As
we informed you last week, the content of this week's post was supposed to be
part of “All the world’s a stage” which we published in 3 parts (Feb 24,
Feb 27 and Mar 03).
We did it for 2 reasons.
The first, as the reader will be able to see, it’s quite long and we thought best to make it a post of its own.
The
second, like we said at the end of the first third of the
above mentioned post, “Carpenter is not only able to fail at these 3
tasks, as by losing himself in the script, he provides more information
than he was supposed to. Even to the point of proving our blog right”.
In
our opinion, Carpenter’s statement helps us prove what we have stated
in our “Message to Newcomers” that is on the blog’s front page:
“We
don't believe there was any sort of negligence involved in the Maddie
affair. We don't believe that T9 dined at Tapas Bar from Sunday to
Wednesday. We think that on those nights they left their children with
professional nannies - as did other guests - to go dine downtown PdL.”
Carpenter
helps us prove that the nannies were there to do babysitting outside
the night crèche, so that the parents could have adult fun.
At a certain point of his April 21 2008 rogatory statement, Carpenter, when justifying the reason they chose Praia da Luz to spend their 2007 holiday week there, says:
“DC Ferguson: [you, Carpenter] Continue to describe your previous holidays and you chose this one because you were told that the “babysitter” service was available.”
At a certain point of his April 21 2008 rogatory statement, Carpenter, when justifying the reason they chose Praia da Luz to spend their 2007 holiday week there, says:
“DC Ferguson: [you, Carpenter] Continue to describe your previous holidays and you chose this one because you were told that the “babysitter” service was available.”
Note that it's ““babysitter service” and not crèche, kids club or night crèche.
“DC Ferguson:
… we also used three nannies, Pauline, Emma and Leanne, Emma and Leanne
took care of our children at night, they were all of British
nationality and Mark Warner’s employees”
There continues to be no reference to night
crèche.
According to Carpenter, Emma and Leanne took care of their children at night. Pauline, apparently during the day. Taking into account that the family stayed together and had dinner at the Millenium on Saturday and went to Tapas on Thursday we’re talking 2 nannies for 4 nights.
According to Carpenter, Emma and Leanne took care of their children at night. Pauline, apparently during the day. Taking into account that the family stayed together and had dinner at the Millenium on Saturday and went to Tapas on Thursday we’re talking 2 nannies for 4 nights.
We
do not have the Tapas Reservation Sheets for Saturday, April 28 nor for
Monday, April 30, but the Carpenters don’t appear in those for Tuesday,
May 01 or
Wednesday, May 03.
So
we can’t state that they used nannies for all the 4 nights in question
but we can certainly make an educated guess that they did. After all, wasn't that the main reason they chose the holiday?
2. Name-remembrance, a Carpenter oddity
2. Name-remembrance, a Carpenter oddity
To
remember the nannies names, Pauline, Emma and Leanne, so well seems to reveal
that Carpenter suffers from some sort psychological disorder which only
allows him to remember the name of those with who he has very brief contact with.
Neil Berry and Raj Balu, with who he says he spoke briefly with on May 03 in Tapas, he's able to remember
their names but Philip Edmonds who he says his daughter plays with and
gets into a conversation intimate enough to be told the other man would be leaving earlier
the next day, he can only remembers him by “Tapas Guy”.
The only other
interaction that Carpenter says he has with Berry and Balu, is what
appears to have been a brief encounter with them during the searches, only long
enough for them to tell him they had found suspicious “Greyhairman”, a 50
yr old man who apparently had bought all the apartments of Ocean Club's block 2.
The “Greyhairman” tale is of 2 men telling another about someone who they thought suspicious during a search for a missing girl.
The “Greyhairman” tale is of 2 men telling another about someone who they thought suspicious during a search for a missing girl.
Conversation between strangers while searching is not a personal one. For example, Cecília
Pires, when invited to search (trespass) by a 50 yr old man, doesn’t get
to know his name nor that of the elderly woman who the same man invites to
join the trespassing.
Searching is a collective effort with an objective. There's no “Hello, I’m Stephen Carpenter, would you like join me
in the searching? What are your names?”
Unless,
one does spend a long time with the same person in the same search. After a while the “I’m
sorry, what can I call you? My name is Steve, what’s yours?” is
inevitable.
Funny enough with Carpenter the opposite happens. The
person he seems to spend the most time with searching is the one whose name slips
away from him, starts as Dave the Englishman and then becomes the person who he no longer
remembers the name of.
But he remembers John Hill’s name. Why?
Observe how is seems to be so familiar with who John Hill is, so certain of his identity while trying to remember the name of the man he’s spent a lot of time with:
Observe how is seems to be so familiar with who John Hill is, so certain of his identity while trying to remember the name of the man he’s spent a lot of time with:
“Carpenter: … I can't
remember the name of the individual, who I also met by chance, and who
was doing a little of translator, what was his name again, who helped to
open the doors.
DC Ferguson: Was it John HILL?
Carpenter:
No, John Hill was a Mark Warner employee, I forgot his name, but
he...humm also knew the local Estate Agent and different people who
helped to get the keys of the owners or potential renters, some of whom
were on holiday.”
Could it have been John Hill instead, asks SY, oh, no, no, no, I know very well who John Hill is and not talking about him, Carpenter answers. Does the reader get to know the name of the manager of the hotels the
reader has been to? Or remember the name of the manager of the last hotel
the reader has been to?
The only interaction we know having happened between Carpenter and John Hill is when Carpenter observes Hill being literally ordered by Murat to open the apartments and complying:
The only interaction we know having happened between Carpenter and John Hill is when Carpenter observes Hill being literally ordered by Murat to open the apartments and complying:
“DC Ferguson: After he [Murat] left, he
explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the process
was running and they went to talk to John Hill.
Carpenter: Yes.
DC
Ferguson: In Mark Warner and he [Murat] demanded that he [John Hill]
open up all the Mark Warner rooms so that he [Murat] could check them
and he [John Hill] called the cleaning ladies etc. to help and open all
the empty apartments that were not necessarily in the Mark Warner
complex, but for which they could have the key. At this time you also
met an English man called Dave who lived in the area and helped the
Ocean Club give you [plural, so Murat and Carpenter] the authority to enter in all possible apartments,
some of the apartments in Gerry's block belonged to local owners and
Dave helped to get the key to these same apartments so that you could
search them, and then and then began the search, searching all in
general.”
John Hill is not referred to as the “manager” or the “the man from the
Ocean Club” who had the keys to the apartments. He’s John Hill. As in
first and last name memorised.
Meanwhile the man who “helped the Ocean Club give you [Murat and Carpenter] the authority to enter in all possible apartments” is just vague Dave, the Englishman.
Meanwhile the man who “helped the Ocean Club give you [Murat and Carpenter] the authority to enter in all possible apartments” is just vague Dave, the Englishman.
Also the two
of Gerry’s friends who he has quite a long walk with that morning and are
the ones who tell him that the child missing is indeed Maddie, are
remembered only as Gerry’s “surfing friends”.
So, to remember the nannies who took care of their children, Pauline, Emma and Leanne, is strange to say the least.
3. Childcare in the Ocean Club that particular week
3. Childcare in the Ocean Club that particular week
If
by “babysitting services” Carpenter means it's the night crèche, then the contact between him and the nanny in question would
be of only two courtesy greetings, one when filling up the night crèche
register sheet when dropping off the children and the other when signing
them off when picking them up.
But, as we will
see later, the night crèche worked with 3 nannies each night, so to say
“Emma and Leanne” is to be precise as to who took care of their children and the 2 can’t have worked
all the nights in question. What about the names of all others?
And to say they only used the night crèche once (justifying knowing the names of the 3 nannies) then why choose a holiday because it has “the “babysitter” service” available if one only intends to use it once?
And to say they only used the night crèche once (justifying knowing the names of the 3 nannies) then why choose a holiday because it has “the “babysitter” service” available if one only intends to use it once?
So it isn't the night crèche the kind of childcare that Carpenter says he used.
Let's see what Pauline, Emma and Leanne have said.
Pauline McCann, on May 07 2007, says nothing about night crèche or being a babysitter
in any apartment. In fact, all she tells us is that she worked “at the
Baby Club which is destined for children of ages between four months to
one year of age”.
Emma Wilding, on May 07 2007, like Pauline, says
nothing about night crèche or being a babysitter in any apartment: “...she
has worked at the Mini Club that is destined for children between 3-5
years of age since April 29 up to now”.
Leanne Wagstaff, on May
06 2007, says nothing about being a babysitter in any apartment but does speak about some sort evening childcare service:
“To
be referred that the Club's schedule is from 09.00 to 12.30 and from
14.30 to 17.30 and is closed on Sundays, working only the dinner
service.
To question asked, states that in case guests desire it,
they can request from the "Staff" services to take care of the children
between 19.30 to 23.30, however, Madeleine's parents never did it,
although this service was free.”
She refers to a “dinner service”
(that continues to work on Sundays, a day that, according to Leanne all
other childcare services are closed) and to a “19.30 to 23.30” free service.
Leanne doesn't specify whether this “19.30 to 23.30” free service is in the night crèche or in the guests' apartments.
Leanne
says “she cannot think of anything that would be of use to the
investigation” and we disagree- We think what she said would be very
useful for the investigation.
Leanne surprises us with the
allegation that the “19.30 to 23.30” service or “dinner service”, or
what we are supposing to be the night crèche, was free of charge.
Haven’t we been led to believe all this time that the night crèche was an additional paid service? Could Leanne be confused?
To
find out, nothing like going to see what Lyndsay Johnson, Childcare
Manager and Leanne’s supervisor says:
“That she is in Portugal since last March
15, date from when she started to work in the tourist resort called the
"Ocean Club", located in Praia da Luz (Algarve) where she performs the
functions of supervisor of the infant educators ['educadores
de infância' which literal translation would be kindergarten teachers,
the term for nanny is ‘ama’, the first teaches, the latter is a carer] in
the mentioned resort, as per working contract previously signed in
London (England).”
Lyndsay clearly assumes she’s the person
responsible for the childcare services provided by the resort, as per
Mark Warner’s personnel list, in which she's referred to as “Luz Ocean Club
Childcare Manager”.
She describes quite well how the childcare
was set up, namely for the group of children where Maddie spent her days
while in Luz:
“...she contacted various times a child with the
name of Madeleine McCann, clarifying that in a formal way and during
brief moments, referring that she belonged to the "MiniClub" group of
children, clarifying that such definition is given to the group of children with ages between 3 (three) and 5 (five) years of age.
Questioned,
further refers that the mentioned group of children, belonging to the
"MiniClub", is supervised by one of her colleagues, with the name of Amy
Thierry [we suppose to be Amy Tierney]. who, in turn, coordinates a
group of nannies, with the names of Catriona Baker and Emma Wilding [who babysat at Carpenters], workers who were on duty to that group during
the week in question, from April 29 to May 4 2007.
The deponent
further clarifies that the MiniClub is then subdivided in two classes of
children, being that Madeleine McCann's was at the care of Catriona
Baker.”
Lyndsay then describes how things worked:
“That
the "MiniClub" starts at 09H00, making a pause for the lunch period
between 12H30 and 14H30, beginning the afternoon period that goes from
this time until 17H30. Further refers that from 19H30 the crèche of the
resort provides a complementary [as in additional] service "of dinner" (sic) which ends at
23H30, being that it has an additional cost, still the parents can
request another service of "babysitting" that doesn't have a fixed
schedule, being agreed between the parents and the deponent.”
Leanne was wrong, the “19.30 to 23.30” service or “dinner service” wasn’t free, according to her supervisor, Lyndsay, “it has an additional cost”.
So there were 2 different night childcare services offered that week in the Ocean Club:
One
the “a complementary service "of dinner"” (between 19:30 and 23:30), NOT free of charge, and the other a “service of
"babysitting" that doesn't have a fixed schedule, being agreed between
the parents and the deponent”.
4. In-apartment babysitting in Luz?
4. In-apartment babysitting in Luz?
Could Lyndsay be saying that the
“service of "babysitting"” she speaks of was simply an extension after 23:30 of the
“service "of dinner"”? If requested, on case-by-case, the nannies
on duty at the night crèche would work extra-hours there? That the
“babysitting” was a complementary service to the complementary “service
"of dinner"” (19:30 – 23:30)?
We would think that if Lyndsay
had meant to say this then she would have used the expression “after
this time there was still another service of "babysitting" that doesn't
have a fixed schedule, being agreed between the parents and the
deponent.”. She doesn't.
But
we have someone that clarifies that for us and that person is Catriona Baker, under whose care Maddie was that week, in her statement of
May 06 2007:
“The
working hours of these four (04) posts/services are from 09H00 to
12H30, in the morning period, and in the afternoon period from 14H30 to
17H30.
Instigated, responds that there exists still another
service aimed at taking care of the children during dinner time called
"Dining out Service", located also above to the "Ocean Club's" main
reception, being that it works in the period of time from 19H30 to
23H30.
There is, additionally, a "Babysitting" service, which
schedule is from 19H30 to 01H00 and is done in the apartments of the
individuals that request it.”
So, the babysitting was done in the guests' apartments.
However, the same Catriona Baker, strangely or then maybe not, forgets to mention anything about both the “Dining out Service” and the in-apartment babysitting service in her rogatory statement of April 14 2008, except when rectifying something in her May 06 2007 statement.
We can't understand what exactly she is trying to have corrected but here is what she said: ““dining out service” that I mentioned being available to the adults, being that the children would be given to the care of a responsible one during dinner time”.
However, the same Catriona Baker, strangely or then maybe not, forgets to mention anything about both the “Dining out Service” and the in-apartment babysitting service in her rogatory statement of April 14 2008, except when rectifying something in her May 06 2007 statement.
We can't understand what exactly she is trying to have corrected but here is what she said: ““dining out service” that I mentioned being available to the adults, being that the children would be given to the care of a responsible one during dinner time”.
But Stacey Portz, Head of Juniors, on May 06 2007, confirms the existence of both services:
“The
deponent refers that there is another service destined to take care of
the children during dinner time, called “Dining out Service”, located
above the main reception of the “Ocean Club” and that works with the
schedule between 19H30 to 23H30. There still exists a service of
“Babysitting”, which schedule is from 19H30 to 01H00 which is done in
the apartment of the people who request it”
No question about it.
2 childcare services. Three childcare personnel mention both of them
clearly, Lyndsay (Childcare Manager), Catriona (Nanny) and Stacey (Head of
Juniors).
One service closely linked with the parents’ dinner
that was between 19.30 and 23.30, taking place directly in the floor
above the resort’s main reception (which we presume to be what is
presently designated as the night crèche) and the other, a babysitting
service in the guests' apartments.
And why is there no mention of
this babysitting service by any of the T9? Didn't they know about it?
Was it because they missed that Saturday crèche meeting that
Carpenter speaks of?
5. Night crèche, was it free, or was it paid?
But
the question remains, the service directly linked to guests’ dinners,
the one we're supposing to be night crèche, was it for free or did the
guests have to pay for it?
Leanne
says it’s free,
Lyndsay says it’s paid,
Catriona and Stacey say nothing about it. We’re tied at this point. Let’s see what others have to say about it:
Lyndsay says it’s paid,
Catriona and Stacey say nothing about it. We’re tied at this point. Let’s see what others have to say about it:
Amy Tierney, on May 06 2007, confirms it’s free: “To
question asked, states that in case guests desire it, they can request
from the "Staff" services to take care of the children between 19.30 to
23.30, however, Madeleine's parents never did it, although this service
was free.”. Leanne’s exact words by the way.
Shinead Vine, on May
07 2007, also confirms said service was free: “Adds that Madeleine McCann’s
parents could have used, free of charge the dinner time service, or
could have requested a babysitter (paid service), questioned answers she
cannot see any reason for not having done so.”
Jacqueline Williams, on May 08 2007, not only confirms that it was free as well but also confirms the existence of the second paid babysitting service: “Questioned, the deponent
clarifies that the crèche of the resort in questions, also offers free
of charge the possibility for the parents of leaving their children at
the care of infant educators during the dinner period, between 19H15 and
23H00…”
If democracy was truth, then the childcare service
linked to parents’ dinner was free. If there was a poll, only 1 vote said it was paid (Lyndsay Johnson) while 4 votes said it was free (Leanne Wagstaff, Amy Tierney, Shinead Vine and Jacqueline Williams).
However,
9 of the 14 childcare personnel wouldn't have voted in that poll. Catriona Baker, Charlotte Pennington, Emma Wilding, Kirsty Maryan,
Pauline McCann, Rhiannon Fretter, Sarah Williamson, Stacey Portz and
Susan Owen simply provide no opinion about it.
But majority doesn't necessarily mean truth. Our blog, in it's lonesome fight in our corner of the internet is quite the proof of the opposite.
