 4 and that’s a fact.
What does that have to do with swinging? We don’t know. We OFFER an explanation to say that because they were swingers and scared their sordid secret would be exposed, they stayed indoors to see how things progressed.
But we may be wrong. There may be another explanation. People just have to offer it and subject it to the scrutiny our has.
So after the “Pfff… I wouldn’t take my mother-in-law along…” and the “Pfff… why take the children?” be ready to read lot of “Pfff… 600+ swingers??”
https://twitter.com/McCannFacts/status/1091226835852103680
ReplyDeleteKilla Dog 🌐 @McCannFacts
Gypos. Portugal. Textusa, how are the summer bookings coming along? XXX #mccann British waitress, 22, is stabbed and stripped naked
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6655819/British-waitress-22-stabbed-scalped-stripped-naked.html
10:48 pm - 31 Jan 2019
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Even if we were against the swinging theory, on seeing this individual diss the theory we wouldn’t hesitate for a second to reconsider.
But that’s us.
Thank you NT/Walker/Killa for helping to prove us right.
We inform our readers that some team members of the blog are going to have a rather busy weekend. But we would like to leave readers with a couple of pertinent comments, better said, questions for thought.
ReplyDeleteThe first one is: does Kate McCann work for a newspaper?
The second thought provoking comment is this one: has the reader realised the pandora’s box that JBLittlemore has opened up with this tweet?
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090690032753618947
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
No I wouldn't wonder & I wouldn't think anyone was lying to hide swinging if I saw them! I've sat outside in early spring/late autumn, storm curtains down, jacket on, amongst many other cheerful souls enjoying their meals. But I don't use my personal distastes to judge! #Mccann
11:15 am - 30 Jan 2019
See the huge, huge, HUGE blunder?
Seems Sade Anslow has left admin for justice for Madeleine facebook group. Trouble in paradise ?
ReplyDeleteSade and Thompson have both deactivated their Twitter accounts.
DeleteThere is a Kate McCann, political correspondent working for Sky News
ReplyDeleteI have no idea whether it’s one in the same though.
You can rule this Kate out, done a bit of checking and it’s not the same Kate.
DeleteOnward and upward....
Here is another who is not THE Kate McCann
Deletehttps://media.sparkamplify.com/kate-mccann
I always thought Kate's name was Healy anyway, not McCann. All the official documents we know about say Healy, including that of the Portuguese court.
Deletehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6662467/Madeleine-McCann-police-secretly-investigated-alleged-misconduct.html
ReplyDeleteIs this an attempt to stir up the public's wrath at spending money on Madeleine Mc Cann investigation? Looks like it
Oh dear, the signatures on the petition are going pear-shaped, although it’s hard to feel sorry for someone who refers to others as nonces, just because they don’t agree with him.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I don’t approve of using any petition site to do this.
We have never advocated or supported the use of petitions in the Maddie case, for many reasons.
DeleteThe McFadden petition seems completely unnecessary for someone who said she believed arrests were imminent and that the police forces of both countries were doing a good job.
She claimed to have spoken to representatives of both sides: Mark D of OG and Pedro do Carmo.
Having said that, we do not like to see anything bearing Madeleine’s name being used to play games with fake signatures.
It desecrates her memory and any attempts to link us with this behaviour is repudiated.
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1092084500404744195
ReplyDeleteMadeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @jules1602x @EricaCantona7 and 35 others
Jules there is a program where Goncalo explains how he was a tapas looking at apartment. Obvious as investigator he stood at their table.
So disrespectful to Amaral these claims that he would not notice a missing table that his own team drew for Kate to identify
7:36 am - 3 Feb 2019
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Isabelle McFadden,
Please provide a link to this program.
https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1092304538223108097
DeleteMadeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @jules1602x and 35 others
That is incorrect. She was given the table template and asked to show where everyone sat.
Unless you are suggesting Kate #McCann carries around her own templates in her purse.
10:11 pm - 3 Feb 2019
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McFadden,
It’s time someone starts to call you out once and for all.
