tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post1112069364254125994..comments2023-10-30T07:28:35.018+00:00Comments on Textusa: A Child AbusedTextusahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-29660481892065960702012-04-02T20:11:41.240+01:002012-04-02T20:11:41.240+01:00http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/interna...http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/internacional/mundo/pais-acusados-de-deixar-morrer-filho-a-fome<br /><br />Arrepiante. Ate onde vai a " desumanidade". <br />Sempre as criancas vitimas de quem as devia proteger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-67423277013777840072012-04-02T09:08:09.453+01:002012-04-02T09:08:09.453+01:00http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.pt/2012/04/how-dare-...http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.pt/2012/04/how-dare-gerry-kate-claim-pj-did.html<br /><br />I hope TS has a look on that video and shake her conscience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-4254682487946166072012-04-01T20:33:58.349+01:002012-04-01T20:33:58.349+01:00Anon Apr 1, 2012 4:01:00 PM
My big sis thinks I m...Anon Apr 1, 2012 4:01:00 PM<br /><br />My big sis thinks I may have been a bit hard on you and that you were probably interpreting what I was saying in your own way. <br /><br />To clarify, if I had the info I know have I would say that TS would be picked up using the purple route, and be dropped off at the intersection between the cul-de-sac and Rua do Ramalhete. However, it's not to be discarded the frontdoor possibility.<br /><br />Thank you for your comment.Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-91711122700911539922012-04-01T16:01:42.532+01:002012-04-01T16:01:42.532+01:00Sorry Textusa, that is what I understand from the ...Sorry Textusa, that is what I understand from the previous comment ...'This could mean that the parent is limited to choosing from one of mentioned stops'.<br /><br /> And for me make sense, since the brochure has a not saying 'The above mentioned bus stops are always on authorised locations to collect and drop passengers travelling on public transportations.' Could mean, that the School bus use the same bus stops as the public transportation, no matter if during the school year this bus stops could be changed, not because the parents want it, but due to major reasons( street work, less number of children, etc).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-70359874966457442772012-04-01T14:12:07.606+01:002012-04-01T14:12:07.606+01:00Anon Apr 1, 2012 1:50:00 PM
Please don't put ...Anon Apr 1, 2012 1:50:00 PM<br /><br />Please don't put words into my mouth that I haven't said.Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-46381965318838708782012-04-01T13:50:15.074+01:002012-04-01T13:50:15.074+01:00I think you are right, Textusa, the parents have ...I think you are right, Textusa, the parents have to choose from a fixed stop, according to their conveniences. On top of that, in Portugal, for safety reasons a bus can't stop in a street if there is not a properly bus stop, well signalized and with enough place for people to wait and go in and out from the bus. Then, the bus stops must be fixed places.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-74368613819680741862012-04-01T12:48:18.020+01:002012-04-01T12:48:18.020+01:00Reading the brochure:
"The bus service is op...Reading the brochure:<br /><br />"The bus service is operated by a specialised company being the bus route in the morning and afternoon at the stop chosen by the parent."<br /><br />Then it lists a list of stops. This could mean that the parent is limited to choosing from one of mentioned stops.<br /><br />This can mean that in Luz there is a pre-determined stop. Being Rua Direita a one-way street, then it makes sense to have two stops. One in the morning, the other in the afternoon.<br /><br />But it doesn't make that much sense to drop TS in the cul-de-sac, or even in the middle of Rua do Ramalhete, making other children walk from there, and make her walk all the way to somewhere near the Church in the morning.Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-57386256559661876352012-04-01T12:35:31.908+01:002012-04-01T12:35:31.908+01:00A reader has sent us the ISA brochure.