This question needs further clarification.
But majority doesn't necessarily mean truth. Our blog, in it's lonesome fight in our corner of the internet is quite the proof of the opposite.
This question needs further clarification.
6. A secret that was never a secret but only a well maintained secret
So
why all the secrecy about this babysitting service when it comes to the
Maddie case? For all we know, the McCanns had only the option of night
crèche and that was it.
Maybe
it was made a “secret” because if outed would help explain why no
child was left unattended that week in the Ocean Club while their
parents were out doing what they thought of doing.
But
the in-apartment babysitting service which has been “hidden” from all
of us interested in this case was never a secret: The MW's website
announced it quite clearly:
First note, shouldn't something like “Mark Warner do ask that if you require this service that you book at least 24 hours in advance. Due to high demand this service is subject to availability and unfortunately cannot be guaranteed”, which is said about the Babysitting service, be also said somewhere else in the site about the Tapas restaurant and its extraordinary high demand for reservations to dine there?
First note, shouldn't something like “Mark Warner do ask that if you require this service that you book at least 24 hours in advance. Due to high demand this service is subject to availability and unfortunately cannot be guaranteed”, which is said about the Babysitting service, be also said somewhere else in the site about the Tapas restaurant and its extraordinary high demand for reservations to dine there?
The wording seems pretty apt for what is said to have been
happening with the unusual high demand the Tapas restaurant dinners are said to have. Who can forget the queues to get a reservation? We're sure that all those who were in them, won't ever.
Second
note, the “Babysitting” service is “for an additional cost” but no
extra costs referred to the “Evening crèche service” so it was for free.
Question settled.
So Jacqueline, Leanne and Shinead, the nannies, were right and Lyndsay, the supervisor, is wrong!
So Jacqueline, Leanne and Shinead, the nannies, were right and Lyndsay, the supervisor, is wrong!
What we find very strange is that having there been 2 night childcare services available to guests, “Babysitting” and “Evening crèche service”, 6 out of 14
childcare personnel mention neither.
It's the cases of Emma Wilding, Kirsty Maryan, Pauline McCann, Rhiannon Fretter, Sarah Williamson and Susan Owen. Even stranger when one of them, according to Carpenter, had been a babysitters that week Emma Wilding.
It's the cases of Emma Wilding, Kirsty Maryan, Pauline McCann, Rhiannon Fretter, Sarah Williamson and Susan Owen. Even stranger when one of them, according to Carpenter, had been a babysitters that week Emma Wilding.
Of
the rest of the 8 childcare personnel, 4 mention the “dinner service”
but say nothing about babysitting: Amy Tierney, Charlotte Pennington,
Leanne
Wagstaff and Shinead Vine. Why mention one and not mention the other?
Leanne
Wagstaff mentions the “dinner service” but says nothing about
babysitting even though, according to Carpenter, she had been one that
week.
Only
4 out of the 14, do speak about ALL the childcare services available to guests
that week: Catriona Baker, Jacqueline Williams, Lyndsay Johnson and
Stacey Portz
One
of them, the supervisor Lyndsay Johnson, gets wrong the fact that the
“dinner service” was free by saying it had an additional cost. If anyone
was to know that wasn't the case, it would be her, so why make this
incomprehensible mistake?
To make us believe the T9 didn't use the night crèche because it was paid for?
To make us believe the T9 didn't use the night crèche because it was paid for?
All
this time we thought that the T9 were just a group of misers who didn't want
to let go of a few quid and use the night crèche. Now we find out
they're just lazy. The childcare “dinner service”
was free. Zilch. Nothing. Niente.
This slothful group preferred to set up a tiring child
checking system rather than drop and pick up their children from
crèche, which they did twice a day anyway.
One of them, David
Payne, even brought along a listening monitor. As Jane Tanner says she also does in
her rogatory statement. Are Payne and Tanner saying they had planned all along to leave the
kids on their own, even before they realised the Mill was too far to walk?
But
this “miser” perception is just a myth. As far as we know, no financial reasons
have been given for the T9, allegedly, not using the childcare “dinner
service”.
Gerry McCann says it’s because the brochure said “the resort did not provide a “"baby listening" service”:
“He
adds that the only stipulation by the group was that the apartments had
to be close to one another because, contrary to the tour brochure, the
resort did not provide a "baby listening" service, that is, a service in
which a group of employees would ?listen? to hear if children were
asleep in their apartments while the parents were away. He doesn't know
exactly how it works in practice, he never having used it, but he knows
that other MARK WARNER resorts use this form of checking, some of his
group members having had access to it on previous holidays, though he
does not know exactly who. He relates that, for this reason DP decided
to use the listening devices (personal intercoms) to monitor his
children, though he had not used them on other holidays that they had
spent together”.
In fact, he’s right. Ocean Club didn’t provide a baby listening service, only a much safer and personalised babysitting one, done by professionals. Or a night crèche, with the same professional people, for no additional cost.
In fact, he’s right. Ocean Club didn’t provide a baby listening service, only a much safer and personalised babysitting one, done by professionals. Or a night crèche, with the same professional people, for no additional cost.
Kate McCann,
on May 09 2011, says to the Daily Mail that she really didn’t even
think about it but if she had it would have been unwise to leave the
kids with “someone neither we nor they knew”:
“Leaving Madeleine with a babysitter who none of them knew would have been 'unwise', Kate McCann declares in her book.
Explaining
why they did not make use of the babysitting service offered by the
Ocean Club, she said the couple never even thought about it.
She
said: 'I could argue that leaving my children alone with someone neither
we nor they knew would have been unwise, and it's certainly not
something we'd do at home, but we didn't even consider it.”
Thank goodness she didn’t find it unwise to leave them with people neither they, Gerry or Kate, nor Maddie and the twins knew during the day otherwise the children would have spent their holiday, with the exception of one beach trip, holed up in the apartment. Certainly the McCanns would have interrupted their tennis and jogging so they could check on them every half an hour.
Leaving the children with professional childcare carers during the day, wise, leaving the children with professional childcare carers during dinner, unwise. Go figure.
Thank goodness she didn’t find it unwise to leave them with people neither they, Gerry or Kate, nor Maddie and the twins knew during the day otherwise the children would have spent their holiday, with the exception of one beach trip, holed up in the apartment. Certainly the McCanns would have interrupted their tennis and jogging so they could check on them every half an hour.
Leaving the children with professional childcare carers during the day, wise, leaving the children with professional childcare carers during dinner, unwise. Go figure.
So we agree with Shinead Vine that the McCanns “could have used, free of charge the dinner time
service, or could have requested a babysitter (paid service), questioned
answers she cannot see any reason for not having done so.”
Why
there’s a general perception that there wasn’t any in-apartment babysitting
service available that week in Luz and that there was a night crèche
available for an added fee which the T9 were unwilling to pay, we can
only congratulate those who have strived all these years to create
misinformation about the case on a job well done.
Gleefully
supported by those who claim to have read the files thoroughly.
Why? Because it makes the McCanns (and the T7) look bad and anything that makes the McCanns (and the T7) look bad is very easy to pass on and have assimilated as fact.
As the wise Mark Twain said, “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled”. We won't stop trying.
Why? Because it makes the McCanns (and the T7) look bad and anything that makes the McCanns (and the T7) look bad is very easy to pass on and have assimilated as fact.
As the wise Mark Twain said, “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled”. We won't stop trying.
7. Babysitting? WOT Babysitting?
Yes,
the service was offered and Carpenter says he has used it, but was
there really in-apartment babysitting in the guests' apartments?
To find out let's see how each childcare worker describes how they got to know Maddie had disappeared.
To find out let's see how each childcare worker describes how they got to know Maddie had disappeared.
Amy Tierney, Head of Minis, May 06 2007 – “States that on the night of the
disappearance she was on duty and immediately went to the room to check
if the child was hiding. She saw that the shutters were raised and that
the window was partially opened. It was then that she began looking in
the closets to see if the child was hiding there.”
Jacqueline Williams, Nanny, May 08 2007 – “That on the past May 3 2007, at 22H15,
being the deponent exercising her functions in the MiniClub, in the
service called “Dinner period” (sic), together with her colleagues
Charlotte and Amy…”
Charlotte Pennington, Nanny, May 07 2007 –
“That on the past May 3 2007, at 22H15, being the deponent exercising
her functions in the MiniClub, in the service called “Dinner period”
(sic), together with her colleagues Jackie and Amy…”
Lyndsay Johnson, Childcare Manager, May 06 2007 – “Questioned the deponent
clarifies that when [at 22:20 by her colleague Amy] she was informed of
Madeleine McCanns disappearance she was alone in her residence, having
immediately gone out and initiated the procedure above described”.
Catriona Baker, Nanny, April 14 2008 – “At the end of the work day that day, I
headed home. Some of my colleagues were going out but I was too tired to
accompany them. I stayed in the apartment with my friend Rhiannon
Fretter and we ended up falling asleep. Two colleagues, returned later
and asked me where I had been, because Madeleine had disappeared. I was
confused and did not understand was happening. They eventually explained
to me what had happened around 22h30-22h35. Emma Wilding told me that
Madeleine was reported missing. Leanne Wagstaff also was present”.
Rhiannon Fretter, Nanny, May 07 2007 - “That on the past May 3 2007, at 23H30,
while she was in her apartment where she resides, accompanied by Cat [Catriona Baker] , who equally resides there, she was told by Leanne that
Maddie had disappeared and no one could find her. Quickly, the deponent
got dressed and went outside where she integrated a group composed by
staff elements, who did searches in the tourist resort and all over
Praia da Luz without effect.” Catriona Baker says she’s warned around
22:30 by Emma Wilding in the same apartment.
Emma Wilding, Nanny, May 07 2007 – “That
night around 22.00 she took knowledge that Madeleine had disappeared and
together with another colleague helped in searching for her”. Emma
doesn’t specify exactly where she is but Catriona Baker says she’s in
the apartment when around 22:30 she’s warned by Emma Wilding, with
Leanne Wagstaff present. However, as will be seen, Susan Owen places her in the ‘Mirage’
bar at 22:45.
Leanne Wagstaff, Nanny, May 06 2007 – “…on the
night in question, wasn’t on duty and had gone to a bar with two
colleagues” and “when she was heading from home to the bar, around
22H30, she saw her colleague Amy in the garden, with a torch looking for
something. [She] Immediately questioned her [Amy] about what was happening,
having she [Amy] said that a child has disappeared. At the beginning she
thought it was a prank, but after believed and began equally to
search”. However Catriona Baker places her in apartment at 22:30 and Rhiannon says she’s there but an hour later, at 23:30.
Kirsty Maryan, Nanny, May 07 2007 – “That on the past May 3 2007, at 22H30,
after having gone out of the apartment where she lives, near the
mentioned resort, together with two other colleagues of her, with the
names Leanne and Sarah, she found her colleague Amy. That during such
contact she was informed by her colleague Amy that Madeleine McCann had
disappeared, and so they were looking for her. For this reason, the
deponent, together with the mentioned colleagues, initiated also the
search for Madeleine McCann”.
Sarah Williamson, Nanny, May 06
2007 – “That in the past May 3 2007, at 22:30, after having gone out of
the apartment where she lives, near the mentioned resort, together with
two other colleagues of her, with the names Leanne and Kirsty, she found
her colleague Amy. That during such contact she was informed by her
colleague Amy that Madeleine McCann had disappeared, and so they were
looking for her. For this reason, the deponent, together with the
mentioned colleagues, initiated also the search for Madeleine McCann”
Susan Owen, Nanny, May 07 2007 – “That on the past May 3 2007, around 22H45,
being in the bar called “Mirage”, together with her colleagues, whose
names she only knows to be Emma, Shinead, Najoua [Najoua Chekaya - Aerobics Instructor], Hayley [Hayley Aldridge - Head of Viva Sports and Massage Therapy] and Stacy,
which is near the delimitation of the area of the mentioned resort,
after returning from the washroom, was informed by her colleague Hailey
that a child with about 3 (three) years of age who was lodged in “the
Ocean Club”, had disappeared.”
Shinead Vine, Nanny, May 07 2007 –
“States that on the night of the disappearance, she wasn’t on-duty, so
she had gone to a bar with some colleagues. States that around 22h45, a
group of people entered the bar, already looking for the child, it was
when she had knowledge that she had disappeared. It was then that she
equally started to search for the girl”.
Stacey Portz, Head of
Juniors, May 07 2007 – Doesn’t mention where she was but Susan Owen says
she was at the ‘Mirage’ bar with her and other colleagues Emma,
Shinead, and Stacey
Summing up:
- 3 on duty at the “Evening crèche service” – Amy Tierney, Jacqueline Williams and Charlotte Pennington.
- 3 in their residences: Lyndsay Johnson, Catriona Baker and Rhiannon Fretter
- 3 at the ‘Mirage bar’: Susan Owen, Shinead Vine and Stacey Portz
- 2 having gone out of apartment, we suppose on the way to the ‘Mirage bar’: Kirsty Maryan and Sarah Williamson
- 2 unclear:
Leanne Wagstaff and Emma Wilding. Leanne says she’s going to the bar
with Kirsty and Sarah but at same time Catriona baker places her inside
apartment; and Emma who is placed by Catriona Baker inside the apartment
at 22:30 already knowing about the disappearance and by Susan Owen at
the ‘Mirage’ bar at 22:45 ignorant of what had happened.
All
accounted for, except one, Pauline McCann who only says “in what
concerns the disappearance in itself, refers that she was shocked as
this was the first time such has ever happened to her”
None refer having done any babysitting that night.
Not a single one.
Was the Carpenter family the only one that used the Babysitting service that week? It seems to be the case.
By the way, we find it strange that the Carpenters use this paid service because they chose a modest 1 bedroom apartment having 2 children and then prefer a paid service to a free one that takes place in the same building in which they are lodged in. Except, by coincidence, on Thursday, May 03 2007, the night Maddie disappears.
Was the Carpenter family the only one that used the Babysitting service that week? It seems to be the case.
By the way, we find it strange that the Carpenters use this paid service because they chose a modest 1 bedroom apartment having 2 children and then prefer a paid service to a free one that takes place in the same building in which they are lodged in. Except, by coincidence, on Thursday, May 03 2007, the night Maddie disappears.
But who are we to judge? They preferred to save on the apartment fee and rather spend it on a personalised babysitting service. It was their choice to make and we respect that.
But it seems that on the night they decide to dine
as a family, May 03 2007, no else in the entire resort uses the
Babysitting service. Fascinating!
The only one who could be
babysitting would be Pauline McCann. She doesn’t even hint at that.
We would like to point out a detail that we think important about her not being “included” in the other groups: age difference.
We would like to point out a detail that we think important about her not being “included” in the other groups: age difference.
From the eldest
to the youngest on May 03 2007: Pauline McCann (41,4 yrs),Stacey Portz
(27,0 yrs), Lyndsay Johnson (24,5 yrs), Rhiannon Fretter (22,6 yrs),
Emma Wilding (22,1 yrs), Shinead Vine (22,0 yrs), Susan Owen (22,0 yrs),
Amy Tierney (21,7 yrs), Jacqueline Williams (21,0 yrs), Sarah
Williamson (20,3 yrs), Charlotte Pennington (20,2 yrs), Catriona Baker
(19,7 yrs), Leanne Wagstaff (19,0 yrs) and Kirsty Maryan (18,9 yrs).
Clearly
an age difference between Pauline and the rest which might explain why
her statement differs from all others. She, in our opinion, possesses
the wisdom of saying as little as possible that comes with age to
certain people.
Fortunately for us seeking the truth, not all.
But even if Pauline was a babysitter that night, she would have been the only one so why the heads-up “Mark Warner do ask that if you require this service that you book at least 24 hours in advance. Due to high demand this service is subject to availability and unfortunately cannot be guaranteed” that MW had up on their website about this service?
But even if Pauline was a babysitter that night, she would have been the only one so why the heads-up “Mark Warner do ask that if you require this service that you book at least 24 hours in advance. Due to high demand this service is subject to availability and unfortunately cannot be guaranteed” that MW had up on their website about this service?
A service with no demand gets a warning about
scarce availability while another, with a VERY high demand, the dining at Tapas bar, gets none. Fascinating.
That’s a sure way of getting unhappy
customers. Look at what happened to Neil Berry and Raj Balu who had to
resign themselves to a take-away dinner in the apartment just because
Berry couldn’t get a reservation for one of Tapas bar scrumptious and mouth-watering dinners.
A take-away meal so bad that the only thing Neil Berry remembers about it was that it had red cabbage.
A take-away meal so bad that the only thing Neil Berry remembers about it was that it had red cabbage.
8. Night Crèche? WOT Night Crèche?
Taking
into account that the night crèche was for no additional pay, as we have seen it was, shouldn’t
there be a warning about availability about this service as well?