You are making a statement, not giving an opinion, that the PJ drew the table, a round table and gave it to Kate to fill in where which one sat.
Please provide proof to back up this certainty.
Please explain why it isn’t possible for Kate McCann to have said they sat at a round table, the PJ quickly drew up a circle on powerpoint, printed it, handed it over to Kate McCann and asked her to fill in the names.
Do you think the PJ has a binder filled up with pages with circles, squares and rectangles called “Table shape templates”?
You made a statement. Provide proof. Otherwise you are cluttering up the case by making an opinion of yours to be passed on as a fact of the case.
- and 'liked' by those who should (?) know better.
DeleteThe link to Isabelle Mcfadden's petition doesn't work either, even though she has received loads of comments, allegedly.
DeleteMcF says she has sent her petition and says she has arranged for copy to hand delivered to a detective at PJ in Lisbon who has helped in the past.
DeleteHad a read of that ridiculous petition - isn't there already a live investigation into MM's 'disappearance' taking place in Portugal? As such, wouldn't it be a criminal offence for the Directors of the PJ not to do their job!
DeleteTo note who she's petitioning is hilarious & some of the phrases are insane!!
What on earth does she imagine that 'leaving NO STONE UNTURNED' means? Wouldn't that be their job, also?
In the very exhaustive & comprehensive (I mean it in a positive way) SC judgement against the McCann's, I'm pretty sure that they could not say anything about any criminal investigation, because
i) wouldn't that make those lawyers liable for defamation; and ii) wouldn't that prejudice a PJ investigation? I think Portuguese lawyers would understand that!
So, the SC 'outlining suggestions' is even more specific BS!
Anonymous 4 Feb 2019, 19:11:00,
DeleteIn November, one would think no petition was needed:
"https://twitter.com/McCannCaseTweet/status/1068234538516508672
Madeleine CaseTweets 🌐 @McCannCaseTweet
I think that by February Kate & Gerry #mccann will be charged with hiding their daughter’s body
*strictly my opinion from recent news some public and other non public facts #mccanns #MadeleineMccann
12:05 pm - 29 Nov 2018"
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Maybe THEN she knew her February petition was what is going to finally shame both police forces and force them to arrest the McCanns!!
Only 24 days to go to find out!
Anonymous 4 Feb 2019, 17:42:00,
DeleteTo only ONE detective?? Oh, won't all the others feel bad?
This is totally priceless! What an example of being massacred by friendly fire! A total “blue-on-blue” disaster!
ReplyDeleteDo add all this to JBLittlemore’s blunder in our comment at 2 Feb 2019, 12:48:00 because it’s all linked:
https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1092456697732333568
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @JBLittlemore @EricaCantona7 and 35 others
On the other hand, to prove that a big object where 10 people say they sat around for 5 nights existed should be a simple process. But isn’t. Even some fool has argued that a possibility was to have 5 small tables put together to make up one. Laughable I know! 😂🤣
8:15 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092456972300046339
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
5 tables put together is beyond ludicrous. Thank heavens there is pictorial proof tho
8:16 am - 4 Feb 2019
[Oh but there is pictorial proof. Here it is:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1044005605982302211
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-actX7VdMXGM/W6zQM-PWVHI/AAAAAAAAQyc/f-BBOtjwBcYhUi9uUxKHCe_YBR42f2gHQCLcBGAs/s200/JBL%2Bproposed%2Btable.jpg]
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092457378065403905
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @EricaCantona7 and 35 others
You really are quite childish. 5 smaller tables was put forward as an OPTION for a group of people to sit around. That aside, why do you deny statements taken under oath re T9 meals at the Tapas or the bills etc.? Think they were forged too?