It says: ...A reader has sent us the ISA brochure. <br /><br />It says: <br /><br />"BUSES <br /><br />We reserve the right to suspend, without prior notice, any pupil who behaves badly on buses. The bus contracts are negotiated on a yearly basis. Therefore transport commitments are for a full School year. The bus service is operated by a specialised company being the bus route in the morning and afternoon at the stop chosen by the parent. The school may change during the academic year the conditions of this service due to unforeseen circumstances or due to not enough pupils making use of a specific route or bus stop. The school reserves the right to make any changes to this service informing parents accordingly timeously. <br /><br />Making use of the bus service one way only (morning or afternoon) does not imply a reduction in the cost. <br /><br />Any fines issued by the traffic authorities due to the pupil’s negligence by not wearing the seat belt or walking around in the bus whilst in movement will be ascribed to the pupil or respective parent, the school not assuming any responsibility thereof."<br /><br />Then in a different page, it lists the stops for the various buses:<br />"Nº 5 – LAGOS<br />A - Burgau<br />B - Porto Dona Maria<br />C - Branca Azul<br />D - Praia da Luz<br />E - Boavista<br />F - Lagos (S. Gonçalo Hospital)<br />G - Lagos (Fire Department)<br />H - Lagos (Post Office)<br />I - Chinicato (EVA bus stop)<br />J - Odeáxere<br />K - Mexilhoeira Grande"<br /><br />This page has the following note:<br /><br />"“Note: The above mentioned bus stops are always on authorised locations to collect and drop passengers travelling on public transportations. The School reserves the right to alter the above mentioned bus stops during the course of the School Year. It is not obliged to guarantee specific routes as they may have to change as a result of road works, construction work, alteration in pupil numbers and the terms/conditions set by the Transportation Company or others.”<br /><br />Thanks to the reader that sent us this.Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-5888225302517122012012-04-01T12:11:21.620+01:002012-04-01T12:11:21.620+01:00Anon Apr 1, 2012 11:37:00 AM
Looking at aerial vi...Anon Apr 1, 2012 11:37:00 AM<br /><br />Looking at aerial view, it appears to be so from the Church up to the first major crossing if you come in from Lagos. It has a triangle on the ground. If coming from Lagos, you have to make a right turn and Rua do Ramalhete is the first on your left. It's the crossing where the Mill is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-26512426403812132012-04-01T12:01:46.781+01:002012-04-01T12:01:46.781+01:00While, the witnesses are debunked, it is amazing t...While, the witnesses are debunked, it is amazing to see that on one way or the other, they have high chances to be connected with Mccann's or with who knows them well. No Portuguese witnesses. No witnesses of other nationalities, a part the British and even the British are very special.... Or they live close to important characters in PDL or in Uk. Remember Mrs. Olly, who spotted Maddie in Marroc with a lot of noise in the media? Her husband knows some of the Tapas 9, was later reported by some Media. <br /> A child, like TS will not get involved on that saga without the intervention of an adult. Who bring her in to the story, had a strong purpose of baking evidences to support an abduction and confuse/ entertain the police on the first days. <br /> Any intelligent person, if living near by, will stay away of the abduction story, because contrary to us who post on the Internet and base our assumptions on the information we read, who lives there had the opportunity to see the crime scene in locus and see with their eyes how impossible was the abduction under the circumstances presented by the Tapas 9. No break in... The window is too high for an abductor alone.... For two, means too much movements for a girl who didn't wake up and somewhere between the bed and the moment JT saw the abductor, the abductor had to change the position he carried Madeleine because the head was facing a different side in the bed then the one described by JT. <br /> All that information, we got it over the years, by reading and comparing everything, but for who who live there, most of that information was available on the first days and highly questioned/ commented. Why that girl came forward with her lies? Must be under desperation cause, by the adults who in some way shared with Mccann's the " facilities" provided by the OC. They are not independent witnesses... And I don't know how they can live with what they have done and carry on a normal life, knowing that a little girl is out there without the right to have a proper funeral.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-59855979131825758542012-04-01T11:37:10.940+01:002012-04-01T11:37:10.940+01:00Is Rua Direita just one way?Is Rua Direita just one way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-75139605692859318852012-04-01T11:27:05.069+01:002012-04-01T11:27:05.069+01:00Then, the Pharmacy in PDL is the master center for...Then, the Pharmacy in PDL is the master center for directions, not the OC or the church. For a good reason, Google use it. <br /> Trough Google directions, the way in or out PDL, is trough Rua Direita.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-65947117717256077862012-04-01T11:12:21.542+01:002012-04-01T11:12:21.542+01:00Textusa,