Pauline McCann, on May 07 2007, in answer to a question says that “there are parents
who leave their respective children all day and during all days of the
vacations in the respective clubs and such is normal within the English
culture”.
It’s a fact that dinner time in Latin countries is much
later than it is in the UK. In Portugal to dine before 20H00 is to have
an early dinner, and if one is dining out, then 22:00 is not an
uncommon hour to start.
So, we think that if there would be an
occasion for British parents to have a time of their own in Luz, would be at
dinner time.
Kids would have their meals at normal UK-time would then be dropped off at this free of charge service allowing parents to enjoy an evening, on their own, eating in a restaurant downtown, or even renting a car go to Lagos.
Kids would have their meals at normal UK-time would then be dropped off at this free of charge service allowing parents to enjoy an evening, on their own, eating in a restaurant downtown, or even renting a car go to Lagos.
Children taken care of responsibly means heads clear to enjoy a pleasant evening in each other’s company.
And if one didn't use the daytime childcare, it would be a family holiday during the day and a romantic one in the evenings and night. Quite an idyllic set-up, we would say.
And if one didn't use the daytime childcare, it would be a family holiday during the day and a romantic one in the evenings and night. Quite an idyllic set-up, we would say.
As
we saw, there were only 3 nannies on for night crèche duty. That means, surely, the
service had a limited capacity and as we have just explained, we think it would be a service
with a high demand.
So, we repeat, such an offer should have come
with a warning about its limitations. So instead of putting “Mark
Warner do ask that if you require this service that you book at least 24
hours in advance. Due to high demand this service is subject to
availability and unfortunately cannot be guaranteed” associated with the “Evening crèche service” but it doesn’t:
Two services provided that need the warning, Tapas dinners and “Evening crèche service” don't get it. The one that doesn't, Babysitting, does.
According to Andy Redwood, on May 03 2007, 8 families used the “Evening crèche service” while, as we have just shown, no one used the Babysitting one.
Apparently the Ocean Club prefers to let its clients have a “Berry experience” which is to find out at the last minutes they have their immediate plans ruined and so have to opt for something else at the last minute.
Two services provided that need the warning, Tapas dinners and “Evening crèche service” don't get it. The one that doesn't, Babysitting, does.
According to Andy Redwood, on May 03 2007, 8 families used the “Evening crèche service” while, as we have just shown, no one used the Babysitting one.
Apparently the Ocean Club prefers to let its clients have a “Berry experience” which is to find out at the last minutes they have their immediate plans ruined and so have to opt for something else at the last minute.
By the way, has anyone seen
anything referred to anywhere about this possible limitation in terms of number of
children that the “Evening crèche service” could take in?
We haven’t but it seems obvious to us if the childcare service meant to keep their ratio of children-per-nanny they were providing during the day intact then with only 3 nannies on-duty it couldn't possibly risk having all the kids that were there during the day be left there in the evening, now could it?
After all, there’s only so many children 3 nannies can take care of, right?
We haven’t but it seems obvious to us if the childcare service meant to keep their ratio of children-per-nanny they were providing during the day intact then with only 3 nannies on-duty it couldn't possibly risk having all the kids that were there during the day be left there in the evening, now could it?
After all, there’s only so many children 3 nannies can take care of, right?
But what
strikes us as really, really strange is how 14 childcare workers differently name the exact same service for which 13 of them are put on a rota for.
As shown, MW’s website calls it “Evening crèche service”. Note, it has the word “crèche” in it.
As shown, MW’s website calls it “Evening crèche service”. Note, it has the word “crèche” in it.
Let’s see what the childcare personnel call it:
Lyndsay Johnson, Childcare Manager, May 06 2007 – “a complementary service "of dinner"”
Stacey Portz, Head of Juniors, May 06 2007 – “Dining out Service”
Amy Tierney, Head of Minis, May 06 2007 – “the dinner time service” and
““Staff” services who take care of the children between 19h30 and 23h30”
Jacqueline Williams, Nanny, May 08 2007 – “service called “Dinner period””
Charlotte Pennington, Nanny, May 07 2007 – “service called “Dinner period””
Shinead Vine, Nanny, May 07 2007 – “Dinner time service”
“Service
"of dinner"”, “Dining out Service”, “the dinner time service”, “Dinner period”,
“dinner service” and “19.30 to 23.30 service”, are all about dinner. Nothing, absolutely nothing about crèche or even evening.
Plus, 6 nannies, Rhiannon Fretter, Kirsty Maryan, Susan Owen, Emma Wilding, Pauline McCann and Sarah Williamson, do NOT even refer to a service which they are on a rota for and have done it many times since they arrived in Luz.
Plus, 6 nannies, Rhiannon Fretter, Kirsty Maryan, Susan Owen, Emma Wilding, Pauline McCann and Sarah Williamson, do NOT even refer to a service which they are on a rota for and have done it many times since they arrived in Luz.
If
one is to divide 13
nannies required to be on duty by 3 then that results in an average of
doing this particular service every 4th night. The rota for 3 nannies on duty out of 13 nannies refreshes itself every 14th rota day:
How is it possible for them to forget to mention it? Was it available or was it not?
Did we say 13 nannies?
How is it possible for them to forget to mention it? Was it available or was it not?
Did we say 13 nannies?
Well, even there, it seems there is some confusion:
Amy Tierney, Head of Minis, May 06 2007 – “Adds that the staff dedicated
to the children has a total of eleven workers, who work in shifts in
what concerns the 19h30 to 23h30 schedule.”
Leanne Wagstaff,
Nanny, May 06 2007 – “Adds that the staff dedicated to the children has
a total of eleven workers, who work in shifts in what concerns the
19h30 to 23h30 schedule.”
Shinead Vine, Nanny, May 07 2007 –
“Adds that the staff dedicated to the children has a total of 15
workers, who work in shifts in what concerns the 19h30 to 23h30
schedule.”
Honestly, we cannot come to the 11 or 15 nannies.
The closest we could was to take out of that service's rota Lyndsay Johnson (Childcare Manager), Stacey Portz (Head of Juniors) and Amy Tierney (Head of Minis) and end-up with Amy’s and Leanne’s 11. The only problem is that we know that Amy was on-duty on May 03, so her name is on the rota.
The closest we could was to take out of that service's rota Lyndsay Johnson (Childcare Manager), Stacey Portz (Head of Juniors) and Amy Tierney (Head of Minis) and end-up with Amy’s and Leanne’s 11. The only problem is that we know that Amy was on-duty on May 03, so her name is on the rota.
No idea where Shinead got her 15 nannies from.
Another question that assaults us is this, why, of the 8 childcare personnel, who mention the “whatever-dinner-whatever” service do 2 get its schedule wrong?
Lyndsay Johnson (supervisor), Amy Tierney, Catriona Baker, Leanne Wagstaff, Shinead Vine and Susan Owen say it is from 19:30 to 23:30 but Charlotte Pennington and Jacqueline Williams, by coincidence on-duty at that service on May 03 2007, says it's from 19:15 to 23:00. Why this discrepancy?
Another question that assaults us is this, why, of the 8 childcare personnel, who mention the “whatever-dinner-whatever” service do 2 get its schedule wrong?
Lyndsay Johnson (supervisor), Amy Tierney, Catriona Baker, Leanne Wagstaff, Shinead Vine and Susan Owen say it is from 19:30 to 23:30 but Charlotte Pennington and Jacqueline Williams, by coincidence on-duty at that service on May 03 2007, says it's from 19:15 to 23:00. Why this discrepancy?
Then there’s Catriona Baker, on April 14 2008, describing, in
detail the childcare procedures about what is done when a child is
dropped at and collected from the childcare facilities:
“Mark
Warner had as a standard procedure, the signature on a page whenever the
parents left the child to the care of the club, which they sign again
with the name and time the child was collected. There is a separate page
for the morning shift and another for the afternoon one. The page has
spaces for the name of the child, the time and signature of parent. Only
the parents are authorised to take the children, except when there is
done in time another sort of agreement.”
Quite detailed indeed, only fails to mention that the page also has location of parent and room number.
Constructive
criticism, we think that rather than parent’s location it would be
better have there the parents' contact information.
In fact the parents' location seems quite a useless piece of information. If a parent at 09:00 writes down that s/he’s at the pool, does that mean s/he can’t go to the beach? Or any other place s/he decides to go? Does s/he first have to pass by the crèche and change it?
In fact the parents' location seems quite a useless piece of information. If a parent at 09:00 writes down that s/he’s at the pool, does that mean s/he can’t go to the beach? Or any other place s/he decides to go? Does s/he first have to pass by the crèche and change it?
But the question that has to be asked is, why when
Catriona speaks of “there is a separate page for the morning shift and
another for the afternoon one” she doesn’t speak about the one for the
dinner/evening/night shift?
There had to be one, right? If it didn't, why didn't it?
There had to be one, right? If it didn't, why didn't it?
She doesn’t mention it, does she? Why? Maybe because there wasn't one?
And
by the way, the group in which Catriona works, the Lobsters, couldn’t
care less about procedures and rules. The Lobsters’ pages have the
mornings and the afternoons sessions on the same page:
Catriona speaks of rules she’s the first to break.
Catriona speaks of rules she’s the first to break.
9. Seasonal products are seasonable products
The
suspicion that childcare shown to be provided in the Ocean Club that week was not exactly the one that was really available is further confirmed when we're told that a service provided by a tourist resort has a
“day-off”.
In hotels, all services that involve direct contact with guests work 7 days a
week, 365 days a year. Some, like the reception, work 24/7/365. People
have the days off (they’re rightfully entitled to them) but services don’t.
In Luz,
we have already seen and found very strange, that the Tapas restaurant is said to close on
Saturdays.
As on Tripadvisor customer reviews the Tapas is hardly referred to and we only have the word of people we don’t grant any reliability and documentation which we know to be false to prove that it was so, we will maintain our disbelief in that weekly closure..
As on Tripadvisor customer reviews the Tapas is hardly referred to and we only have the word of people we don’t grant any reliability and documentation which we know to be false to prove that it was so, we will maintain our disbelief in that weekly closure..
Now, we have the childcare services closing a day a week. Two nannies say it was on Sunday:
Amy Tierney, May 06 2007 – “To refer that the schedule of the Club is from
9h00 to 12h30 and from 14h30 to 17h30, and that is closed on Sundays,
working only the dinner time service”.
Leanne Wagstaff, Nanny,
May 06 2007 – “To refer that the schedule of the Club is from 9h00 to
12h30 and from 14h30 to 17h30, and that is closed on Sundays, working
only the dinner time service”.
But unlike with the Tapas, with
the childcare service we have proof that someone is not telling the truth and
that proof comes from the nannies themselves:
Stacey Portz, Head
of Juniors, May 06 2007 – “That since Sunday, April 29 to Thursday,
May 3, she was with those two children [McCann twins] every day”.
Catriona Baker, Nanny, May 06 2007 – “More answers that from that day [Sunday, April 29], until Thursday, May 3 2007, she was with the child [Maddie]
every day, however not being able to specify if she attended on Sunday
morning”
Charlotte Pennington, Nanny, May 07 2007 – “So the
deponent clarifies that on 2 distinct days, to know on Sunday (April 29
2007) and on Thursday (May 3 2007) the deponent contacted Madeleine
McCann personally, telling her stories and talking to her”
Both Amy and Leanne are mistaken or Stacey, Catriona and Charlotte are. No way around it.
We would say Amy and Leanne are, otherwise this Jellyfish page for “29th April 2007” page makes no sense at all:
We would say Amy and Leanne are, otherwise this Jellyfish page for “29th April 2007” page makes no sense at all:
Are both Amy and Leanne confused? Could it be the day-off is Saturday, like Jacqueline says it is?
Jacqueline Williams, Nanny, May 08 2007 – “Questioned clarifies that the resort’s
crèche offered to the guests of “The Ocean Club” works every day of the
week, except on Saturdays, day off of all infant educators who work in
the mentioned tourist resort, working only a support service for any
eventuality that involves only two educators on a rota for it”.
If so, then what meeting did the Carpenters attend on Saturday?
And a day-off is not something one gets confused about. If the company where one works at has a set weekly day-off then all those who work for it, without exception, know on which day of the week that day-off is.
And why do only 3 of 14 childcare personnel speak about this day-off? Lapsus linguae or uncoordinated invention?
Also Catriona Baker, on April 14 2008 speaks clearly of continuity, of uninterrupted service between weeks: “The work in the clubs was rotational and the personnel is changed weekly. If a family stays lodged for a period longer than a week, I would stay in the same club to continue to take care of those children”.
And a day-off is not something one gets confused about. If the company where one works at has a set weekly day-off then all those who work for it, without exception, know on which day of the week that day-off is.
And why do only 3 of 14 childcare personnel speak about this day-off? Lapsus linguae or uncoordinated invention?
Also Catriona Baker, on April 14 2008 speaks clearly of continuity, of uninterrupted service between weeks: “The work in the clubs was rotational and the personnel is changed weekly. If a family stays lodged for a period longer than a week, I would stay in the same club to continue to take care of those children”.
As
can be easily seen, there’s something completely not right about the
childcare that is said to have been provided that week in Luz. At least in the way it is described
to have been by its various participants.
Are we implying that there was no
childcare in Luz that week? No, we aren’t. We think there was and it was an
appropriate and a professional one.
What we are saying is that we
think is that the childcare services “normally” (as per high-season)
offered by the resort were simply not in place yet. Nor, at that time,
were meant to be in place.
Let us try to use another service as an example.
If,
on that particular year of 2007 one decided to spend some days in that
resort, say, in February, would one be able to use the resort's watersports facilities if one wanted to?
No, one couldn’t. Why? Because it wasn’t
in-place yet.
The watersports personnel, according to the Mark Warner staff list, says they arrived in Luz mid to late March 2007. Before they arrived there was no Ocean Club watersports available.
The watersports personnel, according to the Mark Warner staff list, says they arrived in Luz mid to late March 2007. Before they arrived there was no Ocean Club watersports available.
So
was the website lying when it advertised watersports then on their
website? No, because any reasonable person knows that seasonable
products are seasonable. The Ocean Club's watersports weren't, logically, YET in place. They would be when the right time came.
The childcare
personnel also arrived at the same time. So in 2007, before March, we
can assume that any guest who came found, just like with the watersports, that the childcare wasn’t
in place yet for that year. The guest wouldn’t protest and understand it was
seasonable.
We are supported in this reasoning by Kirsty Marian, on May 07
2007: “Clarifies that she started to work on this resort last year [in 2006] where she worked from July to October”.
That makes sense. High season starts in July, ends in September. Probably her 2006 contract ended early October.
What
doesn’t make sense is being hired from March 21 to Nov 07. That’s 14.5
weeks before Jul 01, when “Summer Surge” begins. And even if one
considers high-season beginning on Jun 01, that’s still 10 weeks too
early!
What in our opinion, happened in Luz, was that between the arrival of the childcare personnel in March 2007, was the childcare provided was tailored to the
kind of guests expected, mid-upper and upper class swingers.
During the day, that particular childcare, used the existing MiniClub (children below 5 yrs of age) facilities and for the night, various “night crèches” would be set up scattered all over the resort, one per building where these specific guests were lodged, in one of its unused apartment.
During the day, that particular childcare, used the existing MiniClub (children below 5 yrs of age) facilities and for the night, various “night crèches” would be set up scattered all over the resort, one per building where these specific guests were lodged, in one of its unused apartment.
We’re not talking about trespassing.
In our opinion, that particular apartment per building would be rented just like all the others rented ones were. Only instead of being rented by a person it would be rented through some sort of arrangement between the resort and the swinging organising structure.
It wouldn’t be used by a “family” but during the evening and night would be used as mini-crèche by the children and respective childcare personnel performing their professional duties. The children would be taken care of waiting to be collected by the parents when they returned from their night out.
For the owner and the resort, it would be renting the apartment earlier than expected and for the swinging organising structure a way of guaranteeing proper childcare to their “clients” to meet their expectations that their children's safety was being well taken care of and to their full satisfaction.
With their satisfaction their return. With their return their funds. And any local economy welcomes mid-upper and upper class funding.
It was a win-win situation for all. Only a disaster could spoil this. But disasters do happen and they do come in many forms, sizes and shapes.
In this case it was not the unfortunate loss of a life of a little girl when two adults were together when “conventional behaviour” provided no reason for them to be together. The disaster was how all reacted to that loss of life, simplifying what couldn't be simplified and underestimating the consequences of their actions and the capabilities of the actions by others.
This would explain why the childcare personnel refer to a specific service on very vague terms, each one calling it what came to mind and none by what MW’s website calls it. Why because what was announced by the site wasn't yet in place, and what was in place was not announced in any site.