8:18 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092457840244154369
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @Chinado59513358 and 35 others
I suggested that ... ; ) Just to show the option of how 5 small tables could be put together and a group of people sit around them, in circular formation, if the argument was there were only small tables in the Tapas Bar ; ))
8:20 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1092458171220873216
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
Oops! Own goal there Karen! Lol 😆
8:21 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092459275392376832
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
That I think they put 5 tables together every night ? No, not so much
8:26 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1092460038495629313
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @JBLittlemore @EricaCantona7 and 35 others
Well as Karen quite rightly says it’s beyond ridiculous for 5 smaller tables to be put together for people to sit around. And so by default you are saying that they lied because they swore in a statement that it was A BIG ROUND TABLE!
8:29 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092460537240276993
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
How in the name of linguistics does this make sense?
8:31 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1092460829973401600
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
It clearly doesn’t! 😄
8:32 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/EricaCantona7/status/1092461006230618112
Karen Lowe Sanders @EricaCantona7
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
You don’t understand do you?
8:32 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1092461613326708740
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
Do you?
8:35 am - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/Chinado59513358/status/1092461977232908294
China doll @Chinado59513358
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @JBLittlemore and 35 others
Ah well that’s enough fun for one day 🤗.. I’m off to make the tea. Bye Shill’s!😙
8:36 am - 4 Feb 2019
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ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092462071764144128
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Chinado59513358 @EricaCantona7 and 35 others
Stop applying the 'default'. I was not saying they lied. I offered up the 5 smaller tables pushed together, to create a circular seating arrangement. All that needed would be a circular catering top (yes they are used) popped on top to make on large dining facility.
8:37 am - 4 Feb 2019
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JBLittlemore,
You only NOW mention the “circular catering top”. We joked about your pathetic, or best let’s stick to Karen’s own word of ludicrous proposal with this picture:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Eqi6FQMTyUQ/W6zQS2TarTI/AAAAAAAAQyg/cMQnsnaEbLc7RvBLostQWL11yIc2HeglQCLcBGAs/s320/JBL%2Btable%2Bwith%2Bhumans.jpg
The “circular catering top” or rough wood top was shown clearly in the Frog’s Event Esplanade picture. That picture was of May 4.
You and the Frog have said that according to you it was clear that on Sunday they joined 5 small tables and then brought a BRT for the rest of the week. THEN, neither of you mentioned “circular catering top”, clearly making up things as you go along while calling others of fantasists.
But now you have to make up something else: Brunt’s table. Its top is not made up of a “circular catering top”. So, according to you and only NOW, on Sunday, 5 little tables + “circular catering top”, then for the rest of the week, a Brunt’s ALLEGED BRT with solid wood table and then on May 4 back to 5 little tables + “circular catering top”, the day there was supposed to be a Tennis dinner for 12 and no table for 12 is seen?
And what is JBLittlemore’s blunder? HUGE blunder?
Read this tweet again:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090690032753618947
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
No I wouldn't wonder & I wouldn't think anyone was lying to hide swinging if I saw them! I've sat outside in early spring/late autumn, storm curtains down, jacket on, amongst many other cheerful souls enjoying their meals. But I don't use my personal distastes to judge! #Mccann
11:15 am - 30 Jan 2019
The discussion is about eating at Tapas. Storm curtains down et al. Early spring and in late Autumn.
According to JBLittlemore, he and “other cheerful souls” enjoyed their meal at Tapas. Only a jacket was sufficient.
Loads of questions one could ask: what time did he get up to queue? In what queue was he in, MW, Thomas Cook, another operator? How many people were in line, 50, 60? Did he secure a table every time? If he didn’t, how did he feel about it and where did he eat that time?
So many, many questions… but the one we want answered is: didn’t you see the BIG ROUND TABLE?
If you did see it, then why have you asked Jules if there was proof of its existence, as you have? You should have said right away, Jules, don’t worry, I saw it with my own eyes. You didn’t. Jules had to send you the proof via an imaginary pigeon.
If you did see it then why even make the ludicrous (Karen’s words) proposal of the 5 little table together for Sunday and NOW upgraded to 5 little tables + “circular catering top”?
What a huge, HUGE, HUUUUUUUGE blunder.
Go on, do continue to move the goal posts around. You have moved them so much now that they are now mere stumps.