By the arrows shown on google maps Rua D...Textusa,<br /><br />By the arrows shown on google maps Rua Direita is a one way-street from with direction towards Lagos. This would make the Rua do Ramalhete the one to be used to go the opposite direction. If ISA’s transport doesn’t pick their students from their doorstep, then I say that TS would be picked up in the morning at the end of the purple route, and in the afternoon be dropped off in the crossing between Rua do Ramalhete and the cul-de-sac where she lives. No logic to go the way she says she goes.<br />One thing I found really odd in her statement is she saying that in the afternoons she doesn’t need to go to OC. Why mention OC? Shouldn’t she have said something like her grandparent’s old apartment because that’s the reason she looked into the pathway or say Maddie’s apartment because it was where all the attention was turned to. Why make the connection between that apartment and OC, unless she knows very well how much they’re interconnected?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-75300233976797710292012-04-01T10:54:52.759+01:002012-04-01T10:54:52.759+01:00I do see attempts to divert attention from the fac...I do see attempts to divert attention from the fact that TS has lied and that some adult put her up to it, to buses, Murat and the Hubbards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-21928084928497541722012-04-01T09:18:57.525+01:002012-04-01T09:18:57.525+01:00Anon Apr 1, 2012 1:35:00 AM
Using google maps for...Anon Apr 1, 2012 1:35:00 AM<br /><br />Using google maps for all directions from anywhere to Luz you'll get the pharmacy. That's just the default location for Luz.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-78291850003549735622012-04-01T08:41:49.276+01:002012-04-01T08:41:49.276+01:00Anon Mar 31, 2012 12:05:00 PM
http://www.internat...Anon Mar 31, 2012 12:05:00 PM<br /><br />http://www.internationalschoolofthealgarve.com/busservice.html<br />"The School is served by 9 private charter coaches from: Budens, Lagos, Portimão, Silves, Messines, Albufeira, Vilamoura, Loulé, Faro and many other stops en route."<br /><br />http://www.isbi.com/viewschool.asp?school=4223-International_School_of_the_Algarve<br />From the Headmaster:<br />"The School occupies a nine-hectare site on the main East-West coast road in the central Algarve, approximately 30 minutes from Faro International Airport. The School's own Bus Service is a safe and convenient network covering all areas of the Algarve"<br /><br />http://www.schools.ac/266-The-International-School-of-the-Algarve-Lagoa,-Algarve-Portugal.html<br />"Facilities<br />Purpose built school on a large site in the central Algarve about 30 minutes from Faro International Airport. Fully equipped laboratories, computer suites, School Library, gymnasia, Dining Rooms etc. Spacious sports field and multi-purpose sports areas. School Bus Service with charter coaches serving the whole Algarve region."<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aljezur_International_School<br />"The school serves the municipalities of Aljezur, Lagos and Vila do Bispo via its shuttle bus service."<br /><br />Could you please provide a link to where you found "the fixed bus stops"?Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-49280852752669183442012-04-01T08:38:02.799+01:002012-04-01T08:38:02.799+01:00http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/
Another Swedish ...http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/<br />Another Swedish interview with more lies and the main message from Kate:<br /><br /> " please read my book"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-32386812463595789242012-04-01T08:37:04.738+01:002012-04-01T08:37:04.738+01:00Anon Mar 31, 2012 11:10:00 PM