“Service "of dinner"”, “Dining out Service”, “the dinner time service”, “Dinner period”, “dinner service” and “19.30 to 23.30 service”, are simply terms used by people who are, in our opinion, speaking about a service they have never performed and want to hide the one they are indeed performing. The first has to have “conventional”written all over it while the second is completely unconventional.
In our opinion, that particular apartment per building would be rented just like all the others rented ones were. Only instead of being rented by a person it would be rented through some sort of arrangement between the resort and the swinging organising structure.
It wouldn’t be used by a “family” but during the evening and night would be used as mini-crèche by the children and respective childcare personnel performing their professional duties. The children would be taken care of waiting to be collected by the parents when they returned from their night out.
For the owner and the resort, it would be renting the apartment earlier than expected and for the swinging organising structure a way of guaranteeing proper childcare to their “clients” to meet their expectations that their children's safety was being well taken care of and to their full satisfaction.
With their satisfaction their return. With their return their funds. And any local economy welcomes mid-upper and upper class funding.
It was a win-win situation for all. Only a disaster could spoil this. But disasters do happen and they do come in many forms, sizes and shapes.
In this case it was not the unfortunate loss of a life of a little girl when two adults were together when “conventional behaviour” provided no reason for them to be together. The disaster was how all reacted to that loss of life, simplifying what couldn't be simplified and underestimating the consequences of their actions and the capabilities of the actions by others.
This would explain why the childcare personnel refer to a specific service on very vague terms, each one calling it what came to mind and none by what MW’s website calls it. Why because what was announced by the site wasn't yet in place, and what was in place was not announced in any site.
“Service "of dinner"”, “Dining out Service”, “the dinner time service”, “Dinner period”, “dinner service” and “19.30 to 23.30 service”, are simply terms used by people who are, in our opinion, speaking about a service they have never performed and want to hide the one they are indeed performing. The first has to have “conventional”written all over it while the second is completely unconventional.
Any service that is shared by a group of people that have to perform it every 4 days certainly has a shared name by that group. If
they started performing this service on March 22, then on May 03, (43 days)
then it would mean that all of them (except for one) would have
performed it 10 times. No way would they not be totally familiar with
it. With its name, its schedule, its procedures.
The varied terminology used to identify it denounces that is not the case.
The varied terminology used to identify it denounces that is not the case.
And that’s why the term “night crèche” appears.
Note
that in the Daily Mail article from which we quoted Kate, it’s referred
to as “babysitting service offered by the Ocean Club”. Gerry speaks of a
“babysitting listening service”. None of the T9 refer to it as night crèche. Almost a year later, Charlotte
Pennington still doesn’t call it that.
The term “night crèche” only appears later, much later.
The term “night crèche” only appears later, much later.
While the vague
“whatever-dinner-whatever” terminology seems to indicate something that may only
be sporadically used.
Calling it “night crèche” makes it seem to be much more of a permanent, fixed and structured service.
It reinforces the alleged neglect of the T9. The “night crèche” was there, it was visible (Carpenter even went to a meeting exclusively dedicated to it) and there’s absolutely no reasonable justification for them not to have use it so the fact they didn’t, aggravates their negligence even further.
Calling it “night crèche” makes it seem to be much more of a permanent, fixed and structured service.
It reinforces the alleged neglect of the T9. The “night crèche” was there, it was visible (Carpenter even went to a meeting exclusively dedicated to it) and there’s absolutely no reasonable justification for them not to have use it so the fact they didn’t, aggravates their negligence even further.
10. Mystery woman? WOT mystery woman?
We have seen that on duty for the “Evening crèche service” were 3 nannies – Amy Tierney, Jacqueline Williams and Charlotte Pennington.
Let's see how they get involved in the Maddie case.
Let’s start with Charlotte Pennington, on May 07 2007:
Let's see how they get involved in the Maddie case.
Let’s start with Charlotte Pennington, on May 07 2007:
“That
on the past May 3 2007, at 22H15, being the deponent exercising her
functions in the MiniClub, in the service called “Dinner period” (sic),
together with her colleagues Jackie and Amy, a woman she doesn’t know
but indicates being a tourist lodged in the resort in question, went to
those facilities, asking if it had been communicated a disappearance of a
child, whose name she only referred to be "Maggie" or "Maddy".
(…)
Faced with what was happening, they informed the individual of female gender that they hadn’t been communicated of any disappearance, being that, in virtue of the name indicated, they thought to be Madeleine, reason why Amy contacted by telephone her superior, with the name Lyndsay, who informed her that in fact Madeleine had disappeared.”
(…)
Faced with what was happening, they informed the individual of female gender that they hadn’t been communicated of any disappearance, being that, in virtue of the name indicated, they thought to be Madeleine, reason why Amy contacted by telephone her superior, with the name Lyndsay, who informed her that in fact Madeleine had disappeared.”
Jacqueline Williams, on May 08 2007, confirms it was a woman guest who informs those on duty at the “night crèche”:
“That
on last May 3 2007, at 22.05, being the deponent performing her
functions at the Mini Club, in the service called “dinner period" (sic),
together with her colleagues Charlotte and Amy, an individual of the
female gender whose name she cannot indicate, only that she was the
mother of a child that was there (belonging to the Toddlers2 group),
being a tourist lodged in the resort in question and who ended her stay
last week, went to those facilities saying she had been informed that a
child with the name “Maddie” had disappeared, so the parents of that
child needed the help of the nannies in order to try and find her.”
The
other nanny on-duty, Amy Tierney, on May 06 2007, doesn’t describe how
she got to know that Maddie had disappeared. Her statement reminds us of Kate
McCann when describing the family trip to the beach where she starts the
story with the family already the beach, as we showed in our post “Is Kate McCann a liar?”.
“States that on the night of the disappearance
she was on duty and immediately went to the room to check if the child
was hiding. She saw that the shutters were raised and that the window
was partially opened. It was then that she began looking in the closets
to see if the child was hiding there.”
Amy starts almost already
in the apartment but is sufficiently clear “she was on duty” that she first is at the “night crèche”.
The Portuguese have 4 ways of
describing time, from the most precise to the least: “às 20H00”, “pelas 20H00”, “cerca das 20H00” and “por volta das 20H00”.
The
first two show certainty and would be translated as “at” and the other
are much more generic and would be by “about” or “around”.
So
when Charlotte says “pelas 22H15” and Jacqueline “pelas 22.05”, they
are being quite precise in terms of the time the mysterious woman guest walked into
the “night crèche” facilities and informed them that Maddie had
disappeared. And that the parents needed the nannies' help.
But who is this woman guest, who between 22:05 and
22:15, is the one who initiates the involvement of Ocean Club's childcare
personnel into the whole affair?
We're not told.
We're not told.
We know she’s a mother of a
child belonging to the Toddlers 2 group, the one the McCann twins
attended.
We know she has her child in the “night crèche” that night.
We know that, according to Jacqueline she “ended her stay last week”, which means she had reservations up until either May 04 (Friday) or May 05 (Saturday) as on May 03 she was there warning Maddie had disappeared.
How Jacqueline knows this last detail, amazes us. Whatever reason she has to know that mystery woman has ended her stay must necessarily mean she's able to recognise her and identify her. But for Jacqueline she's just “an individual of the female gender whose name she cannot indicate”.
We also know that she's not one the McCann’s women friends, Jane, Rachael or Fiona because by May 07/08 (4/5 days after the event) both Charlotte and Jacqueline would have identified the woman at least as “one of the couple’s friends”.
Besides, none of the T9, we have repeatedly been told, had any of their children in the “night crèche”.
Taking into account that Kate raised the alarm at 22:00, the only possibility for a guest to have known so early that Maddie had disappeared is for that guest to have been at Tapas on Thursday, May 03 2007:
We know she has her child in the “night crèche” that night.
We know that, according to Jacqueline she “ended her stay last week”, which means she had reservations up until either May 04 (Friday) or May 05 (Saturday) as on May 03 she was there warning Maddie had disappeared.
How Jacqueline knows this last detail, amazes us. Whatever reason she has to know that mystery woman has ended her stay must necessarily mean she's able to recognise her and identify her. But for Jacqueline she's just “an individual of the female gender whose name she cannot indicate”.
We also know that she's not one the McCann’s women friends, Jane, Rachael or Fiona because by May 07/08 (4/5 days after the event) both Charlotte and Jacqueline would have identified the woman at least as “one of the couple’s friends”.
Besides, none of the T9, we have repeatedly been told, had any of their children in the “night crèche”.
Taking into account that Kate raised the alarm at 22:00, the only possibility for a guest to have known so early that Maddie had disappeared is for that guest to have been at Tapas on Thursday, May 03 2007:
Checking the Tapas reservation list for that night, we start by crossing out the Tapas group.
Also cross out Edmonds, because he has no woman accompanying him and his children are at Tapas.
Cox doesn't count as she's not, allegedly, there. She is with her partner Raj Balu having take-away dinner at Neil Berry's apartment, as we showed in our “Two men and a baby (cot)” post.
The Carpenters have a reservation only for “2” but we have been told that the entire family was there that night, so mystery woman cannot be Carolyn.
The Carpenters have a reservation only for “2” but we have been told that the entire family was there that night, so mystery woman cannot be Carolyn.
Neither the
Irwins (O108) nor the Sperreys (FP05) had children at the “night crèche” as both are confirmed to be registered as childless couples in
the Ocean Club’s check-in list:
The Manns have a reservation for “2 +1” confirming the presence of their 3 yr old son AM, as per Mark Warner's room property arrival lists, so no child at the “night crèche”:
Same thing with the Patels who have a reservation for “2 +2” confirming the presence of their 4 yr old daughter TP and their 11 month old son KP:
As
a sidenote, one has to wonder why Carpenter’s 3.5 yr old daughter IC
choses to play with the 6, 7 and 8 yr old Edmonds’ boys when she had a
girl of her age, TP (Patels’ daughter) to play with and doesn't.
We’re left
with the Bullens.
Their reservation shows “4ad”. We don’t know what the “ad” stands for but the “4” appears to be counting with another couple who we don't know who they are but apparently was with them. The “4” on the sheet means clearly their son is not with them at Tapas:
Looking at the arrival list, we can see that they are 3: the couple and their 2 yr old son OC and that they are returning on May 05 2007:
Their reservation shows “4ad”. We don’t know what the “ad” stands for but the “4” appears to be counting with another couple who we don't know who they are but apparently was with them. The “4” on the sheet means clearly their son is not with them at Tapas:
Looking at the arrival list, we can see that they are 3: the couple and their 2 yr old son OC and that they are returning on May 05 2007:
The Bullens stayed in apartment O302:
So, Dawn Bullen, is at Tapas restaurant, has a son who attended Toddler's 2 group during the day and is not with his parents at dinner, so can only be at “night crèche” and the Bullens return on May 05 2007.
There can be no doubt. The woman guest who, between 22:05 and 22:15 warns the “night crèche” can only be Dawn Bullen when she goes to pick up OC from the “night crèche”.
We have found the mystery woman: Dawn Bullen.
There can be no doubt. The woman guest who, between 22:05 and 22:15 warns the “night crèche” can only be Dawn Bullen when she goes to pick up OC from the “night crèche”.
We have found the mystery woman: Dawn Bullen.
However there seems to be a slight problem of
feasibility in terms of time for Dawn Bullen to be able to be at the
“night crèche” at the time the nannies say she was.
Kate went to
check at 22:00.
She would take a couple of minutes to get to apartment 5A. Has no reason to hurry. Then check the door and have the door slamming against her. After that she searches for Maddie. Checks the bed, checks the rest of the room, checks other room, check the bathroom, check the kitchen, return to rooms to check wardrobes and then probably outside front door and garden, even if only to check “abductor” hadn't dumped her outside, run back, tell them what's happened
She would take a couple of minutes to get to apartment 5A. Has no reason to hurry. Then check the door and have the door slamming against her. After that she searches for Maddie. Checks the bed, checks the rest of the room, checks other room, check the bathroom, check the kitchen, return to rooms to check wardrobes and then probably outside front door and garden, even if only to check “abductor” hadn't dumped her outside, run back, tell them what's happened
Let’s say, 2/3 minutes there, 5/6 minutes searching, 1 minute back? And we think we’re being generous.
So,
at 22:08/22:10 is when she's back at Tapas. All, except Dianne Webster, run back to 5A.
None of the other guests can possibly comprehend what was happening.
None of the other guests can possibly comprehend what was happening.
Dianne remained there and knew Maddie was missing and is the only source there present who can provide information about what is happening.
Presuming Dawn gets up from her table to ask Dianne about what was happening. Would say she would be unable to ask anything before 22:10/22:12.
Presuming Dawn gets up from her table to ask Dianne about what was happening. Would say she would be unable to ask anything before 22:10/22:12.
Say the conversation would only take a couple of minutes, 22:12/22:14.
That
means she would have walked 240 metres – 1.7 rugby pitches, 2.3 soccer fields, 4.8 olympic-size swimming pools or 10.1 tennis courts – in 01 to 03
minutes:
That’s the distance between the Tapas restaurant and the “night crèche”. Going the shortest way there and not via Baptista Supermarket and then ending up there like Carpenter with the 2 surfing friends on the morning of Friday, May 04 2007.
The 22:05 time is simply impossible. To be there at 22:15 only as a result of urgency. Dawn Bullen would have to leave for the “night crèche” IMMEDIATELY after talking with Dianne. And we repeat, we are being very generous with time.
That’s the distance between the Tapas restaurant and the “night crèche”. Going the shortest way there and not via Baptista Supermarket and then ending up there like Carpenter with the 2 surfing friends on the morning of Friday, May 04 2007.
The 22:05 time is simply impossible. To be there at 22:15 only as a result of urgency. Dawn Bullen would have to leave for the “night crèche” IMMEDIATELY after talking with Dianne. And we repeat, we are being very generous with time.
But our generosity has to be curtailed by realism.
What reason is there to have a sense of urgency? If Dianne remained seated and talked to Dawn, however briefly, she's conveying no urgency.
Please don't forget that this conversation is pure speculation on our part, as Dianne doesn't mention a conversation with a helpful diner and we know none of T9 knew Dawn because they couldn't name anyone there.
But as we have shown, “night crèche” mystery woman could only have come from Tapas and at that time in Tapas only Dianne knows Maddie was missing. So Dawn had to talk with Dianne. We see no other way but if anyone can come up with an alternative, we welcome it.
Dawn needs to get to know the child was a girl named “Maggy” or Maddy” and to get to know that “the parents of that child needed the help of the nannies in order to try and find her”. She needed to know these details before heading for the “night crèche” because this is the information she gives there.
Dianne knows that Maddie is missing but that's it. That Kate in a state of hysteria has said that Maddie was missing, turned her back and returned to the apartment.
Missing, at this point, means nothing urgent. Missing could mean she was just around the corner. Missing could mean the group could return any minute, relieved to have found Maddie wherever she could have been hiding and all would have returned to normality.
The others had gone to evaluate what missing really meant and until one of them returned confirming she could not be found would the sense of urgency enter the Tapas esplanade. So, for what reason would Dianne say the group needed any help from the nannies or for Dawn to assume that in any way?
This is not a conversation for a couple of minutes.
Unless everything happen at the speed of light like the Tapas dinner for 9 in less than an hour, including reheating Russell’s dinner.
And wouldn’t Dawn's first reaction be to ask what she could do to help in case she sensed some urgency?
And what did the other 3 people who were with Dawn do meanwhile? Did they join the conversation? Did they ask questions and tried to grasp the situation themselves as would be expected they would?
Did they rush with Dawn towards the crèche too?
And wouldn’t Dawn's first reaction be to ask what she could do to help in case she sensed some urgency?
And what did the other 3 people who were with Dawn do meanwhile? Did they join the conversation? Did they ask questions and tried to grasp the situation themselves as would be expected they would?
Did they rush with Dawn towards the crèche too?
But
is there any reason for Dawn, alone or with others to rush to the crèche? Is there any fear to have that her son disappears from a supervised facility where he was under the care of professional nannies?
Neither
Charlotte nor Jacqueline say she came in out of breath or sensed
any urgency. She arrived and asked if the nannies had been informed. She was
not there to inform them. She was curious if they already knew.
The purpose of her being there was to pick up her son and not to warn the crèche. Charlotte doesn't even mention having said the parents needed the help from the nannies. Only Jacqueline hears her say that.
The purpose of her being there was to pick up her son and not to warn the crèche. Charlotte doesn't even mention having said the parents needed the help from the nannies. Only Jacqueline hears her say that.
And where was her husband and the other couple people who dined with them during this? They remained at Tapas? Walked with her, slowing her down? Ran with her? Why would they? Maddie would only be news the next day, not when Kate gave the alarm.