Did jbl mention the tapas in that tweet? No. Just another huuuuuuuuge invention of yours.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 4 Feb 2019, 20:15:00,
DeleteSo, so predictable. It was the only place you could try to move the goal posts and so we were just waiting for you to fall in the trap. And you fell for it.
Here is the thread:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090595705780088832
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @JBLittlemore @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
@Mcstravick_mac No reply on my query? You also appear to be au fait with the BRT nonsense. So you would therefore also appear to be an advocate of the Textusa theories.
5:00 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/mcstravick_mac/status/1090605954960367616
Marykate @mcstravick_mac
Replying to @JBLittlemore @CarlaSpade
Ah now JB you are starting to stalk me through my profile. I’ve been to PDL and the idea that they dined in that dump is just laughable. You will notice from my profile that I’m more interest in Mo Salah and whether we will win the league this year
5:41 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090607475987005440
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
You & co should not make judgements about where people would eat when booking an inclusive package holiday. Your senses of entitlement in determining that you (Carla/Anvil/textusa) know better than the holiday makers themselves where they'd eat is ludicrous. #Mccann
5:47 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/mcstravick_mac/status/1090610051847458818
Marykate @mcstravick_mac
Replying to @JBLittlemore @CarlaSpade
Your killing me now JB......for an anti you appear very offended for people you supposably have been opposing all these year
5:57 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090611254140514305
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
Of course I also realise that steps on the skirt of your need to believe T9 did not eat at Tapas bar except 3rd because there was no table big enough ... my goodness you are a strange bunch. #Mccann
6:02 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090667615029248001
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
Why did the Tapas bar sell tapas & have the storm curtains down in May? Why even advertise inclusive holidays with meals at a couple of eateries - because May is rubbish?
9:46 am - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/Anvil161Anvil16/status/1090677015617908737
Whispering @Anvil161Anvil16
Replying to @JBLittlemore @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
😂😂storm curtains and eating at night in the cold. #mccann cracker
10:23 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090677924712325120
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
Was the Tapas bar closed that week then, dear? Can you provide confirmation of that? If not, stop your childish nonsense. I know it might make some people very proud of you but the average decent human sees it differently. #Mccann So was the Tapas Bar shut?
10:27 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/Anvil161Anvil16/status/1090678775807909888
Whispering @Anvil161Anvil16
Replying to @JBLittlemore @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
I believe Tapas was used ONCE as alibi (to keep an eye of kids they said - storm curtains not withstanding.) Let’s pull it all down, eh? Like the decent human you are! #mccann
10:30 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090679274686869504
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
And what evidence do you have that they didn't dine at the Tapas bar any other evening? Provide. #Mccann And I don't want supposition or speculation - I want actual evidence.
10:32 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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Whispering @Anvil161Anvil16
Replying to @JBLittlemore @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
It’s in the PJ files. Doctored restaurant sheets. Questionable statements from staff. A management and Tapas group capable of lying to save their skins (and others) and if you know they ate there every night, cough it up. Your sole purpose is to dismantle the case. #mccann
10:42 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090683206519656449
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @Anvil161Anvil16 @mcstravick_mac @CarlaSpade
3. A management & Tapas group capable of lying - I said no supposition or speculation. That is not proof. That is trying to find a pole to pin your holey net on. #Mccann
10:48 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/mcstravick_mac/status/1090686025784004610
Marykate @mcstravick_mac
Replying to @JBLittlemore @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
JB would you have eaten your evening meal there.......,would any of your friends have eaten their evening meal there......if you saw a group of people sitting round a cold pool on a dark miserable ☹ evening eating a meal would you not wonder ??????