That's possibly...Anon Mar 31, 2012 11:10:00 PM<br /><br />That's possibly a legal technicality, and as we've said before, we don't play legal games here.<br /><br />I'm sure the child did not go on her own to the PJ.Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-33140148092257745292012-04-01T08:23:30.952+01:002012-04-01T08:23:30.952+01:00To Anon who sent in an unpublished comment on Mar ...To Anon who sent in an unpublished comment on Mar 31, 2012 11:33:00:<br /><br />Thank you for the information you sent and which was useful, as it confirms what we have also found.<br /><br />We don't usually publish personal details of people unless their name has already appeared in the public domain, such as making a statement, a press report or reporting a sighting.<br /><br />There may be good reason to use these details in a future post, if we feel justified in doing so.<br /><br />We have a lot of information which we have found or have been sent, which is important in helping us to formulate our posts so we thank you for your contribution.<br /><br />Hope you understand.Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-59500720989935106512012-04-01T01:59:20.735+01:002012-04-01T01:59:20.735+01:00Just to add to my previous comment about the googl...Just to add to my previous comment about the google map. If you look at the location of ISA, is on the outskirts, not inside any town. One more reason for not be served by a public bus. Any bus that goes there, is only for the School. In Portugal, public buses are not provided if there is a low number of clients. I don't think, a public bus was provided to take children's to a private school. TS must be on a school bus, and Textusa is right " DE" or "DO" is irrelevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-90886061036914621482012-04-01T01:35:00.786+01:002012-04-01T01:35:00.786+01:00Just a curiosity: if you search Escola Internacion...Just a curiosity: if you search Escola Internacional do Algarve and you click on the pin that give you the google map/ location, you can ask directions from PDL to ISA. The Google map give you a start location in PDL at Farmacia da Praia da Luz which is located( I think) in the Rua Joaquim Teixeira. If you click on the additional icons provided by google( a car, a bus and a pedestrian) you will see that there is no information for the bus. By car is around 42 kms/ 37 minutes. My interpretation is that there is no public bus to ISA but the " ISA bus " stop is at the pharmacy. Otherwise why the google direction provided by the site of the School gave the direction of the pharmacy and not the Church? Is the pharmacy near the 5A? No. <br /> Then, if she went on the bus at the pharmacy and she went down Rua Francisco Gentil Martins, she headed to Rua Joaquim Teixeira and not to rua Direita or to any way close to the OC. When she passed the OC, she was already in the bus. Wonder how she noticed a guy standing there and looking to the 5A in few seconds, which could be the duration of the bus trip in front of the 5A.<br /> If she took the purple route and Rua Direita to go to the pharmacy, then she passed in front of the OC, but this is the long route. A non logical choice for the morning, when people have to rush in order to not miss a transportation.<br /> But, I see from the map, that the street where she lives is not far from the OC and she lives in PDL for quite long. Good chances to know the Hubbards and Murat, who also lives near by. I think, when she gave the first statement, Murat was not yet arguido but the abduction was already the only theory accepted by the Mccann's and who help them? I don't know why, but I had always the feeling that Murat helped the Mccann's with many logistic. TS could be dragged as a witness to support the abduction theory and when the Tapas 9 start feeling attraped by the police they start loosing the control of the situation and were forced to ruin part of the plan by putting Murat on the center of everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-62287136627365700772012-04-01T00:30:00.391+01:002012-04-01T00:30:00.391+01:00Anon 11:10,
The absence of an identification on t...Anon 11:10, <br />The absence of an identification on the day she gave her statement, means nothing. The girl went to the DIC of Portimao to give her statement. To do that, she need to have the date and the time pre-arranged with police. Most probably, when she contacted the police as a witness and the police book the time for her statement, she presented the ID and was identified. This is something that always happen following the first contact. When she went to Portimao, she most probably forgot her ID ( in Portugal, pre- teenagers don't take the responsibility of carrying an ID) but because she was already identified by the police, there is no need to present any ID at the time she gave the statement. But, police can't lie. If she came without any identification, they have to report it, but this doesn't mean the police didn't know who she was, or there is any illegality. For me, looks a normal situation. The police can't dismiss or refuse the statement of a witness just because the witness can't be identified at the moment. They will go trough the identification after. Which on that case, I strongly believe, she was identified before, when she asked to be a witness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-82929799604186343432012-03-31T23:10:26.941+01:002012-03-31T23:10:26.941+01:00Once again, many thanks to you, Textusa!