And
why would the parents need help from the nannies? Certainly they welcomed all the help they could get (if they were being truthful, which we know they weren't, but let's play along) but we see no reason to need, specifically, the help of the nannies. Maddie had not disappeared on their watch, so why
call them with such urgency?
But the pièce de rèsistance about the “night crèche” mystery woman, or Dawn Bullen, is when Charlotte says “a woman she doesn’t know but indicates being a tourist lodged in the resort in question” and when Jacqueline says “an individual of the female gender whose name she cannot indicate, only that she was the mother of a child that was there [“night crèche”] (...) went to those facilities”.
First, we would like to know how Charlotte knows the woman is a tourist if she doesn't know her?
But, please sit down and brace yourselves... how can a woman pick up a child from a crèche and her name not be known??
So there's no doubt about what Jacqueline has said, this is what is in the PJ File, in Portuguese: “deslocou-se aquelas instalações um indivíduo do sexo feminino cujo nome não sabe indicar, apenas que era mãe de uma criança que ali se encontrava”.
Isn't there a signing in and a signing out procedure? Didn't she have to identify herself and the child before being able to pick her son up? Or does any woman walk in, look at the available children and pointing to one just says “I'll take that one” and leave with the child?
Isn't that what mystery woman basically did? Picked up a child anonymously? What kind of crèche was “night crèche”? Oh, we forgot, it wasn't.
By May 08 2007 the Maddie case has exploded worldwide, it's its biggest and hottest issue. It's on every newspaper's front page. The whole world is looking for Maddie and, apparently, a nanny forgets to check up on her facts before going to be heard by the police about it. Not even to say “it was OB's mother”.
Dawn Bullen at 22:15 that night at the “night crèche” is not realistic. Even pulling back a little the time Kate leaves the table. It requires an urgency and reasons that did not exist and an adult picking up a child without being identified.
It's pure nonsense.
But the pièce de rèsistance about the “night crèche” mystery woman, or Dawn Bullen, is when Charlotte says “a woman she doesn’t know but indicates being a tourist lodged in the resort in question” and when Jacqueline says “an individual of the female gender whose name she cannot indicate, only that she was the mother of a child that was there [“night crèche”] (...) went to those facilities”.
First, we would like to know how Charlotte knows the woman is a tourist if she doesn't know her?
But, please sit down and brace yourselves... how can a woman pick up a child from a crèche and her name not be known??
So there's no doubt about what Jacqueline has said, this is what is in the PJ File, in Portuguese: “deslocou-se aquelas instalações um indivíduo do sexo feminino cujo nome não sabe indicar, apenas que era mãe de uma criança que ali se encontrava”.
Isn't there a signing in and a signing out procedure? Didn't she have to identify herself and the child before being able to pick her son up? Or does any woman walk in, look at the available children and pointing to one just says “I'll take that one” and leave with the child?
Isn't that what mystery woman basically did? Picked up a child anonymously? What kind of crèche was “night crèche”? Oh, we forgot, it wasn't.
By May 08 2007 the Maddie case has exploded worldwide, it's its biggest and hottest issue. It's on every newspaper's front page. The whole world is looking for Maddie and, apparently, a nanny forgets to check up on her facts before going to be heard by the police about it. Not even to say “it was OB's mother”.
Dawn Bullen at 22:15 that night at the “night crèche” is not realistic. Even pulling back a little the time Kate leaves the table. It requires an urgency and reasons that did not exist and an adult picking up a child without being identified.
It's pure nonsense.
But
it was needed.
The ball has to start rolling somewhere sometime and they had a lot of people to fit in so little time. Explanations needed giving and they had to find explanations. Even if they didn’t make sense.
The ball has to start rolling somewhere sometime and they had a lot of people to fit in so little time. Explanations needed giving and they had to find explanations. Even if they didn’t make sense.
We think the intention was to
have the following sequence of information flow: alarm raised – Tapas
area alerted – guest from Tapas alerted – “night crèche” alerted – Childcare Manager alerted (missing person procedure in place) – Resort
Manager alerted – Resort Owner alerted.
Only things didn’t work quite so well as the time was too short and everything got muddled up:
22:00 – Kate notices Maddie missing, raises the alarm
22:05 – Charlotte Pennington says Dawn Bullen is at crèche asking if they already know Maddie is missing.
22:15 - George Crosland receives call from John Hill informing him Maddie missing (Hill does not refer to this call)
22:15
– Jacqueline Williams says Dawn Bullen is at crèche saying she had been
informed that Maddie was missing and that parents need nannies help.
22:20
– Lyndsay Johnson is informed by Amy Tierney, by phone that Maddie is
missing (Amy doesn’t speak of this call, Charlotte Pennington is the one
who says she sees her calling)
22:25 - George Crosland arrives
at the scene. John Hill and Silvia Batista are already there (10
minutes to get out of the house, into the car and drive from Lagos to
Luz is a feat not many are able to achieve)
22:25 – Lyndsay
Johnson says “procedure to search for missing child is launched”. (we
cannot understand how, as none of the nannies receive any call from her,
and the only one who is said to have talked to her, Amy Tierney, heads towards the apartment and
NOT to any pre-designated area or muster point)
22:28 – John Hill
is informed by phone by Lyndsay Johnson that Maddie is missing (13
minutes after he informed George Crosland of that fact and 3 minutes
after he has been on the scene)
22:30 – Silvia Batista is
informed by George Crosland, by phone that Maddie is missing (Crosland
doesn’t mention this call and has already been in Luz for 5 minutes
where he has seen… Silvia)
22:33 – John Hill says he arrives at the scene (13 minutes after he was seen there by George Crosland)
22:40 – Authorities are called.
11. Night Crèche? WOT Night Crèche? THAT Night Crèche?!? No, thank you!
The best thing about the fact that night crèche not being in place is that if it had been, we certainly wouldn’t recommend it.
The mystery woman/Dawn Bullen tale speaks for itself. Apparently, as long as they look like a tourist any anonymous person could just pick up a child and leave without questions being asked.
Why, one wonders, did “abductor” go to all the trouble to go to an apartment to abduct a child when all he had to do was walk up to “night crèche”? The answer is simple: the “abductor” was too ugly (he wore a surgical mask and bandages around his feet according to some literary intellectuals) to be taken for a tourist. The “night crèche” was off-limits for him.
But it is not because of the mystery woman episode that we wouldn't recommend the “night crèche”. It would be because of something much more serious.
Let's continue to hear what the 3 nannies who were on duty that night have to say.
Amy Tierney, Head of Minis, on May 06 2007:
Why, one wonders, did “abductor” go to all the trouble to go to an apartment to abduct a child when all he had to do was walk up to “night crèche”? The answer is simple: the “abductor” was too ugly (he wore a surgical mask and bandages around his feet according to some literary intellectuals) to be taken for a tourist. The “night crèche” was off-limits for him.
But it is not because of the mystery woman episode that we wouldn't recommend the “night crèche”. It would be because of something much more serious.
Let's continue to hear what the 3 nannies who were on duty that night have to say.
Amy Tierney, Head of Minis, on May 06 2007:
“States
that on the night of the disappearance she was on duty and immediately
went to the room to check if the child was hiding. She saw that the
shutters were raised and that the window was partially opened. It was
then that she began looking in the closets to see if the child was
hiding there.”
The first idea that occurred to her was that the
child may had gone out by her own means, however, after checking that
the window was open and the shutters raised, she questioned the parents
if the girl’s shoes were there, to which they responded affirmatively,
so these facts made the present deponent think that Madeleine McCann
could have been taken by someone.
(…)
…when she arrived,
there were already there the child’s parents and a [female] friend,
whose name doesn’t know, so the [front] door was open.
After having searched the apartment and checking that the child wasn’t there, they began searching the exterior.
The
witness states that the child’s father went to the reception to call
the police, as soon as he noticed her disappearance, and that about 20
minutes had passed. The GNR would have taken about thirty to thirty-five
minutes to arrive at the scene.
(….)
Adds that the staff
dedicated to the children has a total of eleven workers, who work in
shifts in what concerns the 19h30 to 23h30 schedule.
The present
deponent remembers that, when entering the room, at the time of the
disappearance, she noticed that the bed the two babes were asleep, and
noticed that the bed that was nest to the window was with bedclothes
crumbled up, as if someone had been sitting there, and that Madeleine
McCann’s bed, was with the bedclothes pulled back, and on top of it was a
small blanket and a teddy bear.”
At 22:20, according to Lyndsay Johnson, Amy called her. So all of the above can only have happened after.
That means, even if she hurried straight away towards the McCann apartment, she wouldn’t have been there before 22:30. Let's give her 5 minutes to finish talking to Lyndsay and have the procedure in place (Lyndsay doesn't say she calls anyone else, so it was through Amy the said procedure had to be initiated) and 5 minutes to get to apartment.
At
that time, George Crosland, John Hill and Silvia Batista would have
been there, according to Crosland. Amy sees none of them. Amy sees
ONLY a couple and another woman, their friend. No one else.
But the
question that has to be asked is how did Amy Tierney know where the
apartment of the McCanns was? Maddie wasn’t under their care and no one
mentions checking up on the register sheets to see in which apartment she would be staying.
Even if they checked what would they see? Only G5A.
Even if they checked what would they see? Only G5A.
Would someone who had only arrived in March and whose function was only childcare be familiar with the building terminology?
Would
Amy, or any other childcare worker know the difference between
G5A and 0008, 0024, 0027, 0108, 0206, 0207, 304, 0306, 307, 0408, 0409,
53A, 53B, 54B, 55A, 55B, 5ALI, 5CAT, 5CBA, 5FIL, 5IRL, 5MEI, B5, BA0,
BA11, BA13, BA14, BA15, BA17, BA17, BA18, BA19, BA19, BA20, BA21, BA22,
BP01, BP02, BP03, C11, C1C, C1H, C1J, C2D, C2E, C3B, C3E, C3F, C3H, C3J,
C4A, C4C, C4E, C4F, C4H, C5C, C5D, C5E, C5F, C5G, C5K, CC1, CCF, CP01,
CP02, CP03, CZH, DP01, DP03, EP01, FG2, FP01, FP02, FP03, FP04, FP05,
FP06, FP08, FP09, FP10, FP11, G13A, G13B, G15, G16, G19, G1B, G1C, G1C,
G1E, G1F, G1K, G1M, G1P, G20, G25, G30, G31, G41, G46, G4B, G4J, G4L,
G4M, G4N, G4-O, G51, G52, G5B, G5D, G5H, G5K, G603, G604, G606, G607,
G608, G608, G610, GM, GP01, GP02, GP03, GP04, GP05, GP06, Hole, KP01, M
P, ML5B, O025, O031, O108, O109, O207, O212, O302, O303, O307, O309,
O401, O402, O409, OO10, OO11, OO11, OO22, OO25, OO27, OOO8, QP01, S701,
S701, S702, S703, S704, S705, S706, S707, S708, S709, V-SI, W11B, W11E,
W13, W18, W1F, W1M, W21B, W21D, W21F, W21G, W22D, W23B, W23D, W24D, W2H,
W3H, W4A, W4J and W9?
We don’t think so.
And why would a nanny need to know where a tourist child under her
care was residing temporarily in a resort with lodging scattered all over town? The children were dropped off and picked up at the childcare facilities and not taken to their apartments.
Yet, Amy not only knows who “Maggie” or “Maddy” is but she
also knows exactly where her family’s apartment is. And it can’t be because
of a gathering because she sees only the parents and their woman friend. No one else as we have shown.
Then, she walks into a room and makes one fascinating conclusion: the shoes are there, so the girl must have been abducted.
Shouldn’t
the reasoning be the exact opposite? Putting on a coat and putting
shoes on is an “adult worry”, not a toddler’s. If she had wandered
off, would she first have put her shoes on? Of course not.
She would have gotten up and walked out just as she was dressed. Outside, when realising the ground was hurting her feet, she would simply cry with the pain and not reason, like an adult, let me go back and put some shoes on.
The shoes being there does not rule out an abduction. It simply points to her wandering away.
She would have gotten up and walked out just as she was dressed. Outside, when realising the ground was hurting her feet, she would simply cry with the pain and not reason, like an adult, let me go back and put some shoes on.
The shoes being there does not rule out an abduction. It simply points to her wandering away.
But, what matters is the reader retains that Amy Tierney has left the “night crèche” to go look for Maddie.
Jacqueline Williams, Nanny, on May 08 2007:
“That
after this situation, the “search procedure of missing child" (sic) was
initiated, which consists of an organised search and broken up into
different areas of the resort in question. Immediately the deponent
helped and participated in such diligences, staying her colleague with
the name Charlotte in the crèche, taking care of the remaining children
who were there and waiting for the arrival of the last parents, after
which she also participated in the mentioned procedure.
This way,
the deponent says she participated in such diligences, making a
partnership with her colleague Joe (worker of the bar of the Tapas
restaurant), walking in various areas of the resort “The Ocean Club”.
Questioned
clarifies that she didn’t make any searches in the apartment where
Madeleine stayed with her parents and siblings, nor in the surrounding
area.
That she participated in the searches until 04H0 of the following day (May 04 2007) when she returned to her residence.”
So
she, like Amy has left the “night crèche” to go look for Maddie, paired
up with a Joe from Tapas.
How does Jacqueline know Charlotte took part in the searches? From her words she searched areas far from the apartment.
Jacqueline only has to explain what Jacqueline has done and Charlotte what Charlotte has. Why does Jacqueline speak in Charlotte's name?
How does Jacqueline know Charlotte took part in the searches? From her words she searched areas far from the apartment.
Jacqueline only has to explain what Jacqueline has done and Charlotte what Charlotte has. Why does Jacqueline speak in Charlotte's name?
But Jacqueline says, very clearly, that Charlotte remained behind to take care of the children who were still at “night crèche”. According to Jacqueline, when she left there were children there.
Charlotte Pennington, Nanny, on May 07 2007:
“That after this situation, the “search procedure of missing child” (sic) was
initiated, which consists of an organised search and broken up into
different areas of the resort in question.
In this way, the
deponent states that she participated in such diligences, making a
partnership with her colleague Amy, walking various areas of the resort
“the ocean Club”. More refers that she even walked the area at the back
of the residence where Madeleine stayed with her parents and siblings,
being that, in virtue of already there being various individuals inside,
without being able to say if they were friends or workers of the
resort, she didn’t go inside that residence.
That she participated in the searches until 01H30 of the following day (May 4 2007) when she returned to her residence.”
Saying
“that after this situation, the “search procedure of missing child”
(sic) was initiated, which consists of an organised search and broken up
into different areas of the resort in question” and following it with “in this way, the
deponent states that she participated in such diligences, making a
partnership with her colleague Amy” shows clearly a continuity: initiation followed by participation.
Nowhere does she say “they went” or “I stayed until” which would imply that she stayed behind.
She pairs up with Amy. Amy goes into apartment, Charlotte remains outside.
She pairs up with Amy. Amy goes into apartment, Charlotte remains outside.
Charlotte, like Amy and Jacqueline, the 3 nannies on duty at the “night crèche” have simply abandoned the children there. Even ugly “abductor” could gone and picked a child there and walked away..
Crèche Dad, the fictional character created by “Met Studios” who, according
to SY had the fortune to go and pick up his child around 21:15 before
s/he would have been abandoned by all the on-duty nannies at “night crèche”.
Even though no parent complained when they arrived at the “night crèche” and found no one to give them their child, we think this should be brought to the appropriate Childcare Manager.
Oh, you thought we were referring to Lyndsay Johnson?
No, we aren’t.
Lyndsay only “becomes” Childcare Manager on May 06 2007.
No, we aren’t.
Lyndsay only “becomes” Childcare Manager on May 06 2007.
On May 04 2007 there was another Childcare Manager as is reported by PJ inspector Manuel Pinho:
“Through
her [Silvia Batista], we contacted, Donna Louise Rafferty-Hill
(contactable by mobile phone number 964...) responsible for the crèche
workers, belonging [the crèche] to the "MARK WARNER" company,
responsible [the crèche workers] for MADELIIVE (missing child) and the
twins during some periods of the day, since their arrival in Portugal.
(…)
It
is the deponent, responsible for the coordination, who [Donna Hill]
distributes the children to the various girls, being that the choice of
each of the children not of each one of them [nannies]”.
For some reason was Donna Hill called by SY in December 2014 and it wasn’t because she is married to John Hill.
The
odd thing about this diligence made by inspector Manuel Pinho is that
it starts with them “all [the 14 childcare people] are available to speak to the
elements of this police” but, after speaking with only 2, Catriona Baker and
Stacey Parker, “it wasn’t possible to speak with the rest of the girls,
namely the referred SHINEAD, in virtue that most of them was absent and
because there were other diligences with higher priority”.
Most of them were away on May 04 2007, when the PJ was there to talk to them? Why?