10:59 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090690032753618947
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @mcstravick_mac @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
No I wouldn't wonder & I wouldn't think anyone was lying to hide swinging if I saw them! I've sat outside in early spring/late autumn, storm curtains down, jacket on, amongst many other cheerful souls enjoying their meals. But I don't use my personal distastes to judge! #Mccann
11:15 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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https://twitter.com/mcstravick_mac/status/1090691658147082240
Marykate @mcstravick_mac
Replying to @JBLittlemore @Anvil161Anvil16 @CarlaSpade
JB were are you with this swinging....calling it early spring sounds like you want to ignore the fact that it was a cold miserable evening.....I wonder why
11:22 AM - 30 Jan 2019
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The conversation is about eating at Tapas. The “storm curtains” are at Tapas. It’s all about Tapas. It’s very clear that JBLittlemore is referring to having been at Tapas.
If he had been in a similar restaurant in Norway, with similar “storm curtains” he would have said so. He would have said something like “I had a dinner in a similar restaurant in Norway with similar storm curtains and…”. Because been in a dinner with “storm curtains down” is meaningless unless a link between them and those at Tapas is established.
But do look at JBLIttlemore’s reply:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1090692412303949824
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
J B Littlemore Retweeted Marykate
Oh good lord! You couldn't make this up! Do you have any idea how old I am? This nonsense that anyone who doesn't believe the swinging theory must be part of the swinging/cover up shows how brainwashed some folk are becoming. What a tin pot crazy suggestion! #Mccann
J B Littlemore added,
https://twitter.com/mcstravick_mac/status/1090691658147082240
11:25 am - 30 Jan 2019
Does JBLittlemore say he wasn’t there? Did he say something like, “Oh you foolish woman, it wasn’t in Luz… it was in…”. No he doesn’t.
Does JBLittlemore say that it wasn’t in 2007? Did he say something like, “Oh you foolish woman, it wasn’t that year… it was in…”. No he didn’t.
No. The only thing he’s worried about contradicting is that is has nothing to do with swinging. Because he’s too old. Or so he says.
What would be the point of speaking of any other place than Tapas? Anywhere else doesn’t answer any question that was put SPECIFICALLY about Tapas.
Yes, now he can come and say all he likes, like he has done today with the “circular catering top”.
Anyone reading knows exactly in what context those words were said.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092535984695271426
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Replying to @jules1602x @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
Is that what it's all about? I've had a DM that Textusa is absolutely dependent on me to provide all the words for his blog? That he & his little stalker(s) are totally obsessed with me? Wondering why? Flattered! Does he not have one individual thought about the case? Poor man.
1:30 pm - 4 Feb 2019
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Our readers certainly remember that a few months ago we said that we were more interested in what this character had to say than what all others said. He hasn't disappointed us.
From "FB Anon":
ReplyDelete"I see JBL is calling it a ‘large single dining facility’ so maybe it’s time to change the BRT into the LSDF?? Perhaps the LSDF is also where the secret drug trials took place? 😃"
Well, it seems that JBLittlemore and Jules are starting a campaign of trying to close down the blog.
ReplyDeleteNothing says more about one’s conviction, one’s certainties and one’s intellectual honesty than trying to censor and silence one’s opposing voices:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092544786144333824
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules1602x @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
Interesting observation. That when we discuss other options such as medical accident/OD/falls & injuries he is wary of further discussion?
2:05 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1092545691208110081
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌🌸🐌🌸🐌🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @JBLittlemore @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
I think we're on to something here JBL.. Your tweets aren't dry on Twitter yet they are entered on his blog.. What's he so afraid of...very worrying....
2:09 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092549360536244225
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules1602x @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
He's afraid - he has nothing to say about the case (unless it's about swinging/tables); he's petrified his years of expounding his swinging theory/cover up will be proven to be a waste of time; he has an unhealthy and abuser's need to diminish others. Tragic.
2:24 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1092550331999899648
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌🌸🐌🌸🐌🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @JBLittlemore @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
The blog is nothing more than a pro Madeleine bashing...How anyone can support that is beyond me.. Yet we have people on this very thread doing his bidding and screenshotting... Also tragic...
2:27 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092551815005118464
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules1602x @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
Anyone who acts to support or feed that blog needs to engage in some serious self reflection. To see what it is doing to others, to help it engage in what is abuse of others, is shameful.