Your work...Once again, many thanks to you, Textusa!<br />Your work is much appreciated.<br /><br />p.s., what do you think about the absence of an identification document for the witness TS? Why did the police accept the deposition to be made without any id? Maybe there was one of the parents present, but then, why no reference to him/her? I don't think the PJ hear/accept the statement from a minor without a parent or other legal guardian present, and I suppose that person would be mentioned in the statement. The minor could not sign any legal documents, such as a police statement, not without proper authorization from the guardian, and I believe that person would have to sign too.<br />I think this is so weird...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-24165672234262700792012-03-31T21:53:07.328+01:002012-03-31T21:53:07.328+01:00Anon Mar 31, 2012 7:12:00 PM
“Vir aos autos na qu...Anon Mar 31, 2012 7:12:00 PM<br /><br />“Vir aos autos na qualidade de testemunha. Que compreende a Língua Portuguesa, já que se encontra em Portugal desde os dois meses de idade (há cerca de onze anos). Ainda assim encontra-se presente uma intérprete ALICE DIAS AVAKOFF.”<br />“Comes in as a witness. That she understands the Portuguese language, as she’s been in Portugal since she was two months old (about eleven years). Even so an interpreter DAYS ALICE DIAS AVAKOFF is present.”<br /><br />Nowhere is it stated that she spoke in either Portuguese or English. Irrelevant of what language she used, we can be assured that what was read and signed by this witness was fully understood, so the content, in Portuguese, is correct.<br /><br />Let’s look at what else she says about the buses.<br /><br />“No dia 30 de Abril, segunda-feira, pelas 08H00 e quando se dirigia para a paragem do autocarro com destino à escola, que parte às 08H15, trajecto que faz diaramente quando tem aulas...”<br />“On April 30, Monday, at 08:00 and when she was heading to the stop of the bus bound for school, which departs at 08:15, path which she makes daily when she has classes...”<br /><br />Here we get into semantics.<br />Does one always say “paragem DE autocarro” (which she doesn’t) when one wants to mention a generic bus stop or can one also say “paragem DO autocarro” (which she does) with the same meaning, although the correct translation is indeed “the stop of the bus”?<br />In my opinion, it’s irrelevant because of what she says next: “autocarro com destino à escola”/”bus bound for school”. <br />I’m not familiar with the public transportation system of the Lagos area, but I’m willing to make a wager as there’s no PUBLIC bus that passes PDL and goes further than Lagos. And I’ll triple the wager in saying that there’s no PUBLIC transportation that links PDL to Porsches, passing by ISA. <br />If the bus stop to which she’s referring to was PUBLIC, then she would have said “the bus bound to Lagos, where I then…”<br /><br /><br />“Quando regressou da escola, pelas 17H30/17H40, após sair do autocarro, fez um traecto diferente, pois o transporte tem uma paragem na rua que dá acesso à sua habitação, não necessitando de descer em direcção ao “Ocean Club”.”<br />“When she returned from school, at 17H30/17H40 after exiting the bus, she made a different path, because the transport has a stop on the street that accesses her house, not needing to descend towards the "Ocean Club".”<br /><br />So why would a PUBLIC bus have a different stop in such a small trafficless town such as PDL in the morning and in the afternoon?<br />Even if you take into account possible one-way street limitations, going into a cul-de-sac is absolutely absurd.<br /><br />I thank you for your comment. In fact it seems that the translation needs some attention. Promise we will base our next posts directly from the Portuguese version.Textusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160632687242190030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6891574965172458848.post-10521891297108796742012-03-31T19:59:49.669+01:002012-03-31T19:59:49.669+01:00Further to my comment
Re: bus routes
I should hav...Further to my comment<br />Re: bus routes<br /><br />I should have checked the original PJ files before commenting. It turns out that the person who commented at<br />Mar 31, 2012 7:12:00 PM<br />is right and there is a mention in the statement that the mother didn't see the man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com