We have received a message from an Alice asking “Textusa, is it possible for me to go back to Wonderland?”
Sorry Alice, no can do. You have to waddle through all this nonsense like the rest of us.
We have received a message from an Alice asking “Textusa, is it possible for me to go back to Wonderland?”
Sorry Alice, no can do. You have to waddle through all this nonsense like the rest of us.
Very detailed post which absolutely makes clear that they were lying through their teeth about the childcare arrangements.
ReplyDeleteThere has been some very very recent facebook activity from the TAPAS9 which I am inclined to believe was meant to distract us from something - possibly your post.. it wouldn't surprise me!
According to Jez, they had to collect their child from night creche when he/she started crying. That means you had to be within calling distance to use it. No possibility of travelling to another town. So another service was needed if you didn't want your dinner disturbed, or you wanted to leave town.
ReplyDeletebrilliant xx
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-502095/Sweaty-Murat-breathless-excited-Maddie-police-quiz.html
ReplyDeleteJez Wilkin's partner:
"Miss O'Donnell was staying with her partner, her three-year- old daughter and nine-month- old baby son in their apartment a block away from the McCanns".
She said: "Privately I was glad we didn't get their apartment.
"It was on a corner by the road and people could see in. They were exposed."
She described the dilemma parents faced when arranging childcare at the resort.
Although the Ocean Club had a 'sit-in' babysitting service, she said it was expensive, highly in demand and parents had to book well in advance.
Alternatively, children could be taken to the kiddie club which also ran a babysitting service.
But Miss O'Donnell said that when she left her children there, the sitter called to say one was crying.
The couple had to leave their meal unfinished to collect their two children and return to their apartment.
I do notice some of nannies use identical wording
ReplyDeleteKirsty and Sarah
Could the person who posted above please enlighten us to the recent tapas 9 activity on Facebook? I'm sure we are all intrigued :-)
ReplyDeleteBrilliant post Textusa, thank you, and very detailed as always so will read again later.
ReplyDeleteMeantime I thought readers might be interested in this:
http://pjga.blogspot.pt/2015/03/lisbon-trial-awaiting-verdict.html?m=1
Many of you who have been following the trial will be aware of the fact that the deadline for all parties to deliver their legal arguments to the court ended on the 26th of February.
Legal arguments were delivered by several parties and now we await a verdict from the Judge.
Article 607 of the Portuguese Civil Process Code stipulates an indicative period of 30 days after the process is concluded by the Judge. While this is not a legal deadline but merely a recommendation, several jurists believe that this case will receive a relatively swift decision.
Judicial holidays over the Easter period (March 29-April 6, dates are inclusive) mean that no verdict will be issued during this interruption of the Courts' work.
We trust in Justice and serenely await the Judge's decision, in solidarity with Gonçalo Amaral.
For your ongoing support, we thank you very, very much.
Looks like we might have to wait a bit longer for final judgement.
Nuala x
Hi Textusa,(wonderland) another excellent post and deduction of person's involvement in collusion?
ReplyDeleteI posted on ATWAS about Bernard Hogan Howe on news night BBC 2 of his on going priorities of investigations into various unsolved cases?
If the UK Police forces could have been bothered to investigate the initial cases "properly"in the first instance, they would not need to re-investigate so many unsolved cases?
I do not wish to be negative, but after listening to the mealy words expunged from his lips about the investigations(Operation Grange 10-12 Million pounds), you just know the signals he was giving out to certain persons, who were not suspects?
Finally being exposed Chief Inspector Duckingfield (Freemason) had admitted to lying about the "Liverpool Fans forcing open the gates and Not being of a drunken state" at the Time of the Hillsborough Tragedy, His own words belatedly that he was incompetent but not "Negligent in his conduct on the 15 Day April 1989?"
Quite unbelievable that he is suffering now with PTSD, what doe's he think the "Families have gone through"!
I am sorry to make reference to peoples personal tragic events but thought it is relevant to highlight possible Masonic connections in the UK Police Force, it would seem the Brotherhood come first to be protected and the public who pay for the protection from Criminal behaviour, Second?
I first understood Amy Teirney to mean she was in 5a. The scentence almost read as 'i was in the house and heard a noise and went into the room and then began searchin....' So not unusually in these statements describes something simple in a,convoluted fashion. She says she was working but could she have already been in 5a babysitting? Excellent as usual btw
ReplyDeletebrilliant as usual, you are really getting down to the bare bones, love to read as you strip away all the lies and crap bit by bit, x
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 13 Mar 2015, 12:35:00, thank you for the link:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-502095/Sweaty-Murat-breathless-excited-Maddie-police-quiz.html
We would like to call the attention of our readers to the following passage:
“On May 3, the night Madeleine disappeared, Miss O'Donnell said they decided to stay in with their children.
She said: "We ate, drank wine, watched a DVD then went to bed.
"On the ground floor, a completely catastrophic event was taking place.
"On the fourth floor of the next block, we were completely oblivious."
At 1am they were woken with the news by a friend of the McCanns helping with the search.”
Note that Miss O'Donnell mentions being woken up by John Hill and Matt Oldfield, like Jez Wilkins says they were: ““The doorbell woke us up at about 1 am. It was the resort manager who I learnt to be John and one of Jerry's friends. I think his name was Matt.”
http://textusa.blogspot.pt/2015/02/bladderman.html
But do note also that Miss O'Donnell doesn’t mention Jez Wilkins wandering pushing son around Praia da Luz for an hour.
And please note that Miss O'Donnell says nothing about him having spoken to Gerry exactly around the time Maddie was being abducted! That would be a very important newsworthy thing to say.
Interesting things to note.
Unpublished Anonymous at 13 Mar 2015, 17:31:00,
ReplyDeleteThabk you for your comment, but we are not in a position to do these checks and suggest you refer it to someone with legal authority to do so.
Unpublished Lee to Textusa at 13 Mar 2015, 17:59:00,
ReplyDeleteWe're not going down the route proposed in your last paragraph.
We have written posts which cover the questions you posed.
We weren't there, so we don't have detailed knowledge of the activities you refer to, rather crudely.
Great blog textusa........a number of other blogs disagree with your theory that the accident occurred on the day the abduction was faked. I think this blog supports your theory.....if it had occurred earlier in the week there would have been no need to cover up the childcare arrangements which supported the swinging activity because I would have expected the swinging and partying to have been halted as a result. Such a lot of information provided about childcare arrangements which had no relevance to the tapas 9 as they did use it supposely.
ReplyDeleteAs per post above, there has indeed been some heightened facebook activity within the last week. I can only think it's because the Tapas lot are beginning to get really desperate now. Once again another fantastic post which has again left me with a splitting headache, but still you continue to shred their farce to pieces. Am already looking forward to next weeks...
ReplyDeleteUnpublished Nuala at 13 Mar 2015, 21:35:00,
ReplyDeleteWe cannot publish you comment because in it you direct attention to something we don’t want to reveal yet.
Honestly, when writing the post we knew this could happen and were afraid you would be the one to do it.
You didn’t disappoint us so we aren’t surprised in having to write this comment “censoring” one of yours.
Please understand it has nothing to do with keeping info away from readers but only a question of timing. We have set a path and we are following it.
Thanks to the link you provided, you helped clarify what the “ad” of the “4ad” means, and it needs no translation as the word as similar wording in both English and Portuguese: adults (or in Portuguese, adultos).
So what the Tapas sheet is saying is that the Bullens reservation was for 4 adults. Why this only for the Bullens, we don’t know.
Maybe to convey the idea that Tapas was a place where families dined as families (so adults and children) and having 4 adults together was such an exception that would be worthy of being noted.
In the restaurants I reserve, they only ask party of how many, name reservation is to be and a contact.
A child or an adult occupy, for the restaurant, the exact same thing: 1 place at the table. The difference between one and the other in what they may or may not eat is not relevant in a reservation.
Our sincere apologies and our congratulations in having us apologise.
No problem Textusa and no need to apologise, I'm pleased to have been censored for such a reason and look forward to future posts :)
ReplyDeleteI didn't think AD stood for Adult because if you look at the McCann entry (on the link I gave you) for example the number is 5, and Oldfield is 3, so it looked like the total number of the family group. But I realise it's not important enough to labour the point, just a curiosity ;-)
However, it did make me look at the Tapas sheets again and in your "Two men and a baby (cot)" post you said this:
We see no table allocated to Cox, and that makes us think said allocation was done upon arrival of guests.
Actually there is a table allocated to Cox, it's to the right of the tick, you can see 20 then the last number is off the scan of the page. So Cox/Balu are recorded as eating in Tapas that evening (3rd May) despite saying they had a takeaway.
Sorry I realise this refers to a previous post but just noticed it.
Nuala x
Have to disagree Nuala,
DeleteAfter the tick, there is indeed something that could configure a “2” (we cannot see the zero after)
However, after looking at the slant and stroke, but fundamentally the size of the other “2”, we have reached the conclusion that it is not (or may be as later will explain)
Plus the page may be cut by the copy, but the space required for a 3 digit number, would mean the cut would deform the A4 form of the page and it doesn’t. It may have lost a couple of millimetres, but would say that at the most.
But interesting is to see that the “2” of Edmonds (205), Mann (210) and Carpenter (206) differ from the “2” of Bullen (201) and Irwin (204). Taking account that the Bullens should have arrived an hour and half before the Irwins and at the same time as Edmonds, the Manns and the Carpenters, we find strange having been one person to do the first 3 and another to the other 2 which, as we just said, have supposedly an hour and a half difference of expected arrival.
We have proved that these sheets are photocopies, so lose sheets of paper. The scribble after the check mark, we think, was a failed attempt to write a 2 +something that went into another page that laid below, so ended up, in our opinion in not having a table allocated.
Do note the Sperreys haven't a table allocated either.
But I would call your attention to the reservation sheet for the previous day, Wednesday, May 02 2007. Note that the Naylors have a note for a high chair. Shouldn’t there be a similar observation for the Carpenters for the next day?
http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2015-03-13-Policia-inglesa-reuniu-se-com-as-autoridades-portuguesas-sobre-o-caso-Maddie
ReplyDeleteI must say that this post has firmly convinced me that ther eis no doubt that M died on the 3rd May. For ages, whilst I did 95 % agree with the theory proposed here, I couldnt get rid of a small thought that she may have died towards beginning of holiday (due to phone records, RM sudden return to PdL ETC). Now, thanks to this post in particular I am firmly in the belief that death occurred early evening 3rd May. No doubts - so thanks.
ReplyDeleteText,
ReplyDeletehttp://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t10784p410-follow-the-money-trail
In JH it seems that they’re associating you with the nanny wot dunnit theory:
“Re: Follow the money trail.
WMD Today at 8:26 am
@universe have you read Textusa,they I think they are on the same page as you,their recent blog is highlighting the babysitting services and the free creche from
19.30 til 23.30.”
This is the theory from universe:
“Scent of death
fz2 Today at 10:32 am
universe wrote:Nannies for cash from 7.30pm until 1am every night was/is an advertised feature always on offer by Warners resort. The Mccannc met nannys & at Catriona on arrival at the Ocean club on Sateuday late afternoon at the orientation meeting for all new/ recently arrived guests. This or the next day would have been when the Mccanns booked the nanny to babysit in their apartment 5a for each night while they went out to Tapas diiner. After Madeleine fell off the sofa onto tiled floor & died, the Mccanns never used the nannies again....& Warner soon shipped them out of Portugal & pretended they never were in the Mccanns apartment for booked paid childminding work. OMO. OMO. The Mccanns, UNBEKNOWST to Warners were terrified of an autopsy being done as it would show to everyone that the Mccanns had been using LONG TERM , ie. FOR MANY YEARS, sedation on Madeleine. OMO. OMO.
Okay, your theory would then suggest the following;
(a) the nanny was not present when Madeleine fell from the sofa
(b) the nanny was asleep when Madeleine fell from the sofa
(c) the nanny was fully aware Madeleine had fallen from the sofa but decided the best course of action was to leave her in situ for 90 minutes +
(d) on the evening Mrs Fenn heard a child cry for over an hour, the nanny did not contact the parents regarding their distraught child”
I think your post is bothering some….
Anon,
DeleteWe place time of death between 18.30 / 19.00. Childcare, begins at 19:30.
We say death happened in apartment 5A and say children taken to empty apartment per building, so not 5A as that one in block 5 was occupied by the McCanns.
It takes some imagination (or better said, intent) to associate us with "death by nanny".
Interesting to see some saying that swinging doesn't warrant a cover-up but an unknown nanny does.
We trust the intelligence of our readers.
Just had to bring this over to the blog on the "death-by-nanny" theory. Sarcasm at its best. Must congratulate JH Admin:
Delete"Gerry McCann: We have been advised our babysitters behaviour was legally well within the bounds of responsible babysitting.
Kate McCann: Hasn't the babysitter suffered enough without all these new lies coming out?
Gerry McCann: The babysitter has to concentrate on her own well-being now.
Gerry McCann: It could have been worse, the babysitter could have lost the twins too.
Kate McCann: Well it was her holiday too.
Kate McCann: It cannot be considered a crime. Someone committed one, but it wasn't the babysitter.
Clarence Mitchell: If Maddie's dead, then she's dead, but not by the babysitter's hands.
Kate McCann: I think that it is only a small minority who is criticising the babysitter.
Clarence Mitchell: The babysitter doesn't cry in public, but there's plenty of tears backstage.
Kate McCann: There's not a day goes by when the babysitter doesn't think "Was that ok. Was she wrong in thinking that was ok?"
Babysitter: "This is my job now. I can see this becoming my full-time career, with this whole issue of child welfare and opposing paedophiles."
Gerry McCann: "One good thing to come out of all of this is that there is so much in the press, nobody knows what is true, and what isn't."
Gerry McCann: "The babysitter has done nothing against the law."
Gerry McCann: "Kate and I are totally 100% confident in the babysitter's innocence."
Gerry McCann: "The babysitter is being absolutely stitched up."
Kate McCann: "Whoever Madeleine's with she'll be giving them her tuppence worth.""
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2654-the-pearls-of-the-babysitter
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/pgr_recebe_ingleses.html
ReplyDeletePGR recebe ingleses
Hora e meia de reunião. O palco foi a Procuradoria-Geral da República; os protagonistas, as autoridades inglesas e portuguesas. O objetivo foi o mesmo que motivou já outros encontros do género. Fortalecer a ligação entre as autoridades dos dois países, cimentar laços que permitam uma investigação comum para esclarecer o caso Maddie.
A líder da equipa da polícia inglesa, Nicola Wall, foi uma das presentes na reunião. Do lado da Policia Judiciária, a representação foi feita pelo magistrado Pedro do Carmo, diretor nacional adjunto. Também a procuradora-geral distrital e o titular do inquérito que se mantém aberto na Comarca de Faro estiveram presentes. Foi ainda chamado a participar um representante da Procuradoria-Geral da República inglesa, bem como o embaixador britânico.
Este foi o segundo encontro de Nicola Wall com os mais altos representantes do processo. A inspetora inglesa sucedeu no final do ano passado a Andy Redwood, que se reformou do Metropolitan Police Service.
Nicola Wall transitou da divisão de Homicídios e Crimes Graves para a operação Grange, que investiga o desaparecimento da criança inglesa, a 3 de maio de 2007, do quarto onde dormia com os dois irmãos gémeos, mais novos, num apartamento de um aldeamento turístico, na Praia da Luz, no Algarve.
O processo foi arquivado e depois reaberto, mas nada de novo foi encontrado. Todos os cenários se mantêm em aberto.
The blog's translation of this article:
DeletePGR [Attorney General of the Republic] receives the English
Meeting of an hour and a half. The stage was the Attorney General's Office; the protagonists, the British and Portuguese authorities. The objective was the same that has already motivated other such meetings. Strengthen the connection between both countries’ authorities, cementing bonds that will allow a joint investigation to clarify the Maddie case.
The leader of the British police team, Nicola Wall, was one of those presente at this meeting. On the PJ side, the representation was taken by the magistrate Pedro do Carmo, assistant national director. Also the district attorney general and the beholder of the investigation which remains open in the District Court of Faro County were present. Also called to participate were the representative of the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) as well as the British ambassador.
This was Nicola Wall’s second meeting of with the highest representatives of the process. The English inspector succeeded Andy Redwood at the end of last year to, who retired from the Metropolitan Police Service.
Nicola Wall transferred from the Homicide and Serious Crimes division to the Grange Operation, which investigates the British child’s disappearance of, on May 3, 2007, from the room where he slept with the two twin brothers, younger, in an apartment of a tourist village, in Praia da Luz in the Algarve.
The case was archived and then reopened, but nothing new was found. All scenarios remain open.
Also called to participate were the representative of the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) as well as the British ambassador.
DeleteThat's very, very significant I would have thought?