2:33 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1092553448522948608
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌🌸🐌🌸🐌🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @JBLittlemore @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
That blog needs to go now.. It's actually harassment....
2:40 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092554345302900737
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules1602x @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
It is ...
2:43 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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https://twitter.com/jules1602x/status/1092558189265145858
00The Jules... 🕵️♀️ 🐌🌸🐌🌸🐌🌸 @jules1602x
Replying to @JBLittlemore @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
Let's do it...
https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/76315?hl=en
2:59 PM - 4 Feb 2019
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We are now on day 17 of waiting for Jules to fulfil her promise of owning the blog by publishing the photos and mails that prove without any doubt the existence of the BRT (AKA LSDF ‘large single dining facility’).
But, do look, when it comes to this:
Deletehttps://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092544786144333824
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @jules1602x @MancunianMEDlC @FragrantFrog
Interesting observation. That when we discuss other options such as medical accident/OD/falls & injuries he is wary of further discussion?
2:05 PM - 4 Feb 2019
See how it turns out that it’s JBLittlemore who DOESN’T want to discuss it:
https://twitter.com/FragrantFrog/status/1092495085017669637
Green Leaper @FragrantFrog
I must say JBL's training as a pro is going excellently. HQ have him in contention for the sash even at this early stage of the week. 👍🎽 🤣#mccann
10:48 am - 4 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/SamColber/status/1092505139238313984
SamColber @SamColber
Replying to @FragrantFrog
Nah. Haven't you seen its 'medical trial' fantasy? 🧐#mccann
11:28 am - 4 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092516625209872385
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @SamColber @FragrantFrog
Medical trial fantasy? I think you need to check the wording on my tweet. I did say If ... only IF ... presented as an optional scenario among many floating about. I do not assert considerations as facts as some others do, tables, skirts and rusty swings among them! #Mccann
12:13 pm - 4 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/SamColber/status/1092552995173212165
SamColber @SamColber
Replying to @JBLittlemore @FragrantFrog
You've unblocked me! (emoji face with party horn and party hat)"presented as an optional scenario among many floating about" fits in with a definition of fantasy, imo, just one more to be added to those already on the tag. 🧐#mccann
2:38 pm - 4 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092554143938592769
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @SamColber @FragrantFrog
I only opened the door to land the punch dear. The abduction scenario is also a fantasy, as is swinging et al. What will be proved will be what actually defines fact and fantasy in this case. Time will tell .. #Mccann (back on block ; ))
2:43 pm - 4 Feb 2019
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So, JBLittlemore blames us for not allowing talk about medical trials, which he started, because he doesn’t want to discuss it, he just likes to opens doors and land punches like this:
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1080580886314258433
J B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @BourgeoisViews @jules1602x and 30 others
What if .. & I say if .. #Mccann were engaging in medical trials to make extra income? It happens. What if they were negligent in then monitoring effects on a child or M got hold of an adult only sedative, for example? They may well have NOT taken the necessary steps.
1:45 pm - 2 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092746225869377536
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @jules1602x and 36 others
Nail a flag to the top of a slippery pole & it's very difficult to take it down again. However high one swings ... ; )
3:26 am - 5 Feb 2019
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Never truer word spoken, as JBLittlemore is finding out for himself.
https://twitter.com/JBLittlemore/status/1092746225869377536
DeleteJ B Littlemore @JBLittlemore
Replying to @EricaCantona7 @jules1602x and 36 others
Nail a flag to the top of a slippery pole & it's very difficult to take it down again. However high one swings ... ; )
3:26 am - 5 Feb 2019
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Never a truer word spoken as JBlittlemore is finding out for himself, as recently have others before him.
How do the sisters (Irwins, Jensen/Wiltshire etc) fit in with the swinging engagement?
ReplyDeleteAny thoughts on this article? Claims he was in the resort and enjoyed sailing. His name isn't on any run sheets that I can find. https://blogs.thisismoney.co.uk/2007/05/my_experience_o.html
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