My understanding of how these things work is that it's the CPS that decides if there is enough evidence to charge a person, or persons.
So the CPS gets involved at the end of a case.
Nuala x
Nuala,
DeleteNot to say the British ambassador. First time we're seeing the political level being involved so directly in the case..
Interesting times Textusa :)
DeleteExpress now has a little bit about the meeting, but not much detail (no surprise there):
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/564100/Madeleine-McCann-latest-Police-progress-crucial-summit-meeting-Portugal
Nuala x
https://twitter.com/1matthewwright1/status/576878075998257152/photo/1
Delete@1matthewwright1: The UK attorney general is/was in Portugal eh #mccann https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/attorney-general #AllOptionsRemainOpen
https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/attorney-general
Responsibilities
The Attorney General is chief legal adviser to the Crown and has a number of independent public interest functions, as well as overseeing the Law Officers’ departments. These are:
the Crown Prosecution Service
the Serious Fraud Office
Her Majesty’s Crown Prosecution Service Inspectorate
Other responsibilities include:
acting as principal legal adviser on questions of EU and international law, human rights and devolution issues
referring unduly lenient sentences to the Court of Appeal
bringing proceedings for contempt of court
intervening in certain proceedings to protect charities
dealing with questions of law arising on government Bills
legal aspects of all major international and domestic litigation involving the government
The Attorney General also holds the separate office of Advocate General for Northern Ireland. The Advocate General for Scotland has specific responsibility for Scottish law matters.
Textusa I think you have to correct your post. I read what Lyndsay says, and the wording does seem right: "Further refers that from 19H30 the crèche of the resort provides a complimentary service "of dinner" (sic) which ends at 23H30, being that it has an additional cost"
ReplyDeleteIf it's complimentary it can't be for an additional charge. So I checked the Portuguese docs:
"Mais refere que a partir das 19H30 o infantário do empreendimento turístico em questão fornece um serviço complementar de “jantar” (sic) que termina pelas 23H30, sendo que, o mesmo tem um custo adicional"
"Complementar" is additional, so she means complementary, not complimentary which means free. The translation is wrong and changes the meaning of the sentence!
Anonymous 15 Mar 2015, 08:55:00,
DeleteThank you! My mistake! I was the one who did that translation and I do apologise to readers.
I thank you for noticing it but most of all, for warning us.
My Portuguese is getting rusty... as I can't blame myself, I'll blame my age! erosion...
Post corrected accordingly.
And thank you once again!
Hi I am WMD,and just to clarify what Anonymous wrote @14 Mar 2015, 13:02:00
ReplyDeleteI was merely pointing out your blog reference the babysitting or not as the case maybe,not that you associate any one from the childcare in any way with the disappearance.
WMD, I'm anon 14 Mar 2015, 13:02:00
DeleteSorry I misread your "I think they are on the same page as you"
BTW, why didn't you provide a link to the post?
An interestingly timed article from Sky News (thank you I.O. for the head-up)
ReplyDeletehttp://news.sky.com/story/1445978/met-investigated-over-child-sex-cover-up-claims
Met Investigated Over Child Sex Cover-Up Claims
Police and MPs were allegedly involved in child sex abuse, leading to high level cover-ups by Scotland Yard, it is claimed.
Scotland Yard is to be investigated for alleged corruption over claims it covered up child abuse because police and MPs were involved.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission will carry out the investigation into the actions of the Metropolitan Police.
There are 14 referrals which detail alleged corruption dating back to the 1970s and stretching into the 2000s.
Sarah Green, deputy chair of the IPCC, said: "These allegations are of historic, high level corruption of the most serious nature. We will oversee the investigations and ensure that they meet the terms of reference that we will set.
"Allegations of this nature are of grave concern and I would like to reassure people of our absolute commitment to ensuring that the investigations are thorough and robust."
Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said: "Just when you thought this couldn't go any deeper, it does."
Brunt added: "For some time the police themselves have been looking at corruption but because of the severity of the allegations they have passed it on to the IPCC."
More follows...
unh bet they chuck out the names of a few DEAD mps, job done, I don't trust any investigation into child abuse, experience tells me" investigation" is usually synonymous with"cover up" :0(
DeleteSky will suddenly go 'holier than thou' .....
ReplyDeleteWith impeccable timing...
ReplyDeleteHi Textusa, I can only hope that the Portugal PJ stand firm against any strong arm tactics that the UK Establishment may be using to bring a suitable resolution to the disappearance of Madeliene McCann!
ReplyDeleteHence my earlier post referring to Bernard Hogan Howe and his mealy mouthed words spoken about future investigations into "Child Abuse".
He (BHH) spoke of 50 million pound spent investigating 42,000 disappearances, the Metropolitan Police have spent at least 12 Million on the Madeleine McCann/Operation Grange case,perhaps they did not agree with a certain former DCI's findings,Creche Dad, bundle man sighting 21.15 sighting, no somewhere between 21.00 until 21.59 pm on 3 May 2007 abductor? He certainly did try to move the jigsaw puzzle pieces to fit around certain PJ statements.
Why was SY allowed to take part into a case of ongoing investigation,purporting information as factual(creche Dad), did DCI Redwood allow the PJ Authorities to interview this person as an arguido/witness as part of their "Joint investigation?"
Looks like quite a week a head of us, Goncalo Amaral revelations damages trial SY in their favourite place,Mrs Brenda Leyland inquest,RIP Mrs Leyland,you did not deserve the nasty pernicious hounding from Martin Brunt and his cohort employers SKY MSM, Notice a certain person from MSM now castigating the Police Force's lack of "Clarity" in prior investigations of the Establishment, who have decided to throw Elected Council Officials, Pop stars, DJ's Artists to the discerning public over Child Abuses, "Look over Here don't Look Over there?"
Time to bring back the Gallows?
Anonymous 16 Mar 2015, 12:54:00,
DeleteUnderstand you anger but please avoid using phrases like the last one in your comment.
When we allow for to be a valid reason to have someone killed, even by the state, then we have to allow that those who have killed had, at least in their opinion, a valid reason to have done so.
Hi textusa, I did not wish to use the phrase in anger, but surely human beings have the right to live as normal a life as possible,but when person's carry out heinous crimes, there should be an appropriate sentence or a deterrent in place as a valid justice, I am not using religion as an argument but there 10 commandments used as a guidance of life we are taught as a base of standards?
DeleteAnonymous 16 Mar 2015, 13:54:00,
DeleteFully concur with appropriate punishment.
Maybe you meant "bring back the galleys" instead of the one you proposed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galley_slave
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/7106086.stm
ReplyDeleteTranscript of the panorama program from 2007:
"BILTON: What time was it about?
JANE: I'm not sure, it'd be ten'ish, around ten'ish.
BILTON: And now all of a sudden what you've seen...
JANE: Yeah, as soon as Rachael said to me: "Madeleine's gone" this person sort of came into my head. I hadn't given it a second thought up to that point but then this person sort of... I suddenly thought oh, well that person was a bit odd. Suddenly Madeleine is not there and I've seen somebody that made me think oh, that maybe was a bit odd. It just seems too much of a coincidence.
BILTON: The McCaans say they asked Matt Oldfield to call the police at 10.15 from the Ocean Club front desk. When the police don't appear, they say someone from the group goes back to the front desk to see what's happening. The police say the first call they received was about 10.40. In the chaos it's clear there is some confusion about the exactly times. Remember Portugal and Britain are on the same time."
So, if Gerry asks Russ - both are in apartment or nearby - to go call at 22:15 from the Ocean Club front desk how can Dawn Bullen already be there before Russell and know all about it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY
DeleteThe Panorama 2007 video
I note that Fenn doesn't tell Bilton about previous crying incident but does say what police said. To know what they said, she must have come down to the apartment
DeleteGerry also says who entered the bedroom. Silvia was the translator. So they did prevent people from entering!
BILTON: But it's in this atmosphere that a former PJ detective goes on Portuguese television and without any corroboration accuses the McCaans of being swingers.
DeleteMAY 13th
JOSE BARRA da COSTA
Former Policia Judiciaria
There are people who guarantee that this is a couple who practice 'swinging' - i.e. sexual relationships between couples and then changing partners, and that this practice would allow in this type of...
BILTON: When you say: "there are people who say..." I'm assuming you are quoting....
DA COSTA: People who know obviously. I cannot reveal the source here because I would lose it.
BILTON: The Portuguese police publicly disowned the allegation, also denied by the McCanns. But such stories are damaging.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2996880/Metropolitan-Police-investigated-claims-covered-child-sex-abuse-MPs-officers-involved.html
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2997971/Cyril-Smith-held-paedophile-sex-party-police-told-cover-face-prosecution-Official-Secrets-Act.html
Pressure being put on BH by showing that SY cannot afford to cover-up Maddie?
I think so. This was main news last night and subject of Newsnight programme.
SY can't afford a scandal erupting about M case in the future
Hi Textusa a happy Saint Patricks day to you and your readers. Been trying to make sense of the comments in the last day or 2. Are the reference to the MP cover-up/involvement in child abuse mean that you or your readers feel that this is a timely indication that the swinging activities at the OC was covered up by the MP or are we now moving into more sinister movities for the cover up possibly involving abuse of children
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 17 Mar 2015, 14:30:00,
DeleteCould you please explain your "that you or your readers" comes from? Basically, where have you seen we saying anything about this subject?
It seems you are taking conclusions from where there are none to be taken.
Readers express their opinions, which they are entitled to do, but that doesn't mean that we do or don't subscribe the opinions expressed in comments.
They represent solely the opinion of whoever writes them.
For example we don't subscribe your opinion, although we respect it.
But we do agree with what Anonymous 17 Mar 2015, 13:24:00, has said.
We see this as pressure put by Gov BH Deciders to show Swinging BH ones that simply SY cannot afford being involved in more scandals than already it is in. No more scandals and continuing to cover-up for them about Maddie is a road to another scandal, so they won't take it.
For that reason they're warning the "game" cannot go on.
You see the cover-up being intensified, we see one being steadely and patiently lifted up.
Textusa thank you for this .....appoligies if my words suggested that you have changed your opinion about the reasons for the coverup. I have read your blogs for a number of years and you have been very forthright in presenting your opinions on why you think the cover up occurred and provided ample evidence to support your view. I too share your opinion that the reasons for the coverup are not connected to pedophilia not just because of your well founded arguments but also because in light of the gasper statements and other public statements of this nature this would have been well investigated by social services not only to protect the McCann children but all the other tapas children, no amount of pressure from BHs ( govt or other) would have prevented this. If people think that this type of investigation did not take place they clearly not aware of procedures in cases like that.
DeleteIn relation to a cover up into the circumstances of the child's death I have read a lot of blogs and forums which have and continue to promote their theory that the MP are destined to deliver a cover up/ whitewash. Indeed one very good and informative blog ceased commenting on the case because they realised they couldn't continue to justify this position that they had created for themselves. To these people I stop short on calling them eejits simply because a lot of them put a lot more work into this case than I have but in truth I have to say catch a grip. In this day and age do you think that any sane minded PM or police chief would contemplate such a course of action. Many of those promoting the cover up cite historical cases of cover up hillsborough, saville etc. the very fact that the truth about these events are coming out now shows that untimely the cover up has failed. My community are no strangers to attempted cover ups at the highest level which has lead to grovelling apologies from the PM ( unjustified & unjustifiable) but we should be wise enough to know that as someone more intelligent than me said " the past is a different place" we can't compare the actions of the past to present day thinking. Anybody contemplating creating evidence or ignoring facts in the present environment we live in would lead at the very least to the collapse of a government/ widespread dismissal of police chiefs and almost certain imprisonment. I have no great sense if patriotism towards the British state or it's police force but I think their own sense of patriotism and integrity Is a lot higher than those who shout whitewash gave them credit for otherwise I think we would all be living in a state of anarchy.
This brings me back to your original question "...where have you seen we saying anything about this subject?". Your publication of the sky report 16 Mar 11.51 confused me as to why you would introduce an article about child sex cover up. I understand now with your interpretation of anon 17Mar 2015 13.24 that the more crucial part of this was your comment " an interesting timed article..." Suggesting that this was "warning that the game can't go on". Thank you very much for clarifying this.
Anonymous 17 Mar 2015, 17:58:00,
DeleteThis time we subscribe to the opinions expressed in your comment!
Thank you!
Lol keep up the good work
DeleteTextusa you often talk about the part clutter and mis information play in the GMW and I agree. I spoke in my earlier comment about the investigation which I was sure would have been carried out by British social services following the gasper statements.
DeleteIn cases where a report like this is made to the police, the greater powers for investigation and action lies not with the police but with social services. In your blogs you have refused quite rightly to gave much credence to these statements and as result discussions around them are stifled. However other blogs and forums where this is not the case have allowed this issue to grow legs and develop well above the expectations of the BHs who introduced it.
I think people need to look at what would happen if such a statement was made to the police outside the maddie case i.e information was passed to the police regarding an incident in Greece which might suggest peodaphile activity by a British citizen who was now a key person in a crime involving a crime committed in Portugal. Who would be the best people to investigate that social services within Britain who have access to records pertinent to the investigation or the police in Portugal who had no knowledge of the suspects other than they spent a week at a Portuguese resort. The laws around child protection are very complex and I don't pretend to understand them but my opinion on all this is that it was not the decision of the police to hold back these statements but that of social services quite possibly because of child protection legislation. GA alludes to the fact that they were told that there was information that there was suspicions that members may have been involved in peodphile activity and the chances are it was something that they had considered anyway. In my opinion outside the maddie case that is how it should have been dealt with i.e British social services had suspicions of this activity relating to members of the group and where investigating they had given a heads up on who these people where to the PJ but the details of this were irrelevant to the PJ current investigation so why the need to provide the details until the case was fully investigated. The fact that none if the McCann other 2 children or any of the tapas children where removed from their families suggests that the allegations were proved to be unfounded. In my opinion the details of the investigation are contained in the files not released to the mccanns by the LP and the part if the PJ files withheld.
Amy cannot know this!
ReplyDelete"The witness states that the child’s father went to the reception to call the police, as soon as he noticed her disappearance, and that about 20 minutes had passed."
Gerry knows around 10.00. Amy is in creche. Did they cross with each other? But she says she sees him in apartment. She cannot know this!
Daily Star's frontpage, tomorrow March 18:
ReplyDeleteMADDIE CALL OFF HUNT, WE NEED COPS IN UK
Brit crime victims lose out says chief
Would like to bring over here comment put by Anonymous13 Mar 2015, 00:13:00 to our post "All the world's a stage (3/3):
Delete"Hi Textusa, I have just watched Newsnight on BBC2 , Bernard Hogan Howe asked how will the Metropolitan Police and other Police forces cope with the proposed reduction in spending given to his departments.
After some deliberation,BHH came out with a classic, due to the afore mentioned costs, the Police would have to limit the spending on these investigations,due to the length of time elapsed, since the alleged crimes were sometime ago they are therefore more costly and take longer to resolve!
Any one see a picture developing on Operation Grange now?
BHH supposed comments" We have spent a considerable amount of time investigating the disappearance of Madeline McCann and found no conclusive evidence to bring the perpetrators to justice and will have to leave the file case as at the present moment unsolved"
What a Farce if this happens!"
And who posted again about this issue on current post at 13 Mar 2015, 14:16:00
"Hi Textusa,(wonderland) another excellent post and deduction of person's involvement in collusion?
I posted on ATWAS about Bernard Hogan Howe on news night BBC 2 of his on going priorities of investigations into various unsolved cases?
If the UK Police forces could have been bothered to investigate the initial cases "properly"in the first instance, they would not need to re-investigate so many unsolved cases?
I do not wish to be negative, but after listening to the mealy words expunged from his lips about the investigations(Operation Grange 10-12 Million pounds), you just know the signals he was giving out to certain persons, who were not suspects?
Finally being exposed Chief Inspector Duckingfield (Freemason) had admitted to lying about the "Liverpool Fans forcing open the gates and Not being of a drunken state" at the Time of the Hillsborough Tragedy, His own words belatedly that he was incompetent but not "Negligent in his conduct on the 15 Day April 1989?"
Quite unbelievable that he is suffering now with PTSD, what doe's he think the "Families have gone through"!
I am sorry to make reference to peoples personal tragic events but thought it is relevant to highlight possible Masonic connections in the UK Police Force, it would seem the Brotherhood come first to be protected and the public who pay for the protection from Criminal behaviour, Second?"
Link to video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b055v8g6/newsnight-12032015
First reaction to this is to say it seems to us that the newspaper, Daily Star, apparently chosen to have the exclusive from by Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, QPM, present Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis (head of London's Metropolitan Police Service), is not of up to the standard we expected the announcement of such an important decision concerning such an important case (not only to the UK but worldwide) and that has cost the UK £10,000,000.
DeleteWe expected such a decision to be announced by the Home Office and then by the serious media.
But an exclusive is an exclusive, and the Daily Star was apparently the one chosen by Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe.
We are sure Mr and Mrs McCann must be devasted by these news and expect no less from them than having them send, immediately, a letter, similar to the one they sent to UK's Prime-Minister on May 2011 to open the review, demanding that it is NOT closed, nor any police withdrawn from it until it reaches a definite conclusion.
They need an answer and it's the duty of the state to provide them with one.
Article is available on-line now:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/431325/Police-working-Madeleine-McCann-case-need-back-Britain
Seems it's not BHH at all, it's "police union chiefs"
Nuala x
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/431325/Police-working-Madeleine-McCann-case-need-back-Britain
ReplyDeleteEXCLUSIVE: Police urged to shelve Maddie hunt as cops needed in UK to battle terrorism
POLICE were last night urged to shelve the hunt for Madeleine McCann as detectives battle terrorism and a wave of murders.
By Jerry Lawton / Published 18th March 2015
Officers reeling from £600million of police cuts are struggling to probe 14 unconnected killings across the capital since Christmas while fighting a war on terror.
Meanwhile, a specialist team of 31 detectives continues to work exclusively on the hunt for Madeleine, who vanished eight years ago from her parents’ holiday fl at in Portugal.
Though the mystery has no connection with London, the Metropolitan Police was assigned to investigate four years ago after Madeleine’s parents Kate, 47, and Gerry, 46, made a personal plea to David Cameron.
Despite dozens of trips by offi cers from the UK to Portugal, no one has been arrested and the original probe officer Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood has retired.
But the Operation Grange inquiry, which has so far cost around £10m, is continuing.
Now officers are baffl ed why they are working round the clock investigating a spate of murders and combating the threat posed by Islamic State while 31 Grange detectives who could ease their workloads are barred from helping them.
Spike That is because police chiefs have “ring-fenced” the Madeleine inquiry to prevent the officers involved working on other cases.
Last night police union chiefs called for the probe to be shelved, with detectives assigned to it deployed on other inquiries. Metropolitan Police Federation chairman John Tully told the Daily Star: “It is time to re-focus on what we need to do to keep London safe.
We no longer have the resources to conduct specialist inquiries all over the world which have nothing to do with London.
“The Met has long been seen as the last resort for investigations others have struggled with elsewhere.
“But we have made £600m of cuts. We have closed 63 police stations across London. Another £800m of cutbacks are anticipated over the next four years
It is surprising to see an inquiry like the McCann investigation ringfenced. I have heard a few rumblings of discontent about it from lots of sources.
“When the force is facing a spike in murder investigations it is not surprising there is resentment of significant resources diverted to a case that has no apparent connection with London.”
Operation Grange was set up to review the original Portuguese police probe into Madeleine’s disappearance aged three from her family’s holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007.
After the Portuguese inquiry was shelved as “unsolved” the McCanns, from Rothley, Leics, successfully appealed to the PM to get the Met to re-examine the case.
Last night a Met Police spokesman confirmed the 31 officers assigned to Operation Grange work solely on that investigation and are not involved with other inquiries.
Notice the word "Spike" in that article:
DeleteSpike That is because police chiefs have “ring-fenced” the Madeleine inquiry to prevent the officers involved working on other cases.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_(journalism)
Nuala x
Nuala and Anonymous 18 Mar 2015, 00:32:00,
ReplyDeleteThank you!
We stand corrected, it was not Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe but Metropolitan Police Federation chairman John Tully.
But unless we are before a mutiny in the Met, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe must have knowledge and has given his consent to this Daily Star exclusive.
The difference to our initial assessment is that it seems it's the SY (or its heads), through its "police union chiefs" who is pressuring the Home Office to shelve the case.
So no decision has been taken, just disgruntled top-level policemen voicing their opinion, which, if authorised, they are perfectly entitled to.
Will be curious as to what will be the Home Office's reaction to this. Not to say Nr 10, as it was the PM, David Cameron, who initiated this and ultimately is responsible for such a possible frustrating outcome after having raised such great expectations.
We would really, really advise Mr and Mr McCann to put that letter in the mail first thing in morning.
We stand corrected. it's possible for the MPS Federation chairman John Tully to have spoken without referring to Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe.
DeleteThe Police Federation can speak as a union without permission from Hogan-Howe.
However, it is in absolute synch with what Hogan-Howe said in March 12 BBC 2 Nightwatch.
I thought some of 31 officers were already retired and that staff involved had been scaled down?
DeletePolice in UK, like other public services, facing massive cuts in budgets and therefore staff.
This is saying, we'll never find her.
But it's not sympathetic to Mcs either. No expression of regret.
Like " We understand the parent's situation, but ..."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8713343/Freemasons-in-the-police-leading-the-attack-on-David-Camerons-riot-response.html
DeleteTully doesn't like Cameron
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/metropolitan-police-chief-sir-bernard-5353419?fb_ref=Default
ReplyDeleteMetropolitan Police Chief Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe facing probe over child abuse 'cover-up'
22:28, 17 March 2015
By Tom Pettifor
Britain's top cop was an Assistant Chief Constable at Merseyside in 1998 when the force uncovered claims one of Tony Blair’s ministers was a suspected paedophile
Britain’s top police officer faces being quizzed by his own detectives over claims that police covered up child sex abuse by politicians.
Metropolitan Police Chief Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe was an Assistant Chief Constable at Merseyside in 1998 when the force uncovered claims one of Tony Blair’s ministers was a suspected paedophile.
A source close to the Operation Care probe has confirmed the team were aware of allegations the minister was suspected of child abuse in Lambeth, South London.
It was “inconceivable” senior Merseyside officers were not aware the politician had come under suspicion, the source said.
But Sir Bernard “does not recall details about the investigation, those suspected or any associated allegations made regarding politicians”, Scotland Yard said.
Although it did confirm Operation Care was one of a number of investigations Sir Bernard “had oversight of” at the time.
The investigation into the politician was handed to the Met before being shut down when detective Clive Driscoll named the serving Blair minister as a suspect in London in November 1998.
The case tops a list released this week of 14 alleged child abuse cover-ups involving politicians being probed by the Met.
The revelation that the man ultimately in charge of the investigation is embroiled in the scandal sparked calls for an outside agency to take over today.
Specialist child abuse lawyer Peter Garsden said: “If Bernard Hogan-Howe is implicated in one of the allegations then there’s clearly a potential conflict of interest and he shouldn’t have anything to do with it.
“The National Crime Agency would appear to be a better choice to investigate.”
The Daily Mirror has detailed how former Met detective Mr Driscoll had been working alongside Operation Care when issued with disciplinary proceedings after pointing to the politician as a suspect.
The Liverpool-based team had gone to London in the summer of 1998 after arresting care home boss Michael Carroll.
Now aged 63, he had abused children in the North West before taking charge of Angell Road children’s home in Brixton, South London.
Following tensions between the forces, Merseyside kept their investigation to Carroll and left the Blair minister and other suspects to the London force.
But Mr Driscoll was removed just afterwards. Disciplinary moves were later dropped.
One Merseyside officer probing Carroll was Colin Leeman, who became a staff officer for Sir Bernard when he joined Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary.
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ReplyDeleteThe source said: “The senior investigating officer at the time would have been expected to have reported to his senior officers the fact a serving government minister had come under suspicion.
“It’s inconceivable to think that senior Merseyside officers would not have known."
The Independent Police Complaints Commission revealed this week they will “manage” the investigation that was already being conducted by the Met Police’s Directorate of Professional Standards.
Concerns had already been raised about the Met investigating itself. And the current investigation is restricted to serving and retired police officers, but those implicated include politicians, civil servants and former council employees.
Scotland Yard said: “The Commissioner did not have day-to-day involvement and does not recollect details about the investigation, those suspected or any associated allegations made regarding politicians.
“He absolutely refutes any suggestion he would have stopped or inhibited a criminal investigation of the nature suggested, including that of politicians. It would be wrong to suggest otherwise.”
Meanwhile Theresa May today confirmed there “seems to have been a cover-up” at Scotland Yard over VIP child abuse and said officers may face charges.
The Home Secretary told the Home Affairs Committee: “There needs to be no suggestion of any further cover-up in the work of an investigation of what seems to have been a cover-up.”
She added the abuse inquiry, led by Justice Lowell Goddard, “would not want anything it does to potentially jeopardise investigations that could lead to criminal prosecutions”.
Mrs May also insisted officials who give evidence to the inquiry should be exempt from the Official Secrets Act.
Meanwhile, Labour MP John Mann separately told MPs that victims deserved a “Rolls-Royce” counselling service but councils and prosecutors were instead failing to offer support.
How does this latest exclusive reconcile with Friday's progress meeting in Portugal involving SY, Rep of Gen Attorney UK etc?
ReplyDeleteHow motivated can Wall be now to do her job?
ReplyDeleteIs it possible that this emanates from Swinging BH's being in fear and not knowing what is going on - getting very worried? It appears in opposition to other recent reports regarding exposing Met Police problems etc. Also, the very recent public posts on FB also smacks of fear and uncertainty from Tapas Members.
ReplyDeleteIn situations when you are in fear of what may happen, and you are being kept in the dark - you become anxious and start squeaking - i.e your fear escapes in some way or another.
The Swinging BH have tried halting this investigation and directing it towards following red herrings, this could be a last ditch attempt to stop it by complaining about resources being allocated to it. In fact, if we were in their shoes, this would seem a good line of attack, knowing that many members of the public have regularly commented on the fact that police are spending so much on this one child. Well, I live in hope anyway
ReplyDeleteIsn't telling that no other media is echoing this?
ReplyDeleteHave I missed the point..they have to stop looking for madeline I thought they had done that ages ago ...surely they must have enough evidence just now to start making serious investigations with what facts they have facts I'm sure not even any of us know about.all it would cost is a days wages to 2 police officers knocking on tapas9 s doors..they don't have to find the body to make charges.....this is all really frustrating...there was a 2 yr old child in the paper yesterday who had a visit from the police for throwing a stone at a car..what I'm saying is if all resources are to let criminals of the hook in preference to concentrating on terrorism why are they wasting time chasing up a 2 yr old...all this mirror news is a to see how public react so the can decide if they are willing to go ahead with it or not..hopefully the latter
ReplyDeleteA cut and paste version of the Daily Star:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/564729/Police-urged-shelve-Madeleine-McCann-hunt
http://portugalresident.com/british-police-ready-to-drop-maddie-probe-as-london-faces-increasing-terrorist-threat
ReplyDeleteBritish police ready to drop Maddie probe as London faces increasing terrorist threat
An exclusive news story in the UK today claims British police are “baffled” as to why they are being kept on the seemingly endless Maddie probe, and want ‘out’ so that they can concentrate on the increasing threat from terrorism ‘at home’. “It is time to re-focus on what we need to do to keep London safe,” the Met’s federation chairman John Tully told the Daily Star. Newspapers have spared no space in criticising the “Operation Grange” inquiry set up in 2011, which has so far cost British taxpayers in excess of €12 million.
Not only have no solid leads transpired, officers working on the case have been barred from doing anything else.
Here, criticism has also centred on the fact that the Met “always turns up when the sun starts to shine”.
Thus today’s news will bring sighs of relief from holiday businesses that saw their start to last year’s season marred by battalions of police “digging for clues” at various sites around the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, from which Madeleine McCann went missing almost eight years ago.
Elaborating on police discomfort over the ‘exclusivity’ forced upon them by the Madeleine inquiry, John Tully told the Daily Star: “The Met has long been seen as the last resort for investigations others have struggled with elsewhere.” But it has been hit by “£600 million of cuts”, he added. “We have closed 63 police stations across London. Another £800 million of cutbacks are anticipated over the next four years” - and meantime the Met is having to cope with “14 unconnected killings across the capital since Christmas while fighting the war on terror”.
It is therefore “surprising to see an inquiry like the McCann investigation ringfenced”, he said. Ringfenced here refers to the 31 officers assigned to it being prohibited from working on any other cases.
“I have heard a few rumblings of discontent about it from lots of sources,” he told the paper.
“When the force is facing a spike in murder investigations it is not surprising there is resentment of significant resources diverted to a case that has no apparent connection with London.”
How much truth is behind this latest “exclusive” about the long-running mystery remains to be seen.
Portuguese media reported last week that the new head of Operation Grange, DCI Nicola Wall, visited Portuguese counterparts in Lisbon last week to “strengthen links” between the two forces.
No mention was made of any plans to shelve the British side of the investigation.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
Anonymous13 Mar 2015, 00:13:00 to our post "All the world's a stage (3/3),
ReplyDeleteAfter viewing the video of March 12 Newsnight, we didn't find quote you refer to in your comment
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b055v8g6/newsnight-12032015
"BHH supposed comments" We have spent a considerable amount of time investigating the disappearance of Madeline McCann and found no conclusive evidence to bring the perpetrators to justice and will have to leave the file case as at the present moment unsolved""
Please confirm you were being ironic and that it's not from the interview on Newsnight.
Thank you
Hi Textusa, just to confirm the supposed (BHH comments) was my use of sarcasm of what his interpretation of his intended reply should the "Operation Grange" Abductor case be shelved?
DeleteI apologise for taking up your valuable time looking for the comments I had wrote in the paragraph, I was being ironic of what he might say in reply!
Hi Textusa
ReplyDeleteThis article caught my attention and some of the comments seem to be quite interesting:
The Westminster child abuse ‘coverup’: how much did MPs know?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/17/westminster-child-abuse-paedophile-ring-failure?CMP=fb_gu
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3001635/It-s-time-ended-search-Maddie-officers-focus-threats-public-says-police-union-chief.html
ReplyDelete"Even though Madeleine’s parents Kate, 47, and Gerry, 46, live in Rothley, Leicestershire, Scotland Yard was handed the investigation because of its expertise in investigating COMPLEX MURDER CASE."
DeleteInteresting....
Kate mentions MURDER in her interview with Lori Campbell in Praia Da Luz
Deleteon 09/09/20077...
The following was taken from:
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id16.html
"Kate tells of nightmare Daily Mirror (full article below)
'Breaking down in tears, distraught Kate said of the Portuguese police: "They want me to lie - I'm being framed.
"Police don't want a murder in Portugal and all the publicity about them not having paedophile laws here, so they're blaming us."'
*
Why is Kate referring here to murder? Has she made a huge freudian slip?
If she insists that Madeleine was abducted, then why didn't she say: "Police don't want an abduction in Portugal and all the publicity..."?"
(end of quote)
Why put up a "fund" to find a live girl, a "very findable girl", if she was the victim of a MURDER?!
It amazes me about what is going on at the minute regarding the Police union comments. They know that people like us who are interested in the case won't be swayed to want to see the case shelved again because they think the resources are better spent elsewhere. They know that this won't influence the government to shelve the case because this case until the truth comes out will continue to haunt the UK government and they know if its shelved now it will have to be reopened in the future. When I read the reports I think it is done to wind up Joe Public who have no interest in the case, against the Mccs....why I don't know.
DeleteUnpublished Anonymous at 19 Mar 2015, 11:32:00,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment but we don't want to examine the subject in detail, as it isn't relevant to the case.
The link to the article in the blog comment was making a different point. It was about opposition to government cuts by an organisation representing the police in London.
HiTextusa, thank you for your reply to my post,unpublished 11.32, I can understand as to why you do not wish to examine the subject in detail.
DeleteYou say it is not relevant to the case?
I think you may come to an alternative point if these person's working behind the scenes finally have the "Investigation stopped"?
Anonymous 19 Mar 2015, 13:00:00,
DeleteWe are aware of Tully being a FM but we don't want to suggest FMs have anything to do with the McCann case.
As we said, the link on blog comments showed Tully's opposition to cuts being imposed by the government.
Statistically, certainly there are FMs involved in the case but so are people with green eyes.
You seem to suggest FMs may have the case closed. Unless Theresa May is one, we don't agree with you.
And Wall an unlikely FM as women in police normally not involved.
Please be warned that we will not publish anymore comments linking FM to the Maddie case.
Hi Textusa, my post 13.00 19 March, If you can find the time or someone to go on Wikipedia website,Murder of Private Investigator.Mr Daniel Morgan.10 March 1987.
DeleteHave a look at who the lead homicide officer was, when the Trial collapsed 2009-2011?
Former head MSM of Ruperts NOTW,Rebecca Brooks and payments made from Mr Murdoch's Empire.
If you can then tell me in that you believe the "Public will have the Truth of missing Madeleine McCann,Operation Grange Investigation!?
I for once will be Astounded! I await with bated breath!
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/431523/Madeleine-McCann-s-parents-urged-police-chief-not-give-up-hunt
ReplyDeleteAha! So here we have the due response!!